Speaker 1: Yeah, what's something y'all? What's going on?
Speaker 2: But the Dream Ray.
Speaker 3: He's a legendary Queen's rapper, Hang Haanks Agreed is your
Speaker 3: boy in OI?
Speaker 2: He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is DJ
Speaker 2: E f N?
Speaker 4: Together they drink it up with some of the biggest
Speaker 4: players in music and sports?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: This is drinks Champa with every day is New Year's Eve?
Speaker 2: Hanghank Segree is your boy in O?
Speaker 1: What up?
Speaker 2: Is DJ e f N? And this is drinks Ray?
Speaker 2: Every day is New Year? What the hell you're not
Speaker 2: saying that?
Speaker 5: I mean, every day is New Year's or your birthday
Speaker 5: or your birthday or your birthday. And I got we
Speaker 5: got our first hip hop legendary guests, our.
Speaker 2: First first guest because we had a basketball player.
Speaker 5: But now we got the two legends in a row,
Speaker 5: two legends, and we weren't doing legends. No, come on here, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: you gotta pay you before you get to drink cham podcast. Okay,
Speaker 5: who do we having?
Speaker 1: The building? Fact? Joe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up, y'all?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Brothers?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 5: Brother Last night, I got a chance to be in
Speaker 5: your studio session and you and Remy Ma actually done
Speaker 5: an album.
Speaker 2: Oh dad, yeah, crazy though.
Speaker 1: No, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Nah, you're humble. I don't have to be humble for you.
Speaker 2: I'm hold up people like us. We weren't there. So
Speaker 2: when you say together, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 1: It's a complete album.
Speaker 2: Together or is it young executive produce?
Speaker 1: Her, me and her back and forth?
Speaker 6: Wow?
Speaker 2: Shit crazy.
Speaker 5: I was amazed, you know what I'm saying, because I
Speaker 5: heard Remy's mixtape.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't think that was Remy Ma. Like what I
Speaker 5: mean by that is I didn't. I didn't think she
Speaker 5: felt comfortable with the mixtape. Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But she came over from jail six years, right, and
Speaker 1: everybody in they money, everybody and their mother ran at her.
Speaker 1: And you know, she has certain loyalties to, like certain
Speaker 1: producers that she been fucking with for years, so everybody
Speaker 1: was running at her, and she was just like all right, ay,
Speaker 1: so this is I don't think she really even knew
Speaker 1: what was hot. So what was crazy was? You know,
Speaker 1: we all know it's wrapping is like riding a bike,
Speaker 1: like you know, we know she nice and ship. She
Speaker 1: just got to get in pocket and make and be produced. Right,
Speaker 1: so you know that mixtape?
Speaker 2: Let me talk right there.
Speaker 5: Do you feel like you kind of even though you
Speaker 5: probably didn't touch no buttons, but you felt you felt.
Speaker 2: Like you produced this though, because.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like it's like if lean Back had babies.
Speaker 5: That's what I felt like. It was a it was
Speaker 5: but you know how perfect that record is, like how.
Speaker 2: It hit the moment.
Speaker 5: I'm not just New York City, but that's what the
Speaker 5: whole album felt like. It felt like, Yeah, like so
Speaker 5: I kind of felt like you produced it, although.
Speaker 1: I produced it. It's a whole ship.
Speaker 2: It's hard and she sounds.
Speaker 1: So what happened was I was on the couch when
Speaker 1: she gave me the go ahead. You know, usually how
Speaker 1: did this happen?
Speaker 2: How did the talk happen?
Speaker 1: Y'all doing well? Me and her? We was just you know,
Speaker 1: before she even came out, we talked on the phone.
Speaker 1: We squashed whatever beef we had or whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be. I never really had beef for Remy. And
Speaker 1: then so when she came home, we started going to dinner, lunch,
Speaker 1: like she would just call me up, yo, where you
Speaker 1: at I'm like, I'm in the Bronx, should come over
Speaker 1: eat and we just brother and sister shit. And then
Speaker 1: she told me. She was like yo, she was like,
Speaker 1: you ready to get it in And I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I've been waiting. I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to push you. I saw what I don't know.
Speaker 1: Remy's bugged out. So I don't want this podcast how
Speaker 1: to hear this and get mad at me. But you know,
Speaker 1: like I saw how niggas was pulling her when she
Speaker 1: first came home, Like niggas. You know, two days after
Speaker 1: she come on for six years, Swiss Beats got a
Speaker 1: record with her. This when now everybody was tugging on her.
Speaker 5: She came home like the female Tupac. Let's just keep
Speaker 5: it ready, yeah, like the female Tupaca.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting back like I know what's best, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's nothing I could do.
Speaker 2: Let her do what she gotta do, do what.
Speaker 1: She gotta do. So as soon as she told me,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, like I mean, it's a no brainer.
Speaker 1: Like I knew that was supposed to happen a long time.
Speaker 5: Ago, but it was presented to you as a whole
Speaker 5: project at first, or just happened.
Speaker 1: What she said. We did the BX Fight Club, so
Speaker 1: that's the that's the only time I performed it Remy
Speaker 1: in all those years. So they had me I did.
Speaker 1: I did a favorite for holding them and I.
Speaker 2: Brought which that's crazy. But b X hole over for
Speaker 2: the strip, so I came out. We had so.
Speaker 1: I had to.
Speaker 2: So I went over there and I did it.
Speaker 1: The brons was in there deep, and I brought out
Speaker 1: Remy as a surprise, and and you know, just the
Speaker 1: smiles and people's eyes and what I always say is
Speaker 1: people like Fat Joe a lot and people like Remy
Speaker 1: Ma a lot. They love to get Fat Joe and Remy.
Speaker 1: So it was just different. Like I'm looking at the crowd,
Speaker 1: she's rocking, I'm looking at her. So afterwards, when I
Speaker 1: walk into the car, She's like, yo, man, it is different. Man,
Speaker 1: Like these these people go they love to see me
Speaker 1: with you was differ, friends, y'all telling you I've been
Speaker 1: performing everywhere. It's different when I'm staying with you. I said,
Speaker 1: so what are you saying? You know you want me
Speaker 1: to get to it. She's like all right. So then
Speaker 1: I sat on the couch, and you know it had
Speaker 1: to be perfect, like I view us and I don't
Speaker 1: want niggas to kill me, but like a jay Z
Speaker 1: Kanye West, like a Snoop Dog Doctor Dre, like a
Speaker 1: you know, you got to realize the last record we
Speaker 1: put out wear forty seven weeks number one.
Speaker 2: Which was lean Back, so the only way everybody makes
Speaker 2: a noise from goddamn forgot.
Speaker 1: So you know that ship was like that ship was
Speaker 1: like number one record for ninety years and nine months. Remember,
Speaker 1: and the nigga who beat us was floor Rider Low
Speaker 1: like he beats everybody.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he beat me.
Speaker 1: Like we almost had to song of the decade Roland
Speaker 1: so that so you know, when when I came to
Speaker 1: fuck with this, I was like, all this ship gott
Speaker 1: to be incredible. She knew that too. So I sat
Speaker 1: on the couch and usually take me a month. It
Speaker 1: took me like nine months. And I ain't gonna lie,
Speaker 1: you know, you know me and you my brother, and
Speaker 1: he called me the Puerto Rican puff Daddy. This nigga's
Speaker 1: crazy for years. So I actually was confused. So this
Speaker 1: was the first time in my life that I made
Speaker 1: a project that I was actually challenged, like I was
Speaker 1: like questioning myself because I wanted it to be so
Speaker 1: perfect that I was like, oh, ship, So the problem
Speaker 1: is we come from a different era, right, and we
Speaker 1: got fed Joe remy fans. But yeah, instead, we want
Speaker 1: to make music that's relevant with these young niggas too,
Speaker 1: but not sound crazy, like like not do to the
Speaker 1: picking my bookers, picking my bookers. We don't want to
Speaker 1: do that, ship, right, but we want to do music
Speaker 1: that the DJ.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: It feels like Joe Crack ribby Ma, but we could
Speaker 1: turn that bitch up and fucking Rolex ko D right now.
Speaker 1: That's hard, like really hard. Like I'm telling you I
Speaker 1: know everything about music, Like I mean like I don't
Speaker 1: even know. I don't know how to explain it to
Speaker 1: you in any other way.
Speaker 2: It's like.
Speaker 1: Call you give me some wine. So listen, the niggas
Speaker 1: turn around, nigau. So the niggas turned around. It was
Speaker 1: hard to do, so it's almost I had to become
Speaker 1: a chemist. So not only was I on the couch,
Speaker 1: I was in all the clubs like day and night,
Speaker 1: day and night while I was doing it. So I
Speaker 1: went to Toronto for a weekend and went to twenty
Speaker 1: clubs and sat there and most of the ship they
Speaker 1: was playing. I didn't even know it. I went to
Speaker 1: Washington Heights, set in every club every night to see
Speaker 1: what they doing, sushi mambo. I went to the Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: to Queens, to the strip clubs, to the everywhere to
Speaker 1: hear what the fuck was going on?
Speaker 5: Now in New York City is only in Queens. Throw
Speaker 5: it out there, continue the story, sir.
Speaker 1: Well, I was in Georgia's diner last week and I
Speaker 1: was looking for you on So I'm chilling right. So
Speaker 1: the long story short, I wanted it to be perfect.
Speaker 1: I still wanted to be perfect, and it was a
Speaker 1: hard thing to do. So you know the fact with Remy,
Speaker 1: you know, even Pat Poos he turned around and he
Speaker 1: was like, yo, Joe, he was like, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: So I'm telling Remy, yo, come to Miami, come to
Speaker 1: the studio, come on, let's rock out. So she got
Speaker 1: a husband. Now she ain't my little sister, you know
Speaker 1: back of the tall bus. She could just leave. She
Speaker 1: got a fucking family, a husband. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on. So I got to go to New
Speaker 1: York and turn up with her and be like, all right,
Speaker 1: I rented the studio. Let's go, let's lock in, come
Speaker 1: down right. So by the second day, the nigga Pat
Speaker 1: Woo said, Yo, Joe, you know what I said? What
Speaker 1: he said, man, my bag? I said what you mean
Speaker 1: he said, cause you know it's my wife and she's
Speaker 1: telling me she got to go to Miami and stay
Speaker 1: for two weeks or three weeks with Joe. I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: that sound like right? So no, no so, but he
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I've been in here with you two days.
Speaker 1: He's like the shit you bring out of her the ship.
Speaker 1: Y'all niggas get from each other. I get it. Y'all
Speaker 1: gotta be with each other. The chemistry is crazy. Y'all
Speaker 1: gotta be with each other. Y'all gotta turn up with
Speaker 1: each other. So you know, it was crazy, and you
Speaker 1: know we did. We did her half in New York
Speaker 1: and you know, we had Fred the Garson in the
Speaker 1: studio every day. You know, Pat Poost was chilling. She
Speaker 1: was there, so we I just felt like we was
Speaker 1: just real well grounded with the musically.
Speaker 2: The whole project of Dominantly in New York City.
Speaker 1: Nah. I produced it in Miami and then I went
Speaker 1: up to New York to do Remy's half in New York.
Speaker 6: Wait, wait, but from that research that you did when
Speaker 6: you was going to the different clubs and what what
Speaker 6: did you get out of that?
Speaker 1: Did you get? I got what I got, Yes, I did.
Speaker 1: I got a lot of literate shit of the universe
Speaker 1: of what's going on? What did that bring to the
Speaker 1: project that brought the single Okay singles call all the
Speaker 1: way up? So what happened was I.
Speaker 5: Was, can I say who is featuring or yeah, keep
Speaker 5: featuring in French Montana. My single off of Drunk Uncle
Speaker 5: is also featuring in French Montana. So New York is
Speaker 5: just keep it in New York right now, New York
Speaker 5: being ourselves that shout the audience Come On.
Speaker 1: Is produced by exclusive young up and coming producer out
Speaker 1: here in Miami. The Niggas Incredible, He's the future and
Speaker 1: also Infrared wrote the hook. So Infrared, you know that's
Speaker 1: my brother, the.
Speaker 5: Drunkest man and the drunk the drunkest guy in America.
Speaker 1: He's any drunk nigga in the world.
Speaker 2: This is chance, you know.
Speaker 1: I love him. So I was in Washington Heights and
Speaker 1: I was just studying the crowd. See when I go
Speaker 1: to clubs. It's like being in college. I watched to
Speaker 1: see what the bitches like. I see what the niggas like.
Speaker 1: I see what how niggas feel, the drug dealing nigga,
Speaker 1: that broke nigga. I'm just watching everything. So I'm sitting there.
Speaker 1: You might be thinking, Yo, this nigga, Joe Krack is
Speaker 1: either full of himself or you know he's arrogant or
Speaker 1: what the fuck is wrong with him?
Speaker 2: But I'm sitting then.
Speaker 1: I'm studying everything, every movement popping, so that when I
Speaker 1: go in the studio, That's how I created Making Ring,
Speaker 1: That's how I created Lean Back and all my hates
Speaker 1: is like, I study it and then when I get
Speaker 1: in the lab, I could just see the whole is
Speaker 1: like I'm in the club, so I know what it is.
Speaker 1: And I realized that these niggas want to say I'm
Speaker 1: all the way up. Nothing cal stopped me. I'm all
Speaker 1: the way up. That's what they want to say standing
Speaker 1: on a couch at a club. So shit, incredible, man.
Speaker 2: Now what you call project is Joe remy mom.
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna debut the title right now, and I
Speaker 1: hope niggas don't jack us should I debut it now?
Speaker 2: I think I heard that. I mean your friend for
Speaker 2: twenty years.
Speaker 1: The name of the album is called plot I So Plombo.
Speaker 2: That's the ship, right, Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: So the name of the album is called plot So Plumber.
Speaker 2: It's hard. Should be the.
Speaker 1: Money your bullets. You know what I'm saying. However you
Speaker 1: want it, you know what I'm saying. We ain't got
Speaker 1: a problem paying. But if you front, you know what's coming.
Speaker 2: But it's not a group name though. No, don't don't do.
Speaker 1: Don't do the Fat Joe featuring Remy or Remy feature
Speaker 1: and it's a brotherly love niggas both of us.
Speaker 5: Now you're thinking about album independent, We are independent.
Speaker 1: Everything I put out the last nine years been independent.
