1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm struggling, I'm sick. I'm in so much pain. They 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: mock me, they ridicule me, they oppressed me. Is following 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: you all in vain? Is it worthless? 4 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: All right? Welcome back to the podcast, y'all. We have 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Marshall joining us, my pastor and uh, a man of 6 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: great advice. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man. 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: Marshall. Where are you from. 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Austin, Texas? 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, you are from there. 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: I was born there, but we moved around a lot 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: so Central Texas, so Austin, Georgetown, bas drop back to 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Austin Cedar Park for a little bit. 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: What about Smithville does that have? Where does that come in? 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: That's what I meant by bastrop. Nobody knows who Smithville? 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: So I say, but that was Junior High High School? 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah? What about before that? You were in Austin. 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Before before Smithville? 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: Where was elementary school? 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Elementary school would have been Austin and Cedar Park. We moved. 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: We moved in the middle of elementary school. 22 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: You were like Central Texas born and raised. 23 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: H yeah, seat in downtown. That's where That's where I 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: was born. 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: There's this, uh, there's this book that Bernie showed me 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: called the intentional father, and it talked about that term raised. Yeah, 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: and now it has Roman roots where the woman would 28 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: lay the baby on the at the foot of the 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: father and if he wanted the baby, he would raise 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,479 Speaker 2: it up in the front of everyone, okay, and if 31 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: he didn't want it, he would just turn his back 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 2: and walk away. Interesting since then we get that term 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: raised up like I was raised. I was raised by 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: my grandparents. I raised by my parents. I've never really 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: thought about it. What does it even mean raised? 36 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I've never thought about That's interesting. Yeah, so 37 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: you're raised glad my dad raised me up. 38 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: He raised you up in Central Texas, that's right. Yeah, okay, Yeah, 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 2: you want to answer some of these questions, I'll. 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Do my best. 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: People love you here. That's why you're back again and 42 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: hopefully ford willing many other times. 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: I love being here. 44 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: We answer your questions. You email podcast at grangersmith dot com. 45 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: And this first one comes from Chastity. It says, Hey Granger, 46 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: my name is Chasity. Lately, I've been struggling with emotions 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: and getting so easily upset over the past past hurts 48 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: that are resurfacing. I was explaining to my husband that 49 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: some days I feel so on fire for Jesus and 50 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: I want to tell everyone about him, and I'm so 51 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: excited to be a child of God. Then there are 52 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: other times when I feel so overwhelmed and emotional, over 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: feeling ignored by others, are just over things that have 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: already happened. My question is how do I have faith? 55 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: Because I know that it isn't always based on feelings, 56 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: it's more trust. And do I keep from getting so 57 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: overwhelmed by emotions and acting out saying things that hurt others? 58 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for all you do God blass 59 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: All right, chassity, let me recap from my own mind here. 60 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: You're wondering. First of all, your big question is how 61 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: do I have faith? And then you say, because it 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: isn't always based on feelings, it's more trust, and do 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: I keep from getting how do I keep from getting 64 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: overwhelmed by emotions and acting out saying things that hurt others? 65 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: So there's like stuff under here that we don't totally 66 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: know about. In your question, it's kind of it's a 67 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: parent that you're acting out and hurting others, and that 68 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: is part of the purpose of this email, and that 69 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: you're saying is associated with your past hurts that are resurfacing. 70 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: I'm explaining for myself, but all this is totally normal. 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: This isn't abnormal for someone to say an email just 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: like this. But the fact that you say, I feel 73 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: so on fire for Jesus and I want to tell 74 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: everybody about him. And then there are other times we're 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: just overwhelmed by emotion. That's yes, we hear you, Marshall. 76 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: Where do you start with chastity? 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: Well, one, you you don't want to put your feelings 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: against your faith. They're not enemies, right, one you live 79 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: by and one you just experience. And so faith is 80 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: the assurance of things, hope for no matter what you're feeling, 81 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: positively or negatively, you're on the highest high of the 82 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: lowest low. You're not letting your feelings dictate your steps forward. 83 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: And so your your faith comes in when you when 84 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: you try to think through Okay, I know what I'm feeling, 85 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: but what do I know to be true? What do 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: I know God's word says about the situation I'm in? 87 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: And a lot of times, especially when it's the negative 88 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: feeling of pain and hurt and suffering, the truth is well, 89 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: God said we're going to experience this. This is a 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: broken world. I'm not I shouldn't be chasing comfort and 91 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: peace here and now. I should be finding my peace 92 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: in Christ. Should be chasing the promise of God that 93 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: this is not the end. There's something better when Christ returns. 94 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: And so that's where my hope is. And so I 95 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: can experience the hurt and the pain and the suffering 96 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: in a way that doesn't overwhelm me because I know 97 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: this is not a lasting thing, that this will end. 98 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: But then it also keeps in check the positive emotions 99 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: that we have and the positive feelings when we might 100 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: be tempted to put too much stock into the current situation. 101 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: If only I can stay in this specific situation, this circumstance, 102 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: then everything's going to be good moving forward. 