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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody, John Middlecott Three and Out

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Speaker 1: Podcast on a Monday President's Day. Hopefully everyone's doing good.

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Speaker 1: You're probably listening to this on Tuesday. It felt a

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Speaker 1: little weird not doing one on Sunday, but there wasn't

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Speaker 1: any football. There was no football, and I gotta be honest,

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Speaker 1: like I was missing something in my life because I

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Speaker 1: was because basically, for six straight months, every single Sunday

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Speaker 1: So I took the day off and it felt kind

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Speaker 1: just watched TV. I binged, binge would be strong, watch

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Speaker 1: some different shows, nothing really great. I need something. If

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Speaker 1: any of these streaming services, I only have seventy five

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Speaker 1: of them. Hit me up in my d M s,

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Speaker 1: like at John Middlecoff is my Instagram because we do

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Speaker 1: the Middlecoff mail bag. But I need something to watch.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is there's the off season. I obviously

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Speaker 1: watched a lot of golf. We'll have a big Go

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Speaker 1: Low pod coming up uh for Wednesday because a lot

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Speaker 1: that that kept me entertained this weekend. But I miss football.

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Speaker 1: I I really do. UM we'll hit up the Brian

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Speaker 1: some combine stuff, Roger Goodell gonna resign, some thoughts there,

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Speaker 1: going to coach the quarterbacks for Belichick. Some hit me

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Speaker 1: those d ms. Hopefully everyone had a good weekend, long weekend.

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Speaker 1: I think we've got a couple of long weekends now

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Speaker 1: coming up. Free agency isn't that far away. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a lot of quarterback movement something. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: get to the combine. Uh. Really, this combine is every

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Speaker 1: health administration, but he knew every single thing about the

427
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Speaker 1: business because he worked his way up. He worked his

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Speaker 1: way up from nothing and nobody in turn, all the

429
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Speaker 1: way up to eventually became CFO, and then when the

430
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Speaker 1: CEO job came, it was between him and a couple

431
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Speaker 1: of guys and he got the job. It was a

432
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Speaker 1: really big deal. So he knew every single element of

433
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Speaker 1: the business. So when he was in these big decisions,

434
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: which obviously health companies often are, he could understand every

435
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: single person in his company because he had held a

436
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: lot of those jobs beside being a doctor, but all

437
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: of his brothers were actual doctors, and I'm pretty sure

438
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: his dad was a doctor too, so he's had a

439
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: unique perspective. So sometimes when you hear about the suits,

440
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: a lot of times people resent the guy at the

441
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,120
Speaker 1: top if he hasn't done the gejority of the jobs

442
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: that he's controlling. And sometimes when you see the NFL,

443
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 1: like a huge beef that NFL people have with the

444
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 1: league office is there aren't many people in the League

445
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: office that have ever been a GM, that have ever

446
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: been a scout, that have ever been a coach, Yet

447
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 1: those people are in charge of everything that you're acting on.

448
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: There are a couple players like Troy Vincent, but now

449
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: even he's twenty years removed, but they don't have any

450
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: former g ms and they don't have any former coaches.

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00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: It's why you know it's a big deal. When John

452
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: Madden died, Roger Goodell used to get him involved to

453
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: like had some committees because he wanted some of these

454
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Speaker 1: coaches on these committees. But the reality is their job

455
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: in the league office will getting to Roger Goodell in

456
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: a second, is all about money, and it's all when

457
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Speaker 1: really you're talking money, you're talking c y A covering

458
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Speaker 1: your ass so you don't ever lose money. That term

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00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: gets used a lot c y A. Well, I think

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00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: the number one thing for c y A and business

461
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: is to cover your ass so you do not get suited.

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00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 1: Here's what's clear is the combines going to a bubble.

463
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: The NFL does not give a ship about COVID, about

464
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 1: uh the oh macron about vaccines anymore. They do not care.

