WEBVTT - Tanner Has No Regrets 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.440 Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.440 and I'm Serena and we are with none other than 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.200 Tanner from Vechelor in Paradise. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.879 Tanner, what's up guys already? Thanks for having me on this. 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:15.880 Thanks of course, we got a lot we want to 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:16.439 talk to you about. 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:18.280 Is this your first time ever on We didn't have 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:20.640 you at Charities Mental hell did we? 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.760 No? No, it is my first time talking to you guys. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:24.200 So welcome. 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:27.160 Yeah. I was listening to you guys all all throughout 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:29.639 Charity Season with all my boys like Joey and Dawton on. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.479 So this is cool nice? 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:33.240 Is this your first podcast? 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:34.200 Sure? 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:35.440 Is oh nice? 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.440 Okay, all right, you're my first, Joe. 0:00:37.760 --> 0:00:41.400 Then it's a special moment, special moment for everyone. 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.400 Let's let's get into a little bit of your backstory. 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:48.800 How'd you how'd you get on Charity Season in the 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:49.320 first place? 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.240 Yes, I mean I was just working, living in Pitts 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.680 living in Pittsburgh and uh my brother just signed me 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.480 up anonymously. He didn't even tell me he was doing it. So, 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.120 uh I got a ring them call from a from 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:03.240 a cruiter. They said, do you want to be on the show. 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.120 I was like, I don't know, like probably not, but 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:08.800 let's go through the process and kind of see what happens. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.920 And obviously I made it to the end, and it 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:12.959 was one of those things where it was like, you know, 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.280 you know, opportunity comes, you got to kind of go 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:17.920 that way, and obviously I was single at the time, 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.240 and so I said yes, and now we're here. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.759 I feel like that's the thing for a lot of people, 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:27.640 especially people that get nominated or like scouted, is it's 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:29.840 like do I want to be on the show? 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:30.360 No? 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:32.319 But do I want to see if I. 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:33.120 Could get on the show? 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:34.640 Yeah? Exactly, And then you. 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.760 Get to the end. It's such a lengthy process and 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.319 then the opportunity arises. You're like, well, am I really 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.440 going to say no to this? Like I did it, 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:43.640 I got on, Like it's such a once in a 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:44.640 lifetime opportunity. 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.960 Well, I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone. And 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:51.000 I put myself in this group of people that, like, 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:53.760 you almost don't want to admit to yourself that like 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.680 you're kind of intrigued, Like you're like, oh, like they 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:04.200 want me, yeah, wait, You're like your wall is instantly 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.800 up until they finally ask you, and then you're like, well, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:07.560 I got to do it now. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:11.240 Yeah, even all my friends were asking me, and I 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.800 kept I didn't really tell anybody I was even going 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.800 through the interview process because you really can, so I 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.600 was kind of keeping it pretty close to my chest. 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.640 But towards the end, once I got the contract, I 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:23.200 was like, yeah, we're going to do this for sure. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:28.160 So and are you still in Are you still in Pittsburgh? 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:29.520 Yeah, Pittsburgh, PA. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.680 And what do you do for a living? 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:34.519 So I was I was a mortgage lender for the 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.320 past three years, and I've always been part time personal 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.200 training and working as a fitness instructor. But as of 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.840 two weeks ago, I finally quit my mortgage job and 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.360 I'm going fitness full time. So I'm super excited about it. 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:46.480 Congratulations. 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:48.880 Yeah. Thanks. It's one of those things where it's like 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:51.760 your your your main hustle funds or side hustle until 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.639 you can kind of go that way. So I'm excited. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.200 So hopefully good things are coming. 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.200 Do you have like do you have a do you 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:00.320 have a gym? Do you have like a and him 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:01.720 where you teach classes? 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.120 I do. I don't own it, but I operated a 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.440 gym here in Pittsburgh, but I teach like it's almost 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.480 like a Berries boot camp kind of feel. It's called 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:12.160 Walk Run Lift Studio, So I teach classes there and 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:15.040 I also film like my YouTube channel there and my 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.119 own app coming out Probaly later this year. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.639 So it'll be cool, big year, big year for Tanner. Well, 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.440 if you guys live in Pittsburgh, you know where to 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.640 find him. You know where to go get fit with Tanner. