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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the second hour Clay and Buck on this Monday,

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Speaker 2: and Wow, it is a lot of change, a lot

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Speaker 2: of change. We are processing right now here the big

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Speaker 2: breaking news right before we came on air. Just to

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Speaker 2: bring everybody up to speed in case you're joining us

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Speaker 2: in progress, Tucker Carlson has parted ways with Fox News,

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Speaker 2: a massive, a seismic shift over at Fox and we

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Speaker 2: don't know much of the backstory.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into some of that here in a second.

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Speaker 2: Don Lemon the New York Post headline here Lemon drop

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Speaker 2: Don Lemon out at CNN the same day, Clay and

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Speaker 2: I seeing this one eye to eye, thinking that this

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Speaker 2: is a shakeup over at CNN that came about the

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Speaker 2: moment they saw an opportunity.

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Speaker 3: What is it in race car?

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Speaker 2: Is drafting when you stay behind somebody who is breaking

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Speaker 2: the you know, it's sort of a wind breaking out.

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Speaker 3: Of you, right drafting off the car.

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Speaker 2: A little bit like that with this with this move, like,

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Speaker 2: oh okay, well we'll just sort of fold this one

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Speaker 2: in because the Tucker move is size McDon Lemon not

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Speaker 2: going to make any difference to CNN with his ouster.

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Speaker 2: And also note by the way, NBC's CEO is gone.

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Speaker 4: That's right, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 3: NBC. Hold on, we got a few NBC CEO is out.

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Speaker 3: I mean, is you know, is you know? Is it

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Speaker 3: mercury in retrograde or something?

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Speaker 2: For the astrology folks out there, something weird is in

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Speaker 2: the air. NBC Universal is his CEO is out for

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Speaker 2: an inappropriate relationship with a CNBC staffer.

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Speaker 3: That was just announced this morning.

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Speaker 2: The bud Light marketing executive in charge of the Dylan

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Speaker 2: mulvaney campaign, now that was announced over the weekend. To

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Speaker 2: be clear, she's out, but another marketing exec at bud

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Speaker 2: Light is now also on leave of absence, which means

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Speaker 2: slow firing, means shut up, We'll keep paying you until

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Speaker 2: the end of your contract.

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Speaker 3: And that's what leave of absence means in this case.

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Speaker 2: I think, so a lot of a lot of change,

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Speaker 2: a lot of I mean, look, these are I have

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Speaker 2: to assume that the situation with Tucker, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: would like to think that it was a mutual sit down,

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Speaker 2: with all the respect that their anchor at eight PM,

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Speaker 2: who I think did a phenomenal job for them deserves.

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Speaker 2: But I know that his show staff thought they were

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Speaker 2: doing a show tonight. So this was very sudden, which

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Speaker 2: to me means that this was the decision that they

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Speaker 2: made from on high, and it just came down from

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Speaker 2: on high. It was not a mutually agreed upon situation

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Speaker 2: in that regard, Right, it's still it's still yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: we don't know.

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Speaker 5: It still could be mutually agreed upon, right, Tucker, whatever

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Speaker 5: he was, let's let's start here.

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Speaker 4: Let's I always like to do.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't mutually expected we could.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's fair.

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Speaker 5: I always like to start with Let's pretend that you

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Speaker 5: were the agent involved in this story, Like, right, Let's

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Speaker 5: pretend that you had dollars at stake if I were

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Speaker 5: advising Tucker Carlson whatever his salary is at Fox News,

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Speaker 5: And let's just let's toss out that he's making tens

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Speaker 5: of millions of.

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Speaker 4: Dollars a year.

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Speaker 5: He's underpaid in the current media environment, by which I

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Speaker 5: mean this, if he goes out and starts his own

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Speaker 5: media company, he could build I believe, a billion dollar

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Speaker 5: media brand.

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Speaker 4: Right, And so.