103 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's interesting. You start right, you go 104 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: right out the gate and you say we shouldn't pit 105 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: our feelings and our trusting or would you say. 106 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: You can't pit feelings in faith against each other? 107 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: Chastity you said, because I know that it isn't always 108 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: based on my feelings, And so yeah, it's interesting that 109 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 2: Marshall's saying, why do you need to make those two 110 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: completely separate things like as if feelings are crushing your faith, right, Yeah, yeah, 111 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: it's what she's implying. And we see that, We've seen 112 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: it in the Psalms all the time. David wrestles through this. 113 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: In fact, you're preaching on it. 114 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: This Sunday, I'm preaching on Psalm seventy three, where the 115 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: psalm ist Uh sees all this, these wicked people prospering. 116 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: He says, they're healthy, they have all this money, they 117 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: have no problems. The biggest problem they have is the 118 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: fact that they die at some point. But until then 119 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: they just live these great lives. And me, who I'm 120 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: seeking to follow? You got I'm struggling, I'm sick, I'm 121 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: in so much pain. They mock me, they ridicule me, 122 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: they oppress me. Is following you all in vain? Is 123 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: it worthless? Is? 124 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: Like? 125 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: What is it? 126 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: And right there that's real feelings. 127 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: That's real feelings. Yeah, And so there's not the sense 128 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: of hey, stop feeling that way. Yeah, Like you can't. 129 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: You can't control the way you interpret the situation or 130 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: how you respond to the interpretation of the situation, right, 131 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna experience things in your life that will 132 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: they will cause your feelings to ebb and flow. They're 133 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: gonna go up and down, and so your faith is 134 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: how you respond to those feelings. It's not like, Okay, 135 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: don't feel one way so that you can be faithful. 136 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: It's how are you going to be faithful in the 137 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: way that you're feeling. 138 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: So let's stop right there and just define that because 139 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: you're saying Chassidy says, because I know it, my faith 140 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 2: is not based on feelings, and Marshall's saying, no, your 141 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: faith is how you respond to the feelings. 142 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean think about Paul and first Thessalonians. 143 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: When he says, you know, when we have loved ones, 144 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: who ones or friends, you know, things like that, who 145 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: who are followers of Jesus who die? He says, we 146 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: don't grieve as those who have no hope. And the 147 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: second part is tends to be what we lean on. 148 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you have hope, so so like be hopeful. 149 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: And that's true, but the first part is equally as important. 150 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: He says, we don't grieve as those who have no hope. 151 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: So there's the there's the reality that he's presenting. But 152 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna grieve, You're gonna feel that pain. So you're 153 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: gonna have that feeling of hurt and sorrow, but that 154 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: grief doesn't find permanent residence in your soul because of 155 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: the hope that you have. And so he's showing that 156 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: right there. Your faith is going to be the response 157 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: to the feeling of grief that you have because it's 158 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: the hope that you have and so okay, this grief 159 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: is not going to be a lasting grief. Yeah. So 160 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: it's just that was really helpful when my mom passed away, 161 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: was thinking through that of in some stmes, I felt 162 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: for a little bit that I wasn't able to grieve 163 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: fully because I just grew up where it was kind 164 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: of like, hey, you're a Christian, have hope. You know 165 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: there's resurrection one day and she's in a better place 166 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. But and really studying 167 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: first Thessalonians and seeing that it hit me pretty hard. No, 168 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: Paul acknowledges we're gonna have grief and that is an 169 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: appropriate time to grief, but that grief doesn't stay, it's 170 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: not lasting because there's something greater than that and that's 171 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: what my faith is in. 172 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: Oh, this is so good. 173 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: So you want your faith to instruct how you work 174 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: through your how you process your feelings. And that's exactly 175 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: what's happening in Psalm seventy three in the sermon this week, 176 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: Like he lists all these things that he's struggling with, 177 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: and I'm bringing this up in the sermon. The interesting 178 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: thing is he lists all this injustice that he sees 179 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: and the wicked prospering and everything, But the issue that 180 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: he actually confesses to God is the fact that he 181 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: was envious of all that. So his biggest concern wasn't 182 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: that they were experiencing this process sparity. It was the 183 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: fact that he wasn't. And so he's trying to process 184 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: all of this, and it says like the turning point 185 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: of the psalm is when he says, when I thought 186 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: to understand this, I was exhausted. It was wearisome task 187 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: to me until I went to the sanctuary and I learned. 