Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe
Speaker 1: and I'm Serena and we are with none other than
Speaker 1: Tanner from Vechelor in Paradise.
Speaker 2: Tanner, what's up guys already? Thanks for having me on this.
Speaker 1: Thanks of course, we got a lot we want to
Speaker 1: talk to you about.
Speaker 3: Is this your first time ever on We didn't have
Speaker 3: you at Charities Mental hell did we?
Speaker 2: No? No, it is my first time talking to you guys.
Speaker 3: So welcome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was listening to you guys all all throughout
Speaker 2: Charity Season with all my boys like Joey and Dawton on.
Speaker 2: So this is cool nice?
Speaker 1: Is this your first podcast?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Is oh nice?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you're my first, Joe.
Speaker 3: Then it's a special moment, special moment for everyone.
Speaker 1: Let's let's get into a little bit of your backstory.
Speaker 1: How'd you how'd you get on Charity Season in the
Speaker 1: first place?
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I was just working, living in Pitts
Speaker 2: living in Pittsburgh and uh my brother just signed me
Speaker 2: up anonymously. He didn't even tell me he was doing it. So,
Speaker 2: uh I got a ring them call from a from
Speaker 2: a cruiter. They said, do you want to be on the show.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, like probably not, but
Speaker 2: let's go through the process and kind of see what happens.
Speaker 2: And obviously I made it to the end, and it
Speaker 2: was one of those things where it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: you know, opportunity comes, you got to kind of go
Speaker 2: that way, and obviously I was single at the time,
Speaker 2: and so I said yes, and now we're here.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's the thing for a lot of people,
Speaker 3: especially people that get nominated or like scouted, is it's
Speaker 3: like do I want to be on the show?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: But do I want to see if I.
Speaker 1: Could get on the show?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, And then you.
Speaker 3: Get to the end. It's such a lengthy process and
Speaker 3: then the opportunity arises. You're like, well, am I really
Speaker 3: going to say no to this? Like I did it,
Speaker 3: I got on, Like it's such a once in a
Speaker 3: lifetime opportunity.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone. And
Speaker 1: I put myself in this group of people that, like,
Speaker 1: you almost don't want to admit to yourself that like
Speaker 1: you're kind of intrigued, Like you're like, oh, like they
Speaker 1: want me, yeah, wait, You're like your wall is instantly
Speaker 1: up until they finally ask you, and then you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I got to do it now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, even all my friends were asking me, and I
Speaker 2: kept I didn't really tell anybody I was even going
Speaker 2: through the interview process because you really can, so I
Speaker 2: was kind of keeping it pretty close to my chest.
Speaker 2: But towards the end, once I got the contract, I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, we're going to do this for sure.
Speaker 1: So and are you still in Are you still in Pittsburgh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pittsburgh, PA.
Speaker 1: And what do you do for a living?
Speaker 2: So I was I was a mortgage lender for the
Speaker 2: past three years, and I've always been part time personal
Speaker 2: training and working as a fitness instructor. But as of
Speaker 2: two weeks ago, I finally quit my mortgage job and
Speaker 2: I'm going fitness full time. So I'm super excited about it.
Speaker 3: Congratulations.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks. It's one of those things where it's like
Speaker 2: your your your main hustle funds or side hustle until
Speaker 2: you can kind of go that way. So I'm excited.
Speaker 2: So hopefully good things are coming.
Speaker 1: Do you have like do you have a do you
Speaker 1: have a gym? Do you have like a and him
Speaker 1: where you teach classes?
Speaker 2: I do. I don't own it, but I operated a
Speaker 2: gym here in Pittsburgh, but I teach like it's almost
Speaker 2: like a Berries boot camp kind of feel. It's called
Speaker 2: Walk Run Lift Studio, So I teach classes there and
Speaker 2: I also film like my YouTube channel there and my
Speaker 2: own app coming out Probaly later this year.
Speaker 3: So it'll be cool, big year, big year for Tanner. Well,
Speaker 3: if you guys live in Pittsburgh, you know where to
Speaker 3: find him. You know where to go get fit with Tanner.
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw, yeah, I saw you were in uh,
Speaker 1: I saw you were in New York and you did
Speaker 1: that like five You ran like five miles through Central Park, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is the I love the run. I
Speaker 2: kind of have a love hate relationship with running. I
Speaker 2: like more of like a weightlifter. But you know, I
Speaker 2: had a shoulder injury, so I got into running, and
Speaker 2: New York's my favorite place in the world. So anytime
Speaker 2: I'm there, I try to go for at least like
Speaker 2: a long run just to kind of zone out and
Speaker 2: see the city a bit. So it was cool.
Speaker 1: Nice, nice, Yeah, I'm doing the marathon and let's go.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that goes. But yeah, all the money like
Speaker 1: prepping for for it in all the miles that I'm
Speaker 1: putting in a week. I'm just like, my body's really starting.
Speaker 2: How are you? How are your knees? Everything? Okay, my
Speaker 2: knees are good.
