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Speaker 1: dot com. Good morning, everybody, Happy Tuesday. I have an

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Speaker 1: amazing show for everybody today. What do we have, pristalt yee,

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Speaker 1: we do.

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Speaker 2: Trump gave a very head scratching press conference yesterday.

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Speaker 3: We'll break that down for you. Also, Israel is.

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Speaker 2: Leaking that maybe they've had enough, maybe they'd like a

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Speaker 2: ceasfire at least for now. Aurano is signaling they want

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Speaker 2: to keep going at least until the midterm. So we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about everybody's strategy and where everybody is in this

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Speaker 2: war at this point. Brandan Wikert is also going to

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Speaker 2: join us to break down the interceptor math and the

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Speaker 2: damage that has been done to US raidars and the

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Speaker 3: As the war grinds.

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Speaker 2: On, Trump is urging oil tanker pilots to risk their

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Speaker 2: concerns continue to escalate and sort of dominate this conflict.

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Speaker 2: We also have one non around block here, although I

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Speaker 2: would argue they continue to be linked some new Epstein revelations,

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Speaker 2: including new details about a potential cover up. Apparently guards

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Speaker 2: some interesting money transfers to one of these prison guards.

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Speaker 2: And also those secret interviews of a Trump accuser that

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Speaker 2: were hidden have now been made public and one journalist

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Speaker 2: was able to verify some of the details, corroborate some

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Speaker 2: those interviews. These are obviously shocking revelations, so we will

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Speaker 1: us at such a critical time like this. As Krystal said,

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and start here with the Trump press conference.

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Speaker 1: So Trump made a major announcement just to set the

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Speaker 1: stage for everybody. Yesterday, oil prices had gone sky high,

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Speaker 1: they had come down a bit, the markets were down.

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Speaker 1: Right around three pm, right before the markets closed, Trump calls,

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Speaker 1: or it was called by a CBS News reporter, and

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Speaker 1: he said that the war will be over very soon. Immediately,

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Speaker 1: rocketed down. Everybody was so excited. The taco is coming.

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Speaker 1: And then he took to the stage and yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: not really what we got at all. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 4: They were separate, and but everybody said the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you win.

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Speaker 5: We will.

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Speaker 4: We've already won in many ways, but we haven't won enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please, thank you, thank you. Mister president.

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Speaker 2: You've said the war is quote very complete, but your

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Speaker 3: So which is it and how long should Americans be?

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Speaker 4: I think both the beginning. It's the beginning of building

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Speaker 4: It's all been blown up. They have no radar, they

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Speaker 4: So you know, you could look at that statement. Could

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Speaker 4: we could call it a tremendous success right now as

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Speaker 4: go further. And we're going to go further. But you know,

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Speaker 4: they've said this about a lot of things. Go as

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Speaker 1: Yes, true, yeah, certainly, true, definitely not a compliment. Let's

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Speaker 1: chickens out, as originally coined by Senator Chuck Schumer, now

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Speaker 1: completely been dispelled so late last night, Trump issues this missive.

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Speaker 1: If Iran does anything that stops the flow of oil

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Speaker 1: within the strait of Horror Moves, they will be hit

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Speaker 1: fire and fury will rain upon them. But I hope

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Speaker 1: it's back fire and fury, of course, originally coined in

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen in that exchange between Trump and what did

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Speaker 1: they released it, Like when Saudi Arabia said incoming missiles

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Speaker 1: Same here with the UAE. We know multiple targets were

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Speaker 1: Bit, but not you know, all the way back to

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Speaker 1: see extreme volatility happen. I mean, if you ask me

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Speaker 3: That's just me well what it's I mean.

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Speaker 2: Trump's actions yesterday were obviously just a good old fashion

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Speaker 2: market manipulation. He saw things going south in terms of

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Speaker 2: It's like, I got to do something about this because

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Speaker 2: this reporter says, oh, we're pretty much done, schedules a

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Speaker 2: the Iranians have been very consistent in saying we're not done.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, you don't get to say when this is over,

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Speaker 2: because we know we learned our lesson from the Twelve

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Speaker 2: Day War. We're not doing a ceasefire with you now

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Speaker 2: until you have felt the pain. We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: more about some of the specifics of what the Iranians

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Speaker 2: there is a very very strong likelihood. But in his

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Speaker 3: Of this, guys.

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Speaker 2: But this is what we have been talking about. This

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Speaker 2: that's my read of what is going on here. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I think also obviously they're putting out all

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Speaker 2: they have no more navy, they have no more air force,

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Speaker 2: basically defeated. You know, we've effectively declared victory here, even

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Speaker 2: though we're going to keep going. But this leak from

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Speaker 2: A top Iranian security official tells Trump be careful not

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Speaker 2: Now is the dude, who's mom, dad, wife and son

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Speaker 1: So you think your relatives in there too?

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. And by the way, you know.

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Speaker 2: With this sort of rudder, which is extreme, can you

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Speaker 1: He kept that open and you can already see how

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Speaker 1: So I'm watching this press conference yesterday. My wife's mad

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Speaker 2: You promise the Iranian people you would help them, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the only adversarial the journalism that we occasionally

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Speaker 3: So you know, that's the backstory here.

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Speaker 2: So to have this conversation happening right now is you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, there was another piece of the press conference where

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Speaker 3: Well, India already got their waivered.

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Speaker 6: Missile striking.

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Speaker 4: A Tomahawk missile likely destroyed that Iranian girls' school.

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Speaker 1: So will the Americans? Will the US accept any responsibility?

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Speaker 4: Well, I haven't seen it, and I will say that

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing, but I'm not laughing, Like that's an insane

434
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Speaker 1: thing to say. And actually reporter confronted him later on.

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Speaker 1: It was great Sean McCree shout out over the New

436
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Speaker 1: York Times. Been a fan of his for a long time,

437
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Speaker 1: and he was like, why are you the only person

438
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Speaker 1: in your government saying that Iran has a Tomahawk missas Like,

439
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Speaker 1: not even your own secretary of Defense says that, And

440
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Speaker 1: he goes, well, we're investigating it, and I'll live with

441
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Speaker 1: whatever the report was. So even he walked it back

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Speaker 1: in the immediate term.

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Speaker 2: McCree was like, you're saying that Iran somehow got a

444
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Speaker 2: Tomahawk missile and bombed their own school. No one else

445
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Speaker 2: is saying that. Why are you the only person that's

446
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Speaker 2: saying that? And then Trump backbattles to like, well, there's

447
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Speaker 2: an investigation. I mean, just unbelievable bullshit. That even Pete

448
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Speaker 2: egseth Is you know, has enough shame that he won't

449
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Speaker 2: go along with so they default to like, oh, it's

450
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Speaker 2: an investigation, and you know this has been like it

451
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Speaker 2: should be, and it is a massive scandal. It should

452
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Speaker 2: be an even bigger scandal. But I've seen even you know,

453
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Speaker 2: Laura Ingram is like there needs to be answers to this,

454
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Speaker 2: like how did this happen?

455
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Speaker 3: Because the other.

456
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Speaker 2: Piece is, you know, best case scenario, it's just a

457
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Speaker 2: horrific mistake. But then you're like, why was it a

458
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Speaker 2: double tap strike? Then how did that happen? And then

459
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Speaker 2: the other question obviously is was this an AI generated target?