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.160 I saw, I saw, yeah, I saw you were in uh, 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.079 I saw you were in New York and you did 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:34.320 that like five You ran like five miles through Central Park, right. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.680 Yeah, yeah, this is the I love the run. I 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:38.800 kind of have a love hate relationship with running. I 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.200 like more of like a weightlifter. But you know, I 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.480 had a shoulder injury, so I got into running, and 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:47.040 New York's my favorite place in the world. So anytime 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:48.320 I'm there, I try to go for at least like 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.240 a long run just to kind of zone out and 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.360 see the city a bit. So it was cool. 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.760 Nice, nice, Yeah, I'm doing the marathon and let's go. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.240 So yeah, that goes. But yeah, all the money like 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.040 prepping for for it in all the miles that I'm 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.800 putting in a week. I'm just like, my body's really starting. 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.040 How are you? How are your knees? Everything? Okay, my 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:09.960 knees are good. 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:15.760 I'm more I'm more actually concerned about my ankles. But 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.719 we'll see. My body feels okay. I'm just I'm it. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.960 I have a hard time because I still go to 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.719 the gym and I'm having I'm struggling now, like lifting 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.920 weights because I just feel like I'm I'm I'm losing losing, 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.000 losing strength from running so much. 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:36.400 I'll be at the end with the sign. 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:39.440 And me too, I'll be at the end. That's awesome. 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.640 All right, let's get into uh, let's get into paradise. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:46.960 Were you were you excited? Were you shocked when they 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:49.200 ask you? Were you hesitant? And all? To go back on? 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.640 You know, it was a full day. I was in 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:53.719 Pittsburgh a whole day before I got the call, so 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.560 they gave me a lot of time to prepare thing. 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.800 You guys are it's like quick turnaround, but I guess 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.240 it makes sense with the guy seduling for filming exactly. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.080 So I you know, I was definitely shocked. I was like, 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:06.440 you know, give me a minute here to kind of 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.320 decompress from the bachelorette and uh, and it took Honestly, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:11.520 it took a while. I wasn't sure if it was 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.800 something I wanted to do again. I was looking forward 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.239 to kind of getting back into my everyday routine and everything. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.440 But once I found out, you know that some of 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.880 my guys were going, and you know, there was interest 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.880 on the other side with some girls that might be there. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.560 And again, I'm a yes man. I usually say yes 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:30.120 to fun, exciting things, and you know, a couple of 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.720 weeks in Mexico sounded pretty good, so I'm happy I did. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:34.440 It was those great. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.240 Well, there's a lot of women right now that are 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.200 interested in you, Like they're all been pretty vocal about 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:42.360 like you've been like one of the number one guys. 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.520 Have been waiting to see who on your end? Have 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.320 were you waiting to see down there? 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:47.599 Yeah? 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.400 Like who was your list when they asked who you 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:50.280 were interested in? 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:50.960 Yeah? 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.240 Yeah, So I mean I even told Kat, I said 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:55.520 I had a very very short list kind of going 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.440 in and uh, and Kat was on it for sure, 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:00.680 and uh and Jess was on it as well. So 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.360 really those two were the only two that was like 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.320 somewhat interested in. But once I got there, you know, 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.279 it's like, well, kind of see what happens. 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.960 So okay, so you go down and you first grab 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:17.760 at least we see, so you first grabbed Jess. How 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:21.120 was that conversation and did she because we see a 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.719 lot of things happening right now between her and Blake, 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.920 Was she interested in going on a date with you? 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.000 Yeah? For me, Jess was kind of hard to read 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:35.320 in that first interaction. I was definitely super nervous coming 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.560 onto the beach in the first place, and I was 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.279 really looking forward to meeting her, and I don't know, 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.880 we had We had a pretty good conversation, and to 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.640 be honest, I wasn't sure who I wanted to take 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.000 on that first tape, but I was happy to have 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.280 at least met Jess. I mean, she's obviously gorgeous. He's 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.919 kind of quirky and funny too, So you know, the 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.040 conversation went great, but I didn't know if it had 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.000 I don't know that spark, you know that right off, 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.920 right off the bat, and to ask her on that date. