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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast, John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that.

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Speaker 3: Crank fucked out.

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Speaker 2: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: Forty two days between pay per views? Is that accurate?

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Speaker 4: Don't tell my boss. I'm Jones and the crack of

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Speaker 4: mic and not this one. Hey, Jason Anick, thanks for

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Speaker 4: setting up the studio. You can stop filming at any time.

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Speaker 4: Good Monday too, you, Ken Flow? How's your stick? It's

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Speaker 4: January thirteenth, twenty twenty five. In is episode five thirty

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Speaker 4: one of the Anak and Florian Podcast presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 4: The crown is yours, Ken Flow. The crown is always yours,

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Speaker 4: my man. How's your Monday going, kid?

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Speaker 5: How we doing? I'm well, I'm well.

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Speaker 2: It's a little cold, a little cold were.

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Speaker 6: A map, but uh, you know, so getting a little

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Speaker 6: bit of that Northeast weather that we used to get

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Speaker 6: in Boston.

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Speaker 5: But uh, I'm a good kid. I'm ready to rock.

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Speaker 4: So I just told my business manager, Jason Addick to

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Speaker 4: turn the fan off because it has been very cold.

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Speaker 4: Here in South Florida. One day, Ken Flow woke up

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Speaker 4: forty eight degrees. You're in South Florida down here, that's

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Speaker 4: cold on the tip. So yeah, pretty icy down here.

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Speaker 4: And we did just want to say off the top

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Speaker 4: of the show, Kenny Florida lived in Los Angeles for

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Speaker 4: a long time.

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Speaker 3: He met his wife out there.

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Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, you open a Brazilian jiu jitsu

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Speaker 4: school out there. This show was launched live in La

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Speaker 4: ten years ago in twenty fifteen. I used to spend

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Speaker 4: a lot of time out there, and my goodness, Kenny,

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Speaker 4: since we were last on the air, just so much

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Speaker 4: sadness and devastation and trauma courtesy of those Los Angeles

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Speaker 4: wildfires and just the worst kind of perfect storm of

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Speaker 4: wind and fire and Pacific Palisades is flattened, and my gosh, man,

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Speaker 4: just total devastation, and our hearts go out to all

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Speaker 4: of those people dealing with this crazy, crazy circumstance that

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Speaker 4: they've lost everything that they have known and everything that

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Speaker 4: makes them feel safe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely brutal, man. My daughter was born there.

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Speaker 6: I still have a lot of friends there, of course,

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Speaker 6: and have a few friends that that have lost everything.

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Speaker 6: My wife as well. And it's horrible, man. You know,

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Speaker 6: you think about all the things that you have, from

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Speaker 6: the memories to the home that you build to you know,

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Speaker 6: just your whole life is there. And to see it

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Speaker 6: now destroyed one of the most beautiful parts in the

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Speaker 6: United States, just a beautiful area, very wealthy area. Of course,

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Speaker 6: that doesn't make it any better or worse, but to

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Speaker 6: see the devastation that they've dealt with is really really tragic.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: So living down here in Florida, oftentimes I have found

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Speaker 4: myself as a resident boarding up my house and getting

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Speaker 4: ready to hunker down for these hurricanes. And you just

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Speaker 4: never quite prepare for total disaster. And I just can't

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Speaker 4: even imagine what these people are dealing with. And even

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Speaker 4: Spencer Pratt, who some of you may follow, who is

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Speaker 4: an avid mixed martial arts fan and I believe Brazilian

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Speaker 4: jiu jitsu practitioner who lost everything, you know, he sort

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Speaker 4: of says, I don't consider myself to be like a

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Speaker 4: possession type guy, right, but the hummingbirds that used to

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Speaker 4: come and visit him every day, and God willing, they'll

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Speaker 4: return and find him again, right there, God, and all

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Speaker 4: these animals have lost their homes, and I think you

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Speaker 4: find yourself thinking, yeah, I'm not a possession guy, but

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Speaker 4: like losing everything makes you sort of feel like you

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Speaker 4: do sort of crave something that sort of made you

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Speaker 4: feel safe and sound. So my goodness, man, to all

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Speaker 4: of those people, you know, I hope to be able

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Speaker 4: to greet and hug some of you as we descend

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Speaker 4: upon La for UFC three eleven. I believe my boss

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Speaker 4: Ari Emmanuel lost his house, if I'm not mistaken. So

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Speaker 4: a lot of people just completely devastated, and we've been

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Speaker 4: thinking about you twenty four to seven. A lot to

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Speaker 4: get to on the program today, though. Ray Longo going

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Speaker 4: to join us in his customary slot that's coming up

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Speaker 4: eleven thirty am Eastern, about ten minutes from now. And

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Speaker 4: thanks to everybody joining us live here today on the

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Speaker 4: DraftKings YouTube channel. Sportsnet MMA reporter Aaron Braunsteadter is going

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Speaker 4: to join us, and then later this week, probably forty

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Speaker 4: eight hours from now, Ken Flow Petrie their predictions and

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Speaker 4: best bets for UFC three eleven, and quickly on that note,

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Speaker 4: and I know you guys want to hear Kenny Florian's voice,

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Speaker 4: but somehow's keeping off the top of the show today. So,

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Speaker 4: as many of our avid viewers and listeners know, we

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Speaker 4: are allowing you guys once again, for the first time

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Speaker 4: in several years, the chance to get on the air.

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Speaker 4: Several years ago we had a bank of two hundred

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Speaker 4: and fifty listeners who we would have on the air

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Speaker 4: to make picks against Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: What we are going to do this year.

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Speaker 4: We have a Google form that will be populated on

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Speaker 3: We need your name, your email address, your social.

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Speaker 4: draw from that group. You will get a chance to

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Speaker 4: go head to headgainst Kenny Florida and Brian Petrie on

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Speaker 4: our segment called Place your Bets. And I would just

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Speaker 4: say as an aside, lot of handicappers, Yanni the Greek

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Speaker 4: I and Parker Brian Petrie got their start on this show.

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Speaker 4: They have gone on to become gainfully employed in this space.

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Speaker 4: So now is your chance in twenty twenty five find

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Speaker 4: Absolutely love that stinger a lot. To get to Ken Flow.

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Speaker 4: on that later, but I would like to begin with

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Speaker 4: Mackenzie Dern, whom you and Brian Petrie both forecasted to

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Speaker 4: get it done as underdog at the Apex, and get

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Speaker 4: it done she does. With four seconds to go Ken

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Speaker 4: Flowing round three, she finds the armbar and as you

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Speaker 4: appropriately put it last week, on the ground, she has

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Speaker 4: no equal in this division or really in the women's game.

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Speaker 4: And you know, Amanda, heboss paid the price. Mackenzie Dern

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, and Hebus is very good, obviously a

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Speaker 6: when they first fought, I just thought that Mackenzie Dern.

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Speaker 5: Had made way more gains when.

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Speaker 6: It comes to the improvement of her game than Hebus had,

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Speaker 6: But still all it did was allow Dern to invite

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Speaker 6: And that's ultimately where she won this fight. Her ability

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Speaker 6: And then once on the ground, she really took over

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Speaker 6: one of Mackenzie Dern's specialty, so tough tough to stop

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Speaker 4: So in the waning seconds of the round, as you

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Speaker 4: just shows just the danger factor. I guess the Mackenzie durn.

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Speaker 5: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 6: And you know, there's a lot of people that are

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Speaker 6: good at Brazilian jutsu, right, and there's a difference between

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Speaker 6: someone is truly elite, right, John Anick, you put that

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Speaker 5: He's going to crush it.

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Speaker 6: Other guys that that are not his experienced aren't gonna

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Speaker 6: in the mouth, she has your arm. It's over, dude,

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Speaker 6: it's over. That's what the elite do. You give them

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Speaker 6: that opportunity, they're going to take advantage and they will finish.

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Speaker 4: So from a coaching perspective, Amanda he Boss is a

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Speaker 4: per se, but sometimes I'm thinking, man, like, I know,

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Speaker 4: it's cool, like to you know, maybe come close to

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Speaker 4: Like I just feel like, in terms of path of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it's a great point. I would say that

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Speaker 6: a couple of the situations where Mackenzie was clinched up

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Speaker 6: would have been taken down. Now, however, that's one thing, right, Okay,

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Speaker 5: But what about getting your posture, keeping your head above

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Speaker 6: Like you said, if there's any chance or if there's

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Speaker 6: you in and you feel that you have a higher

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Speaker 6: percentage to beat them, let's say on the feet, why

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Speaker 6: wouldn't you just keep it on the feet for as

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Speaker 6: So, yeah, I think there was a little bit of

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Speaker 6: mistakes played there from heboss. You know, she was playing

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Speaker 6: think it was just some you know, decision making that

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Speaker 4: And not to get too deep on you, but it

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Speaker 4: really is so applicable in life. I've been up in

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Speaker 4: front of classrooms teaching broadcasting, and I talk a lot

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Speaker 4: about directing your life towards things that you are good at. Now,

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Speaker 4: sometimes human beings find themselves in a position where, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it now. I'm not advising you necessarily to do that,

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Speaker 4: but you know, part of what I have tried to

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Speaker 4: eventual radio host, and now doing TV. I never want

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Speaker 4: I'm okay at this pretty good. Maybe try to direct

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Speaker 4: ra Jeni Doba, you got andraje and Lemo. Yeah, mcken bro,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's knocking on that door, you know.

