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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and now your host, Kyle Yeomans. Today is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: February ninth. We are now seventy one or seventy eight

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Speaker 1: days away from the NFL Draft in Kansas City, and

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Speaker 1: welcome in to the Draft Show presented by Miller Light,

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Speaker 1: live from the SWBC studios at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: I'm here with Aisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yeomans. We've got

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Speaker 1: Chris Beam in the back and now on the phone

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Speaker 1: lines wearing his Raesis Senior Bowl shirt because we saw

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Speaker 1: it for as split second. You're not gonna see him

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Speaker 1: rest of the episode. Our very own Brian and brought

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Speaker 1: us live from a radio row out at the Super Bowl. Brian,

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Speaker 1: glad to have you back. Buddy. How is Glendale? How's

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Speaker 1: it going up there? Well, it's going great, guys. It's

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Speaker 1: good to be if my Scout buddies as always. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun, a lot of really

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Speaker 1: cool interviews. It could be very hectic, but you'll be

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Speaker 1: surprised how many people will walk up to you and

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Speaker 1: start talking about the draft. I mean it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're They're like, hey, you're that guy that talks about

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Speaker 1: the draft. I'm like, yeah, yeah, so the next thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, so, yeah, the draft shows known worldwide here

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Speaker 1: And I'm excited to be with you guys today. I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to being with you guys in studio next week.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's one of those things technology and

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Speaker 1: old people never seem to work very well together. So

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Speaker 1: we'll figure it out one day. Beam did a heck

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Speaker 1: of a job trying to get me to you. I

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Speaker 1: just couldn't quite make it. That's okay, Well, we've got

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Speaker 1: you on the phone and that's going to be great

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Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the episode. Now, you mentioned people

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Speaker 1: coming up to you and talking draft. Of course your

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Speaker 1: person that's come up to you so far on Radio

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Speaker 1: Row and wanted to talk draft? Who's well number one? Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know it's funny. Michael Lombardi and I used to

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Speaker 1: you know, we were kind of talking about Dallas philosophy

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Speaker 1: on one to Fly three the fan Michael Silver, you know,

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Speaker 1: things like that. It's just it's funny, you you kind

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Speaker 1: of um. I was even talking with Jim McMahon about

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Speaker 1: with Jim who I was with in Green Bay, and

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Speaker 1: So it's funny just people they know what your background

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Speaker 1: you do this before. I've seen you talk about this,

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Speaker 1: sou But yeah, it's it never it never stops. You know,

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Speaker 1: never stopped. No, it doesn't. It doesn't at all. So

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Speaker 1: this is your first year covering the draft with us.

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Speaker 1: But what's the biggest thing that's kind of stood out

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Speaker 1: just being straight up with y'all, like, because there's so

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Speaker 1: because you look at look at John Ridgeway's pick last year.

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Speaker 1: They're trying They're trying to find this big nose tackle.

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Speaker 1: terms of a space eater, multiple gap guy in the

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Speaker 1: to fall for dan Quinn's system. And they might be

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Speaker 1: there are guys it could even be a three technique

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Speaker 1: the three technique? Because you mentioned Osa Digizua, he's starting

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Speaker 1: the that's the thing that you're like that that kind

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Speaker 1: don't need to do whiney boys there, but it was yeah,

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Speaker 1: things off with Brian's guy. He was just talking about

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Speaker 1: him a moment ago. Elijah Cancy. I said his name

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Speaker 1: wrong butchered it in the first segment. That's okay, I

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Speaker 1: got it right this time out of Pittsburgh, kind of

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Speaker 1: a tweener type. But we had candy Man two one

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Speaker 1: four that's his Twitter name and that is also his

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Speaker 1: handle on Twitter. What round would you snag? Elijah Cancy

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Speaker 1: ed rusher from pitt is what he described it as,

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Speaker 1: but he says he could be a Dan Quinn type. Brian,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. This is a really interesting kid.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I brought it up because he goes

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Speaker 1: to a school that got Aaron Donald into the league,

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Speaker 1: which was Pittsburgh. And Aaron Donald, if we all remember,

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Speaker 1: is shorter and you know, is white, and that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing with the weight and but super quick, super

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Speaker 1: active plays with leverage and all that. This kid's got

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Speaker 1: some of those traits. And it's scary. And you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the uniform and you're going, wait a minute, I've

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Speaker 1: seen this before somewhere, you know, and you had several

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Speaker 1: years ago, and I just, man, I don't some teams

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Speaker 1: are not gonna are not gonna like him. And I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you because he's six foot and he's two

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five pounds. I mean, that's the high

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Speaker 1: I was working with right now. Hyden Way, you we're

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Speaker 1: working with right now. But man, this guy is super disruptive.