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.799 So okay, yeah, so obviously I chose Kat. 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.880 Yeah, So so you choose so you choose Kat, and 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:10.920 you guys go on a date. You seem you guys 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:12.239 hit it off, right. 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.920 Yeah, A quick question, Yeah, before we jump into the date, 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.320 So when because now we're like backtracking that all in 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.920 terms of the show. At that time Kat was with 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:29.080 Braiden and we saw that as viewers. Was she open 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.160 about her relationship with Braiden? How did she kind of 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.160 describe it to you before you asked her on the date? 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:34.680 Yeah? 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.120 Yeah, Kat was super excited to meet me, and you know, 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.840 I obviously asked about Braiden, and she said that they 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.760 were like, you know, talking right, they were getting to 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.760 know each other. But she didn't give me any kind 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.680 of sense that, you know, she was actively pursuing him 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:51.200 and that she was like super excited about him. And 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.960 then obviously things played out a little bit differently after that, 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.960 but yeah, she didn't really make it seem like they 0:07:56.960 --> 0:07:59.600 were super super into each other into each other until 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.600 you know, I kind of found out later on Gotcha. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.720 Okay, Okay, so you go on the date, get you, 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:08.840 you hit it off with her, and you come back 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.239 and then we see all the cat braid and stuff 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.800 come to a head. So we don't really see on 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:18.800 the show. We don't really see much interviews of you 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.000 talking about it, But what's going on in your mind 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.800 as all this is starting to go down. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.080 Yeah. I tried to try my best to stay out 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:28.720 of all the drama as much as possible. So I 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.880 was probably talking to Wells at the bar, to be honest, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.960 But you know, the way I looked at it, it 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.960 had nothing to do with me. You know. I came 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.920 in and I asked her on a date, and I 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.840 started a relationship with Kat. If Kat and Braiden had 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.360 some kind of relationship prior to me, that's that's up 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.840 to them to figure out, right. I didn't really want 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.080 to get involved in that. I didn't really care to 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.120 know more information about that. All I cared at that 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.920 point was getting to know Kat and figuring out if 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.680 we were gonna, you know, make it work or not. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.520 So I just tried to stay out of it as 0:08:58.600 --> 0:08:59.320 much as possible. 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:05.439 Smart, I mean smart. Okay, So now we get Cat. 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:10.559 You and Cat are kind of you're basically together for 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:16.080 paradise terms before Davia comes down, What is your what 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.520 is your relationship status with Cat? 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:18.839 Yeah? 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.720 Where are you at? Like? Are you like, oh, this 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.679 could really go somewhere. Are you like this is nice, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:23.840 but like we're still open? 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.720 Have you had Have you had the conversation about being 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:28.760 exclusive yet? Is anything anything like that? 0:09:29.320 --> 0:09:32.320 No? At that point, it was so early, especially for 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.000 me because I came in a little bit late. So 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:36.720 you know, from my perspective, Kat had a few days 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.520 on the beach in the beginning to date to meet 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.800 multiple people. She ended up liking Brayden, so she went 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.000 that way. But for me, I came in and I 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.640 really only got to really know Kat, so you know, 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.640 I wasn't exclusive with her. I made that kind of 0:09:51.640 --> 0:09:54.760 clear with her. But I was excited about it, right, 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.000 I mean, it was super super excited to be in Paradise. 0:09:57.080 --> 0:10:00.439 We went on an awesome date. Never rode a horse before, 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:01.640 so like that was super fun. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.000 Did not to cut you off? Did she? Did? 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:05.240 She? 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.640 You made it clear that you didn't want to be 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.960 exclusive yet, But what was her opinion on that? Did 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.440 she want to be exclusive yet? 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:14.960 No? She was on the same page, yeah, saying we 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.720 were on this. We were always on the same page 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.360 with when it came to that. You know, she didn't 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.920 really press me to be exclusive with her, and I 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.120 didn't expect her to be exclusive with me either, you know, 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:26.520 someone else came down to the beach and asked her 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.280 on a date, Like obviously, It's like that's always the 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.319 hardest part about Paradise, right, It's like you want to 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:32.680 try to be cool and like now you can go 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:35.000 do your thing. But and I probably and I probably 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.360 would have played that card. But uh, you know that's paradise, right. 