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Speaker 3: That why this occurred?

461
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Speaker 2: Because there was another instance where they bombed something called

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Speaker 2: police Park.

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Speaker 3: Now this may have been.

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Speaker 2: The Israelis, because it's been largely the Israelis who have

465
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Speaker 2: been bombing the you know, the police stations, just trying

466
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Speaker 2: to completely break down any sort of civil order and

467
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Speaker 2: create the you know, Foamon, the conditions for this you know,

468
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Speaker 2: imaginary uprising, same thing that they did in Gaza, by

469
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Speaker 2: the way, when they were trying to get the people

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Speaker 2: to rise up against waws.

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Speaker 3: Obviously that never happened either.

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Speaker 2: But in any case, in the context of botoming all

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Speaker 2: these police stations, they bombed something called police.

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Speaker 3: Park, which is literally just a park.

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Speaker 2: So what seemed to indicate potentially, you know, AI was

476
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Speaker 2: just generating like anything that says police, let's just bomb that.

477
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Speaker 2: There was no intensive human review to find out you're

478
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Speaker 2: literally bombing like a playground in a soccer field or

479
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Speaker 2: something like that, And so they go forward with that

480
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Speaker 2: like how did this happen? Because bombing in an elementary

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Speaker 2: school where you have one hundred and sixty eight girls

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Speaker 2: who are now murdered and more than a dozen of

483
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Speaker 2: their teachers who are now murdered on the very first

484
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Speaker 2: day of the world of the war is a moral atrocity.

485
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Speaker 2: And it also you know, we're going to show you

486
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Speaker 2: some of the hardening of nationalists sentiment within the country.

487
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Speaker 2: Like when you see your little children being murdered at

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Speaker 2: the hands of this you know, enemy government that attacked

489
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Speaker 2: you on the legally attacked you on the blue and

490
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Speaker 2: killed your leader, et cetera. You know, how do you

491
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Speaker 2: think that's going to make people feel? It's going to

492
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Speaker 2: make them much more committed to want to fight and

493
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Speaker 2: die for the cause of their country. So you know,

494
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Speaker 2: just disgusting for Trump to lie and is so honestly,

495
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Speaker 2: so disrespectful to the people of the world and the

496
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Speaker 2: people of this country to think we're just going to

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Speaker 2: buy this bullshit. You know, I'm sure his cult members will,

498
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Speaker 2: but the rest of the country is going to look

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Speaker 2: at this and be like that is utter and complete garbage.

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Speaker 1: Should be horrified by it. I also think that it's

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Speaker 1: a massive disservice to the military. It's one of those

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Speaker 1: where we had a culture originally, and again you can

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Speaker 1: say a lot of bad things about Iraq and Afghanistan,

504
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Speaker 1: but generally there was a culture and I covered many

505
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Speaker 1: of these. Yeah, when you did something like this, you

506
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Speaker 1: were gonna pay.

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Speaker 3: It was a scandal.

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Speaker 2: There was going to be a real investigation. There were

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Speaker 2: likely to be some kind of consequences.

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Speaker 1: And the thing is is that and think about this too.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got the person who probably fired the tomahawk.

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Speaker 1: They've got to live with this forever. The only way

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Speaker 1: that they should be able to live with it is

514
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Speaker 1: to know that there's accountability up the chain of command.

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Speaker 1: Because again, the individual sailors or any of other people

516
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Speaker 1: who fired these they don't know, they're just programming things,

517
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Speaker 1: you know, from the Pentagon. Who in the Pentagon created

518
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Speaker 1: the strike package? What was the process where the strike

519
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Speaker 1: package happened? Remember my Lie? I mean we did a

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Speaker 1: whole after action thing on the my Lie massacre or

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Speaker 1: any of the atrocities, the kun't Dou's hospital. I read

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Speaker 1: the whole report. You can you can google it. You

523
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Speaker 1: can go and read it for yourself. You want to

524
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Speaker 1: know the step by step process. It used to be

525
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Speaker 1: one where we would take this stuff very seriously. Now

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Speaker 1: I was, oh, it was Iran. I mean again the

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Speaker 1: way that you know that it wasn't because I even

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Speaker 1: saw some cope, not even cope. But somebody said, you know,

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Speaker 1: one alternative, which is or even more horrifying, is that

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Speaker 1: whenever we struck Iran previously, that they were able to

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Speaker 1: acquire a dud Tomhawk missile. And I was like, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure that that didn't happen. There would but if

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Speaker 1: it did, that would be as much of a scandal,

534
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Speaker 1: you know. At the same time, but beyond like all

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Speaker 1: of this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so far fast, pretty purpose.

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Speaker 1: It has to be fired and create you know, It's

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Speaker 1: like it's not so simple. It's just like getting a

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Speaker 1: Tomhawk missile. But the whole point around for our military

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Speaker 1: culture is one where you don't want to encourage cover

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Speaker 1: up or you know, or make it so that you

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Speaker 1: don't acknowledge these types of incidents, because we know from

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Speaker 1: our long history that would only encourage and institutionalize a

544
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Speaker 1: bad process, and that's not what we want. It's counter

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Speaker 1: toward strategic games, our tactical aames obviously, and also one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight people are one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: eight little girls are literally dead. It's it's insane not

548
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Speaker 1: to mention what seven US soldiers. I just saw the news.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of those guys who they're claiming one

550
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Speaker 1: of those guys you were claiming had to help died

551
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Speaker 1: of at heltical NYPD, father of six children, you know,

552
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Speaker 1: coming back and in a coffin like it's it's the

553
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Speaker 1: worst possible thing for all of these people who are involved.

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Speaker 2: Last I was just gonna say to your point about

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Speaker 2: you know, look, obviously I have long term critiques of

556
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Speaker 2: the US military and you know, the lack of care

557
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Speaker 2: for civilians and all of that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, the first.

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Speaker 2: Like big video that WikiLeaks published was the Collateral murderer

560
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Speaker 2: video which showed an Apache helicopter targeting you know, journalists

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Speaker 2: and civilians, and that was a massive scandal, you know,

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Speaker 2: and so you know, I think partly too what has

563
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Speaker 2: happened here is with all of us watching the Gaza

564
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Speaker 2: genocide happen on our timelines, they do think that they

565
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Speaker 2: can just get away with anything. And now you see

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Speaker 2: the US directly copying the Israeli tactics of Okay, if

567
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Speaker 2: we do, if we spark a little public outrage, we'll

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Speaker 2: just say, you know, oh, we don't know, maybe it

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Speaker 2: was them. Maybe first we'll try, oh, maybe it was

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Speaker 2: actually the Iranians who bombed their own elementary school. See

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Speaker 2: if people will buy that, and if they won't, then

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Speaker 2: you say, oh, there'll be an investigation, and then you

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Speaker 2: just you know, let the news cycle move on.

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Speaker 3: And that's where we are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Last thing we want to show you was this report

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Speaker 1: from inside of Iran. Doctor Mohammad Moran, now again he

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Speaker 1: joined John Kirkau. We always give the caveat. He's very

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Speaker 1: pro regime. He has sources, though, so we try to

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Speaker 1: try to show show you all sides of the conflict.

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Speaker 1: He says that Iran wants to wait until the midterms

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Speaker 1: are over in order to keep this war going as

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Speaker 1: long as possible. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 6: I've been informed today by a significant political figure that

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Speaker 6: Iran plans to continue this war until the midterms in

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Speaker 6: the United States.