465
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: They stop testing in the playoffs. They can't even pretend

466
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Speaker 1: to care testing went Away knows in the NBA no

467
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: more testing. None of these leaks care, but they obviously

468
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: want to see y A cover themselves in certain areas

469
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 1: where they feel they're not covered. Well, they are on

470
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: the same page as the Players Union, so when they

471
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Speaker 1: stop testing, the players Union obviously gave them the thumbs up. Well,

472
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: there is no players union for the players that aren't

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Speaker 1: in the NFL yet, So I think the NFL they

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Speaker 1: ain't worried about some o macron outbreaking indie because they

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Speaker 1: have forced all these players to go into a bubble,

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Speaker 1: which to me is moronic, stupid, It makes no sense.

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Speaker 1: I would understand if you told me operate completely as

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Speaker 1: normal as you did two thousand nineteen and before, and

479
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: all you have to do is when you show up,

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Speaker 1: you get one of those tests in your nose and

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00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: uh if you're If you're negative, move on. If you're positive,

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Speaker 1: then I don't know. I wouldn't even know what to do.

483
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: That's above my pay grade. You send them home, you

484
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: know it's not ideal, make a mask up, walk around.

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00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, but putting them in a bubble. At

486
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Speaker 1: this point, I live in California. We've literally dropped everything.

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00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 1: It's February in California. By far, there's been the strictest

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Speaker 1: state of any in America. I know for a fact, Indy,

489
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 1: they don't care. So the league doing this to me

490
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: is very, very out of touch. But it also makes

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00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: sense because the league truly doesn't care. Roger Goodell has

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00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: no clue, truly what happens in the combine. Besides, like,

493
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: there's some workouts on the field, there's some interviews, some

494
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,360
Speaker 1: medical He couldn't walk you through a day by day

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00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: breakdown of what an assistant general manager does or what

496
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. He has no clue, and in fairness,

497
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't really care about that. But it's a huge

498
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: reason this disconnect between the league and a lot of

499
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: people that run teams because they go, this guy doesn't

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00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: understand what we're doing. Now, it's clear you don't need

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Speaker 1: to be a former g m R, former head coach

502
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: to be a good commissioner. Roger Goodell is a fantastic commissioner.

503
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: He is renegotiating his deal right now. You could argue,

504
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what has happened under his watch has been

505
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: complete and utter domination. The three biggest sports in America

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Speaker 1: one two of them are NFL related ones, the NFL,

507
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Speaker 1: the seconds college football, and the third is the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft and number one. The NFL is in a completely

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Speaker 1: different stratosphere than college football, which is way bigger than

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Speaker 1: baseball and basketball. And I got news for you. The

511
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Speaker 1: PGA Tour two weeks ago, same number as Golden State

512
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Speaker 1: Warriors against the l A Lakers, the NBA's two biggest brands,

513
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: so waste management, same number as the NBA. So his

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Speaker 1: golf just big as the NBA. That's their two biggest brands.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night. Well, Adam Silver. If you look at Twitter,

516
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: every single person in the media loves Adam Silver. He's

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Speaker 1: super nice. I think he has been his historically terrible.

518
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: On his watch, the NBA has precipitously falling off a

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00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: cliff in terms of interest. It's not even close because

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00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: you know why, David Stern when he was the NBA commissioner,

521
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: they dominated. But you know what, you didn't like him

522
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: the media, you know it doesn't like Roger Goodell. The media.

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00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: You know why, because let's face, what does he stand for? Revenue?

524
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: Big business? What does Adam Silver feel like he stands for? Politics?

525
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: Super nice guy, pro player. Of course the media is

526
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: gonna like that. That's like like represents them. He plays

527
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: right to them. Yet on his watch, the league is

528
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: falling apart. He got so much credit a week ago

529
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: for saying, like this New York mandate for Kyrie Irving

530
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: is so stupid. Yeah, no ship at him. We all

531
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: thought that six months ago. You just didn't have the

532
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: balls to say it. David Stern would have that bad

533
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: boy lifted. Roger probably would have too, and the media

534
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: would have freaked out, even though now all the media saying, God,

535
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: that's really stupid. Well, yeah, it's easy to say that now.

