Speaker 1: So we went through the Bickram yoga scam. Like everybody
Speaker 1: was obsessed with Bickram yoga and then it was cult
Speaker 1: like and everybody was totally obsessed, and so then of course,
Speaker 1: you know, there was scandal. And I think, like when
Speaker 1: anythink gets too crazy and too big, there's a scandal coming.
Speaker 1: And I think about meditation, and I think it was
Speaker 1: like I want to say, it was Tom Hanks and
Speaker 1: like Jerry sein Fell got him into meditation, and I
Speaker 1: know Howard Stern is really into meditation, and a lot
Speaker 1: of famous people are into TM and they go to
Speaker 1: the same person. And I remember I was gonna go
Speaker 1: and Carol and I were going to put him on
Speaker 1: the Housewives. If it's the same person, it's like the
Speaker 1: famous one and you have to commit to a certain amount.
Speaker 1: And if you're a normal person, I think, if to
Speaker 1: pay to get a mantra, I'm totally paraphrasing because Paul
Speaker 1: told me about paying to get the mantra. I remember
Speaker 1: talking to Carol about this thing. I've seen an interviews
Speaker 1: celebrities talking about other famous people telling them to meditate.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have to pay to get a mantra?
Speaker 1: Like you have to pay to just have something to
Speaker 1: say over and over. And now it's like an elitist
Speaker 1: sport of really famous people going to famous gurus and meditation,
Speaker 1: and that feels kind of the opposite of meditation. It's
Speaker 1: like yoga people are just in on top of each
Speaker 1: other because everybody is the same and gets to practice
Speaker 1: and there's no although yoga has a bunch of bullshit
Speaker 1: and elitist stuff too, don't get me wrong, people. That's
Speaker 1: where like people are competitive about it and feel like
Speaker 1: they're doing it wrong, which is the opposite of yoga.
Speaker 1: But it feels like all that's the opposite of meditation too.
Speaker 1: Not the famous people aren't allowed to meditate, but it's
Speaker 1: just they only go to the same famous meditation person,
Speaker 1: which becomes super douchy to me, like none of them
Speaker 1: and then one of them is going to now go
Speaker 1: to just like a regular person meditator and make that
Speaker 1: person famous, and it just feels like something that shouldn't
Speaker 1: be elitist. And they have meditation places and it was
Speaker 1: great because the pandemic made people sit down and open
Speaker 1: up apps and just meditate. But I did go to
Speaker 1: this spa and meditate and get it. I think I
Speaker 1: was getting the massage or healing thing and the guy said,
Speaker 1: do you meditate it? I said, yeah, I do it
Speaker 1: on the car app Oh yeah, Like they're kind of,
Speaker 1: what's everything that's wrong with it? Like really, because I
Speaker 1: know there's another one called headspace, and who cares if
Speaker 1: it's what it's called. Who cares. It's just like stopping
Speaker 1: listening to whatever they're saying. You can't even hear what
Speaker 1: they're saying. You fall asleep so soon, or you zone out,
Speaker 1: or you think about your grocery list, but it's just
Speaker 1: it's you're sitting crisscross apple sauce. You're pretending you're spiritual,
Speaker 1: you're just closing your eyes or opening it all. So
Speaker 1: they're very serious. They don't want you to lay down.
Speaker 1: You gotta sit up. I want to lay do. I
Speaker 1: want to like non, I want to try to do
Speaker 1: something that I never ever do, and the way that
Speaker 1: I want to do it, like you all of a
Speaker 1: sudden start beating yourself up. Paul was talking about it.
Speaker 1: He has an app that says like, oh, you've now
Speaker 1: meditated nine ninety four days in a row. Then he
Speaker 1: feels like if he broke he broke his like meditation diet,
Speaker 1: which is exactly the opposite, and some of those sleep
Speaker 1: apps are the same. For me, I like it because
Speaker 1: I just want to know what's going on, but it
Speaker 1: can be obsessive. You wake up and you thought you
Speaker 1: slept really well and then it tells you your score
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, I'm such a fucking failure. I
Speaker 1: can't even succeed at sleep, which is doing nothing, but
Speaker 1: meditation is no different. Like now they're counting and telling
Speaker 1: how many days in a row you did it, Like
Speaker 1: it's the fucking iron Man. Might as well do P
Speaker 1: ninety x CrossFit CrossFit meditation. Let's let's make it as
Speaker 1: stressful as we possibly can. So stupid. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: meditate in the bullshit bazooka, you know, fortune cookie manner,
Speaker 1: and it helps me and I like it. I'll put
Speaker 1: on a sleep story for my daughter and I or
Speaker 1: I'll just lay on. I have a map, it's like
Speaker 1: an infrared matt it's amazing, and I lay it down.
