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Speaker 1: Advice Shore, Lower, lower and lower, Low and Low. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Naughty but Nice Show. I'm your host, Rob Shooter.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, which means our friend Donny Meacham from

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Speaker 1: Okay Magazine dot com is joining us. Donnie, are you there?

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Speaker 1: I am here, happy to be here, happy talk Lower,

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Speaker 1: Lower Low. So last night I was on Extra TV.

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Speaker 1: I know it was really lovely to do it. I

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Speaker 1: did it by zoom, Donnie. I was marvelous for people

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Speaker 1: that are listening. Thank you for people that are listening

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Speaker 1: to the first time. Hey, where have you been? And

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Speaker 1: no welcome, Welcome, Welcome. We're real life gossip columnists, so

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Speaker 1: I've been in the gossip world for a very long time.

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Speaker 1: My friend Donnie too is now at Okay Magazine dot com.

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Speaker 1: So we bring you exclusives as many as we can,

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Speaker 1: or jump into the stories you're hearing, giving you some background.

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Speaker 1: And because of that, we get phone calls all the

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Speaker 1: time from different TV shows asking us to go on.

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Speaker 1: So I think yesterday somebody over at Extra, somebody with

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Speaker 1: a very good taste Extra was listening to our show, Donnie,

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Speaker 1: I know, and texting me saying, will you come on

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Speaker 1: and talk about Kim Kardashian, I said absolutely, And there

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Speaker 1: I was Donnie, what time is it? My friend? It

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Speaker 1: is t we say tea time. This is we've got.

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Speaker 1: We've geting at a lot of new people, so I know,

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Speaker 1: I know the original people stand by just for a second.

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Speaker 1: I have not forgot you. We love you, we love you.

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Speaker 1: But for the new people, I love a little bit

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Speaker 1: of audience participation. Who doesn't So tea time is my

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Speaker 1: favorite thing to do because it gets us to the

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Speaker 1: moment where we spill the tea. But also too, I

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Speaker 1: love a good cup of tea, so it literally sort

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Speaker 1: of merges together my two favorite things. Let's jump right

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Speaker 1: in an exclusive at the top, Tyra Banks had a

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Speaker 1: melt down backstage at Dancing with the Stars. So on

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Speaker 1: Monday there was a mishap and to two people that

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Speaker 1: should be in the bottom up for elimination were not

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Speaker 1: the right two people live on TV, Tyra called out

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Speaker 1: the wrong names. It got very confusing because they were live.

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Speaker 1: She had to add lib. It was a little awkward,

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Speaker 1: although I think she did a pretty much a good job.

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Speaker 1: Fans that were upset on social media. Tyra went on

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Speaker 1: to blame the control room and She also blamed her

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Speaker 1: cue cards for the little bit of that upset that mishap. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: she apologized once again, saying it was live TV. She

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Speaker 1: used that a little bit as an excuse. I don't

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Speaker 1: mind this stuff. I think it makes it more exciting. However, Tyra,

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Speaker 1: she was not laughing, sources tell me at the Stow

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Speaker 1: show when she got backstage, she was furious, very angry.

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Speaker 1: She wasn't mean and nasty, she wasn't throwing things. But

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Speaker 1: executive producer. This is her show. It is embarrassing. It

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Speaker 1: happened on her watch. Let's be honest. She's a new host.

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Speaker 1: This has never happened before. So now a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are saying, maybe it's Tyra that should get eliminated.

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Speaker 1: Where are you on this done? So, I get it

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Speaker 1: is embarrassing, it is a little awkward, But as someone

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Speaker 1: gonna let Tyra know right now, you're not making any

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Speaker 1: friends in the control room by blaming them. Yes, producers

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Speaker 1: make mistakes. I've made mistakes, but we've also made you

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Speaker 1: It's not a good look for her. You're right, My

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Speaker 1: sources backstage say exactly that she's not making any friends.

