WEBVTT - #Throwback Episode - w/ Fat Joe | (Ep. 1) 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:03.240 Yeah, what's something y'all? What's going on? 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:04.760 But the Dream Ray. 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:09.320 He's a legendary Queen's rapper, Hang Haanks Agreed is your 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:09.960 boy in OI? 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:13.280 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up is DJ 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:14.000 E f N? 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:16.520 Together they drink it up with some of the biggest 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.280 players in music and sports? 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:18.919 You know what I mean? 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.800 This is drinks Champa with every day is New Year's Eve? 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.040 Hanghank Segree is your boy in O? 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:28.880 What up? 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.279 Is DJ e f N? And this is drinks Ray? 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:38.360 Every day is New Year? What the hell you're not 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:38.800 saying that? 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.120 I mean, every day is New Year's or your birthday 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:46.559 or your birthday or your birthday. And I got we 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.360 got our first hip hop legendary guests, our. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.120 First first guest because we had a basketball player. 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.800 But now we got the two legends in a row, 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:59.000 two legends, and we weren't doing legends. No, come on here, no, no, no, 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:03.560 you gotta pay you before you get to drink cham podcast. Okay, 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:04.319 who do we having? 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:12.240 The building? Fact? Joe? Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up, y'all? 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:13.040 What's going on? 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:13.520 Brothers? 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:14.399 What's going on? 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:15.160 What's going on? 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.440 Brother Last night, I got a chance to be in 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:24.120 your studio session and you and Remy Ma actually done 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:24.880 an album. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.760 Oh dad, yeah, crazy though. 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:29.720 No, I'm good. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:34.959 Nah, you're humble. I don't have to be humble for you. 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:39.039 I'm hold up people like us. We weren't there. So 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:41.319 when you say together, what do you mean by that? 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.160 It's a complete album. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:45.880 Together or is it young executive produce? 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.200 Her, me and her back and forth? 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:49.600 Wow? 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:51.240 Shit crazy. 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.840 I was amazed, you know what I'm saying, because I 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.000 heard Remy's mixtape. 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:56.400 I didn't. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.640 I didn't think that was Remy Ma. Like what I 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.960 mean by that is I didn't. I didn't think she 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.360 felt comfortable with the mixtape. Like you know what I'm saying. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:10.880 But she came over from jail six years, right, and 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:14.280 everybody in they money, everybody and their mother ran at her. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:18.200 And you know, she has certain loyalties to, like certain 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:22.959 producers that she been fucking with for years, so everybody 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.000 was running at her, and she was just like all right, ay, 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.720 so this is I don't think she really even knew 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.120 what was hot. So what was crazy was? You know, 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.800 we all know it's wrapping is like riding a bike, 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.079 like you know, we know she nice and ship. She 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:40.840 just got to get in pocket and make and be produced. Right, 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.359 so you know that mixtape? 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:44.720 Let me talk right there. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.000 Do you feel like you kind of even though you 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.440 probably didn't touch no buttons, but you felt you felt. 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.400 Like you produced this though, because. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.799 It's like it's like it's like if lean Back had babies. 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.960 That's what I felt like. It was a it was 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.640 but you know how perfect that record is, like how. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:07.560 It hit the moment. 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.480 I'm not just New York City, but that's what the 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.640 whole album felt like. It felt like, Yeah, like so 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.040 I kind of felt like you produced it, although. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.000 I produced it. It's a whole ship. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.360 It's hard and she sounds. 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.880 So what happened was I was on the couch when 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.840 she gave me the go ahead. You know, usually how 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:26.320 did this happen? 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:27.240 How did the talk happen? 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.640 Y'all doing well? Me and her? We was just you know, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.040 before she even came out, we talked on the phone. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:35.560 We squashed whatever beef we had or whatever the case 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.560 may be. I never really had beef for Remy. And 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:44.520 then so when she came home, we started going to dinner, lunch, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.200 like she would just call me up, yo, where you 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.839 at I'm like, I'm in the Bronx, should come over 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.080 eat and we just brother and sister shit. And then 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.920 she told me. She was like yo, she was like, 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:58.680 you ready to get it in And I was like, yo, 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.560 I've been waiting. I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.480 not trying to push you. I saw what I don't know. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.200 Remy's bugged out. So I don't want this podcast how 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:12.440 to hear this and get mad at me. But you know, 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.600 like I saw how niggas was pulling her when she 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.520 first came home, Like niggas. You know, two days after 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:21.400 she come on for six years, Swiss Beats got a 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:24.080 record with her. This when now everybody was tugging on her. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.160 She came home like the female Tupac. Let's just keep 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.200 it ready, yeah, like the female Tupaca. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:32.599 So I'm sitting back like I know what's best, but 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:34.360 you know, it's nothing I could do. 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.720 Let her do what she gotta do, do what. 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.880 She gotta do. So as soon as she told me, 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.200 I was like, yo, like I mean, it's a no brainer. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.400 Like I knew that was supposed to happen a long time. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.200 Ago, but it was presented to you as a whole 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:49.119 project at first, or just happened. 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:53.560 What she said. We did the BX Fight Club, so 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.159 that's the that's the only time I performed it Remy 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.839 in all those years. So they had me I did. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:03.160 I did a favorite for holding them and I. 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:10.719 Brought which that's crazy. But b X hole over for 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:18.760 the strip, so I came out. We had so. 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:19.720 I had to. 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.719 So I went over there and I did it. 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:25.680 The brons was in there deep, and I brought out 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:31.120 Remy as a surprise, and and you know, just the 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.800 smiles and people's eyes and what I always say is 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:39.320 people like Fat Joe a lot and people like Remy 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:44.480 Ma a lot. They love to get Fat Joe and Remy. 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:47.240 So it was just different. Like I'm looking at the crowd, 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.760 she's rocking, I'm looking at her. So afterwards, when I 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:56.400 walk into the car, She's like, yo, man, it is different. Man, 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.200 Like these these people go they love to see me 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.360 with you was differ, friends, y'all telling you I've been 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.840 performing everywhere. It's different when I'm staying with you. I said, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.279 so what are you saying? You know you want me 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.240 to get to it. She's like all right. So then 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:14.400 I sat on the couch, and you know it had 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.479 to be perfect, like I view us and I don't 0:06:17.480 --> 0:06:21.039 want niggas to kill me, but like a jay Z 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:25.599 Kanye West, like a Snoop Dog Doctor Dre, like a 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:28.159 you know, you got to realize the last record we 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:30.760 put out wear forty seven weeks number one. 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:35.320 Which was lean Back, so the only way everybody makes 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:39.719 a noise from goddamn forgot. 0:06:43.320 --> 0:06:46.200 So you know that ship was like that ship was 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.520 like number one record for ninety years and nine months. Remember, 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:56.000 and the nigga who beat us was floor Rider Low 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:57.200 like he beats everybody. 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:58.280 Yeah, he beat me. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:01.440 Like we almost had to song of the decade Roland 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.000 so that so you know, when when I came to 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.080 fuck with this, I was like, all this ship gott 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.040 to be incredible. She knew that too. So I sat 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.680 on the couch and usually take me a month. It 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.320 took me like nine months. And I ain't gonna lie, 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.200 you know, you know me and you my brother, and 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.760 he called me the Puerto Rican puff Daddy. This nigga's 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:33.920 crazy for years. So I actually was confused. So this 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:38.880 was the first time in my life that I made 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:41.840 a project that I was actually challenged, like I was 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.560 like questioning myself because I wanted it to be so 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.360 perfect that I was like, oh, ship, So the problem 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.040 is we come from a different era, right, and we 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.360 got fed Joe remy fans. But yeah, instead, we want 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.960 to make music that's relevant with these young niggas too, 0:07:59.360 --> 0:08:03.000 but not sound crazy, like like not do to the 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.760 picking my bookers, picking my bookers. We don't want to 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.520 do that, ship, right, but we want to do music 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:09.680 that the DJ. 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:15.120 Right now. 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.640 It feels like Joe Crack ribby Ma, but we could 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:24.000 turn that bitch up and fucking Rolex ko D right now. 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:29.200 That's hard, like really hard. Like I'm telling you I 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:32.960 know everything about music, Like I mean like I don't 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.400 even know. I don't know how to explain it to 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:36.560 you in any other way. 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:37.880 It's like. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.480 Call you give me some wine. So listen, the niggas 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.560 turn around, nigau. So the niggas turned around. It was 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:53.400 hard to do, so it's almost I had to become 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.520 a chemist. So not only was I on the couch, 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:01.040 I was in all the clubs like day and night, 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:05.400 day and night while I was doing it. So I 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:10.560 went to Toronto for a weekend and went to twenty 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.200 clubs and sat there and most of the ship they 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.240 was playing. I didn't even know it. I went to 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:19.960 Washington Heights, set in every club every night to see 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:23.480 what they doing, sushi mambo. I went to the Brooklyn, 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.160 to Queens, to the strip clubs, to the everywhere to 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.000 hear what the fuck was going on? 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:33.120 Now in New York City is only in Queens. Throw 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:34.640 it out there, continue the story, sir. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:40.920 Well, I was in Georgia's diner last week and I 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:47.320 was looking for you on So I'm chilling right. So 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.840 the long story short, I wanted it to be perfect. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.720 I still wanted to be perfect, and it was a 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.840 hard thing to do. So you know the fact with Remy, 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.440 you know, even Pat Poos he turned around and he 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.400 was like, yo, Joe, he was like, you know, he said, 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:09.280 So I'm telling Remy, yo, come to Miami, come to 0:10:09.320 --> 0:10:12.040 the studio, come on, let's rock out. So she got 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.440 a husband. Now she ain't my little sister, you know 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.640 back of the tall bus. She could just leave. She 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:21.800 got a fucking family, a husband. So I don't know 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:23.400 what's going on. So I got to go to New 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.440 York and turn up with her and be like, all right, 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:30.000 I rented the studio. Let's go, let's lock in, come 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.280 down right. So by the second day, the nigga Pat 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.840 Woo said, Yo, Joe, you know what I said? What 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.640 he said, man, my bag? I said what you mean 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:41.760 he said, cause you know it's my wife and she's 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.800 telling me she got to go to Miami and stay 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.160 for two weeks or three weeks with Joe. I'm like, fuck, 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:56.280 that sound like right? So no, no so, but he 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:58.600 was like, Yo, I've been in here with you two days. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.640 He's like the shit you bring out of her the ship. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.040 Y'all niggas get from each other. I get it. Y'all 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.120 gotta be with each other. The chemistry is crazy. Y'all 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.080 gotta be with each other. Y'all gotta turn up with 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.400 each other. So you know, it was crazy, and you 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.160 know we did. We did her half in New York 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.800 and you know, we had Fred the Garson in the 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.280 studio every day. You know, Pat Poost was chilling. She 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.600 was there, so we I just felt like we was 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.320 just real well grounded with the musically. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.760 The whole project of Dominantly in New York City. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:33.960 Nah. I produced it in Miami and then I went 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.959 up to New York to do Remy's half in New York. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.360 Wait, wait, but from that research that you did when 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.280 you was going to the different clubs and what what 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:42.160 did you get out of that? 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:46.880 Did you get? I got what I got, Yes, I did. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:51.640 I got a lot of literate shit of the universe 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.160 of what's going on? What did that bring to the 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.360 project that brought the single Okay singles call all the 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.320 way up? So what happened was I. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:02.880 Was, can I say who is featuring or yeah, keep 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:07.080 featuring in French Montana. My single off of Drunk Uncle 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.120 is also featuring in French Montana. So New York is 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.040 just keep it in New York right now, New York 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:19.880 being ourselves that shout the audience Come On. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.760 Is produced by exclusive young up and coming producer out 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.120 here in Miami. The Niggas Incredible, He's the future and 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:33.960 also Infrared wrote the hook. So Infrared, you know that's 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:34.720 my brother, the. 