536
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Where was everyone six months ago? It never made any sense.

537
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: It also happened to me in the Bay Area with

538
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: Adrew Wiggetts. We have the same rule to cities in America.

539
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: Same rules make no sense. The outer town player can

540
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: play without a vaccine, yet the player on the home

541
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: team is not allowed to play. How could anyone say

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00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: that out loud, whether it's today or whether it's a

543
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: year ago, and that makes any sense? It can't. It doesn't.

544
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: But Adam Silver wouldn't say that because on Twitter that

545
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: wasn't cool to say six months ago. Yet it's cool

546
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: to say now, So we did it. When you governed

547
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: like that, You're in trouble. Roger Goodell doesn't govern like that.

548
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: Now he's not perfect, but he's gonna get a contract extension.

549
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: The media doesn't like him, he should be applauded because

550
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: on his watch, whether he deserves all the credit or not,

551
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: the league prints money. And the reason that some of

552
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: these coaches get mad at him. Listen, I understand, like

553
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick or guys can get mad at them, especially

554
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: this week for the Combine. But the reason Bill Belichick

555
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: makes twenty five million dollars a year and not three

556
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: is because the league is doing the numbers in which

557
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: they're doing with revenue. So when you look at the

558
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: Combine this year and this bubble, it is beyond stupid,

559
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: it's beyond moronic. And the reason is because the suits,

560
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: the NFL people don't understand what actually happens at the Combine.

561
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: They're just trying to cover their ass, even though when

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00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: you logically take a step back, you go, how does

563
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: this make any sense? You guys didn't test for the

564
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: last month of the NFL playoffs. You you you guys

565
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: admitted you actually didn't give a ship as you shouldn't have.

566
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: We've all moved on. Ye, You're gonna make these players,

567
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: these college players coming in they're just trying to get

568
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: medically checked and go to these interviews. And now they're

569
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: threatening to boycott the on the field workout, which is smart,

570
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: which is very smart because the one way the NFL

571
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: makes money off this is through the NFL network, and

572
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: that's a lot of their program is on the field. Now.

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00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: I think ultimately they'll maybe drop the bubble. We'll see.

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00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: I would imagine Roger's gonna start calling some GMS and

575
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: coaches this week to figure out what actually happens at

576
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: the combine because listen, for as great of a commissioner

577
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: he is, and I would give him a hug extension.

578
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: He makes fifty sixty million dollars a year's worth every

579
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: penny the amount of money he's made. These owners, the coaches,

580
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: and the players. Everyone in the NFL's printing money, every

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00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: single person position coaches. A wide receiver coach makes four

582
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: and fifty grand, right the offensive line coach makes a

583
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: million dollars. A random right guard makes four or five

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00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: million dollars. Everyone's print in cash. And it starts with

585
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: the growth of the NFL. But still sometimes the suits,

586
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 1: you know, because there's a huge disconnect, does things like

587
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: this weekend and creates problems. Okay, we had breaking news

588
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: after I recorded that. I recorded this middle of the

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00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: day on Monday, So before I sent this in too,

590
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: my people, Adam Schefter had a tweet that they've they've

591
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: gotten rid of the bubble and the bubble no longer exists.

592
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to delete my rant on the

593
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: suits because I believe everything I just said. But here's

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00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: also why I give Roger Goodell and the suits credit.