188 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: And so there's a shift where he takes his feelings, 189 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: his doubts, his thoughts to the Lord in faith and 190 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: basically says, I need you to help me understand this. 191 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: I know what's true is that You're good. He says 192 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: at the start of the song, he says, truly, God 193 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: is good. He says, I know this is true, but 194 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: this is what I'm seeing. I need you to help 195 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: me understand and reconcile these two things. So there his 196 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: faith is influencing his feelings in the sense of directing 197 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: where he moves forward from them. He could have just 198 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: stayed in those feelings right of doubt and hurt and envy, 199 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: but in faith, he takes it to the Lord and says, 200 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: I need you to help me understand this. And by 201 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: the end of it, he's like, whom have I in 202 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: heaven but you on earth? There's nothing to desire besides 203 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: you you. And so he really comes to understand. I 204 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: was starting to treasure so many things above you, and 205 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: it caused me to feel this way. But when you 206 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: showed me the end of all of it, so he said, 207 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, the wicked they they'll perish. They'll be judged 208 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: for their wickedness that you're they're doing. So whatever prosperity 209 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: they have, now that's that's the extent of their their happiness, 210 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: because they're going to get judged. But as for me, 211 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: this pain and suffering I'm experiencing now pales in comparison 212 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: to the to the glory. I'm gonna be with with 213 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: you one day. And so that faith helps him get 214 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: through the feelings of doubt and grief and envy and pain. 215 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: So that's so good. So Chastity kind of give you 216 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: some some practical application for this. The at your words, 217 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: you're excited to be a child of God. So as 218 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: a child of God, you are told that you will suffer, 219 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: you will have feelings, you will grieve, you will sin. 220 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: You told a lot of things about yourself, and it 221 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: never says that you won't be that, or you won't 222 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: do that, or you won't feel that. But what the 223 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: Bible does it helps you to make sense of those 224 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: feelings and when you do suffer, how to suffer well, 225 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: when you do grieve, how to grieve with hope. So 226 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: that's the application for you, is that you will go 227 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: through these The fact that you feel or go through 228 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: these things doesn't mean you're a bad child of God. 229 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: But how you respond to it is what we want 230 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: you to know. And then then we're going to get 231 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: into spiritual disciplines with this conversation, because what Marshall is 232 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: basically saying is when he lost his mother and I 233 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: don't know how the scenario worked out, but you went 234 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: to the Bible with your feelings. So, for instance, chastity, 235 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: when you say, well what do I how does that 236 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: look like? Bring it to God? When I bring my feet, 237 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 2: what does that look like? Well it means. It could 238 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: mean a dark room with a cup of coffee in 239 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: your Bible and you go to your Bible in prayer. 240 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: It's like, Lord, I'm coming to your word. I feel this. 241 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 2: I think I'm grieving this way, I'm suffering in this way, 242 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: I have sinned in this way, and I'm taking this 243 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 2: to you, meaning practically, I'm sitting here with the Bible 244 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: in my lap, and Marshall's saying when this happened with 245 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: his mother, he found a word in there that transformed 246 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: and gave him understanding to understand the suffering he was 247 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: going through. Yeah, there's a lot. We could talk for 248 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: probably an hour about spiritual disciplines and how the different 249 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: things you could set up chastity in your life to 250 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: help walk through these I don't think it's necessary to 251 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: do that in this podcast. 252 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: I think the only thing I would say based on 253 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: what she said in the email is feeling things based 254 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: on past experiences. I think there is something to where 255 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: we shouldn't dwell so much on the past. The Lord 256 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: has us where we're at today for a reason, and 257 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: to keep bringing up things in the past is going 258 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: to keep bringing up the same emotions. And so there's 259 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: a sense of just keep moving forward, keep pressing on 260 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: in faith. No, you can't go back and change things, 261 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: and that God was sovereign over all of it. So 262 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: you are where you are today for a reason, and 263 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: and just don't don't dwell so much on the past. Really, 264 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I've told some of our people, like, the 265 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: only thing you should dwell on that's in the past 266 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: is the Cross because of all the implications that come 267 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: from that, and that fuels the faith going forward. So 268 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: it's good. 269 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 2: Amber and I were told one time it happened, but 270 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: it is not happening. This podcast is brought to you 271 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 2: by Better Help. You know, it's a it's a common 272 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: and this conception about relationships that they just have to 273 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: be easy to be right, and anyone that knows understands 274 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 2: that that couldn't be further from the truth. The best 275 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: ones happen when both people put in the work to 276 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: make them great. You know, therapy could be a place 277 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: to work through those kind of challenges that you face 278 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: in all of those relationships, whether with work, friends, your 279 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: significant other, or anyone you know. Amber and I went 280 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: to therapy and we were trying to work through the 281 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: grief and loss from our son, from losing our son, 282 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: and part of that therapy though, was building our relationship, 283 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: even though when we didn't even know it. We were 284 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: working through doing putting in the work for each other, 285 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: for understanding each other, for understanding how we respond or 286 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: why we respond in certain ways. Areas in our life 287 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: that we trust each other, that we lean on each other, 288 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: and areas that we don't at all. 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Next question 298 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: comes from Grace. Hey, Granger, have been listening to your 299 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: podcast a lot and I feel very motivated by them. 300 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: What is your advice you'd give to someone who's never 301 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: dated at the age of nineteen, How to pick themselves 302 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: up when everyone around you has a boyfriend who is 303 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 2: already hanging out with their significant other instead of you, 304 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 2: and then make me feel lonely by myself? How do 305 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 2: I keep faith and trust in God, knowing that he 306 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: has a plan for my future when I'm starting to 307 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: lose hope? There it is again, thank you for everything 308 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 2: you do for others. Grace, Hey, Grace, thanks for emailing. 