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Speaker 1: to talk about Lebron James so and yeah, yeah, go ahead, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I said on my show today, I said the

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Speaker 2: He was he actually Colin was playing well for the Clippers,

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Speaker 2: feel bad for USS. The Clippers did this to themselves.

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Speaker 2: rooting for that to do the opposite. Harball's usually pretty

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Speaker 1: Social media can be really really really gross. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Not to me, man, Everybody loves me so believable. I

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Speaker 2: can't believe it. Nobody's ever sent a mean tweet about me,

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Speaker 2: Nobody ever makes fun of my hair, my nose, anything.

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Speaker 2: It just universally approved, just like you, Colin, thank you

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