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.880 Drunkest man and the drunk the drunkest guy in America. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.680 He's any drunk nigga in the world. 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.280 This is chance, you know. 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.680 I love him. So I was in Washington Heights and 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:47.840 I was just studying the crowd. See when I go 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:51.280 to clubs. It's like being in college. I watched to 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.720 see what the bitches like. I see what the niggas like. 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.400 I see what how niggas feel, the drug dealing nigga, 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:00.280 that broke nigga. I'm just watching everything. So I'm sitting there. 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:02.520 You might be thinking, Yo, this nigga, Joe Krack is 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:07.200 either full of himself or you know he's arrogant or 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.000 what the fuck is wrong with him? 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.319 But I'm sitting then. 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:16.520 I'm studying everything, every movement popping, so that when I 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.920 go in the studio, That's how I created Making Ring, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.440 That's how I created Lean Back and all my hates 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.600 is like, I study it and then when I get 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.600 in the lab, I could just see the whole is 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.040 like I'm in the club, so I know what it is. 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:31.000 And I realized that these niggas want to say I'm 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.760 all the way up. Nothing cal stopped me. I'm all 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:37.800 the way up. That's what they want to say standing 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:42.560 on a couch at a club. So shit, incredible, man. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.640 Now what you call project is Joe remy mom. 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:50.920 Well, we're gonna debut the title right now, and I 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:54.680 hope niggas don't jack us should I debut it now? 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.319 I think I heard that. I mean your friend for 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:58.479 twenty years. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.200 The name of the album is called plot I So Plombo. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.480 That's the ship, right, Okay, okay, okay. 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.560 So the name of the album is called plot So Plumber. 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.560 It's hard. Should be the. 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:15.840 Money your bullets. You know what I'm saying. However you 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.880 want it, you know what I'm saying. We ain't got 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.960 a problem paying. But if you front, you know what's coming. 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:25.600 But it's not a group name though. No, don't don't do. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.360 Don't do the Fat Joe featuring Remy or Remy feature 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.840 and it's a brotherly love niggas both of us. 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.920 Now you're thinking about album independent, We are independent. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:40.480 Everything I put out the last nine years been independent. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:42.720 Mega Rain went number three in the country. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.640 And Talk About Michael. 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.680 Went number three, depended another round number three. Independent. Everything 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.520 I do. I've been in the independent. 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:52.880 All right, you off snapchat duties now because I need 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:59.920 you with the with the with the whistle. Good guyside 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:00.880 got that's my guy. 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:04.240 It's coming right now, that's. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:18.640 Right now, watching nor he's a bully. He's on the 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.480 littlest guy here. Hey, this is my guy, right here. 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.400 Listen, you have duty when you're down with our cow, 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:28.440 whether you're small, big, everybody has. 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:30.600 You know what I'm saying. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.960 The vibe of your crew. I love how everybody's team spirited. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:37.600 But you've always maintained that whether you was fucking with 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.960 niggas from the Bronze Queens wherever. You know, you such 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:44.800 a real guy, such down to earth that you know 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.840 niggas clean to you and they love you. So everybody 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.920 play their position, you know what I'm saying, And that's 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.080 what it is. You know, with me, people don't realize. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.360 You know, I was always number two and then was 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.240 forced to go number one. So now how I could 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.480 explain that to you? When when I came up in 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:07.520 the streets, my god, Tony Montana, he was number one 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:09.240 Terry Squad. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:10.440 I always sees just the piece. 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.520 So Joe Krack was vice president type ship. You know, 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.440 he was the live wire. And I come up in 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:20.080 there after he do some crazy ship clean it up right, 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.880 So then you know, and then when he passed, my 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.600 brother was number one, and I always maintained number two. 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.960 So I always was cool being number two. So then 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.720 when I started rapping and this fat Joe and then 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.360 I bring Pun in the game, and I realized that 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.240 Pun is a hundred times better than me. 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.600 I fell right into number two. I was like, Yo, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:42.800 let's hope, I'll hold the door for this thick. I 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.920 ain't ask you something that I always wondered. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:48.080 So you met me through Pun, yes, sir, so so 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:51.680 Pun had remy she is big puns artist. 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.880 Because I don't remember Pun, I don't number Pun. 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.160 I was so jealous. God, I was so jealous because 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:01.160 it wasn't too many crews where you had a nigga 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.159 as nice at Pun and then you had a bitch 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:06.760 that was like the nicest bitch in the game. So 0:17:06.960 --> 0:17:08.520 he was like, yo, twin, I want you to hear 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.960 this girl I signed, and I'm like, all right, so 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:12.919 I see if she had the level vest I can 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:17.280 never forget that ship. And then she just went off 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.840 for like ten minutes streets and that's what she was saying, 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.440 I shoot the air bubba, welch, you're sneakers. I'm funks. 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.480 She was just going. I was like, so jealous, man. 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.359 I was sitting there like, oh my god, why my 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.520 head was saying why I didn't find her? Why I 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:37.359 didn't find it? So then after she rocks Punt history 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.000 zual Twin. You know she you artist Twin, Like you 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.600 know she signed to me, but we signed to you label. 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.879 It was Terror Squad the whole time he discovered her 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.680 from he say, Yo. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:50.359 He's signed it. 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.879 He just covering up. But he's like you like Yo, 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.440 Joe was coming to you anyway, nigga. But I'm just 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:57.359 saying I want to say to my artist. I'm like, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:02.399 my nigga, thank God, and uh, you know what. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.359 You did to deal with her after Pun passed or nah. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:10.520 Na Poem was alive. Wow, we did the deal with her. 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.800 But while Poem was alive, you know Pun, you know Pun. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.000 You know what I'm saying, most loyal, realist nigga in 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.160 the world. We don't just say that because he's dead 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:22.400 because some niggas dad piece of ship. You know. Puem 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.200 was one of the most loyalist niggas in the world. 0:18:25.480 --> 0:18:28.359 But most fun I mean the way I say it 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.760 is like, you know, I was the youngest kid in 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.120 my house. You know what I'm saying. I never had 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.320 a younger brother, So Poem was like the young brother 0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.320 I never had, and I was like the big brother 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:43.840 he never had. And immediately. You know what I'm saying, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:48.560 It's almost like a relationship, you know, in order to 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.520 make a marriage last, It's like you really got to 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:56.639 sign it mentally and heartwise. You gotta really say, no 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.240 matter what happens, I want to stay with this woman 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:01.320 for the rest of my life. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:08.160 Goddamn, cut your hands to that, exam. I'm just saying, 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:10.040 let's not give. 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:15.680 It's just like y'all, nobody's stopping this ship, right, And 0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.879 it's the same thing with like you know, with me 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:21.480 and pun. You know, after I heard him round for 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.960 the first time, he sat in my car and he 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:27.600 immediately I don't know how and why, but he was 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:31.680 telling me ship. I wouldn't tell Nori now about myself, 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.560 and that's my brother, Like I could go to war 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.160 with norriy Like, I don't really kill for Norri, He'll 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:38.879 kill for me. I would not tell him some personal 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:41.520 shit in my family growing up and all that. So 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:44.280 five minutes later, I'm riding with the nigga. This niggas 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.200 telling me the deepest ship I ever heard of the 0:19:46.520 --> 0:19:48.640 and I'm sitting there with him. I'm thinking to myself, 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.680 you know, I'm a street nigga, I'm like, why is 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.080 this nigga telling me all this ship? Right? 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:54.080 So I'm sitting there like this. 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.520 So I knew his life story the first twenty minutes 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:00.399 after I left him. I met him already. They knew it. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:01.160 But let everybody. 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:02.639 Let me ask you something. Because we were in and 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:07.439 there like like like Tata right. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:10.760 Jay Z's boy had brung me beyond that right, and 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:15.600 I had to join. And he said, Yo, she wants to. 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:16.479 Do this record. 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:21.399 She wants to do it like barbatosh and listen. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.040 Check check what I said. Listen. 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:25.360 But she wonted fifteen bands. I had a million dollar 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:29.080 budget at the time. I said no, right, I said no, 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:30.760 I passed on that. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.440 Did you know the minute you met pun that this 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:34.359 was the next dude? 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:40.000 Or was it instant or like I'm gonna be honest. 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:46.200 I'm gonna be honest with you. I know music probably 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.640 more than anybody. It's just the truth. If this industry 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:52.280 wasn't scared of me for being such a gangster nigga. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:54.320 I would be the president of everything. 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.640 Nobody really know more than me. Every time they turn 0:20:57.680 --> 0:21:00.159 around and give a nigga a new job, they I 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.480 put it on blast the minute they gave Joey Ai 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.919 president of in this go. He picked the phone up, 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.240 call me and say, I learned everything from you, my brother. Please, 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:09.960 you don't even understand everything. I know. It's because of 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:14.080 you everything I like. Niggas get presidents and they studied 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.720 you my whole life. You are the smartest nigger in 0:21:17.000 --> 0:21:19.040 but they scared of me, so they won't give me 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.080 that position. Don't know why, because I'm the nicest nigger 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.600 in the world. That's a fact, that's right. So when 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.399 I met pun and the niggas started rapping, so all right, 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.840 the scene is I told her a million times. I 0:21:30.880 --> 0:21:32.560 don't want to tell shit on your shit that I 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:34.680 told everybody by but I'm gonna just say it because 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:38.320 we family, So I go. You know, I was one 0:21:38.359 --> 0:21:40.600 of the only rap him being another one too, so 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:43.159 I can't stunt on him. But I'm one of the 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:48.800 only rappers that actually was rich, actually was gold already 0:21:49.520 --> 0:21:50.960 and was still in my hood. 0:21:51.040 --> 0:21:52.680 Like I live in Apartment five E. 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:56.399 Like literally, hold on, everybody better make noise for this. 0:21:56.840 --> 0:22:03.680 I am also from Apartment five E, so you know 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:04.439 what's crazy. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.080 I studied hip hop. Jay Z was also from Apartment 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:09.920 five what what does that mean? 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:14.320 In a project we gotta bring He's from Miami, now 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:16.359 I know what literally what that means. 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:18.280 I'm saying, is there a hidden meaning behind him? No, 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:22.120 we're gonna We're gonna ask him. You know you're gonna ask. 0:22:26.000 --> 0:22:27.880 Let me also make some noise from my brother Kate. 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.399 You know ray Kun's whether he'd be once who will. 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:31.560 Take heavy birthday? 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:32.760 Happy birthday? 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:35.919 He said, I don't see the God. Okay, okay, God. 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:36.240 Excuse me. 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:38.359 Somebody gave that man a drink. Somebody get that man 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:41.719 to drink. We ain't got no brown, We ain't got 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:42.120 no brown. 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:44.840 Okay, okay, I know you called me and I tell 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.600 you I had it, but nobody never gave me my sneakers, 0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:52.159 my purple me. Third, wait, hold on, we got to 0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:56.560 hear call me. I'm gonna pick it up. I could 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:58.159 I still get him on a gone. 0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:02.480 They should listen. He's Joe. Let's go straight. I'm glad 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:07.040 you brung it to him. Are you the sneaker king? 0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:14.960 And if you are, you bve college because I felt. 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:18.280 Like you and Golly can fuck with me. 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:20.040 Okay, I needn't understand that. 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.119 Let's be clear, but you put him on because I 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.880 put him onto the sneaky game. You know, he's my brother. 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:30.639 He's coming up under the the culture. He's just Callen 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.040 is like a Fat Joe on steroids, you know what 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:34.520 I'm saying. 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:36.800 So he's been with teroids. 0:23:37.000 --> 0:23:42.360 Yeah, he's on extra drawn that when I when I went, 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.720 when I went and got him his record deal at Cotch. 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:48.920 I started at Relativity with Alan Grumblack, so we didn't 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:51.240 really even have no music or nothing like that. So 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.840 when Callen kept bothering me like, yo, I want to 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.000 do this album. I want to do this album, I said, 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.920 fucking nigga, Let's go to New York, right. So we 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.400 went up in there and the first thing I told 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:05.600 Alan Grumbler, I said, you don't understand this nigga is incredible. 0:24:06.760 --> 0:24:10.359 He's a hip maker and he's Fat Joe on ship. 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:15.760 So Alan, of course, but Alan grum Black don't know that. 0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:19.200 That Alan grum Black. He just went on for what 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:23.800 I told, Okay like it was. He just went on 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:26.680 for me, hyping him up, telling him like he wanted 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.240 to be in business with Fat Joe so much that 0:24:29.480 --> 0:24:31.239 he turned around and was like, Yo, this nigga Joe 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.960 never lied to me and it was the best thing 0:24:34.040 --> 0:24:37.840 he ever did in his life. Because Alan gru black pink, 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:41.240 I never got royal. 