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Speaker 1: I hope all of you are having a great week.

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Speaker 1: A couple of interesting Game two is today predictable Game

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Speaker 1: two is these You know, these two series are definitively

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Speaker 1: less interesting than the other two series is the Boston

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Speaker 1: Bucks series and that Warriors Grizzly series. But there's still

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Speaker 1: a lot going on. It's just hard because with Joel

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Speaker 1: Embiid being out, there's just not a whole lot that

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Speaker 1: you can learn from the games taking place in Miami

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Speaker 1: right now. I think, hopefully if he comes back in

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Speaker 1: I love Luca is one of my favorite players to watch.

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Speaker 1: But they're playing the team that might be the best

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Speaker 1: as much as I love rooting for that team and

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Speaker 1: I've I'm so interested to see what they can accomplish

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Speaker 1: over the course the next five to ten years, they're

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Speaker 1: just up against it right now, against a really, really

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Speaker 1: good team. Today is gonna be a little bit different

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Speaker 1: than some of our recent shows. We're going to break

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Speaker 1: down these two games a little bit. We'll spend fift

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes on it, but we're gonna spend the latter

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Speaker 1: take stock of how this playoff, uh, this this set

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Speaker 1: about the players involved in the teams involved, and so

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Speaker 1: lt I do video breakdowns every morning. That's a great

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Speaker 1: place to see some film that backs up the things

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Speaker 1: that I say on the show. But let's start with

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Speaker 1: the MAVs in the sun. So CP three went ahead

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Speaker 1: and performed open Maverick surgery on Luca and Dallas there

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Speaker 1: in that fourth quarter, which is, you know, not not

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Speaker 1: exactly the most shocking thing in the world. Uh. Ryan,

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Speaker 1: our lead producer, the guy who's the real m v

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Speaker 1: P of the show, said, I thought it was genius.

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Speaker 1: He goes, He goes, how unfair is that that Phoenix

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Speaker 1: is so good that Chris Paul gets to basically be

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Speaker 1: Because say what you want about CP three's longevity, and

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Speaker 1: How is it that a six foot tall guard that

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Speaker 1: How does he pull that off? And to me, it

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Speaker 1: You've heard me talk about a bunch of different things

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Speaker 1: I've talked about let's focus on his scoring for a minute.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about variety, how the difference between guys who

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Speaker 1: in different spots on the floor. Chris Paul can come

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Speaker 1: off of ball screens and shoot threes all day long.

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Speaker 1: If he gets a big on switches, he can take

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Speaker 1: he's really getting just about whatever he wants. Their offense

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Speaker 1: the exact same dynamic. His ability to consistently and surgically

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Speaker 1: I've talked about how you know, playmaking in particular has

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Speaker 1: Like when we look at high level three level scores,

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Speaker 1: unbelievably good, and he's in a tier with a bunch

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Speaker 1: But when we're talking like true high level playmaking, it's

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Speaker 1: you get to that fifth guy. That's what makes that

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Speaker 1: There just aren't a lot of guys that can do it.

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Speaker 1: And that ability to make those raids consistently and to

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Speaker 1: at age thirty seven, even at six ft tall, he's

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Speaker 1: Now there's a ceiling there. We saw that last year

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Speaker 1: But all of that is what makes him so devastating

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Speaker 1: are being played in these playoff series? Like Phoenix is

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Speaker 1: playing three of them, but one of them is like

432
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Speaker 1: a future All Star in DeAndre Aton and JaVale McGee

433
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: and Bismack Biyombo are both extremely mobile. They move their

434
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Speaker 1: feet really well. JaVale McGee doesn't if for his lack

435
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,679
Speaker 1: of foot speed, he makes up for it with ridiculous

436
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Speaker 1: length and athleticism. Right, So, like they can get away

437
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 1: with playing guys like that in today's NBA, but you wouldn't,

438
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Speaker 1: you know. Essentially, there's a baseline of either offensive skill

439
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Speaker 1: or defensive capability with mobility that you have to hit

440
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Speaker 1: to be playable as a center in this league. Maxie

441
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: Cleeb is not great defensively, but he brings this perimeter

442
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: shooting element in the ability to attack close outs a

443
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 1: little bit, so he can play right. You know, like

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Speaker 1: Golden State they barely played Kevin Looney in Game two.

445
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: They played him, I think just under nine minutes. You know,

446
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: like they're airing towards using him less and less you know,

447
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: Memphis has completely dropped Steven Adams out of the rotation.

448
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: Boston just DMP coach decision Daniel Tys, so they're not

449
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: playing him anymore, and he can even shoot threes right Like,

450
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Speaker 1: You're literally seeing all these coaches around the league ditch

451
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: their traditional centers. Why because they're paying attention to what's

452
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: happening directly in front of their eyes, and DC Rivers

453
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: just doesn't see it. In that first half, DeAndre Jordan's

454
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: was like minus nine or whatever he was and and

455
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: uh and Paul Reid was like minus four, minus seven

456
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: or something like that. I can't remember. But then right

457
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the second quarter, here here he

458
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: goes and plays five guards and they immediately are plus six,

459
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: and they went into the half down eight after being

460
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: down big the rest of the half, and then he

461
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: didn't play that group at all until about halfway through

462
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when the game was already over. It's

463
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Speaker 1: just it's incredibly frustrating because, like again, and it doesn't

464
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Speaker 1: really matter, like this little, this whole DeAndre jordan conversation

465
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: is a fake problem that was brought up by the

466
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Speaker 1: Joe and Beads situation. But look, man, if Joel Embiad's

467
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 1: gonna miss Games one, in game two, you have an

468
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: obligation to try to go down to Miami and attempt

469
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: to steal a game. And the best way to do

470
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: it is not to play the same way you play,

471
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Speaker 1: but to ditch your best player in the world candidate

472
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: for arguably the worst center in all of basketball. The

473
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 1: best way to do it is to jank things up,

474
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: go wild card, dude, really weird stuff, and just try

475
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Speaker 1: to squeeze a fake win out. And I thought their

476
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: best opportunity to do that was by playing five perimeter players,

477
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: and Doc just every time he did it in the

478
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: first two games it went well for him, with exception

479
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: of that stretch right there in the fourth quarter tonight

480
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: when the game was already over. But he just never

481
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: leaned on it enough for it to matter. And that's

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00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: a damn shame because he got fifty five points out

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Speaker 1: of Tyres Maxie to buy his Harris and it just

484
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: wasn't enough. One last note, Jimmy Butler was incredible against

485
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Speaker 1: tonight and twelve. Just the same things that I was

486
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Speaker 1: saying about Chris Paul relate to Jimmy Butler. The reason

487
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 1: why he's so impactful in the playoffs is he has

488
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 1: that three levels boring in variety, right, so he doesn't

489
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: come at you the same way every time. That makes

490
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: that keeps you on your toes. He has a back

491
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: to the basket game. He has a lot of like purouetting,

492
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,399
Speaker 1: like using his body position type of like floaters and

493
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: turnarounds in the post that make him extremely difficult to guard.