Speaker 1: I'm more I'm more actually concerned about my ankles. But
Speaker 1: we'll see. My body feels okay. I'm just I'm it.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time because I still go to
Speaker 1: the gym and I'm having I'm struggling now, like lifting
Speaker 1: weights because I just feel like I'm I'm I'm losing losing,
Speaker 1: losing strength from running so much.
Speaker 3: I'll be at the end with the sign.
Speaker 2: And me too, I'll be at the end. That's awesome.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into uh, let's get into paradise.
Speaker 1: Were you were you excited? Were you shocked when they
Speaker 1: ask you? Were you hesitant? And all? To go back on?
Speaker 2: You know, it was a full day. I was in
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh a whole day before I got the call, so
Speaker 2: they gave me a lot of time to prepare thing.
Speaker 3: You guys are it's like quick turnaround, but I guess
Speaker 3: it makes sense with the guy seduling for filming exactly.
Speaker 2: So I you know, I was definitely shocked. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, give me a minute here to kind of
Speaker 2: decompress from the bachelorette and uh, and it took Honestly,
Speaker 2: it took a while. I wasn't sure if it was
Speaker 2: something I wanted to do again. I was looking forward
Speaker 2: to kind of getting back into my everyday routine and everything.
Speaker 2: But once I found out, you know that some of
Speaker 2: my guys were going, and you know, there was interest
Speaker 2: on the other side with some girls that might be there.
Speaker 2: And again, I'm a yes man. I usually say yes
Speaker 2: to fun, exciting things, and you know, a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks in Mexico sounded pretty good, so I'm happy I did.
Speaker 2: It was those great.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of women right now that are
Speaker 1: interested in you, Like they're all been pretty vocal about
Speaker 1: like you've been like one of the number one guys.
Speaker 1: Have been waiting to see who on your end? Have
Speaker 1: were you waiting to see down there?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like who was your list when they asked who you
Speaker 3: were interested in?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean I even told Kat, I said
Speaker 2: I had a very very short list kind of going
Speaker 2: in and uh, and Kat was on it for sure,
Speaker 2: and uh and Jess was on it as well. So
Speaker 2: really those two were the only two that was like
Speaker 2: somewhat interested in. But once I got there, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, kind of see what happens.
Speaker 1: So okay, so you go down and you first grab
Speaker 1: at least we see, so you first grabbed Jess. How
Speaker 1: was that conversation and did she because we see a
Speaker 1: lot of things happening right now between her and Blake,
Speaker 1: Was she interested in going on a date with you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For me, Jess was kind of hard to read
Speaker 2: in that first interaction. I was definitely super nervous coming
Speaker 2: onto the beach in the first place, and I was
Speaker 2: really looking forward to meeting her, and I don't know,
Speaker 2: we had We had a pretty good conversation, and to
Speaker 2: be honest, I wasn't sure who I wanted to take
Speaker 2: on that first tape, but I was happy to have
Speaker 2: at least met Jess. I mean, she's obviously gorgeous. He's
Speaker 2: kind of quirky and funny too, So you know, the
Speaker 2: conversation went great, but I didn't know if it had
Speaker 2: I don't know that spark, you know that right off,
Speaker 2: right off the bat, and to ask her on that date.
Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, so obviously I chose Kat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so you choose so you choose Kat, and
Speaker 1: you guys go on a date. You seem you guys
Speaker 1: hit it off, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, A quick question, Yeah, before we jump into the date,
Speaker 3: So when because now we're like backtracking that all in
Speaker 3: terms of the show. At that time Kat was with
Speaker 3: Braiden and we saw that as viewers. Was she open
Speaker 3: about her relationship with Braiden? How did she kind of
Speaker 3: describe it to you before you asked her on the date?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kat was super excited to meet me, and you know,
Speaker 2: I obviously asked about Braiden, and she said that they
Speaker 2: were like, you know, talking right, they were getting to
Speaker 2: know each other. But she didn't give me any kind
Speaker 2: of sense that, you know, she was actively pursuing him
Speaker 2: and that she was like super excited about him. And
Speaker 2: then obviously things played out a little bit differently after that,
Speaker 2: but yeah, she didn't really make it seem like they
Speaker 2: were super super into each other into each other until
Speaker 2: you know, I kind of found out later on Gotcha.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, so you go on the date, get you,
Speaker 1: you hit it off with her, and you come back
Speaker 1: and then we see all the cat braid and stuff
Speaker 1: come to a head. So we don't really see on
Speaker 1: the show. We don't really see much interviews of you
Speaker 1: talking about it, But what's going on in your mind
Speaker 1: as all this is starting to go down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I tried to try my best to stay out
Speaker 2: of all the drama as much as possible. So I
Speaker 2: was probably talking to Wells at the bar, to be honest,
Speaker 2: But you know, the way I looked at it, it
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with me. You know. I came
Speaker 2: in and I asked her on a date, and I
Speaker 2: started a relationship with Kat. If Kat and Braiden had
Speaker 2: some kind of relationship prior to me, that's that's up
Speaker 2: to them to figure out, right. I didn't really want
Speaker 2: to get involved in that. I didn't really care to
Speaker 2: know more information about that. All I cared at that
Speaker 2: point was getting to know Kat and figuring out if
Speaker 2: we were gonna, you know, make it work or not.