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Speaker 4: Here, my favorite website on the internet. Incidentally, tapology dot com.

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Speaker 5: Hey Hey, hey guys, Hey, how you feeling?

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Speaker 3: Ray?

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Speaker 2: They good? Ben had a rough week?

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Speaker 2: I feel like a million bucks man, there we go.

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Speaker 4: You look like about nine hundred thousand. Why was your

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Speaker 2: I tought everybody at the gym is sick, that nona

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Speaker 2: He's just aware that people have been sick this week.

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Speaker 2: You last week. Last week was probably the worst that day. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: I'm either forget full or a bad listener.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: That is one of my resolutions to be a better listener.

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Speaker 3: I don't always listen. I don't always fucking listen.

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Speaker 4: All right, Hey, we have so much to get to

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Speaker 4: twenty nine minutes with you. It is UFC three eleven

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Speaker 4: Fight week. You are going to, in whatever condition, descend

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Speaker 4: upon Inglewood, California. May Rob Dwallash Willie in defensive his

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh man, very excited. Wait, I look like a

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Speaker 4: Well, we pay a lot of money for our cameras.

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Speaker 5: Just been out in the sun.

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Speaker 2: But that's Okay, wow, this is this is rough.

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Speaker 4: You know what, though, your voice is one of my

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Speaker 2: Truly, thank you, John.

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Speaker 3: A lot of our listenership feels the same.

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Speaker 4: So I'm very excited, as you know, for Morob Dwallish,

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Speaker 3: Doesn't he sound excited, Kenny?

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Speaker 2: Do you have a specific question.

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Speaker 2: Look, I'll tell you one one big key. I think

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Speaker 2: Well, look again, the guy comes from a great team,

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Speaker 2: to do their thing and they fight and that's it.

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00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 2: You know.

437
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I hope they push each other. And these stairdowns

438
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 4: are going to be electric. It's going to be amazing.

439
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 4: It's gonna be absolutely amazing.

440
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 2: And you remember what Yan did to him. He gave

441
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: him the fucking he gave him the fucking right to

442
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: the throat that time. Yeah, Denny, Yeah, pulled out some

443
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: old food tricks. It's scary.

444
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 3: So there is no denying that.

445
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 4: Morob Dwallish Willie is an underrated, underappreciated striker, and I

446
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 4: think this matchup affords him the opportunity to prove as much. Yeah,

447
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 4: Umarnermongo Matov has a ton of amateur mma experience. He's

448
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 4: eighteen and zero as a pro, and even if his

449
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 4: UFC strength of schedule isn't great, top to bottom, his

450
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 4: win over Corey Sandhagen as a signature win I think

451
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 4: is as good as any other win. I don't know

452
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 4: that you can well no to me, Like Sean O'Malley

453
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 4: was criticized for getting a championship opportunity. But to me,

454
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 4: if you beat a Pyotr Yaan singularly or a Corey Sandhagen,

455
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 4: that's enough for me.

456
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 5: No.

457
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh, you gotta beat sand Haagan and Rob font I.

458
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,640
Speaker 2: Mean, listen, but there's a difference. I mean O'Malley dominated

459
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 2: his wins. I mean this that fight with san Haagen,

460
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 2: you had to get both round toma. That was a

461
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 2: close freaking fight. I'm gonna say every round he stole

462
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 2: with thirty seconds to go, and you had to give

463
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 2: him the round. But watching that fight is not you

464
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: can't say one guy. I could see both guys coming

465
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: out of that fight thinking they won. I mean, obviously

466
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: youmar won, but that was a really close, close fight.

467
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: So it wasn't like he went in there and did

468
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 2: what al Jo did to San Heygen. He strangled him

469
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: in a minute and a half. Sure, this won five

470
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: fucking rounds. Was a really competitive fight. Anybody it says

471
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: otherwise doesn't know what they're looking at.

472
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 4: I wasn't even intended to have the conversation. I mean,

473
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 4: Sean O'Malley versus pyotr Jan was a very competitive fight

474
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 4: as well, and the UFC did book and say.

475
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: What you want about it.

476
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 4: Umar and Mago Mattov against Song You Dong, and that

477
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 4: had fans like me thinking, what are we doing? Umar

478
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: should fight for the title. Now that might just speak

479
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 4: to my fan appetite. And I know that doesn't dovetail

480
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 4: with Morob's opinion nor yours, But I was actually just

481
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 4: going to say, like I think of all these things

482
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: that Umar has more experienced than you think pre UFC,

483
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 4: the amateur stuff, I don't know that you can out

484
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 4: Will Morob. Right, we have so many fighters that have

485
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 4: this unbelievable will that a human being like me can't

486
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 4: relate to. But I think the one thing for me

487
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 4: that sets Morob apart, whether it's a terrible weight cut

488
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 4: or him being ill, it doesn't even matter, Like he

489
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 4: just is able to hit this mental place Kenny and

490
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,959
Speaker 4: Ray that that a human being like me. You know,

491
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: I get off the treadmill at that point time.

492
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, John, I'm agreeing. I agree one hundred

493
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 2: percent with and I'm with you I'm getting off the treadmill. Also,

494
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like he just has that

495
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 2: extra gear. He's he's he's a different cat. But it's, uh,

496
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: it's it's really an exciting matchup. Look, I'm glad they

497
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: made the fight, you know, I mean, I'm not. I

498
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: mean I wish you know, Morob got whatever you if

499
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: he wanted to fight, then that's fine. But yeah, it's

500
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 2: it's it's I'm excited. It's going to be a great fight.

501
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 6: I'd imagine the only way you could replicate a fight

502
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 6: with Morob Dualashvili would be to have like fresh opponents

503
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 6: coming in every like minute, every minute and a half.

504
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 6: I mean, that's kind of the only way you can

505
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 6: prepare for something like that because you know who's gonna

506
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 6: be in your face.

507
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 5: He's gonna be pressuring you.

508
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: Right. But again, Kenny, I agree with you, and I's

509
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: try something I would one hundred percent do. But uh,

510
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: you have to have the same intensity and that's hard.

511
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 2: But you get you know what I'm saying, Like everybody,

512
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: everybody's going to try to implement their own style. When

513
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 2: you do that, it's hard to get everybody to act

514
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 2: like Morob. So you might get it for a little bit,

515
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 2: then you're gonna get a breathe somewhere. This guy's pressure

516
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 2: is just NonStop, so it's gonna be very hard to

517
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: replicate that. But again, I would never underestimate those guys. Look,

518
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 2: those guys are on a tear. They're on a fucking tear,

519
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: those guys. So I think this will be the first

520
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: time they get stopped, not not stopped that way, but

521
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 2: stopped in their momentum. And I'm hoping Morob's the guy

522
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: to do.

523
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 4: It, you know, well, for your sake, we are hopeful

524
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 4: that that is the result. Kenny Florian will give his prediction,

525
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 4: I believe, coming up Wednesday here on the DraftKings YouTube channel.

526
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: It is my prediction that Kenny is going to pick

527
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 4: umar r Mango Medoff. And I only say that because

528
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: I'm a dick.

529
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 6: I still don't know. I honestly don't even know which

530
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 6: way I'm gonna go. I I watched fight footage of

531
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 6: both these guys. I'm even more confused than I was before,

532
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 6: because what's so interesting is that, you know, you look

533
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 6: at Umara right and his kicking game.

534
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 5: It's fantastic. It's going to be better than Morob's.

535
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 6: But then how is the kicking game if you get

536
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 6: a guy like Marob who's constantly backing you up, so

537
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 6: that might be nullified there. So again, there's so many

538
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 6: different ways that this fight could play out, which is

539
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 6: why it's so fascinating, which is why it's so exciting.

540
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 6: And uh, honestly, I'm I'm still confusing, not which way.

541
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 5: I'm still unsure which way I'm going to go.

542
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: Got He's got a very very tricky front kick, Kenny.

543
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: It's like a yah, you know what I mean, Like

544
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 2: he's able to get that knea pause and then push

545
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: it out. He's got a I think he's got a

546
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: decent check hook coming in buy again. And if you

547
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: look at the San Nagan fight, I think what a

548
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: fight there was, Nate Manus, I mean nothing, right right,

549
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing like like again this this doesn't even

550
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 2: mean anything. I'm just not seeing a world beata you

551
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: know what I mean, You're not you're not seeing that

552
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson like he's killing everybody up to the title. Yeah,

553
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: he's winning and he's and that's what got him there.