0:24:42.400 --> 0:24:42.840 I know that. 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:44.159 I don't know the answer. 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:47.400 Nobody gets on He is a good guy, a little 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.840 bit one of the best I never met. 0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.320 Yeah, you know, nobody gets worried he's we didn't deserve it. 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:55.520 We got to start a royalty committee. 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:57.760 We got to start something. So now let's get back 0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.639 to the sneak of that. Because I feel like, I 0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:04.000 feel like you're my brother, right you've always been. If 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.840 I have to say, one of the best people I 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:07.560 ever met in my. 0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:11.200 Life that Joe is there, smart guy? Now what's that? 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:19.240 I feel like, whatever connect you ever had, I'm always 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:26.320 liberty at liberty to that except your sneaker connects never 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:33.160 expand for a missile. He'll give you his oozy man yo. 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.480 But Yo, every time you get a pair of I 0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:38.840 just always watch his feet. I'm like, he's advanced. You 0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.240 have Michael Jordan's number one speed out? Is this what happens? 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.840 I don't have Michael Jordan's number on speed down? 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.560 But because I feel like you be cheating, you got 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.480 your connect is cheating connect. It's a Cheico. It is 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.000 a cheat, Chico is. 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:54.440 But I deserve it because I've been committed to this 0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:57.960 ship forever. Before it was cool to be a sneak ahead, 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:00.879 I was a sneakerhead, you know what I'm saying. So 0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:02.119 they know my dedications. 0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.959 I'm not a sneaker had like you. I gotta give 0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:05.600 it to college. 0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:10.200 You call it Clark can't. Clark is a guy named 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.000 mayor mayors. 0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.720 Don't know, hasn't made my mathematics yet. He's my guy. 0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:20.760 A god, you know, he's a god. 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:22.679 He has his own sneaker at Nike. Correct. 0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:25.399 Yeah, I think so, he has a couple. He's uh, 0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:27.959 you know, he put it down legends. 0:26:28.080 --> 0:26:30.239 Now somebody offered you their own sneaker. I know, did 0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.240 did you have like a Stephan Marberry sneaky that? 0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.840 Yeah, we did one for the community, very cheap. You know, 0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:35.720 give it to the kid. 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:38.159 But now Kanye is killing him. If you would have 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.000 your own sneaker, line like, what would you do over? 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.760 It would be the hottest ship and what but what 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:45.800 would you aspire to be? 0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:47.000 Who would you pick? 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:51.600 I mean, I mean I wouldn't say it because. 0:26:52.040 --> 0:27:00.840 Competitive very smart man. You're always doing his thinker can, 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:01.760 He'll tell me everything. 0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:14.399 So now let's just let's just rewind on everything. Probably 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:18.000 the most fun I ever had traveling was when Triz 0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:18.600 was hot. 0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:26.440 Everybody's getting scared. It's pretty great. 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:30.480 Yeah, everybody's everybody's scared of days. 0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:32.600 What's awesome. 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:34.359 I can't talk about it. 0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:36.800 I didn't say you talk about it. I didn't even 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:41.040 ask a question. It was just but Tris is played out? 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:42.000 Is that bad? 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:44.440 Or is that good for the community? What do you 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:45.840 means is played out? 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.520 People don't want to trust good for the community, I believe. 0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.840 So everybody makes a noise when Tris being dead. I'm 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.240 gonna tell you when I canna see you, I'll tell 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:58.919 you what I stopped my personal story. 0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:04.280 Right, I had two. I always had two. Right, that 0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:08.119 was cool. But then one day I had three. Right, 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:12.720 So I was like yo, I bus like five nuts 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.720 and they still wanted more. I felt defeated. 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:18.520 Oh you felt defeated. 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:19.440 I felt defeated. 0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:21.040 All right, Well what's different? Well? 0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.359 You confusing both? 0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:27.119 Okay, the tris means like niggas running the train on 0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:31.800 a bit like one. Nags is always your style, okay, 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.159 naj is always your style and you're tested as a 0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.879 man because one thing I noticed about women is that 0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:42.520 they can never have enough. You can never have enough, 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:45.320 you can never like. They can never really tell you 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.440 realistically and from the bottom of their heart. Yo, I'm tired. 0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:54.360 I quit. They canna keep going forever a couple. 0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.560 Atfully, but that day I like the man. 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.640 They go from it. They go from like Yo, they 0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.880 want to get please. Actually, na, Now this ship has worked. 0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.280 This niggas fucking me seven hours. I'm working like I 0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:15.720 need a salary for this ship right here. Trez is 0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.640 the trains Minas is different thing. 0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.320 It's always a beautiful I'm gonna give you a story 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.040 one time. I never put this out this footage. I 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:25.120 actually have it on footage. 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:26.120 One percent. 0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:31.320 Jesus Tony Sunshine, Oh my big Pun, this is how, 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:32.880 this is how, this is how you know Big Pun 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:36.840 was one of the greatest individuals in life. Puff Daddy 0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.440 pays me for a little Jerome. You remember a little 0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:42.640 Jerome back in the days. Well, little Jerome had did 0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.720 a blood money beat. So puff Dad he never pays good, 0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.160 but he pays it, never pays good, but he pays. 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:51.080 It's great. Pup pitsed me says Yo, No, I need 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:52.160 you to do this. Put the room. 0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:54.360 So I'm like all right, cool, but like it's all 0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:55.640 one fee because you know, I was like, all right, 0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:57.760 I'll do that for the song and then for the video. 0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:00.600 No, it's not how, it's how puff. 0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:00.920 Daddy, bro. 0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:05.920 It's on one feet like a black jew. You gotta 0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:09.040 do it. You gotta do it because it's fuff daddy. 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:12.480 And front you want to go to his house for 0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:12.960 New York. 0:30:13.960 --> 0:30:16.800 That makes up for every dance, for everything. So Papa 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:18.400 it's me and goes all right. So now I'm shooting 0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:21.160 a little bit your own video. This is the carbet. 0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:23.920 You remember the car I remember the car So Pun 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.840 got puffed at the carbet. So Pun says Yo, cool Nory, 0:30:28.920 --> 0:30:32.480 Let's tell Nori to come over here. So now Pun 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.320 got fucked up earlier. Today, Papa is like, make sure 0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:37.400 you're on time, please, Norri. 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.000 We don't have this kid, don't got a budget. Pun 0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:43.040 makes Puff call me and goes, Yo, come over to 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:43.440 the carpet. 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:44.320 Nigga, what you at you? 0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:44.480 Nor? 0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.520 I said, you sure? You want me to leave your video? 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.320 Then Papa's like, Pun with the nigga shooting my video? 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.320 We just we just told him to leave. So I said, 0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.960 your pun come over here. Pun comes over here. He 0:30:56.120 --> 0:31:01.400 brings Tony Sunshine and I forget what other two dudes, 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.200 but I have it on camera one hundred percent. You 0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:05.560 remember I used to run around with the camera. 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.440 You was ahead of time. I was ahead of time. 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:10.840 I was blogging before it was blog blogging. 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:11.640 You was blogging. 0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:15.040 So fun comes and these two chicks they see him. 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.200 He's like elch Asian girl and a black girl. 0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.680 Right, So I got my Bronx people with me. When 0:31:21.720 --> 0:31:23.719 I got my queens people, they all know each other 0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:25.960 all the like the hood niggas, like they all know 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:26.400 each other. 0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.040 So they're like, yo, we go on the vans like 0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:33.520 kiss up? So just never kissed? 0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:34.920 Was gay? 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.120 Nothing? It's on camera. I can one hundred percent prove this. 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:44.040 They kiss somebody's wife now, moms or somebody. That's why. 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:46.600 Why you want to foot the job? 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:47.160 Right? 0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:48.280 So whatever? 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.800 Then they had we had a Queen's versus Bronx fuck off, 0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:53.520 like whoever busts. 0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:58.080 For the loser? But why is you? We're all in 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:05.120 the van, you remember in the van niggas the fantastic 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.720 yo dude, and like it's like your putting in that word. 0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.160 But you're right next to you, so you shouldn't bust 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:16.400 like it's like you hold it downas like yo, yo, 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.640 I got the whole ship on film, So now it was. 0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:20.760 A wonderful day. 0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:23.360 It's a wonderful time. I don't know what. 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:27.600 Pun yelled to Tony's right, but they went and they 0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:28.960 got the Super Squirters. 0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:29.200 Right. 0:32:29.440 --> 0:32:32.920 This is zero below decrease in New York City when 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.000 they got the water gun up the Super Squirters with 0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:39.280 this New York City snow, I'm not talking about the 0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:39.840 fresh snow. 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.000 I'm talking about the snow where you see Yellow ship 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:46.000 in there and you see the blacks, the blacks and 0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.680 they put the snow from the Super Squirter, waited till 0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:53.360 it melted. The bitches fucked the whole crew. Why do 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.640 we have to do anything. As soon as they came up, 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:57.640 they squirted. 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:05.680 A film and the bitches, this is back in the days, 0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:07.000 they didn't even. 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:08.680 Care they was lasting. 0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.760 They felt like yo, fuck yuh. This is one of 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:12.960 the wildest nights in my life. 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.560 This is a long time ago. No pun you know, 0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:21.160 pun Uh, you know I was the only nigga could 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.840 control him. So he would be ducking me and ship 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.920 because this nigga, the niggas calling me the cops. Cops 0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:30.600 was like, you know some niggas. I was cool. They 0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.560 was like, Yo, they gonna lock that nigga pun Up. 0:33:32.640 --> 0:33:35.080 I'm like what they say. He's shooting the old ladies 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:42.960 coming out the supermarket with the super soap. So they like, y'all, nigga, 0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:45.920 we in the hole. He's the only nigga with a 0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:49.160 six hundred great vans and we're not coming. He's shooting 0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:52.600 the old ladies with the ship down the Soka and 0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:54.520 niggas is like, yo, my nigga, he gonna go to 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.160 jail for this. He's gonna be on the news. So 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:58.960 I go over there and got to make a movie. 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:02.000 Scream at Pun as loud as you can scream. Mother fuck. 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.560 I'm telling you, Figga like the nigga's crazy. Man. He 0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:06.160 was crazy. 0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:10.400 He was crazy recipes he was. He was, uh, well 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:14.600 you and pun was my first friends and hip hop damn. 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.960 He was the first that was Hotel Louise Scotcha. I 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.120 was so gassed because the first ship he said was 0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:23.960 Hostelois Scotcha holding guns and. 0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:29.000 Felt that way at me, though. He was like, I'm 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.560 not sure if he's Puerto Rican. What you said, you 0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:33.479 gotta tell him the story. 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:36.560 I caught him. He was at the Puerto Rican parade 0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.440 and I've seen him, this is the first time, and 0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.960 I helped him up. It was like thousands of niggas 0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:46.680 around me, and I got the i't I remember a tsunami. 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.279 So I helped the nigga up and I was like, Yo, 0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.000 what's up, nigga, Yo, we fuck with you, nigga. He 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:55.800 was hight right and then, But what he wanted me 0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.360 to get at is he always said he's Spanish, but 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.840 he with black niggas and he looked black, so we 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:07.040 never totally believed it, you know what I'm saying. So 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.200 one day I'm in Chicago and the nigga called me up. 0:35:10.239 --> 0:35:12.240 He's like, Yo, you gotta show a House of Blues. 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.279 I said yeah, he said, Yo, my my family want 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:17.600 to come to this show. So I'm like, I ain't 0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:21.279 no question nor really look at the hotel. I'm in 0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.280 the hotel telling the niggas meet me in the lobby. 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:27.120 I meet him, nigga, come over with the guy better 0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:30.320 than some gray Roman. The niggas like hey, Joe, Like, 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:36.680 I am no brother, I'm like, what this be? Like Bobby, 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:42.800 you're through sign, you're saying well through some I was like, 0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.560 what the fuck? Nigga? Really, I might have called him 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:47.840 honey niggas, Yodi nigga. 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:51.760 He wasn't fring. I'm looking at the Puerto Rican niggas. 0:35:53.320 --> 0:36:01.359 He's really. Oh my, the real Puerto Ricans came in Chicago, right, Nah? 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.440 That was crazy. That was very funny, man, that was 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:05.080 very funny. 0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:05.400 It was. 0:36:06.880 --> 0:36:09.200 Yeah. So so so let me ask you something right 0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:10.080 at all? 0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:14.680 All the thing about you is what people don't understand 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:17.200 about you is you're actually a lyricist. 0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:22.360 Like you make party records. But even in your party record, 0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:22.640 like I. 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:24.520 Told this, I said, Joe is one of my top 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.920 friends of all time, but when it comes time to 0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:31.000 do a feature for me, he's like the worst list. 0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:32.640 But not because he's not. 