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Speaker 5: If I am Tucker's agent, and I'm sure he's fielding

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Speaker 5: the agent is an unbelievable bevy of inquiries right now,

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Speaker 5: If I am Tucker's agent, I'm saying, Hey, You're gonna

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Speaker 5: be fine because you are such a media talent that

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Speaker 5: you have the ability to do lots of things. And

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Speaker 5: let's keep in mind, in his career, Tucker has worked

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Speaker 5: at CNN, MSNBC, and now Fox News, and so he's

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Speaker 5: now left all three of those And when he took

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Speaker 5: he's going to be able to step in and handle this,

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Speaker 5: and he took that time slot to a new level

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Speaker 5: of success. So, if I'm Tucker's agent right now, and

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Speaker 5: you have the opportunity to be a free agent in

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Speaker 5: the media marketplace, I want him to be a free

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Speaker 5: agent in the media.

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Speaker 2: Market He only really has the option to be where

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Speaker 2: he would to get his value. Yes, he would have

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Speaker 2: to do what you said, would just start his own

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Speaker 2: entity or join forces with an entity where he became effectively.

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Speaker 2: In media terms, we call it the tent pole, like

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Speaker 2: the big name that holds up you know the rest

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Speaker 2: of it, right. I mean, when when I when I

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Speaker 2: was hired at the Blaze, the tent Pole and the

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Speaker 2: founder was Glenn Beck, right, I mean he was the

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Speaker 2: big name that then created opportunity for many of the

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Speaker 2: rest of us to get into the news and commentary business.

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Speaker 2: Always I always say thank you to Glenn for that.

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Speaker 2: I'm always grateful to Glenn for that. And and Clay.

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Speaker 2: Right now, this is interesting, This is interesting, and and

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing some media reporters putting this out there because

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Speaker 2: I think the first touch thought that people would have

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Speaker 2: on this one, the first past thought people would have,

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Speaker 2: is it's got to be a related to the dominion lawsuit, right,

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Speaker 2: because that just came down. Yeah, but there are and

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Speaker 2: this already came out, there are anchors at Fox who

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Speaker 2: have received more heat for the dominion issue than Tucker did.

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Speaker 2: In fact way it showed way more. What it showed

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Speaker 2: is that Tucker started to you know, earlier than some

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Speaker 2: of the others said, Ah, this is not something's not

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Speaker 2: smelling right here. There's a problem here with some of

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Speaker 2: this analysis, right, you know, the Kraken is not being unleashed, folks, Like,

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Speaker 2: something's going on here. So it's not dominion if you

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Speaker 2: think that that, you know, if you look up the

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Speaker 2: the timeline of who said what and when? So then

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Speaker 2: it gets into well, what the heck is it?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean the number one rated show and a lot

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Speaker 2: of The Five. I mean, Clay is a Fox employee.

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Speaker 2: The Five does phenomenally well in a lot of nights,

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Speaker 2: so to be fair, and Shawn Show is number one

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Speaker 2: some night. So it's really been a you know, it's

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Speaker 2: either Seawn Show, Tucker Show, or The Five has the

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Speaker 2: biggest ratings on any given night over at Fox. But

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Speaker 2: if it's not dominion, I mean that when you talked

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Speaker 2: about a politics thing, I don't I don't think that

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Speaker 2: that's what this is.

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Speaker 3: It's an interesting theory, but I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 4: Well, you don't know.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of information you don't know. So for instance,

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Speaker 5: how many years did Tucker have left on his contract?

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Speaker 5: Tucker knows, his agent knows, Fox knows. There's probably relatively

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Speaker 5: few people who know. So sometimes you have conversations about

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Speaker 5: where are you going in the future as those contracts

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Speaker 5: are coming up, right, That's commonplace in media. What I

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Speaker 5: just circle back around to is for Tucker, if his

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Speaker 5: goal is just to maximize revenue and maximize earnings, you

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Speaker 5: don't want to be an employee, right if I'm advised

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Speaker 5: him again as an agent, and so I think Tucker

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Speaker 5: is going to be totally fine.

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Speaker 4: What do you got for?

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Speaker 3: So I'm in a tweet from Justin Hart.

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Speaker 2: You know this guy from Twitter, he's you know, one

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Speaker 2: of he's got a let me see, he's got the

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty thousand followers blue.

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Speaker 5: Now you gotta be super you gotta be super careful now,

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Speaker 5: like what's what's real and what's not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not, by the way, I'm not a

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Speaker 2: blue check absolutist like a lot of these other people.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually happy to pay eight dollars a month. Eight

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Speaker 2: I don't understand people they're saying, oh, well my blue check. Well,

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Speaker 2: that's actually the Libs who are saying it. I want

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Speaker 2: to support the new Twitter. I want a free speech

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Speaker 2: social media platform. We have to fight for this stuff,

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Speaker 2: and that means paying for and supporting this stuff. But okay,

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Speaker 2: this guy, Justin Hart put this out there again.