309 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm nineteen years old. That once again not an uncommon question. 310 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: You're not alone in asking this, And for you to 311 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: be nineteen and single and have never dated and looking 312 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: around at a lot of other people that are dating 313 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: now is very common, very normal. Although it seems like 314 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: you're the only one I could tell you just from 315 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 2: this podcast alone, from two hundred and twenty six episodes, 316 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: I could tell you here by far, you're not alone. 317 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: You have a lot of people going through this, and 318 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: that's the first part. We'll start with that. The second 319 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: part is nineteen seems so old, but you're so young, 320 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: have so much. You have so much, and and I 321 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: would be so encouraged by you that you've actually not 322 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 2: dated in you're nineteen, and so you think of what 323 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 2: you what you've been saved from, you know, because all 324 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: these people you're looking at and all these bad breakups, 325 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: and probably the next question we get, I don't know, 326 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: this is something bad that's happening in a relationship that 327 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: people are trying to look Hey, the question we just 328 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: had from Chastity, so she's looking back at the past, 329 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: at things that are now resurfacing. It probably has to 330 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 2: do with a relationship and grace. You are free from 331 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 2: that right now. You have a clean slate, And so 332 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 2: let's start with that's that's your first paragraph. And how 333 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: to keep my faith and trust God knowing that he 334 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: has a plan for the future when I'm starting to 335 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: lose hope. That's that's that. And then then the middle 336 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: part of your question is how to stop looking at 337 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: everyone around you? So just try to think just purely 338 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: practical marshal on this without getting too deep with this. 339 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna assume. I'm going to assume that social media 340 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: is part of the problem. It seems a pretty good 341 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: assumption in twenty twenty four, at being nineteen, that you're 342 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 2: gonna see something else popping up on social media when 343 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: it's another one of your friends and they're in a 344 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: relationship and they're having a good time and you're left out. 345 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: Do you get What are your thoughts on social media? 346 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 2: And have you and your wife Alex thought about any 347 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 2: safeguards for your own kids. 348 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we've started talking about it. Our oldest is nine, 349 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: so you can go all the way at a time, 350 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: But I mean, who knows what it'll be out there 351 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: by then? 352 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: Right, So in ten years Kim is Grace nineteen. Those 353 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: are ten quick years. Oh yeah, So let's think of 354 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: Kim as your daughter as Grace in the situation, right, 355 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: what are you telling her? 356 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if she's telling me she's losing hope 357 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: on asking what her hope is in, right, that's it. 358 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna I'm I'm not gonna go to 359 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: deep into that because I don't know yet, But that's 360 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: gonna dictate kind of the some of the practical advice 361 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: I give her, because I mean, part of it would 362 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: be what you've already said like, yeah, nineteen seems like 363 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: you're you're behind the game that you should have already 364 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: dated multiple guys by this point. And it's like you 365 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: got plenty of time. Out of all the people I've 366 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: ever met, I've only met two who or like I've 367 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: married my high school sweetheart yep too, out of all 368 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: the people. Yeah, And so it's you know, the odds 369 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: are not strong in that favor for that. And so 370 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: when I think through people dating, it's it's why do 371 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: you want to date? Right? Like, if you're wanting to 372 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: date just to date, that's just gonna lead to hurt 373 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: because there's no end game in that. It's just and 374 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: it's really about yourself. When really, when you think about 375 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: a relationship, in a relationship, you should be thinking about 376 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 1: the other person above yourself, and if both people are 377 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: doing that, that leads to a good relationship. 378 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 379 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: Right. And so if the idea is I just I 380 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: want to date because I feel like I should have 381 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: dated by now, that's difficult because you've made it more 382 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: about you than anybody else. Now I have talked two 383 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: people who feel like I haven't dated yet because I 384 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: must not be good enough. Nobody's found me attractive, nobody 385 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: finds me lovable, nobody nobody wants to be with me, 386 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: And then if that's the case, then then then we 387 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: have a whole other discussion on our hands. Right, So, 388 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: if Kim's telling me that, like, I feel like I'm 389 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: I'm worthless, I feel like nobody loves me, nobody cares 390 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: for me, nobody wants to be with me again at nineteen, 391 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 1: I'm pushing against that a little bit, saying, hey, you're 392 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: only nineteen, don't stress about it. But you know you 393 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: could take the conversation in two different ways at that point. 394 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I don't think Grace is going there. 395 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't think so either, which why I didn't start there. Yeah, 396 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: but I do think there is the sense it sounds 397 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: more like I feel like I should have dated by now, yes, 398 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 1: and I haven't. 399 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: And so yeah, if London, my daughter came to me 400 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: and said, Dad, could you could you give me an 401 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: example of something you would love for me to say 402 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: in the next seven years, I would say, I would 403 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: love for you in the next seven years to say 404 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: I've never dated anyone and I'm still nineteen. I'm just nineteen. 