554
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: But uh again, I I would I like the Sanhagan win,

555
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 2: but that was a very close fight, and I think

556
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: if he would have stopped Sanhagen, it would have been

557
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: a totally different Yeah. Oh, I'd have a totally different opinion.

558
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: But that was a man. If there's ever a guy

559
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: that's just in close fights at Sanhagen man, you know,

560
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 2: but he's right, He's right where he wants to be too,

561
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: and he just you know, that extra one percent seems

562
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 2: to be evading him.

563
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, So ray Longo will be in Morob's corner.

564
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: We're very excited for that.

565
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 4: And what else can be said about ray Longo, by

566
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 4: the way, who is on a different coast, and his

567
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 4: value in that corner and during week is such and

568
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 4: so high that he will be right there alongside mirob

569
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: Dwallis Willie. The only other thing I had real quick

570
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 4: in my notes Morob's old fashioned way of cutting weight right.

571
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 4: And it's interesting to hear him talk about this Kenny right,

572
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: because when you water load right, there is a chance,

573
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 4: and I know a lot of athletes do it, that

574
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: it can go sideways and maybe the unload doesn't go

575
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 4: optimally right. Whereas if you literally George Saint Pierre's style,

576
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 4: if you follow that psychopath on Instagram, this dude's doing

577
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: a dry fast, right. Forget Dana White dragis of water

578
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 4: going seventy two hours. George Saint Pierre doing a fucking

579
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: dry fast, right. Morob feels like he lessens the margin

580
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: for error by just not ingesting anything.

581
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: Complete psychopath.

582
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: But sometimes I do think that as he gets older

583
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: and makes, you know, sixteen week turnarounds, that it could

584
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: be a factor.

585
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 3: That's all.

586
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: I didn't know he did it that way now. I

587
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: mean that's like the old school wrestling way.

588
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 6: And you're right, John, it's interesting that might affect him

589
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 6: at a certain point, you know, as he gets older

590
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 6: or after a certain amount of fights.

591
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 5: I don't know.

592
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 6: I mean, it's not affecting his energy on fight night,

593
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 6: so shit, I don't know.

594
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, John, I think I think you were there.

595
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Was right after we did the interviews that time. The

596
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: I can't think of the kid's name from the PI,

597
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: but he gave him like a Kenny was like a

598
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: little whip cream or something, I mean, like a half

599
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 2: an And Rob was like no, he was like he's there,

600
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, so he's he doesn't look,

601
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't let anybody come to his weightcuts either, which

602
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: I was on his own. Oh yeah, yeah, wow, well no,

603
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: because I made that mistake. I was like, what are

604
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: we doing form Rob's weightcut? And Algia goes, wait, don't

605
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 2: you remember he threw us out of the room less time?

606
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: I go, I don't remember that, and I Matt calls up.

607
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: I called Matago. I think I'm gonna head over to

608
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: Morob's weightcut. He goes, he doesn't want us to. Don't

609
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: you remember when he threw us out of the room? Dude?

610
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: I had no, I don't remember anything at this point,

611
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: but yeah, and then h yeah, that's uh, that's fasbt.

612
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: He's going to do his own thing, and I don't

613
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: know it's it's uh, if hey listen, if it works,

614
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: it works. But yes, he listen. He does everything like

615
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: he does everything.

616
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm like the stuffer in silence man say yeah.

617
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 4: Ad A confluent podcast poll question, who wins the UFC

618
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: Bendway title fight at UFC three eleven.

619
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: Umar and Malgo Mettov.

620
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: Who's the Monus three twenty five betting favorite or Morob

621
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 4: Dwallis Willy who is plus two sixty right now dead heat?

622
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: Fifty percent of votes on each side and we didn't one.

623
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: For Islama Kashev and Arman Sayer Kiana.

624
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: If you are curious, seventy three percent of respondents do

625
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 4: like Islama Kashev. But Ray, When the sportsbook creates a

626
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: betting line, they're trying to create two way action, right,

627
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: And I am always curious to see where this betting

628
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: line may close relative to where it's at right now,

629
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 4: you know, to see if some people, relative to those

630
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 4: poll results, right, if the action will dovetail in that

631
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 4: direction and people start plucking down on Morob plus two

632
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: sixty or so.

633
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: I mean, that is a that is a huge number

634
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: for a defending champion.

635
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 2: That's a yeah, that's a that's way higher than I

636
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: thought it would be. Look, yeah, the fans are saying

637
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: it's fifty to fifty, and I go with that. I

638
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: think that fight it should be a very small marginy

639
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 2: the way you're going.

640
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 4: Right, Morob as a stylist, right, we talk about the

641
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: will if I'm even allowed to bet on these fights.

642
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 4: He's not a guy that I'm betting on or against

643
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 4: because my goodness, right, I mean all of a sudden, right,

644
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 4: we talk about right, like the always bet on Cardio

645
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 4: T shirts ABC, Right, Like when in doubt pick the

646
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 4: guy with.

647
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: I love it John ABC, Baby.

648
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 4: Well Morob, it's like, you know, imagine they hit the

649
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 4: stools for around four Like I do believe Humar deserves

650
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 4: to be the betting favorite. I thought maybe minus one

651
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 4: sixty minus one eighty skill for skill, but minus three

652
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: twenty five against this dude who's won eleven in a row,

653
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: who has no comp.

654
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: But against some really big names.

655
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 5: Killers, right, I don't know.

656
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that the fact that they tried to kill

657
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: him to get to the title will backfire and at

658
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: that experience, he's going to take him too the octagon.

659
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: He's got the momentum, he's got the confidence, he's faced

660
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: big punches, he's face got really good guy. I hope

661
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: that makes the difference. That's that that would be my guess,

662
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But that's a big, big number,

663
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: and I think it should have been way smaller than that.

664
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: Man, what being on your cell phone too?

665
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 4: Do you any chance you can silent that pig for

666
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: the rest of the Ray Longo minute today?

667
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 2: I shouldn't even think it's very popular. Yeah, I don't

668
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: think so. I didn't hear it goddamn thing. Wait, what

669
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: are the odds on? What are the odds on the

670
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: fight going the distance? Ah?

671
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: Maybe Cody can chase that for you.

672
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,719
Speaker 4: I'm hosting a live podcast right now, by the way,

673
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 4: Annakaporan podcast live on a Monday, thanks to everybody joining

674
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 4: us live on the DraftKings YouTube channel.

675
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: I would like to read a quote here.

676
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 4: From an elite human being and an elite mixed martial

677
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: arts fighter in UFC Hall of Fame or his name

678
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: Habib Nirmago metof Ray. Did you see what happened to

679
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 4: him on Frontier Airlines?

680
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: Wow? Crazy?

681
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 4: All right, let me just read his statement and then

682
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 4: I'd like to get you I did not see it, Yeah,

683
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: so I want to hear this. So first of all,

684
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 4: this is the statement from Habib Nrmago Medal. I guess

685
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: I should set up what happened to my eyes just

686
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 4: for ken flow on those who didn't see it. So

687
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: it looked like he was in an exit row in

688
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 4: the window seat, and maybe a flight attendant racially profiling

689
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 4: or whatever the fuck he or she was doing didn't

690
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: like him in that seat, and I guess they asked

691
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 4: him to move and he decided to take himself off

692
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 4: the aircraft as opposed to move. Here's the quote from

693
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: Habib and I hope I'm getting the facts correct. First

694
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: of all, I need to clarify that it was fly

695
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: Frontier and not Alaska. Air lady who comes to me

696
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: with questions was very rude from the very beginning. Even

697
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 4: though I speak very decent English, I would say beyond

698
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 4: decent and can understand everything and agreed to assist, she

699
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: still insists on removing me from my seat. What was

700
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 4: the base for that racial national or other one? I'm

701
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: not sure, but after two minutes of conversation, she called

702
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 4: security and I was deplaned from this aircraft After an

703
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 4: hour and a half, I bought another airline and left

704
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 4: to my destination. I did my best to stay common respectful,

705
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: as you can see on the video, but those crew

706
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: members could do better next time and just be nice

707
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: with clients.

708
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 5: Right.

709
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: Makes me embarrassed to be an American when I see

710
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 4: something like this. Hopefully this woman or man will be

711
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 4: relieved of his or her duties. Ray long go what

712
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 4: do you have?

713
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of unfortunate. I mean, if if what

714
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: we're hearing and well even he's saying that it's just

715
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you want me to say?

716
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: It's wrong? And you know, I mean we could go

717
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: to his two sides to every story. He'd love to

718
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: hear a response from I have it, Oh yeah, from Frontier.

719
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me get this Ken forward.

720
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 4: Yeah here Airlines they issued a statement saying they asked

721
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: him three times, perhaps to assist, he ignored them, which

722
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: is an FAA flag. They asked him to move to

723
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: an upgraded seat.

724
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: He refused.

725
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 4: There then required to deplay in him, and they refunded

726
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 4: him his money, right, god, Ken, excuse me go ahead?

727
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 6: Maybe they maybe they thought just by looking at him

728
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 6: that he wasn't capable of lifting that door. You know,

729
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 6: you got to be capable, and they just didn't think

730
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 6: he was.