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:33.160 Gonna do it. 0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.040 It's he takes his time with something like you actually 0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.480 do like I know, you never dissed me. 0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:39.919 Like you my brother, Like you know what I'm saying, 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:42.719 I ate in your crib, my crib all the time 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:43.600 with our families. 0:36:43.880 --> 0:36:46.600 You're my brother, so it's not but You're like, do 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:47.960 you think you're a perfectionist? 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:52.440 Definitely a perfectionist with everything. Yeah, sometimes you know the 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:57.800 way ship move nowadays, Niggas get mad at how I 0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:01.000 am because I like to roll it out, you know 0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.719 what I'm saying, And that's key to a lot of shit. 0:37:04.239 --> 0:37:07.080 Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. Maybe I ain't the 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.479 smartest nigger, but I want to make sure shit gets 0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:13.200 this buck for his money with everything we do. You 0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.640 know what I'm saying. With these young kids I'm fucking 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:18.600 with right now, to the first niggas I fuck with 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.279 in years, they got fire, and I'm still like, Yo, 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:25.239 we need more. We need more because you can't make 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.879 a first impression twice and then rap wise, I ain't 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:30.800 gonna lie to you. No matter who I rap with, 0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.319 I try to take their head off. It's just a fact. 0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:38.279 I gotta go in, and you know, you invite me. 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:43.480 And he's very scared because fat jokers. People probably probably 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:47.200 don't think he's the best rapper in the world. But 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.799 hold on, I'm just saying, people probably don't think I'm 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:52.960 the best rapper in the world, but I'm like the 0:37:53.120 --> 0:37:55.720 Mexican nigga. You don't want to fight in the boxing 0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:57.520 because he not going down. 0:37:58.120 --> 0:37:59.400 He's a hell of a fighter. 0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:02.880 He's one of them niggas that you know you scared 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:05.400 to fight. You scared to fight him because you know 0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:07.560 he gonna go. You're gonna have to kill his nigga 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.520 in the ring, you know what I'm saying. So that's 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:11.680 how it is with raps because when you invite me 0:38:12.440 --> 0:38:16.359 to it, you know, and the worst nigga was Pun, 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:18.960 you know what I'm saying. What Pun was going for? 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:22.000 Niggas had man since Pun died, who was like a 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.400 person that you did a record with and you. 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:26.760 Was like, man, let me be on my best, best 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.200 best everybody everybody. I tell my son that. 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:36.000 But it's not like just one person, little everybody, everybody. 0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:38.920 Every time I go into booth, All right, let me 0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:40.440 tell you a secret. I'll tell you in front of 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:41.920 the whole world that I never told. 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:44.200 Nobody's because the whole world listen. It makes for the 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.359 whole fucking world listening. God damn it. I like when 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.319 you threw that out there. Thank you very much. 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:53.520 Who listen every night my whole career, every night I 0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:58.279 got in the studio till this night. You know, I 0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.920 never know if I'm gonna die when I leave the studio, 0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:06.160 So when I do my work in the studio, I 0:39:06.320 --> 0:39:09.960 go the hardest I could go in history when I 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.080 work on my music, because if I die, I know 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:14.840 that's the only thing that's gonna remind people for years 0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:18.640 and years, twenty thirty years later that I put it down. Now, 0:39:18.760 --> 0:39:20.759 if you want to say, fat job, if you want 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:22.879 me to tell you how I really feel, I feel 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.520 like I'm one of the most underrated rappers of all time. 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:29.719 And that's why I'm been in the game this long 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.480 and I still make music. And every time, like every time, 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:36.640 I'm like a little kid waiting for his father on Christmas. 0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:39.759 I'm waiting for niggas to finally give it up. And 0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:41.800 they act like it's luck that you've been in the 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:44.560 game for twenty years. They act like it's luck. Did 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:49.400 you put out ten fifteen top number five records in 0:39:49.480 --> 0:39:52.400 the world. So Villians, they act like this shit, like, yo, 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.399 he's just a lucky nigga. You understand what I'm saying, 0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.719 But it takes it takes, you know, dedication to that. 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.000 So like with this this album with Remy, I'm spitting 0:40:02.120 --> 0:40:05.920 my ass off, and I'm like, all right, maybe this 0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:09.880 time get you there finally listen to be you know, 0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:11.919 because right now it's a little different from me. I'm 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.560 a little older, you know what I'm saying, I'm a veteran. 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.320 The young niggas don't look at me as a threat 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.080 no more. I'm not saying physically. They just don't look 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.239 at me as like I'm their competition. 0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:23.880 So now they're able to. 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:26.560 Say, Yo, my nigga, we love your ship. You know 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.920 you're a ved Yo. Fuck with you, nigga, you were 0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:31.280 a legend. Before it was more like they were scared 0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:32.960 to tell me that because they felt like we were 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:33.720 still competing. 0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:36.840 The thing they don't know is that we really still competing. 0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:46.960 I love that, love that album. We compete. So on 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:50.759 this album right here, I'm spitting my ass off so 0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:55.160 that maybe just maybe niggas can look and listen to 0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:57.720 this album and be like, ooh this nigga crazy. 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:03.200 One more, what's the one record that a producer played 0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:06.160 for you or brung you and you didn't funk with. 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:10.200 Oh, you're crazy? And the record that you just said, Rihanna, 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:15.120 you fucked up my thing when you know I put 0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:16.600 it out there that I could have signed them and 0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:18.920 them six times heard this story. 0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.799 That's sad. No, I've never heard this story out there. 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:23.520 Give it to us. 0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:25.120 It's out there for real. 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.520 Point at what point when I was young and them. 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.600 We went We was having dinner one day, he was like, 0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:32.479 yo Joe, crack. You know, I gave you my demo 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:36.719 six times. I said, what this is? After he's the 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.600 high but you don't remember. He didn't remember you way 0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:44.000 before before. So the nigga turned around. He was like, 0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:45.759 I gave it to you. How can I be down? 0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:48.279 I gave it to you, Jack the Rapper, I gave 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:49.960 it to you in Atlanta. I gave it to you 0:41:50.080 --> 0:41:52.640 in Jersey when I was with the Outsiders, I gave it. 0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.480 He knew every time he gave me his demo, and 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.040 I was like, Jesus Christ, I could have had him 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:01.919 and now, but the ReCl I sat in the house 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:06.879 with Salom Remen and uh and he made Fuuji live 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:14.520 for me. Oh and then and I sat trying to 0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:18.960 feature you sat for me in this living room and 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:21.279 I was there with him for hours and then he 0:42:21.480 --> 0:42:24.160 was like, yo Joe. Like a week later, he was like, 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:29.440 yo Joe, you you want this record? And I was like, nah, 0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:31.800 I'm good. He was like, you want this record? I 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.160 was like, na, I'm good, and then it was fuuji 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.160 live know my record was and I got another one 0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:38.759 bigger than that. 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.880 I'm gonna let me just tell you because I have 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:45.000 the same exact story. Track Masters was in. 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:51.440 The studio with me and they made y'all up with 0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:56.799 y'all and I was like, you know, niggas and a laugh. 0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.360 I told him I didn't even want it, but I 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:04.479 was still mad. 0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.640 You probably wanted to vomit. I'm gonna tell you my 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:14.000 story again. See Scott's tortured me. Our chemistry was like 0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:18.320 if I knew what I knew now, then I probably 0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.360 would have been the richest nigga in the world. Because 0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:25.800 I worked with Scott Storch five times. All five songs 0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.960 went number one in America. It's just the bottom line. 0:43:29.000 --> 0:43:30.759 Every time I sat down with the nigga, we made 0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:33.319 a number one. If I knew that now, I would 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.120 have had fifty songs with Scott's story at that time, 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:37.600 I would have Indeed, I would have. 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:38.399 Never left them. 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:40.440 I would have been on a nigga breathing on a 0:43:40.520 --> 0:43:42.920 nigga like, Yo, Scott, let's do another one your Scott. 0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:47.879 Let's do nothing right. So I come and I make uh, 0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:56.080 what is it a candy shop? I made that be dude, 0:43:56.120 --> 0:43:59.920 do dude, do do do? And then and he was 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:02.520 going out with He was going out with with with 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:06.320 with uh with with little Kim. So the way I 0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.640 make beats with with with with with Wisconsin's he could 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.960 play whatever. So I would tell him boom boom being 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:17.480 and ben boom boom being and ban boom. That's how 0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:20.239 I made lean back boom boom boom. He just did 0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:22.840 whatever I said, like I could damn near beat box it, 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.840 and he played. So we made candy shop. The crazy 0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:30.239 ship is. I don't want my wife to to kill me. 0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:33.000 But we had little Kim up in there moving him 0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:39.319 Ben there. We was doing the beat to this pitch. 0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:46.279 She was doing a little boom. I'm like, yo, he 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:54.399 gotta be more Arabic d yo. We got little Kim 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.719 up in there doing the Arabic dance and ship. So 0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.359 then the nigga, now, I'm gonna keep it a buck 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.319 with y'all nobody. I don't even know if I can 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:04.960 keep it too much a buck but what I can 0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:08.560 say is we did it, but that was right after 0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:12.600 lean back. It would have been yourmongus hit. And some 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:15.759 of my niggas and my crew convinced me not to 0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:21.000 do it. They was like, oh, you know Shirt, like 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:25.000 mean bad, my nigga, you keep going with Scott's starch. 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:26.800 I should have been like, yeah, nigga, every time I 0:45:26.880 --> 0:45:30.719 fuck with him as number one, Nah my son, do 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:32.920 this one, and I picked the other shit. I know 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:38.000 you've been searching for someone instead of that ship. So 0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:41.920 Scott might have called me, I'm gonna tell you, I'm 0:45:41.960 --> 0:45:46.480 gonna keep it a buck. Scott called me maybe fifty 0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.759 times in the row. I had no beef for fifty seconds, right, 0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:53.399 So I had no beef with him at the time. 0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:58.160 You know that was my next question. Let's just say 0:45:58.400 --> 0:45:59.320 forty times. 0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:02.760 Are you sure you don't want that beat? Everybody says 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.480 they hit Joe fifty centers in the here right now. 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.600 He wants to pay me whatever on earth for this ship. 0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.960 Are you sure Joe? I won't give him the beat? Joe, 0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.279 this is your beat? Like he would not stop calling, like, 0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:19.920 are you sure Joe you don't want this ship? I'm like, nah, 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:22.360 the one Yo Joe like it was just O D 0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:24.880 And I was like, nah, nah, nah, I'm good that 0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:26.359 ship was like number one. 0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:32.160 In the universe. After you know, he told you to 0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:34.799 him selling it. He told you before he ain't give 0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:35.120 up the. 0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:40.040 Song, Okay, I told him, I ain't want it. You 0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:40.600 know what I'm saying. 0:46:40.680 --> 0:46:44.000 My artists I wish I would have signed, would have 0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:45.120 to be hands down for. 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:46.759 Real, like I don't. I don't. 0:46:46.760 --> 0:46:49.040 I can't tell you that Pharrell told me to sign them, 0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:51.120 but he said, could you shot my beats? 0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.879 This one hundred percent of real story. I went to drink. 0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.279 I went to bring him to see Nasi. At the time, 0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:00.000 me and Nas was mad cool like Nas. He didn't 0:47:00.040 --> 0:47:03.040 know how to roll like so he did not. 0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:03.600 Roll a blo. 0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.799 I don't neither. I wrote the worst blunts in the world. 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:07.800 But We're gonna smoke. 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:12.279 Don't judge me, you know what I'm saying. So never 0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:16.719 be curved like you. I rolle pregnant blunt ship. You 0:47:16.760 --> 0:47:18.239 know it's uncircumcised ship, you. 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:22.920 Know what I mean. But so he asked me to. 0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:24.880 To shot it. 0:47:24.960 --> 0:47:28.000 So I went, I bring it to Nines and he 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:32.759 made oh baby, you want me oh, baby, you want me. 0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.520 I wanted to be so bad, he said. After you 0:47:35.719 --> 0:47:37.360 heard it, he said, y'all I made. 0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:37.880 It for Nas. 0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.920 I said, damn, I'm not a hater. He's my brother. 0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.759 I brung it to nas Uh. He actually played it. 0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:50.360 Nas loved it in the studio as soon as he left. Now, 0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:52.160 I said, Yo, why your man's shirts. 0:47:58.800 --> 0:47:59.839 I was discouraged. 0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:03.759 I was like, I know that, Like this was it? 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.680 Like we made super dun dupe nigga. 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.759 We got the number way different in the country like 0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:11.840 his nigga's doing way worse. 0:48:12.719 --> 0:48:14.880 But he was the first one though, so yeah, so 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:17.880 and that that would be my that would be my 0:48:19.400 --> 0:48:24.120 you know uh because again for real Chad rob Walker. 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:28.000 They never said sign me, but they said shot my beats. 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.400 So to me like you know me and you we 0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:34.800 fall from from the same tree where we helped a 0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.000 lot of people get recognition. 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:38.640 Getting the game and all we wanted the TV set. 0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.719 Slept on my couch to meet with. But he also 0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:46.600 we were close a little bit. What in New York 0:48:46.680 --> 0:48:47.800 City watched my draws. 0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:54.080 I mean I was from at the time. That's my brother, 0:48:54.160 --> 0:48:58.680 That's what It's true. He had lunch, not do that 0:48:59.400 --> 0:48:59.680 my son. 0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:00.680 He's a good guy. 0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:03.880 Let's leave on shows you the progression. 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:10.879 Great you got listen is true, it's true. You're talking 0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:11.879 about true. 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:12.920 It's not disrespecting. 0:49:13.040 --> 0:49:14.840 It is you, Yo, talking like this. 