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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena and we are with none other than

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Speaker 1: Tanner from Vechelor in Paradise.

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Speaker 2: Tanner, what's up guys already? Thanks for having me on this.

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Speaker 1: Thanks of course, we got a lot we want to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about.

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Speaker 3: Is this your first time ever on We didn't have

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Speaker 3: you at Charities Mental hell did we?

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Speaker 2: No? No, it is my first time talking to you guys.

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Speaker 3: So welcome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was listening to you guys all all throughout

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Speaker 2: Charity Season with all my boys like Joey and Dawton on.

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Speaker 2: So this is cool nice?

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Speaker 1: Is this your first podcast?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 1: Is oh nice?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, you're my first, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Then it's a special moment, special moment for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's get into a little bit of your backstory.

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Speaker 1: How'd you how'd you get on Charity Season in the

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Speaker 1: first place?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I was just working, living in Pitts

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Speaker 2: living in Pittsburgh and uh my brother just signed me

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Speaker 2: up anonymously. He didn't even tell me he was doing it. So,

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Speaker 2: uh I got a ring them call from a from

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Speaker 2: a cruiter. They said, do you want to be on the show.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, like probably not, but

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Speaker 2: let's go through the process and kind of see what happens.

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Speaker 2: And obviously I made it to the end, and it

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Speaker 2: was one of those things where it was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, opportunity comes, you got to kind of go

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Speaker 2: that way, and obviously I was single at the time,

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Speaker 2: and so I said yes, and now we're here.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's the thing for a lot of people,

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Speaker 3: especially people that get nominated or like scouted, is it's

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Speaker 3: like do I want to be on the show?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: But do I want to see if I.

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Speaker 1: Could get on the show?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly, And then you.

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Speaker 3: Get to the end. It's such a lengthy process and

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Speaker 3: then the opportunity arises. You're like, well, am I really

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Speaker 3: going to say no to this? Like I did it,

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Speaker 3: I got on, Like it's such a once in a

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone. And

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Speaker 1: I put myself in this group of people that, like,

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Speaker 1: you almost don't want to admit to yourself that like

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Speaker 1: you're kind of intrigued, Like you're like, oh, like they

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Speaker 1: want me, yeah, wait, You're like your wall is instantly

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Speaker 1: up until they finally ask you, and then you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: I got to do it now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even all my friends were asking me, and I

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Speaker 2: kept I didn't really tell anybody I was even going

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Speaker 2: was kind of keeping it pretty close to my chest.

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Speaker 2: But towards the end, once I got the contract, I

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Speaker 1: So and are you still in Are you still in Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Pittsburgh, PA.

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Speaker 1: And what do you do for a living?

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Speaker 2: So I was I was a mortgage lender for the

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Speaker 2: past three years, and I've always been part time personal

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Speaker 2: training and working as a fitness instructor. But as of

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Speaker 2: two weeks ago, I finally quit my mortgage job and

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Speaker 2: I'm going fitness full time. So I'm super excited about it.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks. It's one of those things where it's like

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Speaker 2: So hopefully good things are coming.

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Speaker 1: Do you have like do you have a do you

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Speaker 1: have a gym? Do you have like a and him

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Speaker 1: where you teach classes?

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Speaker 2: I do. I don't own it, but I operated a

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Speaker 2: I also film like my YouTube channel there and my

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Speaker 3: So it'll be cool, big year, big year for Tanner. Well,

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Speaker 3: if you guys live in Pittsburgh, you know where to

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Speaker 3: find him. You know where to go get fit with Tanner.

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Speaker 1: I saw, I saw, yeah, I saw you were in uh,

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Speaker 1: I saw you were in New York and you did

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Speaker 1: that like five You ran like five miles through Central Park, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is the I love the run. I

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Speaker 1: Nice, nice, Yeah, I'm doing the marathon and let's go.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that goes. But yeah, all the money like

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Speaker 2: How are you? How are your knees? Everything? Okay, my

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Speaker 3: I'll be at the end with the sign.

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Speaker 2: And me too, I'll be at the end. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into uh, let's get into paradise.

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Speaker 1: Were you were you excited? Were you shocked when they

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Speaker 1: ask you? Were you hesitant? And all? To go back on?