731
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 5: He was that guy. That's unfortunate. Man, that's too bad.

732
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: And and again so so according to Kabib, that other

733
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 6: stuff never happened. He didn't refuse, he did respond, and

734
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 6: all that stuff right, because you have the thing, you know,

735
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 6: you gotta make eye contact, you gotta look him, you

736
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 6: got verbal Yes, that whole thing did.

737
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 5: Did Did Habib say that that all took place? And

738
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 5: they're full of.

739
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: H I mean, do we just rush right to the

740
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: racial profileing is that it.

741
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 4: Maybe I am rushing to Habib Normago Madow's defense, And

742
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: I'm glad that we were able to at least present

743
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: the counter side from frontier airlines. But whatever video I saw,

744
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: I didn't like the way that he was being treated.

745
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 4: And Jesse Ventura and others have come out and said

746
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 4: they don't fly commercially because they are made to feel

747
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 4: like a criminal every time they fly, whether it's being

748
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 4: padded down or American flight attendants in general, these American airlines,

749
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 4: I'm not saying AA right, but these airlines out of

750
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 4: the United States of America, when it comes to hospitality

751
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: in general, cordiality don't even come close to the way

752
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 4: you get treated on these international airlines. And sometimes it's

753
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 4: embarrassing to be a fucking American when it comes to

754
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: the way these people TSA people right in LA and

755
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: New York treat me like, you know, a bag of dicks.

756
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a lot of the job. I

757
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 5: think customer service in general sucks. But yeah, I'll tell you.

758
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: Look, I'm gonna tell you something. I tell you a

759
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: funny story being who the hell was fighting and we

760
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: were going to Melbourne and we fly into city. Yeah,

761
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 2: you're up twenty hours at that point, right or whatever.

762
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: You you're flying twenty hours. And as I'm getting my

763
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: bigs to go, I'm on, yeah, I think, I'm I

764
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: think we had a probably redoce security. And as I'm

765
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: waiting for my stuff that there's a female agent. There

766
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: tsa agent. This is what I hear as I'm walking

767
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: by mafia, Mafia, mafia. What I heard. You can't make

768
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: this ship up.

769
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know it's funny, like I wanta mob

770
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: mob Yeah now is that fucking no?

771
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: No, no, you said, I just look. I laughed it off.

772
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 2: I didn't give it me, but that's kind of racial

773
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 2: profile and I just, you know, I laughed and I

774
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: kept walking. But it is funny. When I get to

775
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: uh Oh, I can't think it was Benil Daryush's cousin.

776
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: He was very what a great guy. He had us

777
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: at his gym the whole time. But I said, has

778
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: you got guys got any move be in fluence? He goes, oh, man,

779
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? But what he explained to me

780
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: was almost like New York in the eighties, Kenny. So

781
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: I'm walking around going. I think it's a one little thing,

782
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: you know, like on the East Coast. You know what

783
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: I mean, he said. When I talked to him, he said, now,

784
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: one hundred percent huge, is what he told me. I

785
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: don't know so, but you know, you get racial, you

786
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: got to take everything with a grain of salt.

787
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: No, I just kept yeah. I mean, I'm fine. I'm

788
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: not all that fired up, I guess a little bit.

789
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: But it's okay for the Italian guy to get racially profile.

790
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: It's okay.

791
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 6: I was gonna say that she should stay out of

792
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 6: your business just because you're in the mob.

793
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 5: It doesn't mean you know.

794
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kenny, I don't think she was being It wasn't

795
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: a mean thing she was being. I swear a guy.

796
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: I think she was being funny. And I literally delirious

797
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: when I'm going through there. At that point, I just

798
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: started laughing. But whatever it is, what it is, what

799
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: are you gonna do?

800
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: Well, maybe I shouldn't make generalization.

801
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 4: Certainly, I have said on these airwaves before that when

802
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 4: I go to Atlanta, the TSA agents make you feel

803
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: like a million dollars. And Atlanta, of course is in

804
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 4: the US, and southern hospitality I think is a real thing.

805
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 4: But like when I go on Delta and we got

806
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: to get back to the MMA, I notice a noticeable

807
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: increase in just cordiality and congeniality. Just the Delta flight

808
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: attendants are nicer, and I think it stems from them

809
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: having a great CEO.

810
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: So I listen, I flight Delta all the time. I

811
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: have no complaints.

812
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 3: There you go, there you go.

813
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: Let's let's let's end it like this first and very unfortunately.

814
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: You're trying to get out of here seven minutes early.

815
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: Now, no, very unfortunate. I agree with you. It's you know,

816
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: to be an American's embarrassing if that's what's going on.

817
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: But you know, they could be a communication lack of

818
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: communication a little bit. They get weird with those doors.

819
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: I've been you. They're looking at people, you know what

820
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: I mean. And I've seen the move people out of it.

821
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: That's not the first time. Yeah, you know, they might

822
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: have some little girl sitting there, you know what I mean,

823
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 2: like a younger lady who's weighs one hundred pounds. I

824
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: think they get her right out of there, you know

825
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 2: what I mean.

826
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: So I don't know, Well, hey, I mean, if I

827
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 4: work for Frontier Airlines and I listened to the Anicmploring podcast.

828
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 4: I'm going to send Ray Longo some flight vouchers for

829
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 4: uh well.

830
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: First off, John, that's my second question to could beep

831
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 2: could be why are you flying Frontier rail Line? I mean,

832
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: what is that? All?

833
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: Right?

834
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: Can we get them? Can we get him on a

835
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: regular rail.

836
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 5: Line first class? Yeah?

837
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 2: Yah, listen man, Frontier all those I wouldn't get on

838
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: those airlines if you paid me, right, it's not you see,

839
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: remember when I used to have to like a reality

840
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: show where people up at the desk screaming at everybody.

841
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: You know, they're always canceling flights or something. So I

842
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 2: get the help.

843
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, what do you?

844
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe next time the gam track, Right.

845
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 3: That's funny, that's funny. Yeah right.

846
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 4: I mean I don't know if he was coming from

847
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 4: northern California or yeah.

848
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know Frontier rail lines. Have you

849
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: ever flown Frontier, Kenny?

850
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 5: I don't think I have.

851
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, John, certainly are not going to start now. No,

852
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 4: And I would not flying Spirit Airlines now either. Okay,

853
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 4: we have about five more minutes with.

854
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: Ray Longo now a good time.

855
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 3: So we were sort of hoping that for twenty twenty five.

856
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: You would come up with, you know, Longo's large item,

857
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 4: Longo's large lemon. You would bring something to the table,

858
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 4: a topic. And when Cody reminded you of this privately,

859
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: you were like, I got nothing.

860
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: So he sent you five ideas.

861
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: I thought they were all right, but it doesn't sound

862
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 4: like you have anything this week. So I would rather

863
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 4: table that and talk about Santiago Ponzinibio unless you got

864
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: something you're burning on.

865
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, nothing I'm burning on. I don't even

866
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: know what the hell I'm supposed to be doing about.

867
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: The Conz Nippio fight was unbelievable.

868
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: The fight card was unbelievable. There's a lot to get into.

869
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 2: Here, islands.

870
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting.

871
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 4: Carlston Harris out of Guyana, sort of trying to up

872
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 4: end the post fight interview, like Santiago Ponzinibio has lost

873
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 4: some split this sions that he really deserved to win.

874
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: Finally knocks a guy out, he gets no bonus, and

875
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 4: Carlston Harris gets to like, come in and you know,

876
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 4: talk about you know that maybe the fight should have

877
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 4: gone longer. Anyway, Santiago Pontinibo is one of my broadcast partners.

878
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: He's an absolute warrior. At times, his body has failed

879
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 4: him at times, maybe the matchmakers have failed him. Just

880
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: feel good for a good guy getting a big win,

881
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 4: even if no bus.

882
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, listen man, heart and determination and what was

883
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: he down twice? He was down once in each round.

884
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 2: I think his ability to endure that type of shit

885
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: and come back was phenomenal. It was it's it was.

886
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: I think it was a feel good moment. You know,

887
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: it's almost like a Rocky story but you know, on

888
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: a lesser level obviously, but really really good to see

889
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: and uh yeah it was was Uh was crazy.

890
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 5: That's how he made his name on The Ultimate Fighter.

891
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 6: I mean he was like like the comeback kid, uh,

892
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 6: you know, would do that repeatedly and did it again

893
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 6: against Harris Man. And I think John you mentioning his health,

894
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 6: I think it was important because this was probably the

895
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 6: first fight in a very long time or I actually

896
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 6: saw him move really well it's dealing with anything. That

897
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 6: was the best he's looked, I guess physically athletically in

898
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 6: a very very long time, and he got a great result.

899
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 6: That that dude is tough as nails.