494
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's got a great three point shooter, but

495
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: if you leave him out there, he has the capability

496
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Speaker 1: to burn you. And then he's a great playmaker to

497
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: alve assists again tonight. Consistently he's had that point forward capability,

498
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Speaker 1: That big, strong guy from the perimeter that can initiate

499
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: offense both as a score and as a passer, just

500
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Speaker 1: brings so much value in the NBA playoffs. And then

501
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: he brings that defensive you know, weapon that that is

502
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: so important at this level. And so I just don't

503
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence that we see guys like Jimmy

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00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: Butler and Chris Paul succeed in this environment. And guys,

505
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Speaker 1: that's why I value those skills so much. That's why

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Speaker 1: value playmaking, that's why value offensive variety. That's why value

507
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 1: commitment to defense, That's why I value your physical conditioning.

508
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: Those are all things that are consistently, year in and

509
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Speaker 1: year out demonstrated to be incredibly important. In the NBA Playoff,

510
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: we have to pay attention to that, and we definitely

511
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Speaker 1: need to put additional value on those things when we're

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Speaker 1: evaluating basketball players really quickly before we bring my guy

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Speaker 1: Carson on, make sure you like this video. Make sure

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Speaker 1: I do that back up the things that we talked

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Speaker 1: about on the show. All Right, we're gonna bring my

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Speaker 1: at Carson on. We're gonna zoom out, and we're gonna

533
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Speaker 1: talk about some more macro topics around the league. What's up, Carson.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Jason, how are you? I can't complain, man,

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00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: I can't complain. We're talking about basketball. That's fantastic. We

536
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: certainly are. In fact, we've got the five biggest questions

537
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Speaker 1: of the night that we're gonna talk about here, and

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Speaker 1: we're gonna start with that game that you just briefly

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Speaker 1: touched on, that being, of course, Sixers Heat Game two.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the major storylines that we have

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Speaker 1: seen throughout this season, in particularly throughout this playoff runs,

542
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: something you've talked about a lot, is the obvious decline

543
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: of James Harden, where he's averaging under nineteen a game

544
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: in these playoffs on shooting. It was a subpar finish

545
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: to the regular season. He hasn't scored more than twenty

546
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: two points and since March twenty nine. That's over a

547
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: month of basketball, which is crazy for a guy who

548
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Speaker 1: averaged thirty five a game and consecutive seasons. So another

549
00:26:53,080 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: underwhelming performance tonight, Jason. Is James Harden just cooked? You know,

550
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to say because there is the hamstring excuse me,

551
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: the hamstring element in this um. But the hamstring element

552
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: feels like it's been around for years now. Um, you

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00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: know this? This is the thing. I saw an article

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00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: that showed up on you know that like Twitter discover

555
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: page that I scrolled through sometimes, and and it it

556
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: was like it was just like a health based article,

557
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 1: and it was talking about like the difference between your

558
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: chronological age and your biological age, essentially the difference between

559
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: you aging simply on the calendar versus like wear and tear,

560
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: not just physically in terms of like joint injuries and

561
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: things like that, but like like how much time do

562
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 1: you spend absorbing UV race? So like how how much

563
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: alcohol do you consume? How many other drugs do you consume?

564
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: Like what kind of food do you eat? Like how

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00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: do you take care of in terms of like your cholesterol,

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00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: your blood pressure and all those things, like you age

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Speaker 1: in different ways, and you know, there was a just

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Speaker 1: there was a definitive thing that happened at definitive moment

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Speaker 1: and Chris Paul's career. I think juxtaposing Chris and James

570
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: is super interesting because they have personal beef. But like, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Chris Paul, he pulls his hamstring in one

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Speaker 1: of the most pivotal moments of his basketball career, right

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Speaker 1: and it costs him. Well, there's no guarantee that Golden

574
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: State doesn't come out and win those last two games.

575
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: I hate when people talking guarantees. There's no guarantee that

576
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Speaker 1: the Warriors win Game five if Draymond plays in the

577
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen finals. There's no guarantee that the Rockets

578
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: lose in two thousand eighteen or win in two thousand

579
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Speaker 1: eighteen based on a Chris Paul injury. You still have

580
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: to play the games. The games are different based on

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Speaker 1: who's on the floor. But Chris Paul, had he won

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Speaker 1: that series, they would have beat the Calves. If he

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Speaker 1: was healthy, he would be a championship. A champion right now.

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Speaker 1: Well after that year, there was a very well documented

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00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: change in Chris Paul's approach to his own health, because

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00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: from two thousand and twelve to two thousand and eighteen,

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Speaker 1: it was frequent that Chris Paul dealt with injuries at

588
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Speaker 1: a bunch of different points in playoff series. Is that

589
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: cost him chances? Right, and so he becomes a vegan.

590
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: There was a bunch of a consistent video footage that

591
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: he would do additional workouts after games to continue to

592
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: strengthen his conditioning. Right, and what do you know, Like

593
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: the dude hasn't he broke his hand during the regular

594
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: season this year, but that's an impact injury. The dude

595
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: has been available in all the big moments since then,

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00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, because it's not rocket science, Like you you

597
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: get what you put into whatever. What you get out

598
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: of your body is what you put into your body.

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00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: You have to take care of it. You only get

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00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: one of them, right. We juxtaposed that with James Harden,

601
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: who is literally so famous for attending strip clubs that

602
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: at one point there was a viral chart that went

603
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: out where someone juxtaposed his stats with the cities that

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00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: he would play in based on their like like zagged

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00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: guide strip clubs, and there was like a clear line

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00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: in that show that he would play better and when

607
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: he played in cities that had were strip clubs and like,

608
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: and obviously that's a joke and there's probably just that's

609
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: probably just coincidental. But the point is is James Harden

610
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: hasn't taken good care of his body. And the wild

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Speaker 1: thing is we we tweeted out the volume, tweeted out

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Speaker 1: our little rant the other night about when we the

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Speaker 1: last time we juxtaposed these two guys with each other,

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Speaker 1: and someone that I follow actually commented underneath it and

615
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: was complaining, like, it's unfair for you to jump on

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00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: James now that he's on the decline, like you're forgetting

617
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: about how good he was at his peak. And I

618
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: wanted to be like, he's thirty two, He's thirty two

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Speaker 1: years old. Like, dude, he is in the prime of

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Speaker 1: his career. There is absolutely no excuse for him to

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Speaker 1: have declined this far. He has not suffered to torn

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Speaker 1: a c l, he has not suffered to torn achilles.

