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Speaker 3: All right, gosh, welcome back, Yeah, Eyl, this is going

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Speaker 3: to be a special episode, man, friend of ours.

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Speaker 2: David long overdue man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Before we even man, I want to tell you you

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Speaker 2: guys how inspired I am by you all and how

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Speaker 2: proud I am of you all and your business acumen,

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Speaker 2: not just as thought leaders, but just as black people

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Speaker 2: in the financial space. Man, I'm so proud of you

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Speaker 2: all to be able to mobilize people the way that

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Speaker 2: you all did, the way that you market, how you

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Speaker 2: all put it.

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Speaker 4: Together, and just just being all around, just trailblazers in

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Speaker 4: that space man, because that was a space that was

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Speaker 4: needed to be able to see a deficit and to

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Speaker 4: be able to cover that man like I'm very.

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Speaker 2: Very proud of you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, appreciate that man, Thank you, that man that

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Speaker 3: means a lot, received a lot. And every time we

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Speaker 3: see you, it's always been good energy. So you know, definitely,

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Speaker 3: the feeling is mutual. Feeling is mutual. So, David, somebody

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Speaker 3: that when most people heard of you, it was through music, right,

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Speaker 3: But I've seen you transition in multiple different genres. So

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Speaker 3: from a producer to a rapper, to an actor, to

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Speaker 3: an activist on a certain level, to an entrepreneur to

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Speaker 3: a variety of different things that you do. You're you're

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Speaker 3: a renaissance man of sorts. So I want to start

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Speaker 3: at the beginning. Mississippi. Right at that time, to my knowledge,

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Speaker 3: there wasn't a major artist that rap artists that came

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Speaker 3: out of Mississippi. Is that correct now? It was?

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Speaker 2: It was some major artists. There was a group called

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Speaker 2: Wildlife Society. I forgot the name of the record label.

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Speaker 2: The record label almost popped really big. They had trying

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Speaker 2: to think of a rapper. I know, y'all know his name,

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Speaker 2: but they were they were signed to you know how

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Speaker 2: Penalty back when I was on Penalty, when Nori was

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Speaker 2: Life Penalty did.

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Speaker 5: But there was a group called Wildlife Society that was.

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Speaker 2: On I keep forgetting the name of the group that

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Speaker 2: Hammer had. The Hammer MC Hammer had had a group

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Speaker 2: that was out of Mississippi and they had a very,

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Speaker 2: been you know, some groups that have been out. I

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Speaker 2: think with me, it was just that I came at

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Speaker 2: and it just all came together, bro, and it was

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Speaker 3: History, like a like a pimp. That's the song, Yes,

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Speaker 3: were you on you on a little flip? Yes, that's

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Speaker 3: into the into the bad game. Right. So my question

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Speaker 3: is coming from Mississippi where there wasn't a lot of trash,

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Speaker 3: let's just say that, right, And it's not like Atlanta

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Speaker 3: like the southern hustle as far as like the stories

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Speaker 3: of people selling music out of their trunks, of their

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Speaker 3: from a grassroots level?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I'm going to tell you you are something

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Speaker 2: just because you are who you are to me. So

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Speaker 2: what happened was that nobody ever talks about is that

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Speaker 2: we as independent artists because we don't talk to each

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Speaker 2: other as black men. That's something that I like about

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Speaker 2: our relationship. Bro. I've called you before when there was

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Speaker 2: something that I didn't understand and was like, Bro, can

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Speaker 2: you tell me what this means? Bro? How do I

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Speaker 2: do this? Or I'm going into the tech industry? What

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Speaker 2: would you suggest that I do. We've had that conversation

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Speaker 2: both in person and on the phone. Right, we don't

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Speaker 2: do that as artists, Bro, Like, what's happening was if

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Speaker 2: you calculate the amount of money that independent are were making,

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Speaker 2: especially in Texas and then the Bay Like, they were

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Speaker 2: kicking the shit. Can I say shit?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, said shit.

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Speaker 2: They was kicking the shit out of major labels. Bro.

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Speaker 2: You got to think about like the South Park Mexicans. Bro,

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Speaker 2: you gotta think broad.

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Speaker 3: Thy, slim Thum and.

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Speaker 2: Slim Thug little Flip. I think did eighty thousand or

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty thousand or something like that, Bro,

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Speaker 2: Think about what e forty and two short master p

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Speaker 2: and all of them people. Now put all of them

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Speaker 2: people together, bro, and think about the millions, and then

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Speaker 2: you gotta think that's when you know we was getting

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Speaker 2: ten ten dollars a record, Bro. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: And so what they ended up doing, Bro, is soaking

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Speaker 2: up all of the independent artists, Bro and signing in

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Speaker 2: the deals in a lot of cases, this is just

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 5: And one of the only reasons.

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Speaker 2: Why I didn't fail is because I produced my own music,

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Speaker 2: I marketed my own music. I had enough good people

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Speaker 2: lot of artists thought I was crazy because you know,

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Speaker 2: University was still taking out of my budget to you know,

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Speaker 2: get record promoters and radio promoters and video promoters. But

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Speaker 2: I had my own radio promoter. I had my own

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Speaker 2: video promoter because I just knew. And I went to

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Speaker 2: the president of Universal one time and he told me.

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Speaker 2: He was like BANNERD, like, I know you a smart guy,

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Speaker 2: and you're gonna figure this out, and he really gave

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Speaker 2: me the game. So the thing was, it was like, man,

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Speaker 2: why are you double spending your money because I know

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Speaker 2: that them folks are not gonna do me right. They're

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Speaker 3: Least they're not gonna do me like an independent artist,

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Speaker 3: even though you salt.

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Speaker 2: And every record that I didn't work myself failed. So

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Speaker 2: what would usually happen is that if you even I

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Speaker 2: don't know if people know this, but like I came

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Speaker 2: into Universal with eight hundred spins on radio while I

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Speaker 2: was sleeping in my van. I was homeless. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all knew the story about my

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Speaker 2: red van. Like I built the studio in my van

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Speaker 2: like RV. Yeah, no, no, no, it was just a

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Speaker 2: do you call those the things that you put into

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Speaker 2: the lighter, You put it into a lighter and then

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Speaker 1: It's like an extension called on in a sense, but

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Speaker 1: it's like you're using the power from the light.

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Speaker 2: So I literally if you go back and listen to Mississippi,

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Speaker 2: the album that had like a Pimp on it, if

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Speaker 2: you listen to the interludes, you can hear the people

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Speaker 5: You know, I could even do verses in my van.

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Speaker 5: That's why I tell these.

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Speaker 2: Kids, there's never no excuse. Like people in the South

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Speaker 2: know this story. And I was sleeping in that van, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, so you you was homeless, Yes, so how'd you

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Speaker 3: link up a little flip? He was already lit at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well what happened was is that What people don't

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Speaker 2: know is that I produced the Holiday for Trick Daddy.

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Speaker 2: So I never wanted to be a producer, but I

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Speaker 2: me from when I was three And come to find

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Speaker 5: I've never been classically trained.

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Speaker 2: And like Bro, I've co produced Quincy Jones before Maroon five,

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Speaker 2: you know, Chris Brown, justin Bieber, like you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: executive co executive producer Jill Scott's album right now. So

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Speaker 2: like Bro, like I did it all man, you know.

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Speaker 2: And that's one thing that I want to tell people

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Speaker 2: like you have to have an extraordinary team. And regardless

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Speaker 2: of whether you all tried to do it or not,

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Speaker 2: one of the things that is very special about you

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Speaker 2: all is that y'all did it as a group. Y'all

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Speaker 2: did it as a family. And that's the power of

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Speaker 2: America is family. And that's the reason why they want

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Speaker 2: us in these boxes on these computers. That's the reason

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Speaker 2: why I really think COVID happened is that we won't

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Speaker 2: congregate with each other. True information is not just verbal,

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Speaker 2: it's also a vibe. It's also getting together. It's sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's envy. Sometimes it's competition. That's just being in the

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Speaker 2: room competing with each other. Speaking to me and Little

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Speaker 2: Flip Bro, people used to think that me and Little

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Speaker 2: Flip was beefing because we were so competitive against each other.

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Speaker 2: I remember Jim Jones was in the studio. That's one

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Speaker 2: time when we was doing the song that's called it's

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Speaker 2: called talk to Me Now. It's funny it's a white

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Speaker 2: movie just licensed it licensed the song, and I can't

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Speaker 2: One of my friends worked at Xerox Wow, so he

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Speaker 2: you all are doing something that inspire people all over

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Speaker 1: Appreciate man, I appreciate that. I mean, it says a lot.

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Speaker 1: Somebody called people okay, go ahead. As we were saying

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Speaker 2: Looking at you.

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Speaker 1: Where they look like this is the artists who may

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Speaker 2: So I'll say this. I want to answer this question

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Speaker 2: It's scary because a lot of these spaces, unlike you guys,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to find another way to do it.

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Speaker 2: And every time we break through, the contracts get tighter

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Speaker 5: Can call Samuel L.

