1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: dot com, the radio plus mobile LAP and on your radio. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash and I'm Karen Moscow. 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: This updates brought to you bi Sector spider e t F. 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: So why buy a single stock and you can invest 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: in the entire sector? Visits sector spd r S dot 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: com or call six sector et F. The aftershocks of 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: the UK's vote to leave the European Union reverberating across 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: financial markets after a weekend of political turmoil. The pound 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: is extending its records sell off. European equities are dropping 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: to levels last seen in February. U S Dock Index 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: Future is also lower. We checked the markets every fifteen 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: minutes throughout the trading day on Bloomberg snp E Many 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: futures down twelve and a half points, Dowly Many futures 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: down one hundred sixteen Nasadaki, Many futures down thirty two 16 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 1: docks in Germany's down two point one per cent. So 17 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: is the foot sea one hundred ten your treasury of seconds. 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: The yield one point four seven percent yield on the 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: two year point five seven percent NIMAX screwed oil down 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: two point two per cent or a dollar two to 21 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: forty six sixty two. A barrel Comax gold is of 22 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: nine tenths per cent or eleven dollars eighty cents to 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: thirteen thirty four twenty and ounce. The euro a dollar 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,279 Speaker 1: oh nine seven six, the British pound a dollar thirty 25 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: one eighty two, and the yen one oh one point 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: five seven. Mettronics saying it'll buy Hardware International of Framingham, 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: Massachusetts for about one point one billion dollars. Hardware up 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: ninety two percent in early trading. PepsiCo plenty to revamp 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: its lineup of diet colas, including renaming one product and 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: releasing an older formulation of another in a bid to 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: revive sales. And that's a bloomberg business flash. Tom and 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: Mike Karen, thank you very much. We are watching futures 33 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: turn around now and start to deteriorate again. S ANDP 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: features off by twelve about six tenths of eight percent. 35 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: It's a seven tenths decline for Doubt features there down 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: a hundred and twelve points right now. And ASDAK features 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: off by thirty one three quarters of eight percent. The 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 1: foot set down hundred and twenty five points the pound 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: at one. The Bloomberg Futures Report is brought to you 40 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: by Interactive Brokers at CME Group. 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The current mess in the EU is the result. 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: There's a reason nineteenth century architects of fledgling states spent 50 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: so much time and effort in nurturing national identity, but 51 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: the EU never did that work. No one identifies themselves 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: as European when you ask where they're from, and while 53 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: an EU white soccer team would be invincible, who would 54 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: root for it? These sorts of tribal affiliations do cause problems, 55 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: which is why elites were so eager to tamp them down. Unfortunately, 56 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: they're also what glues polities together and makes people willing 57 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: to sacrifice. Elites missed this because they're the one group 58 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: that has a transnational identity, and in fact, the arguments 59 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: for the EU look a lot like the old arguments 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: for national states. It empowers us against them. Unhappily, for elits, 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: there's no Cosmopolistan to which they can move. They have 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: to live in physical places filled with other people whose 63 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: loyalties are to a particular place in way of life, 64 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: not the joys of rootless cosmopolitanism. So it would be 65 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: folly to let their fledgling identity drive them into a 66 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: war with the neighbors they can't win. Has happened with 67 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: so many new states in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. 68 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: Trying to reforge common identities with those neighbors instead of 69 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: demonizing them would be a good idea. Unfortunately, it's not 70 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: clear that transnationalism is any more capable of tempering its 71 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: own accesses than the nationalism that preceded it. On Megan 72 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: McCardell from more View, Please go to Bloomberg View dot 73 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: com review go on the Bloomberg terminal. This has been 74 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: Bloomberg View Blomberview commentaries can be heard hourly weekdays on 75 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Bloemberg Radio. The highlight this morning, besides headlines worth these 76 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: in Europe, has been European banking. I don't know if 77 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: they describe it as highlight. Well, it has been important headlines. 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: There's a headline from Miracle, there's a headline here, there's 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: a headline there. There are no headlines from the European bankers. 80 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: Christopher Wheeler has given us terrific perspective this weekend and 81 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: before with Atlantic Equities. Christopher Wheeler, you've worked at major 82 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: London banks, You've studied their financials. What are the bankers 83 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: of Europe doing right now? What what do they do 84 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: when they see their equity a road as it's a 85 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: roading Well, I think first of all, obviously they try 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: and reassure their customers and their staff that the business 87 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: as usual and this is a blip caused by a 88 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: single event. Of course, as we all know, single events 89 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: have a habit of turning into something rather than uglier 90 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,679 Speaker 1: exactly time. At the same time, undoubtedly there's an awful 91 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: lot of work being done on making sure the bank's 92 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: liquidity is making sure they stay close to their clients 93 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: and obviously reviewing the closely the loan book. How close 94 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: are we to bank ballards or nationalization? Look, I think 95 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: that at the moment is highly unlikely because I think 96 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: the capital position at the moment and Tom, you know, 97 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: if your stocks is thirty percent down in theory, that 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: tells you learning is going to fall by or more. 99 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't see that at the moment. But the capital 100 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: is leasingly strong or very strong in most case some 101 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 1: cases strong liquidity um and you know, pretty decent leverage. 102 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: This is uh, this is still a case of trying 103 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: to absorb the shock and this massive uncertainty that we 104 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: now have as nobody knows the way ahead. We have 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 1: complete confusion in the UK with no no opposition, no 106 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: no government to say, and we have a problem of 107 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: nobody knowing the timetable for the negotiation with the EU, 108 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: between the EU and the UK, and that just you know, 109 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: uncertainty is the biggest enemy of the market. Well, there 110 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: is chris a report this morning that Italy is considering 111 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: a forty four billion dollar injection of capital into its banks, 112 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: despite that UNI credit still down seven percent the morning. 