Speaker 1: I put a fuzzy mask on it and it's hot,
Speaker 1: and I'll just sometimes do nothing. Or I'll just put
Speaker 1: on like a like a meditation story in it. I'll
Speaker 1: be like about nothing, like I'd be like, ah, it's
Speaker 1: about their voices. It's not really about what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: Because the guy Jay Shetty, he's like, I, I'm Ja Shetty,
Speaker 1: and I like sleep and I haven't always been good
Speaker 1: at sleep, and I'm already fucking like drooling. And then
Speaker 1: there are some people that are annoying, like you need
Speaker 1: to get off this app. There are some people that
Speaker 1: you literally can't sleep because they're annoying, and you feel
Speaker 1: bad because they're supposed to be experts. They're experts that
Speaker 1: you're sleeping. They're on a sleep app. Nope, get out.
Speaker 1: Sometimes on these apps they've got celebrities. By the way,
Speaker 1: I've heard Matthew McConaughey tell a story about a train, like,
Speaker 1: what is he being paid? It's crazy. Now we have
Speaker 1: voiceover sounds like a Toyota commercial, but it's to help
Speaker 1: me get to sleep. They're branded. I turn off the
Speaker 1: people that I already know. I don't need Matthew McConaughey
Speaker 1: to be in my bullshit, faux bullshit faux spiritual meditation
Speaker 1: practice because then I realize I'm really a fucking fraud
Speaker 1: and I might as well go called Jerry Seinfeld and
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks and Howard Stern and meditate with their person,
Speaker 1: and Maria Striver meditates twenty four hours a day. I
Speaker 1: don't think she's awake anymore while you are awake when
Speaker 1: you're meditating. But I think she's always meditating. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about it because it makes me
Speaker 1: feel guilty. But I'm sure she goes to a famous meditator.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do they let Maria maninos Is in
Speaker 1: his famous as Jerry Seinfeld. Maybe they don't let her in.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's allowed to go to, like, you know, a famous,
Speaker 1: famous person, but not you know, at the level of
Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, like not half a billionaire meditation person. So
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I'm gonna call someone at
Speaker 1: my level. I'm gonna call it snooky, like wh who
Speaker 1: do you meditate with? I I need that level. So
Speaker 1: my girls, my producers are telling me about Jay Shetty
Speaker 1: like I didn't even know anyone knew who he was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was. He just is a
Speaker 1: guy on there that I like his voice. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: You guys know, well, now I better do my meditation
Speaker 1: more perfectly. I just thought he was a ramdo and
Speaker 1: he has like a yeah, he's like, I love sleep
Speaker 1: and I haven't always been good at sleep. It took
Speaker 1: me a while, but now I realize it's a practice
Speaker 1: and you don't. And he's great. Jay Shatty's great. I
Speaker 1: didn't know he was a famous person. He's he's a
Speaker 1: famous person, but he's not Matthew McConaughey. So I, Jay Shanty,
Speaker 1: if you're out there, I had no idea who you were.
Speaker 1: But you put me his fucking sleep. So I hope
Speaker 1: your podcast doesn't do that, because you put me to
Speaker 1: fucking sleep. I thought these are like just like they're fame,
Speaker 1: they're they're locally famous. Like what are you famous at? Oh?
Speaker 1: I'm it's like TikTok famous, I'm meditation app famous, daly
Speaker 1: Ja here is the Daily j Okay. He's he's a
Speaker 1: star billing on the com app. So I can't imagine
Speaker 1: what they're fucking paying him, But good for him, all right,
Speaker 1: hold on, who are the sleep people? I only do
Speaker 1: the sleep people. I don't care if it's mid day.
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody waking me up and I will
Speaker 1: lay down. Fuck you. I don't need you to tell me,
Speaker 1: and he'd be sitting up. I'll do whatever I want. Boy,
Speaker 1: I'm Chris okayacay. Tonight's meditation will help you calm your mind,
Speaker 1: and I'm like eating Coca bora licorice. I can't Chris Okake.
Speaker 1: Has anyone ever heard of him? You know who's famous
Speaker 1: on here? She's very, very, very meditation famous to me
Speaker 1: Tomorrow Levitt or Timer Levit. Okay, ready, listen to her voice.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to day five of the seventy Yes, Queen sleeping.
Speaker 1: It's just her like mallifluous, melodic, fluid voice. Excellent. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: those are my people. They're famous. I didn't know some
Speaker 1: of them were famous in the world.