Speaker 2: So I just tried to stay out of it as
Speaker 2: much as possible.
Speaker 1: Smart, I mean smart. Okay, So now we get Cat.
Speaker 1: You and Cat are kind of you're basically together for
Speaker 1: paradise terms before Davia comes down, What is your what
Speaker 1: is your relationship status with Cat?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Where are you at? Like? Are you like, oh, this
Speaker 3: could really go somewhere. Are you like this is nice,
Speaker 3: but like we're still open?
Speaker 1: Have you had Have you had the conversation about being
Speaker 1: exclusive yet? Is anything anything like that?
Speaker 2: No? At that point, it was so early, especially for
Speaker 2: me because I came in a little bit late. So
Speaker 2: you know, from my perspective, Kat had a few days
Speaker 2: on the beach in the beginning to date to meet
Speaker 2: multiple people. She ended up liking Brayden, so she went
Speaker 2: that way. But for me, I came in and I
Speaker 2: really only got to really know Kat, so you know,
Speaker 2: I wasn't exclusive with her. I made that kind of
Speaker 2: clear with her. But I was excited about it, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, it was super super excited to be in Paradise.
Speaker 2: We went on an awesome date. Never rode a horse before,
Speaker 2: so like that was super fun.
Speaker 1: Did not to cut you off? Did she? Did?
Speaker 2: She?
Speaker 1: You made it clear that you didn't want to be
Speaker 1: exclusive yet, But what was her opinion on that? Did
Speaker 1: she want to be exclusive yet?
Speaker 2: No? She was on the same page, yeah, saying we
Speaker 2: were on this. We were always on the same page
Speaker 2: with when it came to that. You know, she didn't
Speaker 2: really press me to be exclusive with her, and I
Speaker 2: didn't expect her to be exclusive with me either, you know,
Speaker 2: someone else came down to the beach and asked her
Speaker 2: on a date, Like obviously, It's like that's always the
Speaker 2: hardest part about Paradise, right, It's like you want to
Speaker 2: try to be cool and like now you can go
Speaker 2: do your thing. But and I probably and I probably
Speaker 2: would have played that card. But uh, you know that's paradise, right.
Speaker 2: We're there to meet people, were there to date, so
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have tried to hold her back.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So Davia comes down, she asked, I want
Speaker 1: to talk to Tanner. You guys have a conversation.
Speaker 3: And how does that combo go? Like I'm assuming she
Speaker 3: so we know she pulls you first. Are you thinking
Speaker 3: like she's gonna pull our guys or are you like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, like there's a spark here? Does she like
Speaker 3: kind of like she obviously we know she came down
Speaker 3: to meet yo. Is she kind of disclosing that to you.
Speaker 2: A little bit? She didn't say specifically when we had
Speaker 2: the conversation that like I'm here for you. She said that,
Speaker 2: like you know, you were on my mind, You're on
Speaker 2: my list, and uh, and that was great to hear
Speaker 2: from me, because like, I obviously knew that there was
Speaker 2: some buy in from her side, and she's like adorable.
Speaker 2: She was super cute and bubbly and like excited to
Speaker 2: be there, excited to meet me. So that conversation just
Speaker 2: flowed really well. But obviously I thought she was going
Speaker 2: to be pulling other guys too, so I wasn't really
Speaker 2: expecting to be the only one that she pulled.
Speaker 1: So how did you feel when she said, Tanner, I
Speaker 1: don't need to pull anyone else. Would you like to
Speaker 1: go on the state with me?
Speaker 2: I got super excited, man, I said yes right away.
Speaker 3: I like that, and I like the way she said
Speaker 3: it of like I want to be in intentional. I
Speaker 3: talked to someone I have an interest in them, and
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with that. I thought it was great,
Speaker 3: and like I can imagine, felt really flattering on your part.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I mean it's a badass move and
Speaker 2: that's nerve wracking coming down to the beach. You don't
Speaker 2: know who's there, everyone's looking at you, and you have
Speaker 2: a date card and there's a lot of pressure. So
Speaker 2: she came in and I thought she was like she
Speaker 2: handled herself really really well. And that was attractive to
Speaker 2: me just to kind of see a strong, confident woman
Speaker 2: saying exactly what she wants and she wanted me at
Speaker 2: that point. So I've made me real good.
Speaker 1: No, that really that that came across. Okay, So you
Speaker 1: guys go on the date.
Speaker 3: And first you pull Kat oh okay, yeah, to have
Speaker 3: a chat with her.
Speaker 2: That's a key part. I did pull Cat.
Speaker 3: That is a key part. We will not skim over that.
Speaker 3: Don't worry, har We know you pulled Kat to have
Speaker 3: a conversation with her. Were you nervous going to that
Speaker 3: conversation because honestly from and it's her birthday, it's her birthday.
Speaker 1: What an asshole she have her birthday that day?