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Speaker 3: I'm attributing it.

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Speaker 2: I do not know, but this is already It's going

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Speaker 2: pretty viral here pretty fast. His set, he says that

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Speaker 2: his sources are telling him Tucker was all set to

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Speaker 2: go live tonight. He probably had plans to talk about

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Speaker 2: the lawsuit and clear his name. Producers were prepping guests

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Speaker 2: and slots of Monday Show. Corporate nicks the idea I suppose.

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Speaker 2: I suppose I Tucker speaking to the lawsuit and what happened,

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Speaker 2: and Tucker up and quit. That is what has been

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Speaker 2: reported by Justin Hart of Twitter. Just to be clear

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Speaker 2: about his Now, I do know from other sources that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so no one knew there, so it was very sudden.

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Speaker 2: So that would then the suddenness of it could be

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Speaker 2: that he said this is what I'm doing tonight. There

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Speaker 2: how he was going to address it, and you know

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Speaker 2: Tucker is a is.

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Speaker 3: A ballsy fellow. Well, it would also he may have

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Speaker 5: It would also go to just his knowledge of his

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Speaker 5: value on the larger marketplace.

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Speaker 4: And in that if you and look, this is all

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Speaker 2: No bigger platform, thow this is the thing, There's no

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Speaker 4: As a conservative, I totally understand all of that.

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Speaker 5: And trust me, when I started out kick a decade ago,

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Speaker 5: people said, that's crazy that you're going to try to

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Speaker 5: go in any way out on your own. I just

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Speaker 5: think the power of traditional media in general is not

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Speaker 5: what it has been in the past.

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Speaker 4: And I think you can just point to other people.

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Speaker 5: Meghan Kelly is now having a really successful career renaissance,

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Speaker 5: I would say by being able to go out entirely

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Speaker 5: on her own and just be honest every day. When

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Speaker 5: she got fired at NBC, what did everybody say, her

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Speaker 5: career's over? How is she ever going to come back

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Speaker 5: from this? And I think she's a perfect example of

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Speaker 5: someone that had the Fox News platform and then had

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Speaker 5: the platform that exists on NBC News for a morning show,

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Speaker 5: got fired, they tossed her on the scrap heap. I

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Speaker 5: would argue she's at a career like Apex now in

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Speaker 2: Making those kinds of decisions when you get a seventy

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Speaker 2: million dollar check does become quite a bit easier.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think.

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Speaker 5: But to that point, also, I don't think Tucker's hurting

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Speaker 5: for money and I guarantee you that his phone is

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Speaker 5: blowing up with opportunities out there.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 5: We don't know anything about the behind the scenes. All

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Speaker 5: we've said is I did the show Friday.

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Speaker 3: Do you right now? Do you think Tucker quit? Do

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Speaker 3: you think that they said no you can't, and he.

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Speaker 2: Said, I actually have last editorial say and it's my.

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Speaker 3: Way or the hot Do you think he quit?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 5: I don't think you would do it in one fit

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Speaker 5: of peak, if that makes sense. I think if Tucker quit,

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Speaker 5: then Tucker was already thinking about what's next, right. I

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in Crazy Breaking News Day, Tucker Carlson out

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Speaker 1: Plade Travis and Buck Sexton on the truck Lines of Truth.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Clay and Buck.

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Speaker 2: We are making sense of a lot of change that

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Speaker 5: seventeen years of fake news as the final statement they

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Speaker 5: will probably make on his career. Now, To be fair

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Speaker 5: to Don Lemon, they probably gave a tip to Don

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Speaker 5: Lemon through his agent, Hey, you're going to be fired,

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Speaker 5: but we're happy to have the you know, like, let's

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Speaker 5: shake hands and pretend everything is fine on the way out.

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Speaker 5: So not to defend Don Lemon, but if your agent

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Speaker 5: has let you know, hey, you're going to be fired,

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Speaker 5: and then they want to meet with you to tell

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Speaker 5: you that they're firing you, look, I mean I don't

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Speaker 5: know about you, but I don't have a lot of

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Speaker 5: desire to go sit across the table from somebody when

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Speaker 5: the decision has already been made and be told after

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Speaker 5: the fact that you're being fired.