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Speaker 1: He's have soft tissue issues, he's there's, there's there's in

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Speaker 1: soft tissue issues typically come down to conditioning and that

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00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: kind of stuff anyway, Right, So it's like there's just

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Speaker 1: absolutely no excuse for James Harden to have declined as

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Speaker 1: much as he had. Literally in this playoff front. He's

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Speaker 1: averaging eighteen point eight points, five point four rebounds, nine

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Speaker 1: point four assists on shooting thirty five percent from the field.

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Speaker 1: From the free throw line's obviously still good there. He

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00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: just can't get there nearly as frequently as he used to.

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00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: It's just this, we're not talking about a max contract

633
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: play anymore, if we're not even talking about a star anymore.

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00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: Let's just let's just let's cut the ship. Guys. He's

635
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot closer to D'Angelo Russell than he is to

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00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: Luca don Chich at this point. That's the that's the

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00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: reality of the James Harden problem at this point. I

638
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: don't you know, we talked a lot about a couple

639
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: of weeks ago about what the Sixers should do with

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00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: them after this playoff run, like do you maxim or

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00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: do you not? And don't get me wrong, I still

642
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: think you gotta try to find a way to keep

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00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: him for the sake of the asset. But like, we're

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Speaker 1: dangerously near the territory of like is any of the

645
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: thirty teams in the league gonna offer this guy a

646
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: max contract for for a D'Angelo Russell type of player.

647
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean, again, he's better than D'Angel Russell. I'm just

648
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: saying he's closer to that than he is to the

649
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: stars of the top of the league. It's a real problem.

650
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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know what you do

651
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: at this point, but like when you're pointing the finger,

652
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: you point the point, you point the finger at James.

653
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: He didn't take care of his body. He aged himself

654
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: way faster than athletes for normally do. He's the Alan

655
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: Iverson of this era. And this is the kind of

656
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Speaker 1: thing that happens when you do that. It is remarkable.

657
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: I mean, just when you put in a context that

658
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: it was literally two years ago that the average thirty

659
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: four game, and a year before that that the average

660
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: thirty six a game. And I think, obviously you've touched

661
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Speaker 1: on a lot of it, but it really is obvious

662
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: the physical deterioration and hamstring or not, he just doesn't separate.

663
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: And obviously his game has never been explosiveness. It's always

664
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Speaker 1: been changing pace in those little bursts of acceleration and

665
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: deception and craftiness. But I mean outside of the step

666
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: back three. It's tough for him to create a clean

667
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Speaker 1: look for himself in the pain. It feels like everything

668
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: is tough. And as you said, I mean, he's just

669
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: not getting there as much. So it's obviously a major problem.

670
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: And when he can't step up and assert himself like that,

671
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: when Embat isn't even out there, it kind of leaves

672
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: this Sixers team just in a brutal spot. I think

673
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: the Delo common is interesting. I want to play a

674
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: little game within the game here for you and just

675
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: throw out some guys and you tell me if right

676
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: now you would rather have them or James Harden. Let's

677
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: start with Shay Gil just Alexander. Would you rather have

678
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: him or James Harden. Oh gosh, I think I'd still

679
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: go with James Harden there, just because we don't know

680
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Speaker 1: what Shay looks like in h I mean what we

681
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: do know what he looks like in a playoff environment.

682
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: He was not great in the bubble, but like in

683
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: terms of and I still value play making a great deal.

684
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: The one the one thing that James Harden does still

685
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Speaker 1: bring to the table at this point is like he's

686
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: in that tier of playmakers right below the top, and

687
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: there's a great deal of value in that specifically. It's

688
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: just you can't have your team built around him as

689
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: an offensive folk rum anymore. But you can't do that

690
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: with Shay either, So I man like like in terms

691
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Speaker 1: of building my franchise around him, Like, yeah, I take Shay,

692
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Speaker 1: But like, if I had it, if I had to

693
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Speaker 1: pick a guy for a playoff series tomorrow, I'd still

694
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Speaker 1: take James. Okay, what about c J McCallum or James Harden.

695
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Speaker 1: Oh that's a lot closer. You had to go to

696
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Speaker 1: a your zen place there for a moment. Yeah, I

697
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Speaker 1: think I think I think I'd go c J. But

698
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: it's very close. I think I think CJ is a

699
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: little bit better defensively at this point because James is

700
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Speaker 1: still like he's still just all over the place on

701
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: the defensive end of the floor. Um, that three level scoring,

702
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: I think is something you can still need because I'm

703
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: accepting the reality that at this point neither of those

704
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: guys are number one. But I think if I had

705
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Speaker 1: a good number one, i'd rather have CJ as my

706
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Speaker 1: number two than James is my number two. Okay, last one,

707
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Speaker 1: I think that you've probably already given away your answer

708
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: based on the CJ one, But you did have some

709
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: gripes with this guy in the last series. Donovan Mitchell

710
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: or James Harden. Oh, James Harden easily Donovan Mitchell. Yeah.

711
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: The thing I think Donovan Mitchell is his decision making

712
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 1: is so poor as an offensive fulcrum. When you combine

713
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: that with his like his defensive issues, and then the

714
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: fact that his jump shot is so streaky, I just

715
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Speaker 1: I think that James Harden. I think Donovan Mitchell is.

716
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Speaker 1: I think Donovan Mitchell is having a wake up call

717
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: this year, and I act him to have some sort

718
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: of significant improvement in the coming years. But if I

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Speaker 1: was picking a guy for a playoff series tomorrow'd rather

720
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Speaker 1: have James because at least I can trust James to

721
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: at least organize guys and put people in the right spots,

722
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Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, like you said,

723
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Speaker 1: his command of the game, his poises, playmaking is still

724
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: unequivocally top level the pace that he plays with, but

725
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: the scoring regression has obviously been stark. Okay, let's move

726
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: on from this little hardened hate party and let's talk

727
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: about Grizzlies Warriors, which I think is obviously a really

728
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: fun series, maybe the most interesting one going right now.

729
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: We saw a monster John Moran performance last night piece,

730
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Speaker 1: So Jason, given that level that he's playing right now,

731
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Speaker 1: is Jaw the best player in that series? Oh No,

732
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: but it's close, and I never would have thought that

733
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Speaker 1: it would be close. Steph is playing pretty well in

734
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: this playoff run so far. Twenty seven point three points,

735
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Speaker 1: four point one rebounds, five point six assists, percent from

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Speaker 1: the field, thirty percent from three s from the line. Obviously,

737
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: you know with with Steph, his like his playoff three

738
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Speaker 1: point percentage is always kind of been just just to

739
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: touch under forties. So like you could make a case that,

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Speaker 1: you know, after that slump that he had earlier in

741
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: this season and and him coming back from this injury,

742
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: he actually looks pretty close to what he was before.