Speaker 1: Mega Rain went number three in the country.
Speaker 2: And Talk About Michael.
Speaker 1: Went number three, depended another round number three. Independent. Everything
Speaker 1: I do. I've been in the independent.
Speaker 5: All right, you off snapchat duties now because I need
Speaker 5: you with the with the with the whistle. Good guyside
Speaker 5: got that's my guy.
Speaker 2: It's coming right now, that's.
Speaker 3: Right now, watching nor he's a bully. He's on the
Speaker 3: littlest guy here. Hey, this is my guy, right here.
Speaker 5: Listen, you have duty when you're down with our cow,
Speaker 5: whether you're small, big, everybody has.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The vibe of your crew. I love how everybody's team spirited.
Speaker 1: But you've always maintained that whether you was fucking with
Speaker 1: niggas from the Bronze Queens wherever. You know, you such
Speaker 1: a real guy, such down to earth that you know
Speaker 1: niggas clean to you and they love you. So everybody
Speaker 1: play their position, you know what I'm saying, And that's
Speaker 1: what it is. You know, with me, people don't realize.
Speaker 1: You know, I was always number two and then was
Speaker 1: forced to go number one. So now how I could
Speaker 1: explain that to you? When when I came up in
Speaker 1: the streets, my god, Tony Montana, he was number one
Speaker 1: Terry Squad.
Speaker 2: I always sees just the piece.
Speaker 1: So Joe Krack was vice president type ship. You know,
Speaker 1: he was the live wire. And I come up in
Speaker 1: there after he do some crazy ship clean it up right,
Speaker 1: So then you know, and then when he passed, my
Speaker 1: brother was number one, and I always maintained number two.
Speaker 1: So I always was cool being number two. So then
Speaker 1: when I started rapping and this fat Joe and then
Speaker 1: I bring Pun in the game, and I realized that
Speaker 1: Pun is a hundred times better than me.
Speaker 2: I fell right into number two. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 2: let's hope, I'll hold the door for this thick. I
Speaker 2: ain't ask you something that I always wondered.
Speaker 1: So you met me through Pun, yes, sir, so so
Speaker 1: Pun had remy she is big puns artist.
Speaker 2: Because I don't remember Pun, I don't number Pun.
Speaker 1: I was so jealous. God, I was so jealous because
Speaker 1: it wasn't too many crews where you had a nigga
Speaker 1: as nice at Pun and then you had a bitch
Speaker 1: that was like the nicest bitch in the game. So
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, twin, I want you to hear
Speaker 1: this girl I signed, and I'm like, all right, so
Speaker 1: I see if she had the level vest I can
Speaker 1: never forget that ship. And then she just went off
Speaker 1: for like ten minutes streets and that's what she was saying,
Speaker 1: I shoot the air bubba, welch, you're sneakers. I'm funks.
Speaker 1: She was just going. I was like, so jealous, man.
Speaker 1: I was sitting there like, oh my god, why my
Speaker 1: head was saying why I didn't find her? Why I
Speaker 1: didn't find it? So then after she rocks Punt history
Speaker 1: zual Twin. You know she you artist Twin, Like you
Speaker 1: know she signed to me, but we signed to you label.
Speaker 1: It was Terror Squad the whole time he discovered her
Speaker 1: from he say, Yo.
Speaker 2: He's signed it.
Speaker 1: He just covering up. But he's like you like Yo,
Speaker 1: Joe was coming to you anyway, nigga. But I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I want to say to my artist. I'm like,
Speaker 1: my nigga, thank God, and uh, you know what.
Speaker 2: You did to deal with her after Pun passed or nah.
Speaker 1: Na Poem was alive. Wow, we did the deal with her.
Speaker 1: But while Poem was alive, you know Pun, you know Pun.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, most loyal, realist nigga in
Speaker 1: the world. We don't just say that because he's dead
Speaker 1: because some niggas dad piece of ship. You know. Puem
Speaker 1: was one of the most loyalist niggas in the world.
Speaker 1: But most fun I mean the way I say it
Speaker 1: is like, you know, I was the youngest kid in
Speaker 1: my house. You know what I'm saying. I never had
Speaker 1: a younger brother, So Poem was like the young brother
Speaker 1: I never had, and I was like the big brother
Speaker 1: he never had. And immediately. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's almost like a relationship, you know, in order to
Speaker 1: make a marriage last, It's like you really got to
Speaker 1: sign it mentally and heartwise. You gotta really say, no
Speaker 1: matter what happens, I want to stay with this woman
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life.
Speaker 2: Goddamn, cut your hands to that, exam. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: let's not give.
Speaker 1: It's just like y'all, nobody's stopping this ship, right, And
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with like you know, with me
Speaker 1: and pun. You know, after I heard him round for
Speaker 1: the first time, he sat in my car and he
Speaker 1: immediately I don't know how and why, but he was
Speaker 1: telling me ship. I wouldn't tell Nori now about myself,
Speaker 1: and that's my brother, Like I could go to war
Speaker 1: with norriy Like, I don't really kill for Norri, He'll
Speaker 1: kill for me. I would not tell him some personal
Speaker 1: shit in my family growing up and all that. So
Speaker 1: five minutes later, I'm riding with the nigga. This niggas
Speaker 1: telling me the deepest ship I ever heard of the
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there with him. I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a street nigga, I'm like, why is
Speaker 1: this nigga telling me all this ship? Right?
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there like this.
Speaker 1: So I knew his life story the first twenty minutes
Speaker 1: after I left him. I met him already. They knew it.
Speaker 1: But let everybody.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something. Because we were in and
Speaker 2: there like like like Tata right.
Speaker 5: Jay Z's boy had brung me beyond that right, and
Speaker 5: I had to join. And he said, Yo, she wants to.
Speaker 1: Do this record.
Speaker 5: She wants to do it like barbatosh and listen.
Speaker 2: Check check what I said. Listen.
Speaker 5: But she wonted fifteen bands. I had a million dollar
Speaker 5: budget at the time. I said no, right, I said no,
Speaker 5: I passed on that.
Speaker 2: Did you know the minute you met pun that this
Speaker 2: was the next dude?
Speaker 1: Or was it instant or like I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I know music probably
Speaker 1: more than anybody. It's just the truth. If this industry
Speaker 1: wasn't scared of me for being such a gangster nigga.
Speaker 2: I would be the president of everything.
Speaker 1: Nobody really know more than me. Every time they turn
Speaker 1: around and give a nigga a new job, they I
Speaker 1: put it on blast the minute they gave Joey Ai
Speaker 1: president of in this go. He picked the phone up,
Speaker 1: call me and say, I learned everything from you, my brother. Please,
Speaker 1: you don't even understand everything. I know. It's because of
Speaker 1: you everything I like. Niggas get presidents and they studied
Speaker 1: you my whole life. You are the smartest nigger in
Speaker 1: but they scared of me, so they won't give me
Speaker 1: that position. Don't know why, because I'm the nicest nigger
Speaker 1: in the world. That's a fact, that's right. So when
Speaker 1: I met pun and the niggas started rapping, so all right,
Speaker 1: the scene is I told her a million times. I
Speaker 1: don't want to tell shit on your shit that I
Speaker 1: told everybody by but I'm gonna just say it because
Speaker 1: we family, So I go. You know, I was one
Speaker 1: of the only rap him being another one too, so
Speaker 1: I can't stunt on him. But I'm one of the
Speaker 1: only rappers that actually was rich, actually was gold already
Speaker 1: and was still in my hood.
Speaker 2: Like I live in Apartment five E.
Speaker 5: Like literally, hold on, everybody better make noise for this.
Speaker 5: I am also from Apartment five E, so you know
Speaker 5: what's crazy.
Speaker 1: I studied hip hop. Jay Z was also from Apartment
Speaker 1: five what what does that mean?
Speaker 5: In a project we gotta bring He's from Miami, now
Speaker 5: I know what literally what that means.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, is there a hidden meaning behind him? No,
Speaker 2: we're gonna We're gonna ask him. You know you're gonna ask.
Speaker 5: Let me also make some noise from my brother Kate.
Speaker 5: You know ray Kun's whether he'd be once who will.
Speaker 1: Take heavy birthday?
Speaker 2: Happy birthday?
Speaker 1: He said, I don't see the God. Okay, okay, God.
Speaker 2: Excuse me.
Speaker 5: Somebody gave that man a drink. Somebody get that man
Speaker 5: to drink. We ain't got no brown, We ain't got
Speaker 5: no brown.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I know you called me and I tell
Speaker 1: you I had it, but nobody never gave me my sneakers,
Speaker 1: my purple me. Third, wait, hold on, we got to
Speaker 1: hear call me. I'm gonna pick it up. I could
Speaker 1: I still get him on a gone.
Speaker 2: They should listen. He's Joe. Let's go straight. I'm glad
Speaker 2: you brung it to him. Are you the sneaker king?
Speaker 2: And if you are, you bve college because I felt.
Speaker 1: Like you and Golly can fuck with me.
Speaker 2: Okay, I needn't understand that.
Speaker 1: Let's be clear, but you put him on because I
Speaker 1: put him onto the sneaky game. You know, he's my brother.
Speaker 1: He's coming up under the the culture. He's just Callen
Speaker 1: is like a Fat Joe on steroids, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So he's been with teroids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on extra drawn that when I when I went,
Speaker 1: when I went and got him his record deal at Cotch.
Speaker 1: I started at Relativity with Alan Grumblack, so we didn't
Speaker 1: really even have no music or nothing like that. So
Speaker 1: when Callen kept bothering me like, yo, I want to
Speaker 1: do this album. I want to do this album, I said,
Speaker 1: fucking nigga, Let's go to New York, right. So we
Speaker 1: went up in there and the first thing I told
Speaker 1: Alan Grumbler, I said, you don't understand this nigga is incredible.
Speaker 1: He's a hip maker and he's Fat Joe on ship.
Speaker 1: So Alan, of course, but Alan grum Black don't know that.
Speaker 1: That Alan grum Black. He just went on for what
Speaker 1: I told, Okay like it was. He just went on
Speaker 1: for me, hyping him up, telling him like he wanted
Speaker 1: to be in business with Fat Joe so much that
Speaker 1: he turned around and was like, Yo, this nigga Joe
Speaker 1: never lied to me and it was the best thing
Speaker 1: he ever did in his life. Because Alan gru black pink,
Speaker 1: I never got royal.
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer.
Speaker 5: Nobody gets on He is a good guy, a little
Speaker 5: bit one of the best I never met.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, nobody gets worried he's we didn't deserve it.
Speaker 1: We got to start a royalty committee.
Speaker 5: We got to start something. So now let's get back
Speaker 5: to the sneak of that. Because I feel like, I
Speaker 5: feel like you're my brother, right you've always been. If
Speaker 5: I have to say, one of the best people I
Speaker 5: ever met in my.
Speaker 1: Life that Joe is there, smart guy? Now what's that?
Speaker 2: I feel like, whatever connect you ever had, I'm always
Speaker 2: liberty at liberty to that except your sneaker connects never
Speaker 2: expand for a missile. He'll give you his oozy man yo.
Speaker 2: But Yo, every time you get a pair of I
Speaker 2: just always watch his feet. I'm like, he's advanced. You
Speaker 2: have Michael Jordan's number one speed out? Is this what happens?
Speaker 1: I don't have Michael Jordan's number on speed down?
Speaker 2: But because I feel like you be cheating, you got
Speaker 2: your connect is cheating connect. It's a Cheico. It is
Speaker 2: a cheat, Chico is.
Speaker 1: But I deserve it because I've been committed to this
Speaker 1: ship forever. Before it was cool to be a sneak ahead,
Speaker 1: I was a sneakerhead, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: they know my dedications.
Speaker 2: I'm not a sneaker had like you. I gotta give
Speaker 2: it to college.
Speaker 1: You call it Clark can't. Clark is a guy named
Speaker 1: mayor mayors.
Speaker 2: Don't know, hasn't made my mathematics yet. He's my guy.
Speaker 1: A god, you know, he's a god.
Speaker 2: He has his own sneaker at Nike. Correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, he has a couple. He's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he put it down legends.
Speaker 2: Now somebody offered you their own sneaker. I know, did
Speaker 2: did you have like a Stephan Marberry sneaky that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did one for the community, very cheap. You know,
Speaker 1: give it to the kid.
Speaker 2: But now Kanye is killing him. If you would have
Speaker 2: your own sneaker, line like, what would you do over?
Speaker 1: It would be the hottest ship and what but what
Speaker 1: would you aspire to be?
Speaker 2: Who would you pick?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean I wouldn't say it because.
Speaker 2: Competitive very smart man. You're always doing his thinker can,
Speaker 2: He'll tell me everything.
Speaker 5: So now let's just let's just rewind on everything. Probably
Speaker 5: the most fun I ever had traveling was when Triz
Speaker 5: was hot.
Speaker 2: Everybody's getting scared. It's pretty great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody's everybody's scared of days.
Speaker 2: What's awesome.
Speaker 1: I can't talk about it.
Speaker 2: I didn't say you talk about it. I didn't even
Speaker 2: ask a question. It was just but Tris is played out?
Speaker 1: Is that bad?
Speaker 2: Or is that good for the community? What do you
Speaker 2: means is played out?
Speaker 1: People don't want to trust good for the community, I believe.
Speaker 5: So everybody makes a noise when Tris being dead. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna tell you when I canna see you, I'll tell
Speaker 5: you what I stopped my personal story.
Speaker 2: Right, I had two. I always had two. Right, that
Speaker 2: was cool. But then one day I had three. Right,
Speaker 2: So I was like yo, I bus like five nuts
Speaker 2: and they still wanted more. I felt defeated.
Speaker 1: Oh you felt defeated.
Speaker 2: I felt defeated.
Speaker 1: All right, Well what's different? Well?
Speaker 2: You confusing both?
Speaker 1: Okay, the tris means like niggas running the train on
Speaker 1: a bit like one. Nags is always your style, okay,
Speaker 1: naj is always your style and you're tested as a
Speaker 1: man because one thing I noticed about women is that
Speaker 1: they can never have enough. You can never have enough,
Speaker 1: you can never like. They can never really tell you
Speaker 1: realistically and from the bottom of their heart. Yo, I'm tired.
Speaker 1: I quit. They canna keep going forever a couple.
Speaker 2: Atfully, but that day I like the man.