900
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 4: Man another guy with just sheer will to get the

901
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 4: job done. What did you think about the Roman Koppolov

902
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: Chris Curtis fight, Ray, if people didn't see it, it

903
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 4: ends with one second to go the TKO courtesy of

904
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 4: that Kopolov headkick. A lot being made of the Mark

905
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 4: Smith stoppage there, and I think, quite frankly for me,

906
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 4: not nearly enough being made of Roman Koppolov. Like, can

907
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 4: we celebrate the win and not just lean into the controversy?

908
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Uh yeah, Look, you know Curtis is a good dude.

909
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: You could tell so what we don't know.

910
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: Roman's a good dude because he doesn't speak English.

911
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: Although you know Roman's a good dude because you know,

912
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: he kicked him and the bulls poked him in the eyes,

913
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: but he didn't want to hit him after he knocked

914
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 2: him down, So he's he's cool. I mean, he made

915
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: the decision after he kicked him in the nuts and

916
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: gouged his eyes out, he was gonna be not. I

917
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: don't want to hit the guy. He's got a family.

918
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 2: He's got a family. Kenny. Oh, yeah, you're good. It's

919
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: all good, Kenny, it's all good. What are we talking

920
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: about you? He didn't me, what do you want to

921
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: make or do you want to you want to give

922
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: the guy a compliment for dirty fight? What are we

923
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: talking about? Well? What it? No?

924
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 4: I mean, I I appreciate the comedy, but what did

925
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 4: you think of the fight and the stoppage?

926
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: I guess okay, the fight was unbelievable. The stoppage if

927
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 2: we just break it down to the stoppage. Look, I

928
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: think he was on his way to losing that fight,

929
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: so the ref could have saved him from another one

930
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: or two big shots. But Copple of one hundred percent

931
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: did the wrong thing by walking away. He should have

932
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: just finished the fight and then we don't have a

933
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: controversy and you know all this, you know, the other

934
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: stuff about he's got a family and stuff. Yeah, that's

935
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 2: that's the whole point. He wants to you know, he

936
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: wants to go out the right way or it's going

937
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 2: to leave you know, some open ended stuff in his mind.

938
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: But uh, what great fight? Uh stoppage? I don't you

939
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: know at that point, only because like who was ahead

940
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: on the score cards? Do we know that it was tied?

941
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 3: Roman was going to win the third round?

942
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: Right? So you know, I think that has to go

943
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: into it a little bit. At the end of the day,

944
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 2: he probably saved him one or two shots that could

945
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 2: have had a bigger effect on his future. So he's

946
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: tough his nails. You know, that guy doesn't want to

947
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 2: go out like that, So your heart has to go

948
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: out to him. He wants to finish the fight. But

949
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: at the end of the day it might not have

950
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: been that bad.

951
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 6: But you know, Ken, yeah, listen, I think that you know,

952
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 6: for couple off, whether he was going to you know,

953
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 6: move forward to finish that fight or not, I think

954
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 6: really wouldn't have mattered because Mark Smith at that point

955
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 6: was committed to stop that fight. Like I don't even

956
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 6: know if he was looking at copple off. He just

957
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 6: jumped in there and just kind of wait, mad it off.

958
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 6: And for Curtis, you know, Chris wasn't getting up from

959
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 6: that shot. He just kind of like crumpled to the ground,

960
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 6: made no attempt of even getting up right.

961
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 5: Right, made no attempt of getting up.

962
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 6: And I'm like, for me, people are like, well, you know,

963
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 6: I think that the referee shouldn't have stopped it because

964
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 6: there's only one second left. It's like, yeah, Gaechee had

965
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 6: one second left in that fight against Holloway too, you know, like, oh,

966
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 6: I feel better about it because it's a decision as

967
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 6: opposed to a knockout, Like okay, I kind of get

968
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 6: that as a fighter, But Mark Smith has no idea

969
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 6: at that point. His concern is with the fighter and

970
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,959
Speaker 6: if they're safe or if he feels that they're not.

971
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 5: Going to be safe.

972
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 2: Right, that's why he's.

973
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 5: Stopping the fight.

974
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 6: He's not thinking about the fighter's record or looking at

975
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 6: the clock instead of looking at what's transpiring in front

976
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 6: of him. His concern are the fighters themselves, not the time,

977
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,839
Speaker 6: not the record, not anything else.

978
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 5: So I don't know.

979
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 6: I think people need to think about like what's actually

980
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 6: happening in real time, and what the concern for the

981
00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 6: referee is.

982
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: What the job of the referee is right now.

983
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: If you the referee, you were one hundred percent did

984
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: the right thing, if you thought you were going to

985
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 2: save that guy. You're there to protect the fighters. So

986
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: he did the right thing. And it's the type of

987
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: knockout John where his legs went, but you know his

988
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: brain was still functioning. So I agree with Kenny. I

989
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 2: don't think he could have gotten up, or you would

990
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: have been wobbling around, which would have opened him up

991
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: to another one of two big shots. But it's the

992
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: type of thing that he went down, but his brain

993
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: one hundred percent was working like he could. It's almost

994
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: like when Murray's hit Morale, you know, his legs buckled

995
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: like the same way. But he was totally totally hear it.

996
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 5: I'll say this.

997
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 6: It was the second time he was rocked in the fight,

998
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 6: like he was, I need to go down. But also

999
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 6: I would argue that if if your brain isn't communicating

1000
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 6: with your body, then the was wrong with your brain.

1001
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: Well that's when you do when you're doing the dance

1002
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: like that, that's what's happening, you know what I mean.

1003
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: When you get hit, you know, like on the on

1004
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: the butt, you're just out. You go down and this

1005
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: was holy shit, where are my legs? You know what

1006
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: I mean? Like, why are my legs not working? But

1007
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: you know, so it's a it's a little tricky, I

1008
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: guess that way. But yeah, I think at the end

1009
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 2: of the day, like Kenny said, look, Mark Smith's job

1010
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: is to protect a fighter, and I think that's one

1011
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: hundred percent what he did. He wasn't looking to have

1012
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 2: a controversy, or he wasn't looking to, you know, give

1013
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: Kpolov an advantage. He felt by what he looked at

1014
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: the way that guy went down, that he had to

1015
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: step in and save him, and that that's it. That's

1016
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: the end of the story. I got one hundred percent

1017
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 2: no problem to that. On the flip side of my

1018
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: Hawk goes out the curse because we know he's a

1019
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: warrior and we know he wants to keep going no

1020
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 2: matter what. So it kind of sucks. But Mark Smith

1021
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 2: did he did the right thing, for sure.

1022
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: I understand there were fouls in the fight, but I

1023
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 4: just don't like the under celebration of TKO wins like this,

1024
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 4: and even when the guy gets his post fight interview,

1025
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 4: the lead in is controversy. And as far as I'm concerned,

1026
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 4: Curtis got absolutely rocked more than once.

1027
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 3: In that third round.

1028
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 4: My issue in terms of the officiating is the corrective

1029
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: behavior I see from Mark Smith later in the evening

1030
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: when I thought Carlston Harris could have been effectively removed

1031
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 4: from his fighting duties and Santiago Ponzinibio needs to nearly

1032
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 4: kill a man. So that's what I don't like is

1033
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 4: the Keith Peterson esque referee pivot to change the way

1034
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 4: you are refereeing based upon maybe the fan based thinking

1035
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: that you prematurely stopped to fight earlier in the night.

1036
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 4: But if there were thirty seconds to go on the

1037
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 4: fight Kenny and Ray, then you know, coppolav maybe follows

1038
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 4: up and gives Chris Curtis, you know, further concussive damage.

1039
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: So Curtis was on the wrong end of a lot

1040
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 4: of damaging shots with total respects. Yeah, we gotta let

1041
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 4: you go. Ray, you got your spray tan coming up here?

1042
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 4: Twelve fifteen.

1043
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: Oh really, I mean, what is this? Can somebody help

1044
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: me out with the camera? I know I look like

1045
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: a fucking ghost man.

1046
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 4: So I mean I was out in the sun a

1047
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 4: little bit yesterday. I have a really nice sony camera

1048
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 4: that I think maybe masks some of my deficiencies.

1049
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 3: Kenell looks like he is a little.

1050
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: York Kenny did something with the call. His face is

1051
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 2: kind of REDA looks like he's what are you sitting

1052
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 2: in front of a red light?

1053
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 5: Do you think? Do you think the makeup I use

1054
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 5: as anything?

1055
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: I need a makeup lady over here.

1056
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 5: Hey you look red?

1057
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1058
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 4: Hey, Ray, we hope you have an amazing few days

1059
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: and we will see you Thursday.

1060
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. And on a side note, going out, maybe my

1061
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: heart goes out to everybody in California. Those pictures and

1062
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 2: what I'm seeing is absolutely devastating. And I'm sure you

1063
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: guys say you know, have the same sentiment, but you know, wow,

1064
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: that is scary. What happened?

1065
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: It looks like it looks like it's.

1066
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 2: Scary, and it goes to show you like mother Nature. Man,

1067
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 2: you could you we could get wiped out in the heartbeat. Man,

1068
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: you could lose a state. Yeah, oh yeah, so yeah,

1069
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 2: I know it is all right man, I'll see you.

