1 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: So we went through the Bickram yoga scam. Like everybody 2 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: was obsessed with Bickram yoga and then it was cult 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: like and everybody was totally obsessed, and so then of course, 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, there was scandal. And I think, like when 5 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: anythink gets too crazy and too big, there's a scandal coming. 6 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: And I think about meditation, and I think it was 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: like I want to say, it was Tom Hanks and 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: like Jerry sein Fell got him into meditation, and I 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: know Howard Stern is really into meditation, and a lot 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: of famous people are into TM and they go to 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: the same person. And I remember I was gonna go 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: and Carol and I were going to put him on 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: the Housewives. If it's the same person, it's like the 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: famous one and you have to commit to a certain amount. 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: And if you're a normal person, I think, if to 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: pay to get a mantra, I'm totally paraphrasing because Paul 17 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: told me about paying to get the mantra. I remember 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: talking to Carol about this thing. I've seen an interviews 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: celebrities talking about other famous people telling them to meditate. 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have to pay to get a mantra? 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: Like you have to pay to just have something to 22 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: say over and over. And now it's like an elitist 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: sport of really famous people going to famous gurus and meditation, 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: and that feels kind of the opposite of meditation. It's 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: like yoga people are just in on top of each 26 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: other because everybody is the same and gets to practice 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: and there's no although yoga has a bunch of bullshit 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: and elitist stuff too, don't get me wrong, people. That's 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: where like people are competitive about it and feel like 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: they're doing it wrong, which is the opposite of yoga. 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: But it feels like all that's the opposite of meditation too. 32 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Not the famous people aren't allowed to meditate, but it's 33 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,279 Speaker 1: just they only go to the same famous meditation person, 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: which becomes super douchy to me, like none of them 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: and then one of them is going to now go 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: to just like a regular person meditator and make that 37 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: person famous, and it just feels like something that shouldn't 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: be elitist. And they have meditation places and it was 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: great because the pandemic made people sit down and open 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: up apps and just meditate. But I did go to 41 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: this spa and meditate and get it. I think I 42 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: was getting the massage or healing thing and the guy said, 43 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: do you meditate it? I said, yeah, I do it 44 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: on the car app Oh yeah, Like they're kind of, 45 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: what's everything that's wrong with it? Like really, because I 46 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: know there's another one called headspace, and who cares if 47 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: it's what it's called. Who cares. It's just like stopping 48 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: listening to whatever they're saying. You can't even hear what 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: they're saying. You fall asleep so soon, or you zone out, 50 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: or you think about your grocery list, but it's just 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: it's you're sitting crisscross apple sauce. You're pretending you're spiritual, 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: you're just closing your eyes or opening it all. So 53 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: they're very serious. They don't want you to lay down. 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: You gotta sit up. I want to lay do. I 55 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: want to like non, I want to try to do 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: something that I never ever do, and the way that 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: I want to do it, like you all of a 58 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: sudden start beating yourself up. Paul was talking about it. 59 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: He has an app that says like, oh, you've now 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: meditated nine ninety four days in a row. Then he 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: feels like if he broke he broke his like meditation diet, 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: which is exactly the opposite, and some of those sleep 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: apps are the same. For me, I like it because 64 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: I just want to know what's going on, but it 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: can be obsessive. You wake up and you thought you 66 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: slept really well and then it tells you your score 67 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, I'm such a fucking failure. I 68 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: can't even succeed at sleep, which is doing nothing, but 69 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: meditation is no different. Like now they're counting and telling 70 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: how many days in a row you did it, Like 71 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: it's the fucking iron Man. Might as well do P 72 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: ninety x CrossFit CrossFit meditation. Let's let's make it as 73 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: stressful as we possibly can. So stupid. So yeah, I 74 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: meditate in the bullshit bazooka, you know, fortune cookie manner, 75 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: and it helps me and I like it. I'll put 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: on a sleep story for my daughter and I or 77 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: I'll just lay on. I have a map, it's like 78 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: an infrared matt it's amazing, and I lay it down. 79 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I put a fuzzy mask on it and it's hot, 80 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: and I'll just sometimes do nothing. Or I'll just put 81 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: on like a like a meditation story in it. I'll 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: be like about nothing, like I'd be like, ah, it's 83 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: about their voices. It's not really about what they're talking about. 