595
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: In the NFL, they will pivot at any moment's notice

596
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: that they will not hold onto things long boom, something's wrong,

597
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: they change it. This the bubble moronic changed. So while

598
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: they make some dumb decisions, which clearly they did with

599
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: the bubble, this is also why the NFL dominates. They

600
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: can hang a left the blink of an eye, they're

601
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: they're not beholden or holding onto anything, and it's it's

602
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: actually the NFL's greatest strength. Now, maybe they just, you know,

603
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: put this out there. I don't even know why. Maybe

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00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: it truly was just a c y a move. Maybe

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00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: they truly believed it, but ultimately they got rid of

606
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: it because, like I said, they did not actually care.

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00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: They do not care as you saw with the testing

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00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: going out the window that this was never about COVID.

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00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: This was about c Y a move which they got

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00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: feedback this is not gonna work, and ultimately the feedback

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00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: was going to impact the television product because the workouts

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00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: and now everyone will work out and we'll watch NFL

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00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: Network during the combine and watch guys run around in

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Speaker 1: not least, let me say that I think Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: is the best coach in the history of the league.

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00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: I think he's the best coach I've ever seen any sport.

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00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: I think he is elite, but I do think, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not an agist. I've said before I don't care

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Speaker 1: that McVeigh and Shanahan were young. They had unique experience.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. You know, when Bruce Arians and Mike

630
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: Zimmer were hired in their sixties, you know, it was

631
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: clear that they had been overlooked for years. We we

632
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: can get age wrong on both sides, but I do

633
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Speaker 1: think when you hit a certain age, even in coaching

634
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: and in coaching, you're lucky because you're around young people.

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Speaker 1: I think it naturally keeps you young. Like you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven years old. I haven't had kids yet.

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00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: I haven't met the person I'm gonna have kids with yet,

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00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a decent chance that my first

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Speaker 1: kid pops out at two years old. So you know,

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Speaker 1: potentially in my fifties, i'll have a teenager, which I'm

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00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: already okay with. They'll keep me young. I need that youth,

642
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: that that exuberance every day. Like you know, I'm hopefully

643
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: making enough money if I need to get a no

644
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: pair or whatever, because I like doing my own thing.

645
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be a you know, a Disneyland dad

646
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: or anything. But you know, I'm gonna spend a lot

647
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Speaker 1: of time in my fifties around children definitely probably teens,

648
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: where some of my friends, you know, by the time

649
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Speaker 1: their kids are teenagers, they will be in their early forties.

650
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Speaker 1: But I'm already thinking as a podcaster or someone the

651
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Speaker 1: talks were living. It's gonna give me a good perspectives

652
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: me up kind of like a coach, and I'm cool

653
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: with it. I'm actually fine with it. It'll keep me,

654
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: make me stay in shape, make me keep energy. And

655
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't have a choice, you know. Uh. But clearly

656
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: Belichick gets a lot of ship for you know, he's

657
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: seven years old, but he understands young people. Clearly. He

658
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: just won ten games in the NFL. But he does

659
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: kind of have a weak spot now is forever he

660
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: was able to kind of recreate the star coaches, like

661
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Speaker 1: he had his initial crew that he brought with him

662
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Speaker 1: to Cleveland. He had spotted all these guys, right, Nick Saban,

663
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Speaker 1: Pat Hill, Kirk Farren's, Eric Mangini, Scott Pioli. He had

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Speaker 1: a crew of guys that then he parlayed when he

665
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Speaker 1: first got to New England and added the day Balls,

666
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Speaker 1: the Josh McDaniels, added Flores Patrician and all these guys,

667
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Speaker 1: and he had reinforcements. So when his crew left Mangini

668
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: Weiss and who was at Romeo, he had guys waiting

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Speaker 1: in the wings. Josh McDaniels. Uh, obviously he reloaded with

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Speaker 1: Brian Bill O'Brien. Brian day Ball was an up and

671
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: calmer for him, then Brian Floores and Matt Patricia. He

672
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: had dudes because Sarrio when Paoli left, I think he's

673
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: run out, and I think it's a little bit of

674
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: a problem. And I also think it reflects the guys

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00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: that are coming back. Like ultimately, Joe Judge just had

676
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: to run back to Bill Belichick to go coach quarterbacks,

677
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: Like that's not ideal. Now, you could argue because I've

678
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: said before, Joe, you need to learn how to call offense.