Speaker 2: I know, I know. And crazy story. I actually broke
Speaker 2: up with my last girlfriend on her birthday too, So
Speaker 2: this I know. I know. It's horrible. It's horrible.
Speaker 1: Jesus should.
Speaker 3: That information with people yourself?
Speaker 2: All right? I didn't say that, but no, I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously horrible, horrible timing with birthday. And obviously don't want
Speaker 2: to ever hurt anybody, right, That's like the one thing
Speaker 2: I never want to hurt anyone. But I was excited, I.
Speaker 1: Thought quick breaking up with people out of their birthday,
Speaker 1: for one, So we're.
Speaker 3: Cutting that part out or striking from the record.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I pulled Cat, and you know, maybe
Speaker 2: I should have pulled her first, had a conversation and
Speaker 2: then decided, but I was so in the moment and
Speaker 2: I was excited, so I responded pretty quickly. But I
Speaker 2: thought I did the right thing by pulling Cat and
Speaker 2: just letting her know where my head was at. And
Speaker 2: I just wanted to let her know that, you know,
Speaker 2: going on this date is going to give me clarity
Speaker 2: either way. Right. It's it's one of those things where
Speaker 2: it's if I go on the date with Dabia and
Speaker 2: we have a shitty date and it sucks and we
Speaker 2: don't like each other, then like great, and then come
Speaker 2: back and Cat and I keep building something that was
Speaker 2: already pretty strong, or like the opposite happens, right, So, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I say yes and yeah, so we'll see.
Speaker 1: And what was what was Kat's response to basically you saying, like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go on this date?
Speaker 2: She she wasn't happy. No, no, she was she was
Speaker 2: not not happy.
Speaker 1: I mean, what was her what was her reasoning for
Speaker 1: not being what was her. Did she tell you, like,
Speaker 1: I don't think you should go?
Speaker 2: She didn't know, She didn't say that. She's like she said,
Speaker 2: she was kind of passive aggressive in the way she
Speaker 2: was saying, you know, go do your thing, whatever makes
Speaker 2: you happy. And you know, it put me in a
Speaker 2: bad situation too, because I wish that you would have
Speaker 2: been somewhat understanding of the position I was in, but
Speaker 2: there really was no understanding from her point, and she
Speaker 2: kind of stormed off. So obviously no hard feelings at
Speaker 2: that time. I went on and went on the date anyways,
Speaker 2: but it was it was definitely tough because you don't
Speaker 2: want to hurt anyone, and obviously it being her birthday,
Speaker 2: we planned on spending her birthday together at Paradise. So yeah,
Speaker 2: just just bad timing all around there.
Speaker 1: So was there anything that she could have said to
Speaker 1: stop you from going on the date.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, to be honest. At that point,
Speaker 2: it was so early in our relationship and I wanted
Speaker 2: to go on a date with Dabya. You know it
Speaker 2: was she was a gorgeous girl that came down super excited,
Speaker 2: and I knew we were gonna have fun. So I
Speaker 2: don't think there's anything that Kat could have said that
Speaker 2: it would stop me. But I thought of Kat maybe
Speaker 2: handled it a little bit better. It could have maybe
Speaker 2: had a better impression in my mind about about Kat right.
Speaker 3: The way she handled it, Like if she handled it
Speaker 3: and the conversation had gone really well and she was
Speaker 3: really understanding that, Yeah, you would have been attractive to
Speaker 3: that quality and maybe a little more like you probably
Speaker 3: still would have on the date but been like, oh,
Speaker 3: like I'm excited to come back and talk to her.
Speaker 3: Yeh like left you with a good impression before you
Speaker 3: went on the.
Speaker 1: Date and that. Okay, so you're having your date with
Speaker 1: Davia now and it's from our point of view, it
Speaker 1: looks like it's going great. Could you talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about just how it went and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, uh, we went to dinner and we
Speaker 2: had a beautiful conversation. Honestly, we were so engaged with
Speaker 2: each other and we shared a lot of deep things
Speaker 2: about one another, and it was awesome. We really had,
Speaker 2: you know, uninterrupted time to get to know each other,
Speaker 2: and we were actually a lot more similar than when
Speaker 2: we thought, you know, and we had a great dinner. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we had a little surprise on the rooftop after we
Speaker 2: had a little private salsa band up there and we
Speaker 2: danced the night away. And she's honestly a fantastic dancer.
Speaker 3: Like I was gonna say, was she like a dancer
Speaker 3: or ballerina or something, because like you guys did the
Speaker 3: journey dance left, I was like, oh, she's like you
Speaker 3: say she she's like the way she's holding her body,
Speaker 3: she's done this before.
Speaker 2: And I like that big dumb, strong guy like, yep,
Speaker 2: I can do this part. But yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: if she was in ballet, but she was definitely a dancer.
Speaker 2: So I was just following her lead and we were
Speaker 2: cracking up like we were having so much fun, and
Speaker 2: it was honestly, it was a great, great night. It
Speaker 2: was a great date.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it looked like a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a good time, all right.
Speaker 1: So then what is give us like a percentage of
Speaker 1: where is your mind at with who? After this date
Speaker 1: you're leaning more towards dove.