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:17.320 He might my floors also. 0:49:18.640 --> 0:49:20.600 General fat Joe's not Coach Stein. 0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:25.600 It's nothing. He brought me a strip. He's my brother. 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:31.279 He knows that. I just you know, it's true. Stops true. 0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:35.160 You got it all, guys, you got it all. Say 0:49:35.920 --> 0:49:36.400 you said it? 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:38.760 You think crazy? 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:40.400 You know you could have Yo. 0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:44.440 Don't like me anyways, Come on, I don't think. But 0:49:44.560 --> 0:49:46.759 I'm just a piece of it. But he's my god brother. 0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.879 You know, we got a lot of piece of ship. Brother. 0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:52.000 You got a lot of peo. You got a lot 0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:52.440 of people that. 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:55.359 Got a lot of peops because you like, you're not kind. 0:49:55.560 --> 0:49:56.880 It's like what but it's still family. 0:49:57.120 --> 0:50:02.520 It's not fine that the You gotta find the good 0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:05.200 and people doing negative. That's what my father used to say. 0:50:05.280 --> 0:50:07.239 My father used to say, when you see people, see 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:09.359 the good in them first, and then you see the bad. 0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:11.759 Yeah, you know, I got an uncle. He lies a 0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:15.239 lot like he's a pathological lion, like like in this 0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:18.840 summer he'll tell you it's winter, you know, like the 0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.879 nigga just lying, Like why didn't we have lots of friends, 0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.680 like the nigga just won't stop lying to the point 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.360 of you, like yo, you cannot be serious about this, 0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:30.640 like you're lying like all of them. I got to 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:32.880 pull him to the side. But the new thing I 0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:35.600 don't I do with him because he's my he's my uncle, 0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:38.960 he's my blood. I love him, one of my favorite 0:50:39.680 --> 0:50:41.680 you know. Now when he lies, I'll be like, you 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:45.440 know he's lying. You know, I'll tell you in their faith, 0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.200 in his face, he knows. My new shit is to 0:50:48.400 --> 0:50:51.200 really try to stop him from lying, is like, oh no, 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:55.359 he's lying. We didn't go there. We just came from 0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:59.879 this niggas lying. I love him. He's really my uncle. 0:51:00.000 --> 0:51:02.920 Don't look at him crazy, because he really is my uncle. 0:51:03.200 --> 0:51:05.960 He's a fucking liar, but simple, let me ask you 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:09.720 a question. You and he has so much great quality, 0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:13.520 so he didn't lie all the time. Be the best 0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:14.279 snig in the world. 0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:19.400 So the water, shorty, please, no disrespect, it's actually it's 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:29.000 not water. You're killing Jesus. So me and you, me 0:51:29.040 --> 0:51:30.920 and you, we have a lot like the same thing 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:32.919 with good people. We see the good and people. 0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:35.560 We just want everybody to win that we hope that 0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:38.399 when they do win, they don't forget where they came 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:41.279 from and they will always be there for us. And 0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:46.360 he's so nor he's so full of ship. Bro Nory goes. 0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:49.560 He says, all right, come to my podcast one may 0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:52.879 I no. I mean, he comes in the studio last night, 0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:57.800 stops the studio right and starts playing music and starts 0:51:57.800 --> 0:52:01.279 telling everybody how I'm his best in the world, but 0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:03.960 I'm the worst nigga to ask for him verse in 0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:08.920 his life. But he's subliminately left the track there do 0:52:09.160 --> 0:52:12.719 the battery in my back to where today? Guess what 0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:15.360 I'm gonna being saw. 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:18.760 Listen listen again. 0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.680 I know I said it earlier, but I feel like 0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:24.799 we should praise praise people while they here. Joe has 0:52:24.880 --> 0:52:26.759 always been there for me, just for people that know 0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:30.080 I'm I'm the worst of the worst, the best of 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:31.280 the best in between. 0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:32.399 You know what I'm saying. 0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:34.719 And I say that I say that too, like I 0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:38.759 remember like like job, Joe is my brother, but it 0:52:38.880 --> 0:52:41.680 was rough being a job rule one point. 0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:45.360 I remember walking with joy Roll in the mall and 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:46.160 people going. 0:52:48.280 --> 0:52:48.920 And running. 0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.640 This is before Twitter, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:52:51.760 --> 0:52:53.759 right now people people would do it like this. 0:52:55.040 --> 0:52:57.480 I remember one time, like we were hanging out and 0:52:57.640 --> 0:52:58.759 I was like, I was going to the mall. 0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:02.239 He was like, well are you doing sh but mind you, 0:53:02.360 --> 0:53:03.640 he's the biggest. 0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:05.760 Like I'm okay, I can walk. 0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:11.440 Around though, right, I'm okay, yo, why didn't give you 0:53:11.520 --> 0:53:15.360 a podcast? And then it was like, I'll go with you. 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:19.200 He's whatever. 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.640 He's fifty number one a hit or off, but fifty 0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:26.120 is killing him on the streets in the radio. He's 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:29.640 the biggest thing and alive. So we walking through the 0:53:29.760 --> 0:53:30.840 mall and I'm chilling. 0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:31.800 You know, it's nothing. 0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:32.560 This is my brother. 0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:35.920 I ain't thinking nothing of it. I just heard you 0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:39.879 bit and I'm like the first time. I'm like, I'm 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:41.600 gonna act like I ain't hear that one? 0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:43.880 You feel me? Because I'm like, just do that. 0:53:43.960 --> 0:53:47.760 Ain't for me, So just keep walking. This is my homie. 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:49.560 Let's keep up. 0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:51.520 I heard it again. Now this time. 0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.480 This is when the sweats come down. You know, you 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:57.239 know when that one piece said why don't John Ruins doing? 0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:58.319 He just kept walking out. 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:01.400 He the first one too, we both ignored the. 0:54:01.440 --> 0:54:02.600 Person's kept it moving. 0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:05.879 But the second one was like, and you can tell 0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:07.080 it was like a white boy. 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:09.759 He was just a fan and just wanted to say, 0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:13.239 let's just say, let's just say, let's just say, what 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:18.040 point is I stuck with? You supposed to? Now, let's 0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.400 just say that's what real friends do, and this business 0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:23.480 is built on fake friends. So let's just keep it 0:54:23.560 --> 0:54:26.279 a thousand. So they say the real recognize the real. 0:54:26.440 --> 0:54:30.040 The truth is, we gotta flip that around and say 0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:33.920 the fake recognize the fake, because if you really in 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:37.520 this industry, then it's almost like you got AIDS. There 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:40.839 ain't no realness in this shit. Just know that, right, 0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:45.920 So we celebrate the real. But it's hard because if 0:54:45.960 --> 0:54:48.279 you analyze the ship to be going on, you can't 0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:51.319 make no sense of it. Right, So let's just say 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:57.120 DMX probably had it the worst. Well, hold on EMX. 0:54:57.200 --> 0:55:01.200 Probably DMX has demons. M X has been using and 0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:02.200 abusing drugs. 0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:04.160 He almost supposed to call it in tonight. 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:08.479 He almost died. Do you know you almost died? Last week? 0:55:09.719 --> 0:55:13.759 I sent the pastor to his hospital. I was, you said, 0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:17.880 the pastor to his hospital? You said, the past his hospital. 0:55:19.080 --> 0:55:21.560 That's like a whole other podcast by itself, because you 0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:22.759 know what, I'm gonna be honest with you. 0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:23.960 You know what can say. 0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:29.600 You know what you say is a fact. Let me 0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:30.320 tell you I was. 0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:32.640 I was smoking we with d m X one night 0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:34.680 at four o'clock in the morning. First of all, I 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:35.560 got a record from. 0:55:37.239 --> 0:55:39.200 When he was ten million. When he was ten million, 0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:43.160 I got a wreckord with m I can't say I'm coming. 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:46.680 I know I'm gonna get in trouble in all the blogs. 0:55:47.080 --> 0:55:51.359 I'm fucking with y'all. You're not y'all get it all out. 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:58.560 Listen one time you gotta go, you gotta get. You 0:55:58.600 --> 0:55:59.719 gotta hear my DMX story. 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:00.560 Now I gotta I got a. 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:05.000 Whole long yo, Joe. This nigga sold ten million at 0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:09.239 the time. The greatest managers Ali Ali is my We 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:13.360 know A went on tour with me. He did everything. 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:16.640 This is my But Ali used to sell rims and queens. 0:56:16.719 --> 0:56:18.359 That's how we know him from back in the day. 0:56:19.040 --> 0:56:27.040 He used to work up queens and militia. So check it. 0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:29.960 I'm one death jam. So I called death Jam. 0:56:29.880 --> 0:56:31.880 And I said, Yo, I need you to book my 0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:35.320 flight to go see DMX. I'm ana fly on Monday 0:56:35.360 --> 0:56:38.279 and I'm gonna return on Wednesday. So Tina Davis, who 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:41.800 is Chris Brown's manager, Tina Davis calls me and says. 0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:46.360 Nobody does the record with the dog Daddy easy for 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:46.960 mind you. 0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:51.239 I seen DMX and River Park towers four o'clock in 0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:54.759 the morning. Niggas are throwing refrigerators out of you know 0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:56.800 what towers in the Bronx. 0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:59.280 By the way, this is not Queens. I got family 0:56:59.360 --> 0:57:03.040 and Damon and LEVI living. Do you understand how. 0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:06.959 It sounds when a fuckingfrigerator drops. 0:57:09.680 --> 0:57:11.960 And these niggas is just standing around. This is what 0:57:12.120 --> 0:57:16.160 they do for fun. And River off right the m 0:57:16.320 --> 0:57:17.959 X coming through there at four o'clock in the morning. 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:22.160 I see niggas gonna try bottom line, Nah, it's not happening, 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:22.800 and I'm gonna. 0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:24.560 Die just to make sure he's good. Me and Ex 0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:27.960 is good. He got the sold till man at this time. 0:57:28.320 --> 0:57:30.800 This is the hottest thing in the world DMX, So 0:57:30.920 --> 0:57:32.000 I say I'm going to l a. 0:57:36.480 --> 0:57:39.240 It's the first nigga to drop two albums. This is 0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:43.560 this is this first week like disgusting ship. He was 0:57:43.640 --> 0:57:46.520 doing so that I told you about that method. Man too, 0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:48.439 I told you I've been trying to school my son 0:57:48.520 --> 0:57:50.600 about that. So look ship boy. 0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:53.720 So I so Tim David said to me, who is 0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:54.640 Chris Brown manager? 0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:55.200 Now? 0:57:55.280 --> 0:57:56.360 I think or you to. 0:57:57.920 --> 0:58:02.040 But she says to me, nobody flies into LA on Monday, 0:58:02.240 --> 0:58:04.320 records with DMX on Tuesday, and it. 0:58:04.440 --> 0:58:07.600 Flies out on Wednesday, Norri. And I'm like, I'm Nori. 0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:12.080 I'm like, I'm like, you crazy man. She was right, 0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:14.480 hold on, hold on, wait till I go with this. 0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:21.480 I didn't even see this nigger till Thursday. My nigga, oh, 0:58:21.640 --> 0:58:24.120 were in the same hotel. We both got the presidential 0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:27.040 switch in the w and Westwood. He got the he 0:58:27.160 --> 0:58:28.880 got the two door one. I got the other one 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:32.760 with the one doll. Right, I don't even see this nigga. 0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:34.640 You next door to this, next. 0:58:34.520 --> 0:58:37.240 Door to this nigger. Right, this nigga knocks on my 0:58:37.320 --> 0:58:37.920 door four. 0:58:37.760 --> 0:58:41.520 O'clock in the morning, Thursday morning, four o'clock, which means 0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:44.440 that seven am, New York time, knocks. 0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:46.520 On my door. Your dogs you ready, dog? 0:58:46.920 --> 0:58:52.560 So I'm like, holy shit, hell yeah, ready, I know 0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:54.840 what this is what CNN record too. It's not like 0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:57.840 a Norri record CNN. This is this is the hood, 0:58:57.920 --> 0:59:00.680 the hood. I gotta get this ship. He didn't not 0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:03.800 gonna compone door. He knocked on my dogs. So, yo, 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:04.360 let me tell you. 0:59:04.480 --> 0:59:08.919 Why did you nor was already platinum? Yes, but yeah, 0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:12.360 but I had to get the job. This is wrong. 0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:13.920 This is what your man had to do. This is 0:59:13.960 --> 0:59:14.440 what I had to do. 0:59:14.680 --> 0:59:19.120 The nigga walks works me up, We go downstairs, got 0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:20.480 six cars downstairs. 0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:22.920 Four days later, so I got this is this is 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:24.360 four days it's Thursday. 0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:27.480 I flew out mondayn't see the nigga to Thursday, four 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:28.680 o'clock in the morning, which. 0:59:28.480 --> 0:59:33.840 Is technically Friday. The nigga is six cars is downstairs. 0:59:34.160 --> 0:59:35.560 I tell my niggas, wake up, wake up. 0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:36.360 Bring the car out. 0:59:37.080 --> 0:59:38.840 My car comes out. He's like, no, no, no, no, 0:59:39.680 --> 0:59:42.920 you're driving with me. So I heard about this nigga 0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.240 with this driving shit. Fuck is line. This is what 0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:47.880 you gotta do. This is what you gotta do, right, 0:59:48.000 --> 0:59:49.680 this is what you Shut the fuck up. 0:59:50.320 --> 0:59:53.800 Yo. If anybody ever went stayed at the W Hotel 0:59:53.840 --> 0:59:59.480 in Westwood, we drove six cars, right plus my two. 1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:01.880 From the W. 1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:05.920 Westwood all the way around right to Ralph's parking lot, 1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:09.840 which like we could have walked in, so you went 1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:11.320 around the old ship. 1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:13.480 Just to go right across the street the park. But 1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:16.120 he he's a driver. He wants to drive there. He 1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:19.480 doesn't want to walk there. So we pull out God 1:00:19.520 --> 1:00:20.480 goes you like cars. 1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:25.720 I'm like, he pulls out like seven thousand dollars worth, 1:00:26.200 --> 1:00:28.720 like the real expensive mo control cars. 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:32.360 So I'm like, oh, but what I'm gonna say. I 1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:33.320 don't want to do this. 1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:34.840 I need this verse. 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:37.360 So I'm sitting there with the Mogan troll cars. 1:00:37.720 --> 1:00:38.760 I'm acting like I like. 1:00:46.040 --> 1:00:46.240 Time. 1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:49.000 So I'm like, cool, I did it. 1:00:49.320 --> 1:00:49.640 Boom. 1:00:49.760 --> 1:00:52.280 He just drives off. It's over. Never see him again, 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:55.640 right boom. The next day he hits me, let's go, noy. 1:00:56.440 --> 1:00:59.000 I'm like, all right, it's gonna happen. Mind you. Deth 1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:01.720 Jam's calling me every day. We got the session locked out, 1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:03.280 three thousand dollars a day. 1:01:03.200 --> 1:01:07.240 For Monday's like yo, I'm like, now I can't, but 1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:07.880 I don't want. 1:01:07.720 --> 1:01:10.360 To tell them they were right. So I'm like, cheer, cheer, 1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:11.600 just cheer, just cheer. 1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:12.080 Chip. 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:15.520 This motherfucker's like, yo, let's go, let's go. He took 1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:18.200 me to Dublins. Now, I didn't know at the time 1:01:18.320 --> 1:01:22.560 Dublins was a fucking pool hall. Right, I'm thinking Dublins 1:01:22.640 --> 1:01:24.520 might be the studio he was going to buying. I 1:01:24.600 --> 1:01:29.240 never seen the studio paying three racks every day we went. 1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:32.520 He goes to the pool. The second favorite thing I 1:01:32.720 --> 1:01:38.600 hain't in life. Don't fucking play fucking pool. Playing pool. 1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:44.080 I'm sitting there acting like I like pool again. Fucking 1:01:44.800 --> 1:01:48.680 Sunday morning. We're just hanging out. I still don't get diverse. 1:01:48.480 --> 1:01:50.080 But he's hanging with me. I know he's not this 1:01:50.240 --> 1:01:53.120 with me. Some random dude just walks on the street. 1:01:53.120 --> 1:01:56.440 He's like, yo, door, Max, Like, what up? 1:01:56.520 --> 1:01:56.720 Dog? 1:01:57.240 --> 1:01:59.800 He's like, I got a studio right here, he said, Yo, Norri, 1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:00.680 look at that. 1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:10.240 We got the studio. I said, I'm done, Josh, take 1:02:10.360 --> 1:02:15.320 me down, y'all gotta do it. So but he just 1:02:15.440 --> 1:02:21.240 love your man. He's just like, yes, Joe, excuse you not. 1:02:21.680 --> 1:02:26.280 Bect somebody off the fucking rick random and we're like, 1:02:27.200 --> 1:02:28.480 are we gonna use this studio? 