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Speaker 2: You know, it was a full day. I was in

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Speaker 3: You guys are it's like quick turnaround, but I guess

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Speaker 3: it makes sense with the guy seduling for filming exactly.

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Speaker 2: So I you know, I was definitely shocked. I was like,

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Speaker 2: But once I found out, you know that some of

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Speaker 2: And again, I'm a yes man. I usually say yes

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of women right now that are

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Speaker 1: like you've been like one of the number one guys.

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Speaker 1: Have been waiting to see who on your end? Have

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Like who was your list when they asked who you

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean I even told Kat, I said

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Speaker 1: So okay, so you go down and you first grab

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Speaker 1: at least we see, so you first grabbed Jess. How

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Speaker 2: Yeah? For me, Jess was kind of hard to read

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Speaker 2: I don't know that spark, you know that right off,

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Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, so obviously I chose Kat.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So so you choose so you choose Kat, and

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Speaker 2: I obviously asked about Braiden, and she said that they

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Speaker 1: and then we see all the cat braid and stuff

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I tried to try my best to stay out

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Speaker 1: Smart, I mean smart. Okay, So now we get Cat.

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Speaker 1: You and Cat are kind of you're basically together for

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Speaker 1: paradise terms before Davia comes down, What is your what

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Speaker 3: Where are you at? Like? Are you like, oh, this

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Speaker 2: No? She was on the same page, yeah, saying we

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Speaker 2: We're there to meet people, were there to date, so

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So Davia comes down, she asked, I want

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Speaker 2: A little bit? She didn't say specifically when we had

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Speaker 1: So how did you feel when she said, Tanner, I

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Speaker 2: I got super excited, man, I said yes right away.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I mean it's a badass move and

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Speaker 1: No, that really that that came across. Okay, So you

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Speaker 3: Don't worry, har We know you pulled Kat to have

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Speaker 3: conversation because honestly from and it's her birthday, it's her birthday.

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Speaker 1: What an asshole she have her birthday that day?

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Speaker 2: I know, I know. And crazy story. I actually broke

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Speaker 2: this I know. I know. It's horrible. It's horrible.

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Speaker 1: Jesus should.

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Speaker 3: That information with people yourself?

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I pulled Cat, and you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to let her know that, you know,

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Speaker 2: either way. Right. It's it's one of those things where

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Speaker 2: She didn't know, She didn't say that. She's like she said,

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Speaker 2: but it was it was definitely tough because you don't

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Speaker 2: we planned on spending her birthday together at Paradise. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: So was there anything that she could have said to

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, to be honest. At that point,

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Speaker 2: to go on a date with Dabya. You know it

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Speaker 2: don't think there's anything that Kat could have said that

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Speaker 3: The way she handled it, Like if she handled it

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Speaker 3: Yeh like left you with a good impression before you

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Speaker 1: Date and that. Okay, so you're having your date with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, uh, we went to dinner and we

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Speaker 3: Like I was gonna say, was she like a dancer

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Speaker 2: And I like that big dumb, strong guy like, yep,

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Speaker 2: it was honestly, it was a great, great night. It

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it looked like a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like where are you?

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Speaker 2: You know? I hate this about myself, but I'm very

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Speaker 2: there's too many options here but it's too big, like

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Speaker 1: See, I would have thought you would have been like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had spent like three days with that, so

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Speaker 2: I mean it was tough, and especially because like I

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Speaker 2: Cat and I can get there. Right, So it's it

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Speaker 2: I was fifty to fifty in those moments. It was

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Speaker 1: Okay, so then you get you get down, you guys

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Speaker 1: the teaser that you end up Pulley Cat have that conversation.

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Speaker 1: So we can't talk about that. But what are you

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Speaker 3: Oh? Hey, I have a question. So yeah, did you

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I don't think we didn't see anybody on

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's yeah, that would have been part two my question.

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Speaker 3: So it looked like the way it was all showed

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's exactly what happened.

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00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so you came down I'm assuming correct me if

439
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:51,120
Speaker 3: I'm wrong. After Kat and Davia had had their morning

440
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,680
Speaker 3: chat about.

441
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 2: Correct, yep, yep. I had no idea that they talked

442
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 2: at that moment, but yeah, they had already spoke when.

443
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,400
Speaker 3: You pulled Kat, Did you know that Davia and her

444
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 3: had already had a conversation.