Speaker 1: They go from it. They go from like Yo, they
Speaker 1: want to get please. Actually, na, Now this ship has worked.
Speaker 1: This niggas fucking me seven hours. I'm working like I
Speaker 1: need a salary for this ship right here. Trez is
Speaker 1: the trains Minas is different thing.
Speaker 5: It's always a beautiful I'm gonna give you a story
Speaker 5: one time. I never put this out this footage. I
Speaker 5: actually have it on footage.
Speaker 1: One percent.
Speaker 5: Jesus Tony Sunshine, Oh my big Pun, this is how,
Speaker 5: this is how, this is how you know Big Pun
Speaker 5: was one of the greatest individuals in life. Puff Daddy
Speaker 5: pays me for a little Jerome. You remember a little
Speaker 5: Jerome back in the days. Well, little Jerome had did
Speaker 5: a blood money beat. So puff Dad he never pays good,
Speaker 5: but he pays it, never pays good, but he pays.
Speaker 2: It's great. Pup pitsed me says Yo, No, I need
Speaker 2: you to do this. Put the room.
Speaker 5: So I'm like all right, cool, but like it's all
Speaker 5: one fee because you know, I was like, all right,
Speaker 5: I'll do that for the song and then for the video.
Speaker 2: No, it's not how, it's how puff.
Speaker 1: Daddy, bro.
Speaker 2: It's on one feet like a black jew. You gotta
Speaker 2: do it. You gotta do it because it's fuff daddy.
Speaker 1: And front you want to go to his house for
Speaker 1: New York.
Speaker 2: That makes up for every dance, for everything. So Papa
Speaker 2: it's me and goes all right. So now I'm shooting
Speaker 2: a little bit your own video. This is the carbet.
Speaker 2: You remember the car I remember the car So Pun
Speaker 2: got puffed at the carbet. So Pun says Yo, cool Nory,
Speaker 2: Let's tell Nori to come over here. So now Pun
Speaker 2: got fucked up earlier. Today, Papa is like, make sure
Speaker 2: you're on time, please, Norri.
Speaker 5: We don't have this kid, don't got a budget. Pun
Speaker 5: makes Puff call me and goes, Yo, come over to
Speaker 5: the carpet.
Speaker 1: Nigga, what you at you?
Speaker 7: Nor?
Speaker 2: I said, you sure? You want me to leave your video?
Speaker 2: Then Papa's like, Pun with the nigga shooting my video?
Speaker 2: We just we just told him to leave. So I said,
Speaker 2: your pun come over here. Pun comes over here. He
Speaker 2: brings Tony Sunshine and I forget what other two dudes,
Speaker 2: but I have it on camera one hundred percent. You
Speaker 2: remember I used to run around with the camera.
Speaker 1: You was ahead of time. I was ahead of time.
Speaker 2: I was blogging before it was blog blogging.
Speaker 1: You was blogging.
Speaker 2: So fun comes and these two chicks they see him.
Speaker 2: He's like elch Asian girl and a black girl.
Speaker 5: Right, So I got my Bronx people with me. When
Speaker 5: I got my queens people, they all know each other
Speaker 5: all the like the hood niggas, like they all know
Speaker 5: each other.
Speaker 2: So they're like, yo, we go on the vans like
Speaker 2: kiss up? So just never kissed?
Speaker 1: Was gay?
Speaker 2: Nothing? It's on camera. I can one hundred percent prove this.
Speaker 1: They kiss somebody's wife now, moms or somebody. That's why.
Speaker 2: Why you want to foot the job?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: So whatever?
Speaker 5: Then they had we had a Queen's versus Bronx fuck off,
Speaker 5: like whoever busts.
Speaker 1: For the loser? But why is you? We're all in
Speaker 1: the van, you remember in the van niggas the fantastic
Speaker 1: yo dude, and like it's like your putting in that word.
Speaker 5: But you're right next to you, so you shouldn't bust
Speaker 5: like it's like you hold it downas like yo, yo,
Speaker 5: I got the whole ship on film, So now it was.
Speaker 2: A wonderful day.
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful time. I don't know what.
Speaker 5: Pun yelled to Tony's right, but they went and they
Speaker 5: got the Super Squirters.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 8: This is zero below decrease in New York City when
Speaker 8: they got the water gun up the Super Squirters with
Speaker 8: this New York City snow, I'm not talking about the
Speaker 8: fresh snow.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the snow where you see Yellow ship
Speaker 5: in there and you see the blacks, the blacks and
Speaker 5: they put the snow from the Super Squirter, waited till
Speaker 5: it melted. The bitches fucked the whole crew. Why do
Speaker 5: we have to do anything. As soon as they came up,
Speaker 5: they squirted.
Speaker 2: A film and the bitches, this is back in the days,
Speaker 2: they didn't even.
Speaker 1: Care they was lasting.
Speaker 2: They felt like yo, fuck yuh. This is one of
Speaker 2: the wildest nights in my life.
Speaker 1: This is a long time ago. No pun you know,
Speaker 1: pun Uh, you know I was the only nigga could
Speaker 1: control him. So he would be ducking me and ship
Speaker 1: because this nigga, the niggas calling me the cops. Cops
Speaker 1: was like, you know some niggas. I was cool. They
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, they gonna lock that nigga pun Up.
Speaker 1: I'm like what they say. He's shooting the old ladies
Speaker 1: coming out the supermarket with the super soap. So they like, y'all, nigga,
Speaker 1: we in the hole. He's the only nigga with a
Speaker 1: six hundred great vans and we're not coming. He's shooting
Speaker 1: the old ladies with the ship down the Soka and
Speaker 1: niggas is like, yo, my nigga, he gonna go to
Speaker 1: jail for this. He's gonna be on the news. So
Speaker 1: I go over there and got to make a movie.
Speaker 1: Scream at Pun as loud as you can scream. Mother fuck.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Figga like the nigga's crazy. Man. He
Speaker 1: was crazy.
Speaker 5: He was crazy recipes he was. He was, uh, well
Speaker 5: you and pun was my first friends and hip hop damn.
Speaker 1: He was the first that was Hotel Louise Scotcha. I
Speaker 1: was so gassed because the first ship he said was
Speaker 1: Hostelois Scotcha holding guns and.
Speaker 2: Felt that way at me, though. He was like, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if he's Puerto Rican. What you said, you
Speaker 2: gotta tell him the story.
Speaker 1: I caught him. He was at the Puerto Rican parade
Speaker 1: and I've seen him, this is the first time, and
Speaker 1: I helped him up. It was like thousands of niggas
Speaker 1: around me, and I got the i't I remember a tsunami.
Speaker 1: So I helped the nigga up and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: what's up, nigga, Yo, we fuck with you, nigga. He
Speaker 1: was hight right and then, But what he wanted me
Speaker 1: to get at is he always said he's Spanish, but
Speaker 1: he with black niggas and he looked black, so we
Speaker 1: never totally believed it, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: one day I'm in Chicago and the nigga called me up.
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, you gotta show a House of Blues.
Speaker 1: I said yeah, he said, Yo, my my family want
Speaker 1: to come to this show. So I'm like, I ain't
Speaker 1: no question nor really look at the hotel. I'm in
Speaker 1: the hotel telling the niggas meet me in the lobby.
Speaker 1: I meet him, nigga, come over with the guy better
Speaker 1: than some gray Roman. The niggas like hey, Joe, Like,
Speaker 1: I am no brother, I'm like, what this be? Like Bobby,
Speaker 1: you're through sign, you're saying well through some I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Nigga? Really, I might have called him
Speaker 1: honey niggas, Yodi nigga.
Speaker 2: He wasn't fring. I'm looking at the Puerto Rican niggas.
Speaker 1: He's really. Oh my, the real Puerto Ricans came in Chicago, right, Nah?
Speaker 2: That was crazy. That was very funny, man, that was
Speaker 2: very funny.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So so so let me ask you something right
Speaker 2: at all?
Speaker 5: All the thing about you is what people don't understand
Speaker 5: about you is you're actually a lyricist.
Speaker 2: Like you make party records. But even in your party record,
Speaker 2: like I.
Speaker 5: Told this, I said, Joe is one of my top
Speaker 5: friends of all time, but when it comes time to
Speaker 5: do a feature for me, he's like the worst list.
Speaker 2: But not because he's not.
Speaker 1: Gonna do it.
Speaker 2: It's he takes his time with something like you actually
Speaker 2: do like I know, you never dissed me.
Speaker 5: Like you my brother, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: I ate in your crib, my crib all the time
Speaker 5: with our families.
Speaker 2: You're my brother, so it's not but You're like, do
Speaker 2: you think you're a perfectionist?
Speaker 1: Definitely a perfectionist with everything. Yeah, sometimes you know the
Speaker 1: way ship move nowadays, Niggas get mad at how I
Speaker 1: am because I like to roll it out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's key to a lot of shit.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. Maybe I ain't the
Speaker 1: smartest nigger, but I want to make sure shit gets
Speaker 1: this buck for his money with everything we do. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. With these young kids I'm fucking
Speaker 1: with right now, to the first niggas I fuck with
Speaker 1: in years, they got fire, and I'm still like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we need more. We need more because you can't make
Speaker 1: a first impression twice and then rap wise, I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. No matter who I rap with,
Speaker 1: I try to take their head off. It's just a fact.
Speaker 1: I gotta go in, and you know, you invite me.
Speaker 1: And he's very scared because fat jokers. People probably probably
Speaker 1: don't think he's the best rapper in the world. But
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm just saying, people probably don't think I'm
Speaker 1: the best rapper in the world, but I'm like the
Speaker 1: Mexican nigga. You don't want to fight in the boxing
Speaker 1: because he not going down.
Speaker 2: He's a hell of a fighter.
Speaker 1: He's one of them niggas that you know you scared
Speaker 1: to fight. You scared to fight him because you know
Speaker 1: he gonna go. You're gonna have to kill his nigga
Speaker 1: in the ring, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: how it is with raps because when you invite me
Speaker 1: to it, you know, and the worst nigga was Pun,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. What Pun was going for?
Speaker 2: Niggas had man since Pun died, who was like a
Speaker 2: person that you did a record with and you.
Speaker 1: Was like, man, let me be on my best, best
Speaker 1: best everybody everybody. I tell my son that.
Speaker 5: But it's not like just one person, little everybody, everybody.
Speaker 1: Every time I go into booth, All right, let me
Speaker 1: tell you a secret. I'll tell you in front of
Speaker 1: the whole world that I never told.
Speaker 2: Nobody's because the whole world listen. It makes for the
Speaker 2: whole fucking world listening. God damn it. I like when
Speaker 2: you threw that out there. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Who listen every night my whole career, every night I
Speaker 1: got in the studio till this night. You know, I
Speaker 1: never know if I'm gonna die when I leave the studio,
Speaker 1: So when I do my work in the studio, I
Speaker 1: go the hardest I could go in history when I
Speaker 1: work on my music, because if I die, I know
Speaker 1: that's the only thing that's gonna remind people for years
Speaker 1: and years, twenty thirty years later that I put it down. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to say, fat job, if you want
Speaker 1: me to tell you how I really feel, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm one of the most underrated rappers of all time.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm been in the game this long
Speaker 1: and I still make music. And every time, like every time,
Speaker 1: I'm like a little kid waiting for his father on Christmas.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for niggas to finally give it up. And
Speaker 1: they act like it's luck that you've been in the
Speaker 1: game for twenty years. They act like it's luck. Did
Speaker 1: you put out ten fifteen top number five records in
Speaker 1: the world. So Villians, they act like this shit, like, yo,
Speaker 1: he's just a lucky nigga. You understand what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: But it takes it takes, you know, dedication to that.
Speaker 1: So like with this this album with Remy, I'm spitting
Speaker 1: my ass off, and I'm like, all right, maybe this
Speaker 1: time get you there finally listen to be you know,
Speaker 1: because right now it's a little different from me. I'm
Speaker 1: a little older, you know what I'm saying, I'm a veteran.
Speaker 1: The young niggas don't look at me as a threat
Speaker 1: no more. I'm not saying physically. They just don't look
Speaker 1: at me as like I'm their competition.
Speaker 2: So now they're able to.
Speaker 1: Say, Yo, my nigga, we love your ship. You know
Speaker 1: you're a ved Yo. Fuck with you, nigga, you were
Speaker 1: a legend. Before it was more like they were scared
Speaker 1: to tell me that because they felt like we were
Speaker 1: still competing.
Speaker 2: The thing they don't know is that we really still competing.
Speaker 1: I love that, love that album. We compete. So on
Speaker 1: this album right here, I'm spitting my ass off so
Speaker 1: that maybe just maybe niggas can look and listen to
Speaker 1: this album and be like, ooh this nigga crazy.
Speaker 5: One more, what's the one record that a producer played
Speaker 5: for you or brung you and you didn't funk with.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're crazy? And the record that you just said, Rihanna,
Speaker 1: you fucked up my thing when you know I put
Speaker 1: it out there that I could have signed them and
Speaker 1: them six times heard this story.
Speaker 2: That's sad. No, I've never heard this story out there.
Speaker 2: Give it to us.
Speaker 1: It's out there for real.
Speaker 2: Point at what point when I was young and them.
Speaker 1: We went We was having dinner one day, he was like,
Speaker 1: yo Joe, crack. You know, I gave you my demo
Speaker 1: six times. I said, what this is? After he's the
Speaker 1: high but you don't remember. He didn't remember you way
Speaker 1: before before. So the nigga turned around. He was like,
Speaker 1: I gave it to you. How can I be down?
Speaker 1: I gave it to you, Jack the Rapper, I gave
Speaker 1: it to you in Atlanta. I gave it to you
Speaker 1: in Jersey when I was with the Outsiders, I gave it.
Speaker 1: He knew every time he gave me his demo, and
Speaker 1: I was like, Jesus Christ, I could have had him
Speaker 1: and now, but the ReCl I sat in the house
Speaker 1: with Salom Remen and uh and he made Fuuji live
Speaker 1: for me. Oh and then and I sat trying to
Speaker 1: feature you sat for me in this living room and
Speaker 1: I was there with him for hours and then he
Speaker 1: was like, yo Joe. Like a week later, he was like,
Speaker 1: yo Joe, you you want this record? And I was like, nah,
Speaker 1: I'm good. He was like, you want this record? I
Speaker 1: was like, na, I'm good, and then it was fuuji
Speaker 1: live know my record was and I got another one
Speaker 1: bigger than that.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let me just tell you because I have
Speaker 5: the same exact story. Track Masters was in.