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Speaker 3: And.

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Speaker 6: They will. They are planning to make the United force

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Speaker 6: the United As to leave. And the more this war escalates,

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Speaker 6: the darker it becomes for US allies across the region.

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Speaker 6: For the Arab family dictatorships in the Persian Gulf, this

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Speaker 6: if it continues for much longer, they won't survive. Remember

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Speaker 6: these are all dictatorships, family dictatorships, and the passport holders

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Speaker 6: in these small entities are sometimes ten to fifteen percent

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Speaker 6: of the whole population. So in the Emirates you have

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Speaker 6: one point four million people who are amortis the rest

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Speaker 6: ten million or so. I guess they're they're they're there.

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Speaker 6: But if the state collapses, those slaves and in the

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Speaker 6: indentured servants and the underclass, they may have something to

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Speaker 6: say about the future of Emirates or Patar or Kuwait.

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Speaker 1: So you could see, they're the strategic calculus from side.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing, you don't even really need to

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Speaker 1: trust him. I think you just need to look at

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Speaker 1: their public statements. We're not going to surrender the going

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Speaker 1: after President Trump in retaliation for some sort of fire

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Speaker 1: and fury. I also think everyone should really pay attention

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Speaker 1: to all of our interviews with doctor Treja Parsi, because

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Speaker 1: he was dead on before the war and he's been

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Speaker 1: dead on since. And he's like, look, if they end

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Speaker 1: the war right now, they're going to be very weak.

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Speaker 1: And they believe too in their hearts that the Twelve

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Speaker 1: Day War ending was a disaster because it gave the

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Speaker 1: Israelis in the US time to rearm before they hit

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Speaker 1: them again. How could they possibly have any assurance that

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Speaker 1: they won't get hit again after we bomb them twice twice,

616
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Speaker 1: that we've launched wars with them after, you know, and

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Speaker 1: under the cover of diplomacy, you would never trust that

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Speaker 1: ever again. The only way to make any sort of

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Speaker 1: trust is to inflict maximum damage for as long as possible,

620
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Speaker 1: try and destroy the global economy, like that's their one

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Speaker 1: chance at being able to survive. You've got the new Ayahtola,

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Speaker 1: Who's I mean? I can't even give you the list

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Speaker 1: of how many relatives this guy is dead. I read

624
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Speaker 1: a profile of him yesterday. We really don't know much

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Speaker 1: about him. We only heard his voice once apparently in

626
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Speaker 1: public in twenty twenty four, but the only propaganda video

627
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Speaker 1: of him released is cleaning his gun during the iron

628
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Speaker 1: I Rock War. Not great. Also, somebody who had apparently

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Speaker 1: long fostered relations with the IRGC and tried to put

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Speaker 1: down or you know, bolster some of the hardline factions

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Speaker 1: during protest in nine. So you've got the ideological component,

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Speaker 1: the fact that his you know, his father has been killed,

633
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Speaker 1: his wife, his daughter or sorry, his son, one of

634
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Speaker 1: his children who is killed in this strike. And you're like, oh, man,

635
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Speaker 1: like we're dealing with somebody. If anything, this is the

636
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Speaker 1: guy who's going to repeal a Fatland nuclear weapons You

637
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Speaker 1: could understand from a psychological personal perspective and in ideological

638
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Speaker 1: you've used those two things together, what would you do?

639
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Speaker 2: And a tactical perspective they for this is from their

640
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Speaker 2: own strategic perspective, they should have pursued a nuke that

641
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Speaker 2: would have been a desserent. I mean, so you know

642
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Speaker 2: there have been many hardliners who have you know, pushed

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Speaker 2: in that direction, but it has not happened, I think

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Speaker 2: predominantly because of the fatoua that was issued by the

645
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Speaker 2: now dead Isatola, And so yeah, you could easily see

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Speaker 2: and think of the insanity of that.

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Speaker 3: Think of the insanity of that.

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Speaker 2: So one of the many stated goals of this whole

649
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Speaker 2: war is to prevent them from getting from acquiring a

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Speaker 2: nuclear weapon. And there is a very strong possibility you've

651
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Speaker 2: just made it more likely that they will pursue a

652
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Speaker 2: nuclear weapon, not less. Last thing to your point about

653
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Speaker 2: Tree to Party, I just wanted to read his analysis.

654
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: He posted about the Trump press conference, which was, as

655
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Speaker 2: we said, all over the place. He said, Trump's all

656
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: over the place press or appears to have had two

657
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Speaker 2: key objectives. A call the markets by signaling the conflict

658
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Speaker 2: may student be over because it had been so quote

659
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Speaker 2: unquote successful, And b prepare the ground for Trump ending

660
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Speaker 2: the war through a unilateral declaration of victory. Though ending

661
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Speaker 2: a war that never should have starred in the first place,

662
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Speaker 2: rather than finding endlessly in the pursuit of an illusory

663
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Speaker 2: victory as the US didn't have Afghanistan, is the right move,

664
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Speaker 2: it will not be as easy as Trump appears to think.

665
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Tehran also has a vote, and there is little to

666
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Speaker 2: suggest that it will agree that the war is over,

667
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Speaker 2: and then he goes on to talk more about the

668
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Speaker 2: Iranian perspective. But that is really the bottom line here.

669
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 2: Even if Trump wants to taco, and there are some

670
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: indications here that he and his advisors are trying to

671
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: look for a way to taco, which would be great,

672
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Speaker 2: even if he does that, he may be already in

673
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Speaker 2: a trap. The Iranians do not seem to be in

674
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Speaker 2: any mood to back down. So that is the lay

675
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: of the land as of today. It is, you know,

676
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: looks like we are in an escalation trap. Looks like

677
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: this thing is only expanding, only going to get more

678
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: dead lee, only going to grind on further into you

679
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: know what, may end up being sort of war of

680
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Speaker 2: attrition where you know, that's why we're going to talk

681
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: to Brandon Wikert later on. You know what lasts longer

682
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: our interceptors or their drones, which they're able, by the way,

683
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: to continuously manufacture, which one is willing to bear more pain.

684
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 2: The Iranians, for whom this is literally existential in terms

685
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: of both their lives and their country, Or the Americans

686
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: who do not even want this war and are not

687
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Speaker 2: interested in paying any sort of price for it. You know,

688
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Speaker 2: I think most Americans probably sort of like the idea of, oh,

689
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: the Iranians are bad, let's overflip throw their regime, but

690
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: they do not support this and they're not willing to

691
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Speaker 2: bear much of any cost in order to accomplish the

692
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Speaker 2: ever shifting goals articulated by the Trump regim.

693
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. Let's move on to Israel.

694
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've got, you know, sort of a parallel

695
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: story here going on from the Israelis, where we just

696
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: talked about how some of Trump's aids are leaking to

697
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: the press, like we're trying to figure out how to

698
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: get out of this thing. Well, the Israelis are apparently

699
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: leaking to David Ignatius, who's known to be very like

700
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: tied in with the deep state over at the Washington

701
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Speaker 2: Post that they are also concerned. So this is worth

702
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Speaker 2: taking note of with interest. Put this up on the screen.