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.120 We're there to meet people, were there to date, so 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:41.680 I wouldn't have tried to hold her back. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:48.760 Okay, Okay, So Davia comes down, she asked, I want 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:52.240 to talk to Tanner. You guys have a conversation. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.760 And how does that combo go? Like I'm assuming she 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.199 so we know she pulls you first. Are you thinking 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.040 like she's gonna pull our guys or are you like, 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.320 oh yeah, like there's a spark here? Does she like 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:05.400 kind of like she obviously we know she came down 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.880 to meet yo. Is she kind of disclosing that to you. 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.199 A little bit? She didn't say specifically when we had 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.880 the conversation that like I'm here for you. She said that, 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.160 like you know, you were on my mind, You're on 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.640 my list, and uh, and that was great to hear 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:22.520 from me, because like, I obviously knew that there was 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.920 some buy in from her side, and she's like adorable. 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.120 She was super cute and bubbly and like excited to 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:32.280 be there, excited to meet me. So that conversation just 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.640 flowed really well. But obviously I thought she was going 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.679 to be pulling other guys too, so I wasn't really 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.280 expecting to be the only one that she pulled. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.319 So how did you feel when she said, Tanner, I 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:49.960 don't need to pull anyone else. Would you like to 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:50.760 go on the state with me? 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:54.040 I got super excited, man, I said yes right away. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.240 I like that, and I like the way she said 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.960 it of like I want to be in intentional. I 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.600 talked to someone I have an interest in them, and 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:05.640 I'm gonna go with that. I thought it was great, 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:08.240 and like I can imagine, felt really flattering on your part. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.320 Oh for sure. I mean it's a badass move and 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:12.480 that's nerve wracking coming down to the beach. You don't 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:16.000 know who's there, everyone's looking at you, and you have 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:17.800 a date card and there's a lot of pressure. So 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.440 she came in and I thought she was like she 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.760 handled herself really really well. And that was attractive to 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.439 me just to kind of see a strong, confident woman 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.800 saying exactly what she wants and she wanted me at 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:29.880 that point. So I've made me real good. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.240 No, that really that that came across. Okay, So you 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:36.360 guys go on the date. 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.000 And first you pull Kat oh okay, yeah, to have 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:39.679 a chat with her. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:41.640 That's a key part. I did pull Cat. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:45.080 That is a key part. We will not skim over that. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.920 Don't worry, har We know you pulled Kat to have 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.360 a conversation with her. Were you nervous going to that 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:54.360 conversation because honestly from and it's her birthday, it's her birthday. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:00.679 What an asshole she have her birthday that day? 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.600 I know, I know. And crazy story. I actually broke 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.840 up with my last girlfriend on her birthday too, So 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.480 this I know. I know. It's horrible. It's horrible. 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.320 Jesus should. 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.240 That information with people yourself? 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:20.120 All right? I didn't say that, but no, I mean, 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.280 obviously horrible, horrible timing with birthday. And obviously don't want 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.800 to ever hurt anybody, right, That's like the one thing 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:29.520 I never want to hurt anyone. But I was excited, I. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.400 Thought quick breaking up with people out of their birthday, 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.800 for one, So we're. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:36.120 Cutting that part out or striking from the record. 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.880 But yeah, so I pulled Cat, and you know, maybe 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.520 I should have pulled her first, had a conversation and 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.760 then decided, but I was so in the moment and 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.319 I was excited, so I responded pretty quickly. But I 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.800 thought I did the right thing by pulling Cat and 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:53.640 just letting her know where my head was at. And 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.560 I just wanted to let her know that, you know, 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.040 going on this date is going to give me clarity 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:00.440 either way. Right. It's it's one of those things where 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.000 it's if I go on the date with Dabia and 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.560 we have a shitty date and it sucks and we 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.400 don't like each other, then like great, and then come 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.559 back and Cat and I keep building something that was 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:13.640 already pretty strong, or like the opposite happens, right, So, uh, 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:17.640 you know, I say yes and yeah, so we'll see. 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:22.760 And what was what was Kat's response to basically you saying, like, 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:24.760 I'm going to go on this date? 