Speaker 3: Out, I mean like seventy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like where are you?
Speaker 2: You know? I hate this about myself, but I'm very
Speaker 2: indecisive and I try not to be, like I really like,
Speaker 2: take me to cheesecake factory, and I'll crumble because if
Speaker 2: there's too many options here but it's too big, like
Speaker 2: give me eight entrees, it'll be good. But uh, But honestly,
Speaker 2: between Cat and Doggya, they were so different, and and
Speaker 2: Cat and I started off so strong, and I went
Speaker 2: there to meet Cat, so that was always in the
Speaker 2: back of my head, where you know, I came here
Speaker 2: specifically to meet Kat. I'm here with Kat. Let's see
Speaker 2: where that goes. But then Dabia came in and kind
Speaker 2: of shook things up for me. So I hate to
Speaker 2: say it, but and that in those moments, I was
Speaker 2: really fifty to fifty I really was wow. Interesting.
Speaker 1: See, I would have thought you would have been like
Speaker 1: especially the way Kat handled the initial conversation before you
Speaker 1: went on the date. I would have thought that day
Speaker 1: after watching that date, you would have been like eighty
Speaker 1: twenty Dabya.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had spent like three days with that, so
Speaker 3: there's a lot of like foundation there too, I guess, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean it was tough, and especially because like I
Speaker 2: wanted to, I never wanted to make too quick of
Speaker 2: a decision either too. I kind of wanted to see
Speaker 2: where things played out. So in those moments, it was
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty because in my head I was like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe even Cat and I can work on things. Maybe
Speaker 2: Cat and I can get there. Right, So it's it
Speaker 2: was tough. It was definitely tough. But yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I was fifty to fifty in those moments. It was
Speaker 2: pretty hard.
Speaker 1: Okay, so then you get you get down, you guys
Speaker 1: get down to the beach. We we we see in
Speaker 1: the teaser that you end up Pulley Cat have that conversation.
Speaker 1: So we can't talk about that. But what are you
Speaker 1: are you talking to any of the guys? Are you
Speaker 1: getting in?
Speaker 3: Oh? Hey, I have a question. So yeah, did you
Speaker 3: come down late that day?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't think we didn't see anybody on
Speaker 2: the beach when we came back.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's yeah, that would have been part two my question.
Speaker 3: So it looked like the way it was all showed
Speaker 3: was you guys came back after everyone had gone to bed,
Speaker 3: and then you came down to breakfast at lunchtime.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you came down I'm assuming correct me if
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. After Kat and Davia had had their morning
Speaker 3: chat about.
Speaker 2: Correct, yep, yep. I had no idea that they talked
Speaker 2: at that moment, but yeah, they had already spoke when.
Speaker 3: You pulled Kat, Did you know that Davia and her
Speaker 3: had already had a conversation.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, I don't even I wasn't
Speaker 2: even thinking about that, to be honest, I was just
Speaker 2: kind of laser focused on the conversation I was about
Speaker 2: to have with Kat, you know.
Speaker 3: And going into that conversation, how did you feel, you know?
Speaker 2: I would I wouldn't say I was conflicted because I
Speaker 2: made up, made my decision and I went with it.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I didn't want
Speaker 2: to have to hurt anybody, and I knew that Cat
Speaker 2: was into me in that moment, so I was nervous
Speaker 2: to have the conversation, But with the conversation you need
Speaker 2: to be had, you know.
Speaker 1: But did you did you talk to any of your
Speaker 1: boys before that and kind of try to get the
Speaker 1: temperature of what happened the night before, what was going
Speaker 1: on with Kat?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. I actually talked to Braiden, of
Speaker 2: all guys in the room a little bit about it. Uh,
Speaker 2: that that next morning, because when Dogby and I got
Speaker 2: back from our date, everyone was pretty much asleep. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I woke up the next day, talked to the boys
Speaker 2: and the room. I was talking to a then talking
Speaker 2: to Tyler, talking to Braiden a bit, and you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they gave me any advice that
Speaker 2: made me kind of go either way, just kind of
Speaker 2: following my heart in that moment. But your boy had
Speaker 2: to do what he had to do, you know. Wow.
Speaker 3: So pulling cat aside that morning, and you know, obviously
Speaker 3: we're going to see how the conversation unfolds, But what
Speaker 3: are your intentions and your kind of like mental game
Speaker 3: plan going into this conversation with her? Like what do
Speaker 3: you want to tell her?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was going to tell her exactly where my
Speaker 2: heart was, and I was going to try to just
Speaker 2: try to stay calm as possible, you know, I'd try to.
Speaker 2: I pride myself, I'm not getting too high or too low.
Speaker 2: So I was just trying to stay calm, cool and
Speaker 2: collected and just let her know exactly where I was,
Speaker 2: exactly why I went on the date, where I thought
Speaker 2: we were in that moment, and where I thought we
Speaker 2: could go, So just trying to wrap my head around
Speaker 2: all that so I can kind of tell her the
Speaker 2: best way possible.