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Speaker 2: Jackson. And although, yeah, I'm tough from I'm a street perspective,

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Speaker 2: I'm representing us whether I want to or not. But

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Speaker 2: I downloaded every contract that had something to do with marketing,

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Speaker 5: My lawyer got his ass up.

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Speaker 2: No shit, your ass back down. I got thirty more minutes.

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Speaker 2: I got these lists of questions. So after about twenty

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Speaker 2: And it got to the point where other rappers would

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Speaker 2: I could pick out what was wrong. I didn't know

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Speaker 3: I hope that so you got you got your four

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Speaker 3: for like yeo, bro, yeah is over?

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Speaker 2: Well no, I will tell you that that. Come to

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Speaker 2: He told me two things that were very powerful. Number One,

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Speaker 2: Like, one of the hardest things for me is to

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Speaker 2: How am I gonna fuck over a young producer when

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Speaker 2: You feel me? So he was like, you're the same

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Speaker 2: And that's all I could ever ask in business, or

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Speaker 1: You brought up the word loneliness when we were talking

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Speaker 1: when you're facing that by yourself, right, Like, we're going

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Speaker 1: because you're deep into consciousness? How was that for you

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it's hard for me to say because words

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Speaker 5: I want to say, I want to say something.

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Speaker 2: But when you say it, you manifested. You manifested. So

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Speaker 2: I navigated better, That's what I say. I didn't always

438
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 2: navigate it well because in a lot of cases were

439
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: the first people to do what we've done. Imagine how

440
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: I felt in Mississippi going from being homeless. I literally

441
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 2: went from being homeless to them announcing David Banner has

442
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 2: a ten million dollar deal in the poor state and

443
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: arguably the poor city in America. Jackson, Yeah, yeah, So

444
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: for me to say that, you know, for people to

445
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: say that, and for me to have to navigate, you know,

446
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 2: not understanding taxes. But it's hard to explain to people.

447
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 2: Just because you're intelligent, that doesn't mean that you know everything.

448
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: You're intelligent in what you're great at. I didn't know

449
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 2: nothing about taxes. And yes, I went to school in business,

450
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: but name one place that they talk about taxes in

451
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 2: business school. I went through the whole fucking curriculum. They

452
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 2: don't teach you that, bro, And it's a game. So

453
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: not only and bro, I'm glad that y'all asked me

454
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: this question because I've never been able to say this before,

455
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 2: and I feel comfortable enough to talk about here. And

456
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 2: it also gives y'all something exclusive that I never said before.

457
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 5: But like, Bro, I'm still a black man from the streets.

458
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 5: I still gotta deal with street ship.

459
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: So not only do I have to deal excuse me, Jordan,

460
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna break I'm gonna break it for a second.

461
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: Not only do I gotta deal with crackers, which is ignorant,

462
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: I gotta deal with niggas too. So I gotta deal

463
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 2: with racism. I gotta deal with street shit. I gotta

464
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 2: deal with accountants. I gotta deal with lawyers. And then

465
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: a lot of times the lawyers are incohoots with the accountants, Bro.

466
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 2: And then your family and in the hood, you know,

467
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 2: everybody feels ownership that's not even fair. And most and

468
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: none of them bought a CD. That's the crazy thing.

469
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: Say your music. You know, this is the text they

470
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 2: don't talk about, Bro, and it's it's then and then

471
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: watch this. Then you're blessed to a crude new information

472
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: because now we're traveled. So, Bro, I'm in New York

473
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: and I'm in college, and I'm all these different places

474
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 2: getting knowledge yourself. I learned about Buddhism. And I'm from Mississippi,

475
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: a Christian Christian Christian, and they tell you what you're

476
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: going to hell forever ever ever, So imagine having to

477
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: navigate through all of those spaces nine times out of

478
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 2: tea and alone. I remember the women that I used

479
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: to date. They used to always tell me this. Besides

480
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: one young lady with two young ladies. It was one

481
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: young lady from Saint Louis, from U City, and it

482
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,719
Speaker 2: was one lady, one young lady from here. She was

483
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 2: from Hollis Queens. Those were the only two ladies that

484
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: I ever ever dealt with that pushed my activism, the

485
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: activism side of me. Most women will say, you got

486
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: all this money, what you're worried about? That fun I'm always.

487
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 5: Like, it's funny.

488
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: I was telling those talking to my publicist team yesterday,

489
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: we had a slight little tiff and I asked him.

490
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 5: I was like, what's the only time did I act?

491
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: The donkey? Tell me the only time I ever get

492
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: upset is about the liberation of black people. You ain't

493
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,199
Speaker 2: never had no problems with me about nothing. So if

494
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: people are treating my people right, you you never got

495
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: to worry about me. So didn't think about that too,

496
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: being an activist in Mississippi. Imagine hearing Brand Nubie and

497
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 2: this to Do asked, I stopped eating pork and eleventh

498
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: grade in Mississippi, thinking what my mom and dad they

499
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: thought about me. Oh, you ain't gonna eat these pork

500
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: chopp but you ain't gonna eat jack. But watch this though,

501
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you all how much my mom and

502
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: dad loved me. Once they found out that I was

503
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: serious about not eating pork. My whole family stopped eating pork.

504
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: I didn't notice that till I was a grown man.

505
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: Bacon Mama cooked breakfast with no hall.

506
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a moment even for us like that.

507
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: I stopped too. That's crazy.

508
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: So what made you stop being poor?

509
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: I was listening to my brother stopped listening. He was

510
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: listening to Brand Nubian. Obviously I'm listening to it because

511
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 1: he listening to it. And I was like, all right,

512
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: if he's gonna stop, then I'm gonnatop. Like this is

513
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 1: like I'm like eighty nine years old.

514
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: Let me tell you all what's amazing about hip hop? Man?

515
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: Imagine this, bro. I was actually able to tell sadat

516
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 2: because like a lot of times people still look at

517
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: me as David Banner. A lot of people that I

518
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: look up to actually look up to me, and I

519
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 2: never thought that would ever be the case. Bro, Like

520
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: I'm looking after them and they coming they asking me like,

521
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: damn man, what did you learn this? What book? And

522
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: how did you do this? But I was actually able

523
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: to tell Sadat like, Bro, you the reason why I.

524
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 5: Stopped eating poor Bro, you changed crazy.

525
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 3: That's ill, that's fire. Let me ask you this. On

526
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: the independent side, Snoop, I only met Snoop one time,

527
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 3: and it was crazy because he gave a lot of

528
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: game just in a very short period of time. One

529
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: of the things that he said was is insightful. He

530
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 3: was saying that we're talking about Beasts Ba Dre and

531
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: you know everybody know that. I think Apple bord it

532
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: for eight hundred million dollars something like that, and he

533
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: was like, sometimes they'll buy you to shelf you, yeah,

534
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 3: meaning like Beasts by Dre was lit. They had everybody,

535
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: they had all the rappers, they had athletes there. You

536
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: don't really see too much about beat by Dre now.

537
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 3: So his Apple Apple Apple bought them. So he's his

538
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: thing was like as soon as Apple buys Beats BA Dre,

539
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 3: all you hear is iPod the AirPods. So they essentially

540
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: brought the competition to kill the competition so they could

541
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 3: push their products, which is AirPods as opposed to Beat

542
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: by Dre.

543
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: What have you heard that before?

544
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: Though, Well, that's why I'm tying in with the music

545
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: because like slim Thug is my guy, Like that's a

546
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: personal friend of Austin. And he was saying, like how

547
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 3: he kind of regretted going to a label because it's

548
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: like the label, the allure of a label, like I

549
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: got a deal, now I got to I got my

550
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: own label under a label. But he was like, looking

551
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: back on it, it was better to just stay the

552
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: independent route. You think that that the music business has

553
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: done that?

554
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: Like of course that's what I was alluding to earlier.

555
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: I even take it a step further. Okay, then all right,

556
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,719
Speaker 2: see y'all starting I'm trying to stay on business. All right,

557
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: So peep this. Watch this. Watch this gonna blow your mind.

558
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: It's funny because I saw part of it here. What

559
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: was the big the Virgin megastore That was when I

560
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: knew they won. Watched this so they sucked up all

561
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: of the independent artists. First, gave us more money than

562
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: we ever seen before. But what that is to them

563
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: is a tax right off, right, because they make sure

564
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: in most cases that we fail. And then the other

565
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: rappers who were like me, unlike you know what I'm saying.

566
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: If if if let's say many Fresh decided that he

567
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: wanted to leave, right, I don't have to that problem

568
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: because I produce. Also, if Baby decided to leave, then

569
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: they don't have to worry about that because I run

570
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: my business. I understand my business. If Wayne decided to leave,

571
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: whether they rapper left or Julie decided to leave, a

572
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: BG decided to leave, well I do the rappers. I

573
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: do the rapping. So what ended up happening is is

574
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: after they soaked, they gave all this money and we

575
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: thought we had all of this money. And then the

576
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: first thing that you all know, I didn't understand is

577
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: what forty forty five percent of it is gone just

578
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: in taxi Right, then you're catching up for all of

579
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 2: the borrowing that you did and not having or getting

580
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: your first house and car, getting your mom straight. What

581
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: see long Green said that money be gone, So they

582
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: did that. That was easy. Didn't watch what they did.