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:28.880 She she wasn't happy. No, no, she was she was 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:29.760 not not happy. 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.720 I mean, what was her what was her reasoning for 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.000 not being what was her. Did she tell you, like, 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:36.280 I don't think you should go? 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.480 She didn't know, She didn't say that. She's like she said, 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.320 she was kind of passive aggressive in the way she 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.800 was saying, you know, go do your thing, whatever makes 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.240 you happy. And you know, it put me in a 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.480 bad situation too, because I wish that you would have 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.960 been somewhat understanding of the position I was in, but 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:53.920 there really was no understanding from her point, and she 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.880 kind of stormed off. So obviously no hard feelings at 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.000 that time. I went on and went on the date anyways, 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:00.720 but it was it was definitely tough because you don't 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.560 want to hurt anyone, and obviously it being her birthday, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.160 we planned on spending her birthday together at Paradise. So yeah, 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.800 just just bad timing all around there. 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:13.800 So was there anything that she could have said to 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.240 stop you from going on the date. 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.720 I don't think so, to be honest. At that point, 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.920 it was so early in our relationship and I wanted 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.320 to go on a date with Dabya. You know it 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.280 was she was a gorgeous girl that came down super excited, 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.760 and I knew we were gonna have fun. So I 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.680 don't think there's anything that Kat could have said that 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.080 it would stop me. But I thought of Kat maybe 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:37.840 handled it a little bit better. It could have maybe 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.280 had a better impression in my mind about about Kat right. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:42.960 The way she handled it, Like if she handled it 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:45.320 and the conversation had gone really well and she was 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.680 really understanding that, Yeah, you would have been attractive to 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.920 that quality and maybe a little more like you probably 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.400 still would have on the date but been like, oh, 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:56.960 like I'm excited to come back and talk to her. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:00.840 Yeh like left you with a good impression before you 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:01.200 went on the. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:06.240 Date and that. Okay, so you're having your date with 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.760 Davia now and it's from our point of view, it 0:16:09.760 --> 0:16:13.120 looks like it's going great. Could you talk a little 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.200 bit about just how it went and everything. 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.840 Yeah, I mean, uh, we went to dinner and we 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.840 had a beautiful conversation. Honestly, we were so engaged with 0:16:20.880 --> 0:16:23.000 each other and we shared a lot of deep things 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:27.120 about one another, and it was awesome. We really had, 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.360 you know, uninterrupted time to get to know each other, 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.480 and we were actually a lot more similar than when 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.760 we thought, you know, and we had a great dinner. Obviously, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.960 we had a little surprise on the rooftop after we 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:41.800 had a little private salsa band up there and we 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:46.000 danced the night away. And she's honestly a fantastic dancer. 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.560 Like I was gonna say, was she like a dancer 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.520 or ballerina or something, because like you guys did the 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.680 journey dance left, I was like, oh, she's like you 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:57.000 say she she's like the way she's holding her body, 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:58.760 she's done this before. 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:01.840 And I like that big dumb, strong guy like, yep, 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.680 I can do this part. But yeah, I don't know 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.200 if she was in ballet, but she was definitely a dancer. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:11.239 So I was just following her lead and we were 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.639 cracking up like we were having so much fun, and 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:15.840 it was honestly, it was a great, great night. It 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:16.400 was a great date. 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.280 So yeah, it looked like a lot of fun. 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:20.760 Yeah, we have a good time, all right. 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.720 So then what is give us like a percentage of 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.600 where is your mind at with who? After this date 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:30.880 you're leaning more towards dove. 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:32.600 Out, I mean like seventy. 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.240 Yeah, like where are you? 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.439 You know? I hate this about myself, but I'm very 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.359 indecisive and I try not to be, like I really like, 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.800 take me to cheesecake factory, and I'll crumble because if 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:49.639 there's too many options here but it's too big, like 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:53.600 give me eight entrees, it'll be good. But uh, But honestly, 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:57.320 between Cat and Doggya, they were so different, and and 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.200 Cat and I started off so strong, and I went 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.119 there to meet Cat, so that was always in the 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.520 back of my head, where you know, I came here 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:07.200