1070
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ray Long go minute every week here on the

1071
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: Anak and Florian Podcast, and we are going to rifle

1072
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: it right back out to the guest line because now

1073
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: joining us. Good man here folks Sportsnet's own mixed martial

1074
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: arts journalist, reporter, broadcaster ab Aaron Bronstetter on Exit's the

1075
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: name Aaron Bronstetter.

1076
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: Good to see him on.

1077
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 4: Man, you got the nice jacket on and everything else.

1078
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: You're looking good, Happy New Year?

1079
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: Thank you? Do I need a spray?

1080
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 2: Tn?

1081
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Speaker 1: I mean it's I think I'm doing okay.

1082
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 2: I went.

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00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: I was just in Florida like last week, so I

1084
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: think it got the residual tan that's still going on.

1085
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 4: Your setup is phenomenal. So how we're getting the jacket

1086
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: treatment and everything else? Do you what do you wear

1087
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: like when you're out and about with your kids. I

1088
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: dress like a certifiable bump.

1089
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: I was actually surprised because the dude recognized me. I

1090
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: was out, like in downtown Toronto, who was like shortly

1091
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: after Christmas, and I have a full beard. I'm wearing like, uh,

1092
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: you know, like a jacket and like you know, I

1093
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: got almost like a cab driver hat. And the guy's like, hey,

1094
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: I was just surprised that they recognized because I'm out

1095
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: and about. I'm just like T shirts or like you know,

1096
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: regular jacket like you wouldn't. I don't dress like this

1097
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: for anybody, just for you guys. And you know, whenever

1098
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm on campra we appreciately I'm kind of dressed like

1099
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: a slob. Like if somebody sees me at the airport today,

1100
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: I'll be wearing like a long sleeved T shirt and

1101
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 1: just like cargo pants.

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00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 4: Well just imagine the extent to which you would get

1103
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 4: recognized if anyone from your nation could actually fight.

1104
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, just kidding, I'm just kidding. I'm just having fun.

1105
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 4: But part of what I wanted to talk to you

1106
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: about today and hopefully aims a hobby and.

1107
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna be doing He's gonna be my

1108
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: analyst for this week when we're in uh Los Angeles.

1109
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: I'll make sure that you send us your regards.

1110
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 4: No, I mean, I think a lot of the fan

1111
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 4: base wonders why maybe one of these fighters hasn't just

1112
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: come up to me and knocked me out Over the years.

1113
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: I have fun on the atticin Flooring podcast.

1114
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: But part of what I did want to talk to

1115
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 4: you about today, and we do talk to you about

1116
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 4: this every now and again, is which fighters is going

1117
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: to carry the torch for Canada? Which fighter can break

1118
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 4: through and bring it back to a place of prominence

1119
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 4: right because I have said repeatedly that the best MMA

1120
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: crowds per capita are in Canada, and some of for

1121
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 4: me and Kenny, are fondest memories of covering mixed martial

1122
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: arts and attending live events have been there. But at

1123
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 4: least right now, when we look at say Australia, New

1124
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 4: Zealand as a market and all the talented contenders. You know,

1125
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 4: we need someone to step up. I mean his aman's

1126
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 4: a hobby maybe the best hopeful as far as contenders

1127
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 4: go right now in Canada.

1128
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: John, this can't be the reason why you had me on.

1129
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there's no relevance right now. We didn't

1130
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: have a Canadian fight on the weekend. But when in

1131
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: LA this week, Like, I mean, yeah, Amon's doing great,

1132
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,399
Speaker 1: he's ranked. I think he's going to fight somebody maybe

1133
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: like a Cheeto Vera type fighter later this year and

1134
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: really show what he can do. I think Mike Mallott,

1135
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, bumping the road, but I think he's he's

1136
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: on the comeback trail. My concern right now is like

1137
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: I don't see that one hot prospect just yet that's

1138
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: worked their way up to the UFC that we can

1139
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: really look at as a guy in their twenties or

1140
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: women in their twenties, that that's somebody that we can

1141
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: really get behind. That just doesn't exist right now. Jasmine

1142
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 1: Jaz Divisi is late to the game. I before thirty

1143
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: five years old. You know, Mike is still I think

1144
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty three, But you know, I call regional

1145
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: Mma in Canada and we're still waiting for that kind

1146
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: of ascendant fighter. Like I thought Mooedo who was on

1147
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: the Contender series, he's very, very green because he just

1148
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 1: started training three or four years ago and he's done

1149
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: some great things here on the regional scene. But he

1150
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: fell short against Jonathan Michaleb, who's fighting in Australia next month.

1151
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I think that right now we just

1152
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: don't have that fighter that we can really hang our

1153
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: hat on just yet. I think it'll come, but it's

1154
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: just sometimes a fighter has to hit up lighting in

1155
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: a bottle. And we also, you know, this isn't a

1156
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: very populous country, like we don't have a lot of fighters,

1157
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: and you know, George Saint Pierre is a top three

1158
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: consensus fighter of all time, right, so these are pretty

1159
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: big shoes to fill.

1160
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: No, there's no doubt about it.

1161
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: And I remember just back in the day how many

1162
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 4: Canadian fighters I was getting excited about, whether it was

1163
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 4: Patrick Kote or Olivier.

1164
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: Obama Mercier or whomever it was.

1165
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: And you can blame my twin brother Jason Annik for

1166
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 4: me going down this line today. But we do like

1167
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: to put some pre thought into these conversations. Yeah, I

1168
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 4: could ask you about the Saysrel made a knockout to

1169
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 4: be sure, but faras the hobby is probably the guy

1170
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 4: that I should have on and ask that question to Kenny,

1171
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 4: because Kenny and I believe he is maybe the best

1172
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 4: coach in all of mixed martial arts, and certainly he

1173
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 4: can't create more people and mixed martial arts athletes.

1174
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 3: But you know, it would just seem to me that there.

1175
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 4: Will come a time, whether it's five or ten years

1176
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 4: down the line, where you are going to have bona

1177
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 4: fide Canadian contenders and the Bell Center is going to

1178
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 4: be fucking lit again.

1179
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 3: That's all now.

1180
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: I think that's that's true. But I think also, you know,

1181
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: the shadow of George Saint Pierre looms very large over

1182
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: these Canadian athletes because we don't have that many fighters

1183
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: from Canada in the UFC, so when they do get there,

1184
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: always the logical questions, oh, are you gonna be the next

1185
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: GSP and and those are just really really big shoes

1186
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: to fill.

1187
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, so obviously another big pay per view card on

1188
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 6: Saturday night. You know, is there a fight that you're

1189
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 6: looking forward to that people might be sleeping on.

1190
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 1: Well, I think Peyton Talbot against Rownie Barcellos is an

1191
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: interesting one because this is the guy that I think

1192
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: has the potential to be top ten by the end

1193
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,439
Speaker 1: of the year in Peyton Talbot, and he's just been

1194
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: absolutely electric since coming to the UFC and has really

1195
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: looked untouchable. Like the way that he's beating guys has

1196
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: been very, very impressive, And that's one that I'm very

1197
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: excited for. And I also think we're not seeing enough

1198
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: about Uri Prokashka and Jamal Hill, Like that's a fight

1199
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: that you know would have been the main event of

1200
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 1: like an international fight wee like a year or two ago,

1201
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: because they were both at the very top of that division,

1202
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: a very exciting division, and now it's third from the

1203
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: top and three round fight. I think that's a really

1204
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: really cool fight.

1205
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 6: Both of those guys coming off losses against Padata.

1206
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 5: What are you expecting from those guys?

1207
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: Well, Yurie actually I think here he's coming off the

1208
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: win was with that fight was the Rockets win. More recently,

1209
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: I can't even remember now he.

1210
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 4: Came back and fought at a second time after the

1211
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 4: Rockets went That was after the.

1212
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: Rockets fight, okay, right, because they needed the Connor fill

1213
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: in for three or three Okay, right, all right, yeah,

1214
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's very interesting, and I think that they're

1215
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: both kind of at a crossroads in their career right now,

1216
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: coming off those Alex Perro losses. You know, I look

1217
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: at that matchup though, and I can't help but I

1218
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: was thinking about it actually this morning. I think that

1219
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: the things that Jamal Hill does exceptionally well are the

1220
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: weaknesses in the game of Yuri Prokashka. I think that

1221
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: from a matchup standpoint, this is gonna be a really

1222
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: tough fight for Yeerie, Whereas I think that as long

1223
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: as Jamal Hill stays disciplined and stays within his game,

1224
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: I think he'll have a big advantage in this fight,

1225
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: and I'm eager to see if that'll play out. But

1226
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, with Yeeri, he's somehow able to get people

1227
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: into these kind of firefights where if he can bring

1228
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: the chaos to them, that's where he can thrive. Jamal

1229
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: Hill's actually very good at avoiding that sort of chaos

1230
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: in his fights, very good with sticking to what he's

1231
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: great at, which I think is his box, his footwork,

1232
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: his precision, and those are the kind of things that

1233
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: Yuri's had trouble with in the past. So what I'm

1234
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: curious about is Yuri has said he wants to go

1235
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: back to the drying board, he wants to try new things.