743
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Speaker 1: The thing was the one leg up that Jaw has.

744
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: Because step has a bunch of clear advantages over John Moran.

745
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Speaker 1: I think that even though even though Jaws averaging over

746
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: tennisis per game in this postseason, I think that Steph

747
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: is better at generating quality looks first teammates Steph. Steph's

748
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: playmaking doesn't manifest in terms of assists steps playmaking manifests

749
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Speaker 1: in terms of defensive attention that he absorbs and consistent

750
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: four on three opportunities first teammates. Right. So, like I

751
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: think that Steph still is a definitively better offensive engine

752
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: in terms of creating shots for his teammates, I think

753
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: that Steph is a significantly better defensive player and that's

754
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: a huge uh factor here. Like Golden State, Golden State

755
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: has really struggled with finding places to ways to attack Jaw.

756
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: That's something they're gonna have to figure out as the

757
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: series progresses. They've been hiding him. But the problem is

758
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: is Golden State's not a great rim pressuring team in

759
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: terms of like isolation situations. They get rim pressure off

760
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: of attacking closeouts when their guards gather attention. So they

761
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 1: don't have a guy that's just gonna consistently stair Job

762
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Moran in the face and drive to the basket on

763
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: him the way that Anthony Edwards did in the last round, right,

764
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Speaker 1: So that's their issue right now. But Jaws Jaws defensive

765
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: issues are real issues, and I expect Steve Kerr to

766
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: find ways to attack him over the course of the series.

767
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: So Steph has a bunch of clear advantages there, his experience,

768
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: his decision making. I'm always going to favor, especially guys

769
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: that have been there a bunch of time times. So

770
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: Steph is the best player in this series. But the

771
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Speaker 1: one swing factor and the one thing that Jaw has

772
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: on step right now, and it also happens to be

773
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Speaker 1: their best chance to win the series, is what you

774
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: saw last night, that supreme unguardability in single coverage situations.

775
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: Not that Steph doesn't have some of that. He does,

776
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: But even when Steph was at his absolute peak, his

777
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: individual shot creation in isolation situations, especially in the playoffs,

778
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: was not quite at the level of some of his

779
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: peers at the top of the league. Kevin Durance, the Lebrons,

780
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: guys like that, right So, and again that's not a

781
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: slander to Steff. He's very good at that specific skill.

782
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: He's just a touch below his peers at the top

783
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: of the league. Well, Jaw literally just walked down one

784
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the league last night, every

785
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: single possession top of the key one four low isolation

786
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: and won a game doing it and getting whatever shot

787
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: he wanted in the process. And during that whole stretch

788
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: he could have just pulled up at three every time

789
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: if he wanted to, and there will be a point

790
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: in his career where he adds that to his game

791
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: and it becomes even more problematic. So again, STEP's the

792
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: best player in the series, but it's close. And the

793
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,919
Speaker 1: reason why it's close his jaw is flashing that supreme

794
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: unguardability in individual situations, even at the top levels of

795
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: playoff basketball, and I do think that that's a very

796
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: valuable asset. But again, his decision makings and issues from

797
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: the field from three, um, that's a big part of

798
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: that is just he takes tough shots. Sometimes he settles.

799
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: A lot of the time he gets off, he gets

800
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: a little too like caught up in the moment. We'll

801
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: try crazy stuff from time to time. That's all inexperience,

802
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: and those are all advantages that go to Steph. But

803
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: again that's the one area where jaw has an advantage.

804
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you being on the Step side

805
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: of this, but I also totally agree with you on

806
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: the jaw advantage. And I think that's always been one

807
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: of the most interesting things engaging steps value. It's that

808
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: he can have such a tremendous impact without even having

809
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: to touch the ball right by just existing his gravity

810
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: the attention he demands at all times. But at the

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Speaker 1: same time, it's like you said, some guys are just

812
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: much better at direct imposing themselves, and very few people

813
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: right now are better than at that than Jaw, who

814
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: can just go at you athletically over and over and

815
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: over again and challenge your best on the perimeter and

816
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: win that matchup and force your defense to bring help.

817
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: And now guys have to rotate, and it's just like

818
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: every time he drives, it feels like he can kick

819
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: out to somebody. But I totally agree. I mean, these

820
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: have been two really impressive games from Jaw, but there's

821
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: some things that are unsustainable. I mean, he can really

822
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: get into the lane at will. But he's made nine

823
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: threes in these two games. You know when he's doing that,

824
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he probably is the best player in

825
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: the series. Because Jaw makes four and a half threes

826
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: a game, it's like, what could be missing there? But

827
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Speaker 1: I guess the table was the guy shot sub thirty

828
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Speaker 1: nine percent from the field, he was from three. He

829
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: had some issues with turnovers, So I would say it's

830
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 1: still comp in my mind, just over a larger sample size,

831
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: but like, there's no denying that Gays point blank one

832
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: of the most unguardable guys one on one in league

833
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, you know, the Minnesota thing was interesting

834
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: because we saw the Pat Beverley the tweet where he's

835
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: like where you can see him score forty seven against

836
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: us and like, which is like, dude, like like you

837
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,760
Speaker 1: have to understand, like you have to understand that doesn't

838
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: come off with the public the way you think it does,

839
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But again, we talked about

840
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: it a lot on the show. Minnesota it was one

841
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: of the best perimeter contained teams in this league, and

842
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: so they did a much better job of positioning themselves

843
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: between Jaw and the basket, and he struggled and so

844
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that kind of like versatility and

845
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: being immune to specific situations is what separates a guy

846
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: like Steph from a guy like Jaw. It's what separates

847
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: the the top tier guys from the guys that are

848
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: in the tier right below, you know, like like, for instance,

849
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: like Steph will encounter defensive matchups that make him struggle

850
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: in certain ways, just like Jaw did in the first round.

851
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: But that's where his all world gravity in addition to

852
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: what he does on the defensive end of the floor,

853
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: and in his addition to like his ability to have

854
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: these little flurries where teams lose track of him and

855
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: then he'll get hot and make you know, twelve points

856
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: in four minut it's or whatever it is. Those kinds

857
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: of things are would allow him to heavily impact the

858
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: game when he's struggling, Whereas, like when you're watching that

859
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: that series in the first round with Jaw, like he

860
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: looked straight up flum mix at certain points in the series.

861
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: Now he did what it was necessary to win the series.

862
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: So I don't want to undercut that at all. But again,

863
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: like that versatility goes in a long way. But that's

864
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: what you're excuse me, what you're talking about with that

865
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: supreme offensive unguardability. It's the same thing with Joel Embide, Like,

866
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: look at how much different that Philadelphia team looks when

867
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: everybody's operating in traditional coverages, Whereas when Joel Embide is

868
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: on the floor, he just is such a problem with

869
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: unguardability that he's consistently warping your defense with the way

870
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: you have to guard him. So job gives you some

871
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: of that as well, and that's again it's a great

872
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: foundational skill. But the difference between this jaw and Pique

873
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: Jaw in his prime is Job will be a better

874
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: decision maker, a much better defensive player, will have a

875
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: little bit more heft to him him, so he doesn't

876
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: have issues with strength, and he's going to fill those

877
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: things out just like step did as he got older.