Speaker 2: The studio with me and they made y'all up with
Speaker 2: y'all and I was like, you know, niggas and a laugh.
Speaker 2: I told him I didn't even want it, but I
Speaker 2: was still mad.
Speaker 1: You probably wanted to vomit. I'm gonna tell you my
Speaker 1: story again. See Scott's tortured me. Our chemistry was like
Speaker 1: if I knew what I knew now, then I probably
Speaker 1: would have been the richest nigga in the world. Because
Speaker 1: I worked with Scott Storch five times. All five songs
Speaker 1: went number one in America. It's just the bottom line.
Speaker 1: Every time I sat down with the nigga, we made
Speaker 1: a number one. If I knew that now, I would
Speaker 1: have had fifty songs with Scott's story at that time,
Speaker 1: I would have Indeed, I would have.
Speaker 2: Never left them.
Speaker 1: I would have been on a nigga breathing on a
Speaker 1: nigga like, Yo, Scott, let's do another one your Scott.
Speaker 1: Let's do nothing right. So I come and I make uh,
Speaker 1: what is it a candy shop? I made that be dude,
Speaker 1: do dude, do do do? And then and he was
Speaker 1: going out with He was going out with with with
Speaker 1: with uh with with little Kim. So the way I
Speaker 1: make beats with with with with with Wisconsin's he could
Speaker 1: play whatever. So I would tell him boom boom being
Speaker 1: and ben boom boom being and ban boom. That's how
Speaker 1: I made lean back boom boom boom. He just did
Speaker 1: whatever I said, like I could damn near beat box it,
Speaker 1: and he played. So we made candy shop. The crazy
Speaker 1: ship is. I don't want my wife to to kill me.
Speaker 1: But we had little Kim up in there moving him
Speaker 1: Ben there. We was doing the beat to this pitch.
Speaker 1: She was doing a little boom. I'm like, yo, he
Speaker 1: gotta be more Arabic d yo. We got little Kim
Speaker 1: up in there doing the Arabic dance and ship. So
Speaker 1: then the nigga, now, I'm gonna keep it a buck
Speaker 1: with y'all nobody. I don't even know if I can
Speaker 1: keep it too much a buck but what I can
Speaker 1: say is we did it, but that was right after
Speaker 1: lean back. It would have been yourmongus hit. And some
Speaker 1: of my niggas and my crew convinced me not to
Speaker 1: do it. They was like, oh, you know Shirt, like
Speaker 1: mean bad, my nigga, you keep going with Scott's starch.
Speaker 1: I should have been like, yeah, nigga, every time I
Speaker 1: fuck with him as number one, Nah my son, do
Speaker 1: this one, and I picked the other shit. I know
Speaker 1: you've been searching for someone instead of that ship. So
Speaker 1: Scott might have called me, I'm gonna tell you, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it a buck. Scott called me maybe fifty
Speaker 1: times in the row. I had no beef for fifty seconds, right,
Speaker 1: So I had no beef with him at the time.
Speaker 2: You know that was my next question. Let's just say
Speaker 2: forty times.
Speaker 1: Are you sure you don't want that beat? Everybody says
Speaker 1: they hit Joe fifty centers in the here right now.
Speaker 1: He wants to pay me whatever on earth for this ship.
Speaker 1: Are you sure Joe? I won't give him the beat? Joe,
Speaker 1: this is your beat? Like he would not stop calling, like,
Speaker 1: are you sure Joe you don't want this ship? I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: the one Yo Joe like it was just O D
Speaker 1: And I was like, nah, nah, nah, I'm good that
Speaker 1: ship was like number one.
Speaker 2: In the universe. After you know, he told you to
Speaker 2: him selling it. He told you before he ain't give
Speaker 2: up the.
Speaker 1: Song, Okay, I told him, I ain't want it. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: My artists I wish I would have signed, would have
Speaker 2: to be hands down for.
Speaker 1: Real, like I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5: I can't tell you that Pharrell told me to sign them,
Speaker 5: but he said, could you shot my beats?
Speaker 2: This one hundred percent of real story. I went to drink.
Speaker 5: I went to bring him to see Nasi. At the time,
Speaker 5: me and Nas was mad cool like Nas. He didn't
Speaker 5: know how to roll like so he did not.
Speaker 1: Roll a blo.
Speaker 2: I don't neither. I wrote the worst blunts in the world.
Speaker 2: But We're gonna smoke.
Speaker 5: Don't judge me, you know what I'm saying. So never
Speaker 5: be curved like you. I rolle pregnant blunt ship. You
Speaker 5: know it's uncircumcised ship, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. But so he asked me to.
Speaker 1: To shot it.
Speaker 5: So I went, I bring it to Nines and he
Speaker 5: made oh baby, you want me oh, baby, you want me.
Speaker 2: I wanted to be so bad, he said. After you
Speaker 2: heard it, he said, y'all I made.
Speaker 6: It for Nas.
Speaker 2: I said, damn, I'm not a hater. He's my brother.
Speaker 2: I brung it to nas Uh. He actually played it.
Speaker 5: Nas loved it in the studio as soon as he left. Now,
Speaker 5: I said, Yo, why your man's shirts.
Speaker 2: I was discouraged.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know that, Like this was it?
Speaker 2: Like we made super dun dupe nigga.
Speaker 1: We got the number way different in the country like
Speaker 1: his nigga's doing way worse.
Speaker 5: But he was the first one though, so yeah, so
Speaker 5: and that that would be my that would be my
Speaker 5: you know uh because again for real Chad rob Walker.
Speaker 5: They never said sign me, but they said shot my beats.
Speaker 1: So to me like you know me and you we
Speaker 1: fall from from the same tree where we helped a
Speaker 1: lot of people get recognition.
Speaker 5: Getting the game and all we wanted the TV set.
Speaker 5: Slept on my couch to meet with. But he also
Speaker 5: we were close a little bit. What in New York
Speaker 5: City watched my draws.
Speaker 2: I mean I was from at the time. That's my brother,
Speaker 2: That's what It's true. He had lunch, not do that
Speaker 2: my son.
Speaker 1: He's a good guy.
Speaker 2: Let's leave on shows you the progression.
Speaker 1: Great you got listen is true, it's true. You're talking
Speaker 1: about true.
Speaker 2: It's not disrespecting.
Speaker 1: It is you, Yo, talking like this.
Speaker 2: He might my floors also.
Speaker 1: General fat Joe's not Coach Stein.
Speaker 2: It's nothing. He brought me a strip. He's my brother.
Speaker 2: He knows that. I just you know, it's true. Stops true.
Speaker 1: You got it all, guys, you got it all. Say
Speaker 1: you said it?
Speaker 2: You think crazy?
Speaker 5: You know you could have Yo.
Speaker 2: Don't like me anyways, Come on, I don't think. But
Speaker 2: I'm just a piece of it. But he's my god brother.
Speaker 1: You know, we got a lot of piece of ship. Brother.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of peo. You got a lot
Speaker 2: of people that.
Speaker 1: Got a lot of peops because you like, you're not kind.
Speaker 2: It's like what but it's still family.
Speaker 1: It's not fine that the You gotta find the good
Speaker 1: and people doing negative. That's what my father used to say.
Speaker 5: My father used to say, when you see people, see
Speaker 5: the good in them first, and then you see the bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I got an uncle. He lies a
Speaker 1: lot like he's a pathological lion, like like in this
Speaker 1: summer he'll tell you it's winter, you know, like the
Speaker 1: nigga just lying, Like why didn't we have lots of friends,
Speaker 1: like the nigga just won't stop lying to the point
Speaker 1: of you, like yo, you cannot be serious about this,
Speaker 1: like you're lying like all of them. I got to
Speaker 1: pull him to the side. But the new thing I
Speaker 1: don't I do with him because he's my he's my uncle,
Speaker 1: he's my blood. I love him, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: you know. Now when he lies, I'll be like, you
Speaker 1: know he's lying. You know, I'll tell you in their faith,
Speaker 1: in his face, he knows. My new shit is to
Speaker 1: really try to stop him from lying, is like, oh no,
Speaker 1: he's lying. We didn't go there. We just came from
Speaker 1: this niggas lying. I love him. He's really my uncle.
Speaker 1: Don't look at him crazy, because he really is my uncle.
Speaker 1: He's a fucking liar, but simple, let me ask you
Speaker 1: a question. You and he has so much great quality,
Speaker 1: so he didn't lie all the time. Be the best
Speaker 1: snig in the world.
Speaker 2: So the water, shorty, please, no disrespect, it's actually it's
Speaker 2: not water. You're killing Jesus. So me and you, me
Speaker 2: and you, we have a lot like the same thing
Speaker 2: with good people. We see the good and people.
Speaker 1: We just want everybody to win that we hope that
Speaker 1: when they do win, they don't forget where they came
Speaker 1: from and they will always be there for us. And
Speaker 1: he's so nor he's so full of ship. Bro Nory goes.
Speaker 1: He says, all right, come to my podcast one may
Speaker 1: I no. I mean, he comes in the studio last night,
Speaker 1: stops the studio right and starts playing music and starts
Speaker 1: telling everybody how I'm his best in the world, but
Speaker 1: I'm the worst nigga to ask for him verse in
Speaker 1: his life. But he's subliminately left the track there do
Speaker 1: the battery in my back to where today? Guess what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna being saw.
Speaker 2: Listen listen again.
Speaker 5: I know I said it earlier, but I feel like
Speaker 5: we should praise praise people while they here. Joe has
Speaker 5: always been there for me, just for people that know
Speaker 5: I'm I'm the worst of the worst, the best of
Speaker 5: the best in between.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And I say that I say that too, like I
Speaker 5: remember like like job, Joe is my brother, but it
Speaker 5: was rough being a job rule one point.
Speaker 2: I remember walking with joy Roll in the mall and
Speaker 2: people going.
Speaker 1: And running.
Speaker 5: This is before Twitter, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 5: right now people people would do it like this.
Speaker 2: I remember one time, like we were hanging out and
Speaker 2: I was like, I was going to the mall.
Speaker 5: He was like, well are you doing sh but mind you,
Speaker 5: he's the biggest.
Speaker 2: Like I'm okay, I can walk.
Speaker 1: Around though, right, I'm okay, yo, why didn't give you
Speaker 1: a podcast? And then it was like, I'll go with you.
Speaker 1: He's whatever.
Speaker 5: He's fifty number one a hit or off, but fifty
Speaker 5: is killing him on the streets in the radio. He's
Speaker 5: the biggest thing and alive. So we walking through the
Speaker 5: mall and I'm chilling.
Speaker 2: You know, it's nothing.
Speaker 1: This is my brother.
Speaker 2: I ain't thinking nothing of it. I just heard you
Speaker 2: bit and I'm like the first time. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna act like I ain't hear that one?
Speaker 1: You feel me? Because I'm like, just do that.
Speaker 2: Ain't for me, So just keep walking. This is my homie.
Speaker 2: Let's keep up.
Speaker 1: I heard it again. Now this time.
Speaker 2: This is when the sweats come down. You know, you
Speaker 2: know when that one piece said why don't John Ruins doing?
Speaker 1: He just kept walking out.
Speaker 2: He the first one too, we both ignored the.
Speaker 1: Person's kept it moving.
Speaker 2: But the second one was like, and you can tell
Speaker 2: it was like a white boy.
Speaker 1: He was just a fan and just wanted to say,
Speaker 1: let's just say, let's just say, let's just say, what
Speaker 1: point is I stuck with? You supposed to? Now, let's
Speaker 1: just say that's what real friends do, and this business
Speaker 1: is built on fake friends. So let's just keep it
Speaker 1: a thousand. So they say the real recognize the real.
Speaker 1: The truth is, we gotta flip that around and say
Speaker 1: the fake recognize the fake, because if you really in
Speaker 1: this industry, then it's almost like you got AIDS. There
Speaker 1: ain't no realness in this shit. Just know that, right,
Speaker 1: So we celebrate the real. But it's hard because if
Speaker 1: you analyze the ship to be going on, you can't
Speaker 1: make no sense of it. Right, So let's just say
Speaker 1: DMX probably had it the worst. Well, hold on EMX.
Speaker 1: Probably DMX has demons. M X has been using and
Speaker 1: abusing drugs.
Speaker 2: He almost supposed to call it in tonight.
Speaker 1: He almost died. Do you know you almost died? Last week?
Speaker 2: I sent the pastor to his hospital. I was, you said,
Speaker 2: the pastor to his hospital? You said, the past his hospital.
Speaker 2: That's like a whole other podcast by itself, because you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: You know what can say.
Speaker 2: You know what you say is a fact. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you I was.
Speaker 5: I was smoking we with d m X one night
Speaker 5: at four o'clock in the morning. First of all, I
Speaker 5: got a record from.
Speaker 2: When he was ten million. When he was ten million,
Speaker 2: I got a wreckord with m I can't say I'm coming.
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna get in trouble in all the blogs.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking with y'all. You're not y'all get it all out.
Speaker 2: Listen one time you gotta go, you gotta get. You
Speaker 2: gotta hear my DMX story.
Speaker 1: Now I gotta I got a.
Speaker 2: Whole long yo, Joe. This nigga sold ten million at
Speaker 2: the time. The greatest managers Ali Ali is my We
Speaker 2: know A went on tour with me. He did everything.
Speaker 5: This is my But Ali used to sell rims and queens.
Speaker 5: That's how we know him from back in the day.
Speaker 2: He used to work up queens and militia. So check it.
Speaker 2: I'm one death jam. So I called death Jam.
Speaker 5: And I said, Yo, I need you to book my
Speaker 5: flight to go see DMX. I'm ana fly on Monday
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna return on Wednesday. So Tina Davis, who
Speaker 5: is Chris Brown's manager, Tina Davis calls me and says.
Speaker 2: Nobody does the record with the dog Daddy easy for
Speaker 2: mind you.
Speaker 5: I seen DMX and River Park towers four o'clock in
Speaker 5: the morning. Niggas are throwing refrigerators out of you know
Speaker 5: what towers in the Bronx.
Speaker 2: By the way, this is not Queens. I got family
Speaker 2: and Damon and LEVI living. Do you understand how.