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Speaker 1: He does a great job at getting to the ball

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Speaker 1: and can finish. He's got some strength, he's always on

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Speaker 1: the move, relentless desire, all that stuff. He could just

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Speaker 1: attack some gaps and he works well to the edges too,

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Speaker 1: you see, you know, like him, Chase, he makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of plays on the outside, the lateral quickness, the agility,

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Speaker 1: redirect I mean, when he gets too far up the field,

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Speaker 1: he could push the pocket. I mean he just wins

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Speaker 1: right off the jump. And again, it was just like

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Speaker 1: it was watching Aaron Donald all over again. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm this kid very well could be a second round pick.

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Speaker 1: And I say that with you know that people are

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Speaker 1: gonna like they're going to evaluate him is And this

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Speaker 1: is a great thing about what the draft has become

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Speaker 1: and not when the krusty guy you're talking to on

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Speaker 1: the phone right now was drafted twenty years ago kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. You know that we now see players that

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Speaker 1: are undersized that are getting picked, you know, quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 1: would have never in my life think a thought of

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Speaker 1: player like Kyler Murray at his height would have got

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Speaker 1: picked first overall or you know, Baker Mayfield. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the draft is evolving to if you could play, you

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Speaker 1: can play, and no matter how tall or how small,

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Speaker 1: or how heavy or whatever, you could play. And so

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised to evolve this guy as we

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Speaker 1: get through this process, that more people start to to

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Speaker 1: generate a buzz about him. And again you'll you'll see

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald comparisons just because they both went to the

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Speaker 1: same school. But there's some traits there if you follow

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Speaker 1: him a little bit closely. I'm watching them right now

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Speaker 1: and I'm watching Louisville or he's playing Louisville and he's

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Speaker 1: playing Duke. Duke had some really big upfront interior offensive lineman,

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Speaker 1: and it feels like when he's going up against these big,

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Speaker 1: physical guys, he's having trouble. But then against Louisville a

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Speaker 1: smaller offensive line, and he's able to kind of use

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Speaker 1: his speed and fit through gaps he's got. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: got some pop to him. Probably, yeah, watching if you

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Speaker 1: can watch him play Clemson, watch him play game. Okay, wait,

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Speaker 1: forward stalls teams like that. You're right. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: he's probably not for everybody, but there's somebody that's going

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Speaker 1: to see those traits, the quickness, the agility, the outside.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you could probably move him around a couple

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Speaker 1: of spots. But like I said, hey, he wore the

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Speaker 1: same uniform of a guy that was there. But you know,

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Speaker 1: Eric Donald was like when you watched him play, You're like, wow,

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Speaker 1: but hey, look what the rams did I mean you

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Speaker 1: take a chance on some of these guys, and let's

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Speaker 1: say his kids a first round pick. But I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what he's gonna He's gonna draw some attention from

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Speaker 1: some of these teams. Yeah, if you put a big

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Speaker 1: body next to him, it's gonna be over. But then

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Speaker 1: also too, when you look at I mean just I

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Speaker 1: feel like interior pressure is uh is something. With how

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Speaker 1: many mobile quarterbacks there are in the league, now I

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Speaker 1: feels here your pressure might be the thing. Like, obviously

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Speaker 1: you getting edge pressure is fantastic, but with the escapability

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Speaker 1: of all these mobile quarterbacks, now are you trying to like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's rush up the middle. Let's get more pressure up

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Speaker 1: the A and B gap to really throw off their vision.