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Speaker 2: There's no benefit. It reminds me of remember in Moneyball. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when he's like he's like, you know, Joe, you're a

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Speaker 2: good player and we wish you the best. Like that's

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Speaker 2: how you fired. P's you know what else he gonna do.

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Speaker 5: The last time I got fired, I actually had my

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Speaker 5: phone turned off. This was like when I started out

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Speaker 5: kick twelve or thirteen years ago. Uh, and the entire

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Speaker 5: company basically shut down. And so when I turned my

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Speaker 5: phone back on, my phone had blown up and I

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Speaker 5: didn't have a job anymore. So this is not uncommon

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Speaker 5: in media. For again, it's a little bit like being

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Speaker 5: a coach in sports. Even great coaches typically get fired.

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Speaker 5: And uh, and so I always look at it as, hey,

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Speaker 5: when one door is closing, what opportunities are out there

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Speaker 5: to you? Tucker's opportunities are endless. But so here's what

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Speaker 5: I think is is, Yeah, Tucker's fine. He's great. You know,

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Speaker 5: he can call either of us. And we talked to

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Speaker 5: him all day about all the things to collaborate with

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Speaker 5: him on. And you know, he's he's built a lot

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Speaker 5: of goodwill in the conservative media ecosystem for the people

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Speaker 5: that he's had on the show, the people that he

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Speaker 5: you know, brought up and trained at the at the

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Speaker 5: Daily Caller. You know, I know some guys who have built,

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Speaker 5: you know, built without successful media careers, started at The Caller,

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Speaker 5: which was, by the way, its a fun Do you

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Speaker 5: ever do you ever go to their office in DC?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: I mean he's at frat house, but it was a

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Speaker 5: fun place. He's already That's my point on like starting

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Speaker 5: a media company. I don't know what they sold Daily

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Speaker 5: Caller for, but Tucker had a good exit already in

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Speaker 5: one media compsy, so he's he's.

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Speaker 3: Got all that.

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Speaker 2: But I'm I'm thinking along the lines of what is

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Speaker 2: this telling us about how the how the conversation is

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Speaker 2: going to be for twenty twenty four. I mean, we're

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Speaker 2: right in this primary right now, we're just.

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Speaker 3: Just beginning to see how this is going to shape up.

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Speaker 2: We're about to enter a more you know, a more

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Speaker 2: contentious part of the primary, and Tucker is gone. And

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Speaker 2: if this had anything to do with dominion, which we

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Speaker 2: don't know to be clear, but if it had anything

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Speaker 2: to do with dominion in this calculation, which I think.

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Speaker 3: Most people right now have put.

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Speaker 2: It, it's going to affect that, you know, what are

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Speaker 2: what are people allowed? What are people allowed to say?

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Speaker 2: What are you going to get in trouble for?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 2: Are you going to get sued for and possibly get

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Speaker 2: some huge judgment against you. I think that there could

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Speaker 2: be a chilling effect, of course, only on the right,

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Speaker 2: because we live in a world of double standards, and

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Speaker 2: we live in a world where the left does things

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Speaker 2: unfairly because they think they're better than us, so they

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Speaker 2: should be unfair.

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Speaker 3: They don't walk away from it.

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Speaker 2: I think there could be some real implications here for

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Speaker 2: what this means for conservative media in the established outlets

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Speaker 2: that are big targets for lawsuits. And I think I'll bring

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Speaker 2: this up is you know, does anyone think that if

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Speaker 2: you're at a major network right now, you are going

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Speaker 2: to be able to speak about whatever you think happened

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty whatever that may be. By the way,

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Speaker 2: like Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 3: Laptop, clearly real, they lied about it.

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Speaker 2: I was just on foxtalnging about that, right. But again,

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Speaker 2: in some other stuff, you may get people that feel

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Speaker 2: like they can't have an honest, open discussion about different

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Speaker 2: aspects of political discourse right now because they don't want

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Speaker 2: to get sued for a billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: I think that matters. I think that affect things well.