583
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: I myself got a seventy thousand dollars check from Southwest Distribution.

584
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: We didn't need the majors. We had Gonzales, we had Southwestern,

585
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: We had distribution companies, real solid distribution companies. They soaked

586
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: them up and bought them out. Then guess what they did.

587
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: Black people learn how to get mom and pop stores,

588
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: even though a lot of them was burning CDs in

589
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: the back and bootlegging. But that was we even learned

590
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: how to We actually learned how to press CDs the fact. Right,

591
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: then they sucked up the mom and pop stores. I

592
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: don't know if you'll remember when they would put the

593
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: Feds started going to the mom and pop stores like

594
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,959
Speaker 2: they were really like they were selling drugs.

595
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 5: Bro Right, So then they sucked up the mom and

596
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 5: pop stores.

597
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: Then after they sucked up the mom and pop stores,

598
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: then they went for the major stores. Bro. We at

599
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: Virgin all we got to doing, say the Virgin Mega

600
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: Store bo literally and I know, I know, Jordan, but

601
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: I gotta say it, bro Like the Virgin Mega Store

602
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: was one of the few times besides walking into a

603
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: strip club where I think I slightly had an orgasm

604
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: when I would walking to the store leisurely, I mean

605
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: just being a I mean just being up Bro. One

606
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 2: thing that people don't understand about me, BRO, is I

607
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: really loved hip hop. I really loved it. I really

608
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: thought it was this real thing, Bro. I right like, BRO,

609
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: and I peeped what they did to the game, BRO,

610
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: and then we were okay with streaming after that. BRO.

611
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 5: Like we It's just like, Bro, we are addicted to.

612
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: Following our pressors, no matter how they treat us, no

613
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: matter how bad they do us, we run behind them. BRO.

614
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: I just left Forbes, and what I was telling them

615
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: over there at Forbes was like, one of the sad

616
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: things is that we get caught in the trends, no

617
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: matter how detrimental those trends may beat us. Like I

618
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: told them, there's nothing from a business standpoint that you

619
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: can tell me that was positive about streaming. And you

620
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: all are owned your business acumen, bro, at least at

621
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: y'all age. BRO, I don't know too many people y'all

622
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: ages that beat y'all on that side. Tell me one

623
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: positive thing about streaming you were getting. I just told

624
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: you I was getting ten dollars a CD two fractions

625
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: of pennies to just allow somebody to play my music

626
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: over and over again on their site. That's all streaming is.

627
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: They just play up, perpetually play your shit over and

628
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: over again, and then people tap into their site. What's

629
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: smart about that?

630
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: It's just psychological. Even Swiss Swiss Btest says something that

631
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: was insightful off so with you know, he went to

632
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: Harvard like that program that they have, and he was like,

633
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 3: one thing that he picked up is that in business,

634
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: you don't have to give somebody ownership, but you just

635
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: make them feel like they have ownership in their work.

636
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: So he equated that to labels. He's like, so when

637
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: they started giving everybody a label, they felt empowered because

638
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: now you're under a powered structure that you psychologically want

639
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: to be under anyway, and they make you're still a worker,

640
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: but you have a title of a CEO. So now

641
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: all everybody got a label, but nobody has distribution, nobody

642
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 3: has real ownership. But that's a way to keep everybody happy, satisfied.

643
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: It's so crazy. Bro I wrote this thesis paper that

644
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: directly correlated and connected slavery and the plantation two record labels,

645
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: you know and and through me doing my and through

646
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: me doing my research, I found that there was something

647
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: that was called yard niggas. So you look at, well, no,

648
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 2: the field niggas are the rappers, right, The yard niggas

649
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: are the A and rs. The house niggas are the

650
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: like the label execs right, and so bro, this you know,

651
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: I had a partner that helped me in it, but

652
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: it was genius and I may turn it into a

653
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: book one day, bro, whether we know it or not. Bro,

654
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: people act just like slaves and don't know it, like dude, Like,

655
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 2: if you look at just getting a deal, usually when

656
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: you look at getting hot in the hood as a

657
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: rapper or as a beat producer, all that is is

658
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: recruiting power, right, And what's the first thing you do

659
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: when you go get power? You don't believe that you

660
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: can wield that power, so you go find you a

661
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: white dude to do it for you.

662
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 5: Why couldn't a black person do it? Why couldn't you

663
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 5: do it?

664
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: Like? What is it? What is it? What is it

665
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 2: about us that we can't create our own internet? Dog?

666
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: Why you can't create your own store? Bro? And then

667
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 2: as soon as we start figuring it out and be like, oh,

668
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: we can do this shit.

669
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 5: And I'll give y all a great example.

670
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: And I blow people mind every time I tell them this.

671
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: You remember when shooting a video a rap video was

672
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 2: just like science, Like everybody was afraid to do it,

673
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: and nobody thought it that it could be done. And

674
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: somebody somewhere just went and got a fucking camera and

675
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: shot that bitch. Everybody started shooting the music video. And

676
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: it's starting to happen in movies now. Black folks are

677
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: starting to say, like, oh damn, we can use this

678
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: our phone and shoot a movie and put it up

679
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: on tob what you can do to be yourself. So

680
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: what ends up happening, bro, is like people won't admit

681
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: that they still have slave mindsets. Bro. And the crazy

682
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: thing is, I tell Black people this all the time,

683
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: is we talk about Jesus all the time. Black folks

684
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: get on they Jesus, kick Jesus, Jesus. But when anybody

685
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: start acting like Jesus, we usually crucify ourselves. Anytime somebody said,

686
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: well I'm gonna run this myself, well I'm gonna do this,

687
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: or I'm gonna because I believe that, why would God

688
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: allow us to be thinking beings thinking sentient beings. If

689
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't meant for us to challenge things, and so

690
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: all of those people that ever challenged anything, they usually

691
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: ended up dead or in jail. It's a fact. Language

692
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: is important.

693
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: And you use the word thought when you thought hip

694
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: hop was it almost feels like you don't recognize it now?

695
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 5: Or pop is imperialism? Have you fallen out of love

696
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 5: with it?

697
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: I have?

698
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 5: I have, I have, Yes, I have. But let me

699
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: tell you why I think God allowed me to.

700
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: So watch this. Just like they created that feeling of

701
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 2: hip hop that made us think that it was real,

702
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: we can do that on the other end of spec

703
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: on the other end of the spectrum. Me and Jordan.

704
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: That's from my publishers team. We talked about it today.

705
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Imagine if I created a company that because all you

706
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: got to do is create a company and get all

707
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: our friends and all I thought about that, going to

708
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: get Snoop, going to get Rahem Devn, getting all get

709
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: krit and all of us. Put a company together and

710
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: just make the splits equitable and then give other artists

711
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: what they deserve. But we know that we want. Maybe

712
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: God put us through what we were going through so

713
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 2: we can be the person to do it. I don't

714
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: think the story of Jesus was about a man coming

715
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 2: down to bear a cross for you. I think it

716
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 2: was about God coming in a physical form to show

717
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: you how to bury your own cross. If I can

718
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 2: come down here and be a man and do it,

719
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: you can too. You remember the story of Jesus when

720
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: he was walking on water and he had other people

721
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: walking with him until they started doing what doubting. You

722
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: are made out of the same stuff God has made

723
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: out of. You think it, you do it. So why

724
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: are we so scared? This is why it's the greatest

725
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 2: time in history as business men. Because you all noticed.

726
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 2: They thought we were crazy. They thought you all were

727
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: crazy until you did it. Think about Bro, me doing

728
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: hip hop in Mississippi. Bro, they thought I was crazy

729
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: today sound like a pill, Bro. All God has to

730
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 2: do is give you vision. People perish because of a

731
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: lack of vision. Bro. We see it, and I want

732
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: to tell you all this. This is very important.

733
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 5: You must listen to me on this.

734
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 2: Bro. Bro. We have to stop getting mad when people

735
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: don't see our vision. If people see your vision, then

736
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: it's general knowledge. Then you are no longer blessed. My

737
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: mother always said, you are blessed. Being a visionary is

738
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: a curse and a blessing. You're blessed to see other

739
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: things that people can't see, but you're cursed to sit

740
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: in them alone. I'm grateful for this deficit. I am

741
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 2: grateful for this experience that we're having with Trump, because

742
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: now we know that America cares nothing about the black

743
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: man and woman. I was speaking at a female reproductive summit,

744
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: and I think I scared a couple of people, but

745
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 2: I told them the truth. I said, the first thing

746
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: that you have to understand as a black woman is

747
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: they don't want you to reproduce black kids anyway. So

748
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: when you're wondering why we are dying at this rate,

749
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 2: you gotta first understand that you keep going to their hospitals,

750
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: you keep going to their mothers and fathers, and when

751
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: they don't want you to have black children in the

752
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: first place. So until you admit that, and I know

753
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: it's scary, I know it's hard to digest, but until

754
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: we understand that if we don't come back and save us,

755
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: no one will Ain't nobody coming out the sky. Because

756
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: if the way that I think about Jesus is true,

757
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: Jesus already came down and showed you what to do.