445
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, I don't even I wasn't

446
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: even thinking about that, to be honest, I was just

447
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 2: kind of laser focused on the conversation I was about

448
00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: to have with Kat, you know.

449
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 3: And going into that conversation, how did you feel, you know?

450
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 2: I would I wouldn't say I was conflicted because I

451
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: made up, made my decision and I went with it.

452
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:21,640
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I didn't want

453
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,439
Speaker 2: to have to hurt anybody, and I knew that Cat

454
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: was into me in that moment, so I was nervous

455
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,120
Speaker 2: to have the conversation, But with the conversation you need

456
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:30,919
Speaker 2: to be had, you know.

457
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 1: But did you did you talk to any of your

458
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,240
Speaker 1: boys before that and kind of try to get the

459
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: temperature of what happened the night before, what was going

460
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,120
Speaker 1: on with Kat?

461
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. I actually talked to Braiden, of

462
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 2: all guys in the room a little bit about it. Uh,

463
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 2: that that next morning, because when Dogby and I got

464
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 2: back from our date, everyone was pretty much asleep. So yeah,

465
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: I woke up the next day, talked to the boys

466
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 2: and the room. I was talking to a then talking

467
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 2: to Tyler, talking to Braiden a bit, and you know,

468
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they gave me any advice that

469
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 2: made me kind of go either way, just kind of

470
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 2: following my heart in that moment. But your boy had

471
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 2: to do what he had to do, you know. Wow.

472
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,960
Speaker 3: So pulling cat aside that morning, and you know, obviously

473
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 3: we're going to see how the conversation unfolds, But what

474
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: are your intentions and your kind of like mental game

475
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 3: plan going into this conversation with her? Like what do

476
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 3: you want to tell her?

477
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? I was going to tell her exactly where my

478
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 2: heart was, and I was going to try to just

479
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 2: try to stay calm as possible, you know, I'd try to.

480
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 2: I pride myself, I'm not getting too high or too low.

481
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: So I was just trying to stay calm, cool and

482
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: collected and just let her know exactly where I was,

483
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 2: exactly why I went on the date, where I thought

484
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 2: we were in that moment, and where I thought we

485
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 2: could go, So just trying to wrap my head around

486
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 2: all that so I can kind of tell her the

487
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: best way possible.

488
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: So did you know where Davia stood before going into

489
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: that conversation?

490
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: Uh?

491
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 2: Not really, I mean, there wasn't it. We didn't confirm anything,

492
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 2: we didn't really talk about it, but we knew we

493
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: had a really good night and I felt like the

494
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 2: energy was there and it was you know, we just

495
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: had a really fun time and we were kind of

496
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: meeting each other halfway, so I didn't feel like I

497
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: had to ask her where we were. I kind of

498
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: felt like I knew that in that moment.

499
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, were you ever? And I mean like, obviously Kat

500
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 3: is not a scary person, but were you Were you

501
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: scared or nervous about her response going into the conversation

502
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: just because the first combo of just going on the

503
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 3: date hadn't gone well and now you're about to have

504
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 3: a second conversation.

505
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 2: Yes, he was, yeh, I mean a little bit. I

506
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 2: mean I am scared of Cat. I was. I was

507
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: scared of Cat in that moment, you know, especially because

508
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: Kat was super tight with all the girls in the

509
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 2: beach too, so you know, if I rubbed her the

510
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 2: wrong way, she could, you know, kind of room my

511
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: reputation with the other girls or something like that. So

512
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: that was kind of on my mind where I didn't

513
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 2: want to hurt her, but I also didn't want to

514
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 2: like room when you know, the reputation that I had

515
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 2: on the beach.

516
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to feel like you're like public

517
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: enemy number one now with the.

518
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly exactly. So trying trying to play both sides.

519
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: It's kind of tough.

520
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 1: And we see we see a lot of we see

521
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things go down on this episode. What

522
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the other couples on the beach?

523
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 3: Let's talk through some of the.

524
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: Couple somebody else really, yeah.

525
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: We really do. On your situation, let's talk what is

526
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: your what are your thoughts? Because we see, just for

527
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: the first time, kind of open up that Blake is

528
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: not really her number one.