679
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: And who's gonna let Joe Judge potentially call offense? Nobody

680
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: beside Bill Belichick. But did nobody else want Joe Judge? Like,

681
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: did Joe Judge not have any other options? Did he

682
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: have to go back to Bill Belichick? Like even Josh

683
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: McDaniels when he was ultimately fired by the Denver Broncos

684
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: went to St. Louis before he came back to New England.

685
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia was unhirable. Nobody would touch Matt Patricia with

686
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: a ten foot pole. They had to go back to

687
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, Like that's not ideal, even Josh, Like Josh

688
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: has really only had success with Bill. So it does

689
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: feel a little bit like Bill didn't have this next

690
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: crew of guys coming up, which is again somewhat understandable.

691
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: It would be hard to have dude after dude after

692
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: dude eventually, like the draft, you're gonna miss on some

693
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: young coaches, you're gonna miss on some young personnel people,

694
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Speaker 1: and people just leave you in the NFL, and some

695
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: people left Bill and never had to come back. Jason

696
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: Light never had to come back help. Even Bill O'Brien

697
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: like got ahead job and then he went to Nick

698
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: Saban did not have to come back because Sarrio. We'll see,

699
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: but you know, who knows some of these guys do

700
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Speaker 1: not have to go back. And you know it's when

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00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: I see that Joe Judge is going back. Joe Judge

702
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: has to go back because he's desperate. No one else

703
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: will touch him. Matt Patricia had to transition him to

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Speaker 1: be his next Ernie Adams, Like, I just wonder if Bill,

705
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: who still at this point is elite at his job.

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00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: That performance he had against Sean McDermott and Josh Allen

707
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: in Buffalo on Monday night football is one of the

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Speaker 1: highlights of the schematic x's nose NFL two thousand two season.

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Speaker 1: But I'm starting to wonder, like is he losing his

710
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: fastball with the people around him? And it's just as

711
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: simple as like, you know, Tom is not there anymore?

712
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Speaker 1: Are the best in the brightest want to hits their

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00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: wagon to someone that is just miserable? Sno's also seven

714
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Speaker 1: years old. What if I was year old and I

715
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: was some up and coming offensive guy and I just

716
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: wanted to break in the NFL what I call Kyle

717
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: Shanahana Sean McVeigh for I called Bill Bill Belichick. I

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00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: might maybe his John Carroll connection is just kind of

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Speaker 1: run out, because it does feel like the Belichick train

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Speaker 1: of of coaching and just quality people around him is

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Speaker 1: running out of steam. And that, more than Tom Brady

722
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Speaker 1: leaving him, might kind of be the end of the

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Speaker 1: Patriot rain. I think for the middlecoff mail bag, what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do, I'm gonna need some more mail bag questions.

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Speaker 1: So if you if you got a question at John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those? I'm gonna save those

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Speaker 1: probably for the weekend, uh, just because I only have

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Speaker 1: a couple and I don't really want to waste him yet,

729
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Speaker 1: because I was gonna use them for Fridays, which I've

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Speaker 1: now pushed to the weekend. So the weekend mail bag

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Speaker 1: comes out now, at least for the foreseeable, you know,

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. We'll see when things pick

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Speaker 1: back up. Uh, maybe we'll just go back to mail

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00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: bags on every show. It's much easier in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot more going on. I just got spread

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Speaker 1: out my content a little bit, so probably no mail

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00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: bag right here, but I didn't want to hit on

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Speaker 1: one thing. Daniel Jeremiah tweeted out today that basically this

739
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: draft at the top is not very good in the

740
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: sense of he has no clue who's gonna be picked

741
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: and went, and usually that's a tell tale sign. Like

742
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 1: last year, we knew a group of six seven guys

743
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: beside Trevor Lawrence in some order that we're gonna go

744
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: to to nine, right, and it was off a little bit.