758
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 2: What he she or it got to come back for Bro.

759
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 2: That's the reason why I want to be a billionaire.

760
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: Most people want to be a billionaire so they can

761
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 2: live in abundance. I want to be a billionaire because

762
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: I want to free to people. Bro. I don't want

763
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: nobody to have to go to Warner Brothers no more

764
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: if they don't want to. I don't want kids to

765
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: ever see a time where there's not a black Superman

766
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: because they can come to a Banner vision And ain't

767
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: it crazy speaking to Superman? How are you energized by

768
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 2: the sun and you're actually practically you know, you're actually

769
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: a battery incarnate? When white people they skin does what

770
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: to the sun? It reached next the sun? They've run

771
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 2: from the sun. How can Superman be white when it

772
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 2: superpower is the Sun and y'all can't sit out in

773
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: the sun five minutes without Dad thought, no, no, no, Actually,

774
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 2: a white scientist I read an article a white scientist

775
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 2: that there's no way possible that Superman is white. Knowing

776
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: what you know, yeah, and what you study.

777
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: We had this conversation with where I am the first

778
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: thing we asked on was how do you sleep knowing

779
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: that all of this but the other do you feel.

780
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: As a threat to the opposition? All right, So I've

781
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: grown spiritually where I don't hate anybody anymore. One thing

782
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: that I realized is, first of all, you have to

783
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 2: understand that these people came from Europe. It came from

784
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 2: a cold climate where you know, there's not many resources,

785
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: there's not much time. You know, if you don't if

786
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 2: you don't plant at the right time in the right

787
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: place and harvest and collect, it's cold seven you're like,

788
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: what seven to eight nine months? So the scarcity martians, Yes,

789
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 2: So like it's not just that the fact that they're biggest.

790
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: So they're racists, are survival on this planet period, and

791
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: they are the recessive gene. So I'm not emotional about it.

792
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: So what I realized is, and be honest, guys, if

793
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 2: it was a rattlesnake over there in that corner, you

794
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: would and kiss that rattlesnake and there's.

795
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 5: A rattlesnake bitch you in the mouth, would you be mad?

796
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 3: No?

797
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 2: Why not?

798
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: You asked for it?

799
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: Why would I be biting rattlesnake? And historically over and

800
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: over again. You kiss a rattle snake in the mouth,

801
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 2: it's gonna get bit right. So historically it's black people

802
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 2: while we keep going over there by the rattle.

803
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: So that brings up a good point because are you

804
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: from Mississippi? So civil rights it's different. We all have

805
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: different struggles in America. Racism no matter where you at happening.

806
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: But the history of the South is different from the

807
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 3: history of the North. I was just watching the movie

808
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 3: Till for the first time, story of m Me tell

809
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: if anybody hasn't seen it, to watch it. So being

810
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: that you come from the South, right, you know, doctor CLAUDA. Anderson, Yes,

811
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: So he brung up a good point where he was

812
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: saying that he thought the civil rights movement was misguided

813
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: because integration took out a lot of black businesses and

814
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 3: it gave us an illusion of inclusion.

815
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: Integration was worse than slavery. Talk about that, Okay, Well,

816
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: if you look at slavery for what it is, we

817
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 2: just lost the war that we didn't know that we

818
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: were in. I mean, that just happens. Really, if you

819
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: really look at it for what it is. It's just

820
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: whether it would have been Native Americans, whether it would

821
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: have been the Irish people. Whoever, it would have been

822
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 2: the reason why we ended up being who we were.

823
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: And the pecking order is because we survived and because

824
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 2: we're children in the sun, so we are children of

825
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: the sun, so we can last in the sun. We

826
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: were more.

827
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 5: Durable as just human beings in period.

828
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 2: Right, So the problem is is that in the mechanism

829
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 2: of slavery, if you have the chains on, you always

830
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 2: know that you have to escape. Integration gave us the

831
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: illusion of winning. It's the same way that I feel

832
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: about the devil. People get mad at me because I said,

833
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: I don't believe the devil exists. I believe that white

834
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: people gave you the devil so that you won't realize

835
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: that you are the problem. If you always think it's

836
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: something outside of yourself, you will never correct yourself. You'll

837
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: always put it on an external entity. And if you

838
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: really do believe in God, in one God, why would

839
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 2: you ever compare anything to the most high? Why would

840
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: you even have it? In the same sentence, right, you

841
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: are the problem. We are our own problems in business

842
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: and spirituality, in everything. For me, I just realized, bro

843
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: that this is so powerful.

844
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 5: Watch this y'all gonna love this. What is the name

845
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 5: of y'all company?

846
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: Earn your leisure? You gotta fucking earn it. It ain't

847
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: coming from nowhere. Unless you earn it, you will never

848
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: have the leisure that you are looking for. Hold on

849
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: for a second, let's pause.

850
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: This is a message brought to you by that was

851
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: dope as fucking numbers be in the movies with some

852
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: black and white shit.

853
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 2: Bro thought about that in my hand and I was like, Yo,

854
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: that's dope as fuck. This is a message pro to you, Boden.

855
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: David.

856
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: But I'm serious though, Bro. I thought of like I

857
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: was thinking about like that. Damn, that's dope. Like, we

858
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: have to earn our leisure. We have to earn our freedom, Bro.

859
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: And the thing is is, Bro, the real truth is

860
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: that we're gonna have to suffer for a while. You know.

861
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: If you think about most people that come to America, Bro,

862
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: like they'll sleep ten twelve to a house. One person

863
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 2: that get successful, he'll go buy a house, bring five

864
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: people over there.

865
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: And it's not integration. We a few blocks away from

866
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 3: Chinatown right now. There's no integration in Chinatown. You go

867
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: to Chinatown and it is only Mandarin that's spoken and

868
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: you go to like different parts. They've integrated in the

869
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 3: greater society of America, but they're very intentional about maintaining

870
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 3: and they're not They're unapologized. It's crazy Indian culture. I went,

871
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: we went to London. We stayed in the W Hotel

872
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: in Soho. Now we didn't know that that was Chinatown.

873
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 3: So the uber driver was taking us there and they

874
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 3: was like, why are you staying in W, Like it's

875
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: a W. They're like, well, only Chinese people stay there,

876
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: but the W is not a Chinese hotel. So I'm like, well,

877
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 3: he's like, well the owner of that W is Chinese,

878
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: so that's not even a Chinese brand. But they they

879
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 3: when they come to London, you know, and they don't

880
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 3: they don't got to be told to do that. It's natural, right,

881
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: So it's like that's something that we can't wait to

882
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: go away from everything.

883
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 5: Like I know some guys that are doing some work

884
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 5: in Africa.

885
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: That's I do my research too. We're not gonna go

886
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 2: there this. Yeah, I appreciate the research, No bro, I

887
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: appreciate that. Yes, no, no, I was actually doing some

888
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: similar business and and just I was doing some similar business.

889
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm saying, Bro. People are looking to

890
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: help us. We just have to find them. We just

891
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 2: have to.

892
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 5: Travel, bro.

893
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 2: And when you start traveling and looking, Bro, I'm saying

894
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: from a spiritual standpoint, you what they always say, like,

895
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: you take a step to God.

896
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 5: God take a you know, eight nine ten to you.

897
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: But is that marketing to like, even with the label right,

898
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: is that marketing where we just feel is that white

899
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: supremacy where we feel like if we get included in

900
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 3: white power structure, that's the ultimate goal. So we'll run

901
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 3: away from black inclusion.

902
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: So I'll tell you something, and I hope that by

903
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: me giving you this example, it'll make it a little

904
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: bit clearer. So have you all ever heard in football

905
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 2: when they say that white quarterbacks are smarter? Okay, so

906
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: white quarterbacks are not smarter, they just are not as

907
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: physical as black people are. I think it was Bill Burr.

908
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: He said it like if a white quarterback could jump

909
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 2: over a linebacker, he would, but he can't. A white

910
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: quarterback Like, as an animal, you're gonna run first, you're

911
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: gonna jump first, you're gonna fight first. But if you

912
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: can't run, you're gonna have to think so. I mean,

913
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 2: it wasn't no need for Mike Vick to think about nothing.

914
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 2: He would just outrun you. What animals? Do you understand

915
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? So, I think what ends up happening

916
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: is because white people are not as a whole. I'm

917
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: not saying that there's not individuals as talented as we are.

918
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: They have to think of mechanisms. I watched the NBA

919
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: do it all the time. Since they can't play the

920
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: game no more, then they find a way to always

921
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 2: change the rules. That's when the play in tournaments and

922
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, because they have to find

923
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: a way to be involved in the game because they

924
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: can't jump or coach. Again. Yeah, but even now we're

925
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: getting close, because there's no way that.