Speaker 5: It sounds when a fuckingfrigerator drops.
Speaker 2: And these niggas is just standing around. This is what
Speaker 2: they do for fun. And River off right the m
Speaker 2: X coming through there at four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 5: I see niggas gonna try bottom line, Nah, it's not happening,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Die just to make sure he's good. Me and Ex
Speaker 2: is good. He got the sold till man at this time.
Speaker 2: This is the hottest thing in the world DMX, So
Speaker 2: I say I'm going to l a.
Speaker 1: It's the first nigga to drop two albums. This is
Speaker 1: this is this first week like disgusting ship. He was
Speaker 1: doing so that I told you about that method. Man too,
Speaker 1: I told you I've been trying to school my son
Speaker 1: about that. So look ship boy.
Speaker 2: So I so Tim David said to me, who is
Speaker 2: Chris Brown manager?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I think or you to.
Speaker 5: But she says to me, nobody flies into LA on Monday,
Speaker 5: records with DMX on Tuesday, and it.
Speaker 2: Flies out on Wednesday, Norri. And I'm like, I'm Nori.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, you crazy man. She was right,
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, wait till I go with this.
Speaker 9: I didn't even see this nigger till Thursday. My nigga, oh,
Speaker 9: were in the same hotel. We both got the presidential
Speaker 9: switch in the w and Westwood. He got the he
Speaker 9: got the two door one. I got the other one
Speaker 9: with the one doll. Right, I don't even see this nigga.
Speaker 9: You next door to this, next.
Speaker 2: Door to this nigger. Right, this nigga knocks on my
Speaker 2: door four.
Speaker 5: O'clock in the morning, Thursday morning, four o'clock, which means
Speaker 5: that seven am, New York time, knocks.
Speaker 1: On my door. Your dogs you ready, dog?
Speaker 2: So I'm like, holy shit, hell yeah, ready, I know
Speaker 2: what this is what CNN record too. It's not like
Speaker 2: a Norri record CNN. This is this is the hood,
Speaker 2: the hood. I gotta get this ship. He didn't not
Speaker 2: gonna compone door. He knocked on my dogs. So, yo,
Speaker 2: let me tell you.
Speaker 1: Why did you nor was already platinum? Yes, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but I had to get the job. This is wrong.
Speaker 2: This is what your man had to do. This is
Speaker 2: what I had to do.
Speaker 5: The nigga walks works me up, We go downstairs, got
Speaker 5: six cars downstairs.
Speaker 2: Four days later, so I got this is this is
Speaker 2: four days it's Thursday.
Speaker 5: I flew out mondayn't see the nigga to Thursday, four
Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning, which.
Speaker 2: Is technically Friday. The nigga is six cars is downstairs.
Speaker 2: I tell my niggas, wake up, wake up.
Speaker 1: Bring the car out.
Speaker 2: My car comes out. He's like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: you're driving with me. So I heard about this nigga
Speaker 2: with this driving shit. Fuck is line. This is what
Speaker 2: you gotta do. This is what you gotta do, right,
Speaker 2: this is what you Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 5: Yo. If anybody ever went stayed at the W Hotel
Speaker 5: in Westwood, we drove six cars, right plus my two.
Speaker 1: From the W.
Speaker 5: Westwood all the way around right to Ralph's parking lot,
Speaker 5: which like we could have walked in, so you went
Speaker 5: around the old ship.
Speaker 2: Just to go right across the street the park. But
Speaker 2: he he's a driver. He wants to drive there. He
Speaker 2: doesn't want to walk there. So we pull out God
Speaker 2: goes you like cars.
Speaker 5: I'm like, he pulls out like seven thousand dollars worth,
Speaker 5: like the real expensive mo control cars.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, but what I'm gonna say. I
Speaker 2: don't want to do this.
Speaker 1: I need this verse.
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting there with the Mogan troll cars.
Speaker 1: I'm acting like I like.
Speaker 6: Time.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, cool, I did it.
Speaker 1: Boom.
Speaker 2: He just drives off. It's over. Never see him again,
Speaker 2: right boom. The next day he hits me, let's go, noy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, it's gonna happen. Mind you. Deth
Speaker 2: Jam's calling me every day. We got the session locked out,
Speaker 2: three thousand dollars a day.
Speaker 5: For Monday's like yo, I'm like, now I can't, but
Speaker 5: I don't want.
Speaker 2: To tell them they were right. So I'm like, cheer, cheer,
Speaker 2: just cheer, just cheer.
Speaker 1: Chip.
Speaker 5: This motherfucker's like, yo, let's go, let's go. He took
Speaker 5: me to Dublins. Now, I didn't know at the time
Speaker 5: Dublins was a fucking pool hall. Right, I'm thinking Dublins
Speaker 5: might be the studio he was going to buying. I
Speaker 5: never seen the studio paying three racks every day we went.
Speaker 2: He goes to the pool. The second favorite thing I
Speaker 2: hain't in life. Don't fucking play fucking pool. Playing pool.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there acting like I like pool again. Fucking
Speaker 5: Sunday morning. We're just hanging out. I still don't get diverse.
Speaker 2: But he's hanging with me. I know he's not this
Speaker 2: with me. Some random dude just walks on the street.
Speaker 2: He's like, yo, door, Max, Like, what up?
Speaker 1: Dog?
Speaker 5: He's like, I got a studio right here, he said, Yo, Norri,
Speaker 5: look at that.
Speaker 1: We got the studio. I said, I'm done, Josh, take
Speaker 1: me down, y'all gotta do it. So but he just
Speaker 1: love your man. He's just like, yes, Joe, excuse you not.
Speaker 5: Bect somebody off the fucking rick random and we're like,
Speaker 5: are we gonna use this studio?
Speaker 1: I'm like the dog.
Speaker 5: He's like, you, that's what you've been looking for, right,
Speaker 5: I said, Dog? I had the studio book since Monday,
Speaker 5: were going there.
Speaker 2: You know, here's the crazy ship. The niggas start laying
Speaker 2: his verse home. He's guiding it. Me and Paul looking
Speaker 2: at each other like we got it.
Speaker 5: All of a sudden, the music is just dad right,
Speaker 5: and nobody's in the studio saying nothing.
Speaker 2: So we're sitting there.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting around you know me, I'm like, I'm aa
Speaker 5: control freak. I'm sorry, I can't help it. So I'm like, yo, yo,
Speaker 5: what's up. Everybody's didding. I'm saying that I'll open this ship.
Speaker 5: This nigga is laid out, not out, yo. Everybody's like, yo,
Speaker 5: nobody wake, nobody fucks with the dog while he's sleeping.
Speaker 5: I just paid this hunt nigga too. I paid listen,
Speaker 5: I paid the whole week, and I just paid the.
Speaker 2: Hood nigga because I'm like, he's like, y'all do it
Speaker 2: for you for free.
Speaker 1: I'm like, now he fell out and need all my
Speaker 1: five how many how many balls?
Speaker 2: He was like he was like six and a half.
Speaker 2: Damn you know.
Speaker 1: I mean that was but let me tell you. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you real quick. The nigga we and Jimmy's Cafe.
Speaker 1: The nigga d MX come up in there and he
Speaker 1: sees Tony Sunshine and the nigga had like a love fest.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sunshine, I.
Speaker 2: Fucking love you.
Speaker 4: I'm like.
Speaker 1: Nigga doing he's doing all that ship right. So we're
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. Were in the bathroom, in the bathroom,
Speaker 1: Jimmy's Cafe, Jimmy Bosks Cafe. Tony, I gotta work with you, y'all.
Speaker 1: The ship yo, yo, norm I gotta work with you,
Speaker 1: same ship right said, This is DMX exactly what you're
Speaker 1: talking about. Nigga was selling a million records a week.
Speaker 1: Nigga like out of this world me. You know, Tony
Speaker 1: signed to me.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, great, like, let's work like you know.
Speaker 1: What you want to do. I'm flying Tony to l A.
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta hear this Doory.
Speaker 1: Same exempt up ship, Tony hanging out with the nigga.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think I took. I said Tony and
Speaker 1: mat show Tony and Macho to get it done. And
Speaker 1: you know Matcho really trying to get it done here.
Speaker 1: He's that niggas like y'all. He ain't happy, he don't
Speaker 1: like nothing. So the nigga calling me back every day
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, being this nigga got us on the
Speaker 1: front of that this this, this, this the nigga Tony Sunshine.
Speaker 1: They finally same ship. I think that was his gimmick.
Speaker 1: A week later, nigga I forgot the niggas was in
Speaker 1: that late like a week later, the nigga Macho called me.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, you crack. You ain't gonna believe
Speaker 1: this ship. God, I said, what happened? He said, the
Speaker 1: niggas started rapping and went to sleep, no swear to God.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I was. I was like what
Speaker 1: he said, Yo, That nigga out like if a nigga
Speaker 1: hit him with a hammer. And niggas was telling the
Speaker 1: same ship. You can't wake the dog up. Nobody waked
Speaker 1: the dog up right now.
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm a nigga.
Speaker 5: I tried.
Speaker 1: What is all right? The scary thing about this story
Speaker 1: is that these stories is in music until you're not
Speaker 1: a bread maker. When you were brad making somebody like
Speaker 1: Rest in Peace, Whitney Houston. They was letting her get
Speaker 1: away with the wildest shit because niggas work for them
Speaker 1: and they scared to tell them, like yo, chill you
Speaker 1: bugging out? Yeah, But I mean, but it's how good
Speaker 1: is your check if you letting if you work for
Speaker 1: Fat Joe and you're letting them kill himself, deteriorate himself,
Speaker 1: and you're thinking about your check right now. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, all checks is gone when
Speaker 1: I'm going and it's an enabler.
Speaker 5: This ship is crazy, my nigga, and let me get back.
Speaker 5: Let me just tell you the reason why. Because my
Speaker 5: grandmother had passed away. And my grandmother passed away. A
Speaker 5: pastor he was out there.
Speaker 2: He was he was listen.
Speaker 1: He was like that.
Speaker 2: He was like the hip hop.
Speaker 5: Pastor, Like he was quoting versus that my grandmother's fucking funeral.
Speaker 2: And like, you know, you don't have fun at the funeral,
Speaker 2: Like I'm looking up.
Speaker 5: He was quoting lines, hip hop lines, and I was
Speaker 5: like yo, I said, Yo, give me your number.
Speaker 2: I said, yo, I need I need you. You're his manager. No,
Speaker 2: I told him I'm gonna need him for I was
Speaker 2: gonna put him on a drunk Uncle Roger.
Speaker 5: But then I thought about it. I was like, I'm
Speaker 5: way too negative, you know, the squeeze in something.
Speaker 1: I need this.
Speaker 2: But I helped because if.
Speaker 1: Some blow Moore, I can get the nigga to talk
Speaker 1: some ship real where where he's just talking that ship
Speaker 1: and so look, so now let me tell you now,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get shot.
Speaker 2: At the one time. So look, one time, we're all
Speaker 2: in l A. We're smoking, we drinking whatever.
Speaker 5: And in the middle of all that, DMX said, Yo,
Speaker 5: can you brothers do me a favor? Can you put
Speaker 5: all that down.
Speaker 1: And pray and pray? He want to do that and
Speaker 1: do that to me every time I say he, I
Speaker 1: know you want to pray, Yeah, he'll pray. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I figured maybe he hear it from somebody else.
Speaker 2: So I put them on this one and we ain't
Speaker 2: never speaking about this. We ain't never speak about this.
Speaker 2: Is real.
Speaker 1: I love them.
Speaker 2: He knows I love him.
Speaker 1: So every time I see him, we gotta pray, man, right,
Speaker 1: Yah know, he prays for me, man. But I don't understand,
Speaker 1: like I don't you know, I don't get it. Man.
Speaker 1: He's a complicated dude, And it's like it's sad man
Speaker 1: because people really love him. Sometimes people love you and
Speaker 1: you deal with so many demons and depression, but they
Speaker 1: can't even affect you with like sometimes I'm having a
Speaker 1: shitty day and even if I'm fat, Joe niggas saying y'all,
Speaker 1: I love you, your music is great, I still feel
Speaker 1: like shit, you know what I'm saying. So people got
Speaker 1: to deal with their own things their own way.
Speaker 2: But when you got drugs involved, it's a whole. So
Speaker 2: we gotta just pray. We gotta pray.
Speaker 1: I had a pastor when I lived in the projects
Speaker 1: and ship and the nigga would always talk to me
Speaker 1: and then we just wild niggas and ship before rap
Speaker 1: music and all that. And the nigga would talk to
Speaker 1: me and pray all the time. He was also the
Speaker 1: work for housing that he was the sweep and you
Speaker 1: know custodian nigga, right, so he would always talk to
Speaker 1: me and Joey, you know, you need to change your
Speaker 1: life and this and this and that. And what was
Speaker 1: crazy is the time when I had got shot, and
Speaker 1: I got shot maybe fifteen blocks from my block, like
Speaker 1: I wasn't around my hood. But while I'm laying, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, getting shot, laying the fucking pastor
Speaker 1: who used to work in my projects. As I'm running
Speaker 1: and shit like that, he's out there praying for me.
Speaker 1: Like the nigga literally is like I see him, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fuck the pastor doing over here?
Speaker 1: Joey is trying to come to God. You know I
Speaker 1: was out there praying. You know, I was out there praying, right,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, Pastor. You know, I'm always been
Speaker 1: a respectful nigga and shit, so I'm like, yeah, past
Speaker 1: the boom. So I remember one time the police was
Speaker 1: so mad at me to this day, they're still mad,
Speaker 1: right because they couldn't catch me. So they would hear
Speaker 1: shots fired, fat nigga with red hoodie, you know, like
Speaker 1: they knew what was going on. They just couldn't pln
Speaker 1: it on a nigga and they was just so fucking
Speaker 1: eat it right. So I remember one time we had
Speaker 1: some beef and were standing in front of the building
Speaker 1: and we strapped, I mean like super strapped right, were
Speaker 1: ready to go down right, and we got no clue.
Speaker 1: We just you talking about how we're gonna go over
Speaker 1: here and handle our business whatever. So the pastor come over.