878
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: But right now the step is just the smarter you know,

879
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna I expect, especially as this series progresses, for

880
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: Steff to have more impact than Job. Yeah, I would agree,

881
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: But it is remarkable how Jaw just I mean we

882
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: saw it in last year's playoffs. Really he is just

883
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: willing to go such absolute takeover mode for an entire game.

884
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously scored thirty a game in last year's playoffs,

885
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: but like his playmaking impact is up in these playoffs.

886
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: He's over tennisis a game. I think he's taken thirty

887
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: shots in each of the last two games, or like, yeah,

888
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure thirty one in each. So it's just

889
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: a crazy willingness to just keep coming at you. Like

890
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: we talked about, let's flip this to Steph for a

891
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: second though, because obviously the Warriors have emerged as a

892
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: very legitimate title contender, which I don't know if a

893
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: lot of people were expecting that. A year ago obviously

894
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: was such a roller coaster from the Katie and Clay

895
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: injuries and the twenty team Finals loss to actually getting

896
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: back to the start of the season. But now that

897
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: they are firmly in that conversation, we have to ask,

898
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: I think, Jason, what would a fourth title mean for

899
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: steps legacy? Well, first of all, that part you brought

900
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 1: up is super interesting, d the need to have like

901
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: the difference between last year's Warrior's team and this year's

902
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: Warriors team is really just role players, Like Steph was better.

903
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: Steph was better last year, Like this year I think

904
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: was the first year of his physical decline. Steph was

905
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought Steph was had a legitimate case

906
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: to be the best player in all of basketball last year.

907
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: Obviously that deflated when he missed the playoffs. But like

908
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: Draymond Green was a monster last year, and it just

909
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: wasn't enough because they didn't have any veterans. It was

910
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: all young players, and like Kent Baysmore, and that lack

911
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: of like savvy from the the perimeter role players ended

912
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: up really hurting them, especially in their system, were this

913
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: acision making off of attention from step is so important.

914
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: Fast forward to this year, it's like you upgrade to

915
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: an Auto Porter Jr. You upgrade to an Andre Guadala.

916
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 1: You bring you know, just more veteran presences into the room.

917
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: Obviously Jordan's pool massively improved, but like you, you bring

918
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: in like quality role players alongside Stephan Draymond, and then

919
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: even with the decline from Steph, they look significantly better

920
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: than they were last year. That's just why that stuff

921
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: is so important. And that's the silver lining if you're

922
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: a Lakers fan, by the way, because Lron and A

923
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: d are still there. If you make the right moves

924
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: this offseason, you can go a long way towards improving

925
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: the situation as far as the the championship goes. Because

926
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: there's a realistic chance and I can already see this

927
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: coming because if Steph wins a fourth championship, a lot

928
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: of conversations are gonna start taking place because a fourth

929
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: championship for Steph would mean that he has as many

930
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: championships as Lebron James twice as many championships as Kevin Durant,

931
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: all in the same jersey, spanning a time period from

932
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen to two thousand twenty two be a

933
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: remarkable accomplishment. Now you're gonna have some Warriors fans that

934
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: are gonna take if that happens, that are gonna take

935
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: that and run with it, like like it's the end

936
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: of the world. Right. You're gonna have comments like he's

937
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: the best player of this era, he's better than Lebron,

938
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: He's in the Goat conversation, all this stuff. I wouldn't

939
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: go that farm because I think there's a difference between

940
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: like steps titles in two thousand seventeen and two thou

941
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: eighteen alongside Kevin Durant don't match the degree of difficulty

942
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: of any of Lebron's four championships, So I wouldn't put

943
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: him on that level. However, you gotta put him ahead

944
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: of Larry Bird at that point. You gotta put him firmly.

945
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: You gotta put him firmly in the conversation with like

946
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson and Kobe Bryant. Now, for me, these lists

947
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: get weird because I don't keep bigs on the same

948
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: list as a guard to me, they play a completely

949
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: different sport. You're right, like, you can't dribble the ball

950
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: up beflore an initiate offense. I don't think you should

951
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: be in the same list as guys that do that.

952
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: So I keep a separate list for all the greatest

953
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: bigs of all time, and then my list for the

954
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: greatest players of all time is like I've MJ at

955
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: number one, I have Lebron at number two, I have

956
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: Kobe at number three, then I've Magic and I have

957
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: Larry Bird. I think you easily pushed Steph over Larry

958
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: Bird for number five, and I think you could make

959
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: a solid case to put him even at three up

960
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: there with with ahead of Magic and had a Kobe.

961
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: But the problem is is, I think there's a pretty

962
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: big gap between two and three on that list. I

963
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: think Lebron. I think Lebron and MJ are on a

964
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: tier by themselves the top of the league. And I

965
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: even you could even make the case that there's a

966
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: little gap between MJ and Lebron. But like, that's that's

967
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: an amazing case for a guy that was for a

968
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: guy that came up through Davidson, for a guy that

969
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: had his the beginning of his career marred by injuries.

970
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: To definitively have a case is a top five perimeter

971
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: player in the story of basketball would be an unbelievable accomplishment. Obviously,

972
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: still has to do it, but like dude, it's there,

973
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: it's the potential is there. They have the pieces they

974
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: need to do. It's a big part of it's gonna

975
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: come down to matchups. Phoenix played three really good centers tonight, right,

976
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: Like three centers that had a deep impact against Dallas, Right,

977
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: So obviously they're gonna be matchup problems for Golden State

978
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: along the way, but they absolutely have a chance to

979
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: do it there. During that I'd say Boston one, I'd

980
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: say Phoenix too, and then i'd probably say Milwaukee. Golden

981
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: State tied for three. So all four of those teams

982
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: have a real chance. And if Steph does it, like man,

983
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: he's got one hell of a resume at that point.

984
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: So I can't help. But notice that you didn't bring

985
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: up Kevin Durant at all in terms of the hierarchy.