926
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 5: Mark Jackson is not coaching somewhere.

927
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 2: Bro. Come on. But for me, Bro, I realize that

928
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 2: that is all well and fine, because I truly believe this, Bro.

929
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: I believe that a very wise man from out of

930
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: Philadelphia told me is Bro. He said that all these

931
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: things that happened are just to bring us closer to God.

932
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 2: That's all all this is for, is that if we

933
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 2: would take the lesson and earn our leisure then at

934
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: the end of the day, bro Like, with all of

935
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: this stuff going on with Trump, and we would take

936
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: the message that people are not going to help us.

937
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: We keep looking for DEI like, why would you want

938
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 2: to be around somebody that don't want to help you.

939
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 5: I don't understand this, bro.

940
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: Like.

941
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 5: There's a restaurant in Atlanta that Tip and Ernestine.

942
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 2: They boycotted. And I know for sure because my ex

943
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: girlfriend spent seventy eight thousand dollars a year because when

944
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: she didn't want to have meetings in her office, she

945
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: would go there.

946
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 5: I know the story.

947
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: She told me as much money as as she spent

948
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 2: in there. How racist those people were. I have not

949
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: been in that restaurant in ten years. I'm never going back.

950
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: When people show you who they are. If a company

951
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: doesn't believe that DI is the thing that they're supposed

952
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 2: to do because it's the right thing to do, I

953
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: don't want you to do it because somebody is pressuring you.

954
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 2: That means that we shouldn't buy them. And the thing

955
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: about it is is whenever you remove your money and

956
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: your attention, they'll get right. My opinion, you.

957
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: Brought up a big grit and shout out to Big

958
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: Crit Historic run Man legendary felt like that was a

959
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: pathway for them, and it's kind of been like a

960
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: hiatus form and music for the past few years. And

961
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: you said something important. You've beverly intentionally did that, Yeah,

962
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: and helped you house.

963
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 2: So Big Crit. When I was going through my depression,

964
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: Big Crit was actually the person that told me, you know,

965
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: to look at your environment sometimes in a spiritual way.

966
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: It's the environment. Also the house that you're in. You

967
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: don't know who lived in it before. You don't know

968
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: if it's the people that you brought into your house,

969
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: if their spirits are still lingering. Like it's all of

970
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: these things that our grandmother's understand, and it's the things

971
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: that I think they were trying to hint on in

972
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: centers that because of conventional religion and one thing that

973
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: I hate, I just got to say this, and Jordan,

974
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go too far into this, but like

975
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:03,399
Speaker 2: we always jump on these spiritual boats about what other

976
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 2: religions do, but we have not like really made people

977
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 2: stand on what they did to us under the guise

978
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: of the conventional religions that we believe in in America.

979
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: If you look at the continent of Africa. It's not

980
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: chopped up because of who believed in what God. It's

981
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: chopped up because of the oppressors who won won the

982
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: wars in those places. In most cases, people were not

983
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: Christian because they wanted to be Christian. It was Christians

984
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: because they're Christian conquerors conquered that land, or Muslim conquerors

985
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 2: conquered that land. If they're if the if they're if

986
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 2: they're not believing in the indigenous religion of that land.

987
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 2: And it really wasn't a religion, it was a way

988
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 2: of life. If you look at most African people, you

989
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: look at most native people anywhere you go, they believed

990
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: that God was in everything. And if you look at

991
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: the indigenous Asian people, it was very similar to African people.

992
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying, bro, Like everywhere we go

993
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: and so we get into these religious things, bro, and

994
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: not understand how we are controlled. Bro. I love the

995
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: implications of sinners, and I understood what they meant by

996
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: us tapping back into what our grandmothers believe in. You know,

997
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: I don't mind you know, you believing in the religion

998
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: you believed in, but if you haven't tested it if

999
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: you haven't done the research, if you haven't translated, because

1000
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: they've lied about everything on this planet, Bro, and how

1001
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: and how that transfers into business. I'll answer a question

1002
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: that you asked me earlier that I sort of got

1003
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: away from. I believe that the reason why black people

1004
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 2: continue to forgive people is because Jesus looked like them.

1005
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: If Jesus looked like us, maybe we would forgive us

1006
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: or the black bank that made one mistake, when the

1007
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: white bank make a thousand mistakes and you forget it

1008
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: them every day, Hines ketchup make for.

1009
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 3: The portrayal of Jesus, the white Jesus with blue eyes

1010
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 3: and blind headed. You're one of the most dangerous things

1011
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: that's ever happened on this planet.

1012
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 2: I had. I had a d We were building out

1013
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 2: in front of of a store in Atlanta, and dude

1014
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: said something so powerful to me, Bro that it still

1015
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: shakes me to this day.

1016
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 5: He says that he said that Jesus exists.

1017
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: Whether Jesus existed or not, the most powerful person on

1018
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: this planet, it's Jesus. The most powerful book on this

1019
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 2: planet is the Bible. Whether it's right or wrong. We're

1020
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 2: not gonna argue that that's not my place. So if

1021
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: you believe that they hold the key to God, then

1022
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: you're always gonna forget them.

1023
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

1024
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: And you always don't think they water is weather.

1025
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 3: You're always going to think that you're they're superior. Yeah,

1026
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: it's natural. Like I read a book one time. This

1027
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 3: guy who's a refugee from this Let me.

1028
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: Ask you a question about him real quick, bro, He says,

1029
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 2: the coldest ship in the world, right, and doesn't break

1030
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: face every No, bro, I just saw your mama principle

1031
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 2: at the school. Deal with that information.

1032
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 3: Do what you want.

1033
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 2: But he just said the coldest sitting looked me in mind,

1034
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: didn't break character. Use me when I say shit, I'd

1035
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: be like that shit, don't that'sh He was like, no, no,

1036
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: they control your mind. You think they're superior. Let's continue

1037
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: on five four three two.

1038
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: No.

1039
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 3: But so the guy was from the suit in and

1040
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: he had never saw a white person before ever, and

1041
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: so he was like ten years old and then like

1042
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,439
Speaker 3: a missionary somebody from the un So a white person

1043
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: came into his village and he said when he saw

1044
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 3: him the first person, the first thing that he thought

1045
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: that he had died because he thought that this was

1046
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 3: God Jesus. And the only reason why he thought that

1047
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 3: is because up until that point, the only portrait that

1048
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 3: he's ever seen of white people was Jesus, a white Jesus.

1049
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: So he automatically connected the first white person where he

1050
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: that he saw to God. So imagine the grace that

1051
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: you're going to give somebody psychologically, right, the grace that

1052
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna give somebody psychologically if you think that their

1053
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 3: God or the equivalent to God. And then imagine the

1054
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: disdain that you'll have for somebody who think is the

1055
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 3: direct opposite of that.

1056
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 2: And then the deep part to that is even when

1057
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: there when even though their book tells you his skin

1058
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: was like burnt copper hair, you know, like, yeah, good,

1059
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: that sounds like a Rastafarian to me. Bro, No, I'm

1060
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: that serious.

1061
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 3: But it also it also shows you how powerful art is.

1062
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: That's what that is is art, right, that's a portrait

1063
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 3: of SZR. Borgos Son. And so the art is more

1064
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: important than the text because, like you said, you can

1065
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 3: read the text, but that visual painting over overrides what's

1066
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 3: actually in the text.

1067
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: So we played one word game, just me and just me,

1068
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 2: and you do the counsel of Naicia. Yes, I can't

1069
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 2: even have that conversation Like, that's what I'm telling you

1070
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: about the stuff that I learned about. Bro, I can't

1071
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: even have these conversations with my friends with my mother.

1072
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 5: Bro, Like, you just got to sit on that, Bro.

1073
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: And that's where your relationship with God is so important, man,

1074
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: because Bro, my grandmother died thinking she was free. My

1075
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: grandma actually died happy and bro Like for me, Man Like,

1076
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 2: I am so grateful that if nothing else, Bro is

1077
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: that I know. And I'm also grateful that people consider me.

1078
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: That's one thing that I can say about my relationship

1079
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 2: with hip hop that I don't know if anybody else

1080
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: on hip hop had.

1081
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 5: People at least consider me.

1082
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 2: Bro. I don't know why. I don't know what I've

1083
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: done to earn that, man, but I am so grateful

1084
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: to God. Bro. I speak this in Christian churches in

1085
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: Mississippi and not get strung up and black people be like,

1086
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 2: you might not let you come back here no more,

1087
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: but at least you get to walk out. But no, Bro,

1088
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: get out of there. But I'm serious, Like, black people

1089
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: consider me, Bro, and I am so grateful man to

1090
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: be that. You know, I don't. I don't know what

1091
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: to do with it. I try, BRO, But like, I'll

1092
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: tell y'all something only because I'm enjoying this interview so much. Bro.