Speaker 1: You gotta see you, said Yo, Joey. He said, don't look,
Speaker 1: don't act like you're talking to me. I said, yo's pastor,
Speaker 1: And we act like we talked. He was like, there's
Speaker 1: so many cops on both sides of this building there
Speaker 1: about the rush yard. This is the pastor. I don't
Speaker 1: even think. He ain't supposed to do that. Right when
Speaker 1: you in church, you're supposed to do that.
Speaker 2: He's supposed to listen. If you want to relate to
Speaker 2: the community, you got to be a part of the community.
Speaker 2: You got to be a party. Yo.
Speaker 1: So this nigga tells me right, So I'm like, word,
Speaker 1: He's like, Yo, they on that side and that side.
Speaker 1: So this nigga I was cool with. It's a real passer.
Speaker 1: This nigga I was cool with. Live on the first floor.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna give him no props, give him say
Speaker 1: his name, but I'll tell niggas. It was like three
Speaker 1: of us had hammers. I was like, yo, and like
Speaker 1: the counter. Three nigga we boogy and we diving in
Speaker 1: Homeboy's window. Nigga some one nigga. We just said, wow,
Speaker 1: we went, We took off. We all jumped in the window, right,
Speaker 1: so we shut the window down. You hear the cops
Speaker 1: like one minute where they go because everybody else ran,
Speaker 1: but we got away. We got the hammers, but we
Speaker 1: under the window like a movie, like the windows over us.
Speaker 1: And we're like, and you hear these niggas. There was
Speaker 1: like twenty thirty cops both like how did these niggas
Speaker 1: get away? Right? They bugging out? They on both sides.
Speaker 1: So if I ran around this building, they catch me
Speaker 1: on this side or they bugging out, Like how does
Speaker 1: niggas get away? Right? So we're sitting up there. My
Speaker 1: man's mom's her name was Cheeky Dina. I'll never forget.
Speaker 1: She came over to me.
Speaker 2: She was like, she sounds gangster, she said in Spanish.
Speaker 1: She told me in Spanish, but I'll tell you in English.
Speaker 1: She was like, you guys are bringing me eat to
Speaker 1: my house. Yo, snack my dog?
Speaker 2: Yo, like you making my ship hot?
Speaker 1: And she called the coup, was like, please don't call it.
Speaker 1: Catch you Motherfucker's this Dudey's like, Chi, please don't say nothing.
Speaker 1: But we got away with it. We can never jump
Speaker 1: jump in the window again with the past that helped
Speaker 1: me get away.
Speaker 2: That's right, clipping Howard Daniels, is is our that? I sid?
Speaker 5: That's the one you said, absolutely, man, because you know
Speaker 5: what I believe in, what religion you believe?
Speaker 6: For your religion, if you felt you were sending what
Speaker 6: he what he prefers into.
Speaker 2: Listen, he prayed for me.
Speaker 5: Like this is source of wards weekend in La when
Speaker 5: we was on that ship, like your nigga wold like
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like I'm from New York.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna leave with my jury, Like that's
Speaker 5: my word, that's that's that's that's how I felt at
Speaker 5: that time.
Speaker 2: So my mind framed. He's also he also saved me,
Speaker 2: like when we landed. When we landed, Yeah, when we landed,
Speaker 2: we see Eve and all this ship.
Speaker 5: Like so we out there and we're seeing like bitches,
Speaker 5: like you know, like rap bitches, and they fuck with me.
Speaker 2: I got to you know, I got to wreck it
Speaker 2: out that super Doug was killing them. So I'm thinking
Speaker 2: it's love.
Speaker 1: It's not love.
Speaker 5: A nigga Dmxican came to my man, this is one
Speaker 5: hundredercent real story. He said, the dogs got.
Speaker 1: To watch the dog.
Speaker 2: So if the dogs is with the dogs, then the
Speaker 2: dogs ain't gonna month try the dog. So if the
Speaker 2: dogs always around the dogs, the dogs stay with the dogs,
Speaker 2: and a dog.
Speaker 5: Can never come around by itself. The nigga gave them
Speaker 5: my people's five. As soon as he walk away.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this nigga certified crazy.
Speaker 5: My man from the Bronx twenty two Ronald Joining is
Speaker 5: his real name. Twenty two is my brother.
Speaker 2: He said, understood everything I said.
Speaker 5: What he said he said, he said, look like the
Speaker 5: rappers the target make and then me and Poem Poem
Speaker 5: reached the jag. I rented a Porsch and then we
Speaker 5: rented like a fifteen passenger van and stay behind us
Speaker 5: real me. So the dog said, make sure the dogs
Speaker 5: is always around the dog. Don't never let the dog
Speaker 5: come out by himself, which meanings, don't let the nigga
Speaker 5: walk by herself. Like it doesn't matter, like nor Reay
Speaker 5: is a real nigga. Poem is a real nigga. But
Speaker 5: they got jury on. That's what it's gonna tracked to them,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like I was like wow
Speaker 5: when I deciphered it, I was like, this niggas mad smart,
Speaker 5: Like he's super smarter than they give him credit for.
Speaker 5: Then people give him credit for like you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, and super hood.
Speaker 2: First of all, I want to thank you man.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, hey, yo, man, this was
Speaker 1: a long podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, no, it could have been longer longer.
Speaker 2: You already say you're not coming back.
Speaker 1: You gotta call this ship like the Bible or some ship.
Speaker 5: You got to like that, chapters of the Fact Bible,
Speaker 5: the Found Bible.
Speaker 2: Let's go in here for back before you bounce. I
Speaker 2: got something personal, please, this is personal ship.
Speaker 6: So you know, as Latinos, we grow up and we grasping,
Speaker 6: like we said, Hotel Luis, gotcha, were grasping onto that
Speaker 6: as Latinos so and then as Latinos, then we sub
Speaker 6: grasp I'm Cuban, I'm Puerto Rican, I'm Dominican.
Speaker 2: Then we're trying to find those cats in the game.
Speaker 2: So you but then I find out, let me find out,
Speaker 2: I'm Cuban.
Speaker 1: Cuban. You should have known that from day one.
Speaker 2: No, I knew that early on, but it wasn't representing
Speaker 2: the music.
Speaker 1: I was like, it's really I don't know how to
Speaker 1: represent Cuban in the music.
Speaker 2: So so what's the story behind that?
Speaker 1: Is my question? Because the only way I like, I
Speaker 1: break it all down to you, right, the only way
Speaker 1: to break it down to you is if we did Cuban.
Speaker 1: We would have to do come on, everybody want you
Speaker 1: to do that? Comet the come on, I'm nigga, Like
Speaker 1: that's what it would be, my nigga. So it's like.
Speaker 2: It is it likely where you grew.
Speaker 1: Up what happened is my father's Cuban, my mother's Puerto Rican.
Speaker 1: My Cuban side of my family was from Miami. Was
Speaker 1: from like Jersey. They was from Jersey then they moved
Speaker 1: to Miami. So I grew up with the Puerto Ricans mostly,
Speaker 1: like really with the Puerto Ricans, with my mother, my
Speaker 1: father and everything. But I never denied that I was
Speaker 1: Cuban in any way, shape or form. But I screamed
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico so loud that Cubans didn't see it. But
Speaker 1: if you go back to nineteen ninety three when I
Speaker 1: came out and you read, hey there's a new rapper
Speaker 1: on this set, he's Puerto Rican and Cuban from day one. No,
Speaker 1: no go catch it the internet.
Speaker 2: Somebody like for example Kell.
Speaker 6: Like Curious George when he said I'm half Castro, half whatever,
Speaker 6: like he said.
Speaker 1: It in the line and I didn't know what he meant.
Speaker 2: No, I knew it because I'm Cuban.
Speaker 6: And when Tim was saying Cuban Spanish like they was
Speaker 6: Cyper Cuban.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I thought there was Mexican George. I thought
Speaker 1: he was.
Speaker 6: I'm originally from the same hood as Cyper So, I'm
Speaker 6: originally from La So. But when they were speaking Spanish
Speaker 6: and they had that song, I forget the Latin Lingua.
Speaker 6: There wasn't Latin linguals the other record on the on
Speaker 6: their album to that Sekies they were saying sing guy
Speaker 6: and this and that, and.
Speaker 1: It was like, you're Cuban, like we knew it as Cubans.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, the Mexican they killed making news, I
Speaker 2: just found out that the Cuban h yeah, it was Mexican.
Speaker 1: Mel Man was was Cuban? You Cuba?
Speaker 6: His brother is s dog and then be real, I
Speaker 6: think he's half Cuban half Mexican.
Speaker 1: I think, Well, me personally, I get a little I'm
Speaker 1: glad we had this conversation, but I get slightly offended
Speaker 1: because I know I've been representing the Cubans since even
Speaker 1: even I saw me and you had I've been representing
Speaker 1: Cuban since day one. So my thing is, well, document
Speaker 1: meant it like if you go back to my interviews
Speaker 1: from day one to be like father Cuban, mother Puerto Rican, right,
Speaker 1: But I did grow up with my Puerto Rican side more.
Speaker 1: Uh so I always rapped Cuban. I have brothers and
Speaker 1: sisters from Cuba. I brought back nine brothers and sisters
Speaker 1: from Cuba over here. You know, I don't even know
Speaker 1: how they think. While they were there, I was supporting them,
Speaker 1: building homes for them niggas so they can live, like
Speaker 1: you can't keep.
Speaker 2: It really than me.
Speaker 1: My father's Cuban, the worst kind of Cuban you can have.
Speaker 1: Like he'll argue with you politically for ten hours, like
Speaker 1: you know my family. So you know, I always bucked
Speaker 1: out when I bumped into a Cuban and they was
Speaker 1: telling me like, yo, I ain't know you was Cuban.
Speaker 2: I was like, so you I see that early on
Speaker 2: Like there, I was like, you ain't paying attention. You
Speaker 2: ain't paying attention, maybe not when you said it originally
Speaker 2: ninety let's just say.
Speaker 1: So you know you met, like why we didn't say
Speaker 1: Cuban called Cuban link, right, but Cuban link. He wanted
Speaker 1: to rap Cubans and you ain't really want to hear that.
Speaker 1: You really ain't want to hear. Come on, everybody want
Speaker 1: you to do that. If we would have let that
Speaker 1: nigga got and we would have let that nigga go,
Speaker 1: either threw on the guire nigga, we tell a squad
Speaker 1: soft bron killing niggas, like stop. He really wanted to
Speaker 1: be the first pit bull, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: he wanted the shirt. He wanted to do that bad
Speaker 1: and we was like, yo, my nigga, we killed nig
Speaker 1: I remember me, And pun used to argue with this thing, Yo,
Speaker 1: what the fuck you doing?
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 1: But you know we can't. We made music for everybody,
Speaker 1: so you gotta you gotta know that we make music
Speaker 1: for everybody. So hip hop itself is a subculture of
Speaker 1: sub religion, right. I don't really get offended when white
Speaker 1: people say, nigga, that's a hip hop fan. I really
Speaker 1: don't because they white niggas, but because hip hop is one,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's like a religion. I don't feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, a motherfucker, you gotta be Spanish, you gotta
Speaker 1: be black, you gotta be white, you gotta be Chinese,
Speaker 1: you gotta be I just feel like be proud of
Speaker 1: who you are, rap who you are, but make music
Speaker 1: for everybody. And that's some of the problems we've had
Speaker 1: with Latino rappers. You know what I'm saying. Like me personally,
Speaker 1: I don't know how they ain't more successful Latino rappers
Speaker 1: because we put the blueprint out there.
Speaker 2: We've been from the beginning. No, no, no, hip hop is.
Speaker 1: Not black music. It's black and Latino music originally from
Speaker 1: not that's not the discussion. I'm saying Fat Joe Big
Speaker 1: pun Nor. We put the blueprints Cypress, like, of course Cypress,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying Cypress. So what I'm saying that we
Speaker 1: took dead blueprint right like just keep it real. But
Speaker 1: it's out there. So what's the excuse is Cipus Hills.
Speaker 1: They performing for white people, black people trying to how
Speaker 1: can I kill a man? A nigga want to come.
Speaker 1: I ain't want to make straight Latino music. I sit down,
Speaker 1: especially West Coast Latino rappers, whenever I sat down with
Speaker 1: them and I have one on one with them, because
Speaker 1: I always want to give niggas knowledge. I sit down
Speaker 1: and be like, Yo, Poppy, I know you Mexican. We
Speaker 1: want you to rap Mexican, but make music for everybody. Nah,
Speaker 1: but you gotta be the biggest nigga. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think if there was a fly, handsome Mexican nigga spitting
Speaker 1: that shit, just spitting that shit. Black girls, white girls,
Speaker 1: everything would fucking love this nigga. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it couldn't. It shouldn't be a barrier. You shouldn't.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't enclose yourself to a certain category. And that's
Speaker 1: how you know. I always approached the game. And me also,
Speaker 1: I came from a neighborhood that was ninety nine point
Speaker 1: nine percent black. So it's so imagined. If you see
Speaker 1: a pack of black lions or black panthers in the
Speaker 1: in the jungle, and this nigga non stopped calling. Bro,
Speaker 1: you see a pack of black panthers and you see
Speaker 1: one white panther with them. That was always fat Jump.
Speaker 1: Her story was only one only Spanish white nigga with
Speaker 1: blond hair, with five hundred black niggas just walking through.
Speaker 2: And he was the only Puerto Rican and I was
Speaker 2: the only queen's dude in the Bronx.
Speaker 10: Like people not people used to be like, why are
Speaker 10: you here? I used to be like, why are you sure,
Speaker 10: you old king minutes away?
Speaker 1: I'm just ten minut Like what the fuck was he doing?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: But now that's just the way. That's the way I
Speaker 1: was raised. So I was raised raised in the community
Speaker 1: where it was all black, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it was like, you know, like I consider myself
Speaker 1: black too. Like as weird as it sounds, I'm proud
Speaker 1: to be Latino. I'm waved the in the black delegation
Speaker 1: to worry about it, you know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: serious fact, like I'm black. It's weird because I tell
Speaker 1: black people that all the time and they'll be like, yo,
Speaker 1: what do you mean, Like, nigga, I'm black nigga. Like
Speaker 1: with you, I'm blacker than you because you want to
Speaker 1: be a black white guy. I'm stand this black nigga.
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. Hell yeah, it's Harvard black nigga. Nigga.
Speaker 2: I'm black nigga. To me, I had it worse because
Speaker 2: like I would hang out with the with the with
Speaker 2: the black people. Then I would go with the war
Speaker 2: Ricans and they like cocola and on. Then I had
Speaker 2: to go to God.