703
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 2: So the headline is Israeli officials are growing concerned. A

704
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: bombing campaign nearing its military goals in Iran leaves the

705
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Speaker 2: hardest questions unanswered. A few senior officials in Israel are

706
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: starting to voice concern about the escalating open ended attack

707
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Speaker 2: on Iran and suggesting possible exit ramps that might halt

708
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: the war before it further damages the region and the

709
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Speaker 2: global economy. Talk of an endgame is early, and a

710
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: decision about whether to stop the attacks rests largely with

711
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Speaker 2: President Talton Trump. That's not what he said, by the way,

712
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: in any case, who continues to seek all out victory.

713
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Speaker 2: But in a telephone conversation Sunday, a senior Israeli official

714
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Speaker 2: familiar with the planning and strategy for the want Ron

715
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: war discussed alternatives to Trump's call for unconditional surrender. Official

716
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: requested anonymity, So that is kind of the line coming

717
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 2: out from these Israeli officials is, look, our bases are

718
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: taking you know, direct hits. We're gonna talk later about

719
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 2: the radars that have been damaged. You know, our golf

720
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: allies are really unhappy in a variety of ways.

721
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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that as well.

722
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Speaker 2: But the Israelis are taking active fire in their country,

723
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Speaker 2: and we really don't have a clear view of just

724
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: how much damage has been done. But they have to

725
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Speaker 2: be looking at the same innerce math that we've been

726
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: talking about in the context of this war that we

727
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: talked about in the context of the Twelve Day War

728
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: and going, I'm not sure how much we are able

729
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: or willing to sustain, so they may be you know,

730
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: reportedly after the Twelve Day War was really the Israelis

731
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: who were the ones who said, let's call this quits

732
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Speaker 2: for now, you know, let's come to some sort of

733
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: a ceasefire, let's end these hostilities for now. Over precisely

734
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: some of these same concerns, and I think soccer they

735
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: would probably be happy adopting effectively like a mow the

736
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: lawn strategy, like what they've done in Gaza for years

737
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: and years, where you go in, destabilize, blow a bunch

738
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: of shit up, you know, make it impossible for the

739
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: country of Iran to grow and thrive and succeed, you know,

740
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: create a bunch of chaos, and then once the price

741
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: gets too much to bear for you, or public sentiment

742
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: starts to turn. Global sentiment. It should be clear the

743
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: Israeli public is very much on board with this war,

744
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: but once global sentiment starts to okay, then we'll we'll

745
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: you know, we'll stop for now and then will go

746
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: back in at a future time. That seems to be

747
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: what they're aiming for. But of course, you know, this

748
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: is subject to the same problem that the Trumpian logic

749
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: of you know, if Trump wants to taco is subject

750
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Speaker 2: to as well, which is that they there is another

751
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: party to this. And the Iranians seem to have learned

752
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: a lesson from the Twelve Day War. They seem to

753
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: regret having agreed to that cease fire then, which just

754
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: allowed the Israelis and the Americans to rebuild and re

755
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: equip so that they could come back in with an

756
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,959
Speaker 2: even more aggressive illegal war.

757
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you know, what I see in terms of

758
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: the Israeli strategy is more of an acknowledgment of the

759
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: widening of the conflict. Where I really do It does

760
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Speaker 1: seem to me that the Israelis in the US actually

761
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Speaker 1: believed a lot of their own bs that they wouldn't

762
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: strike elements of the Gulf. They just thought that this

763
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: is a nightmare scenario. Same with the closure of the

764
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: Straits of Hormuz. It was one of those like tail

765
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Speaker 1: end risks, but not something that was really from what

766
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Speaker 1: they were thinking, would happen. I mean. Ignacious even writes

767
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: that the bombing campaign was nearing the point of achieving

768
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Speaker 1: its military objectives. But what they find is that, of

769
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: course we wish to topple the regime, but that's not

770
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Speaker 1: the only endgame. This is the Israeli Once the major

771
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: military targets have been eliminated, Israel would have achieved its goals.

772
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: Iran won't surrender, but it can send messages to accept

773
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: a ceasefire within US conditions. But what that ignores is

774
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Speaker 1: how the Iranians are going to respond number one, and

775
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: they've already gone for the max strategy. But two, I

776
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: think what they're also saying from the Israeli perspective is

777
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, man, now we're tied at the hip

778
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: here with the United States, with Trump, we're tied at

779
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: the hip. Obviously with them, they want to declare this

780
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: some sort of regime change, but they're also learning as

781
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Speaker 1: we continue to see their strikes all over Israel. I. Mean, look,

782
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: the war has already widened. Israeli soldiers have even been killed.

783
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 1: Now with Hesbola, they're having to expand into Lebanon. And

784
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: what they like, as you said, is having the boogeyman exists.

785
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: But if they actually go forward, then what are they

786
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: going to do? They can't rile up their whole population

787
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: every few years and say, oh, well, we have to

788
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: go bomb them because of their nuclear threat. If they

789
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: actually did replace the regime, then they would have first

790
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: of all, we'd have to live with their consequences, and

791
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: people could see how much of a nightmare that it's

792
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: all become. But I think more than anything, this is

793
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: probably more about munitions math, and it's about defense readiness

794
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: and the reality of a long war and what it's

795
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: all going to look like.

796
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

797
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: Well, and there were also some indications before Trump kicked off.

798
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 3: This war that it was the Israelis.

799
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 2: Again, this was some reporting that came out, you know, Yahoo,

800
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: come to know visit Trump in December, and it looks

801
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: like that's when they made.

802
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: The decision like, okay, we're going to go to war

803
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: and all.

804
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: In my opinion, all the negotiations were totally fake, as

805
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: evidenced by the fact that they sent two guys who

806
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: really didn't know what they were talking about in order

807
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: to lead these alleged negotiations. And of course, while you're

808
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: in the midst of these negotiations and the Iranians have

809
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: just given up more concessions than they have ever had,

810
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: that's the moment when you choose to actually start the war.

811
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 2: But in any case, there was reporting that it was

812
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: actually the Israelis that were like, way, we were not

813
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: ready to start yet, and the US moved even more

814
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: firepower into the region, moved another carrier strike group into

815
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: the region, and so the alleged diplomacy was to kind

816
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 2: of run out the clock so that the war could

817
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: start at a time when we would be somewhat more prepared.

818
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: Just imagine how disasters.

819
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: This would have been if it started even earlier, when

820
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: we were less prepared, given what a disaster it already is.

821
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, the Israelis are the ones taking

822
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: the direct hits in their country, and so they've now

823
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: realized that I don't know if they ever believe they

824
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: probably didn't, that if they decapitated the regime that the

825
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: whole thing would collapse. But once that has not come

826
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: to fruition, there's no signs that you're going to have

827
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Speaker 2: some sort of you.

828
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 3: Know, regime change.

829
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: The Kurds are like, we're not getting involved here, You're

830
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: you know, not looking at civil war conditions at this point.

831
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: Then the next best option.

832
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: For Israel is to say, okay, well, we blew up

833
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of shit. You know, Iran has paid a price.

834
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: We'll back off for now, and then we'll come back later.

835
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: You know, we'll do the same thing. We got Trump

836
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: in office for a few more years we can, you know,

837
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 2: later on, we'll talk them into this again. We'll once

838
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: again threaten to strike heron if he doesn't well once again,

839
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: you know, talk about how they're rebuilding the nuclear program.