745
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: But looking back, last year's draft was elite. And I

746
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: said today that if it was like nineteen seventies in

747
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Speaker 1: the NBA, Remember Larry Bird was on the Celtics while

748
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Speaker 1: he was still in college. The NBA, you could draft

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Speaker 1: people who are still going to be in college that

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Speaker 1: that can you imagine if you could do that right now,

751
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: because if you could Bryce Young, C J. Stroud, Will

752
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: Anderson would for sure, even in a non quarterback draft, unequivocally,

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson and Alabama will be the number one pick

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Speaker 1: in this draft. It'd be him and then a wide

755
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: gap before the tackle Abama, before the defensive lineman at Michigan,

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00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: before Thibodeau who. I think It's gonna be very, very

757
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: polarizing as we get closer to the draft, but this draft,

758
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: and listen at the time, it doesn't matter. We might

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Speaker 1: look back four or five years ago that was a

760
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Speaker 1: really good draft, or we might go actually, it wasn't

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00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: a great draft. But as of right now, based on

762
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Speaker 1: these prospects from people I've talked to in the NFL,

763
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: from just you just watch you know Daniel Jeremiah, clearly

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Speaker 1: there are no quarterbacks. When there are no elite quarterbacks

765
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: in the draft, your draft is not that great because

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Speaker 1: the most important position is quarterbacks. It's like, if you

767
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: don't have many NBA All Stars in your NBA draft,

768
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: your drafts not very good. Just just the reality. And

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Speaker 1: I would say most seasons, excuse me, let me rephrase

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Speaker 1: that in years before quarterback inflation. There's probably not a

771
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Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft that would go in the first round.

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Speaker 1: If this was two thousand four, most of these quarterbacks

773
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Speaker 1: would go in like the third round, fourth round. That

774
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Speaker 1: was normal, you know, unless you were a big time prospect,

775
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Speaker 1: which none of these guys are. And there's nothing wrong

776
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: with that. I I used to get offended and I

777
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: still kind of do when it's like this guy fell

778
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Speaker 1: in the draft. He went pick thirty eight. Now falling

779
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: in the draft is going in like the fifth round.

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Speaker 1: If you get drafted early on in the second round,

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Speaker 1: you get to say the rest of your life, I

782
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: was an early second round pick. That's pretty you're pretty

783
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Speaker 1: talented guy. You know that there are only so many guys,

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Speaker 1: There are only so many teams, There are only so

785
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: many positions, right, not everyone needs a wide receiver. So

786
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Speaker 1: if you're the fourth wide receiver on the off the board,

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00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: now you can be mad that you were the fourth

788
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver off the board. But if you go pick

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Speaker 1: thirty seven, that doesn't mean people thought you were sucked.

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Speaker 1: Maybe half the teams in the league didn't need a

791
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: wide receiver. It was alignment heavy draft, and you just

792
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: got pushed down the board. When you get drafted in

793
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: the second round, people still think you're good. So this

794
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: draft to me, lacks some star power. Last year's draft

795
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: is as good as it gets. I think next year's draft,

796
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: given how many quarterbacks are gonna be good as it gets.

797
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: A draft is powerful in terms of, you know, talking

798
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: points and the importance as its quarterbacks just a fact.

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Speaker 1: And you could argue even the wide receivers too, like

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Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase Waddle, Devonte Smith added some juice. You know.