1093
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 5: But like, Bro, it's hard on me.

1094
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 2: Bro. I didn't lost over twelve million dollars Bro because

1095
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: of my activism, my opportunities.

1096
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 5: Not just opportunities.

1097
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: Bro. But you gotta think, man, Like, let's just be honest. BRO.

1098
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: I get my money from Disney. Bro, I give my

1099
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 2: money from PepsiCo.

1100
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 4: Bro.

1101
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 2: Like, I'm just being honest with you. And like, black people,

1102
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: for some reason, think that money comes from some imaginary place.

1103
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: When you're activist, it don't. Bro. If it don't come

1104
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: from you, it don't happen. That's why again, I am

1105
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 2: going to sing you all's praises.

1106
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: Bro.

1107
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 2: You found you all found a way to galvanize the

1108
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: people and make them excited about spending money with other

1109
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: black people. That's powerful, Gee, that is powerful.

1110
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: How have you responded when you're face being tested? I

1111
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: think that's when you really find out who you are spiritually, right,

1112
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: So like in the moments, especially dealing with the music

1113
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: industry and just dealing with life over the course of time,

1114
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: how has that been for you, Okay, ask the question.

1115
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: In a more direct way with one sentence, because this

1116
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 2: is very important and I want to make sure that

1117
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 2: I answer it in the right way. I'll say, like this,

1118
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 2: how about this? Have you always been this develot? Have

1119
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 2: you grown to it?

1120
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: And in times of questioning your faith or challenging your faith?

1121
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: How is that shape to you? All? That's actually worse? No,

1122
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: but I got it, man. So the amazing thing to

1123
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: me about God is sort of like your dad bro,

1124
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: like fathers bro, like you think about the teachers that

1125
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: really loved you. Now that we've grown, I had this

1126
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: new thing. You have to make a choice as a parent.

1127
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 2: And I'm not even a parent yet. Your children can

1128
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: like you when they're young and not respect you when

1129
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: they're grown, because they'd be like, that's some bullshit. You

1130
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 2: should have stayed on my ass, Like or you cannot

1131
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: spare the rod, they say, spare the rod quick in

1132
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 2: the child to the grave. Right, So your kids cannot

1133
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: like you when their children and then respect you when

1134
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: they grown. I remember beinging the Butcher saying that on

1135
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: my podcast. He said he went back to his hood

1136
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 2: and checked his OJ's. Can't I say nigga. He was like, nigga,

1137
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: how y'all had as selling dope at ten, y'all was

1138
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 2: supposed to be fathers. Bro, how y'all let us take

1139
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: those penitentiary chances at fourteen?

1140
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 5: Bro response, He didn't tell me what the response was.

1141
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 2: But I thought that was so brave. He said, he

1142
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 2: really went back and checked his OJZ BRO. So what

1143
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm saying is is that since God loves us, sometimes

1144
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: I can equate my struggle to the amount of love

1145
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: and how much God trusts me with that mantle, bro,

1146
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: or with that responsibility. Excuse me. So, like what I'm

1147
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: learning now, and this is just my opinion, y'all, faith

1148
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: in God is not jumping off of the mountain, because

1149
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 2: you could just be a fucking food and jump off

1150
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 2: the mountain. The real test is you jumping off the mountain,

1151
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: God letting you fall face first on the concrete and

1152
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: number one, you didn't understand that you survived, number one,

1153
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: but waiting to see if you was gonna curse his

1154
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 2: or her or its name and then give you wings

1155
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: to fly. That's what I'm learning that real faith is

1156
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 2: not just jumping off the mountain. Now when stuff don't work,

1157
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: your way when you don't get it exactly when you

1158
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: want to, and then realize that when if you would

1159
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 2: have got it when you wanted to, you would have

1160
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 2: wrecked it anyway. So when I am learning about it

1161
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: is to stop asking God why and ask God What's

1162
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 2: I just while you said it, I mean, but did

1163
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: it click? Clicked?

1164
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: Because it made me think of when Lupe says struggle

1165
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: another sign that God loves you.

1166
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 2: That's a bar. That's his penitentiary. That ain't just a bar,

1167
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 2: that's the whole penitentiary. You can build a penitentiary off

1168
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, you was about to.

1169
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 3: Say something mental health, because you too.

1170
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm a fucking wreck dog, I know, I just said.

1171
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 2: I didn't want to say it. I'm a fucking red.

1172
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 3: You spoke about work in progress.

1173
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: Language is important. I just wanted to let it go

1174
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: one time, bro.

1175
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: But you spoke about you spoke about, you know, depression.

1176
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of people, especially men right that

1177
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 3: are going through things that they can't identify what it is,

1178
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 3: and b they're going through things and they don't know

1179
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 3: how to seek help. So my question is, how did

1180
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 3: you identify you was in that place and how did

1181
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 3: you seek the help to get out of that well one.

1182
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 2: Truthfully, I'm not a rape man. I'm actually very proud

1183
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: of the man that I am I'm becoming, and I

1184
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: am grateful also that the blessings that I did think

1185
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: that I wanted. Bro, If I would have got him earlier,

1186
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: I would have messed it up, bro. Like I honestly thinking,

1187
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 2: and I'm not just saying this because I'm on y'all show,

1188
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: I really believe it. I believe why should God bless

1189
01:03:54,360 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 2: me with the financial opulence that I leave that I

1190
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: deserve when I would have just gave it to them

1191
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 2: through not paying my taxes anyway, like some things we

1192
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 2: won't were not ready for him. Maybe God and then

1193
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 2: bless us with him because he share it, knew that

1194
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: it would be a nightmare, so that we have to

1195
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 2: be prepared to receive it, because if not, then you're

1196
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 2: just to conduit to bless your enemy because they just

1197
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 2: gonna take it away from you from not being prepared,

1198
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 2: not being well read, not understanding accounting, not understanding taxes,

1199
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: all of these things. We want all of this money, bro,

1200
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: but we don't do the things to earn our leisure. Damn.

1201
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: That's though but what was the question more directly, like.

1202
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 3: How did you know you was depressed? How did you

1203
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 3: seek help to get out of that the pressure?

1204
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: So I found out from my therapist that sometimes not

1205
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: all the time that your the brain protects you from

1206
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 2: all the trauma that we've been through. And you wonder why,

1207
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 2: because this is one of the things that I tripped on.

1208
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: And I never said this in public either, but I'm

1209
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 2: having such a great time. Bro, y'all doing a great job. Bro.

1210
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: I was tripping because I was depressed, and I was like, Bro,

1211
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 2: I've been in shootouts, I've been homeless and happy and

1212
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: all this stuff. Bro, Like, why am I tripping now? Bro?

1213
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: I gotta bent me outside? What I am I tripping? Like?

1214
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: I'm dating models? And bro, if I want to go

1215
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 2: to Japan right now? Matter of fact, I knew a

1216
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: way if I wanted to go out of space, I

1217
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: can afford to go out of space. Literally, maybe not

1218
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 2: twelve times, but I go out of space one time.

1219
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: I got that kind of bread right. But what I

1220
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: realized is that the human brain protected us until we

1221
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 2: got into space where we could handle it, and then

1222
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: the brain was like, okay, now you got a little

1223
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 2: bit of bread. Deal with that that happened to you

1224
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: when you were nine, Deal with your mama leaving you outside,

1225
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: you know, and you're being adopted. This didn't happen to me.

1226
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying. And so I just started getting

1227
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 2: to the point, man, where I think I had the

1228
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 2: mental space when you in the streets, Bro, like we

1229
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 2: was in the streets, you didn't have no time to

1230
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: worry because other stuff was happening daily all the time,

1231
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And so I started realizing, Man,

1232
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 2: that I was in the space. I had the means too.

1233
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 2: And then the other side of this, I have talked

1234
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: about this in other places. I am realizing. And I'm

1235
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 2: not a therapist, So y'all go and talk to your therapist.

1236
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: Don't put this on David Benner also found that one

1237
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 2: of the things that we think is depression, that's not

1238
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 2: always depressing. Depression is us breaking the programming. Like, Bro,

1239
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: we have been lied to, not just by white people,

1240
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: not just by America, but by parents who was giving

1241
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 2: us the best stuff that they possibly could. But a

1242
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff is lies, Bro, And so a

1243
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 2: lot of times, Bro, if you have been and I

1244
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 2: talked about this today, movies and television are what television programming.

1245
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 2: We are being programmed every day. And this is one

1246
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: thing that as much knowledge itself, as much social and

1247
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: financial literacy that you all may be giving people, you

1248
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 2: can't beat Fox Network, not yet. We on our way,

1249
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: but they can program, they can tell but that Christopher

1250
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 2: Columbus discovering America. That's a damn lie. So a lot

1251
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 2: of times, bro, we are breaking. It's actually what we

1252
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 2: feel is depression is actually us healing. The same way

1253
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 2: I realized when I fast A lot of the times

1254
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: when I think I need to go eat, it's actually

1255
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 2: the impurities coming out of my body. I don't need

1256
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: to put any more in there. I just need to

1257
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 2: wait for a minute. So I started realizing, man, that

1258
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 2: you know, I had to break myself. I had to

1259
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: allow the most high to totally run his, her or

1260
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,439
Speaker 2: its course with me. Bro, And then I'm all right,

1261
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 2: and that you all are doing a good job, bro,

1262
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 2: just for us to wake up every day and get

1263
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: at it again. Y'all doing a good job. You know

1264
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Sweetye, As much as you peek over

1265
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 2: here and look at me, because I do smell good.