405 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 2: I would I would love that for my daughter so 406 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 2: what you have, grace is truly a gift, and I 407 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: hope you see it that way. And because then we 408 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 2: can go to your last question, how do you keep 409 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: faith and trust in God? Knowing he has a plan 410 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: for your future? But you're starting to lose hope? And 411 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 2: I go, if I'm your father, Grace, I say, my 412 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 2: hope is that you are still single at nineteen. So 413 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: how much more would our heavenly Father want for us? Yeah? 414 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: And I think there's a sense of you know, how 415 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: do I I can't remember how she worded it right there, 416 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, you just read it, but you know, how 417 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: do I remain faithful? Trusting God? And this whole thing? 418 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting because his word actually speak speaks 419 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: to this when Paul says, I wish you were all single, 420 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: because then you could devote a lot of time to 421 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: the ministry like I'm doing just to not not like 422 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: paid ministry or working at a church, but just there's 423 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: so much you could be doing for God right now 424 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: when you don't have to worry about a significant other, 425 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about children. You have so 426 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: many freedoms in that sense. And so what scripture speaks 427 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: to this is if you're nineteen and you're not dating, 428 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: the Lord actually says that's a good thing. And if 429 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: that's the case, if you're not dating, if you haven't 430 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: found somebody that you're potentially getting married to, if he 431 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: hasn't brought that person into your life, then he's put 432 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: you in a position where you have a lot of 433 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: freedoms to serve him in specific ways. And so, you know, 434 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: how do I remain faithful without losing hope and knowing 435 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: what God's plan is for me in this His plan 436 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: for you is just to glorify Him and everything, whether 437 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: you're dating or not. And so when you're not dating, 438 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: you have all these freedoms that you can do to 439 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: serve him better. And so how do you do it? 440 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: What's the practical step? Figure out the ways you're serving 441 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: the Lord? How are you seeking to glorify Him in 442 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: everything you're presently doing. You know, as you know, I'm 443 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: assuming you're in church being a Christian, and so there's 444 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: you know, you can go on mission trips more easily 445 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: than if you were, you know, with somebody or you know, 446 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: have kids. That's more difficult when you get those situations 447 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: in your life. So you can go on mission trips, 448 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: you can you can be in more Bible, you can 449 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: go to Bible study, you can be in meeting with 450 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: more ladies in the church for discipleship and then discipling 451 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: some of the the the the younger ladies in the church. 452 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: And so you have all these opportunities to be serving 453 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: the Lord. And you know, how how am I supposed 454 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: to know God's plan for my life in this point? Well, 455 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 1: he actually tells you, if you're single, you have all 456 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: the freedoms to do so many things. Yeah, so go 457 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: and do them. 458 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: I was just I don't remember. I don't remember if 459 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: you're with me or not, Marshall. But recently someone told me, 460 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: I don't remember who was. They told me they met 461 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 2: their wife on mission. 462 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 463 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: It's like, oh man, that's a pretty good place to 464 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: meet your your future spouse. Yeah, so that's what he's saying. Yeah, yeah, Well, 465 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: is there a is there a book we could recommend Grace. 466 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: Not Yet Married? Not not Yet Married by Marshall? Uh Siegel? 467 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, s E g A L. 468 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: I believe cool. So good question. 469 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of the outdated book. Jonathan Bakluda outdated, 470 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: I think that is, it's probably the closest target to 471 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: your exact question here, Even though that's coming from a 472 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 2: married man, it's always a little bit more difficult when 473 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: it's coming from someone's not in your situation at all. 474 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: Next question comes from Austin Hey Granger. I live in 475 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: North Georgia. I'm twenty two years old and a few 476 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: months away and hopefully getting engaged to my girlfriend of 477 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: four years. I've been listening to this podcast for about 478 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: a year now, and my question for you is about 479 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: growing my faith and reading the Bible a couple of mine. 480 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 2: A goal of mine is to eventually read the whole Bible. 481 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: I've tried to start multiple times, but I always end 482 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: up not following through. I always get stuck feeling like 483 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: reading the Bible just to read is a chore, and 484 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I get as much out of 485 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: it as I do when I study certain topics, for example, 486 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: doing a devotional or reading along with a pastor at church. 487 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 2: Should I focus on reading the whole Bible, and if so, 488 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: what would be the best way to focus on that? 489 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: Or should I just read and study certain topics. Thanks 490 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: for all you do to help build the Kingdom of God, 491 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: God Bless, and that is Austin. Austin, I'm gonna agree 492 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: with you right off the bat. It's something you said. 493 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: You said, I feel stuck, feeling like reading the Bible 494 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: just to read it is a chore, and I don't 495 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: feel like I get as much out of it when 496 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: I do. I agree, and I think God would agree. 497 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: If you're reading it just to read it. I mean, 498 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: I don't really know anything in life you could say 499 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 2: that about doing something just to do it, You're not 500 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: going to get anything out of it, regardless of filling 501 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: the blank with whatever that is, including the Bible. So 502 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: when the Bible becomes a chore, or when you think 503 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: of the Bible as something that you need to read 504 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: because that's what you need to do, it is certainly 505 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 2: getting into the category of works for righteousness at that point. 