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Speaker 5: I think there are so many things that are playing

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Speaker 5: out here now a counter so my big thesis, and

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Speaker 5: I think there are a lot of interesting aspects you

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Speaker 5: can draw, But I think we're moving from a platform

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Speaker 5: era to an individual talent era. And I've seen this

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Speaker 5: kind of playing out in my own media career. But

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Speaker 5: brand loyalty is moving, in my opinion, very much from

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Speaker 5: and radio. This has been true for a long time.

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Speaker 5: I think it's not been true as much in video.

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Speaker 5: But you out there listening to us right now are

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Speaker 5: more loyal to the individuals that you watch on TV

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Speaker 5: than you are to the larger brand behind them. So

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Speaker 5: Tucker has I believe, a brand that is every bit

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Speaker 5: as valuable, if not more valuable, than Fox.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let me put it this way.

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Speaker 2: If Tucker has a monologue that he posts every night,

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Speaker 2: and you know, maybe has some guests, whatever.

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Speaker 3: If Tucker put his show on.

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Speaker 2: Rumble, Yeah, how many of the people listening to this

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Speaker 2: right now would make an e I'd make an effort.

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Speaker 3: I would go.

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Speaker 2: I used to watch I didn't have time to watch

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Speaker 2: Tucker's whole show most nights. I used to watch Tucker's

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Speaker 2: monologue most nights that I could, you know, find myself. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in front of a TV to do it. So would

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Speaker 2: I go to Rumble to watch it?

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Speaker 3: Sure? And by the way, if I'm Rumble right now,

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Speaker 3: I mean that's you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, I think the easy way to

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Speaker 5: think about it, Buck is this, Is there any reason

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Speaker 5: why Tucker wouldn't have the most popular or powerful podcast

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Speaker 5: slash video however you want to define it in conservative

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Speaker 5: media the minute that he flips a switch to go

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Speaker 5: live on a new venture.

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Speaker 4: I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: And the reason why I bring this up I saw

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Speaker 5: it initially from sports because ESPN used to basically threaten everybody.

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Speaker 5: If you leave ESPN, you will never matter again. Because

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Speaker 5: our platform, as ESPN is so strong, we make stars

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Speaker 5: and if you aren't on our network, you won't matter anymore.

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Speaker 3: That's changed.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't exist, and it used to be because look,

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Speaker 5: there's only so many channels that used to exist. Now

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Speaker 5: we live in this world of so many infinite media

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Speaker 5: possibilities that look, here's another example. Has Joe Rogan been

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Speaker 5: hurt by not being on a traditional network as it

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Speaker 5: pertains to his Spotify deal? What does he get one

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Speaker 5: hundred million dollars a year just to be on Spotify?

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Speaker 5: So I think Tucker's audience is going to follow him everywhere. Now,

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Speaker 5: Don Lemon, I don't know that Don Lemon. If I

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Speaker 5: were again at Don Lemon's agent, I think Don Lemon

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Speaker 5: needs CNN more because I don't think there's necessarily that

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Speaker 5: many die hard I have to know what Don Lemon's saying.

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Speaker 3: People, Well, we shall see.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good.

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Speaker 3: Test, you know what I mean. We'll see what they

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Speaker 3: over at MSNBC.

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Speaker 2: They mean, by the way, ever, keep saying it's time

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Speaker 2: for someone at MSNBC to get put. You're seeing a

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Speaker 2: lot of memes out there, but who's gonna get pushed

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Speaker 2: out at MSNBC.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, we'll see.

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Speaker 5: The tough thing for MSNBC is I'm not sure hardly

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Speaker 5: Rachel Maddow just does one day a week. Now, that's

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Speaker 5: not a good sign for their network. People don't even

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Speaker 4: Okay, for those of you who.

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Speaker 5: Don't know, Tucker Carlson mutually agrees to depart Fox News.

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Speaker 5: Uh simultaneously almost CNN, seeing the opportunity of the news

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Speaker 5: cycle being grasped, fires Don Lemon, and CNN has since

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Speaker 2: Don't let the door hit you. I actually let the

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Speaker 2: door hit you on the way out, is what that's.

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Speaker 4: So we've talked, and.

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Speaker 5: I feel like I know the media environment pretty well

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Speaker 5: because of OutKick and kind of learning that process.

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Speaker 4: I sold out Kick two years ago.