Speaker 1: So did you know where Davia stood before going into
Speaker 1: that conversation?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Not really, I mean, there wasn't it. We didn't confirm anything,
Speaker 2: we didn't really talk about it, but we knew we
Speaker 2: had a really good night and I felt like the
Speaker 2: energy was there and it was you know, we just
Speaker 2: had a really fun time and we were kind of
Speaker 2: meeting each other halfway, so I didn't feel like I
Speaker 2: had to ask her where we were. I kind of
Speaker 2: felt like I knew that in that moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you ever? And I mean like, obviously Kat
Speaker 3: is not a scary person, but were you Were you
Speaker 3: scared or nervous about her response going into the conversation
Speaker 3: just because the first combo of just going on the
Speaker 3: date hadn't gone well and now you're about to have
Speaker 3: a second conversation.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was, yeh, I mean a little bit. I
Speaker 2: mean I am scared of Cat. I was. I was
Speaker 2: scared of Cat in that moment, you know, especially because
Speaker 2: Kat was super tight with all the girls in the
Speaker 2: beach too, so you know, if I rubbed her the
Speaker 2: wrong way, she could, you know, kind of room my
Speaker 2: reputation with the other girls or something like that. So
Speaker 2: that was kind of on my mind where I didn't
Speaker 2: want to hurt her, but I also didn't want to
Speaker 2: like room when you know, the reputation that I had
Speaker 2: on the beach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to feel like you're like public
Speaker 3: enemy number one now with the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. So trying trying to play both sides.
Speaker 2: It's kind of tough.
Speaker 1: And we see we see a lot of we see
Speaker 1: a lot of things go down on this episode. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the other couples on the beach?
Speaker 3: Let's talk through some of the.
Speaker 2: Couple somebody else really, yeah.
Speaker 1: We really do. On your situation, let's talk what is
Speaker 1: your what are your thoughts? Because we see, just for
Speaker 1: the first time, kind of open up that Blake is
Speaker 1: not really her number one.
Speaker 3: Well she says she he is her number one, but
Speaker 3: with a lot of hesitancy and basically is just like
Speaker 3: he's my strongest connection number or like that's basically the
Speaker 3: tone is like there's no one else that I have
Speaker 3: a connection with, so because of that, he's my number one.
Speaker 3: And we're kind of just starting to see their relationship.
Speaker 3: I don't want to say crumble, but I feel like
Speaker 3: they're finally being like tested, yeah, tested. What was your
Speaker 3: take on their relationship at this point?
Speaker 2: At this point, I mean, it seemed from me a
Speaker 2: pretty surface level. You know. I saw other relationships that
Speaker 2: were that were developing and getting stronger, and I can
Speaker 2: see them interacting, and it seemed like it would work.
Speaker 2: At times when I would look like see Blake and Jess,
Speaker 2: it looked like it was pretty surface level, almost like
Speaker 2: you know, this is my boyfriend, this is my girlfriend,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna sit next to each other, right, So,
Speaker 2: but I don't know how many behind closed doors or
Speaker 2: you know, elsewhere on the beach. I don't know what
Speaker 2: their conversations are looking like. But from from my.
Speaker 1: Thing, that's the thing. On the beach, there really are
Speaker 1: no closed doors, so what you see is usually correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: That's very true.
Speaker 3: So then in contrast to yeah, I feel like that
Speaker 3: is what we're seeing as viewers. But it is interesting
Speaker 3: to hear that.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you, who.
Speaker 3: Do oh I got a question for me?
Speaker 1: Okay, because I want to hear I want I want
Speaker 1: Tanner's opinion on this who at this point do you
Speaker 1: think is Serena do you think is the strongest couple
Speaker 1: on the beach.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go Kylie and Evan.
Speaker 1: So I think the strongest couple on the beach right
Speaker 1: now is is Aaron b and Eliza who who in
Speaker 1: your opinion, is the strongest at this point.
Speaker 2: I gotta go with you, Joe. I gotta go with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not not taking anything again.
Speaker 3: That was like my pickers off, I'm not as good
Speaker 3: as they used to be. So now he's feeling pretty
Speaker 3: good about himself.
Speaker 2: Joe had me go and top four in the Bachelorette too,
Speaker 2: and I was one off. I couldn't make them proud.
Speaker 1: Let me down, Let me down, Tanner, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry man. But and Eliza, I love them at
Speaker 2: that point, like they were just they just look great
Speaker 2: together and I love their energy and like he respected
Speaker 2: her so much, So like at that point, I thought
Speaker 2: that was the strongest. Even even Aaron said it a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. He's like, you know, if anyone's going
Speaker 2: the distance, he thought it was going to be them,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I gotta go with you, Joe. But even
Speaker 2: and Kylie like that, next that next strongest couple for sure.
Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like Eliza and Aaron did have that like
Speaker 3: test of her going on that date with John Bee
Speaker 3: and her coming back, and I feel like when that
Speaker 3: does happen, it like really solidifies a couple if you
Speaker 3: can kind of get through that. And she came back
Speaker 3: and was like, Nah, it's you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or you do it, or you don't.