506 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: It's it is becoming you said the word often a chore. 507 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: So if that's where you are, and you're like, man, 508 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: I've heard people say I should read the whole Bible, 509 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: and I feel like I probably should read the whole Bible. 510 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: It just makes sense, but I cannot stand doing it, 511 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: and I've tried and I've given up, and it feels 512 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 2: like a chore because I'm just doing it because I'm 513 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: trying to, you know, put a check in the box. 514 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: And to all that, I say, Okay, then we probably 515 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: need to aim lower, and we need to we need 516 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 2: to go backwards a little bit and in the spiritual disciplines, 517 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: like we mentioned earlier, let's let's back up a little bit. 518 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 2: Because first of all, what I always like to encourage 519 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: is instead of thinking of reading the entire Bible, I 520 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 2: don't really even like that terminology. I don't like to 521 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: think of it in that way because it immediately makes 522 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: me think of reading it to finish it. And it 523 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: should never be like that. And unless you're taking some 524 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 2: kind of math class, then I don't think any book 525 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: should be looked at as reading it just to finish it. 526 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: What good is it at all? So back way up, 527 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: aim way lower. You know what I want to I 528 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: want to start. I'm want to start reading to the 529 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 2: Book of John. But I don't want to necessarily read 530 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: the Book of John. I don't want to read the 531 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: whole Bible, and I don't want to read the whole 532 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 2: Book of John. I just want to read the first chapter. 533 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: And if that seems like too much. Then I just 534 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: want to read the first page in my Bible of John. 535 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm want to start there because I know that this 536 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: whole Bible reading thing something I should do. But your 537 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: eyes have to be open to that. And this is 538 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: this is from someone speaking to you right now that 539 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: understands what it felt like to have my eyes closed 540 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: to it, to have the dust collecting on the Bible itself. 541 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,719 Speaker 2: And I can't tell you. I can't open your eyes, Austin, 542 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: and I can't tell you that you need to be 543 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 2: doing this. And if you want to be a Christian, 544 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: you need to read your Bible. I can't. I can't 545 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 2: do it. I can only encourage you if you're going. 546 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm hungry, I love God. My eyes are open, I 547 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: want to know. I want to know word and I'm 548 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: gonna go. Let me show you where it is and 549 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: try to hear in the Bible. And you've probably heard 550 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 2: me go through that whole spill before on this podcast 551 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: or somewhere else. And that's not what I would say 552 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: to you. To you, I would say, we have to 553 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: get our heart right first, and that's gonna start with prayer. Yeah, 554 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: And it's like I'm thinking, I'm just trying to picture 555 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 2: this and try to give you just a practical look 556 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 2: for this, Austin. And so I'm thinking, I hate to 557 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: always say early in the morning, but you know, for 558 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: me in my life, the morning is better for my 559 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: personal reading because that's before my phone starts buzzing and 560 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: the emails come in, and Amber has things for me 561 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: to do, and I've got other obligations, so before all 562 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: that starts. This is why I always go there. I 563 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: would get there, Austin, in the time of day when 564 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: nothing's going on, and just go, Lord, here I am. 565 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: And my mind tells me that I should be reading 566 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 2: this because I've heard it said that this is your word. 567 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: But Lord, I'm struggling to want to do it, to 568 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: the desire to do it, and I feel like that's 569 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 2: a I feel like it's a problem. And I also 570 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 2: realized that God, but my heart is in your hands. 571 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: Will you soften my heart? Will you open up these 572 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: pages where you open up this word, so that so 573 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: that I crave it, so that I long for it, 574 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: so I thirst for it like a dear thirst for 575 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: living waters. You know, I want that. I want that 576 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: from me. I want to I want to desire this, 577 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: will you open up that for me? God? And then 578 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: at that point, Austin, you're not going, Okay, Genesis one, 579 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: here we go. Now You're like, so I'm gonna start 580 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: with these first couple of paragraphs of John one. In 581 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: the beginning was the Word, and the word is with God, 582 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: and then the word was God. He was in the 583 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 2: beginning with God. And you're just kind of working through that, 584 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: and then you stop and you pray, you read it again. 585 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll say what I mean, five to ten minutes. Yeah, 586 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: close the Bible the next morning, picking up where you 587 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: left off, same prayer. Yeah, second chapter. Yeah, you know, 588 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: just just slowly, aim lower. That's what I'm trying to 589 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: tell you, aim lowered, to stop thinking about finishing the 590 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: Bible and closing the back of Revelation and going I 591 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: did it, I did it. Shock it up for another one, 592 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: for another person that's read the Bible. Don't be that guy, Austin. 