113 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: Is this tarp is are they finally getting around to 114 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: the U S model. Look, I think that they are. 115 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: They are showing that they are not going to just 116 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: stand by and see problems emerge. If they're well, it's 117 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: the funding of the banks is under pleasure because people 118 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: are concerned about the impact on capital, they're going to act. Clearly, 119 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 1: that would be as you say, talk don't forget the 120 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: UK told you how to do tark just we just 121 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: didn't do it as well as the United States. We 122 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: did exactly the same. We just pumped money into into 123 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: Lloyd's Little Bank of Scotland um in the same way 124 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: that you did to the U S banks. But we 125 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: were still are in those banks. So yes, you're lying. 126 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: It's this concept of central bankers saying we will do 127 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: whatever it takes at this point in time to stabilize 128 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: the market. A grizzle pro like you. Aren't you concerned 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: at the rollover in Uni Credit, the rollover in Deutsche Bank, 130 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: the rollover and Berkeleys. They refuse to believe that long 131 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: only buy side can sider around on a Monday morning 132 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: and say, well, this is harsh, but we can withstand it. 133 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: Come on, Chris, look, I think that the bottom line 134 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: is this is this is an unpless addented shock. But 135 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: it's a weird, weird kind of shock because I unlike 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: too in the class when things were hitting as left 137 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: lne center. We we've got one very clear issue to 138 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: deal with, which has knock on impacts, allowed curlencies and 139 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: allowed allowed markets, and I think the focus on that 140 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: is actually as an fun manager at the moment, I 141 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: don't need to own banks given the uncertainty allowed banks. 142 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, look, these bank stocks are down ten today 143 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: that I'm the markets off two percent. The border market 144 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: is not showing the same concerns as the bank sectors. 145 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: This is like, I don't know the answer for the banks. 146 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm just going to leave them alone for the time being, 147 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: and I think they're just walking away and saying let's 148 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: just see how it settles down. Are any banks close 149 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: to the edge? I mean, you look at Barclay's down 150 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: another sixteen today, and you have to wonder, if you're 151 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: a non expert like myself, at what point does somebody say, oh, well, look, 152 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: I would suggest at the Bank of England is already 153 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: looking at this and saying is this something that should 154 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: concern us? If it is, what actions do we take 155 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: us to to obviously safeguard any concerns about Barclays or 156 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: in indeed any of the UK banks, and we'll try 157 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: and take those actions. And yeah, they've got to be 158 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: careful here because they don't want to start some kind 159 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: of scare going aloud about the banks when what we're 160 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: seeing here again, I can't even start to explain to 161 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: Tom was over here at the weekend, but what's occurred 162 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: since slide with the Labor Party from the main opposition 163 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: party imploding. So we don't just have a gap in government, 164 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: we have a gap in opposition and we have no 165 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: idea who's I mean, the constantly ours to Darling, to 166 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: the Chance of the Exchequer, who did bail out the 167 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: British banks in two thousand and eight, is asking the 168 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: questions where all these people who land the exit campaign 169 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: because nobody's stepping forward to time work out what to 170 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: do next. Isn't the important thing though, that the Bank 171 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: of England is running the banks and there is stability there, 172 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: Ye absolutely like And you know, I think one of 173 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: the great things is that Mark Arney is is is 174 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: probably a better communicate than this plead acessor. Howver much 175 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: this plead decessor is admired, and indeed he has been 176 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: on the wise today saying, you know, this is another 177 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: market hiccup. Markets go up, markets go down. I think 178 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: Mark s lengthy is he's got much more experienced and 179 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: other markets than Irving Head, and I think that from 180 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: that perspective, I think we're really lucky to have him 181 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: in place at the moment. Christopher Wheelers, thank you so much, 182 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: greatly appreciated. And the banking with a bit of a 183 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: bid right now, Mike, let's do an extensive data check 184 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: before we go to our conversation with the chairman. Uh, simply, 185 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: I would almost think futures could go green this morning, 186 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: the way we're gyrating around negative negative the catalyst to 187 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: get them that far, but they're back to negative nine. 188 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: They're feeling a little bit better than they were earlier 189 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: this morning. Yeah, and and yields doing it's just a 190 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: little bit improvement on the table. Sterling his benchmark. What 191 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: do we have in sterling right Well, we're looking at one. 192 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: It's above it's loads of one thirty one and fifty two, 193 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: but it's been holding below one thirty one. That's the 194 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: grind lower there, and of course the foot see no 195 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: real change in its position down a hundred thirty one 196 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: points two point one percent. That's off the percentage lost 197 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: for most of the day so far. When you first 198 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: observed Alan Greenspan, was he sleeping on the floor of 199 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: the Oval office, Well, the first time I met Al 200 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: green but I think he was watching a Baltimore Orioles game. 201 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: But well, that would because we have to find out 202 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: if he switched his allegiance to the Washington Nationals. We'll 203 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: take us to the game tonight. Did you ever think 204 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: we would talk to him about the collapse of the 205 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: European model? I never really thought, and uh, I don't 206 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: think anybody really thought that was possible. That's why we're 207 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: looking at the markets doing what they are doing. The 208 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: euro at one O nine five solidly below one ten 209 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: now and continuing to move over. The German tenure note 210 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: is negative eleven basis points. Extraordinary. That's a conundrum. As 211 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: German Greenspan would say, we are here in Washington, d C. 212 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: This was booked weeks ago. 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