1236
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: He's even thinking of a move to one hundred and

1237
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: eighty five pounds. What has he done in this off

1238
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: time to prepare him for a guy like Jamal Hill

1239
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: who just does so many you know, like I don't

1240
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: want to say he does so many things well, but

1241
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: the things that he does well, he does really really well.

1242
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: Like he's you know, a lot of people hate on

1243
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: Jamal Hill, but people are rarely hating on Jamal Hill

1244
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: because of how he fights. Nobody's ever like, oh, this

1245
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: guy sucks. They's just like, well, I don't like the

1246
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: way that he's reacted to these things. You know, outside

1247
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: of the cage, nobody ever has real criticisms for how

1248
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: he fights. He's he's an incredible fighter. So I'm just

1249
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: very interested to see how that one plays out.

1250
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting.

1251
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 4: Uri pro Hoscis starts talking about middleweight and the next thing,

1252
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: you know, they offer him this massive light heavyweight fight

1253
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 4: that I would think would be too hard to deny.

1254
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 4: And here we are the great Aaron brons Setter with

1255
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 4: us live here on the Anak and Florian Podcast. So

1256
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 4: I talked off the top of the show about this

1257
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: six week respite between pay per views. Now, since I

1258
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 4: took over twenty seventeen or whenever it was, I can't

1259
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 4: ever remember having this type of gap. I know there

1260
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 4: was a UFC fight night on December fourteenth, we had

1261
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 4: one last weekend.

1262
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: But for you, I know.

1263
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 4: You're talking a little bit about screen time and getting

1264
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 4: away from the devices a little bit. But has this

1265
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 4: been a little bit of a welcome break slash off season,

1266
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 4: Like have you felt a little bit of a reset

1267
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 4: or no?

1268
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I think that like anytime there's three

1269
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: weeks in a row with no UFC and then that

1270
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: seems to be the direction they're going in now in

1271
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: the winter time, like after they usually don't do anything

1272
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: Christmas week and the last week of the year is

1273
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: the weekend before that, and then they don't come back

1274
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: until like the first or second weekend in January, and

1275
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: it is a good rest bit. And thankfully this time around,

1276
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: there wasn't any news that happened during the break really

1277
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: like it was a very quiet time, so that was nice,

1278
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: and it allows you to kind of really think about

1279
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: the year ahead and how you can change things and

1280
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: what you want to do differently in terms of your

1281
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: post to both covering the sport and your post to life.

1282
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: So there are summer that the UFC is seeking north

1283
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 4: of one billion dollars a year for its live events

1284
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 4: and a new television contract. And I'm not going to

1285
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 4: opine on that for obvious reasons, but in the context

1286
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 4: of the end of year situation, I think a lot

1287
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 4: of it has to do with American football and the

1288
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 4: current television partner domestically ESPN, and I think in a

1289
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 4: climate in which the content was spread out potentially on Netflix,

1290
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 4: you are very much looking at a return to a

1291
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 4: big year end celebration and things that maybe will interrupt

1292
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 4: people's holiday celebrations. And I think I'm kind of for it.

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00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 4: I guess it's a long winded way of saying, like

1294
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 4: I am jonesing to get away from South Florida to

1295
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 4: a lesser extent, away from my children and get back

1296
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,479
Speaker 4: to work. You know, way too long for me, Aaron

1297
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 4: Brons said, are a few more things I'd like to

1298
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 4: get to with you. So we talked about the Roman

1299
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 4: coppol of Chris Curtis situation. And I think there were

1300
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 4: some dissenting opinions on this show as to the end

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00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:57,959
Speaker 4: of that fight.

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Speaker 3: I talked a little bit.

1303
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 4: I don't know if you heard me about Mark Smith

1304
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 4: maybe later in the night allowing a fight to go longer,

1305
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 4: perhaps because of this decision earlier in the night. Anything

1306
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: for us on the end of that fight and how

1307
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 4: you think it was handled either by referee, by Nick

1308
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 4: Sick and Curtis after the fact, anything for us on that,

1309
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 4: if you'd be so kind.

1310
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: I think everybody handled it the way that they should

1311
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: have in that moment. And the thing that a lot

1312
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: of people don't talk about when it comes to officiating

1313
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: is like we can see on TV that there's a

1314
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: second left, but what we can't see is the eyes.

1315
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 5: Of the fighter.

1316
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: Right Like Mark Smith is right there. He can see

1317
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: exactly what the fighter looks like if they have their

1318
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: wits about him, and he's refereed enough fights to know

1319
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: whether or not he thinks a fighter is fit to continue. Now,

1320
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 1: the thing that makes it so tricky is that Kapolov

1321
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: kind of walked off right at that point in time.

1322
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: I think Kopolov knows that there's very little time off

1323
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: in the fight, because you hear the collapse of the

1324
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: of ten seconds remaining, I think the referee knows that

1325
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: there's less than ten seconds remaining. But I still think

1326
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: that the referee has to do. They have to officiate

1327
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: the fight the same way. They wouldn't allow second of

1328
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: the fight, the same way that they would at three

1329
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: minutes and fourteen seconds of the second round. Like that

1330
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: that's their job, right, So I can't fault Mark Smith

1331
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: for stopping the fight. And like you mentioned that, I mean,

1332
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: it's kind of a trivial thing to talk about anyways,

1333
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: because Kapleov was gonna win that fight on the scorecards

1334
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: if he didn't stop the fight. Like, I think that's

1335
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: a pretty obvious, foregone conclusion looking at the scorecards after

1336
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: the fact. One of the things I tweeted right afterwards

1337
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: was like, you know, Chris Curtis is really gonna beat

1338
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: himself up about this if he was up going into

1339
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: that third round. But that wasn't the case. Right once

1340
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: the public scorecard came out and it was even going

1341
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: to the third, it's fairly easy to conclude that Copple

1342
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: Love would have won the fight by unanimous decision regardless,

1343
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: so I think they were making a little bit too

1344
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: much of it. Now on the flip side, you mentioned

1345
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: Carlston Harris and Ponzinibio when you were talking to coach,

1346
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: and that's a stoppage that I didn't really like because

1347
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was stopped at the wrong time. I

1348
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: thought that Carry Hatley stepped in. When you see Carlson.

1349
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 3: Not Mark Smith, that was Carry Hatley.

1350
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I really apologized then I thought, for sure, man,

1351
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 4: I must have been on one geez.

1352
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 3: Anyway, that was that was an.

1353
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: Exciting night to fight, so I understand if the adrenaline

1354
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 1: just kicked in at that point in time. But I

1355
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: think that you had Carlston Harris kind of squared up

1356
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: and he's throwing a punch. He actually lands a punch

1357
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: when at least top of the fight, Like, I think,

1358
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: there are lots of different moments where Hapley could have

1359
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: stopped the fight where he was really compromised. But then

1360
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: once you see the fighters kind of back, he's squared up,

1361
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: he's throwing punches, then that's the wrong time to stop

1362
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 1: the fight in my opinion. So I agree, you know,

1363
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: you don't want to see Carlston Harris take more damage.

1364
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you saw what happened earlier

1365
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: in the night with Abdill Razak al Haasen and Sezar

1366
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: Almeida letting that fight continue until that's completed. Carlton Harris

1367
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: had rocked and knocked him down several times in that fight.

1368
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: So when you see that Carlston Harris is still fighting back,

1369
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: I think especially when he's probably up on the cards,

1370
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,000
Speaker 1: or at least up on the cards. I can't remember

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01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: how those score cards played.

1372
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Speaker 6: Oh no, I think I think it was too Carlson

1373
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 6: was up to two round and then obviously losing that

1374
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 6: third round.

1375
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 5: And I agree, I think there were moments where.

1376
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 6: You could have stopped that fight, but that was the

1377
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 6: time where he was actually back in it, had his

1378
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 6: wits and was actually landing punches.

1379
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 5: So it was kind of an odd stoppage from Attlee right.

1380
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: That was the stoppage that I didn't like. The Chris

1381
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: Curtis stoppage. I get a lot more. And I also

1382
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: think that we can see that Carlston Harris is fighting back,

1383
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: whereas with Chris Curtis, you can't really see his eyes

1384
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: in that moment because the camera's not going to zoom

1385
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: in on the guy's pupils. That's that's what the referee's

1386
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: job is. And I think that's a thing that a

1387
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: lot of people don't think about when referee stop fights,

1388
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: where people think that it's a controversial stoppage, is that

1389
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: they can see little nuances that we just are not

1390
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 1: looking for in that moment.

1391
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 4: All right, time permitting, I'll have some more fight stuff

1392
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 4: with you on the back end, but I have some

1393
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 4: would you rather questions for Aaron Johnstett or today Ray

1394
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 4: Longo did not like these questions. Would you rather give

1395
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 4: up all drinks except water? Or give up eating anything

1396
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 4: that was cooked in an oven?