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: Because the guy Jay Shetty, he's like, I, I'm Ja Shetty, 85 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: and I like sleep and I haven't always been good 86 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: at sleep, and I'm already fucking like drooling. And then 87 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: there are some people that are annoying, like you need 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: to get off this app. There are some people that 89 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: you literally can't sleep because they're annoying, and you feel 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: bad because they're supposed to be experts. They're experts that 91 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: you're sleeping. They're on a sleep app. Nope, get out. 92 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes on these apps they've got celebrities. By the way, 93 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: I've heard Matthew McConaughey tell a story about a train, like, 94 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: what is he being paid? It's crazy. Now we have 95 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: voiceover sounds like a Toyota commercial, but it's to help 96 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: me get to sleep. They're branded. I turn off the 97 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: people that I already know. I don't need Matthew McConaughey 98 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: to be in my bullshit, faux bullshit faux spiritual meditation 99 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: practice because then I realize I'm really a fucking fraud 100 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: and I might as well go called Jerry Seinfeld and 101 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks and Howard Stern and meditate with their person, 102 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: and Maria Striver meditates twenty four hours a day. I 103 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: don't think she's awake anymore while you are awake when 104 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: you're meditating. But I think she's always meditating. And I 105 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: don't want to hear about it because it makes me 106 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: feel guilty. But I'm sure she goes to a famous meditator. 107 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Do they let Maria maninos Is in 108 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: his famous as Jerry Seinfeld. Maybe they don't let her in. 109 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: Maybe she's allowed to go to, like, you know, a famous, 110 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: famous person, but not you know, at the level of 111 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Tom Hanks, like not half a billionaire meditation person. So 112 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I'm gonna call someone at 113 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: my level. I'm gonna call it snooky, like wh who 114 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: do you meditate with? I I need that level. So 115 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: my girls, my producers are telling me about Jay Shetty 116 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: like I didn't even know anyone knew who he was. 117 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was. He just is a 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 1: guy on there that I like his voice. That's so funny. 119 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: You guys know, well, now I better do my meditation 120 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: more perfectly. I just thought he was a ramdo and 121 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: he has like a yeah, he's like, I love sleep 122 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: and I haven't always been good at sleep. It took 123 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: me a while, but now I realize it's a practice 124 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: and you don't. And he's great. Jay Shatty's great. I 125 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: didn't know he was a famous person. He's he's a 126 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: famous person, but he's not Matthew McConaughey. So I, Jay Shanty, 127 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: if you're out there, I had no idea who you were. 128 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: But you put me his fucking sleep. So I hope 129 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: your podcast doesn't do that, because you put me to 130 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: fucking sleep. I thought these are like just like they're fame, 131 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: they're they're locally famous. Like what are you famous at? Oh? 132 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm it's like TikTok famous, I'm meditation app famous, daly 133 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: Ja here is the Daily j Okay. He's he's a 134 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: star billing on the com app. So I can't imagine 135 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: what they're fucking paying him, But good for him, all right, 136 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: hold on, who are the sleep people? I only do 137 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: the sleep people. I don't care if it's mid day. 138 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: I don't want anybody waking me up and I will 139 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: lay down. Fuck you. I don't need you to tell me, 140 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: and he'd be sitting up. I'll do whatever I want. Boy, 141 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: I'm Chris okayacay. Tonight's meditation will help you calm your mind, 142 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: and I'm like eating Coca bora licorice. I can't Chris Okake. 143 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Has anyone ever heard of him? You know who's famous 144 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: on here? She's very, very, very meditation famous to me 145 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Tomorrow Levitt or Timer Levit. Okay, ready, listen to her voice. 146 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Welcome back to day five of the seventy Yes, Queen sleeping. 147 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: It's just her like mallifluous, melodic, fluid voice. Excellent. Okay, Well, 148 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: those are my people. They're famous. I didn't know some 149 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: of them were famous in the world.