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Speaker 1: Because you do see a lot of these mobile quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: like they're they're trying to become pocket pastors. They're trying

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Speaker 1: to sit there and deal with that. And so with

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Speaker 1: the edges, I'm like, yeah, you can attack these guys

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Speaker 1: from the edges with the escapability and stuff, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys are escaping up the middle. Like even

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Speaker 1: with Jalen Hurts, I remember when we were watching film

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Speaker 1: on him, that was one of the main things he

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Speaker 1: wasn't just running to the edges. He was a right

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Speaker 1: up the middle. Daniel Films right up the middle those guys,

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Speaker 1: and then you got to see Sam Howell and he's

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Speaker 1: a bit of a gamer moving forward. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: just being honest with you. Is like, the mobile quarterback

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Speaker 1: is kind of like the jam now, and if you

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Speaker 1: want to attack a mobile quarterback, in my opinion, is

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Speaker 1: to really get in their face in the middle and

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Speaker 1: throw off their vision there because mobile quarterbacks they can

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Speaker 1: figure out how to, you know, escape the edges. And

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Speaker 1: so I'm also looking at um if a lot of

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Speaker 1: guys do have pass rush ability. A lot of these

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Speaker 1: dts do, and I don't feel like maybe it's so

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Speaker 1: much of a bad thing anymore if you do have

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Speaker 1: another gentleman next to him to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 1: take on some of those double teams or just take

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Speaker 1: on more of that power, be that bigger guy. So yeah, Brian,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you ask any quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 1: which type of pressure is more of a nuisance to

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Speaker 1: deal with, They're all going to say interior pressure. So

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Speaker 1: I think you're spot at the eye level. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: used this absolutely right the eye level because I was

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Speaker 1: talking to Michael Lombardi about this yesterday and he brought

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Speaker 1: up the point it's like when he was in Cleveland

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Speaker 1: with Bernie Cosar. Hey, Bernie Cosar would come to the

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Speaker 1: sidelines and he would say, hey, you know, we gotta

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Speaker 1: be better at the right guard. We gotta be better

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Speaker 1: at you know, left tackle, we gotta be better at

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Speaker 1: you know, or excuse you gotta be better at the center.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's like, you know, the question becomes, Okay,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, your eyes are supposed to be down

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Speaker 1: the field. Why are you telling me? Why do we

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Speaker 1: need be better at right guard or left guard or center?

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Speaker 1: You know that that you know, if you're telling me

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Speaker 1: where the pressure is coming from, that's affecting your eye level,

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Speaker 1: you know. And if your eye levels not downfield, you're

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Speaker 1: not seeing the receivers. If you could tell me what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the pocket and the guys that are

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Speaker 1: having trouble, your eye level is in a really, really

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Speaker 1: bad spot. Yeah, it's just so tough because you can

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Speaker 1: feel the pressure coming from the edge, you can step

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Speaker 1: up and you can then try and navigate from there.

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Speaker 1: You can't do anything coming right at you. You can't

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Speaker 1: do anything about it, all right. Second question of Twitter

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Speaker 1: on the twenty, Justin Richards asked, could you see the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys trading up in this draft? And who could you

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Speaker 1: see them trying to move up for if they were

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Speaker 1: going to do it? Of course, captain trade down are

583
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Speaker 1: very good friend, Jeff Cavanaugh probably rolling over right now

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Speaker 1: listening to this. But trading up is that a possibility?

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Speaker 1: And is there anybody that would be valuable enough Brian

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Speaker 1: that they would just go get them? Man, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what this team. I mean, they've got contents or

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Speaker 1: they're you're gonna get content satory picks, which trade They're

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Speaker 1: going to have enough to move and be aggressive and

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Speaker 1: all that. I wonder you know the pitch position that's

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Speaker 1: stretching for me right now. And I don't know about

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Speaker 1: you guys, so you tell me what you think. I

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Speaker 1: kind of feel like this team would look at a

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Speaker 1: corner and I don't know if the if the right

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Speaker 1: corner would get to you, that you would maybe make

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Speaker 1: a move to get there. I mean, everybody's got these guys,

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Speaker 1: these corners all different. Gonzales, I love the kids. Joey

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Speaker 1: Porter from Penn State. Yeah, I don't I don't see

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Speaker 1: how you. I mean to me, can you going up?

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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna move, I just feel like there's

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Speaker 1: just enough corners where you don't have to move. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of where I'm at. I don't I just don't

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Speaker 1: think I think they're gonna I think they learned their lessons,

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Speaker 1: not lessons or do you mean they sat there and

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Speaker 1: let the board come to them and some you know

606
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Speaker 1: last year and they you know, they had Tyler Smith

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Speaker 1: where he was. I just don't see them going up

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Speaker 1: and getting, you know, because the positions I think are

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Speaker 1: gonna stretch for him, the they're looking at. So we've

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Speaker 1: talked about the defensive tackles. We've kind of talked about

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Speaker 1: a little bit. These edge rushers. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: you guys. I've looked fourteen edge rushers so far. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not hating you know, probably there's a couple

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Speaker 1: of them I really really wouldn't want to deal with.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like that position will stretch for you

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Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, that offensive line, you know,

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Speaker 1: the guard position if you're looking to grab a guard.