529
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 3: Well she says she he is her number one, but

530
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: with a lot of hesitancy and basically is just like

531
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: he's my strongest connection number or like that's basically the

532
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 3: tone is like there's no one else that I have

533
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 3: a connection with, so because of that, he's my number one.

534
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: And we're kind of just starting to see their relationship.

535
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to say crumble, but I feel like

536
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 3: they're finally being like tested, yeah, tested. What was your

537
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 3: take on their relationship at this point?

538
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: At this point, I mean, it seemed from me a

539
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: pretty surface level. You know. I saw other relationships that

540
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: were that were developing and getting stronger, and I can

541
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 2: see them interacting, and it seemed like it would work.

542
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: At times when I would look like see Blake and Jess,

543
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: it looked like it was pretty surface level, almost like

544
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: you know, this is my boyfriend, this is my girlfriend,

545
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: and we're gonna sit next to each other, right, So,

546
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: but I don't know how many behind closed doors or

547
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: you know, elsewhere on the beach. I don't know what

548
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: their conversations are looking like. But from from my.

549
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: Thing, that's the thing. On the beach, there really are

550
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: no closed doors, so what you see is usually correct. Yeah,

551
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: you know.

552
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: That's very true.

553
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: So then in contrast to yeah, I feel like that

554
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 3: is what we're seeing as viewers. But it is interesting

555
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 3: to hear that.

556
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask you, who.

557
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 3: Do oh I got a question for me?

558
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: Okay, because I want to hear I want I want

559
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: Tanner's opinion on this who at this point do you

560
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: think is Serena do you think is the strongest couple

561
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: on the beach.

562
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to go Kylie and Evan.

563
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: So I think the strongest couple on the beach right

564
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: now is is Aaron b and Eliza who who in

565
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: your opinion, is the strongest at this point.

566
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: I gotta go with you, Joe. I gotta go with you.

567
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not not taking anything again.

568
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: That was like my pickers off, I'm not as good

569
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 3: as they used to be. So now he's feeling pretty

570
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: good about himself.

571
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 2: Joe had me go and top four in the Bachelorette too,

572
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: and I was one off. I couldn't make them proud.

573
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: Let me down, Let me down, Tanner, Yeah.

574
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm sorry man. But and Eliza, I love them at

575
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 2: that point, like they were just they just look great

576
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: together and I love their energy and like he respected

577
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 2: her so much, So like at that point, I thought

578
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: that was the strongest. Even even Aaron said it a

579
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,239
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. He's like, you know, if anyone's going

580
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 2: the distance, he thought it was going to be them,

581
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I gotta go with you, Joe. But even

582
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: and Kylie like that, next that next strongest couple for sure.

583
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: Okay, gotcha.

584
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

585
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: I feel like Eliza and Aaron did have that like

586
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 3: test of her going on that date with John Bee

587
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: and her coming back, and I feel like when that

588
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: does happen, it like really solidifies a couple if you

589
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: can kind of get through that. And she came back

590
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: and was like, Nah, it's you.

591
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, or you do it, or you don't.

592
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: Don't do it, don't do what I do, what not

593
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: to do.

594
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 3: Either thing is a good thing, though, because you either

595
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 3: come back and you know one way or the other.

596
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 3: It brings you that clarity.

597
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: And then what about what about Tyler and Mercedes? Because

598
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: we see Mercedes make out with John Henry and then

599
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: we do see in the super teaser that Jack Tyler

600
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: and Jess hook Opper makeout. So what is their relationship

601
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: status because that has to be surface level in my opinion.

602
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: You know, it didn't seem that way to me at

603
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: that point. It looked like Tyler and Mercedes were actually

604
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: hitting it off. And I really didn't see Tyler pursuing

605
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: anybody else on the beach, and I didn't and I

606
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: talked to Mercedes a few times. She's a good friend

607
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: of mine at that point in the in the show,

608
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: and it didn't seem like she was really pursuing anybody

609
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: else either, so it seemed like there was something there,

610
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: but they were probably just not exclusive yet, so I

611
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: guess we'll see how it plays out. But yeah, and.

612
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: Were you said to see how Sewn leave sew Well,

613
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: Sean Sean's technically at this point, you and Sean went

614
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: against each other in the in the tu on one.

615
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you guys did do the two one. Who

616
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 3: are your closest friends on the beach You can include Sean, Aaron,

617
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: and Well in that even though we just saw them.