840
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 2: By the way, that might be true now all given

841
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: the logic that we have created, it gives them every

842
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: incentive to go in that direction. So I think that's

843
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: some of the calculus there. At the same time, we

844
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: wanted to take a look at our friend Lindsey Graham,

845
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: who we covered yesterday, you know, reporting about We already

846
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: knew he was very influential in terms of pushing for

847
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: this war. This is a near lifelong dream at this point.

848
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: There is no one happier, I think, on the planet

849
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: right now than this bloodthirsty ghoul. And so he was,

850
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 2: you know, making the rounds over on Fox News yesterday,

851
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: just talking about how much he is committed to Israel,

852
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: how much he loves Israel, et cetera.

853
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take a listen to that.

854
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 5: All the anti seminis to all the isolationists, I don't believe.

855
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 5: Forget it. I'm not with you, I'm with Israel. I

856
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 5: will be with Israel to our dying day. They're the

857
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 5: best ally we could hope for. So we have a

858
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 5: commander in chief in President Trump, who I think is

859
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 5: Ronald W. Reagan plus plus plus.

860
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 7: God bless is right.

861
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 5: We should move all our stuff to Israel.

862
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 3: Thank you, God bless is should be of all our

863
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: stuff to Israel. I'll be with Israel to my dying day.

864
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a United States senator. Him and

865
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Speaker 2: Ted Cruz both ound there are just openly admitting that

866
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 2: this is their number one priority. Calling Trump Ronald Reagan

867
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 2: plus is also really something. And it's important to play

868
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: these comments and understand this man's mindset because he has

869
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: been very influential. He had a plan to push Trump

870
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 2: in this direction. Again, Trump's a big boy. This is

871
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 2: his fault ultimately, and the reporting is that he ended

872
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: up being pretty enthusiastic about going in this direction. But

873
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 2: Lindsey Graham has been there making the case routinely religiously

874
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: for years now at this point, and so in a

875
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 2: lot of ways, you know, he is he is driving

876
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: this trainer. At least he is incredibly important in terms

877
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 2: of why we ended up being this whole.

878
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: It's twenty Magus like, come, President Trump, please keep Lindsey

879
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: Graham off the air. He's hurting your case. I'm like, no, no, no, no,

880
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: He's the only fucker whos canelling us all the truth, Okay,

881
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: that he's in here with a blood relationship with They

882
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 1: have got some like Angelina, Jolie, Billy Bob Thornton wearing

883
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: each other's blood around their necks, some satanic ritual that's

884
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: going on between the two of them. I don't you know,

885
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: we'll only speculate, but that's what's really going on with

886
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: old Lindsay and Israel. But that's that's the truth. You know.

887
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: Yesterday Lewer Ingram even had Ted Cruz on her show

888
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: and she's like, you don't think it's a little weird

889
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: that Lindsay Graham is going over to Israel and she know,

890
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: coordinating with their intelligence agencies on how to pressure the president. Well,

891
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: he loves America, that's what Ted Cruz, because he loves America. No,

892
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He even said at one point in the interview,

893
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 1: He's like I'm going back to South Carolina to convince

894
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 1: them to send their sons and daughters to the Mid East.

895
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 3: I am just like God.

896
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: But luck Yeah, and look, people of South Carolina. At

897
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: this point, you guys have had plenty of chances. I

898
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell you guys are doing down there,

899
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: But you know, the real point that remains is that

900
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: we are in some suicidal blood packed with this country.

901
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: A significant part of our electorate is either compromised or ideological.

902
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: For him, I do think it's ideological one because he's

903
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: been saying.

904
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: From column A little from column B.

905
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, who knows, right, But

906
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean he's been saying in for twenty thirty years

907
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: like this is his entire worldview. But it does demonstrate

908
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: the you know, what we're all into. And the Israelis

909
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: may say to David Ignatius that they're a little worried,

910
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: but their calculus is always escalate, escalate, escalate, escalate. And

911
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: you can also see how in the Gulf we are

912
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: dramatically losing a lot of our allies, like let's go

913
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: and put to the next one, please be three good example.

914
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: So you have the UAE, which says that the Emirates

915
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: reaffirms their commitment not to allow their airspace, territory waters

916
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: to be used for any military actions against Iran. Now

917
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: it's not even true, right, because you can already see

918
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: that there has obviously been you know, a lot of

919
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: launchers and other things, who knows, even with their own base.

920
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: But what they're trying to do is signal to Iran

921
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: that they have nothing to do with this. You've also

922
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: had multiple instances now where the U is upset with

923
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: Israel because they're saying, oh, hey, ISRAELI stop trying to

924
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: leak that we are responsible for some attack on a

925
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: desalination plan, and even the Iranians are responding. Recently, the

926
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: Pentagon posted a picture of some missile batteries that were

927
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: in the desert, and the Iranian foreign minister was like,

928
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: thank you for confirming that you have these weapons on

929
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: their soil, which is the exact reason that we are

930
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: striking you.

931
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,479
Speaker 2: But the point Trump and his pressery yesterday said that

932
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: Golf Indras States had launched attacks, right.

933
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows if that's true or not. Probably

934
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: true if you ask me. But let's go to the

935
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: next part because this is very interesting. This was passed

936
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: around everywhere and referenced it a little bit in our show.

937
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: Is this UAE billionaire who has been accusing the US

938
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: of dragging the region into the war and rejecting calls

939
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: from the Gulf States to join. He'd gave this long

940
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: missive I'm sure you saw it, criticized Trump, who authorized

941
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: you to drag our region into war? And as I

942
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: explained yesterday, there's no such thing as like an independent

943
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: billionaire in these countries, like you only speak and you

944
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: do it twice, especially if the government is like, yeah, man,

945
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: go ahead. All of your you know, it's like China,

946
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: like business is part of the state. That's literally how

947
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: they wield all of their power. It's all in, it's

948
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: intertwined for their own national interests. He is giving you know,

949
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: these long like Bill Ackman style essays about how bad

950
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: America's decision is, how dangerous it is, how they've weakened

951
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: their country, how they have to question their alliances, how

952
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: they're not going to join you know, the Gulf the

953
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: rest of the Golf States and being dragged in. It's

954
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: the last all they want is for this conflict to end.

955
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: And you can see why I mean look at this map.

956
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one, guys, just to show

957
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: you all. I mean, look at I mean to describe

958
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: this as not a regional a slash global war at

959
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 1: this point is preposterous. If you're watching our show, look

960
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: at the arrows of all of the different countries that

961
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: have either been attacked or been backed by or sorry

962
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: attacked by the United States, Israel, whether they've been bombed,

963
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: whether Iran has bombed them, the type of rockets, the

964
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: number of strikes, and we're talking about thousands at this

965
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: point of munitions that have all crossed all of these

966
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: different borders just in the span of what like ten

967
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: days that we've gone now so far, I believe that

968
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: the number is now twenty different countries that are now

969
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: directly or indirectly involved in this conflict. It's completely I mean,

970
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: it's gone literally global cypersts. Obviously, the French, the entire

971
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: French navy is on its way right now down to

972
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: the Middle East. It's literally a catastrophe and it's only

973
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: been ten days. Yeas crazy.