1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:29.480 I'm like the dog. 1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:31.880 He's like, you, that's what you've been looking for, right, 1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:34.760 I said, Dog? I had the studio book since Monday, 1:02:35.080 --> 1:02:35.920 were going there. 1:02:36.320 --> 1:02:40.240 You know, here's the crazy ship. The niggas start laying 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:43.960 his verse home. He's guiding it. Me and Paul looking 1:02:44.000 --> 1:02:45.760 at each other like we got it. 1:02:46.840 --> 1:02:50.160 All of a sudden, the music is just dad right, 1:02:50.680 --> 1:02:53.040 and nobody's in the studio saying nothing. 1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:54.240 So we're sitting there. 1:02:54.240 --> 1:02:56.320 I'm sitting around you know me, I'm like, I'm aa 1:02:56.320 --> 1:02:59.040 control freak. I'm sorry, I can't help it. So I'm like, yo, yo, 1:02:59.160 --> 1:03:03.439 what's up. Everybody's didding. I'm saying that I'll open this ship. 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:11.680 This nigga is laid out, not out, yo. Everybody's like, yo, 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:15.280 nobody wake, nobody fucks with the dog while he's sleeping. 1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:23.200 I just paid this hunt nigga too. I paid listen, 1:03:23.640 --> 1:03:26.640 I paid the whole week, and I just paid the. 1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:28.920 Hood nigga because I'm like, he's like, y'all do it 1:03:28.920 --> 1:03:29.440 for you for free. 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:31.440 I'm like, now he fell out and need all my 1:03:31.600 --> 1:03:33.640 five how many how many balls? 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:36.360 He was like he was like six and a half. 1:03:36.560 --> 1:03:41.680 Damn you know. 1:03:41.920 --> 1:03:44.080 I mean that was but let me tell you. Let 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:47.640 me tell you real quick. The nigga we and Jimmy's Cafe. 1:03:47.800 --> 1:03:50.840 The nigga d MX come up in there and he 1:03:51.000 --> 1:03:56.040 sees Tony Sunshine and the nigga had like a love fest. 1:03:56.240 --> 1:03:59.960 Oh my god, Sunshine, I. 1:04:01.600 --> 1:04:02.320 Fucking love you. 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:03.160 I'm like. 1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:07.680 Nigga doing he's doing all that ship right. So we're 1:04:07.680 --> 1:04:11.080 in the bathroom. Were in the bathroom, in the bathroom, 1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:17.640 Jimmy's Cafe, Jimmy Bosks Cafe. Tony, I gotta work with you, y'all. 1:04:17.680 --> 1:04:21.600 The ship yo, yo, norm I gotta work with you, 1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:26.840 same ship right said, This is DMX exactly what you're 1:04:26.840 --> 1:04:30.240 talking about. Nigga was selling a million records a week. 1:04:30.440 --> 1:04:34.200 Nigga like out of this world me. You know, Tony 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:34.680 signed to me. 1:04:34.720 --> 1:04:38.760 I'm like, yo, great, like, let's work like you know. 1:04:38.800 --> 1:04:44.800 What you want to do. I'm flying Tony to l A. 1:04:45.160 --> 1:04:46.480 Okay, I gotta hear this Doory. 1:04:46.760 --> 1:04:51.520 Same exempt up ship, Tony hanging out with the nigga. 1:04:51.720 --> 1:04:54.080 In fact, I think I took. I said Tony and 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:57.720 mat show Tony and Macho to get it done. And 1:04:57.800 --> 1:04:59.680 you know Matcho really trying to get it done here. 1:04:59.720 --> 1:05:03.000 He's that niggas like y'all. He ain't happy, he don't 1:05:03.080 --> 1:05:06.440 like nothing. So the nigga calling me back every day 1:05:06.480 --> 1:05:08.800 He's like, Yo, being this nigga got us on the 1:05:08.920 --> 1:05:14.320 front of that this this, this, this the nigga Tony Sunshine. 1:05:14.360 --> 1:05:18.240 They finally same ship. I think that was his gimmick. 1:05:19.960 --> 1:05:23.440 A week later, nigga I forgot the niggas was in 1:05:23.520 --> 1:05:27.200 that late like a week later, the nigga Macho called me. 1:05:27.240 --> 1:05:29.880 He was like, Yo, you crack. You ain't gonna believe 1:05:29.920 --> 1:05:32.800 this ship. God, I said, what happened? He said, the 1:05:32.880 --> 1:05:39.200 niggas started rapping and went to sleep, no swear to God. 1:05:40.120 --> 1:05:42.320 And I was like, I was. I was like what 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:44.600 he said, Yo, That nigga out like if a nigga 1:05:44.640 --> 1:05:47.280 hit him with a hammer. And niggas was telling the 1:05:47.400 --> 1:05:51.320 same ship. You can't wake the dog up. Nobody waked 1:05:51.360 --> 1:05:52.480 the dog up right now. 1:05:56.160 --> 1:05:57.800 Listen, I'm a nigga. 1:05:57.840 --> 1:05:58.360 I tried. 1:05:58.640 --> 1:06:02.840 What is all right? The scary thing about this story 1:06:03.960 --> 1:06:08.600 is that these stories is in music until you're not 1:06:08.720 --> 1:06:12.640 a bread maker. When you were brad making somebody like 1:06:12.760 --> 1:06:15.560 Rest in Peace, Whitney Houston. They was letting her get 1:06:15.680 --> 1:06:18.280 away with the wildest shit because niggas work for them 1:06:18.560 --> 1:06:21.560 and they scared to tell them, like yo, chill you 1:06:21.720 --> 1:06:25.880 bugging out? Yeah, But I mean, but it's how good 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:29.160 is your check if you letting if you work for 1:06:29.240 --> 1:06:33.640 Fat Joe and you're letting them kill himself, deteriorate himself, 1:06:34.040 --> 1:06:36.160 and you're thinking about your check right now. But at 1:06:36.200 --> 1:06:38.320 the end of the day, all checks is gone when 1:06:38.360 --> 1:06:40.800 I'm going and it's an enabler. 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.800 This ship is crazy, my nigga, and let me get back. 1:06:43.920 --> 1:06:47.120 Let me just tell you the reason why. Because my 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:50.920 grandmother had passed away. And my grandmother passed away. A 1:06:51.040 --> 1:06:52.480 pastor he was out there. 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:53.919 He was he was listen. 1:06:57.320 --> 1:06:57.840 He was like that. 1:06:58.120 --> 1:06:59.320 He was like the hip hop. 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:04.360 Pastor, Like he was quoting versus that my grandmother's fucking funeral. 1:07:05.640 --> 1:07:08.200 And like, you know, you don't have fun at the funeral, 1:07:08.400 --> 1:07:09.360 Like I'm looking up. 1:07:09.440 --> 1:07:11.840 He was quoting lines, hip hop lines, and I was 1:07:11.920 --> 1:07:13.959 like yo, I said, Yo, give me your number. 1:07:14.080 --> 1:07:16.840 I said, yo, I need I need you. You're his manager. No, 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:18.160 I told him I'm gonna need him for I was 1:07:18.200 --> 1:07:20.240 gonna put him on a drunk Uncle Roger. 1:07:20.320 --> 1:07:21.480 But then I thought about it. I was like, I'm 1:07:21.560 --> 1:07:24.040 way too negative, you know, the squeeze in something. 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:24.800 I need this. 1:07:25.240 --> 1:07:26.920 But I helped because if. 1:07:27.320 --> 1:07:29.080 Some blow Moore, I can get the nigga to talk 1:07:29.200 --> 1:07:33.280 some ship real where where he's just talking that ship 1:07:33.480 --> 1:07:35.000 and so look, so now let me tell you now, 1:07:35.000 --> 1:07:36.000 I'm gonna get shot. 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:39.360 At the one time. So look, one time, we're all 1:07:39.440 --> 1:07:42.920 in l A. We're smoking, we drinking whatever. 1:07:43.320 --> 1:07:46.040 And in the middle of all that, DMX said, Yo, 1:07:46.200 --> 1:07:47.880 can you brothers do me a favor? Can you put 1:07:47.880 --> 1:07:48.720 all that down. 1:07:48.640 --> 1:07:51.280 And pray and pray? He want to do that and 1:07:52.000 --> 1:07:54.080 do that to me every time I say he, I 1:07:54.160 --> 1:07:57.400 know you want to pray, Yeah, he'll pray. Yeah. 1:07:57.560 --> 1:08:01.400 So I figured maybe he hear it from somebody else. 1:08:01.920 --> 1:08:05.520 So I put them on this one and we ain't 1:08:05.560 --> 1:08:08.280 never speaking about this. We ain't never speak about this. 1:08:08.360 --> 1:08:08.680 Is real. 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:09.520 I love them. 1:08:10.240 --> 1:08:11.160 He knows I love him. 1:08:11.200 --> 1:08:13.640 So every time I see him, we gotta pray, man, right, 1:08:13.720 --> 1:08:16.440 Yah know, he prays for me, man. But I don't understand, 1:08:16.760 --> 1:08:22.000 like I don't you know, I don't get it. Man. 1:08:22.040 --> 1:08:25.320 He's a complicated dude, And it's like it's sad man 1:08:25.400 --> 1:08:28.640 because people really love him. Sometimes people love you and 1:08:28.760 --> 1:08:31.519 you deal with so many demons and depression, but they 1:08:31.600 --> 1:08:33.920 can't even affect you with like sometimes I'm having a 1:08:33.960 --> 1:08:36.479 shitty day and even if I'm fat, Joe niggas saying y'all, 1:08:36.479 --> 1:08:38.960 I love you, your music is great, I still feel 1:08:39.040 --> 1:08:41.600 like shit, you know what I'm saying. So people got 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:43.479 to deal with their own things their own way. 1:08:45.320 --> 1:08:48.960 But when you got drugs involved, it's a whole. So 1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:50.559 we gotta just pray. We gotta pray. 1:08:51.080 --> 1:08:53.400 I had a pastor when I lived in the projects 1:08:53.479 --> 1:08:55.960 and ship and the nigga would always talk to me 1:08:56.240 --> 1:08:59.000 and then we just wild niggas and ship before rap 1:08:59.120 --> 1:09:01.360 music and all that. And the nigga would talk to 1:09:01.439 --> 1:09:03.240 me and pray all the time. He was also the 1:09:04.439 --> 1:09:07.320 work for housing that he was the sweep and you 1:09:07.439 --> 1:09:11.519 know custodian nigga, right, so he would always talk to 1:09:11.640 --> 1:09:13.640 me and Joey, you know, you need to change your 1:09:13.680 --> 1:09:16.280 life and this and this and that. And what was 1:09:16.400 --> 1:09:20.280 crazy is the time when I had got shot, and 1:09:20.439 --> 1:09:25.880 I got shot maybe fifteen blocks from my block, like 1:09:26.000 --> 1:09:29.479 I wasn't around my hood. But while I'm laying, you 1:09:29.600 --> 1:09:34.040 know what I'm saying, getting shot, laying the fucking pastor 1:09:34.120 --> 1:09:37.479 who used to work in my projects. As I'm running 1:09:37.560 --> 1:09:40.320 and shit like that, he's out there praying for me. 1:09:41.680 --> 1:09:44.000 Like the nigga literally is like I see him, Like, 1:09:44.080 --> 1:09:46.519 I'm like, what the fuck the pastor doing over here? 1:09:48.160 --> 1:09:51.360 Joey is trying to come to God. You know I 1:09:51.520 --> 1:09:55.120 was out there praying. You know, I was out there praying, right, 1:09:55.479 --> 1:09:57.599 So I'm like, yeah, Pastor. You know, I'm always been 1:09:57.640 --> 1:10:00.400 a respectful nigga and shit, so I'm like, yeah, past 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:04.640 the boom. So I remember one time the police was 1:10:04.720 --> 1:10:06.920 so mad at me to this day, they're still mad, 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:11.240 right because they couldn't catch me. So they would hear 1:10:11.320 --> 1:10:14.560 shots fired, fat nigga with red hoodie, you know, like 1:10:14.680 --> 1:10:17.080 they knew what was going on. They just couldn't pln 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:19.559 it on a nigga and they was just so fucking 1:10:19.880 --> 1:10:23.280 eat it right. So I remember one time we had 1:10:23.360 --> 1:10:25.840 some beef and were standing in front of the building 1:10:25.880 --> 1:10:29.840 and we strapped, I mean like super strapped right, were 1:10:30.240 --> 1:10:33.920 ready to go down right, and we got no clue. 1:10:33.960 --> 1:10:35.920 We just you talking about how we're gonna go over 1:10:35.960 --> 1:10:40.080 here and handle our business whatever. So the pastor come over. 1:10:40.479 --> 1:10:43.120 You gotta see you, said Yo, Joey. He said, don't look, 1:10:43.240 --> 1:10:47.000 don't act like you're talking to me. I said, yo's pastor, 1:10:47.080 --> 1:10:50.519 And we act like we talked. He was like, there's 1:10:50.640 --> 1:10:54.800 so many cops on both sides of this building there 1:10:54.800 --> 1:10:58.000 about the rush yard. This is the pastor. I don't 1:10:58.000 --> 1:11:00.400 even think. He ain't supposed to do that. Right when 1:11:00.400 --> 1:11:01.960 you in church, you're supposed to do that. 1:11:02.280 --> 1:11:04.880 He's supposed to listen. If you want to relate to 1:11:04.960 --> 1:11:07.240 the community, you got to be a part of the community. 1:11:07.280 --> 1:11:09.080 You got to be a party. Yo. 1:11:09.400 --> 1:11:12.519 So this nigga tells me right, So I'm like, word, 1:11:12.640 --> 1:11:15.320 He's like, Yo, they on that side and that side. 1:11:15.400 --> 1:11:18.839 So this nigga I was cool with. It's a real passer. 1:11:19.720 --> 1:11:22.479 This nigga I was cool with. Live on the first floor. 1:11:23.080 --> 1:11:25.439 I ain't gonna give him no props, give him say 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:28.960 his name, but I'll tell niggas. It was like three 1:11:29.040 --> 1:11:31.439 of us had hammers. I was like, yo, and like 1:11:31.560 --> 1:11:34.280 the counter. Three nigga we boogy and we diving in 1:11:34.400 --> 1:11:38.559 Homeboy's window. Nigga some one nigga. We just said, wow, 1:11:38.720 --> 1:11:43.320 we went, We took off. We all jumped in the window, right, 1:11:44.080 --> 1:11:46.559 so we shut the window down. You hear the cops 1:11:46.680 --> 1:11:49.760 like one minute where they go because everybody else ran, 1:11:50.240 --> 1:11:52.080 but we got away. We got the hammers, but we 1:11:52.439 --> 1:11:55.360 under the window like a movie, like the windows over us. 1:11:55.680 --> 1:11:58.479 And we're like, and you hear these niggas. There was 1:11:58.520 --> 1:12:02.000 like twenty thirty cops both like how did these niggas 1:12:02.080 --> 1:12:04.960 get away? Right? They bugging out? They on both sides. 1:12:05.040 --> 1:12:06.840 So if I ran around this building, they catch me 1:12:06.920 --> 1:12:09.840 on this side or they bugging out, Like how does 1:12:09.960 --> 1:12:13.400 niggas get away? Right? So we're sitting up there. My 1:12:13.600 --> 1:12:17.479 man's mom's her name was Cheeky Dina. I'll never forget. 1:12:17.560 --> 1:12:18.560 She came over to me. 1:12:18.680 --> 1:12:22.040 She was like, she sounds gangster, she said in Spanish. 1:12:22.600 --> 1:12:25.120 She told me in Spanish, but I'll tell you in English. 1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:29.000 She was like, you guys are bringing me eat to 1:12:29.120 --> 1:12:32.960 my house. Yo, snack my dog? 1:12:34.360 --> 1:12:39.519 Yo, like you making my ship hot? 1:12:40.520 --> 1:12:45.840 And she called the coup, was like, please don't call it. 1:12:45.920 --> 1:12:51.000 Catch you Motherfucker's this Dudey's like, Chi, please don't say nothing. 1:12:51.240 --> 1:12:53.000 But we got away with it. We can never jump 1:12:53.160 --> 1:12:55.280 jump in the window again with the past that helped 1:12:55.320 --> 1:12:55.960 me get away. 1:12:56.080 --> 1:13:01.000 That's right, clipping Howard Daniels, is is our that? I sid? 1:13:01.160 --> 1:13:03.680 That's the one you said, absolutely, man, because you know 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:06.519 what I believe in, what religion you believe? 1:13:06.680 --> 1:13:10.519 For your religion, if you felt you were sending what 1:13:10.720 --> 1:13:12.479 he what he prefers into. 1:13:14.040 --> 1:13:16.040 Listen, he prayed for me. 1:13:17.560 --> 1:13:20.880 Like this is source of wards weekend in La when 1:13:20.920 --> 1:13:23.720 we was on that ship, like your nigga wold like 1:13:23.800 --> 1:13:25.519 you know what I mean, Like I'm from New York. 1:13:25.560 --> 1:13:28.240 I'm gonna I'm gonna leave with my jury, Like that's 1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:31.080 my word, that's that's that's that's how I felt at 1:13:31.120 --> 1:13:31.519 that time. 1:13:31.640 --> 1:13:34.320 So my mind framed. He's also he also saved me, 1:13:34.760 --> 1:13:38.439 like when we landed. When we landed, Yeah, when we landed, 1:13:38.920 --> 1:13:40.799 we see Eve and all this ship. 1:13:40.640 --> 1:13:42.599 Like so we out there and we're seeing like bitches, 1:13:42.760 --> 1:13:44.960 like you know, like rap bitches, and they fuck with me. 1:13:45.000 --> 1:13:46.320 I got to you know, I got to wreck it 1:13:46.360 --> 1:13:48.840 out that super Doug was killing them. So I'm thinking 1:13:48.920 --> 1:13:49.320 it's love. 1:13:49.479 --> 1:13:50.240 It's not love. 1:13:50.600 --> 1:13:52.840 A nigga Dmxican came to my man, this is one 1:13:52.880 --> 1:13:57.120 hundredercent real story. He said, the dogs got. 1:13:56.960 --> 1:13:58.040 To watch the dog. 1:13:59.600 --> 1:14:02.240 So if the dogs is with the dogs, then the 1:14:02.400 --> 1:14:07.519 dogs ain't gonna month try the dog. So if the 1:14:07.600 --> 1:14:10.719 dogs always around the dogs, the dogs stay with the dogs, 1:14:10.760 --> 1:14:11.400 and a dog. 1:14:11.280 --> 1:14:15.160 Can never come around by itself. The nigga gave them 1:14:15.160 --> 1:14:17.080 my people's five. As soon as he walk away. 1:14:17.120 --> 1:14:18.960 I'm like, this nigga certified crazy. 1:14:20.880 --> 1:14:25.160 My man from the Bronx twenty two Ronald Joining is 1:14:25.200 --> 1:14:26.679 his real name. Twenty two is my brother. 1:14:27.240 --> 1:14:29.320 He said, understood everything I said. 1:14:29.360 --> 1:14:34.200 What he said he said, he said, look like the 1:14:34.360 --> 1:14:37.479 rappers the target make and then me and Poem Poem 1:14:37.520 --> 1:14:40.280 reached the jag. I rented a Porsch and then we 1:14:40.360 --> 1:14:43.599 rented like a fifteen passenger van and stay behind us 1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:46.639 real me. So the dog said, make sure the dogs 1:14:46.880 --> 1:14:49.360 is always around the dog. Don't never let the dog 1:14:49.840 --> 1:14:53.040 come out by himself, which meanings, don't let the nigga 1:14:53.160 --> 1:14:55.880 walk by herself. Like it doesn't matter, like nor Reay 1:14:55.920 --> 1:14:57.600 is a real nigga. Poem is a real nigga. But 1:14:57.640 --> 1:15:00.680 they got jury on. That's what it's gonna tracked to them, 1:15:01.040 --> 1:15:02.760 you know what I mean. Like I was like wow 1:15:02.880 --> 1:15:05.920 when I deciphered it, I was like, this niggas mad smart, 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:10.080 Like he's super smarter than they give him credit for. 1:15:10.240 --> 1:15:12.280 Then people give him credit for like you know what 1:15:12.320 --> 1:15:13.559 I'm saying, and super hood. 1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:19.320 First of all, I want to thank you man. 1:15:19.439 --> 1:15:21.320 You know what I'm saying, hey, yo, man, this was 1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:22.400 a long podcast. 1:15:22.479 --> 1:15:26.240 Yeah no, no, no, it could have been longer longer. 1:15:29.000 --> 1:15:30.280 You already say you're not coming back. 1:15:30.760 --> 1:15:33.120 You gotta call this ship like the Bible or some ship. 1:15:33.240 --> 1:15:36.639 You got to like that, chapters of the Fact Bible, 1:15:36.760 --> 1:15:37.479 the Found Bible. 1:15:37.560 --> 1:15:41.720 Let's go in here for back before you bounce. I 1:15:41.800 --> 1:15:44.720 got something personal, please, this is personal ship. 1:15:45.479 --> 1:15:48.479 So you know, as Latinos, we grow up and we grasping, 1:15:48.560 --> 1:15:51.439 like we said, Hotel Luis, gotcha, were grasping onto that 1:15:52.120 --> 1:15:55.759 as Latinos so and then as Latinos, then we sub 1:15:56.280 --> 1:15:59.920 grasp I'm Cuban, I'm Puerto Rican, I'm Dominican. 1:16:00.080 --> 1:16:02.439 Then we're trying to find those cats in the game. 1:16:03.360 --> 1:16:06.200 So you but then I find out, let me find out, 1:16:06.320 --> 1:16:06.920 I'm Cuban. 1:16:08.600 --> 1:16:10.840 Cuban. You should have known that from day one. 1:16:11.160 --> 1:16:13.960 No, I knew that early on, but it wasn't representing 1:16:14.000 --> 1:16:14.320 the music. 1:16:14.439 --> 1:16:17.960 I was like, it's really I don't know how to 1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:19.519 represent Cuban in the music. 1:16:20.120 --> 1:16:22.080 So so what's the story behind that? 1:16:22.200 --> 1:16:23.960 Is my question? Because the only way I like, I 1:16:24.080 --> 1:16:27.439 break it all down to you, right, the only way 1:16:27.479 --> 1:16:29.400 to break it down to you is if we did Cuban. 1:16:29.439 --> 1:16:31.320 We would have to do come on, everybody want you 1:16:31.360 --> 1:16:35.200 to do that? Comet the come on, I'm nigga, Like 1:16:35.280 --> 1:16:38.320 that's what it would be, my nigga. So it's like. 1:16:39.960 --> 1:16:43.120 It is it likely where you grew. 1:16:43.040 --> 1:16:47.479 Up what happened is my father's Cuban, my mother's Puerto Rican. 1:16:48.000 --> 1:16:52.160 My Cuban side of my family was from Miami. Was 1:16:52.240 --> 1:16:54.639 from like Jersey. They was from Jersey then they moved 1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:57.839 to Miami. So I grew up with the Puerto Ricans mostly, 1:16:58.160 --> 1:17:00.360 like really with the Puerto Ricans, with my mother, my 1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:02.680 father and everything. But I never denied that I was 1:17:02.840 --> 1:17:06.080 Cuban in any way, shape or form. But I screamed 1:17:06.120 --> 1:17:10.960 Puerto Rico so loud that Cubans didn't see it. But 1:17:11.120 --> 1:17:13.640 if you go back to nineteen ninety three when I 1:17:13.760 --> 1:17:16.360 came out and you read, hey there's a new rapper 1:17:16.479 --> 1:17:23.400 on this set, he's Puerto Rican and Cuban from day one. No, 1:17:23.560 --> 1:17:26.760 no go catch it the internet. 1:17:26.439 --> 1:17:28.040 Somebody like for example Kell. 1:17:28.320 --> 1:17:31.160 Like Curious George when he said I'm half Castro, half whatever, 1:17:31.320 --> 1:17:32.120 like he said. 1:17:31.960 --> 1:17:33.679 It in the line and I didn't know what he meant. 1:17:33.880 --> 1:17:35.320 No, I knew it because I'm Cuban. 1:17:35.400 --> 1:17:39.519 And when Tim was saying Cuban Spanish like they was 1:17:39.840 --> 1:17:41.000 Cyper Cuban. 1:17:40.960 --> 1:17:44.880 Yes, and I thought there was Mexican George. I thought 1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:45.080 he was. 1:17:45.280 --> 1:17:47.400 I'm originally from the same hood as Cyper So, I'm 1:17:47.400 --> 1:17:50.839 originally from La So. But when they were speaking Spanish 1:17:51.240 --> 1:17:53.639 and they had that song, I forget the Latin Lingua. 1:17:53.680 --> 1:17:55.600 There wasn't Latin linguals the other record on the on 1:17:55.680 --> 1:17:58.800 their album to that Sekies they were saying sing guy 1:17:58.960 --> 1:17:59.720 and this and that, and. 1:17:59.760 --> 1:18:03.200 It was like, you're Cuban, like we knew it as Cubans. 