618
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: Leave, gotcha. Yeah, when John Henry and John B showed up,

619
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, let's go my boys here, but

620
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 2: definitely Sean. I mean I was blessed. I mean all

621
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: my guys for my show, for my season were on

622
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: the beach, right, So yeah, I mean it was really

623
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: only Tyler, Avan and Blake that really weren't and Will,

624
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I hate to give you the

625
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: answer that I liked everyone, but I really do. So.

626
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so funny because when we had Joey on

627
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: way back when at the beginning of Charity season, He

628
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 3: also said John Henry's name, and I feel like we're

629
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: just getting to know John Henry now as viewers, but

630
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 3: he seems to be very well liked amongst them.

631
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: John Henry is a nervous wreck, which understandable. I was like, yeah,

632
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: I was like that when I was first in the showing.

633
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: I see him shake, I'm like, oh, but you could

634
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: tell he's probably very social and personable, but he just

635
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: he has stage train at the beginning.

636
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: Is that accurate?

637
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: You know? He's he's so dry, So like the more

638
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 2: you're around him, you kind of pick up on his

639
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: humor and then all of a sudden, everything that comes

640
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: out of his mouth it's hilarious. So he's kind of

641
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: one of those so you kind of have to be

642
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: around him for a while he has to warm up

643
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: to you. But he's just a good human being. I

644
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: love John Henry.

645
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm not very dry.

646
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: You're not very dry.

647
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: Now.

648
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: Do you feel like it helps or hurts the guys

649
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 3: when all of them are friends and buddies, because we

650
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: do talk a lot about like the guys coming down

651
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: and like they grow out and that ends up being

652
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: like to their detriment, and also then the guys don't

653
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 3: want to like step on each other's toes. You know,

654
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 3: like you just said, John Henry's one of your friends.

655
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: We see in the super Tease cat going after John Henry. Like,

656
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: does it create kind of a weird dynamic.

657
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: A little bit. I would say it created a lot

658
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 2: weirder of a dynamic for the girls actually. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: even though us guys were super close, I felt like

660
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: we we knew the roles of like Paradise, right, we're

661
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: there to date, we're there to meet people. Yeah, we're

662
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: eventually gonna step on each other's toes, but there was

663
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: always kind of a respect factor there too. Where the girls.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the girls actually shut

665
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: themselves off to dating anybody else because they maybe kissed

666
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: one of their friends and they were really treating Paradise

667
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: almost like you're out at a bar and like, you know,

668
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 2: someone's talking to your friend, where you know, it's not

669
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: really like that. We're on the reality dating show. We're

670
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: supposed to be dating people and meeting people. So I

671
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: feel like it actually hurt the girls more than hurt

672
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: the guys because some of the girls really just like

673
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 2: close themselves off.

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00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you have to have. I feel

675
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Speaker 1: like you have to have a conversation with your friends

676
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: going into that show of like, hey, my my number

677
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: one goal here is to meet someone, so like, yeah.

678
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Speaker 3: But you just never know how it's going to go

679
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 3: till you get down there. Like Abigail and I didn't

680
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 3: have that conversation, and like we never needed to. We

681
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: went for different guys. We're interested in different guys, and

682
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 3: I feel like you kind of hope that's how it's

683
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: going to go. And I feel like this season we're

684
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 3: seeing a little more crossover, a little more like, you know,

685
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: people worried about exploring and stepping on each other's toes

686
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: than maybe we've seen in the past. But that's interesting

687
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: that it was the girls this season.

688
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: That's why there's a truth box, and that's why there's

689
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: the truth.

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00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: Truth, the truth box, the truth box. But yeah, that

691
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: truth box is crazy.

692
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: It was you weren't there for truth and dare the truth? There?

693
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: You were on your day with dab right, Yeah, yeah,

694
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 3: I was dancing the night away. You're dancing the night away.

695
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we're gonna we're gonna jump in.

696
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna play a quick game Tanner before we do, though,

697
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: I want to ask you have any any regrets?

698
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 2: No? Okay, zero, I didn't think so.

699
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: You don't strike me as a guy that regrets things.

700
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: I got a tattooed on my arm.

701
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: Not kidding, I have no regrets.

702
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: Do you do you want to do what you want

703
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: me to do?

704
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: It?