974
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: Well, and to go back to our friend Lindsay Graham,

975
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 2: I don't know who this man thinks he is, but

976
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: he's out there directly like threatening Saudi Arabian offering them

977
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: certain defense agreements if they go along and fully participate

978
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: in the bombing campaign.

979
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: This is B two. Let's go and take a listen

980
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: to that.

981
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: I only do my friends in Saudi Arabia.

982
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 5: I've been your biggest champion. I think the Crown Prince

983
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 5: has taken Saudi Arabia in a completely different direction, in

984
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 5: a good way. But here's what I want to say

985
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 5: to Saudi Arabia to night. I'm willing to do a

986
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 5: mutual defense agreement with your country to give you protection

987
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 5: and perpetuity. Under the agreement I've been pushing and I

988
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 5: hope we can continue to talk about if you're attacked

989
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 5: by Ran, we would go to war for you.

990
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 3: Who are you?

991
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: I said, you said that you're.

992
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: Not like, you're not the president, you're not in the cabinet,

993
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: you're not the Secretary of War, you're not the secretary

994
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: of State. You're now freelancing offering defense agreements to various countries.

995
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: And I think the Saudi piece, though, is really important.

996
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 2: I understand why he's so upset about it because there

997
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: was some reporting that Saudi was low key or high

998
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: key interested in this war, supportive of this war. I

999
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: don't know whether that's true or not. The Saudi's denied it.

1000
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 2: It could have been, you know, a sort of a

1001
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: planted story. But in any case, they have a long

1002
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 2: term rivalry with Iran, so they also stand to benefit

1003
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: if Iran and if the Iranian government is weakened.

1004
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 3: But at the same.

1005
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: Respect, you know, they are feeling very exposed. They don't

1006
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: want their country to continue to be attacked. And so

1007
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: even Saudi Arabia, which of course has been a very solid,

1008
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: long time ally of the US, probably our biggest, you know,

1009
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: one of our biggest allies in the region, our biggest

1010
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: outside of Israel, if they're even doing the calculus of

1011
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: like I don't know if we really want to be

1012
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: involved with this, that shows you the thinking here and

1013
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: for i Ran, you know, winning this war for Iran

1014
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: just means survival, right That's the ultimate goal, is just

1015
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: surviving the onslaught and being able to continue with this

1016
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 2: particular governmental regime. That's what winning looks like. But the

1017
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: bigger aspirational goal would be to push the US out

1018
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: of some of these countries in the region, And you know,

1019
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 2: it seems far fetched at this point. But if you're Saudi,

1020
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 2: if you're UAE in particular, and you're looking at the

1021
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 2: fact that you thought you were getting protection from the

1022
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: US and instead it's made you a target, well that

1023
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: is going to change your calculus. That is going to

1024
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 2: change how you're thinking about your relationship with this country

1025
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: and what you're getting out of it. There was that

1026
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 2: wasn't a Saudi analyst. It went on you know, Al

1027
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: Jazeera and was like was like, they're protect They're not

1028
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 2: protecting us, They're protecting the Israelis. That's their number one priority.

1029
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 2: And again that wouldn't have been said if it was

1030
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: not sort of permitted in greenlit by the government. So

1031
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: they're feeling very exposed. They're begging to be able to

1032
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: buy more interceptors. We're like not in We've like ghosted them,

1033
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: not answering their phone calls. Sorry, we don't have any

1034
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 2: available to sell you. And if we did, we would

1035
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: you know, prioritize Israel over you. And they are feeling

1036
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: like we instead of getting protection to the US, we

1037
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: have been destroyed. And for you know, for UAE Dubai,

1038
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: like these places are not going to recover all these

1039
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: influencers who brought in all these wealthy expats. They are

1040
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: all fleeing, leaving their dogs behind by the way, which

1041
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: disgusting to you know, tying them to just like dropping

1042
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: them off at shelters that are overfull and tying them

1043
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 2: to lampposts and whatever and just abandoning them there. But

1044
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 2: in any case, they're all fleeing. The brand damage that

1045
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 2: Dubai and these other locales are sustaining is going to

1046
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: be irreparable. I mean, you're talking about generations before that

1047
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: goes back to the image that it had previously. So yeah,

1048
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 2: I understand why he's upset because this is not the

1049
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 2: reaction that he wanted from these Gulf states as they

1050
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: recalculate exactly what they're doing with their US defense partnerships.

1051
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: It is scary. One of the things I've been holding this.

1052
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: We're but to talk about this with Brandon Wiker, but

1053
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: just to give you some more global picture, just this morning,

1054
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: South Korea and the United States confirming that significant parts

1055
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: of their THAD batteries those interceptors will be taken from

1056
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,280
Speaker 1: the South Korean Peninsula for the Middle East, in addition

1057
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: to Patriot interceptors all across the Indo Pacific region. So

1058
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: we have burned through five point six billion in munitions

1059
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: in two days, the first two days of the war.

1060
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: Five point six billion dollars the munitions disaster. We will

1061
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: never know the full picture because they're just going to

1062
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: classify it to hell. Look at the actions. When you

1063
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: start pulling stuff out of South Korea, that means you've

1064
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: burned through the stockpile to the point where you think

1065
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: it's going to be critical and you're going to have

1066
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: to use it one more week. It's been only been

1067
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 1: ten days and we already have to do this. How

1068
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: are we going to We're going to fight a war

1069
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: with China? I mean, well, that's the that's the like

1070
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: the joke of this entire thing.

1071
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 3: Forget about it.

1072
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean, and that also underscores that we've been talking about, Okay,

1073
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 2: roughly a billion dollars a day to fund.

1074
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: This that's not even true.

1075
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 3: Definitely, what is that if you're.

1076
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: Talking about just five point six billion in just munitions.

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Speaker 2: I mean, God only knows what oil costs.

1078
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: During the war in Afghanistan, the estimate was that for

1079
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: every soldier down range it was one million dollars in

1080
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: order to keep them, and we had one hundred thousand

1081
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: or some people. So you could do the math and

1082
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: on how that works out, but it is, it is

1083
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: such a nightmare for defense readiness for all these allies.

1084
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: This is going to seriously rewrite the entire way. A

1085
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 1: lot of countries look at us, and it was all preventable.

1086
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: That's the craziest by choice, literal choice preventable. All right,

1087
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: let's get to Iran.

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00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 2: All right, so we've covered the Americans, cover the Israelis.

1089
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 2: Let's talk about how the Iranians are thinking about this war.

1090
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: Right now, CNN has a reporter on the ground who

1091
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: was able to interview a top foreign policy advisor to

1092
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: the Iyatola about their war aims and how they're looking

1093
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: at things at this point. Let's take a listen to that.

1094
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 7: So the United States, it's drastically degraded the Iranian military,

1095
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 7: the capabilities as far as missiles, it's concerned, drones is concerned.

1096
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 7: How much longer can you do this?

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00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 8: That is one of the false narratives that the United

1098
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 8: States government is producing. Iranian military is quite strong, as

1099
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 8: you see, because they have the motivation, they have the

1100
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 8: arms that they need, which are producing Iran as a

1101
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 8: matter of we are not dependent on any other country

1102
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 8: for weapons on.

1103
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 7: Arms, So your side is ready for a long war

1104
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 7: if the United States and Israel choose that. Do you

1105
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 7: consider this an existential threat to the Islamic Republic.