593 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna shut up and let Marshall guide on this. No. 594 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think all that's good man, and I 595 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: don't want to repeat anything Grander said, So I'll just 596 00:32:52,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: try to add a couple of other practical stuff I 597 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: would encourage you to find somebody who's a little more 598 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: mature in the faith than you will be. And that's 599 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: not saying you're immature. That's just saying we all have 600 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: people who are more mature. I have more people in 601 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: my lives who are more mature believers than I am, 602 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: and so I go and I am discipled by them. 603 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: But when you read scripture with somebody else, there's something 604 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: different that happens, right because you start it's now a 605 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: it's like a three person conversation, like God is speaking, 606 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 1: and then you're with this other person kind of talking 607 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: about what God is saying, and one that helps hold 608 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: you accountable to actually doing it. But more importantly, they 609 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: might see something that you don't, not something new, not 610 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: something that's like hidden in between the verses, but where 611 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: you they they'll say, do you realize what he's saying here? 612 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: He's actually connecting it back to this And then you're going, oh, wow, 613 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: I never made that connection. That's helpful. Little stuff like 614 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: that then starts feeding that appetite for the word. I mean, 615 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: if you think about eating healthy like the stuff that 616 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be eating, nobody just jumps dives in it. 617 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: Nobody over eats the healthy stuff, right. But the more 618 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: you cut out junk and the more you start picking 619 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: up the healthy stuff, you start craving it a little 620 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: bit more. And so there's a sense of the more 621 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: you do it, the hungrier you'll get for it. Like 622 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: Grangeer was saying, but I think when you have somebody 623 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: else doing it with you, that that helps kind of 624 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: grow that hunger and that desire for it. And then 625 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, I hope you're in church. If you're not 626 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: gonna encourage you get in church, but if you can, 627 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: if there's a way to do it, figure out what's 628 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: getting preached the next Sunday. So like at our church, 629 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: what I try to do is on Tuesday or Wednesdays 630 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: earlier on Tuesdays, I try to send out, hey, this 631 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: is the sermon text that is coming on Sunday. And 632 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: the reason I'm doing this because I'm praying that the 633 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: church throughout the week is reading that passage and so 634 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: that might be you might read that same passage every 635 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: single day. And what you're doing at that point is 636 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: you're trying to see, Okay, what is this text saying, 637 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: and how's the pastor going to preach this techt like, 638 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: what are some things he might be pulling out of this? 639 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: And I mean, in fact, what we try to do 640 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: is we actually try to give out two months worth 641 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: of texts, So, hey, this is a schedule we're going through. 642 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: So the people should be reading those things to get 643 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: an understanding of what it is. And so if you're 644 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: able to in your church, figure out what the next 645 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: sermon text is and use that as kind of your 646 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: guide of what to be reading, and then maybe read 647 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: the passages around it. So if he's preaching ten verses, 648 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: read twenty of them and kind of see what's happening 649 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: around it and use that for your guide of what 650 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: you're going to be reading. That way, you don't set 651 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: unrealistic goals for yourself. If you've never read the Bible 652 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: in depth before and you go, all right, this year, 653 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm going the entire cover to cover. Yeah, that's like 654 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: saying I've never swam before when I'm diving in the 655 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: deep end from the high dive, like we're going, and 656 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: you're just like, that's not gonna be successful. You got 657 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 1: to you gotta ease yourself into it. 658 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: So I smiled earlier because I was just thinking Austin. 659 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: First of all, I'm encouraged by your email. Thank you 660 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 2: for this, But man, I pray, I pray that people 661 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: come to me. Any believer would think the same thing. 662 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 2: In your community right now in North Georgia, any believer 663 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 2: is praying that somebody like you would call them or 664 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 2: text him and go, I really want to read the Bible? 665 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: Would you do that with me? Oh? Man? Like, so 666 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: much of the the work I did, the evangelistic work 667 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: I do, is ground up stuff, or it's from from 668 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: people that don't want it, or they're rejecting God and 669 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: they and they come to me with these questions, these 670 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: like apologetic questions, and it's more rare that someone's like, 671 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 2: you know what, I think this is important. I'm hungry. 672 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 2: Will you will you walk this with me? And every 673 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,800 Speaker 2: believer in North Georgia says yes, I will. I will. 674 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: How about tomorrow? How about coffee tomorrow? So you know, 675 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: if you're looking to get a hold of me, maybe 676 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 2: have me send you a message you know that's available 677 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 2: to you right now at cameo dot com slash Grangersmith 678 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 2: if you want a personal message, Happy birthday, happy anniversary, 679 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: maybe a bit of encouragement maybe even a prayer. I 680 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 2: could do that and you could find me. You could 681 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 2: tell me exactly what you need from me. You could 682 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 2: write it out. Hey, Granger, it's my brother's birthday. He's 683 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 2: doing this and that he's into this, He's not into that, 684 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 2: he's turning this many years old. Would you please wish 685 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,439 Speaker 2: him a happy birthday? And I'll do that right here 686 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 2: on my phone. I record it and send you the 687 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 2: video message of me saying that. You can get that 688 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 2: at cameo dot com slash Granger Smith anytime. In fact, 689 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 2: I do these all the time. Again, it's cameo dot 690 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: com slash Granger Smith. You could also download the cameo 691 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 2: app and search for me Granger Smith. Next question comes 692 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: from Nicole. It says, Hey, I'd like to get your 693 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 2: input on the practice of manifestation. I have a friend 694 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: who recently started a new business venture that focuses on 695 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: manifesting yourself, ridding yourself of negative energy, and embracing the 696 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 2: power of your body to heal. While I personally believe 697 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 2: Jesus is the only answer, I'm having a hard time 698 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 2: processing what this new outspoken belief system of my friend 699 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 2: does for our friendship. Should I let it change the 700 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: relationship that we have. I find myself slightly pulling away 701 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: from that relationship because how can you be close to 702 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: someone who has such a different foundational belief? Is it 703 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: wrong for me to step back from a friendship due 704 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 2: to differences of opinion? I want to surround myself with 705 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 2: godly like minded people who can encourage and help me grow. 706 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 2: I'm excited to take to hear your approach on this 707 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 2: friendship and also the practice of manifestation itself. Nicole. Thank you. 708 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: Marshall. 