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Speaker 1: I think they're a good spot just to sit there

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Speaker 1: and see where this thing's coming. To you, and you know,

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Speaker 1: even though they do have the compensatories. Yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: want to make a small move to flip a five

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Speaker 1: or something like that, hey, I'm all for it. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't see this team right now. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to stack this board when I get done,

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Speaker 1: and I'll figure out, Okay, this is a guy I

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Speaker 1: would go for, the guy I would go forwards one

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Speaker 1: of those quarters. Like I said, I really do like

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Speaker 1: the Porter kid if he got to where you can

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Speaker 1: get him. Yeah, I'm only so. I'm seventy players in now,

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Speaker 1: so I'm getting to the point where I can kind

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Speaker 1: of see where this class is going to end up.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to find where the values are. It looks

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Speaker 1: a lot and it reminds me a lot of last

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Speaker 1: year's draft class, where there are these top heavy guys.

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Speaker 1: There's about ten guys that are locks to be first

636
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Speaker 1: round picks, top fifteen picks, and once those guys go,

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Speaker 1: then there's a significant amount of guys that are good

638
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: enough to be taken in the first round, but they

639
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: won't be. There's gonna be about thirty of those guys

640
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: that are right in that that same category. And I'm

641
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: right there with you, I think edge rusher. You've got

642
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: two guys right up at the top with Will Anderson,

643
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy. Tyree Wilson the probably the third one in

644
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: that list. I really like Tyree Wilson out of Texas Tech.

645
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,239
Speaker 1: I like him a lot. Corner, it's Christian Gonzalez out

646
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: of Oregon. At first it was Keiley Ringo out of Georgia,

647
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, he's starting to drop off

648
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 1: the face of the planet. People are taking him, mocks

649
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: are starting to show him go in the early second round,

650
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 1: maybe even late second round. And then there's Joey Porter Jr.

651
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: Who is my second best corner, but he's probably gonna

652
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: be a top fifteen pick. Outside of that, you're gonna

653
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: probably get a really good defensive tackle. You're gonna get

654
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: a good shot at linebacker. You're gonna get a great

655
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: look at wide receiver. Unless you just fall in love

656
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: with one of these early wide receivers. You want to go,

657
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: try and get up, go up and get a Jackson

658
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Smith and Jake buff you don't think he'll fall to

659
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: twenty six, or if you want to go, get a

660
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison out of usc If you don't think he'll fall.

661
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: That's the only way I could see them trading up.

662
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: So for me, I look at this class and while

663
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: look at what the Cowboys have going on right now,

664
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: and I feel like one of the only places that,

665
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: especially on offensive line, Like, who are your guards? Because

666
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: McGovern's a free agent? Yeah right, I mean Zack Martin

667
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: is here. Probably Tyler Smith is your guard. But isn't

668
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: he left tackle? Yeah, depending on what happens with Tyrn

669
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: that's you don't know. So really, I mean, I feel

670
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: like tackle is kind of they have enough guys at

671
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: tackle now. The Cowboys have seen success drafting offensive lineman

672
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: in the first round. I guard feels like a knee

673
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: to me, Like it does. It feels like a knee

674
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: because we don't know what they're gonna do with McGovern.

675
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Say what you want to say, Zach Martin is fantastic,

676
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: but he's still getting He's still he's becoming a senior

677
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: in this game, no like, and that's we have to

678
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: be realistic about that. Tyler Smith, are you gonna keep

679
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: moving him from guard to tackle or you want him

680
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: to be stationed there? You got Tearn still coming back,

681
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: You got Tyler to be honest there, you could really

682
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: solidify this line if you get a top guard or

683
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: a guard that is gonna come in and be able

684
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: to play for you day one, maybe even have some

685
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: swing ability. So with that being said, I don't know

686
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: if it's likely, but I do feel like with the

687
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys knowing themselves, like we've seen success drafting in the

688
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: offensive line in the first round, we know we hit there.