Speaker 5: Then I gotta go with the black people, and they
Speaker 5: got their respects and all, and it's like.
Speaker 1: And you in the middle, in the middle, like I'm
Speaker 1: going to no, no, no, I want to tell your
Speaker 1: story the lat Kings, right.
Speaker 5: I mean yes, a fa, I mean jai super, I
Speaker 5: mean I'm in jail, right, the Latin case.
Speaker 2: They they doing some ship for the dentists. Right, I'm
Speaker 2: in jail right. What they're doing for the dentists, know
Speaker 2: what they're doing.
Speaker 5: No, they're fucking they're recruiting every Spanish person in the unit.
Speaker 2: But what they're doing is saying that you got to
Speaker 2: go to the dentists in jail.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So these dudes come and they're like Victor Santiago.
Speaker 5: So I stand up for the people who don't know
Speaker 5: that's that's my name, super Porto Rican, right.
Speaker 2: So I stood up and the dude's like not you
Speaker 2: got you? So I sat back down.
Speaker 5: Then they go Victor Santiago and I'm like, yo, I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna keep standing up.
Speaker 2: And then they're like but not you, not you right time.
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, yo, I'm not standing up again. They're like,
Speaker 2: you're Victor Ctiago. That's my name. So like the guard
Speaker 2: the sea. Old nigga was down with he was a
Speaker 2: Latin kings king. So they pulled me in the dentist.
Speaker 2: Niggas put all raises to me, like, yo, you Cuban.
Speaker 2: I'm like no, they're like Dominican. I'm like no, They're like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you? Why the fuck is.
Speaker 5: Your name Victor Santiago. So I'm like, yo, I'm for
Speaker 5: the Weekend in Black. They're like, dang, I can't really
Speaker 5: be down with us, they said, but they.
Speaker 2: Got the raisins to me. I can't do nothing. They
Speaker 2: actually set me up where like you know, you're sitting
Speaker 2: k mos.
Speaker 5: I'm like, they said, so this is what we're gonna do.
Speaker 5: We're gonna make you a gnat. I had never heard.
Speaker 2: They said we're gonna make you ant because they they
Speaker 2: see my sheet. My sheet was clean fish. But I'm trapped.
Speaker 2: There's nothing I can do, doesn't matter with guy to
Speaker 2: get out of there.
Speaker 5: So they're like, we're gonna make you a nut and
Speaker 5: I say, yo, my dude, I'm that new truth. People
Speaker 5: like I'm both. I can't listen.
Speaker 2: I go to the yard. I love handball. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm nice. Pun Pun beat me a handball one.
Speaker 1: No, I never hated you.
Speaker 2: Never never listen, beat you a handball.
Speaker 5: In his death like yo, I had to get my rematch,
Speaker 5: like like when he died, I was like, Yo, I
Speaker 5: needed my rematch.
Speaker 2: Like you know, fat niggas is the best niggas in handball.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know that.
Speaker 2: Kills the game.
Speaker 5: No Edi gigs the fact that he's greater than me
Speaker 5: and you. We played handballer. We got serious at one point, just.
Speaker 2: Came out of jail.
Speaker 1: The nigga don't said, Yo, we gotta play hamble and
Speaker 1: we went somewhere out here.
Speaker 2: See, people don't know this about me.
Speaker 5: I'm actually I thought I was a handball expert until
Speaker 5: like anybody that like like pun beat me an amble,
Speaker 5: I never like, oh, I.
Speaker 2: Never actually forgave him.
Speaker 1: Superhuman even in death.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I still need like like a god bless
Speaker 5: because you know, hopefully you know whatever. But when we
Speaker 5: see each other and happen, that's probably the first thing
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say to him. Rematch this how I was
Speaker 5: gonna go a love you house heaven rematched? All right,
Speaker 5: So listen that being said, we're all we all latinos.
Speaker 5: I want to end it on who's your favorite Latino
Speaker 5: besides Pun, besides Norri, besides Joe, because it will be unfair.
Speaker 2: So my favorite Latino who hit me?
Speaker 1: Kid Frost.
Speaker 2: And I heard this is what.
Speaker 1: You thought? He was dope different.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, pick up the school Devil.
Speaker 1: His Scoop Deville is a legendary, but I say Scoop Devil,
Speaker 1: but my favorite. I knew Kid Fraud since I started.
Speaker 1: He was on Relativity to get out of there.
Speaker 2: And uneasy label.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't ruthless, and then I couldn't really you
Speaker 1: can't get what you're from now because he was like
Speaker 1: I met the real kid Frauds.
Speaker 2: And I was just like, different person. We don't know
Speaker 2: this story. He was trying to let you go, but
Speaker 2: now you got it. You already, it's already you gotta go.
Speaker 1: I couldn't do that. But all I can say is
Speaker 1: that back to the West Coast, they looking ship different
Speaker 1: than we look at it. So you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm hanging out with I'm gonna just see you the
Speaker 1: miniature version of it, because I wouldn't do that. But
Speaker 1: he comes to New York, so I'm like, yo, I
Speaker 1: gotta salute the Mexican homies this. So I take them
Speaker 1: Jimmy's Cafe and we walked down the block. All you know,
Speaker 1: as we're walking out, everybody like, yo, crack, what's up
Speaker 1: my nigga? Your crack? What's up? What's up? Soup? So
Speaker 1: I'm walking, I'm dapping everybody. And we walked like half
Speaker 1: a block and he says, Yo, Joe, can they talk
Speaker 1: to you owns not kid frauds. I'm with them. I
Speaker 1: got them in New York, feeding them. Will we chilling brothers?
Speaker 1: Do they funk with the black guys?
Speaker 2: That's that's the problem.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like what He's like, No, man, I
Speaker 1: see you're talking to all these guys.
Speaker 2: I'm bugging out.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, no nigga's And that was a once
Speaker 1: in a light. You know, we hung out one time.
Speaker 1: He probably over there saying, fuck fat Joe Yang out
Speaker 1: with the black guys. I couldn't, you know, but you
Speaker 1: know I couldn't. Ah, Spanish dudes that influenced.
Speaker 2: Me will not influence you or even just you think
Speaker 2: that it's hard or.
Speaker 1: Hot, the hardest niggas ever, the hardest niggas ever, Somebody
Speaker 1: who impressed me? Can I say to yeah, you can't,
Speaker 1: and I always say him. But somebody who impressed me
Speaker 1: at a young age who was a fly nigga was
Speaker 1: Teeto from the Pheelis four And the rumors I used
Speaker 1: to hear about him when I was a young kid
Speaker 1: was like he was getting money. He was a flying nigga,
Speaker 1: fucking all the bad bitches and the Phelis four was,
Speaker 1: you know, an amazing rap crew. He's somebody I looked
Speaker 1: up to even to this day when I see him.
Speaker 5: And be like, Yo, ain't gonna we gotta make noise
Speaker 5: for Joe being super hip hop on his first pick.
Speaker 1: Somebody like what the the fearless for niggas? Tito from
Speaker 1: the Philis four boys, Like he was a fly nigga.
Speaker 2: You're a real hip hop bro.
Speaker 5: Just you just really showed the world saw acause niggas
Speaker 5: is googles and then google that nigga.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you a secret. Right when we
Speaker 1: was shooting the video, John Blaze and Queen's we were
Speaker 1: shooting it.
Speaker 2: John Blaize, I was there.
Speaker 5: It was in Brooklyn, in Brooklyn, green Point, Greenpoint, So
Speaker 5: it was Pun's birth.
Speaker 2: You listen me and NAS's beefing.
Speaker 1: Do you remember this?
Speaker 2: Me and beefing and you called me to scotch the
Speaker 2: beef for nons?
Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
Speaker 5: And that's why when Nina's verse plays, I'm the only
Speaker 5: person that's in the verse with Nins because I think
Speaker 5: I hung out with car Maga.
Speaker 2: Some bullshit happens when you love.
Speaker 1: So he goes like to yeah, Nas love, he's a
Speaker 1: special guy too. So no, he's a special guy.
Speaker 2: So and me and I stopped talking and you called.
Speaker 1: Me and was squashed its brother, so we so we
Speaker 1: turned around and this is real ship. Yeah, now we
Speaker 1: gave him too much rep show.
Speaker 2: This is two seconds.
Speaker 1: Tito from the Phillis four came out of nowhere to
Speaker 1: the video and he had a cake. He knew it
Speaker 1: was Pun's birthday. He never met Pun John Blaine. So
Speaker 1: he comes in the trailer and he gets it. He
Speaker 1: brings out a cake and the nigga pulls out a
Speaker 1: bunch of hundred dollars bills and put him like candles
Speaker 1: on the cake. This Tito philis, he wasn't even a
Speaker 1: rapper no more, like you know, he was beyond the
Speaker 1: old ge crazy.
Speaker 5: They'll get money threw up the Hunters name of the
Speaker 5: record that we're doing. By the way, still of course
Speaker 5: still getting money.
Speaker 1: Right, your man, listen, your man turned around and I'm
Speaker 1: explaining the putn of what it is, and it's Tito.
Speaker 1: He's the rich. Didn't didn't really knowing, So I go
Speaker 1: like this, your ponies like the nigga, the first nigga.
Speaker 1: This this dad fly Spanish nigga. Tito lit up all
Speaker 1: the fucking hundred dollars bills and Punk blew it out.
Speaker 1: We ate the cake. Tito's a stand up guy. Man,
Speaker 1: he's a beautiful person. You said too, And I gotta
Speaker 1: give it to Cypress Hills because we both.
Speaker 2: Gave in to the West Coast. I'm sorry. I didn't
Speaker 2: know Kid Frost to think about it, but I'm still
Speaker 2: Cypress Cuban too.
Speaker 1: And anyway, except Kid Frost, and he is representing the Ross.
Speaker 5: I love it because because you know why, you know,
Speaker 5: I actually understand it.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 5: I did a movie. It's a horror flick called Seven Mummies.
Speaker 5: I don't recommend you see it.
Speaker 2: I did it.
Speaker 5: Question rember Nick questioned the first two videos I ever
Speaker 5: shot in my life.
Speaker 1: He shot it so you felt Lowyer was l a
Speaker 1: l ay.
Speaker 2: So he he told me to come to Arizona. I did, uh,
Speaker 2: noel G from training Jade training day.
Speaker 1: No, no, don't say no more niggas, the mummy niggas
Speaker 1: get fucked up.
Speaker 2: Ain't fun.
Speaker 5: And then and then they killed me like I played
Speaker 5: the black guy in the horror, Like my favorite role
Speaker 5: is paid in for when it comes over to the car, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I freest out that whole not oh man legend,
Speaker 2: garry wrong.
Speaker 1: I was like your Samuel Jackson moment.
Speaker 2: But actually I mean, we'll go there. We'll go there.
Speaker 5: So look, so noel G noel G me and him
Speaker 5: got mad cool like I'm talking about like he hung
Speaker 5: out my trailer. I hung out in his trailer. And
Speaker 5: he's from East I'm gonna say East New York, East
Speaker 5: l A. So I flew to l A one time.
Speaker 2: I was like, Yo, I want to go to your hood.
Speaker 2: He was like he had to keep it real with me.
Speaker 5: He was like, nah, you know, I go any hood, Joe,
Speaker 5: East New York, pink houses.
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. But when the person that's
Speaker 2: supposed to bring you there says.
Speaker 5: They gotta have you, na, like they can hold you
Speaker 5: said your skin color, He said, I've seen them kill Mexicans.
Speaker 2: That skin is darker than yards. That's what he said.
Speaker 2: You know that's prison politics.
Speaker 5: No, but l a prison politics run. It's sill streets.
Speaker 5: Not in the black community, no, no, no, all over
Speaker 5: the community. So that that fucked me up when I
Speaker 5: realized that for me, but paid it for. To get
Speaker 5: back to that, I actually auditioned for alcohol and I
Speaker 5: didn't get it. Wood Harris, who was the person I
Speaker 5: spoke to and paid for who played a z with Harris.
Speaker 5: He came to me and he and he tried to
Speaker 5: prep me for the audition role. And when he prepped
Speaker 5: me for the audition, I took it too serious. You know,
Speaker 5: I got I got a fucking real actor sitting there
Speaker 5: telling me what to do and what to do. And
Speaker 5: I tried to do it too. I actually I did
Speaker 5: eight movies. I never got any movie from an audition.
Speaker 1: If you got in front of the camera, I'm I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm whack on that. If you just say y'all want
Speaker 1: Fato in this movie, I'm great, great, I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 5: But I never read my lines like I read them,
Speaker 5: I memorize them because I'm God Body, like you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I memorize them and then I change them.
Speaker 5: Because the thing about God Body, if you if you
Speaker 5: really realize that after you master your one twenty, you
Speaker 5: got to master your plus degrees.
Speaker 2: So to me, that's what always with hip hop was.
Speaker 2: To me, it was a plus degree. It was is
Speaker 2: this five percent we went from.
Speaker 5: You just at first listen everything he wants to believe
Speaker 5: in every coach.
Speaker 1: You know, it's too it's too late for me to
Speaker 1: go emphatically non sight for.
Speaker 2: You can't do it. You can in today's Master.
Speaker 1: I'm from Godsville.
Speaker 5: They called your hood Guardsville, they call my hood City,
Speaker 5: they call my hood.
Speaker 7: Was God's veil left the gold right? Why not New
Speaker 7: York from Kendall, Guys, you wasn't in Kendo.
Speaker 2: One of the two niggas snuck down there?
Speaker 1: Man, they did, but Cypress Hills because they did it big.
Speaker 1: And I remember when I first saw them, I thought
Speaker 1: they was from New York. My nigga. They shot their
Speaker 1: video in.
Speaker 2: The New York Tube. In the video from the video was.
Speaker 1: That killing shot in front of the.
Speaker 6: Pollo and everything, and everybody was discussing that are they
Speaker 6: from New York?
Speaker 2: Are they from l A? Where then are they from?
Speaker 1: Them niggas is like like that, and they was in
Speaker 1: the wood Cypress Hill Kill in l A.
Speaker 2: God Queens no no no q tips in that video too.
Speaker 2: I think my.
Speaker 1: Nigga, I thought them niggas was from New York. But
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you I looked up to
Speaker 1: them because they was from New York. I'm just telling
Speaker 1: you I want to get high, so.