705
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: You do it?

706
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: Joe?

707
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: All right, rabbit fire. Are you more of an introvert

708
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: or extrovert?

709
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm introverted extrovert to be honest.

710
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: Okay, already breaking the rules. What would you what would

711
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: what would be your go to paradise cocktail?

712
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 2: Oh, it depends on the time of day. Sorry, It's

713
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: supposed to be one word answers. It depends on the

714
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: time of day. It goes early to be Mimosa with Rachel,

715
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: and if it's anytime past like two pm, probably tequila

716
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: soda a lot.

717
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Okay. What is the first thing you would buy if

718
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: you won the lottery?

719
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 2: You can answer this so many different ways. Probably real estate,

720
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: probably by real estate be rich forever, and by beach

721
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: house too.

722
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: What all time favorite Taylor Swift song?

723
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: You know I'm actually a new Swifty. I used to

724
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: love Taylor Swift. I'm kind of getting back into it.

725
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: I love Cardigan Cardigan.

726
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that is a good one.

727
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: It's so good. I listen to that Song's gonna love.

728
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: That Sean Johnson Swifty. He said it eighteen hundred times

729
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: in the show. What is one item on your bucket list?

730
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of this is out of my control.

731
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: But the Steelers ever go to the Super Bowl, I'm

732
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: gonna go see them with it. Steelers, Well, they say

733
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: it might not be for a while, Joe, but we'll see. Well,

734
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: I'm a Bears fan, so you're similar.

735
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: In this recent episodes have done his absolute best to

736
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: integrate football into every single podcast. We go back and

737
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: listen to our last like six episodes. Somehow Joe has

738
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 3: found a way to brant football just so funny belist.

739
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: The Steelers have have been in the past ten years,

740
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: They've they've made the playoffs a few times, right, Yeah.

741
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean Mike Tommins never had a losing season. I mean,

742
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: we kind of had a lot of good teams that

743
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: didn't win anything. But I don't know, We're used to

744
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 2: winning championships in Pittsburgh, so it's been it's been bad recently.

745
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: We're not in Chicago. Do you have any dating deal breakers.

746
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: Not not really. I mean I like to exercise and

747
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 2: like live like a healthy life, so they that needs

748
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: to be a priority for my girl for sure.

749
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: What is your love language?

750
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: It is access service.

751
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: What is your favorite dessert?

752
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 2: Favorite dessert? I like like a like a hot brown

753
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: like chocolate brownie with like vanilla ice cream, a little

754
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: hot and cold.

755
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: Do you think you will end up breaking up with

756
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: somebody on their birthday in the future, I would never do.

757
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: What is What is the important item to pack for paradise.

758
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: I've heard people say this in the past, but for me,

759
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: it's one hundred percent sure. It was bug spray. I

760
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: got killed with the bugs. Like if you if you

761
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 2: watch the show, if you pay attention to my back

762
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 2: at any point in time, like I had huge welts

763
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 2: all over my back then, that's sorry.

764
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: Crazy. So our season, the weather was too insanely hot,

765
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: like it was brutal. The only good thing about that

766
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: is we had no bugs. But we came back the

767
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: following year and did a little visit and I was

768
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 3: getting eaten alive. I was like, what is going on?

769
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: The weather is beautiful, but I'm like covered in bug bites.

770
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the worst.

771
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad for us. And it wasn't too

772
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: hot for us either. Down there. It wasn't nice.

773
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, lucky it was hot in our season.

774
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: We had made a couple of hot nights like that.

775
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: The last road ceremony, I was dripping sweat. It looked disgusting,

776
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, the worst.

777
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: All right, Tanner, thank you, thank you for coming on

778
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: a Happy Hour.

779
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Thanks yeah, thanks very thanks Joe.

780
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate you, guys, and thank you everyone for tuning in.

781
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: And remember new episodes of Bachelor and Paradise here every

782
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: Thursday on ABC at nine to eighth Central following the

783
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: Golden Bachelor, or you can stream them both the next

784
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: day on Hulu.

785
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: And make sure to tune into new episodes of Bachelor

786
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: Happy Hour every single week. We're gonna have some great

787
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: guests on and we've got all kinds of exclusive interviews

788
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 3: coming up, so do not forget to subscribe.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again everyone, and see you next time. Bye,