1106
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 8: It is an extensional threat today is from the Republic,

1107
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 8: and therefore we have to say it's full might as

1108
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 8: we are doing now.

1109
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 7: Is your side seeking or will you seek a ceasefire?

1110
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 7: With the United States at this point in time and

1111
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 7: with Israel.

1112
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 8: I don't see any room for diplomacy anymore because DONALDS

1113
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 8: Frum have been deceiving others and not keeping his promises,

1114
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 8: and we experienced this in two times of negotiations that

1115
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 8: while we were nicaged in negotiation.

1116
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: I mean that last part there is just in controvertible

1117
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: fact that we have repeatedly used the promise as of

1118
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: diplomacy as a ruse and a cover to actually commit

1119
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: acts of war. So you know, it's not surprising that's

1120
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 2: the way they're thinking about it. And of course the Iranians,

1121
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: you know, they want to project strength, they wanted project stability.

1122
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: That is all in their interest. And of course you

1123
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: should take any mine official, whether it's ours, the Israelis,

1124
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: or the Iranians with a million grains of salt. But

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00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: I think that the logic is pretty straightforward. They just

1126
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: need to survive. They understand they cannot allow Israel and

1127
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: the US to walk away now having sustained some blow.

1128
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 3: But nothing really significant.

1129
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: You know, American consumers are not super feeling the pain

1130
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 2: at the pump quite yet. The markets are volatile, but

1131
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 2: they're just sort of roiling rain.

1132
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: You haven't had a huge collapse.

1133
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: You have not had enough pain to deter either the

1134
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: US or America from doing this or sorry, the US

1135
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 2: or Israel. They're one and the same at this point,

1136
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: I guess, from doing the same thing again. And so

1137
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 2: I believe them when they say, look, we are locked

1138
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: in for a long war. This is what we are planning,

1139
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 2: and so listen. They have surely sustained significant blows, right.

1140
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: I think the Navy has been significantly degraded. I think

1141
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 2: we have hit a lot of the visible missile launching sites.

1142
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 2: I think we've all seeing the images of Tehran, these

1143
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: apocalyptic images that you know, effectively carpet bombing. The number

1144
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 2: of sites, thousands of targets hit, et cetera. So I'm

1145
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 2: not saying they haven't been hit hard, but they are

1146
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 2: fighting an asymmetric war where what we have to do

1147
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: is I mean, the goals are shifting on a daily basis.

1148
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 2: We got a new list of supposed goals this morning

1149
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: in this press conference. But what we have to do

1150
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: requires extraordinary acts, including very likely putting ground troops on,

1151
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: you know, inside of Iran in order to you know,

1152
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: grab the loose nuclear material or foem and some sort

1153
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: of regime change or whatever. And all they have to

1154
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: do is hold on and make the price unbearably high.

1155
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 3: For us and for the Israel.

1156
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: It's a fight of survival versus a fight basically of

1157
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: choice of convenience. It's like a side quest basically. Yeah,

1158
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: that's right at this point. I mean, and that's why

1159
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: I use legacy, and Trump's legacy, Israel's existential biblical fantasies.

1160
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: Israel's like Third Temple fantasies. But for us, I mean,

1161
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: for me, seven killed too many. For them, they've lost

1162
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: over one thousand people. They barely even blinking an eye.

1163
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we remember, if you roll the tape, we

1164
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: were like, look, guys, they are prepared to take ninety

1165
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: percent casualties at the top. They are ready to fight

1166
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: to the death. I do not think that we understand.

1167
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,280
Speaker 1: We haven't fought an enemy like that, well actually recently

1168
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: with the Taliban, but like really at a large industrial

1169
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: scale since Vietnam, to like really understand what it means. Remember,

1170
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: we won the tactical war in Vietnam. Every time I

1171
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: make the joke about mac V Tehran, the joke is

1172
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: that it's called Military Assistance Command Vietnam, and this what

1173
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: they would do in the Vietnam Wars. Today, we killed

1174
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty VC in the firm and we

1175
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: dropped X amount of bombs, the same amount of bombs

1176
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: that we dropped on Dresden some twenty years ago in America.

1177
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: Was like wow, yeah, like we killed two hundred and fifty.

1178
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: Statistics were all fake, but the point was like did

1179
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: it work? No, I mean, we ended up losing the

1180
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: war in Vietnam. We dropped x amount of munitions in

1181
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: Operation Rolling Thunder than the tire Second World War, and

1182
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: everyone was like wow, like, look at us taking the

1183
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 1: fight to North Vietnam and the North Vietnam ameers were like,

1184
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: we don't care. We'll take a million casualties and we're

1185
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: just gonna keep fighting. They're like, this is a war

1186
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: of colonialism to the death, and whatever it takes, no

1187
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: matter what, we will outlast you until our you know,

1188
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: their leader literally died and they kept the war going forever.

1189
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: They won that war. That's all you have to do. Survive, survive,

1190
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: and ultimately that's how you're able to beat you know,

1191
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: the same with Afghanistan, not just US Soviet Union. How

1192
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: did the Soviet Union, I wouldn't say it broke their back,

1193
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: but it really hurt them with their ten year long engagement.

1194
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: They blew the shit out of that country. And you know,

1195
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: if you think Israel is unrestrained, the Soviets fought that

1196
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: way in Afghanistan. They didn't care at all. They murdered

1197
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: women and children, bombing campaigns, helicopter d brutal, brutal stuff.

1198
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: They still lost, right, and that was just the Taliban,

1199
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: that was just generic Moujahadeen funded by the United States.

1200
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: So you can see the storybook, you know, for all

1201
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 1: of this over the years, which is why for them.

1202
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: That's another thing, why do we not give credit to

1203
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: our enemies, like we look at them as barbarian you know, idiots,

1204
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: or say in one of the you know, like all

1205
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 1: the stuff I grew up in the mid two thousands

1206
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: hearing about these people. The current Iyatola, he speaks fluent English.

1207
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: If you're wondering, do you hear that guy too? These

1208
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: people are very well educated. They're not, you know, stupid.

1209
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 1: They've studied us for a long time. Forty seven years

1210
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: that we're always talking about, Well that's forty seven years

1211
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: of us studying them in forty seven years of them

1212
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: studying us. These are highly educated people who have thought

1213
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 1: a lot about their collective defense. Now listen, I'm not

1214
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: going to defend every decision they make. I think they

1215
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: made a lot of screw ups along the way, but

1216
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: we are where we are. Like, you have to respect

1217
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: your enemy and the people who you are fighting.

1218
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 3: Yea.

1219
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: And it is very clear after only ten days that

1220
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: this has not gone the way that we thought it would,

1221
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: and that they have operated not just militarily but strategically.

1222
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: Their you know, their ability to draw the whole region

1223
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: into a conflict, to plunge into global chaos was exactly

1224
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: what you would do if you're trying to fight asymmetric war.

1225
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: Even the drone program. You have to give credit where

1226
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: it's due. They studied the environment, and they go, Okay,

1227
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of money. What's there, you know,

1228
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: critical Where can we strike them in an asymmetric fashion?

1229
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: Billion dollar bad system. Ah, We'll create these drones and

1230
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: they will battle test them in Ukraine with our Russian friends,

1231
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: and we'll get years and years of targeting data and

1232
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: see how they can get shot down and refine the

1233
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: process and all that. I mean, that's a smart military strategy.