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Speaker 5: But to me, one of the questions that's out there

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Speaker 5: that I think is interesting to my knowledge, check truth

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Speaker 5: social has Trump weighed in at all on Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 5: leaving Fox News And we know Ron Desantus, I don't

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Speaker 5: know what what are they twelve hours ahead?

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Speaker 4: It's the middle of the night. I think right now

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Speaker 4: in Japan.

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Speaker 2: Trump's team call in you. Trump has our He's got

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Speaker 2: the Trump Dine. That's straight Trump call in. We want

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Speaker 2: to hear from you on this.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump has the Clay and Buck battvone. So for

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Speaker 5: any of his communications team that is that is out

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Speaker 5: there right now. Yeah, what has he said? I figured

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Speaker 5: he's probably said something because Trump is a Trump is

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Speaker 5: a huge, hugely interested in media person.

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Speaker 3: Clay not on Tucker, but on Don Lemon.

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Speaker 4: Okay, good news is the.

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Speaker 3: Dumbest man on television.

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Speaker 2: Don Lemon has finally been fired from fake news CNN.

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Speaker 3: My only question is what took them so long? Nothing

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Speaker 3: on Tucker, but Trump didn't.

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Speaker 5: I will just say to Donald Trump, this has to

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Speaker 5: be Christmas morning for him. If he wants to call

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Speaker 5: in in the next hour, way in, He's got the

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Speaker 5: bat phone. Uh, he can call into the show and

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Speaker 5: weigh in on this. But the reason why I bring

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Speaker 5: up Trump and again, it's middle of the night in

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Speaker 5: with DeSantis right now in Japan. But from a political perspective,

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Speaker 5: isn't there an incredible opportunity to consider bringing Tucker on

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Speaker 5: as a part of your ticket? I mean am I

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Speaker 5: crazy on this buck? If you were Trump, he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that Tucker wants a narrative.

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Speaker 2: If we were running the screenplay, Yes, I don't think

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Speaker 2: Tucker wants. I don't think he wants to be a VP,

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Speaker 2: that's for sure. I don't see that.

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Speaker 5: Well again, I don't know if he has as much

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Speaker 5: money as he wants. I don't know what Tucker's financial

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Speaker 5: status is. He has the ability to be a billion

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Speaker 5: he's not poor, he's not playing.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be able to afford dinner tonight.

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Speaker 5: And so I'm just tossing it out there as something

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Speaker 5: if I were Trump or I were DeSantis, can you

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Speaker 5: name someone that would be universally more liked. There's a

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Speaker 5: good way of putting it to be the VP of

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Speaker 5: either man in the audience that is listening to us

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Speaker 5: right now, than Tucker as the VP for either of

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Speaker 5: those guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean, offhand, I'd have to give it some thought,

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Speaker 2: but I just I'm Tucker doesn't want I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want a job.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying he doesn't want to do it.

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Speaker 2: It's a cool theory, but you know, I don't think

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Speaker 2: he wants to do it?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to?

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Speaker 4: Let's take some calls.

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Speaker 3: Here, got Jeff in Louisville, Kentucky. Jeff, what do you

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Speaker 3: got first out of Louisville? Oh? Sorry, Becky and Casper Wyoming. Becky,

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Speaker 3: what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 6: Hi? How are you?

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Speaker 2: We're good. I mean we're day to day, but we're good.

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 3: Becky?

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Speaker 6: You forgot one other person that got fired today, and

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Speaker 6: that would be the de facto president, Susan Rice.

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Speaker 4: Well, she's out as part to buy.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, I presume at this point, anybody

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Speaker 5: who's stepping out of the Biden official team is basically

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Speaker 5: becoming a default campaign.

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Speaker 4: Advisor now right, because the expectation we didn't mention this.

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Speaker 5: The expectation is that Biden is going to officially announce

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Speaker 5: his candidacy tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's one thing. Would it be funny

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Speaker 2: if they did that today? They're like, let's just not

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Speaker 2: talk about it. I'm running from president. No one would care, Becky?

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Speaker 2: Is that it or anything else?

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Speaker 6: Well? We love Tucker Carlson. We love you guys. We

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Speaker 6: saw you Clay on Friday on The Tucker Show. Thanks

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Speaker 6: for fighting for our kids in these schools. We're going

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Speaker 6: to drop Fox News. Tucker was the one we watched,

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Speaker 6: and we're going to go to Blaze's TV, and like

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Speaker 6: you just said, Buck, we'll go to Rumble.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, what I would thank you for the call.