Speaker 2: Don't do it, don't do what I do, what not
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 3: Either thing is a good thing, though, because you either
Speaker 3: come back and you know one way or the other.
Speaker 3: It brings you that clarity.
Speaker 1: And then what about what about Tyler and Mercedes? Because
Speaker 1: we see Mercedes make out with John Henry and then
Speaker 1: we do see in the super teaser that Jack Tyler
Speaker 1: and Jess hook Opper makeout. So what is their relationship
Speaker 1: status because that has to be surface level in my opinion.
Speaker 2: You know, it didn't seem that way to me at
Speaker 2: that point. It looked like Tyler and Mercedes were actually
Speaker 2: hitting it off. And I really didn't see Tyler pursuing
Speaker 2: anybody else on the beach, and I didn't and I
Speaker 2: talked to Mercedes a few times. She's a good friend
Speaker 2: of mine at that point in the in the show,
Speaker 2: and it didn't seem like she was really pursuing anybody
Speaker 2: else either, so it seemed like there was something there,
Speaker 2: but they were probably just not exclusive yet, so I
Speaker 2: guess we'll see how it plays out. But yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Were you said to see how Sewn leave sew Well,
Speaker 1: Sean Sean's technically at this point, you and Sean went
Speaker 1: against each other in the in the tu on one.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you guys did do the two one. Who
Speaker 3: are your closest friends on the beach You can include Sean, Aaron,
Speaker 3: and Well in that even though we just saw them.
Speaker 2: Leave, gotcha. Yeah, when John Henry and John B showed up,
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, let's go my boys here, but
Speaker 2: definitely Sean. I mean I was blessed. I mean all
Speaker 2: my guys for my show, for my season were on
Speaker 2: the beach, right, So yeah, I mean it was really
Speaker 2: only Tyler, Avan and Blake that really weren't and Will,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I hate to give you the
Speaker 2: answer that I liked everyone, but I really do. So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny because when we had Joey on
Speaker 3: way back when at the beginning of Charity season, He
Speaker 3: also said John Henry's name, and I feel like we're
Speaker 3: just getting to know John Henry now as viewers, but
Speaker 3: he seems to be very well liked amongst them.
Speaker 1: John Henry is a nervous wreck, which understandable. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like that when I was first in the showing.
Speaker 1: I see him shake, I'm like, oh, but you could
Speaker 1: tell he's probably very social and personable, but he just
Speaker 1: he has stage train at the beginning.
Speaker 3: Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: You know? He's he's so dry, So like the more
Speaker 2: you're around him, you kind of pick up on his
Speaker 2: humor and then all of a sudden, everything that comes
Speaker 2: out of his mouth it's hilarious. So he's kind of
Speaker 2: one of those so you kind of have to be
Speaker 2: around him for a while he has to warm up
Speaker 2: to you. But he's just a good human being. I
Speaker 2: love John Henry.
Speaker 1: I'm not very dry.
Speaker 3: You're not very dry.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it helps or hurts the guys
Speaker 3: when all of them are friends and buddies, because we
Speaker 3: do talk a lot about like the guys coming down
Speaker 3: and like they grow out and that ends up being
Speaker 3: like to their detriment, and also then the guys don't
Speaker 3: want to like step on each other's toes. You know,
Speaker 3: like you just said, John Henry's one of your friends.
Speaker 3: We see in the super Tease cat going after John Henry. Like,
Speaker 3: does it create kind of a weird dynamic.
Speaker 2: A little bit. I would say it created a lot
Speaker 2: weirder of a dynamic for the girls actually. So yeah,
Speaker 2: even though us guys were super close, I felt like
Speaker 2: we we knew the roles of like Paradise, right, we're
Speaker 2: there to date, we're there to meet people. Yeah, we're
Speaker 2: eventually gonna step on each other's toes, but there was
Speaker 2: always kind of a respect factor there too. Where the girls.
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the girls actually shut
Speaker 2: themselves off to dating anybody else because they maybe kissed
Speaker 2: one of their friends and they were really treating Paradise
Speaker 2: almost like you're out at a bar and like, you know,
Speaker 2: someone's talking to your friend, where you know, it's not
Speaker 2: really like that. We're on the reality dating show. We're
Speaker 2: supposed to be dating people and meeting people. So I
Speaker 2: feel like it actually hurt the girls more than hurt
Speaker 2: the guys because some of the girls really just like
Speaker 2: close themselves off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you have to have. I feel
Speaker 1: like you have to have a conversation with your friends
Speaker 1: going into that show of like, hey, my my number
Speaker 1: one goal here is to meet someone, so like, yeah.
Speaker 3: But you just never know how it's going to go
Speaker 3: till you get down there. Like Abigail and I didn't
Speaker 3: have that conversation, and like we never needed to. We
Speaker 3: went for different guys. We're interested in different guys, and
Speaker 3: I feel like you kind of hope that's how it's
Speaker 3: going to go. And I feel like this season we're
Speaker 3: seeing a little more crossover, a little more like, you know,
Speaker 3: people worried about exploring and stepping on each other's toes
Speaker 3: than maybe we've seen in the past. But that's interesting
Speaker 3: that it was the girls this season.