689
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: We know we hit there. If you needed to go

690
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: get a guy, if you wanted to go get a guy,

691
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: that's like one of the only positions Like well you

692
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: mentioned corner two, but offensive line, if you want to

693
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: go get a guard to solidify this line, I mean

694
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: you got Tyler Beadors, you got you know. Maybe who's

695
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: your top guard right now? Uh Um. I feel like

696
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 1: the easy answer is Osiris Torrance from Florida. I feel

697
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: like that's the easy He's my top guard right now.

698
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: I've only seen seven guards. But what I wanted to

699
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: ask you and Brian, is is there any tackles and

700
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: I was just talking about on our last show, are

701
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: there any tackles that you think have flex that you

702
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: could sure that you could turn into a guard and

703
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: how successful? And I'm ask you. That's a question like,

704
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: are there any tackles that you guys see that you

705
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: think could come in day one be a thumping guard

706
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: and can make a difference. He's probably not a first

707
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: round pick, Brian, but your pet cat Cody Mock might

708
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: fit that description. Yeah, North Dakota State. Yeah, he's a

709
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: he's a tackle. I know that to me, Uh, you know,

710
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta think about the kid at l

711
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: Now he's a straight he's a straight guard. I mean,

712
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: that's a six four, three hundred and thirty pound guy

713
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: that plays with balance and all the things that we

714
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: all like about that. The other guys that I issue

715
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: you're bringing up Warren McClendon, who's a he's the start

716
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: at right tackle for Georgia. Yeah, Yeah, there's a guy.

717
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's kind of a guy that mentioned us,

718
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: A long limbed kind of player, a little bit thinly

719
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: built for me, you know, at three hundred pounds. Jordan

720
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: McFadden is another one who was a start at left

721
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: tackle for Clemson six two, three oh five. See there's

722
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: a now you talk about like you know, we were

723
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: we were mentioning our kid at pitt you know, with

724
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: being you know undersized, but here's you know, mc McFadden

725
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: is a six two, three hundred and five pounds tackle

726
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 1: who's could play guard. But I you know what I mean,

727
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: I have problems with all these guys, the towards kids

728
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: from Florida. I know people are starting to mock him

729
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: to Dallas and I'm kind of I'm struggling with him

730
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: a little bit because again, I see a massive guy,

731
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't call him nimble, you know what I'm saying.

732
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: I think he's a little top heavy. I think his

733
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: weight gets a little bit forward on him sometimes. I

734
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: think defenders tend to kind of move him around and

735
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: it's a problem for him. I just, you know, I'm

736
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: interested to see as we get further along, is there

737
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: somebody Is there somebody in this draft that you would

738
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: you would say, because I'm kind of struggling other than

739
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: the TCU kid at guard right now, I'm just kind

740
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: of a kind of a little bit of a loss.

741
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: If that's the direction I would go, Yeah, there's some

742
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: guys who when you when you talked to you talked

743
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: about Alia. Yeah. The thing I have down for him

744
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: is like he might not be perfect at this point

745
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: of attack. But his technique is so good, it really is.

746
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: You got a lot of these offensive linemen, you know,

747
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned it yesterday. We got some. They're not long

748
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: in the tooth, but they are. It's quite a few

749
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: guys who have just stayed and played the extra year,

750
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: you know, and got and you can tell I personally

751
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: want a guy that's technically sound like, I really, I

752
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: really feel like there's value in having someone technically something.

753
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: But even looking at the Cowboys, you start looking at, Okay,

754
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: well Solari, how he likes to, you know, call run place.

755
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: He does a lot of combo blocking and stuff. So

756
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm really I think guard is a thing

757
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: I really do in my heart. I'm like, hey, I

758
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: know they're gonna drop offensive line, but I wonder if

759
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: you go go and get a premium garden. Yes, why not? Yeah,

760
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: I get one. I mean we see that what a

761
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: dominant offensive line can do. Look at literally, look at

762
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Look at Philly that, like, with

763
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: all due respect, their quarterbacks been playing semi injured and

764
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: they're still running that they still move in like and

765
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: they're so dominant that they don't have to try that hard.