709 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: We don't have like a ton of time on this, 710 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 2: and so we don't and I don't think it really 711 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,240 Speaker 2: needs a lot of time. But one red flag, Nicole, 712 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: that you have recognized, and maybe you don't even realize it, 713 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,359 Speaker 2: but your friend is starting a new business venture that's 714 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 2: focusing on this. Like that sid says something right there. 715 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: This is not like a faith thing or something that 716 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 2: she's really It doesn't sound like she's something she's really 717 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: finding comfort in and practicing. She's starting a business venture 718 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: and there's big business in this. Manifesting yourself, ridding yourself 719 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: of negative energy, embracing the power of yourself to heal yourself. 720 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 2: You know, like those are all just huge red flags 721 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 2: for a Christian and I feel like you know that. 722 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 2: And I don't really think you have to hear from 723 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 2: me and Marshall on why we think that is an 724 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: unhealthy thing, So we won't. I don't think we need 725 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 2: to go there. What we can do is talk about 726 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 2: the middle part of your question is saying you're talking 727 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 2: about the relationship with your friend, and you want to 728 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: be around people that are encouraging you and and helping 729 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 2: your belief and helping you grow. And to that, I say, 730 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 2: this is why the Bible will warn us, especially as 731 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: new believers or ones that are weaker in the faith, 732 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 2: to be careful when we are associating with these new ideas, 733 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: because when you hear basically, this is a myth right. 734 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 2: So when we hear these myths, we could drift off 735 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: into this nonsense and actually start believing it ourselves if 736 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: we're around it too much. That's a warning. If you're 737 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 2: newer or weaker in your faith. If that's not you, Nicole, 738 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: and you're like, no, you know, I feel strong in 739 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 2: my faith, then this is definitely an evangelistic opportunity for 740 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 2: you that you don't want to cut off necessarily you 741 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 2: don't want to say, hey, I don't believe in that stuff, 742 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 2: and because of that, I can't even talk to you. 743 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 2: I don't even want to be friends with you. That's 744 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,839 Speaker 2: not a good thing. That's not a good message to 745 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 2: your friend. And it's really if she's dying in this, 746 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 2: which she is, and you're cutting off a lifeline to 747 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 2: her by saying, you know what, I just don't agree 748 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 2: with what you're saying, and I don't want it to 749 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 2: start affecting me. Well, discourage that. So these are the 750 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 2: two scenarios for her, and I don't know really which 751 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: one she is. 752 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just think when we have people who 753 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: are close to this in our lives to start chasing 754 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: a different a myth chasing, chasing a myth, chasing false teaching. Basically, 755 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: the guardrails we have is don't embrace it, don't ignore it, 756 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: but engage with with them. 757 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 2: So don't cut them off. 758 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, don't cut them off. Don't cut her off, 759 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: but you also don't interact with her in a way 760 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: where you're like, I just won't talk about religion. I 761 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: won't talk about faith, I won't talk about spirituality, I 762 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: won't I pretend like she has her way, I have 763 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: my way. You want to be able to have the 764 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: conversations with her where she knows you disagree, but you 765 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: can have loving and truthful conversations with her about why 766 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 1: you disagree, great, and why you're concerned for her soul. 767 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 2: For this, you can ask her questions like, how do 768 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: you rid yourself of negative energy? Explain that to me. 769 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 2: It's a great conversation I started with someone like this. 770 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, But on the flip side too, I think it 771 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: also means you're putting in the effort outside of that 772 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: relationship to grow and you're understanding better of what you 773 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: believe so that you're not carried away, Yes, by this 774 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 1: other teaching. So this, this friendship now may require even 775 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: more effort than it did previously because outside of it, 776 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to equip yourself and strengthen yourself to engage 777 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: with her in a meaningful, loving, but direct way when 778 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: it comes to this issue, because it isn't just could 779 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: ruin our friendship or I don't want to rock the boat, 780 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: but instead it's, uh, this is extremely dangerous for her 781 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: soul and for those she's influencing, And so you want 782 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: to you want to treat her in love with the truth, 783 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: and and and pray that the Lord would would help 784 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: her to see the truth and help you grow in 785 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 1: the truth. 786 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 2: So that's all we got. I love you, guess see 787 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,440 Speaker 2: you next Monday. Thanks for joining me on the Grangersmith Podcast. 788 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate all of you guys. You could help me 789 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 2: out by rating this podcast on iTunes. If you're on YouTube, 790 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 2: subscribe to this channel. Hit that little like button and 791 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 2: the notification spell so that you never miss anytime I 792 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,279 Speaker 2: upload a video. If you have a question for me 793 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 2: that you would like me to answer, email Grangersmith Podcast 794 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 2: at gmail dot com. Yie