986
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: That's where my mind goes first is comparing those two

987
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: in this context. So do you think that step is

988
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: just definitively pass Katie if he wins another title, like comfortably,

989
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: so I think STEP's definitively pass Katie. You right now, interesting,

990
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: Katie's Katie. The issue with Katie's legacy is he got

991
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: strapped to a really poor decision maker to start his

992
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: career in Russell Westbrook. You guys all know how I

993
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: feel about him. We don't have to get any further

994
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: into that. Then he won, He won two championships, but

995
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 1: they had an optic appear like their optics, So those

996
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: two championships were poor. They just you didn't he didn't

997
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: see Kevin Durant have to dig deep down three two

998
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: in a series to pull out a tough game on

999
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: the road. It was like the iconic moment of Kevin

1000
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: Durant winning his UH in those two years, the iconic

1001
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: moment is him hitting a shot over Lebron James that

1002
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: was their fifteen consecutive playoff win. Okay, Like that just

1003
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: doesn't carry weight with the masses, the way that Lebron

1004
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 1: having a chase down in a game seven UH tie

1005
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: three three when they were down three games to one,

1006
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: or you know, like Steph Curry coming back from down

1007
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: three one or down to one in the year he

1008
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: won the title against against Memphis or against Cleveland in

1009
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen, Like all of these guys that

1010
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: are ahead of him on the list, they have these

1011
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: like definitive moments of struggle. And then the problem was

1012
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: is after Katie wins these two relatively easy championships, he

1013
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: moves on to this Brooklyn situation where he hitched his

1014
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: wagon to another vagabond and now he's dealing with Kyrie

1015
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: and he's not available and he can't he's not winning here.

1016
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: So it's like, I think I've said this on the

1017
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: show several times, and I mean it, like there's a

1018
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: version of Kadi's story where he's the goat and pretty

1019
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: much all it involves is being in better situations and

1020
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: a little bit better commitment to defense. Those two things

1021
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: would have definitively put him in that conversation. The issue

1022
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: because Kadi's ceiling as a three level score and as

1023
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: a defensive rim protector is as high as any player

1024
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: who's ever played the game. Like that's how good that

1025
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: guy is. But his resume just doesn't even come close

1026
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: to touching stephor Lebron, not even in the city, Like

1027
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: it's not close in my opinion, the year in year out,

1028
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: offensive engine stuff, the the consistent competition for championships. He

1029
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: just doesn't compete with ten trips to the finals or

1030
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: everything that's Steph's done in a Golden State Jersey. It's

1031
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: just not I love Katie's one of my favorite players,

1032
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: and I don't understand why so many people dislike him

1033
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: so much because I actually find him to be one

1034
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: of the most likable players in the NBA. Like he's

1035
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: so authentic. He doesn't bullshit you the way that Lebron

1036
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: does it. Like Lebron is literally tweeting out like, oh,

1037
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: ask me anything during the game tonight. It's like, dude,

1038
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: they're playing playoff games right now, Like you're this isn't

1039
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: about you anymore, you know what I mean? Like I

1040
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: find Lebron is my favorite player. I find him to

1041
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: be unlikable a lot of times off the court, Like

1042
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: k D is super likable, super authentic. For whatever reason,

1043
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: he just doesn't resonate with people and that's a huge bummer.

1044
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: But like that, the reality of the situation is this

1045
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: is basketball. Resume just doesn't touch stuff for Lebron's well,

1046
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: first of all, Jason, I would just like to say,

1047
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: I loved your use of the word vagabond, and I

1048
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: think that's a word that goes dramatically underutilized today. That's

1049
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: really interesting. Do you think it's so decisive, because what

1050
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: I always find difficult to assess is like, yeah, obviously

1051
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: Steph checks a couple more boxes in terms of I

1052
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: think resume when you're talking about really winning the solo

1053
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: solo title and elevating a team that didn't have another

1054
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: true superstar, although it was an incredibly complete team, but

1055
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: obviously such a massively important offensive engine, one of the

1056
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: best that we've ever seen in terms of amplifying other talent,

1057
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: a phenomenal score in every way, like just an unbelievable

1058
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 1: offensive player. What's difficult for me is that I just

1059
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: don't know how many years of their careers I have

1060
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: thought Steph Curry is a better basketball player than Kevin Durant.

1061
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: Like when they were taking you know, there was always

1062
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: the information about how without Katie they would still cruise

1063
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: and they would be utterly dominant, and without Steph things

1064
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: would kind of fall apart, right, And I think that's

1065
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: obviously true when you see that with the on off

1066
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: numbers throughout Steph's career, like he is utterly vital in

1067
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: a way that Katie is a one on one score

1068
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: maybe can't replicate. At the same time, there was just

1069
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 1: always that feeling of like, Okay, well we know who

1070
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: can go to takeover mode and just a completely different way.

1071
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: We know who can average thirty five a game in

1072
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: the finals, and you know, if we're slipping against the

1073
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: Clippers a little bit inexplicably, Katie is gonna be the

1074
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: one average thirty five a game and just completely cut

1075
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: this team's throat. And I just feel like he obviously

1076
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: has more longevity because Steph's peak came a little later.

1077
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: He is, to me, maybe the most skilled score of

1078
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: all time. I think he's certainly got to be in

1079
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: the top two. I think he's the most complete, given

1080
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: that just in Jordan's are obviously, I mean the three

1081
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: just wasn't as valued and wasn't a significant part of

1082
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: his arsenal. I mean, I do think he's the better

1083
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: defensive player throughout their careers. I think in terms of

1084
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: individual playmaking, step has a slight edge, but it's not massive.

1085
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: So it's just like the skill set thing for me

1086
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: and just comparing them in my individual year to year,

1087
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: who do I think is the better basketball player? I

1088
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: feel like most years I come up with Katie, So

1089
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't know does that resonate with you at all?

1090
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: Like is that a factor or do you just disagree?

1091
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: Dude that that all makes perfect sense, Like and I

1092
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: and I get it. Like, here's the thing, dude, Like

1093
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: there are knights where I watched Kevin Durant play basketball.

1094
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, that's the best basketball player

1095
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. There are Knights, there are Knights that

1096
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: I feel that way, you know, in terms of like

1097
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 1: his complete otherworldly unguardability. But the reality of the situation is,

1098
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: and for the record, when I'm that when I'm ranking

1099
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: basketball players, that's different than like an all time ranking.

1100
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: Like I told you guys, I thought Kevin Durant was

1101
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: the best player in the world this year. I had

1102
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: to relent after he struggled so much against Boston. But like, like,

1103
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: that's how much I value what Katie brings to the

1104
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: table as a basketball player on both ends of the floor.