1:18:03.280 --> 1:18:06.519 I'm like, well, the Mexican they killed making news, I 1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:10.679 just found out that the Cuban h yeah, it was Mexican. 1:18:12.400 --> 1:18:16.200 Mel Man was was Cuban? You Cuba? 1:18:20.640 --> 1:18:23.600 His brother is s dog and then be real, I 1:18:23.640 --> 1:18:25.200 think he's half Cuban half Mexican. 1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:31.519 I think, Well, me personally, I get a little I'm 1:18:31.600 --> 1:18:35.360 glad we had this conversation, but I get slightly offended 1:18:35.840 --> 1:18:40.040 because I know I've been representing the Cubans since even 1:18:40.160 --> 1:18:42.680 even I saw me and you had I've been representing 1:18:42.760 --> 1:18:46.439 Cuban since day one. So my thing is, well, document 1:18:46.800 --> 1:18:49.240 meant it like if you go back to my interviews 1:18:49.280 --> 1:18:53.400 from day one to be like father Cuban, mother Puerto Rican, right, 1:18:53.600 --> 1:18:56.160 But I did grow up with my Puerto Rican side more. 1:18:58.439 --> 1:19:02.120 Uh so I always rapped Cuban. I have brothers and 1:19:02.200 --> 1:19:05.320 sisters from Cuba. I brought back nine brothers and sisters 1:19:05.360 --> 1:19:10.080 from Cuba over here. You know, I don't even know 1:19:10.120 --> 1:19:12.479 how they think. While they were there, I was supporting them, 1:19:12.520 --> 1:19:15.320 building homes for them niggas so they can live, like 1:19:15.479 --> 1:19:16.160 you can't keep. 1:19:16.080 --> 1:19:16.720 It really than me. 1:19:16.840 --> 1:19:20.960 My father's Cuban, the worst kind of Cuban you can have. 1:19:21.360 --> 1:19:24.920 Like he'll argue with you politically for ten hours, like 1:19:26.000 --> 1:19:29.120 you know my family. So you know, I always bucked 1:19:29.160 --> 1:19:31.040 out when I bumped into a Cuban and they was 1:19:31.120 --> 1:19:32.719 telling me like, yo, I ain't know you was Cuban. 1:19:32.760 --> 1:19:34.560 I was like, so you I see that early on 1:19:34.840 --> 1:19:38.160 Like there, I was like, you ain't paying attention. You 1:19:38.240 --> 1:19:41.080 ain't paying attention, maybe not when you said it originally 1:19:41.240 --> 1:19:42.479 ninety let's just say. 1:19:44.320 --> 1:19:46.360 So you know you met, like why we didn't say 1:19:46.439 --> 1:19:53.080 Cuban called Cuban link, right, but Cuban link. He wanted 1:19:53.160 --> 1:19:55.640 to rap Cubans and you ain't really want to hear that. 1:19:56.800 --> 1:19:58.680 You really ain't want to hear. Come on, everybody want 1:19:58.720 --> 1:20:01.320 you to do that. If we would have let that 1:20:01.439 --> 1:20:04.479 nigga got and we would have let that nigga go, 1:20:04.680 --> 1:20:09.599 either threw on the guire nigga, we tell a squad 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:15.320 soft bron killing niggas, like stop. He really wanted to 1:20:15.400 --> 1:20:17.519 be the first pit bull, to be honest with you, 1:20:18.960 --> 1:20:23.280 he wanted the shirt. He wanted to do that bad 1:20:24.040 --> 1:20:25.840 and we was like, yo, my nigga, we killed nig 1:20:25.960 --> 1:20:28.760 I remember me, And pun used to argue with this thing, Yo, 1:20:28.880 --> 1:20:29.920 what the fuck you doing? 1:20:30.040 --> 1:20:30.479 What is this? 1:20:30.680 --> 1:20:34.000 But you know we can't. We made music for everybody, 1:20:35.000 --> 1:20:38.240 so you gotta you gotta know that we make music 1:20:38.320 --> 1:20:43.800 for everybody. So hip hop itself is a subculture of 1:20:43.960 --> 1:20:48.160 sub religion, right. I don't really get offended when white 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:51.160 people say, nigga, that's a hip hop fan. I really 1:20:51.200 --> 1:20:55.639 don't because they white niggas, but because hip hop is one, 1:20:56.439 --> 1:21:00.840 you know what, it's like a religion. I don't feel like, 1:21:01.760 --> 1:21:05.400 you know, a motherfucker, you gotta be Spanish, you gotta 1:21:05.479 --> 1:21:09.600 be black, you gotta be white, you gotta be Chinese, 1:21:10.080 --> 1:21:12.880 you gotta be I just feel like be proud of 1:21:12.960 --> 1:21:16.400 who you are, rap who you are, but make music 1:21:16.479 --> 1:21:19.760 for everybody. And that's some of the problems we've had 1:21:19.840 --> 1:21:23.960 with Latino rappers. You know what I'm saying. Like me personally, 1:21:24.080 --> 1:21:26.799 I don't know how they ain't more successful Latino rappers 1:21:26.880 --> 1:21:28.960 because we put the blueprint out there. 1:21:29.520 --> 1:21:32.840 We've been from the beginning. No, no, no, hip hop is. 1:21:32.880 --> 1:21:35.840 Not black music. It's black and Latino music originally from 1:21:38.240 --> 1:21:42.240 not that's not the discussion. I'm saying Fat Joe Big 1:21:42.439 --> 1:21:48.559 pun Nor. We put the blueprints Cypress, like, of course Cypress, 1:21:48.640 --> 1:21:51.080 but I'm saying Cypress. So what I'm saying that we 1:21:51.200 --> 1:21:54.320 took dead blueprint right like just keep it real. But 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:57.719 it's out there. So what's the excuse is Cipus Hills. 1:21:57.760 --> 1:22:00.599 They performing for white people, black people trying to how 1:22:00.640 --> 1:22:03.280 can I kill a man? A nigga want to come. 1:22:03.880 --> 1:22:06.320 I ain't want to make straight Latino music. I sit down, 1:22:06.560 --> 1:22:10.280 especially West Coast Latino rappers, whenever I sat down with 1:22:10.360 --> 1:22:12.080 them and I have one on one with them, because 1:22:12.080 --> 1:22:14.280 I always want to give niggas knowledge. I sit down 1:22:14.280 --> 1:22:17.680 and be like, Yo, Poppy, I know you Mexican. We 1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:23.639 want you to rap Mexican, but make music for everybody. Nah, 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:26.479 but you gotta be the biggest nigga. I mean, I 1:22:26.560 --> 1:22:30.679 think if there was a fly, handsome Mexican nigga spitting 1:22:30.800 --> 1:22:35.799 that shit, just spitting that shit. Black girls, white girls, 1:22:36.000 --> 1:22:40.040 everything would fucking love this nigga. You understand what I'm saying. 1:22:40.080 --> 1:22:42.960 So it couldn't. It shouldn't be a barrier. You shouldn't. 1:22:43.880 --> 1:22:47.720 You shouldn't enclose yourself to a certain category. And that's 1:22:47.800 --> 1:22:51.160 how you know. I always approached the game. And me also, 1:22:51.320 --> 1:22:54.519 I came from a neighborhood that was ninety nine point 1:22:54.680 --> 1:22:59.400 nine percent black. So it's so imagined. If you see 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:04.400 a pack of black lions or black panthers in the 1:23:04.520 --> 1:23:09.240 in the jungle, and this nigga non stopped calling. Bro, 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:12.960 you see a pack of black panthers and you see 1:23:13.040 --> 1:23:16.280 one white panther with them. That was always fat Jump. 1:23:16.800 --> 1:23:21.320 Her story was only one only Spanish white nigga with 1:23:21.479 --> 1:23:24.680 blond hair, with five hundred black niggas just walking through. 1:23:25.000 --> 1:23:26.880 And he was the only Puerto Rican and I was 1:23:26.920 --> 1:23:28.639 the only queen's dude in the Bronx. 1:23:29.040 --> 1:23:31.760 Like people not people used to be like, why are 1:23:31.880 --> 1:23:36.200 you here? I used to be like, why are you sure, 1:23:36.240 --> 1:23:39.240 you old king minutes away? 1:23:39.960 --> 1:23:42.559 I'm just ten minut Like what the fuck was he doing? 1:23:43.520 --> 1:23:43.680 Now? 1:23:44.479 --> 1:23:47.000 But now that's just the way. That's the way I 1:23:47.160 --> 1:23:49.920 was raised. So I was raised raised in the community 1:23:50.520 --> 1:23:53.679 where it was all black, you know what I'm saying. 1:23:53.840 --> 1:23:58.200 So it was like, you know, like I consider myself 1:23:58.280 --> 1:24:01.679 black too. Like as weird as it sounds, I'm proud 1:24:01.720 --> 1:24:04.839 to be Latino. I'm waved the in the black delegation 1:24:04.960 --> 1:24:06.960 to worry about it, you know what I'm saying. I'm 1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:11.559 serious fact, like I'm black. It's weird because I tell 1:24:11.680 --> 1:24:13.599 black people that all the time and they'll be like, yo, 1:24:13.640 --> 1:24:15.640 what do you mean, Like, nigga, I'm black nigga. Like 1:24:15.680 --> 1:24:17.920 with you, I'm blacker than you because you want to 1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:22.200 be a black white guy. I'm stand this black nigga. 1:24:23.760 --> 1:24:29.599 You understand what I'm saying. Hell yeah, it's Harvard black nigga. Nigga. 1:24:29.600 --> 1:24:32.200 I'm black nigga. To me, I had it worse because 1:24:32.600 --> 1:24:34.560 like I would hang out with the with the with 1:24:34.640 --> 1:24:36.800 the black people. Then I would go with the war 1:24:36.960 --> 1:24:40.000 Ricans and they like cocola and on. Then I had 1:24:40.000 --> 1:24:40.960 to go to God. 1:24:41.160 --> 1:24:42.720 Then I gotta go with the black people, and they 1:24:42.840 --> 1:24:45.760 got their respects and all, and it's like. 1:24:45.840 --> 1:24:49.200 And you in the middle, in the middle, like I'm 1:24:49.280 --> 1:24:51.479 going to no, no, no, I want to tell your 1:24:51.560 --> 1:24:53.200 story the lat Kings, right. 1:24:53.800 --> 1:25:00.320 I mean yes, a fa, I mean jai super, I 1:25:00.400 --> 1:25:02.719 mean I'm in jail, right, the Latin case. 1:25:03.280 --> 1:25:07.840 They they doing some ship for the dentists. Right, I'm 1:25:07.920 --> 1:25:11.200 in jail right. What they're doing for the dentists, know 1:25:12.000 --> 1:25:12.559 what they're doing. 1:25:13.560 --> 1:25:18.400 No, they're fucking they're recruiting every Spanish person in the unit. 1:25:19.200 --> 1:25:21.680 But what they're doing is saying that you got to 1:25:21.760 --> 1:25:24.240 go to the dentists in jail. 1:25:24.520 --> 1:25:24.680 Right. 1:25:25.640 --> 1:25:28.920 So these dudes come and they're like Victor Santiago. 1:25:29.840 --> 1:25:32.040 So I stand up for the people who don't know 1:25:32.200 --> 1:25:35.640 that's that's my name, super Porto Rican, right. 1:25:36.760 --> 1:25:39.200 So I stood up and the dude's like not you 1:25:39.360 --> 1:25:41.240 got you? So I sat back down. 1:25:42.680 --> 1:25:45.519 Then they go Victor Santiago and I'm like, yo, I'm 1:25:45.520 --> 1:25:46.640 not gonna keep standing up. 1:25:48.080 --> 1:25:53.439 And then they're like but not you, not you right time. 1:25:53.920 --> 1:25:57.200 Like I'm like, yo, I'm not standing up again. They're like, 1:25:57.439 --> 1:26:02.120 you're Victor Ctiago. That's my name. So like the guard 1:26:02.520 --> 1:26:04.320 the sea. Old nigga was down with he was a 1:26:04.400 --> 1:26:08.960 Latin kings king. So they pulled me in the dentist. 1:26:09.080 --> 1:26:12.960 Niggas put all raises to me, like, yo, you Cuban. 1:26:13.240 --> 1:26:19.320 I'm like no, they're like Dominican. I'm like no, They're like, 1:26:19.800 --> 1:26:21.600 what the fuck are you? Why the fuck is. 1:26:21.640 --> 1:26:25.760 Your name Victor Santiago. So I'm like, yo, I'm for 1:26:25.920 --> 1:26:29.760 the Weekend in Black. They're like, dang, I can't really 1:26:29.840 --> 1:26:35.559 be down with us, they said, but they. 1:26:35.560 --> 1:26:37.600 Got the raisins to me. I can't do nothing. They 1:26:37.720 --> 1:26:39.719 actually set me up where like you know, you're sitting 1:26:41.200 --> 1:26:41.719 k mos. 1:26:41.760 --> 1:26:44.920 I'm like, they said, so this is what we're gonna do. 1:26:45.680 --> 1:26:48.320 We're gonna make you a gnat. I had never heard. 1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:53.880 They said we're gonna make you ant because they they 1:26:53.960 --> 1:26:58.400 see my sheet. My sheet was clean fish. But I'm trapped. 1:26:58.400 --> 1:27:01.560 There's nothing I can do, doesn't matter with guy to 1:27:01.600 --> 1:27:02.200 get out of there. 1:27:02.400 --> 1:27:04.560 So they're like, we're gonna make you a nut and 1:27:04.640 --> 1:27:07.280 I say, yo, my dude, I'm that new truth. People 1:27:07.960 --> 1:27:10.400 like I'm both. I can't listen. 1:27:10.560 --> 1:27:17.439 I go to the yard. I love handball. I'm sorry, 1:27:18.360 --> 1:27:20.880 I'm nice. Pun Pun beat me a handball one. 1:27:21.040 --> 1:27:23.479 No, I never hated you. 1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:26.479 Never never listen, beat you a handball. 1:27:26.920 --> 1:27:29.479 In his death like yo, I had to get my rematch, 1:27:30.040 --> 1:27:31.720 like like when he died, I was like, Yo, I 1:27:31.800 --> 1:27:32.880 needed my rematch. 1:27:33.080 --> 1:27:36.240 Like you know, fat niggas is the best niggas in handball. 1:27:37.320 --> 1:27:38.320 I don't know if you know that. 1:27:39.920 --> 1:27:40.360 Kills the game. 1:27:40.439 --> 1:27:43.360 No Edi gigs the fact that he's greater than me 1:27:43.439 --> 1:27:47.160 and you. We played handballer. We got serious at one point, just. 1:27:47.320 --> 1:27:48.040 Came out of jail. 1:27:48.120 --> 1:27:51.600 The nigga don't said, Yo, we gotta play hamble and 1:27:51.720 --> 1:27:53.160 we went somewhere out here. 1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:55.120 See, people don't know this about me. 1:27:55.240 --> 1:27:58.559 I'm actually I thought I was a handball expert until 1:27:58.680 --> 1:28:02.719 like anybody that like like pun beat me an amble, 1:28:02.800 --> 1:28:04.640 I never like, oh, I. 1:28:04.720 --> 1:28:06.400 Never actually forgave him. 1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:10.000 Superhuman even in death. 1:28:10.080 --> 1:28:13.000 I'm like, I still need like like a god bless 1:28:13.040 --> 1:28:16.000 because you know, hopefully you know whatever. But when we 1:28:16.120 --> 1:28:18.080 see each other and happen, that's probably the first thing 1:28:18.080 --> 1:28:27.000 I'm gonna say to him. Rematch this how I was 1:28:27.000 --> 1:28:32.880 gonna go a love you house heaven rematched? All right, 1:28:32.920 --> 1:28:35.680 So listen that being said, we're all we all latinos. 1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:39.000 I want to end it on who's your favorite Latino 1:28:39.160 --> 1:28:43.160 besides Pun, besides Norri, besides Joe, because it will be unfair. 1:28:43.880 --> 1:28:47.400 So my favorite Latino who hit me? 1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:51.360 Kid Frost. 1:28:53.600 --> 1:28:54.680 And I heard this is what. 1:28:56.479 --> 1:28:59.799 You thought? He was dope different. 1:29:01.880 --> 1:29:04.160 I'm sorry, pick up the school Devil. 1:29:05.040 --> 1:29:08.840 His Scoop Deville is a legendary, but I say Scoop Devil, 1:29:09.560 --> 1:29:12.320 but my favorite. I knew Kid Fraud since I started. 1:29:12.360 --> 1:29:14.719 He was on Relativity to get out of there. 1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:16.040 And uneasy label. 1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:22.840 Yeah, I couldn't ruthless, and then I couldn't really you 1:29:22.920 --> 1:29:25.280 can't get what you're from now because he was like 1:29:25.479 --> 1:29:27.360 I met the real kid Frauds. 1:29:27.080 --> 1:29:31.880 And I was just like, different person. We don't know 1:29:32.000 --> 1:29:34.320 this story. He was trying to let you go, but 1:29:34.439 --> 1:29:42.720 now you got it. You already, it's already you gotta go. 1:29:42.960 --> 1:29:45.479 I couldn't do that. But all I can say is 1:29:45.560 --> 1:29:49.519 that back to the West Coast, they looking ship different 1:29:49.560 --> 1:29:52.240 than we look at it. So you know what I'm saying, 1:29:52.320 --> 1:29:54.720 I'm hanging out with I'm gonna just see you the 1:29:54.920 --> 1:29:58.240 miniature version of it, because I wouldn't do that. But 1:29:58.760 --> 1:30:01.600 he comes to New York, so I'm like, yo, I 1:30:01.680 --> 1:30:05.439 gotta salute the Mexican homies this. So I take them 1:30:05.479 --> 1:30:10.240 Jimmy's Cafe and we walked down the block. All you know, 1:30:10.400 --> 1:30:12.640 as we're walking out, everybody like, yo, crack, what's up 1:30:12.720 --> 1:30:15.080 my nigga? Your crack? What's up? What's up? Soup? So 1:30:15.160 --> 1:30:17.720 I'm walking, I'm dapping everybody. And we walked like half 1:30:17.760 --> 1:30:20.400 a block and he says, Yo, Joe, can they talk 1:30:20.439 --> 1:30:23.920 to you owns not kid frauds. I'm with them. I 1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:27.080 got them in New York, feeding them. Will we chilling brothers? 1:30:29.200 --> 1:30:30.800 Do they funk with the black guys? 1:30:31.880 --> 1:30:33.080 That's that's the problem. 1:30:33.280 --> 1:30:37.880 I'm like, I'm like what He's like, No, man, I 1:30:37.960 --> 1:30:39.799 see you're talking to all these guys. 1:30:39.880 --> 1:30:40.639 I'm bugging out. 1:30:40.760 --> 1:30:45.360 I'm like, Yo, no nigga's And that was a once 1:30:45.439 --> 1:30:47.360 in a light. You know, we hung out one time. 1:30:47.400 --> 1:30:49.960 He probably over there saying, fuck fat Joe Yang out 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:52.960 with the black guys. I couldn't, you know, but you 1:30:53.080 --> 1:30:59.040 know I couldn't. Ah, Spanish dudes that influenced. 1:30:58.560 --> 1:31:02.880 Me will not influence you or even just you think 1:31:02.920 --> 1:31:04.200 that it's hard or. 1:31:04.280 --> 1:31:10.160 Hot, the hardest niggas ever, the hardest niggas ever, Somebody 1:31:10.200 --> 1:31:12.800 who impressed me? Can I say to yeah, you can't, 1:31:13.040 --> 1:31:15.880 and I always say him. But somebody who impressed me 1:31:15.920 --> 1:31:17.960 at a young age who was a fly nigga was 1:31:18.840 --> 1:31:22.080 Teeto from the Pheelis four And the rumors I used 1:31:22.120 --> 1:31:23.760 to hear about him when I was a young kid 1:31:23.960 --> 1:31:26.519 was like he was getting money. He was a flying nigga, 1:31:26.560 --> 1:31:29.439 fucking all the bad bitches and the Phelis four was, 1:31:29.640 --> 1:31:32.599 you know, an amazing rap crew. He's somebody I looked 1:31:32.680 --> 1:31:34.840 up to even to this day when I see him. 1:31:34.760 --> 1:31:36.880 And be like, Yo, ain't gonna we gotta make noise 1:31:36.960 --> 1:31:39.040 for Joe being super hip hop on his first pick. 1:31:41.760 --> 1:31:47.240 Somebody like what the the fearless for niggas? Tito from 1:31:47.280 --> 1:31:50.240 the Philis four boys, Like he was a fly nigga. 1:31:50.320 --> 1:31:51.600 You're a real hip hop bro. 1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:57.000 Just you just really showed the world saw acause niggas 1:31:57.000 --> 1:31:59.759 is googles and then google that nigga. 1:32:00.439 --> 1:32:02.280 And I'm gonna tell you a secret. Right when we 1:32:02.479 --> 1:32:08.200 was shooting the video, John Blaze and Queen's we were 1:32:08.240 --> 1:32:08.720 shooting it. 1:32:09.080 --> 1:32:09.960 John Blaize, I was there. 1:32:09.960 --> 1:32:13.439 It was in Brooklyn, in Brooklyn, green Point, Greenpoint, So 1:32:13.680 --> 1:32:14.800 it was Pun's birth. 1:32:14.880 --> 1:32:16.880 You listen me and NAS's beefing. 1:32:17.680 --> 1:32:18.400 Do you remember this? 1:32:19.400 --> 1:32:24.720 Me and beefing and you called me to scotch the 1:32:24.760 --> 1:32:25.519 beef for nons? 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:26.240 Do you remember that? 1:32:27.160 --> 1:32:30.519 And that's why when Nina's verse plays, I'm the only 1:32:30.600 --> 1:32:33.760 person that's in the verse with Nins because I think 1:32:33.760 --> 1:32:34.880 I hung out with car Maga. 1:32:35.080 --> 1:32:37.800 Some bullshit happens when you love. 1:32:38.120 --> 1:32:40.439 So he goes like to yeah, Nas love, he's a 1:32:40.479 --> 1:32:43.800 special guy too. So no, he's a special guy. 1:32:44.479 --> 1:32:47.679 So and me and I stopped talking and you called. 1:32:47.479 --> 1:32:51.120 Me and was squashed its brother, so we so we 1:32:51.280 --> 1:32:56.600 turned around and this is real ship. Yeah, now we 1:32:56.680 --> 1:32:58.479 gave him too much rep show. 1:32:59.080 --> 1:32:59.920 This is two seconds. 1:33:00.280 --> 1:33:03.680 Tito from the Phillis four came out of nowhere to 1:33:03.840 --> 1:33:06.040 the video and he had a cake. He knew it 1:33:06.160 --> 1:33:11.439 was Pun's birthday. He never met Pun John Blaine. So 1:33:11.560 --> 1:33:14.080 he comes in the trailer and he gets it. He 1:33:14.200 --> 1:33:17.360 brings out a cake and the nigga pulls out a 1:33:17.400 --> 1:33:22.000 bunch of hundred dollars bills and put him like candles 1:33:22.080 --> 1:33:26.240 on the cake. This Tito philis, he wasn't even a 1:33:26.400 --> 1:33:28.920 rapper no more, like you know, he was beyond the 1:33:29.000 --> 1:33:31.120 old ge crazy. 1:33:31.240 --> 1:33:33.360 They'll get money threw up the Hunters name of the 1:33:33.400 --> 1:33:35.080 record that we're doing. By the way, still of course 1:33:35.120 --> 1:33:36.000 still getting money. 1:33:35.880 --> 1:33:43.240 Right, your man, listen, your man turned around and I'm 1:33:43.320 --> 1:33:45.479 explaining the putn of what it is, and it's Tito. 1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:48.479 He's the rich. Didn't didn't really knowing, So I go 1:33:48.600 --> 1:33:50.960 like this, your ponies like the nigga, the first nigga. 1:33:51.040 --> 1:33:54.880 This this dad fly Spanish nigga. Tito lit up all 1:33:54.920 --> 1:33:57.200 the fucking hundred dollars bills and Punk blew it out. 1:33:57.280 --> 1:33:59.960 We ate the cake. Tito's a stand up guy. Man, 1:34:00.040 --> 1:34:03.360 he's a beautiful person. You said too, And I gotta 1:34:03.439 --> 1:34:07.320 give it to Cypress Hills because we both. 1:34:07.160 --> 1:34:08.719 Gave in to the West Coast. I'm sorry. I didn't 1:34:08.720 --> 1:34:10.760 know Kid Frost to think about it, but I'm still 1:34:11.560 --> 1:34:12.599 Cypress Cuban too. 1:34:12.640 --> 1:34:18.360 And anyway, except Kid Frost, and he is representing the Ross. 1:34:18.880 --> 1:34:20.840 I love it because because you know why, you know, 1:34:21.840 --> 1:34:23.040 I actually understand it. 1:34:23.080 --> 1:34:23.320 I did. 1:34:23.520 --> 1:34:26.200 I did a movie. It's a horror flick called Seven Mummies. 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:27.479 I don't recommend you see it. 1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:30.040 I did it. 1:34:30.479 --> 1:34:34.800 Question rember Nick questioned the first two videos I ever 1:34:34.840 --> 1:34:35.479 shot in my life. 1:34:35.520 --> 1:34:37.479 He shot it so you felt Lowyer was l a 1:34:37.600 --> 1:34:38.560 l ay. 1:34:38.760 --> 1:34:42.800 So he he told me to come to Arizona. I did, uh, 1:34:42.960 --> 1:34:45.400 noel G from training Jade training day. 1:34:45.680 --> 1:34:48.439 No, no, don't say no more niggas, the mummy niggas 1:34:48.520 --> 1:34:50.240 get fucked up. 1:34:51.000 --> 1:34:51.880 Ain't fun. 1:34:52.040 --> 1:34:54.639 And then and then they killed me like I played 1:34:54.680 --> 1:34:57.760 the black guy in the horror, Like my favorite role 1:34:57.920 --> 1:35:01.320 is paid in for when it comes over to the car, you. 1:35:01.360 --> 1:35:05.559 Know, I freest out that whole not oh man legend, 1:35:06.320 --> 1:35:07.880 garry wrong. 1:35:10.040 --> 1:35:11.960 I was like your Samuel Jackson moment. 1:35:12.040 --> 1:35:15.120 But actually I mean, we'll go there. We'll go there. 