1234
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: That's what you do when you're expecting a conflict with

1235
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: the West. And obviously that has been the number one

1236
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: problem that we face now on the battlefield. So you

1237
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: have to respect these people because if you don't, you're

1238
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: going to fall into some propaganda you know, effort or whatever,

1239
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: and that's how you end up with tons of casualties.

1240
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 2: Well, and I do want to emphasize the military top

1241
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: brass new that this would be a problem, right, They

1242
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: understood that there were incredible vulnerabilities here for the US.

1243
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: They at least had some sense, seemingly. I mean they,

1244
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 2: you know, were leaking to a number of newspapers exactly

1245
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 2: some of the problems that we have in fact encounter.

1246
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 2: But I think you know, because you have Trump who

1247
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: has this messianic view of himself and who feels like, oh,

1248
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: all the experts told me that I couldn't do X

1249
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 2: and Y and Z, and I did it anyway, and

1250
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: I was proven right.

1251
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 3: He just was not.

1252
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 2: He did not want to hear it, and he wouldn't

1253
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 2: hear it. He thought, oh, well, you know, I had

1254
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 2: all these people warning that it would be a disaster

1255
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 2: in Venezuela, and it went so well. And all these

1256
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: people warning, all these Panicans warning before the Twelve Day

1257
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: War in Iran, and look at what a glorious success

1258
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: that was and how I got to have my mission

1259
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: accomplished moment. So I'm just going to go back in.

1260
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, my friend BB is telling me

1261
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: that this is going to go great. So we're going

1262
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 2: to do it all over again. And I think to

1263
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: your point, you know, the internal view of the Iranians

1264
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: is that they are not stupid, that they are you know,

1265
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 2: an adversary that is capable of larning and strategic thought, etc.

1266
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 2: What is sold to the American people is that they're

1267
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: just crazy, you know, theocratic mad men, and so they're

1268
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 2: it's totally irrational and you can't deal with them, and

1269
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,880
Speaker 2: I think Trump, because he's a stupid and uneducated person,

1270
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: basically bought the public story about what the Iranian government was.

1271
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: And again I'm sure is being fed that by Lindsay

1272
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: Graham and by bb Net, Nahoo, et cetera. And so

1273
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: he comes in like a bowl in a china shop

1274
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: and now has found himself in a trap that he

1275
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: cannot figure out how to get out of. And you know,

1276
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 2: one of I think the probably tactical mistakes from the

1277
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 2: Americans and the Israelis was assassinating the Iatola.

1278
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 3: We could put C two up on the screen.

1279
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: There were gigantic celebrations in the street in Tehran celebrating

1280
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: the you know, the naming of the new Ayatola, of course,

1281
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 2: the son of the previous Ayatola. And so quite contrary

1282
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: to the idea that there was going to be some

1283
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 2: uprising against the government and that this government would fall,

1284
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: in fact you've had the predictable opposite impact, which is

1285
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: a hardening of nationalists sentiment. Now that doesn't mean there

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Speaker 2: aren't still plenty of people in Iran who are not

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Speaker 2: happy with the you know, Islamic theocratic regime, who would

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Speaker 2: like ultimately some sort of different form of government. But

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Speaker 2: right now you and your family and your country are

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Speaker 2: under attack. Of course there's going to be a rally

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Speaker 2: around the flag effect. Of course that is going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And that's much more of what we're seeing, at least

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Speaker 2: manifesting visibly in the streets is a hardening and a

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01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 2: support for the existing government. Trump floated, Hey, maybe, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll assassinate this new guy as well. You know,

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Speaker 2: if he doesn't play ball with us, which of course

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Speaker 2: he's not going to, they could well do that. They

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Speaker 2: could well accomplish that. You think that that's going to

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Speaker 2: be the end of the you know, this particular Iranian regime.

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Speaker 3: No, of course not. They would just appoint a new one.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you know this is the case because

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Speaker 2: you see how they operated with Hamas, the number of

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Speaker 2: times that they killed, you know, all the senior leadership,

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01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: whether they were political leadership or military leadership.

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Speaker 3: Did that destroy Hamas?

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Speaker 2: No, and the Iranians are much better funded and are

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01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: much more sort of deeply entrenched frankly than Hamas's. You

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Speaker 2: can see with Hesbula as well, they thought Hesbela was

1309
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: dead and gone. I think the Israeli public thought basically

1310
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 2: HESBUL after the whole deeper attack.

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Speaker 3: That that was it, end of story.

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Speaker 2: Heswell is able to fight back against the Israeli incursion

1313
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Speaker 2: into Lebanon right now, and the Israelis the IDF on

1314
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: the ground are sustaining some significant blows at the hands

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Speaker 2: of HESBLA right now. So were they set back? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Was there a time period were they're extremely weakened?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Are they as strong as they were before? Probably not.

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Speaker 2: Are they still able to exist as as a coherent

1319
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Speaker 2: organization and strike some blows against you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And the Iranians are much better equipped to sustain

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Speaker 2: these blows than either of those organizations.

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Speaker 1: That's all very very true. Last thing I think C

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Speaker 1: four let's put this up there on the screen from

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Speaker 1: drop site, they spoke with Iranian officials, senior official there

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Speaker 1: saying it is unlikely Iran would accept any temporary deal

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Speaker 1: that leaves open the possibility that another war could be

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Speaker 1: launched in the near future. Iran will not accept any

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01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: ceasefire at this stage because what is pursuing is not

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Speaker 1: a mere end to hostilities, which canon will be easily

1331
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: broken by Israel in the US, but it determs restoring

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Speaker 1: outcome that creates the conditions for lasting, enforceable settlement. The

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01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: strategic logic is it holding out now despite the cost,

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Speaker 1: is the precondition for an agreement that actually holds. So look,

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Speaker 1: I mean we box them in to a single corner,

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Speaker 1: and when you do that, you can't You just have

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Speaker 1: to sit there and take the pain for as long

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Speaker 1: as possible and hope that the other side gives out.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think it's coming.

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Speaker 2: And they want to give us a taste of our

1341
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: own medicine in terms of the economic warfare that we've

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01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 2: been waging against them for decades. They know that they

1343
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 2: have control over this incredibly important strategic choke point. Now

1344
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: this is going to be very damaging to their economy

1345
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 2: as well, but again for them, it's ex istential. For us,

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01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 2: we don't even want to be doing this. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're like, look, two hundred dollars a barrel or well

1348
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Speaker 2: you want that, Let's keep going, keep doing it, Let's

1349
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: continue in this direction because we are going to make

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Speaker 2: you pay.

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Speaker 3: And I just will you know, remind that we.

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Speaker 2: Played earlier that side of a professor who has some

1353
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Speaker 2: contacts within the Iranian government, who was based in Tehran,

1354
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: saying we want to be in this at least until

1355
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Speaker 2: the mid terms. They want there to be an economic price,

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Speaker 2: devastating economic price. But all of us, by the way,

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Speaker 2: all of you out there are going to pay, and

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Speaker 2: the entire world, frankly is going to pay. They want

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Speaker 2: there to be a devastating economic price and a devastating

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Speaker 2: political price for this president and his party.

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Speaker 3: So that's what they're committed to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to Brandon Wiker. He's a great military analyst,

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Speaker 1: break down everything that's happening with Iran. Let's get to it.