766
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm saying they don't have to try

767
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: super hard. So I'm really like, let's try to get

768
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: this offensive line back to being dominant and being able

769
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: to just take the ball out the air. And I

770
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 1: think a guard can do that for you real quickly, Brian,

771
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: just to elaborate on Osirius Torrance before we go to

772
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: our second break with him, you were talking about the

773
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: some of the technique and cleaning that up. Do you

774
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: think maybe cleaning up his body type and getting into

775
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: a professional strength room could potentially help that. He's six

776
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: foot right under six foot five, He's at six o

777
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: four seven three hundred and thirty seven pounds, So if

778
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: you clean that up a little bit, Yeah, yeah, if

779
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: you play that up a little bit, maybe that fixes

780
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: some of those problems. But I know, for a first

781
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: round pick, you're you're not looking for that. You're looking

782
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: for a guy that's going to come in immediately ready

783
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 1: to play significant snaps. Well, yeah, these offers of Lyne

784
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys had picked in the first round had

785
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 1: been plug and play. Guys have a great history with that. Yeah,

786
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, I was looking at

787
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: the three hundred and forty seven pound man and if

788
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: he's three hundred thirty seven, he's maybe the right direction.

789
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, see. But the thing that is, I think

790
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: his weight causes him to be a little like a

791
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: tick slow coming off the ball, and that puts him

792
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: in some rough spots, it really does. That's interesting because

793
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: you're right, he's kind of been a name that's started

794
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: slowly creeping up there in terms of the needs for

795
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys because of what Aisha just talked about. But

796
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: he might fit that mold as a maybe a second

797
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: round grade, but a first round prospect because he's gonna

798
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: get picked at twenty six, but he may not be

799
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: one of those first round guys that ends up slipping.

800
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: So keep an eye on other Cyrus Torrens out of Florida.

801
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: Let's take our second break. When we come back, I

802
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Speaker 1: want to do a little tell me More. We did

803
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: that yesterday with Dane Brian. I want to pick a

804
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Speaker 1: couple of guys that you've had your eyes on, and

805
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: we'll get your thoughts on it as well. We'll hit

806
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: some with Ayisha as well that she's been waiting and

807
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: chopping at the bit to talk about. Let's do some

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Speaker 1: Bobby Belt back in studio coming up next week. We've

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Speaker 1: got plenty of time. We've got two shows. We're gonna

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00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 1: be back to normal next week and then we're gonna

851
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Speaker 1: start ramping up quickly heading into the NFL Combine. But

852
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: it's time now for a little bit more of tell

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Speaker 1: me more. We did this yesterday with Dane. If you

854
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Speaker 1: missed it, go online Dallas Cowboys dot com the Draft Show.

855
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: It was phenomenal. Just rattled off players as Dane does,

856
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: and he did a great job of it. We're gonna

857
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Speaker 1: do the same with Brian and Aisha. I'm gonna start

858
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: with Aisha. There's a Cincinnati, Cincinnati cat, a Bearcat specifically,

859
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: that you wanted to talk about. His name is Ivan

860
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: Pace Junior. What did he do in mobile that impressed

861
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: you the most? I liked Well, obviously, he shows that

862
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: he has some pass rush ability. He's super hard to

863
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: get hands on. I just what I have down. He

864
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 1: had nine solo tackles in the Senior Bowl game hisself.

865
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: But he diagnoses. He diagnosed as well. But I really

866
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: do think that his ability to be a pass rusher

867
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Speaker 1: and also be able to play the middle of the

868
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Speaker 1: field is going to be something that people look at.

869
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: I say what you want to say, but Michael really

870
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: has changed kind of how people are looking at this

871
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: linebacker position and in size and what can you do

872
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: and can you rush the passers sometimes situationally and stuff.

873
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: And this guy does have the hybrid ability and he

874
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: flashed a lot at the Senior Bowl. So I I

875
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: just love how how he is at the point of

876
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Speaker 1: attack and how slippery is and how he can read

877
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: and get to his gaps. I was impressed with him. Brian.

878
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: I know you said you haven't checked him out yet,

879
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: but um I liked him story too. At Yeah, he

880
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: was a two star prospect getting picked up. I mean

881
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: barely even had like a twenty four to seven page.

882
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Was really not even a high level recruit. Went to Cincinnati,

883
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: played well, earned a scholarship, and then now is continuously

884
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: working his way up the draft board. Initially he was

885
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: in like the like bottom half of this linebacker class,

886
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: and his weekend mobile I think really elevated him quite

887
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: a bit. Now, Brian, you've got a wide receiver from

888
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: Penn State. Different type of cat. This is a nickney

889
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,919
Speaker 1: lyon that you're looking at a wide receiver, Parker Washington.