Speaker 2: Them niggas was right, and I don't even get hot.
Speaker 1: Niggas was rocking my nigga like like like, I ain't
Speaker 1: even gonna lie. To this day, I probably look up
Speaker 1: to Cypress Hill still because I just feel like they
Speaker 1: really put it down the way I like it to
Speaker 1: be put down.
Speaker 2: And still to this day, you gotta say you gonna.
Speaker 6: Rapper though, in terms of Latino rapper, yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 6: well Cypress Hills definitely for sure and punk, hands down punk.
Speaker 1: You know we're gonna end this on this well put
Speaker 1: the best Latino rapper ever lived. I'll tell you right
Speaker 1: the bottom line, I'll tell you nobody close real quick.
Speaker 2: When I when I heard when I heard him on Firewater.
Speaker 11: Firewater, it was Men of God Alma Gedding and Okay,
Speaker 11: that's the first came.
Speaker 2: I put that on a mixtape on my mixtape DJ
Speaker 2: in Miami. Nobody Miami, let me tell you, nobody had.
Speaker 6: Ever heard anything I put on a mixtape here Miami,
Speaker 6: and I was like, this dude is fucking killing it.
Speaker 2: I didn't know who he was. I just but then
Speaker 2: I knew. I knew he was Latino.
Speaker 1: I was like, we got one.
Speaker 2: That's it, Yeah, that's it because we be just so
Speaker 2: you know. At that same time, Big L is my favorite.
Speaker 1: Rapper Digging in the Crazy Crew. That's my brother too,
Speaker 1: that's my other favorite rapp Joe was a member of
Speaker 1: two crews with the greatest rappers of old that's my
Speaker 1: other favorite.
Speaker 6: That's where I'm like, this is it, yo, Yeah, we
Speaker 6: got him.
Speaker 2: I've really It's just almost like Chins.
Speaker 1: Chinks Angeles Evangelist, Like God, I know pun was great.
Speaker 5: I didn't know he was the greatest until like after
Speaker 5: after his funeral. I remember me standing there and crying
Speaker 5: at the and God bless the dead. Flex Flexts was
Speaker 5: the one who came and grabbed me because I didn't
Speaker 5: know what to do. Like I still start crying. My
Speaker 5: mother came to the funeral, keep it real without me,
Speaker 5: my mom said, my moms didn't wait for me to come.
Speaker 1: My mother win.
Speaker 2: Man from the boat dagger like crazy.
Speaker 1: It was so crazy because the people who came to
Speaker 1: that funeral, you know, it was like crazy man. Like
Speaker 1: it was like people that from our community that never
Speaker 1: even talked to us. Was like, you know, they were
Speaker 1: so proud they were showing up and you was like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's my school teacher.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there crying and I walked by my
Speaker 1: school teacher, come and grab me and like, yo, be strong.
Speaker 2: This this that like we touched so many niggas in
Speaker 2: that it was crazy.
Speaker 1: But it was like that too. I never forget too.
Speaker 1: I was at one point I was at points for
Speaker 1: funeral and I was crying and it was Joe Rue
Speaker 1: and I looked up and it was Joe ruh. He
Speaker 1: was there one dep too. He was like be strong, crack,
Speaker 1: don't worry, be strong, and that shit, that pun shit
Speaker 1: was serious, man.
Speaker 5: This is what I remember Flex grabbing me and just
Speaker 5: was like he's not suffering no more. And the crazy shit.
Speaker 5: I never seen Pun suffer. Like when Pun I never said,
Speaker 5: I know, were going too much, but we're gonna stop
Speaker 5: as soon. But when Pun used to have sleep appen,
Speaker 5: he like when he used to go like this, I
Speaker 5: used to think Pun was playing with me, Like God
Speaker 5: bless me because you know.
Speaker 2: Now I know, But back then, I used to be like, damn,
Speaker 2: my fucking stories is boring. People like Yo, we would
Speaker 2: be talking like it was good.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, let's just get it on, love glory.
Speaker 1: Pun loved Nori and Uh in a different way, in
Speaker 1: a special way, and them niggas used to hang out.
Speaker 1: They used to chill.
Speaker 2: And we still avoid Joe.
Speaker 5: That's what Joe said, because Joe was always militant, like
Speaker 5: he's always he's to get money, dude, Like that's all
Speaker 5: he thinks about me and Pun.
Speaker 2: We wanted to have fun. We was younger.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Joe's o G is a fact.
Speaker 5: So we used to be on the road everything like
Speaker 5: and Pun smoked the weed. He drank cars light, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2: Like you just started drinking, like really, like you just
Speaker 2: started leisurely drinking. Like he didn't kept that time so serious.
Speaker 2: He was like like every day, like.
Speaker 1: I told my son this to us, said, listen, bro,
Speaker 1: we was born with nothing, my nigga, and if we
Speaker 1: get the opportunity to go get it, let's not stop, nigga,
Speaker 1: Let's just go get it. And we can't make it.
Speaker 1: We gotta go get this fucking money, man, because all
Speaker 1: the times we dreamed about getting money, all the times
Speaker 1: all we wanted was money. Niggas wouldn't give us a
Speaker 1: fucking ice cream. You know, we're starving. We get niggas
Speaker 1: got a chip in for four chicken wings and French fries.
Speaker 1: Now niggas is throwing this money at us, Like what
Speaker 1: the fuck is we supposed to do? Let's go get
Speaker 1: this fucking money, and and and and that's that's that's
Speaker 1: That's what I'm about. Right now, I'm in the car
Speaker 1: my son wrap. I'm in the car with him. I
Speaker 1: bucked on them two minutes before I came here because
Speaker 1: he was like, yo, and Jinny ain't really doing it
Speaker 1: right there. So I'm like, nigga, you fucking crazy, Like
Speaker 1: I'll be wrapping in closets.
Speaker 2: We're gonna end on this. Back in the days, you
Speaker 2: couldn't send a nigga email.
Speaker 1: We had to run around with two inch tapes like this.
Speaker 2: That's it was like carrying a midget.
Speaker 1: Real, yo.
Speaker 2: Still, let me tell you something. I've never been to
Speaker 2: the and this is my engineer right here.
Speaker 5: Hazard it sounds a producer friend, but has I have
Speaker 5: never had a session with you unless I did four records.
Speaker 5: Keep it real, I'm gonna look away, so like I'm
Speaker 5: not giving you no sign and my line at least four.
Speaker 1: At least at.
Speaker 5: Least four because you know why, it's not because but
Speaker 5: back then, spending fifteen hundred dollars on a lockout or
Speaker 5: three thousand dollars on a lockout, I had to do, yo,
Speaker 5: one hundred honest shit, I'm.
Speaker 2: Keeping it real. CNN.
Speaker 5: War Report album was done over two years, but it
Speaker 5: was only like five to seven sessions because we recorded
Speaker 5: eight nine records.
Speaker 2: When we went in there and you know, tragedy put
Speaker 2: us on.
Speaker 1: You had this wave. Man, Your wave is like you know,
Speaker 1: special waves, but what it was niggas man. You could
Speaker 1: do whatever you wanted, No nor you You're funny nigga.
Speaker 1: And then it's like it's like it was like maybe
Speaker 1: he was bugging out, but to us. It was like
Speaker 1: flows we never heard right thigga about the thig I'm
Speaker 1: not what is this nigga saying this ship?
Speaker 2: You know what that came from?
Speaker 1: What was the joint you did? And we gotta gost you.
Speaker 1: What was the joint you did? I think it was
Speaker 1: in the Firm, know this, It.
Speaker 2: Was leaving, I'm leaving, lave you. I can get the
Speaker 2: story of that and then we break out.
Speaker 1: But listen, it goes that is that one, mat know this?
Speaker 2: That's the first, Yeah, because that's the first.
Speaker 1: And it was another one you did for Nods, right,
Speaker 1: was it Nods or Morb Deep?
Speaker 2: It was blood money, blood money, money money, the one
Speaker 2: when we did that during the Firm album, the Funny Ship.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you from the outside, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if you don't go ahead tell me
Speaker 1: you was like the illis nigga right there, like like
Speaker 1: right there when they snatched you up because it was
Speaker 1: a big move for you.
Speaker 5: And now I had just shot niggas in the projects too,
Speaker 5: and they was like and I kept hanging out there.
Speaker 2: They was like, what this niggas from Left Brack and
Speaker 2: Left Brack left.
Speaker 5: Minutes so fall and I kept hanging out and I
Speaker 5: gotta I gotta give the love the jungle. Jungle was
Speaker 5: the dude like. Jungle was like, we're fucking want him,
Speaker 5: we want to shoot you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But what I'm saying is said the end.
Speaker 1: When I heard they recruited you and you was just like,
Speaker 1: it was so ill.
Speaker 2: I was just like, and you know, and you know
Speaker 2: from them.
Speaker 5: My very first feature, My very first feature after that
Speaker 5: was the Pun Record, My very first feature after that,
Speaker 5: I meant you Pun.
Speaker 2: You know Pun's first words he had said to me?
Speaker 1: What he said?
Speaker 2: He said?
Speaker 5: Because I was it was in the session. The first
Speaker 5: is the first words you ever said to me? You said,
Speaker 5: you said, this is the first words you.
Speaker 2: Ever said to me. You said, y'all cnn huh.
Speaker 5: He walked this unique studio, Unique studios, nigga walks in whoa,
Speaker 5: and then Pun was it.
Speaker 2: He goes, y'all seeing that, I'm like, he said, which
Speaker 2: one of your niggas got shot?
Speaker 5: And then Paul raised his hand and then y'all start
Speaker 5: keep hearing gunshot rooms and ship.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is very awkward.
Speaker 5: Pom shows his ship then and then he goes, which
Speaker 5: one of y'alls Puerto Rican and I raised my hand
Speaker 5: and this is this is one hundred percent facts.
Speaker 2: I was just like, because I never met these niggas.
Speaker 2: I love this nigga, but I don't want him to
Speaker 2: think I'm a sucker.
Speaker 5: He just walked in my studio sessionly Plu told you
Speaker 5: to walk over right, Buck Wilder is doing the beat
Speaker 5: maybe be buck Wow, and.
Speaker 2: Then and goes to me.
Speaker 5: He goes, yo, you Puerto Rican and yeah, he goes,
Speaker 5: so wipe the ice grilled off, Bapa.
Speaker 2: Because we're gonna be friends. And from that moment, Yo,
Speaker 2: the nigga made me laugh. I was racist from that
Speaker 2: moment and it was some of the best people I
Speaker 2: ever met. Man, Joe, I really appreciate you. You have
Speaker 2: never left me. You know You've always been there for me.
Speaker 1: I want to guard ray Kwan, but just his birthday
Speaker 1: is his birthday, Happy birthday, my brother. But Ray Kwan
Speaker 1: the shelf before you leave, telling me friends top three
Speaker 1: friends and him. You don't know. They jerked me, so
Speaker 1: I have he called me first, I was out of town.
Speaker 1: I said, nah, go get him, and I never got him.
Speaker 2: But I really need to have one up on you.
Speaker 1: You got, I said, you he gonna give me one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but for now, can I say something?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So I'm an underground wrapper. I'm digging in the crates.
Speaker 1: I'm like on my first second album. I'm on my
Speaker 1: first album. I came out the same time as Wu
Speaker 1: Tang and I remember I was getting like three hundred
Speaker 1: the show. I ain't knowing how they made money because
Speaker 1: it was fifteen niggas for three hundred dollars. I'm sure
Speaker 1: Ray got some stars, right, I'm like, damn, I start
Speaker 1: counting thirteen niggas and shit, you niggas must have got
Speaker 1: fifteen dollars, right, Shit fucked up? Right? And then I
Speaker 1: remember Woo just super blue and I wasn't big yet,
Speaker 1: And I remember I would any time I would call
Speaker 1: Ray corner and this nigga's like four platinum, I'd be like, yo, Reay,
Speaker 1: I need you on the so on the night like
Speaker 1: five water. Ten minutes later that nigga was in there.
Speaker 1: No funny Style kept the ten thousand with me. I
Speaker 1: remember one time I was in Ray. Don't even remember
Speaker 1: this yet, y'all don't remember this, but I was in
Speaker 1: Staatenla and I the show.
Speaker 2: I remember you had a studios that now we had
Speaker 2: the studio.
Speaker 1: But no one time I had a show in the
Speaker 1: hood early on and I got into some ship with
Speaker 1: the with with the Staten Island niggas like it was
Speaker 1: about to pop off crazy like yo, fuck y'all talking
Speaker 1: about nigga nigga niggas ready to pop off, and the
Speaker 1: guard Ray Kwan, was like, Yo, this is my motherfucking
Speaker 1: brother man. That ship ain't going down here. Shut that shit.
Speaker 1: He talking that woo change ship niggas calmed down, Fuck
Speaker 1: that doll. That ship ain't going down here, nigga, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: so like Nori, I'm gonna say top five because I
Speaker 1: got friends. You know what I'm saying. But I got
Speaker 1: you top five brothers, my brothers that I love. There's
Speaker 1: always kept it real with me. Top five friends. You
Speaker 1: and Ray Corners in my top five friends in my
Speaker 1: brother you know what I mean, Like not love you,
Speaker 1: not rappers, nothing to do with that, just like you're
Speaker 1: my brothers. You could call me at any time, Ray
Speaker 1: call me at any time. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: If we never wrapped and we knew each other from
Speaker 1: the block, we would still be brothers. So you know
Speaker 1: Ray corners in that category. And trust me, it ain't
Speaker 1: too many niggas in that category.
Speaker 2: Not for me neither, not for me neither. Thank you, man.
Speaker 2: I always count on you. Man. I want to say
Speaker 2: one more story.
Speaker 1: I like your T shirt. Oh yeah, I like it
Speaker 1: a lot. I like it.
Speaker 2: This is hip hop less check.
Speaker 1: Try to.
Speaker 2: Hold on there.
Speaker 5: You've never seen those those nay listen.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter because he'll never give me his nigger connect.
Speaker 2: You don't give me everything else in the world, but
Speaker 2: the sneaker connect doesn't happen. Fat yo. Thank you for dreaming. Man.
Speaker 2: You interview hold on yeah, yeah, don't want an.
Speaker 1: Interview, Let me do that.
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