1105
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: That's how much I value. But resumes the the all

1106
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: time rankings of players are strictly about results. It's just

1107
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,479
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation. Now again he's had bad luck,

1108
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 1: like he didn't pick us, you know, and like, like,

1109
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: how many playoff games did Russ take more shots than

1110
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: Kevin Durray in a big moment? Happened all the time

1111
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: like Russ's. You can make a serious case that Russ's

1112
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: decision making hampered Kevin Durant in the in his early

1113
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: playoff career. But like the reality of Katie's playoff resume

1114
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: is he struggled with a player that I thought hold

1115
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: It held him back in a lot of ways. And

1116
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: then he won two championships uh In on a team

1117
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: that had won seventy three games without him, and so

1118
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: there was a level of ease that made that undercut

1119
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: the quality of that accomplishment. And then he hitched his

1120
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,479
Speaker 1: wagon to Kyrie Irving and it hasn't been enough talent

1121
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: for him to win a title. And so like the

1122
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: reality is, as as much as I value his individual

1123
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: skill set, he doesn't bring the results to the table

1124
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: that justified putting him in the conversations with guys like

1125
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, whereas Lebron's ahead of those

1126
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: guys and Steph is trending in the direction of being

1127
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: in that conversation, you know that that's just it's just

1128
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 1: the reality, reality, the situation and like and again, like

1129
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: it's tough because I've talked about this before, but like

1130
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Lebron any partner with Dwayne Wade, I think he intended

1131
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: for that to be as easy as it was for

1132
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: k D and Golden State. It just happened to not

1133
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: It happens to not be and so Lebron had to

1134
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: reach back. Like thinking the summer after Lebron went to

1135
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: Miami was the summer when he became the better basketball player.

1136
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: Like he he he went to Miami in was humbled

1137
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: into having to make significant improvements. And you know that

1138
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like, that's that always resonate, That always

1139
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: resonates with the fans. The struggle resonates with fans. It's

1140
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: just the reality. It's why we root for underdogs. That's

1141
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: why you don't like it. That's why when there's a

1142
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: favorite every year that like like when two thousand seventeen

1143
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: two eighteen Warriors were around, everybody hated him. People don't

1144
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: like to root for the guy on top. They like

1145
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: to root for the underdog. They like to root for

1146
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: teams that are at a disadvantage, and so when they

1147
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: see a star with their back against the wall and

1148
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 1: they have to reach down deep and they have to

1149
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: pull something out of like the deepest, like like the

1150
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: their deepest reserves as a basketball layer in order to

1151
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: come out on top. That just that buys you so

1152
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: much cash with the general public. And Katie either has

1153
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: fallen short or accomplished it in a manner that appeared

1154
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: to be easy, and and that just hurts you in

1155
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: the court of public opinion. We've talked about on the

1156
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: show before. But again, you make a very good case, Carson,

1157
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: and you're right there. There are a lot of years

1158
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: where I've been like, man, Katie might be that guy,

1159
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, the results aren't there. And the

1160
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: specific conversation about all time rankings, that's where the results

1161
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: matter the most. It is so tough because obviously there's

1162
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: no room for theoreticals. I think you're totally right on that,

1163
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: but it is for me still just like I think

1164
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: maybe I see maybe, I don't see it quite as absolutely,

1165
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: just because it's like, obviously people talk about the ring

1166
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: culture and whatnot, and it's just when a guy plays

1167
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: basketball for fifteen years eight two games every year and

1168
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: then the playoffs. Sometimes it's like we view whether or

1169
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: not you win a game seven as being totally determinative

1170
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: and your value as a basketball player, and that's just tough. Obviously,

1171
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you're doing that, but it's just

1172
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: like results are unquestionably the most important thing, but there

1173
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: is an element of that skill set and just you know,

1174
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: believing what did I see night tonight that I feel

1175
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: like hast a factor in there somewhere. But either way,

1176
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: I think they're very for me, they're very close all time.

1177
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: But I honestly think as things stand now, I would

1178
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: still lean Katie because of what I laid out there. Okay,

1179
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: last question here, Jason. We're moving on. Although I thought

1180
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: that was a very fun debate. Let's talk a little

1181
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: Buck Celtics because Boston is favored on failed FanDuel right now,

1182
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: even though the Bucks obviously have regained home court by

1183
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: splitting games in Boston, are you picking them to win

1184
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: the series? I'm still picking Boston. I mean again, my

1185
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from the first two games was that it's

1186
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: not gonna be easy, not that I thought it would

1187
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: be easy. Easy is the wrong word, But it's not

1188
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: gonna be quick. I thought it would. I thought Boston

1189
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: would win games one and two, and I thought they'd

1190
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: lose Game three, then I thought they'd win games four

1191
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: and five. Well, losing game one just puts you in

1192
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: the predicament where now, if you lose Game three, you

1193
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: have to go back to Milwaukee for Game six and

1194
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 1: next thing you know, this could very easily be a

1195
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: seven game series. So I think it's gonna be a

1196
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: longer series. However, I think Boston through the first two

1197
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: games has demonstrated that they are still the better team.

1198
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 1: It's just a closer gap than we originally thought. So

1199
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: Milwaukee's half court offense was a little bit better. In

1200
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: Game two, they were at zero point seven six points

1201
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: per play in game one. They were at zero point

1202
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: nine one points per playing game two, which is a

1203
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: decent number. The problem is is Boston's offense also got

1204
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: better in the half court from Game one to Game two,

1205
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: as you saw. And yes, there were some shooting results,

1206
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: like specifically in uh contested shots they made five tightly

1207
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: guarded threes out of seven tries. But the thing is is, like,

1208
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 1: if you're a Milwaukee fan, you can't take that to

1209
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: the bank, because you were down sixty five to forty

1210
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: at halftime. So like, okay, let's pretend they Jaylen Brown

1211
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: misses a couple of those threes that he made in

1212
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: the first half, and like, you know, couple plays go

1213
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: your way. Okay, So now you're down fifty seven to forty. Like,

1214
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: it just doesn't make that much of a difference, Like

1215
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: you got your ass kicked. You don't get to point

1216
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: at shooting when you get your ass kicked, Okay, Like, yes,

1217
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: you made a little run in the second half, but

1218
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: I thought Boston was just trying to get out of

1219
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: that arena, you know, Like I think they would have

1220
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: held up better physically if the game was in question

1221
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: in a way that it wasn't. Overall in this series

1222
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: so far, Boston is averaging about seven more points per

1223
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: one half court possessions. That's something you can flat out

1224
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: take to the bank. Obviously, my biggest concern and the

1225
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: reason why Boston will probably lose another game at some

1226
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: point in the series, at least one more game, is

1227
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: they go through stretches where they lose their offensive identity.

1228
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: They go through stretches where they forget what has worked

1229
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: for them. This is the advantage of again, those top

1230
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: four guys I was talking about Chris Paul's, the Lucas,

1231
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: the Lebrons, and the CP three's or the yokich Is,

1232
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: they never lose their offensive identity. They're relentless with being smart.

1233
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's their advantage. Their chest masters, well pretty

1234
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: much everybody else in the league goes through like waxing

1235
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: and waning with their decision making. Well, you know, Tatum

1236
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: in particular and especially Jalen Brown can both do that

1237
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: where they just go through these phases where they start

1238
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: taking bad shots. There were some spots in the second

1239
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: half where uh, Jayson Tatum was over dribbling a little bit.