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Speaker 5: What I would encourage everybody out there is just wait

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Speaker 5: and see what the details are, because I understand people

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Speaker 5: are upset. You have a great deal of loyalty to Tucker.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 5: If something happened to one of us on this radio show,

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Speaker 5: people would be like, oh my god, we've been listening

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Speaker 5: to you for several years now, somebody.

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Speaker 4: I understand it.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate deeply the loyalty that audience has for talent.

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Speaker 5: It's why we can make a living doing what we do.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying I don't know what the behind the

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Speaker 5: scenes reports are. The reports are also by the way, Buck,

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Speaker 5: I don't think we've said this on the air that

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Speaker 5: Tucker Carlson's executive producer or did you update is also out.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember what we said on air what we

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Speaker 5: said off air.

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Speaker 2: There are sources that are saying yes, the executive producer

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Speaker 2: at Fox is also.

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Speaker 4: Executive producer on Tucker's Tucker show yes.

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Speaker 2: At Fox is yeah, there's many executive producers, but he

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Speaker 2: is also no longer with the network.

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Speaker 3: That is what sources are saying.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so again, I think more of these details are

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Speaker 5: going to come out, and you know, you could imagine

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Speaker 5: the staff there is basically scrambling right now to try

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Speaker 5: and put on a show tonight in what seven hours?

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Speaker 2: I mean, now, you know, look, the thing is all

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Speaker 2: these shows have guest hosts, who are you know, are

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Speaker 2: you even get sick?

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you have to come in out of the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: So so I mean, they got a machinery to do this.

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Speaker 2: But it's a different thing. Right Like Tucker's on vacation,

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Speaker 2: He'll be back tomorrow. I'm gonna do a good show

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Speaker 2: for you guys tonight. Everyone's like great, Tucker's gone forever.

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Speaker 2: I'm just here in this chair, and uh.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: Team, We're gonna roll along here, and uh we're gonna

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Speaker 2: keep our composure.

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Speaker 3: It's a little different, a little different feel.

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Speaker 5: It's a tough spot to find yourself in. And you know,

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Speaker 5: again we're kind of flying blind here with all the

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Speaker 5: crazy news that's breaking in. Uh, what did this happened

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Speaker 5: thirty minutes before he went on the air today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Phyllis in Ohio, Phyllis, you're still with us.

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Speaker 2: Phones are dropping in and out a lot here, Phyllis,

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Speaker 2: What do you got?

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Speaker 6: Oh? I'm really upset with Fox. Tucker is the only

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Speaker 6: show that I really watched that was of any value.

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Speaker 6: I put watching Fox after the twenty twenty election. So unless, uh,

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Speaker 6: with something new comes out, I'll probably cancel my subscription,

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Speaker 6: my cable sive subscription. And the the thing is, nobody's

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Speaker 6: talking about this. I wish some of these billionaires would

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Speaker 6: come out and buy Fox out.

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Speaker 3: I mean Elon.

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Speaker 2: Elon's got his heads full trying to create you know,

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Speaker 2: Mars space capable vehicles and run Twitter.

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Speaker 3: But as you can see, what a game changer that's been.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Clay, if Twitter was still operating, I just got.

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Speaker 2: Nailed on Instagram for something I posted about COVID.

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Speaker 3: Two years ago. These people are out of their minds.

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Speaker 2: So Elon, you know, with somebody coming along there and

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Speaker 2: trying to, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, to be helpful.

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Speaker 2: And with regard to conservative media on TV, would be interesting,

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Speaker 2: to be sure. But you know, Fox is a multi

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Speaker 2: multi billion dollar venture so you have to have really

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Speaker 2: deep poss.

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Speaker 5: Well, and it's not only just Fox right Ruper Murdock

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Speaker 5: owns New York Post, owns the Wall Street Journal, and

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Speaker 5: Fox News. Without him, there's almost no alternative to the

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Speaker 5: corporate hgemony. We just have regime democrat media without the

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Speaker 5: Murdoch properties in terms of at the top and talk

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Speaker 5: radio thankfully,