Speaker 1: That's why there's a truth box, and that's why there's
Speaker 1: the truth.
Speaker 2: Truth, the truth box, the truth box. But yeah, that
Speaker 2: truth box is crazy.
Speaker 3: It was you weren't there for truth and dare the truth? There?
Speaker 3: You were on your day with dab right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was dancing the night away. You're dancing the night away.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we're gonna we're gonna jump in.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play a quick game Tanner before we do, though,
Speaker 1: I want to ask you have any any regrets?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, zero, I didn't think so.
Speaker 1: You don't strike me as a guy that regrets things.
Speaker 2: I got a tattooed on my arm.
Speaker 3: Not kidding, I have no regrets.
Speaker 1: Do you do you want to do what you want
Speaker 1: me to do?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 1: You do it?
Speaker 2: Joe?
Speaker 1: All right, rabbit fire. Are you more of an introvert
Speaker 1: or extrovert?
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm introverted extrovert to be honest.
Speaker 1: Okay, already breaking the rules. What would you what would
Speaker 1: what would be your go to paradise cocktail?
Speaker 2: Oh, it depends on the time of day. Sorry, It's
Speaker 2: supposed to be one word answers. It depends on the
Speaker 2: time of day. It goes early to be Mimosa with Rachel,
Speaker 2: and if it's anytime past like two pm, probably tequila
Speaker 2: soda a lot.
Speaker 1: Okay. What is the first thing you would buy if
Speaker 1: you won the lottery?
Speaker 2: You can answer this so many different ways. Probably real estate,
Speaker 2: probably by real estate be rich forever, and by beach
Speaker 2: house too.
Speaker 1: What all time favorite Taylor Swift song?
Speaker 2: You know I'm actually a new Swifty. I used to
Speaker 2: love Taylor Swift. I'm kind of getting back into it.
Speaker 2: I love Cardigan Cardigan.
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that is a good one.
Speaker 2: It's so good. I listen to that Song's gonna love.
Speaker 1: That Sean Johnson Swifty. He said it eighteen hundred times
Speaker 1: in the show. What is one item on your bucket list?
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of this is out of my control.
Speaker 2: But the Steelers ever go to the Super Bowl, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go see them with it. Steelers, Well, they say
Speaker 2: it might not be for a while, Joe, but we'll see. Well,
Speaker 2: I'm a Bears fan, so you're similar.
Speaker 3: In this recent episodes have done his absolute best to
Speaker 3: integrate football into every single podcast. We go back and
Speaker 3: listen to our last like six episodes. Somehow Joe has
Speaker 3: found a way to brant football just so funny belist.
Speaker 1: The Steelers have have been in the past ten years,
Speaker 1: They've they've made the playoffs a few times, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean Mike Tommins never had a losing season. I mean,
Speaker 2: we kind of had a lot of good teams that
Speaker 2: didn't win anything. But I don't know, We're used to
Speaker 2: winning championships in Pittsburgh, so it's been it's been bad recently.
Speaker 1: We're not in Chicago. Do you have any dating deal breakers.
Speaker 2: Not not really. I mean I like to exercise and
Speaker 2: like live like a healthy life, so they that needs
Speaker 2: to be a priority for my girl for sure.
Speaker 1: What is your love language?
Speaker 2: It is access service.
Speaker 1: What is your favorite dessert?
Speaker 2: Favorite dessert? I like like a like a hot brown
Speaker 2: like chocolate brownie with like vanilla ice cream, a little
Speaker 2: hot and cold.
Speaker 1: Do you think you will end up breaking up with
Speaker 1: somebody on their birthday in the future, I would never do.
Speaker 1: What is What is the important item to pack for paradise.
Speaker 2: I've heard people say this in the past, but for me,
Speaker 2: it's one hundred percent sure. It was bug spray. I
Speaker 2: got killed with the bugs. Like if you if you
Speaker 2: watch the show, if you pay attention to my back
Speaker 2: at any point in time, like I had huge welts
Speaker 2: all over my back then, that's sorry.
Speaker 3: Crazy. So our season, the weather was too insanely hot,
Speaker 3: like it was brutal. The only good thing about that
Speaker 3: is we had no bugs. But we came back the
Speaker 3: following year and did a little visit and I was
Speaker 3: getting eaten alive. I was like, what is going on?
Speaker 3: The weather is beautiful, but I'm like covered in bug bites.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the worst.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad for us. And it wasn't too
Speaker 2: hot for us either. Down there. It wasn't nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lucky it was hot in our season.
Speaker 2: We had made a couple of hot nights like that.
Speaker 2: The last road ceremony, I was dripping sweat. It looked disgusting,
Speaker 2: but yeah, the worst.
Speaker 1: All right, Tanner, thank you, thank you for coming on
Speaker 1: a Happy Hour.
Speaker 2: Thanks yeah, thanks very thanks Joe.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys, and thank you everyone for tuning in.
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