1:35:15.160 --> 1:35:18.720 So look, so noel G noel G me and him 1:35:18.800 --> 1:35:21.720 got mad cool like I'm talking about like he hung 1:35:21.800 --> 1:35:24.600 out my trailer. I hung out in his trailer. And 1:35:25.560 --> 1:35:27.920 he's from East I'm gonna say East New York, East 1:35:28.080 --> 1:35:30.800 l A. So I flew to l A one time. 1:35:30.880 --> 1:35:32.320 I was like, Yo, I want to go to your hood. 1:35:32.840 --> 1:35:34.600 He was like he had to keep it real with me. 1:35:34.760 --> 1:35:41.280 He was like, nah, you know, I go any hood, Joe, 1:35:41.400 --> 1:35:42.799 East New York, pink houses. 1:35:42.960 --> 1:35:45.280 I don't give a fuck. But when the person that's 1:35:45.280 --> 1:35:47.000 supposed to bring you there says. 1:35:47.200 --> 1:35:51.720 They gotta have you, na, like they can hold you 1:35:52.040 --> 1:35:55.680 said your skin color, He said, I've seen them kill Mexicans. 1:35:56.120 --> 1:35:59.920 That skin is darker than yards. That's what he said. 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:01.720 You know that's prison politics. 1:36:01.880 --> 1:36:07.000 No, but l a prison politics run. It's sill streets. 1:36:07.560 --> 1:36:09.720 Not in the black community, no, no, no, all over 1:36:09.800 --> 1:36:12.560 the community. So that that fucked me up when I 1:36:12.680 --> 1:36:15.880 realized that for me, but paid it for. To get 1:36:15.960 --> 1:36:22.000 back to that, I actually auditioned for alcohol and I 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:26.560 didn't get it. Wood Harris, who was the person I 1:36:26.640 --> 1:36:29.679 spoke to and paid for who played a z with Harris. 1:36:30.720 --> 1:36:33.120 He came to me and he and he tried to 1:36:33.160 --> 1:36:36.479 prep me for the audition role. And when he prepped 1:36:36.479 --> 1:36:41.680 me for the audition, I took it too serious. You know, 1:36:41.720 --> 1:36:44.400 I got I got a fucking real actor sitting there 1:36:44.479 --> 1:36:46.160 telling me what to do and what to do. And 1:36:46.240 --> 1:36:48.479 I tried to do it too. I actually I did 1:36:48.560 --> 1:36:52.000 eight movies. I never got any movie from an audition. 1:36:53.080 --> 1:37:01.280 If you got in front of the camera, I'm I'm good. 1:37:01.560 --> 1:37:04.080 I'm whack on that. If you just say y'all want 1:37:04.160 --> 1:37:06.640 Fato in this movie, I'm great, great, I'm gonna do. 1:37:06.680 --> 1:37:07.080 I'm gonna do. 1:37:07.320 --> 1:37:07.960 I'm gonna do it. 1:37:08.240 --> 1:37:10.200 But I never read my lines like I read them, 1:37:10.520 --> 1:37:12.479 I memorize them because I'm God Body, like you know 1:37:12.520 --> 1:37:12.960 what I'm saying. 1:37:13.320 --> 1:37:16.920 So I memorize them and then I change them. 1:37:17.000 --> 1:37:19.519 Because the thing about God Body, if you if you 1:37:19.640 --> 1:37:22.640 really realize that after you master your one twenty, you 1:37:22.720 --> 1:37:24.280 got to master your plus degrees. 1:37:24.800 --> 1:37:27.200 So to me, that's what always with hip hop was. 1:37:27.320 --> 1:37:30.400 To me, it was a plus degree. It was is 1:37:30.479 --> 1:37:32.320 this five percent we went from. 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:38.880 You just at first listen everything he wants to believe 1:37:38.960 --> 1:37:39.599 in every coach. 1:37:40.479 --> 1:37:42.600 You know, it's too it's too late for me to 1:37:42.680 --> 1:37:44.600 go emphatically non sight for. 1:37:44.680 --> 1:37:47.519 You can't do it. You can in today's Master. 1:37:48.600 --> 1:37:49.760 I'm from Godsville. 1:37:51.120 --> 1:37:54.320 They called your hood Guardsville, they call my hood City, 1:37:54.520 --> 1:37:55.200 they call my hood. 1:37:55.640 --> 1:38:01.840 Was God's veil left the gold right? Why not New 1:38:01.920 --> 1:38:09.320 York from Kendall, Guys, you wasn't in Kendo. 1:38:10.479 --> 1:38:12.280 One of the two niggas snuck down there? 1:38:12.360 --> 1:38:17.080 Man, they did, but Cypress Hills because they did it big. 1:38:17.920 --> 1:38:21.360 And I remember when I first saw them, I thought 1:38:21.400 --> 1:38:25.360 they was from New York. My nigga. They shot their 1:38:25.439 --> 1:38:25.800 video in. 1:38:25.800 --> 1:38:29.280 The New York Tube. In the video from the video was. 1:38:29.320 --> 1:38:33.000 That killing shot in front of the. 1:38:33.120 --> 1:38:36.720 Pollo and everything, and everybody was discussing that are they 1:38:36.800 --> 1:38:37.320 from New York? 1:38:37.360 --> 1:38:39.120 Are they from l A? Where then are they from? 1:38:39.360 --> 1:38:41.680 Them niggas is like like that, and they was in 1:38:41.720 --> 1:38:45.760 the wood Cypress Hill Kill in l A. 1:38:46.120 --> 1:38:53.960 God Queens no no no q tips in that video too. 1:38:54.040 --> 1:38:55.000 I think my. 1:38:55.120 --> 1:38:57.479 Nigga, I thought them niggas was from New York. But 1:38:57.640 --> 1:38:59.680 I'm not going to tell you I looked up to 1:38:59.760 --> 1:39:02.479 them because they was from New York. I'm just telling 1:39:02.520 --> 1:39:06.559 you I want to get high, so. 1:39:08.360 --> 1:39:11.160 Them niggas was right, and I don't even get hot. 1:39:12.200 --> 1:39:15.920 Niggas was rocking my nigga like like like, I ain't 1:39:15.920 --> 1:39:18.120 even gonna lie. To this day, I probably look up 1:39:18.200 --> 1:39:21.800 to Cypress Hill still because I just feel like they 1:39:21.920 --> 1:39:23.800 really put it down the way I like it to 1:39:23.960 --> 1:39:24.679 be put down. 1:39:24.800 --> 1:39:32.400 And still to this day, you gotta say you gonna. 1:39:32.200 --> 1:39:34.960 Rapper though, in terms of Latino rapper, yeah, I mean yeah, 1:39:35.800 --> 1:39:41.559 well Cypress Hills definitely for sure and punk, hands down punk. 1:39:43.720 --> 1:39:47.400 You know we're gonna end this on this well put 1:39:47.479 --> 1:39:49.760 the best Latino rapper ever lived. I'll tell you right 1:39:49.840 --> 1:39:53.040 the bottom line, I'll tell you nobody close real quick. 1:39:53.080 --> 1:39:55.840 When I when I heard when I heard him on Firewater. 1:39:57.200 --> 1:40:05.120 Firewater, it was Men of God Alma Gedding and Okay, 1:40:05.200 --> 1:40:07.400 that's the first came. 1:40:07.760 --> 1:40:11.960 I put that on a mixtape on my mixtape DJ 1:40:12.080 --> 1:40:16.280 in Miami. Nobody Miami, let me tell you, nobody had. 1:40:16.240 --> 1:40:18.840 Ever heard anything I put on a mixtape here Miami, 1:40:19.479 --> 1:40:23.320 and I was like, this dude is fucking killing it. 1:40:24.960 --> 1:40:27.920 I didn't know who he was. I just but then 1:40:27.960 --> 1:40:29.879 I knew. I knew he was Latino. 1:40:29.920 --> 1:40:32.200 I was like, we got one. 1:40:32.479 --> 1:40:36.560 That's it, Yeah, that's it because we be just so 1:40:36.720 --> 1:40:39.960 you know. At that same time, Big L is my favorite. 1:40:39.720 --> 1:40:44.000 Rapper Digging in the Crazy Crew. That's my brother too, 1:40:44.320 --> 1:40:46.640 that's my other favorite rapp Joe was a member of 1:40:46.720 --> 1:40:49.600 two crews with the greatest rappers of old that's my 1:40:49.760 --> 1:40:50.479 other favorite. 1:40:54.439 --> 1:40:59.040 That's where I'm like, this is it, yo, Yeah, we 1:40:59.200 --> 1:40:59.599 got him. 1:41:00.120 --> 1:41:03.240 I've really It's just almost like Chins. 1:41:03.080 --> 1:41:11.240 Chinks Angeles Evangelist, Like God, I know pun was great. 1:41:12.400 --> 1:41:16.000 I didn't know he was the greatest until like after 1:41:17.800 --> 1:41:21.200 after his funeral. I remember me standing there and crying 1:41:21.280 --> 1:41:25.200 at the and God bless the dead. Flex Flexts was 1:41:25.240 --> 1:41:28.080 the one who came and grabbed me because I didn't 1:41:28.080 --> 1:41:29.800 know what to do. Like I still start crying. My 1:41:29.960 --> 1:41:32.720 mother came to the funeral, keep it real without me, 1:41:32.920 --> 1:41:35.280 my mom said, my moms didn't wait for me to come. 1:41:35.320 --> 1:41:36.000 My mother win. 1:41:38.080 --> 1:41:40.920 Man from the boat dagger like crazy. 1:41:41.360 --> 1:41:44.560 It was so crazy because the people who came to 1:41:44.680 --> 1:41:48.519 that funeral, you know, it was like crazy man. Like 1:41:48.640 --> 1:41:52.080 it was like people that from our community that never 1:41:53.040 --> 1:41:55.240 even talked to us. Was like, you know, they were 1:41:55.320 --> 1:41:58.400 so proud they were showing up and you was like, yo, 1:41:58.880 --> 1:42:01.240 that's my school teacher. 1:42:01.479 --> 1:42:01.640 You know. 1:42:02.160 --> 1:42:04.320 So I'm sitting there crying and I walked by my 1:42:04.479 --> 1:42:08.320 school teacher, come and grab me and like, yo, be strong. 1:42:08.680 --> 1:42:11.080 This this that like we touched so many niggas in 1:42:11.120 --> 1:42:12.639 that it was crazy. 1:42:13.160 --> 1:42:15.040 But it was like that too. I never forget too. 1:42:15.080 --> 1:42:16.519 I was at one point I was at points for 1:42:16.520 --> 1:42:20.960 funeral and I was crying and it was Joe Rue 1:42:21.680 --> 1:42:23.479 and I looked up and it was Joe ruh. He 1:42:23.600 --> 1:42:27.040 was there one dep too. He was like be strong, crack, 1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:30.280 don't worry, be strong, and that shit, that pun shit 1:42:30.439 --> 1:42:31.920 was serious, man. 1:42:32.560 --> 1:42:35.120 This is what I remember Flex grabbing me and just 1:42:35.320 --> 1:42:38.559 was like he's not suffering no more. And the crazy shit. 1:42:38.600 --> 1:42:41.880 I never seen Pun suffer. Like when Pun I never said, 1:42:42.040 --> 1:42:44.280 I know, were going too much, but we're gonna stop 1:42:44.360 --> 1:42:46.840 as soon. But when Pun used to have sleep appen, 1:42:46.880 --> 1:42:49.160 he like when he used to go like this, I 1:42:49.280 --> 1:42:51.880 used to think Pun was playing with me, Like God 1:42:51.920 --> 1:42:52.920 bless me because you know. 1:42:53.040 --> 1:42:55.479 Now I know, But back then, I used to be like, damn, 1:42:55.560 --> 1:43:02.320 my fucking stories is boring. People like Yo, we would 1:43:02.360 --> 1:43:03.280 be talking like it was good. 1:43:04.320 --> 1:43:09.799 I'm like, oh, let's just get it on, love glory. 1:43:10.720 --> 1:43:13.880 Pun loved Nori and Uh in a different way, in 1:43:13.960 --> 1:43:17.479 a special way, and them niggas used to hang out. 1:43:17.600 --> 1:43:18.439 They used to chill. 1:43:18.560 --> 1:43:19.840 And we still avoid Joe. 1:43:19.920 --> 1:43:23.160 That's what Joe said, because Joe was always militant, like 1:43:23.280 --> 1:43:28.360 he's always he's to get money, dude, Like that's all 1:43:28.439 --> 1:43:29.800 he thinks about me and Pun. 1:43:29.960 --> 1:43:31.799 We wanted to have fun. We was younger. 1:43:32.200 --> 1:43:34.599 You know what I'm saying. Joe's o G is a fact. 1:43:34.880 --> 1:43:38.040 So we used to be on the road everything like 1:43:38.439 --> 1:43:41.560 and Pun smoked the weed. He drank cars light, you 1:43:41.640 --> 1:43:43.200 know what I mean, Like. 1:43:43.640 --> 1:43:46.840 Like you just started drinking, like really, like you just 1:43:46.880 --> 1:43:50.960 started leisurely drinking. Like he didn't kept that time so serious. 1:43:51.080 --> 1:43:53.760 He was like like every day, like. 1:43:57.240 --> 1:43:59.479 I told my son this to us, said, listen, bro, 1:44:00.360 --> 1:44:03.040 we was born with nothing, my nigga, and if we 1:44:03.160 --> 1:44:06.280 get the opportunity to go get it, let's not stop, nigga, 1:44:06.360 --> 1:44:08.519 Let's just go get it. And we can't make it. 1:44:08.640 --> 1:44:11.760 We gotta go get this fucking money, man, because all 1:44:11.800 --> 1:44:15.160 the times we dreamed about getting money, all the times 1:44:15.240 --> 1:44:17.400 all we wanted was money. Niggas wouldn't give us a 1:44:17.479 --> 1:44:21.599 fucking ice cream. You know, we're starving. We get niggas 1:44:21.640 --> 1:44:24.120 got a chip in for four chicken wings and French fries. 1:44:24.439 --> 1:44:26.600 Now niggas is throwing this money at us, Like what 1:44:26.720 --> 1:44:29.200 the fuck is we supposed to do? Let's go get 1:44:29.280 --> 1:44:33.479 this fucking money, and and and and that's that's that's 1:44:33.720 --> 1:44:35.479 That's what I'm about. Right now, I'm in the car 1:44:35.640 --> 1:44:37.680 my son wrap. I'm in the car with him. I 1:44:37.800 --> 1:44:40.760 bucked on them two minutes before I came here because 1:44:40.760 --> 1:44:43.360 he was like, yo, and Jinny ain't really doing it 1:44:43.479 --> 1:44:46.160 right there. So I'm like, nigga, you fucking crazy, Like 1:44:46.280 --> 1:44:47.880 I'll be wrapping in closets. 1:44:49.680 --> 1:44:53.400 We're gonna end on this. Back in the days, you 1:44:53.520 --> 1:44:55.919 couldn't send a nigga email. 1:44:56.320 --> 1:44:59.200 We had to run around with two inch tapes like this. 1:44:59.640 --> 1:45:01.439 That's it was like carrying a midget. 1:45:04.479 --> 1:45:05.519 Real, yo. 1:45:05.720 --> 1:45:08.519 Still, let me tell you something. I've never been to 1:45:08.600 --> 1:45:10.000 the and this is my engineer right here. 1:45:10.080 --> 1:45:13.760 Hazard it sounds a producer friend, but has I have 1:45:14.040 --> 1:45:16.839 never had a session with you unless I did four records. 1:45:17.040 --> 1:45:19.320 Keep it real, I'm gonna look away, so like I'm 1:45:19.360 --> 1:45:22.240 not giving you no sign and my line at least four. 1:45:23.160 --> 1:45:24.040 At least at. 1:45:24.000 --> 1:45:26.920 Least four because you know why, it's not because but 1:45:27.479 --> 1:45:31.160 back then, spending fifteen hundred dollars on a lockout or 1:45:31.320 --> 1:45:34.360 three thousand dollars on a lockout, I had to do, yo, 1:45:34.880 --> 1:45:37.080 one hundred honest shit, I'm. 1:45:37.000 --> 1:45:38.640 Keeping it real. CNN. 1:45:39.040 --> 1:45:42.360 War Report album was done over two years, but it 1:45:42.479 --> 1:45:47.280 was only like five to seven sessions because we recorded 1:45:47.880 --> 1:45:49.320 eight nine records. 1:45:49.360 --> 1:45:51.800 When we went in there and you know, tragedy put 1:45:51.880 --> 1:45:52.080 us on. 1:45:52.720 --> 1:45:56.160 You had this wave. Man, Your wave is like you know, 1:45:56.360 --> 1:45:59.960 special waves, but what it was niggas man. You could 1:46:00.080 --> 1:46:04.639 do whatever you wanted, No nor you You're funny nigga. 1:46:05.160 --> 1:46:08.400 And then it's like it's like it was like maybe 1:46:08.520 --> 1:46:10.439 he was bugging out, but to us. It was like 1:46:10.680 --> 1:46:16.479 flows we never heard right thigga about the thig I'm 1:46:16.520 --> 1:46:19.439 not what is this nigga saying this ship? 1:46:21.360 --> 1:46:22.160 You know what that came from? 1:46:22.200 --> 1:46:28.200 What was the joint you did? And we gotta gost you. 1:46:28.520 --> 1:46:30.840 What was the joint you did? I think it was 1:46:30.920 --> 1:46:34.439 in the Firm, know this, It. 1:46:34.560 --> 1:46:38.600 Was leaving, I'm leaving, lave you. I can get the 1:46:38.640 --> 1:46:39.920 story of that and then we break out. 1:46:40.439 --> 1:46:45.000 But listen, it goes that is that one, mat know this? 1:46:46.040 --> 1:46:50.120 That's the first, Yeah, because that's the first. 1:46:51.560 --> 1:46:53.760 And it was another one you did for Nods, right, 1:46:53.960 --> 1:46:55.400 was it Nods or Morb Deep? 1:46:55.840 --> 1:47:01.040 It was blood money, blood money, money money, the one 1:47:01.120 --> 1:47:04.720 when we did that during the Firm album, the Funny Ship. 1:47:04.880 --> 1:47:07.320 I'm not gonna lie to you from the outside, and 1:47:07.439 --> 1:47:09.160 I don't know if you don't go ahead tell me 1:47:09.600 --> 1:47:11.960 you was like the illis nigga right there, like like 1:47:12.200 --> 1:47:15.240 right there when they snatched you up because it was 1:47:15.320 --> 1:47:16.360 a big move for you. 1:47:16.920 --> 1:47:20.760 And now I had just shot niggas in the projects too, 1:47:21.160 --> 1:47:23.320 and they was like and I kept hanging out there. 1:47:23.400 --> 1:47:25.720 They was like, what this niggas from Left Brack and 1:47:25.840 --> 1:47:26.960 Left Brack left. 1:47:28.960 --> 1:47:33.160 Minutes so fall and I kept hanging out and I 1:47:33.240 --> 1:47:35.439 gotta I gotta give the love the jungle. Jungle was 1:47:35.439 --> 1:47:38.080 the dude like. Jungle was like, we're fucking want him, 1:47:38.120 --> 1:47:39.720 we want to shoot you know what I mean. 1:47:40.120 --> 1:47:43.240 But what I'm saying is said the end. 1:47:44.520 --> 1:47:49.960 When I heard they recruited you and you was just like, 1:47:50.439 --> 1:47:51.679 it was so ill. 1:47:51.960 --> 1:47:54.000 I was just like, and you know, and you know 1:47:54.120 --> 1:47:54.479 from them. 1:47:54.560 --> 1:47:58.040 My very first feature, My very first feature after that 1:47:58.439 --> 1:48:01.680 was the Pun Record, My very first feature after that, 1:48:02.080 --> 1:48:03.320 I meant you Pun. 1:48:04.920 --> 1:48:06.840 You know Pun's first words he had said to me? 1:48:07.000 --> 1:48:07.479 What he said? 1:48:07.560 --> 1:48:07.880 He said? 1:48:08.560 --> 1:48:10.200 Because I was it was in the session. The first 1:48:10.360 --> 1:48:13.120 is the first words you ever said to me? You said, 1:48:13.360 --> 1:48:14.840 you said, this is the first words you. 1:48:14.840 --> 1:48:17.040 Ever said to me. You said, y'all cnn huh. 1:48:17.439 --> 1:48:21.800 He walked this unique studio, Unique studios, nigga walks in whoa, 1:48:22.160 --> 1:48:23.120 and then Pun was it. 1:48:23.400 --> 1:48:27.479 He goes, y'all seeing that, I'm like, he said, which 1:48:27.520 --> 1:48:28.800 one of your niggas got shot? 1:48:29.400 --> 1:48:32.040 And then Paul raised his hand and then y'all start 1:48:32.120 --> 1:48:34.080 keep hearing gunshot rooms and ship. 1:48:34.120 --> 1:48:36.000 I was like, this is very awkward. 1:48:39.000 --> 1:48:41.639 Pom shows his ship then and then he goes, which 1:48:41.640 --> 1:48:44.240 one of y'alls Puerto Rican and I raised my hand 1:48:44.360 --> 1:48:46.439 and this is this is one hundred percent facts. 1:48:46.800 --> 1:48:48.799 I was just like, because I never met these niggas. 1:48:49.439 --> 1:48:51.080 I love this nigga, but I don't want him to 1:48:51.120 --> 1:48:51.920 think I'm a sucker. 1:48:52.000 --> 1:48:54.519 He just walked in my studio sessionly Plu told you 1:48:54.640 --> 1:48:56.960 to walk over right, Buck Wilder is doing the beat 1:48:57.040 --> 1:48:59.120 maybe be buck Wow, and. 1:48:59.200 --> 1:49:00.600 Then and goes to me. 1:49:00.800 --> 1:49:04.559 He goes, yo, you Puerto Rican and yeah, he goes, 1:49:05.000 --> 1:49:07.400 so wipe the ice grilled off, Bapa. 1:49:09.280 --> 1:49:13.640 Because we're gonna be friends. And from that moment, Yo, 1:49:13.720 --> 1:49:19.160 the nigga made me laugh. I was racist from that 1:49:19.360 --> 1:49:23.920 moment and it was some of the best people I 1:49:23.960 --> 1:49:26.560 ever met. Man, Joe, I really appreciate you. You have 1:49:26.680 --> 1:49:29.320 never left me. You know You've always been there for me. 1:49:29.640 --> 1:49:35.200 I want to guard ray Kwan, but just his birthday 1:49:35.400 --> 1:49:39.479 is his birthday, Happy birthday, my brother. But Ray Kwan 1:49:39.640 --> 1:49:44.000 the shelf before you leave, telling me friends top three 1:49:44.280 --> 1:49:49.360 friends and him. You don't know. They jerked me, so 1:49:49.520 --> 1:49:53.479 I have he called me first, I was out of town. 1:49:53.520 --> 1:49:55.519 I said, nah, go get him, and I never got him. 1:49:55.560 --> 1:49:57.760 But I really need to have one up on you. 1:49:58.080 --> 1:50:00.720 You got, I said, you he gonna give me one? 1:50:00.960 --> 1:50:03.519 Yeah, I know, but for now, can I say something? 1:50:03.640 --> 1:50:07.280 Yeah? So I'm an underground wrapper. I'm digging in the crates. 1:50:08.120 --> 1:50:10.360 I'm like on my first second album. I'm on my 1:50:10.479 --> 1:50:12.679 first album. I came out the same time as Wu 1:50:12.760 --> 1:50:15.519 Tang and I remember I was getting like three hundred 1:50:15.560 --> 1:50:17.519 the show. I ain't knowing how they made money because 1:50:17.520 --> 1:50:22.080 it was fifteen niggas for three hundred dollars. I'm sure 1:50:22.960 --> 1:50:26.320 Ray got some stars, right, I'm like, damn, I start 1:50:26.439 --> 1:50:29.880 counting thirteen niggas and shit, you niggas must have got 1:50:29.960 --> 1:50:35.800 fifteen dollars, right, Shit fucked up? Right? And then I 1:50:35.880 --> 1:50:39.559 remember Woo just super blue and I wasn't big yet, 1:50:39.600 --> 1:50:41.920 And I remember I would any time I would call 1:50:42.040 --> 1:50:45.720 Ray corner and this nigga's like four platinum, I'd be like, yo, Reay, 1:50:45.800 --> 1:50:47.160 I need you on the so on the night like 1:50:47.280 --> 1:50:50.320 five water. Ten minutes later that nigga was in there. 1:50:50.439 --> 1:50:54.040 No funny Style kept the ten thousand with me. I 1:50:54.120 --> 1:50:56.839 remember one time I was in Ray. Don't even remember 1:50:56.880 --> 1:50:59.000 this yet, y'all don't remember this, but I was in 1:50:59.080 --> 1:51:00.519 Staatenla and I the show. 1:51:01.320 --> 1:51:03.320 I remember you had a studios that now we had 1:51:03.360 --> 1:51:04.200 the studio. 1:51:04.680 --> 1:51:06.200 But no one time I had a show in the 1:51:06.320 --> 1:51:09.200 hood early on and I got into some ship with 1:51:09.320 --> 1:51:12.040 the with with the Staten Island niggas like it was 1:51:12.080 --> 1:51:14.800 about to pop off crazy like yo, fuck y'all talking 1:51:14.800 --> 1:51:18.000 about nigga nigga niggas ready to pop off, and the 1:51:18.160 --> 1:51:21.840 guard Ray Kwan, was like, Yo, this is my motherfucking 1:51:21.920 --> 1:51:25.639 brother man. That ship ain't going down here. Shut that shit. 1:51:25.720 --> 1:51:33.559 He talking that woo change ship niggas calmed down, Fuck 1:51:33.640 --> 1:51:36.960 that doll. That ship ain't going down here, nigga, Like 1:51:37.080 --> 1:51:38.760 you know what I'm saying. But it was like, you know, 1:51:40.080 --> 1:51:43.800 so like Nori, I'm gonna say top five because I 1:51:43.880 --> 1:51:47.280 got friends. You know what I'm saying. But I got 1:51:47.439 --> 1:51:51.719 you top five brothers, my brothers that I love. There's 1:51:51.880 --> 1:51:55.160 always kept it real with me. Top five friends. You 1:51:55.479 --> 1:51:59.320 and Ray Corners in my top five friends in my 1:51:59.560 --> 1:52:02.280 brother you know what I mean, Like not love you, 1:52:02.600 --> 1:52:05.639 not rappers, nothing to do with that, just like you're 1:52:05.680 --> 1:52:07.680 my brothers. You could call me at any time, Ray 1:52:07.760 --> 1:52:09.320 call me at any time. It is what it is. 1:52:09.760 --> 1:52:11.840 If we never wrapped and we knew each other from 1:52:12.240 --> 1:52:14.960 the block, we would still be brothers. So you know 1:52:15.120 --> 1:52:18.639 Ray corners in that category. And trust me, it ain't 1:52:18.680 --> 1:52:20.360 too many niggas in that category. 1:52:20.520 --> 1:52:23.920 Not for me neither, not for me neither. Thank you, man. 1:52:23.960 --> 1:52:27.519 I always count on you. Man. I want to say 1:52:27.560 --> 1:52:28.080 one more story. 1:52:28.080 --> 1:52:31.120 I like your T shirt. Oh yeah, I like it 1:52:31.240 --> 1:52:32.240 a lot. I like it. 1:52:32.680 --> 1:52:33.960 This is hip hop less check. 1:52:35.640 --> 1:52:35.920 Try to. 1:52:38.600 --> 1:52:40.679 Hold on there. 1:52:41.320 --> 1:52:47.880 You've never seen those those nay listen. 1:52:48.000 --> 1:52:50.960 It doesn't matter because he'll never give me his nigger connect. 1:52:51.600 --> 1:52:53.960 You don't give me everything else in the world, but 1:52:54.080 --> 1:52:57.439 the sneaker connect doesn't happen. Fat yo. Thank you for dreaming. 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