890
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: You like him a lot, don't you? Absolutely? This is

891
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: this is Steve Smith to me from the old Carolina

892
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: Panther Ravens days. So I'm looking at here so prime

893
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: Steve Smith. Yeah, I love this kid. You know, he's

894
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: a shorter guy. He's really really thick. He's compact, he's explosive.

895
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 1: He does a lot of work out of the slots.

896
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: He's fun to study because he's able to just the

897
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: plays that he makes. He's one of those guys it

898
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: catches the ball over the field. He doesn't have great lenks,

899
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: but man, you see him extend to his fullest to

900
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: make some plays. Hands are supernatural on him. He operates

901
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: in traffic. He just he again, he remind me everything

902
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: of like a shorter, like a compact Steve Smith. And

903
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: he used to play coming out of Utah and just

904
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: made every single play show toughness. You could rely on

905
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: him to make a lot of place. He's from Sugarland, Texas,

906
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: so he's a Texas Texas guy playing up in the

907
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: Big ten. How about that? Now, you also had a

908
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: Tulane prospect you wanted to get in there as well. Brian, Yeah,

909
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: I was. I'll tell you what Tulane I think did

910
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: a tremendous job this year. And then I used she

911
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: was talking about linebackers. I want to talk about a

912
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: kid named Dorian Williams from Tulane, and I think this

913
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: kid's one of the best tacklers in the draft. The

914
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: bigger the play, the better he has to make a stop.

915
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: Super active in the way he plays. He could really

916
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: cover some ground with his speed. He could get to

917
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: the ball carry when you think he's got no chance,

918
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's got the play. He's run

919
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: down to play. He had a tackle in the in

920
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: the Central Florida game that just was that was just

921
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: unbelievable that you know, it's a fourth down, you're thinking

922
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: like quarterback is going to get the first down, and

923
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: he just fetches him from behind there. Kick can really

924
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: really run. You can use him as a spy watching

925
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, he's not much of a pass defender,

926
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: but his ordinary kind of dropping cover guy. But man,

927
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: he makes a ton of plays. He's got legitimate four

928
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: or five speed in an eighty inch wingspan on this kid.

929
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: So you're talking about a guy that could go make

930
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: some plays. Dorian Williams, linebacker, two lane. Take a peek

931
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: at MP can he was kind of the he was

932
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: like the anchor of the middle of that two lane

933
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: defense that really flew to the football and he was

934
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: probably the one that did so. He played in the

935
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: Cotton Bowl kind of wackles. Yeah, he had seventeen cackle Yeah,

936
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: you know in the Cotton Bowl for the MVP. Yeah,

937
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: it's pretty impressive because he had Yeah. Yeah, Taj Spears,

938
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: who we talked about yesterday with Dane running back out

939
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: of Tulane, who was the offensive MVP at that game,

940
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: was really all over the field as a running back.

941
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: And then on the other side of the ball, you

942
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: had a guy like like Williams, Dorian Williams who was

943
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: a linebacker who was the defensive MVP. And both of

944
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: those guys our Senior Bowl prospects, so very fun to watch,

945
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: and they were both impressive in Mobile. You had another

946
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: mobile prospect too that you wanted to hit, dude, h

947
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: Sydney Brown. Sidney Brown. It's fun to me, man, He's

948
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: fun to me because I watching him. The coverage ability Illinois,

949
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: Illinois two hundred eleven pounds from what I know and

950
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: UM watching him. They were in one on one drills

951
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: and for a safety you already know, like well, number

952
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: one one on one drills are not made for dbs.

953
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: Let's let's keep it a buck. But he was so

954
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: good in coverage. But he also he's just his motor

955
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: for for a dB. His motor is crazy. He's so twitchy,

956
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: he look crazy, little crazy, always run around. I think

957
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: he's getting camped to the gentleman that plays for the

958
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 1: forty nine ers who funga. How do you say, yeah, yeah,

959
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: he's getting compared to that guy. But I honestly think

960
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: he's better and coverage than him. And because because of

961
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: how he plays, he's a nuisance to me in the

962
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 1: passing game. I feel like if you put him in

963
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: the dime or you can almost hide him and he

964
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: could be a Swiss Army knife and in your defense

965
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 1: and how you use him, because I do think that

966
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: his coverage ability is good enough to do some corner things.