1266
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 2: And that I'm handsome, the fact that you can restrain

1267
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 2: yourself and not total.

1268
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 3: No'm just joking.

1269
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 2: That might be somebody, girlfriend, I'm just joking. But no,

1270
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: like we are surviving man. And to be honest with you, Bro,

1271
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how I made it through. I had

1272
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 2: an assistant once he told me. He said, David, if

1273
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 2: I knew for a fact that I could make it

1274
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: and all of my dreams could come true, but I

1275
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 2: had to go through what you went through. He said,

1276
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do it. Bro. I've been through it, dog,

1277
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: But I'm here. Bro. Bro, I look better than I

1278
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 2: did when I was twenty seven years old. Bro, I

1279
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,759
Speaker 2: am stronger than I've ever been in my life. Brom

1280
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 2: making so much fucking money, dog, like it's coming to me. Bro.

1281
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 2: And it's so crazy, Bro, because a lot of people

1282
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 2: about finances and opulence and say that it's evil.

1283
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 5: It is not, Bro. It is what you allow it

1284
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 5: to be.

1285
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 2: And Bro, when I started vibrating on the right level,

1286
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 2: getting around the right people, reading the right information, and

1287
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: I just want to say this, I don't know if

1288
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: you all disagree with me or not, but as I'm

1289
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: moving to that next level of life, most people who

1290
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 2: deal in money at the level that we're dealing with now,

1291
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 2: then people will never give you the secrets, the real

1292
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 2: secrets to allow you to be their competition. They won't.

1293
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 2: If you look at other financial books, it's usually never

1294
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: written by the person that's on the cover. They will

1295
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: give you enough to be successful so you can can

1296
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: continue reading their books and consuming their information. But the

1297
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 2: real truth, BRO, you gotta get around people that know stuff,

1298
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: or you got to try and fail over and over

1299
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 2: again until you can piece the equation together. Bro. That's

1300
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 2: what I'm learning. BRO. You just you gotta get out

1301
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 2: there and make them mistakes or go and find people. BRO.

1302
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 5: I invested in a cold fusion company.

1303
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: And my friends were like, what the fuck? Give what

1304
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: you know about confusion? Nothing? But I add that did

1305
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 2: buy me the opportunity to get into our generation's Einstein.

1306
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: I met that guy, the people that I was around,

1307
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you all this too a lot of times,

1308
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: because people will never tell you all this. When you're

1309
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 2: dealing with people who are in money at that level,

1310
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 2: they're usually going to try to make you do something,

1311
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: to sacrifice something to make sure that you're worthy of

1312
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: being around them. Bro.

1313
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 5: It's like dude told me.

1314
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 2: He was like, Bro, you got to get a ticket

1315
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 2: to Australia if you want this opportunity. And it's like

1316
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: a fourteen day turnaround. That had never been to Australia before,

1317
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: out straight out the hood. Bro, I can't lie. I

1318
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 2: was scared. I ain't know nobody over there. But what

1319
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 2: made me do it was I had thrown that amount

1320
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: of money that they were asking for the initial investment. Bro.

1321
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 2: I had thrown that.

1322
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 5: In the club in Magic City, and BRO, show enough.

1323
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 2: As soon as I made that sacrifice, Bro, they open up.

1324
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: That's why I learned about the law of attraction. That's

1325
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 2: why I learned. BRO. Like them people if you vibrate

1326
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: on the right level, you walk into like let's say

1327
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: if I brought you, they know how.

1328
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 5: They know that I know how they are about the circle.

1329
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: Right, and they'll come over there and they'll ask you.

1330
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 2: They'll be like, what you do for a living? You know,

1331
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: all in a company, they earn your leisure. We're trying

1332
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 2: to you know this. They'd be like, all right, next thing,

1333
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 2: you know, they'll hand your phone and it'll be the

1334
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: CEO or the biggest company in the world and what

1335
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 2: they told me is that they don't want it back

1336
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: from me. They get it back from the universe if

1337
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 2: you're a right person, like they they the only thing

1338
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: they didn't like about me was my music. It's like,

1339
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:50,880
Speaker 2: you gotta stop doing that music. It's negative, Like we

1340
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: don't really do negative, but you're so special. And they

1341
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 2: were the ones that taught me that I came back

1342
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 2: to America and started doing my black friends the way

1343
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: that they taught me. Like, Bro, if you writing a movie,

1344
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: I got a house in Mississippi that I never go to. Bro,

1345
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 2: won't you go down there and just just go down

1346
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: there and write your movie? Here go my keys. The

1347
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 2: only thing I asked is whatever money that you was

1348
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 2: gonna pay to rent a car or whatever get at

1349
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 2: to this organization. That's the type of people that I

1350
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: started being around, Bro, And when I started living that

1351
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 2: kind of life, Bro, money and opportunity just came to me.

1352
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 2: That's probably we got to meet them. They hard to meet.

1353
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 2: But let me tell you one other thing that they

1354
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 2: do that I think is dope. Bro. They'll get together

1355
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 2: and we don't think like this. They'll all get together

1356
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 2: and be like, Yo, let's let's go to Europe. They'll

1357
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: be like that, all right, man, what you would have

1358
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: paid for the w Let's all put our money together

1359
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 2: and rent a castle. That's the kind of shit that

1360
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 2: is genius and in actuality when you really look at

1361
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: it and put it together. The castle would probably end

1362
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: up being cheaper if it's twelve of us and they

1363
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 2: when we're barling in the castle. Bro.

1364
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,520
Speaker 5: But we want to keep it to ourselves, and that's slavery.

1365
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 2: Stunning is a habit. You like me?

1366
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: Well, there is one book that kind of debunks what

1367
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 1: you just said.

1368
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 2: You deserve to be rich, written.

1369
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: By Troy Millings and Rachell Blow you the town's bestseller

1370
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: for the record.

1371
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 3: You're going by it rich boys, for sure, but.

1372
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 2: Y'all the one that's doing it though. So you all

1373
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: are the exception to the rule. And that's the only

1374
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 2: reason why I'm here. Just love my brother.

1375
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, David Banner. Ladies and gentlemen. Always a

1376
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: pleasure that any time we get to chop it. I mean,

1377
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 3: we got we gotta speak more often, man.

1378
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 2: But this is special. I can't wait to see this.

1379
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: Just one more question before we leave, one more because

1380
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 2: I don't know it's something that I'm missing. I feel

1381
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 2: like I'm missing.

1382
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: Well, I was trying to get the Krit story out.

1383
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,759
Speaker 1: We kind of went around it. We really didn't answer

1384
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,720
Speaker 1: none of the questions. But I brought it back up

1385
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: because we were having a conversation before we started, and

1386
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: I was like, stop, I want the people to hear that,

1387
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 1: because it was important for a couple of reasons. Number one, brotherhood,

1388
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: but the other one was introspection and retrospect, like, I'm

1389
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: looking at this differently because a contemporary has showed me

1390
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: something I didn't though.

1391
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: Well, Bro, I honestly think that Krick is one of

1392
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: the dopest artists on his planet. And I've told him

1393
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: this to his face so I can say it on camera.

1394
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: I had to tell Krit that you are a generational talent.

1395
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 2: You know.

1396
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 5: He reminds me of BB King.

1397
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:45,799
Speaker 2: He reminds me of just Bro. Just just some artists

1398
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: that take a minute, Bro, you know, but they're going

1399
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: to be here for the rest of their life. If

1400
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 2: Krick chose to rap at eighty, I think he would

1401
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 2: be just fine. Bro. And so I told Krick man, like,

1402
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 2: you gotta star competing, Bro, You ain't got to compete

1403
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: with them.

1404
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 5: They are not you.

1405
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 2: They'll had this moment think about all those artists that

1406
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:11,480
Speaker 2: was so much more successful than me when I came out,

1407
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 2: but they couldn't give away an album. They would pay

1408
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 2: y'all to get on here and couldn't get on here. Bro.

1409
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 5: And so that's the type of artist that Krit is.

1410
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: And so me and Krit talk a lot, bro, and

1411
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 2: Krit told me he was like, I'll tell you the

1412
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 2: most important thing he told me. And I ain't even

1413
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 2: know that Chris thought about me this way. Krit was like, Banner,

1414
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 2: no matter what you do, you are a threat to America,

1415
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: he said. Whether you he said, whether you were revolutionary

1416
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: or not, whether you spoke your mind or not. You

1417
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: are six foot two, articulate, thoughtful black man. That's a problem,

1418
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: you know. And when I was going through my depression,

1419
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 2: Krit was the one that told me that I probably

1420
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: need to move out of my house.