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Speaker 1: Blaming them for this is so silly. Ultimately, now that

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Speaker 1: they're looking at the process of how the votes are

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Speaker 1: tabulated to make sure this never happens again, once again,

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Speaker 1: she's embarrassed. It never happened on tom Bergier runs watch

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Speaker 1: and she knows. We're saying that Tyra works really hard.

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Speaker 1: I used to work for Tyra, so I know her

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Speaker 1: this is all all embarrassing. Sources say back to her stage,

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about this? Do you blame Tyra?

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Speaker 1: That's our pole question of the day. Sad a meltdown

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Speaker 1: backstage after the show, not happy. She is not happy

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Speaker 1: about this. Do you blame her? Yes or no? Go

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Speaker 1: and vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rubber.

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Speaker 1: On Facebook page Naughty Gossip. You could leave a comment

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Speaker 1: there and be sure to check back tomorrow. I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to hear the results. Donnie. Part of me feels

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Speaker 1: if something goes wrong and you're the boss, you have

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Speaker 1: You're right, that's the problem. What are you working on?

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Speaker 1: My friend? Well, fans are shocked earlier this year when

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Speaker 1: fan favorite Drinda Medley it was announced you would be

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Speaker 1: confirming she was fired. Get this fired from her Housewolves

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Speaker 1: because Bethanny knows everything her and Andy you're Bessie. So

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Speaker 1: Bethy probably texted her and was like, girl, I know

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Speaker 1: because Drinda acknowledged that this wasn't a great season for her,

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Speaker 1: but she was really hoping to be able to redeem

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Speaker 1: she's not gonna be able to do that right right now.

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Speaker 1: The chance of them coming back and redeeming yourself is

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Speaker 1: awfully powerful, and that has been taken away from her.

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Speaker 1: Anybody listens to this show and you do so, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. They already know this, like we I

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Speaker 1: Derinda left the show. When it was announced they were parting,

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Speaker 1: Waves Brather put out a statement saying it was a

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Speaker 1: mutual decision. All my a. She said, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: very few people, very few are actually leave that job.

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Speaker 1: It's intoxicating. The money is great, you become famous. Even

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Speaker 1: the housewives that I really like, someone like Countess Luanne,

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Speaker 1: hard thing is, it's so tricky, even in your personal

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Speaker 1: So Billy Bush's talking out about getting fired from the

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Speaker 1: He had yet not hadn't been discovered how bad he was,

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Speaker 1: giggling about groping women. It was not a good moment

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Speaker 1: for anybody. Billy thought that he had Matt Lowers support

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Speaker 1: That was his dream job. He wanted the Today Show.

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Speaker 1: He finally got the third hour. It was doing okay.

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Speaker 1: didn't fight for me, and it was deeply, deeply hurtful. Later,

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Speaker 1: that he did fight for him. In private, Billy said

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Speaker 1: Do you expect your friends, Donny to fight for you

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Speaker 1: publicly when you mess up? I do, to an extent.

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Speaker 1: you can't publicly defend me. As a man, I would

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Speaker 1: I think as a friend you can sit him aside

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Speaker 1: I'd call you up right away and I'd say, you're

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna last, and you shouldn't last. What you

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Speaker 1: And then down the road we can work together and

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Speaker 1: Have you ever thought, Donnie, someone's a better friend than

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Speaker 1: they think they are. Yeah. I think sadly enough, that

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Speaker 1: it happens a lot in work situations is you have

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Speaker 1: hear from those people again. You're like, wow, I guess

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Speaker 1: we weren't as good friends. I know, I know I

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Speaker 1: be friends with everybody, and often they don't want to

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Speaker 1: We both know, Donny, I wanted to be Taylor's friend,

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Speaker 1: no business thinking that, and ultimately it's you who've got

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Speaker 1: the problem, not them. What's going on with Queen Elizabeth?

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Speaker 1: I love this story. It just makes me how with laughter.

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Speaker 1: It's so silly. Well, turns out the queen is actually

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