1397
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: I mean I would have to give up coffee, which

1398
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: would be really hard for me. Now you know what

1399
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: I would? I would give up the oven? Like can

1400
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: I can live off coffee eggs all day?

1401
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 3: Like I've got an air frar too?

1402
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 5: Right?

1403
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: I mean?

1404
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: Is an oven? That are we? Are we not counting?

1405
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: So I found you can still is a barbecue and oven?

1406
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 5: Like?

1407
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 1: What are we getting into here? Are we talking about stove?

1408
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: Like?

1409
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 1: If we're talking stove, that's an easy one. But if

1410
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: we're talking like barbecues and air friers, anything that you're

1411
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: putting something in and closing the door. Yeah, it's a

1412
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 1: little trick that you can still pan fry a steak

1413
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: on like a nice cast iron. It'll come out good.

1414
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 3: That's absolutely buried Mark Smith on this podcast, just buried him.

1415
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 4: Dude, Well, you could have corrected me live if I

1416
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 4: thought that it was Carrie Hatley, But no, I.

1417
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 5: Actually didn't know.

1418
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: It's not a guy who I.

1419
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 4: Would think historically would right. He doesn't care. He's there

1420
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 4: for the fighters. He's not worried about public opinions. So

1421
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 4: I do apologize for that. So, yes, Carrie Hatley, I

1422
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 4: certainly thought there were opportunities where he could have stopped

1423
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 4: that fight. And I was behind the Chris Curtis stoppage

1424
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 4: to be sure. I guess sometimes I just feel like

1425
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 4: nobody's talking about Roman coppol Of today, and if he

1426
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 4: was an American fighter who spoke English, he'd be like, hey, guys,

1427
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 4: like I was the one who landed the fucking head kick. Anyway,

1428
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 4: Aaron Bronstetter, would you rather only be able to wash

1429
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 4: your hair and I know you're a vain guy twice

1430
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 4: a year, or only be able to check your phone

1431
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 4: once a day.

1432
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: I would go with it. Like, so when you say

1433
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: wash your hair, you're talking full shampoo or are you

1434
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: talking like getting your hair.

1435
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: Wet period shampoo?

1436
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could go without that. You're not even supposed

1437
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: to shampoo your hair that often.

1438
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 3: Twice a year. Bro, Well, you're in a so you.

1439
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 4: Can't afford journalistically it only check your phone once a day.

1440
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 4: But you have posted on social media recently that you

1441
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 4: are going to great lengths to less than your screen time,

1442
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 4: so much so that my brother tells me that you

1443
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 4: are like gray scaling.

1444
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: Your fucking phone to get rid of all the color

1445
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 3: on it.

1446
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, my phone's gray scale like ninety percent of

1447
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: the time. Now, I'll turn on color if I'm going

1448
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 1: to play Bralstars. I play broll Stars as a kid.

1449
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: I'll put the color on. If I'm gonna play Stars,

1450
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 1: or if there's like a video I really really want

1451
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: to watch. Yeah, but yeah, otherwise, just we're game boy mode.

1452
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 4: Wow, you're amazing. All right, two more and then we'll

1453
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 4: get you out of here. And sorry for being five

1454
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 4: minutes late today. Would you rather be so afraid of

1455
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 4: heights that you can't go to the second floor of

1456
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 4: a building, or be so afraid of the sun that

1457
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 4: you can only leave the house on rainy days.

1458
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm already afraid of heights, so this is an

1459
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: easy one for me. I'm like, like, I'm not like

1460
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: third four afraid of heights, but yeah, like I live

1461
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 1: with that. So I mean, if you put a little

1462
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: bit more anxiety in my life, it's not going to

1463
01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: be that big of a deal. But I'm not going

1464
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: to be afraid of the sun. Like let me, let

1465
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: me go outside and bask, even though I'm in Canada

1466
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 1: and we don't get that much of it anyways, But you.

1467
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 4: Know, all right, last, would you rather? Would you rather

1468
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 4: never eat your favorite food for the rest of your

1469
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 4: life or only eat your favorite food?

1470
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to say never. I think that like balance

1471
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: in life is really important, and like moderation is really important.

1472
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: Like if I just sat there eating steaks all day,

1473
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: like I'd be shitting bricks, Like right, you know, I

1474
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: know people subscribe to this carnivore diet thing is the

1475
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: kind of the new fad diet or whatever it is.

1476
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: To me, there's the best diet is one that nobody

1477
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: talks about. It's just called balance, Yeah, moderation, and then

1478
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 1: you have a little water and you have you know,

1479
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. So I would I would

1480
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 1: just say I wouldn't have my favorite food again.

1481
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a little bit torn because if someone told

1482
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 4: me I can't eat Chinese food for the rest of

1483
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 4: my life, I'd be like, you know what, I'll just

1484
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 4: have it every day and that's how we'll solve that problem, right.

1485
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 3: Final question for Aaron Bronstonner.

1486
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 4: Islami Kashev is a bitter bigger betting favorite than umarnmago

1487
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 4: Metov this weekend. But it seems to me when I

1488
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 4: talk to people forgetting our anaconforming podcast poll, that some

1489
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 4: people maybe think that ourman Saragian is more of a

1490
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,439
Speaker 4: live underdog than Morob Dwalash WILLI so, can I ask

1491
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 4: you journalistically in which betting favorite are you more confident

1492
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 4: this weekend is Lama Kashev or Umargo Medov.

1493
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm more confident in Islam because I think that Islam's grappling,

1494
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: I believe is better than Serukian's. I believe that his

1495
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: boxing is better than Serrukian's. And I also think that

1496
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 1: the experience of being in all of these different championship

1497
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 1: fights and fighting top level competition makes him better equipped

1498
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: to fight a guy like Terukion than Umar, who has

1499
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: that great win over san Haagen. And I think that

1500
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: Umar is definitely a worthy favorite. But when you look

1501
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: at guys like kyodor Yan who have been a big

1502
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: favorite against mab Duaz really and how Dullas really just

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01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: ran through him, I'd be a lot more comfortable with

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01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: Islam as a big favorite than Umar, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Well we see you in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: You will.

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01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm leaving today in about four hours time. I'll be

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01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,600
Speaker 1: boarding an airplane.

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Speaker 4: We appreciate you squeezing us in on. Actually you can

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01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 4: find this man at Aaron Bronstetter and salutations my man

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01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 4: Laford to shaking your hand in a few days. We

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01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,640
Speaker 4: appreciate your time as always.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely only a few more sleeps, as you would say,

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Speaker 1: until we all get down with UFC three eleven. And

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01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 1: that is a reference to BAN three eleven and they're

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: hit single down from the year nineteen ninety eight, which

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01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: it might not actually be from that year, but I

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Speaker 1: just figured it was probably around this.

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Speaker 3: That's like all we listened to in college.

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Speaker 4: Brother, you're opening my mind for some of my copy

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01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 4: to write this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, brother, you got a trust your instincts,

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01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: John trust ten things. Okay, have a great day. We'll

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01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: see you guys later this week.

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Speaker 5: I have a good trip. Man.

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01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 4: There he is the great Aaron Bronsteader joining us from

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Speaker 4: north of the border.

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Speaker 3: I was just trying to have a little fun with

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Speaker 3: Canada off the top.

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01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 4: I would like to formally apologize to Mark Smith for

1531
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 4: wrongley suggesting that you were Kerrie Hatley in the co

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01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 4: main events.

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Speaker 3: I was watching on my phone. I got the NFL

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01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 3: on the TV. I don't know what to tell.

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Speaker 5: You, you dude, I mean, come on.

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01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 4: I always introduced him as the classy veteran Mark Smith.

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01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 4: He's one of my favorites.

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Speaker 5: Oh he is. He's an awesome breath.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's going to do it for today. Rest assured.

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01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,759
Speaker 3: We have a lot more coming up on UFC three eleven.

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01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 4: Coming up on Wednesday, Ken Flow and Brian Petrie, we'll

1542
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 4: have seven predictions for you and also they will give

1543
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 4: you three thousand dollars worth of wagers in our place

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01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 4: your bet segment. Also, don't forget go to at Annik

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Speaker 4: Florian pod on either Instagram or x You can fill

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Speaker 4: out the Google form to be considered to go head

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Speaker 4: to head this year live on the air against ken

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Speaker 4: Flow and Peatree, and perhaps the next great handicapper on

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Speaker 4: the Emplorian podcast will come out of those submissions. Thank

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01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 4: you to our guest Ray long Ago and Aaron Brown Saiter,

1551
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 4: Thanks to our business manager Jason Anak, our executive producer

1552
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 4: Cody Merrow, and thanks to the great ken Flow always

1553
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 4: showing up with the analytics. We will talk to you

1554
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 4: guys in about forty eight hours. Until then, have a

1555
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 4: great day and a better evening. Thanks for watching Live.

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01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 4: You'l fucking later.

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Speaker 1: He's gone, He's going round.