1421
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 5: I probably would have still been in.

1422
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 2: That house depressed. He said, like, Bro, like it was

1423
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 2: a big house, Bro, like a big, beautiful house. And

1424
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: he was like, Bro, you don't know what spirits are

1425
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: in there, and it may be the house. And I

1426
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: think he was right because I went back to the

1427
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 2: house after I moved out of it.

1428
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 3: Bro.

1429
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 5: This house is clearly some people's dream house.

1430
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: Bro.

1431
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 5: It was in the North Georgia Mountains and it was

1432
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 5: on top of the mountain.

1433
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 2: Bro.

1434
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 5: And I've never seen this nowhere in the world. I've

1435
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 5: gone in the morning.

1436
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:32,559
Speaker 2: Right at about five thirty six o'clock when the sun

1437
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 2: hits the top of the mountains, the whole sky turns

1438
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 2: red dog like it's Mars or something. Such a beautiful house,

1439
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 2: and it's just spiritually wasn't right. And Krit was like, Bro,

1440
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 2: you gotta you may have to get out of that house.

1441
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 2: And I moved out of that house because of Crit

1442
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 2: and between you know, some of the stuff Krit said,

1443
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 2: my mentor, and the stories I've told about method man Bro.

1444
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 2: And I like to give a shout out to to

1445
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: styles p Let's I'd like to give a shout out

1446
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 2: to Jazzy Jeff. Jazzy Jeff brought me to his house, y'all.

1447
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: I told him to his face, I ain't doing no

1448
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: fucking music. I ain't no artist, no mong fucking actor.

1449
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 2: I ain't doing no verses, I ain't doing no beats.

1450
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 2: And he just looked at me and like, yeah. I

1451
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,520
Speaker 2: ended up doing two verses the beat.

1452
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 5: But jazz he told me something. I was so dope.

1453
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 2: He said, banner music hasn't done anything, but bless you.

1454
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,599
Speaker 2: Now the business of music.

1455
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 3: Well, let me ask you this before because I know

1456
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 3: you gotta go. But my last question is Sinners. You

1457
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 3: talked about Sinners. One of the underlying themes in that,

1458
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 3: to me at least, was that the music attracted the devil,

1459
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 3: and that's why his father didn't want him to play music.

1460
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 3: Do you think that the music, especially the music that

1461
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 3: we're listening to now, is a gateway to negativity devil activity,

1462
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: or like you think that is a light for that.

1463
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: But no, but bro, it wasn't. But see, that's the

1464
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: thing about it. It wasn't the type of music he

1465
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 2: was doing. Because if you look at the dance when

1466
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 2: everybody came together, it was all types of music. It

1467
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: wasn't just rap music it was it was the Native

1468
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 2: American music. It was all of these different types of music.

1469
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,799
Speaker 2: So what it is is that, first of all, people

1470
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:16,720
Speaker 2: forget if you think if the devil existed in the

1471
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:21,519
Speaker 2: way that they say that it did, what was the devil? No,

1472
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 2: in general, angel what music of music exactly?

1473
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 3: So that's some people say that.

1474
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: So not that music, it's music in general and the

1475
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: fact that in actuality, Bro, I don't like saying this

1476
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 2: a lot.

1477
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 5: But I will only because you asked me.

1478
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 4: Bro.

1479
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 2: If you go back and research music. Music was never

1480
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 2: meant for public consumption. Music was meant for spiritual, for communication,

1481
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 2: doing times of war, it was it was spiritual. And

1482
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 2: I have a friend who actually is a chiropractor and

1483
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: he can manipulate your bones by using certain frequencies. So

1484
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 2: what we got to understand, Bro, we don't even know

1485
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,759
Speaker 2: because we don't study, Bro, the frequencies that we're dealing

1486
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 2: with a lot of times, Bro, and what it actually

1487
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 2: does to the human body.

1488
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 3: Right.

1489
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 2: So I think when it came to centers, Bro, it

1490
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: wasn't the type of music that we do because honestly,

1491
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 2: we are at war and this is war music. The

1492
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,719
Speaker 2: problem that I had with music is music was supposed

1493
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 2: to to represent the time that we're in. Like during

1494
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 2: the time when Bad Boy and Stuff was out, we

1495
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: were the first generation in America in recent times that

1496
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 2: had disposable money. We was their first generation. Our parents

1497
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: got the jobs, but they really hadn't got the residual

1498
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 2: effects of that brand yet so bad Boy at the

1499
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 2: time was necessary NWA saying fuck the police. Nobody else

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01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 2: had ever done that. We needed that at the time.

1501
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 5: But when you see it being commercialized and it being

1502
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 5: used by the same system that.

1503
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 2: It was meant to, right, and it became and it

1504
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 2: was mechanized, I honestly think, and I don't say this much,

1505
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 2: that music is actually from the right hand of the government. Now, Bro,

1506
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 2: if you really think about it, bro, like, if you

1507
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: really look at it from because I know that you

1508
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: are men of numbers, right, bro, Niggas in bitches well,

1509
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 2: let's say, niggas in bitches are probably no just as important.

1510
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: It's important, Seriously, Niggas and bitches are only about at

1511
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,719
Speaker 2: the most get in the twenty percent of our culture.

1512
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: Let's think about it seriously, right, But we talk about

1513
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 2: that form of people ninety percent of the time. Yeah, right,

1514
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 2: you understand what I'm saying. So the problem isn't that

1515
01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: is the pact. It's the fact that it's been is

1516
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 2: being weaponized. And then the fact that people see that

1517
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: we can make money off off of the weaponization of

1518
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: our music, They're gonna go get the bread, bro, That's

1519
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 2: what I saw. So when I saw appreciable.

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01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: This is a specific scene when they're like, just give

1521
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 1: us him and we'll leave everybody else. Because he had

1522
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,799
Speaker 1: the purest form of music, even though it was perceived

1523
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: as secular to his parents. It was the purest form,

1524
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: which is one second and.

1525
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 2: Jordan, Just so you know, they're not worried about me

1526
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: saying niggas and bitches. They worried about me saying cracker,

1527
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 2: So you ain't got to worry about it. Who's that, No,

1528
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 2: just people in general. He ain't not worried about this,

1529
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 2: So don't worry about when I said niggas and bitches. Yeah,

1530
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 2: which is why at the end that scene where Michael B.

1531
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: Jordan's in the kouji, right, and it was very intentional

1532
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 2: how he was styled. It was like, oh, they've got that,

1533
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 2: they've got it. They took it from us, right because

1534
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,720
Speaker 2: he's I left him alone. He's still pure, but he's

1535
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 2: been dumb down now to now he's just doing nightclubs, right,

1536
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 2: which isn't the most popular form. But the guy win

1537
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: the koochie. Oh wait, it's in hip hop. Well watch

1538
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 2: this the way you where I didn't see that, but

1539
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 2: I did see what do you call the things in

1540
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 2: the movies where you give away the secrets, what do

1541
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 2: you call those? Come on, bro, help me the little

1542
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 2: special things that said movies that's hidden the east, Yeah,

1543
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: the little easter b They said something that was so

1544
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 2: dope that I didn't realize, which makes your theory probably right.

1545
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 2: They said, if you look in the mirror on that scene,

1546
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: his reflection was gone too.

1547
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 3: Who's the reflection preacher boy?

1548
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: Because you remember it was him the white girl and

1549
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 2: preaching boy and they were sitting in front of the

1550
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 2: big long mirror in front of the bar, right if

1551
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 2: you look, everybody's But what they say happened was that

1552
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:55,440
Speaker 2: you remember the scene after that we're giving away the movie.

1553
01:22:55,200 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: But but but you remember when he was in the church.

1554
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 2: You saw that if you remember, he looked up and

1555
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 2: they were saying that it was a spirit, that it

1556
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 2: was a spirit in the sky, and that was when

1557
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 2: he gave his spirit away. But what I'm saying is

1558
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: is that either way, what I'll tell you is that

1559
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 2: that same music that we're talking about can be what

1560
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 2: leads us to revolution, be helpful, it can be what

1561
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: leads somebody to God. That's all that they were saying.

1562
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 2: They want you, so we can use your music for

1563
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 2: what we want to use it for, and so it's

1564
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: powerful within itself. It's the same way that and I'm

1565
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 2: glad that we can end it like this. I believe

1566
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 2: it's the same thing with money. Money ain't ain't is

1567
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 2: it negative. It's the spirit and what you put into

1568
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,800
Speaker 2: it and how you get it. It's a frequency, it's

1569
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:51,559
Speaker 2: a currency, you know, and you have to earn your.

1570
01:23:51,520 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 3: Leisure and gentlemen. Another legendary episode David, Oh hey, you

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01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 3: got from Rock and West for see next week.

1572
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1574
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1575
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1580
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Speaker 7: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported.

1583
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1585
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