1240
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: Like there's times where they lose their offensive identity. So

1241
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: they will have stretches where they go very cold, and

1242
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: when they do, Milwaukee will beat them because they're the

1243
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: defending champs and they're very good team. But like right now,

1244
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 1: it's one one, they're gonna the biggest challenges. They're gonna

1245
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: have to win a game in Milwaukee. My guess is

1246
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 1: it will probably be Game four. But the advantage for

1247
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: Boston and the reason why I wouldn't count them out

1248
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: for Game three is physical wear and tear is one

1249
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: of the biggest impacts in this series. It will heavily

1250
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: favor Milwaukee as things progress. But Boston is three days

1251
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: off between Game two and Game three. They'll play until Saturday.

1252
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: So what a great opportunity to go into Milwaukee with

1253
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,480
Speaker 1: fresh legs, get getting Marcus Smart back and steal back

1254
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: home court advantage. That's a great opportunity for them. So

1255
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: Game three will be an interesting game to watch. But yeah,

1256
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: like I mean, it's a lot closer than than it looked. Um,

1257
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: Milwaukee fans should if you're a Milwaukee fan, you should

1258
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: absolutely think that you have a chance to win the series,

1259
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: because you absolutely do. You honest is far and away

1260
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 1: the best player on in the series, far and away

1261
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: the best player in this entire playoff run. He absolutely

1262
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: deserves to to have that that level of confidence, you

1263
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But Boston's better team. They've demonstrated

1264
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: that they're scoring better in the half court. As long

1265
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 1: as they can keep the game in the half court

1266
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: three more times this series, they should win. And and

1267
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: obviously there are weapons to like Grant Williams and al Hordford.

1268
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: Regarding Janese in single coverage, well, there. There are a

1269
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: lot of things that are going Boston's way, but there

1270
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: were some things that when Milwaukee's win in that second half,

1271
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: it's just a question of whether or not that stuff

1272
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: was real or whether it was related to Boston letting

1273
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: their foot off the gas. You mentioned the impressive job

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Speaker 1: that the Celtics have done on your Honest with kind

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Speaker 1: of their multiple options there, and he's shooting sub in

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Speaker 1: the series so far, really struggling to score fitly. How

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Speaker 1: confident are you in Boston's ability to sustain that level

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Speaker 1: and do you feel like they've kind of solved the

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Speaker 1: Honest in this series? No one's gonna solve Janice Um.

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Speaker 1: The truth of the matter is is like, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: thought that Milwaukee. I thought the Boston did a good

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Speaker 1: job of making Johannae settle early on, like Great Williams

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Speaker 1: and Al Horford both basically tried to stonewall Janice on

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Speaker 1: his on his drop steps, basically when you get him

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Speaker 1: in the post and try to back them down, or

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Speaker 1: when he would try to get ahead of steam and go.

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Speaker 1: But I thought Janice was too quick to give up

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Speaker 1: on that, and especially in the first half, you settling

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Speaker 1: for a lot of jump shots and turnarounds and things

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Speaker 1: like that. In the post threes, stuff like that, Janice

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Speaker 1: has accumulative, accumulative wear and terriffacts. So the truth of

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Speaker 1: the matter is is no matter what, no matter what

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Speaker 1: Boston does, even if they do everything perfectly, if your

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Speaker 1: Honest keeps dropping his head and trying to run people over,

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Speaker 1: eventually he's gonna break through that wall he just did.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's possible to solve your Honest.

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Speaker 1: But again, I think that Boston is the best defensive

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Speaker 1: team of this era. I think that they're uniquely equipped

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Speaker 1: to have bodies that can throw its single coverage at him.

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Speaker 1: That one of Boston's big defensive mistakes in game or

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Speaker 1: Game two was when when they would get Johannae switched

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Speaker 1: on to someone else, whether that was Rob Williams or

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Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, those were the two matchups that Janice was

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Speaker 1: attacking the most off of the other two guys. In

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Speaker 1: those situations, Boston was too quick to leave him in

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Speaker 1: single coverage. I'd have a really say simple rule, he's

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Speaker 1: on Grant single coverage, he's on ol single coverage. Anybody

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Speaker 1: else doubling the ship out of him? Right? Away, get

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Speaker 1: it out of his hands. That's gotta be the strategy.

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Speaker 1: But and I think you'll see that as the series progresses.

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Speaker 1: But overall, he's an unsolvable player. But Boston's gonna do

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Speaker 1: as good of a job on it and as anybody

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Speaker 1: else will be able to. Yeah, I mean it feels

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Speaker 1: like we've seen that. But like you said, you can't

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Speaker 1: really solve a guy who's six eleven to forty and

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Speaker 1: an absolute freak athlete in every way. But I mean

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Speaker 1: they are doing as good of a job as anybody could. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know what's ironic is I would argue

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Speaker 1: that the best defensive player in the world to put

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Speaker 1: on your honest would be Lebron because he has like

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Speaker 1: the perfect combination of sturdiness and lateral quickness and just

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Speaker 1: savvy and understanding of how to position himself between your

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Speaker 1: honest and Lebron and or between your honest and the rim.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, obviously we got to go back to

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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty for this, which is at this point

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Speaker 1: two years ago. But that performance that Lebron put on

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Speaker 1: him in Staples Center right before the right before COVID

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Speaker 1: shut the league down, was like one of the best

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Speaker 1: defensive performances I've seen on Janice just just consistently, like

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Speaker 1: and Lebron is really good with his hands to it,

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Speaker 1: like reaching without fouling and stuff like that. Like that's

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Speaker 1: the irony is he's the best player in the league

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Speaker 1: to have that type of matchup. But that's that's that's Lebron.

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Speaker 1: He's the second best player of all time. All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: that is all we have for tonight. What go ahead?

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask, um, here's the thing with

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Speaker 1: IQUI did a good job on your honest in two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen was a long time ago, and Jannest wasn't

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Speaker 1: the same level of perimeter initiator that he is now.

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Speaker 1: The other thing, too, is like he just doesn't have

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Speaker 1: that same level of sturdiness as Lebron. Lebron's like a fridge.

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Speaker 1: You're just not moving him off of his spot. Al Right, guys,

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Speaker 1: that is all we have for tonight. I sincerely appreciate

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Speaker 1: your support. There are no games tomorrow, so I'm taking

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01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: a day off. We're also going to take Friday off.

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Speaker 1: We will be back Saturday night for Game three of

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Speaker 1: Warriors Grizzlies and of Buck Celtics, couple of really really important,

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01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: really really exciting games news change of scenery to going

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Speaker 1: to Golden State and going to Milwaukee should be a

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Speaker 1: fun one. I will see you guys. Then, don't forget

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Speaker 1: guys support from the bottom of my heart. Now see

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