967
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I was impressed with Um. I was just

968
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: impressed with how he moved around. And like I said,

969
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: due to his side, I feel like you could hide

970
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: him in a way and not hide him in a

971
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: bad way. It's just like I think quarterbacks might not

972
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: see him like I feel like they might not see

973
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: him coming. And just the way he plays, he's I

974
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: call him swiper. Yeah, I call him swiper because I

975
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: just think he can sneak up on you. So Okay,

976
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: definitely not wanting to make sure it's not because he's

977
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: but his birst is great, the effort is great. He's

978
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: just such an active player in the secondary. And I

979
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: think you can deploy You could deploy him to spy,

980
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: you could deploy him to do so many different things.

981
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: This guy has some versatility and I think what he's showing,

982
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: what he could do in coverage UM in the Senior Bowl,

983
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: I think really changes things. And what you could do

984
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: with him in a defense. Four different guys to keep

985
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: an eye on, a little bit of tell me more

986
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: to wrap up the draft show today, Brian, anything you

987
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: want to add before we let you go and get

988
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: out of here. I can't wait to watch Brian, I know,

989
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: but I'll leave you one more guy real quick if

990
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: I should. Of course, you know, I always like well,

991
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: I issue was giving me a great scouting reporter. Watch

992
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: a kid from albur named Tank Digsby. If you're looking

993
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: at running backs. This kid's six foot, two hundred and

994
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds. I know there's everybody's talking about all the

995
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: top guys. Take a peek at Tank Bigsby. Like I say,

996
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,720
Speaker 1: this kid has got lower body power. He's a really

997
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: physical runner. He catches the ball really really well out

998
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: of the backfield. Super dependable in that way. If you know,

999
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: we'll see with you know, with Mike, with Mike mccurthy

1000
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: now calling the plays, we'll see what happened with the

1001
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: running back situations. You got to get a guy that

1002
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: literally that can make plays out of nothing, and this

1003
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: guy does. I mean he's kind of an elusive slasher.

1004
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: But lateral quickness, I mean, this guy can finish. But

1005
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: like to say, the one thing he does really well

1006
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: have catched the football. And so Cowboys are gonna be

1007
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: looking for those multi multi use guys. I think again,

1008
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: if we'll see what happens. We had Michael Lombardi on yesterday,

1009
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: he said, by all means they the Cowboys needed to

1010
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: tag Tony Pollard in this thing because he was the

1011
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: He is the ultimate weapon to have. But name to

1012
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: keep in mind, Tank Biggsby, Auburn running back for those

1013
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: that are watching on the stream or on the podcast post,

1014
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: we're actually showing some highlights of Bigsby at the moment,

1015
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: and yeah, he's he's kind of a lateral runner. He

1016
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: goes side to side well, has a little bit of

1017
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: explosiveness to him. Three years starter at tailback, Brian, He's

1018
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: got a little bit of tread on the tires. He's

1019
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: been experienced, which is a good thing. And he went

1020
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: through the SEC gauntlet and at six foot two thirteen,

1021
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: I mean he's got some cowards up to his name. No,

1022
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: he lives up to his name. Yeah, yeah, he lives

1023
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 1: up to his name. And like I said, you're gonna

1024
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: like this kid the more that you study him, you

1025
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: really really are. I like it a lot. Yeah, I've

1026
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: already marked him down. He looks good on these highlights

1027
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: that we're showing him. These are up against San Jose

1028
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: State and here he is against Missouri, so lots of

1029
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: fun to be had. We are still in the informational

1030
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: gathering side of things, but this is getting good. We

1031
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 1: are getting into the nitty gritty of the twenty twenty

1032
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: three draft class. But that's going to do it for

1033
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: us here on this Thursday, edition of the Draft Show.

1034
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: Thank goodness as the last time we're apart. We will

1035
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: be back together on Wednesday, all four of us, Brian Bobby, Ayesha,

1036
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: myself and then Chris Beam who goes out and finds Tank,

1037
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: Bigsby b Role throughout the week who's doing a great

1038
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: job running things in the back. But that's going to

1039
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: do it for us. Have fun, everybody. We'll see you

1040
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, elemit am Central time is when we'll get

1041
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: started for more Draft Show. For Brian Bobby or Brian

1042
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: Bobby and I Yesha even though Bobby's not here, and

1043
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: for Chris Beam'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long for the

1044
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: Draft Show. We'll see you next week. This has been

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