801
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: The crazy thing looking back on last year's draft is

802
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,959
Speaker 1: that I think Mica Parsons was kind of flying under

803
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: the radar. Now he still went whatever tenth eleventh was

804
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: a tenth eleventh? Uh would have been tenth because the

805
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys traded with the Giants who traded back to twelve

806
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: and then traded to twenty. Uh was it eleven? I

807
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: forget now because Justin Fields won eleven then, or maybe

808
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: they traded with the Eagles. That that was it. An

809
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: Eagles got been Davonte Age twelve regardless, like, can you

810
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Speaker 1: imagine Michael Parsons in this draft? And also part of

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Speaker 1: it was they had several guys in that class, pena swell,

812
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: Chase Parsons who didn't play. Pretty sure, all the top

813
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Speaker 1: guys this year played. So when you're out of sight,

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Speaker 1: out of mind, you know, if you could do it

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00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: over again, I got one for you. I love Kyle Pitts,

816
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: who doesn't loved him at Florida, but he played last year,

817
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: so he was awesome. Well, what if Jamaar Chase had

818
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Speaker 1: also played. Is taking Kyle Pitts over Jamar Chase the

819
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: right choice? Because I would they say through year one,

820
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: that's not the right choice. The chance that Kyle Pitts

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Speaker 1: as good as Jamaar Chase, I would say it is

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00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: not probable. And that doesn't mean that Kyle Pitts can't

823
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: be an awesome player. He's really good. Jamar Chase looks

824
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Speaker 1: like he's gonna walk right into the Hall of Fame.

825
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: Maybe Kyle Pitts will too, but it's gonna be hard

826
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Speaker 1: for Jamar Chase. Now, obviously, who your quarterback is matters.

827
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Speaker 1: But with Kyle Pitts has been as good as Jamaar Chase.

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00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: If I put Kyle Pitts with the Bengals, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't say no because I'm not again,

830
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Speaker 1: I'm not a Kyle Pitts hater. But this draft, it's

831
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: gonna be very, very fascinating. One guy, I'm telling you,

832
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: is going to rise on the board. And this is

833
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: a position typically that does not go that high. But

834
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Speaker 1: this guy is gonna go on the top six or

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Speaker 1: seven picks. Is gonna be Kyle Hamilton's He has a

836
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: podcast for Colin Coward, and he also is suite at football.

837
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: He's tall, he can run, he can hit, and he

838
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: can make plays on the ball. And I know that

839
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Speaker 1: middle linebackers and safeties, you know, get shoved down the

840
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: board sometimes. I guess middle linebackers, you know, Devin White

841
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, went really high, Keik Lee

842
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: went eight. They they've gotten higher than safeties. But if

843
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Speaker 1: you think of safety can be a Hall of Fame safety,

844
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Speaker 1: especially now in the hybrid guys you're covering tight ends,

845
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Speaker 1: you're covering running backs out of the backfield, you're doing

846
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Speaker 1: a lot. You blitch, you're in the box. You can

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Speaker 1: I can move you all over the place. I can

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Speaker 1: play you like a pseudo linebacker. If you think Kyle

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Speaker 1: Pitts is a Hall of Famer, I take him in

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Speaker 1: I kind of like this offensive tackle and I'm pro

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Speaker 1: taking offensive line and high. But it sure doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: like Tyrone Smith's in this draft. She doesn't feel like

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Speaker 1: Trent Williams in this draft or Lane Johnson in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Could be wrong, but I don't know, Man, This this

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Speaker 1: draft is going to be very, very fascinating. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: learn a lot about it over the next couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks of the combine the testing. You know, stories just

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Speaker 1: come out. You people start drinking cocktail. I'll start telling

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Speaker 1: you what they think about these players. So slide up

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Speaker 1: into those d m s at John Middlecoff. We'll do

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Speaker 1: the Middlecoff mail bag a little bit later for the

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Speaker 1: weekend at least these next couple of weeks. UH to

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Speaker 1: stretch out a little content a little inside the pod

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Speaker 1: and um and yeah, we'll have go Low pod. Follow

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Speaker 1: that on Instagram as well. If you like golf at

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Speaker 1: Go Lo Pod. We'll have that, and we will have

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Speaker 1: a golf pod for Wednesday, and we'll just keep rocking

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Speaker 1: and rolling audios. May the piece be with you, God's

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