1
00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,840
Speaker 1: From Mediators World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is

2
00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,360
Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel. Steel products are available

3
00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,160
Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers

4
00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,840
Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan. Five

5
00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,280
Speaker 1: percent of wildfires are sparked by humans, and a new

6
00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,760
Speaker 1: study published in the Wildlife Society Bulletin points to yet

7
00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,320
Speaker 1: another way we've been lighting nature on fire. According to

8
00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,560
Speaker 1: the study, forty four wildfires were lit in the contiguous

9
00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,879
Speaker 1: United States between two thousand fourteen and two thousand eighteen

10
00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,120
Speaker 1: by quote Avian electrocutions. Those are birds that are on fire.

11
00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:51,400
Speaker 1: Flom de bird, if you will, but he just caught

12
00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,720
Speaker 1: fire about time to These occur when a bird simultaneously

13
00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,440
Speaker 1: contacts and energize power wire and a path to the ground,

14
00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,840
Speaker 1: such as a grounded piece of equipment like a transformer.

15
00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,760
Speaker 1: Birds can also get electrocuted when they simultaneously contact two

16
00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,319
Speaker 1: energized wires at the same time. Raptor species like eagles

17
00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,880
Speaker 1: and vultures are particularly affected, and most of the fires

18
00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:22,400
Speaker 1: occurred in California, in ecoregion known as Mediterranean California, which

19
00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,600
Speaker 1: encompasses about half the state along the coastline. Ten of

20
00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,920
Speaker 1: the forty four fires sparked by avian electrocutions were in

21
00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:36,160
Speaker 1: the Mediterranean California region. Now, we don't know why California

22
00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,600
Speaker 1: barbecues so many birds, but we do know California, so

23
00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,920
Speaker 1: it's safe to assume birds are possibly power. Polls may

24
00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:47,680
Speaker 1: be illegal in the near future. This week, we've got

25
00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,080
Speaker 1: crime legislation, ponies and e h D. But first I'm

26
00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,640
Speaker 1: gonna tell you about my week. In My week, as

27
00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, is brought to you by Steel Power Equipment,

28
00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,720
Speaker 1: steel makers of the world's finest chainsaws. I want to

29
00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,680
Speaker 1: give a quick shout out to all the athletes I

30
00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,400
Speaker 1: met at this year's Steel Power Sports Championships who happened

31
00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,960
Speaker 1: to be hunters too. It's about time putting down the

32
00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,920
Speaker 1: saws and axes and pick up bows and rifles. And

33
00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,520
Speaker 1: trust me when I say you want these folks in

34
00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,600
Speaker 1: your wilderness hunting camp. They can stack up the wood

35
00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,480
Speaker 1: real fast. As you know, hunting season is here. Hopefully

36
00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,520
Speaker 1: you're flinging arrows. I know I have been. I've been

37
00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,679
Speaker 1: running old Snore to kiss every day in the river.

38
00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,240
Speaker 1: Her landwork is in need of more repetition, but it's

39
00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,359
Speaker 1: just too darn hot. I've managed to get three rounds

40
00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,440
Speaker 1: of sporting clays in so far. By the time you

41
00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,880
Speaker 1: hear this, it'll be four old Casey hawks. Who's your

42
00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,680
Speaker 1: head of customer service? And I have a you know,

43
00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:52,080
Speaker 1: Clay pigeon date. First Light is doing some really incredible

44
00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,119
Speaker 1: work on the clothing front. They just opened a new

45
00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,480
Speaker 1: store front and Hailey, Idaho. You can see everything there

46
00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,960
Speaker 1: firsthand if you happen to come through, including the brand

47
00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,480
Speaker 1: new waterfowl line and everything else is brand new. One

48
00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,400
Speaker 1: thing you may not know is I was the first

49
00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,959
Speaker 1: employee at First Light. Things are really scrappy back then.

50
00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,080
Speaker 1: We worked really hard, made some great stuff. But I

51
00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,640
Speaker 1: will say that what FL is creating right now that's

52
00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,440
Speaker 1: an abbreviation for First Light Try to keep up, is

53
00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,600
Speaker 1: just at a much higher level. It's not even comparable

54
00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,359
Speaker 1: to what we were doing ten years ago. It's humbling

55
00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,320
Speaker 1: and really cool to see, and of course I'm looking

56
00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,120
Speaker 1: forward to thrashing the living hell out of all of

57
00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,080
Speaker 1: that gear this season, providing every opportunity for product failure.

58
00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,920
Speaker 1: Old snort and I can I hope you are doing

59
00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,880
Speaker 1: the same, but I know we'll all be surprised at

60
00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,640
Speaker 1: the abuse the gear can absorb and withstand good luck,

61
00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:55,320
Speaker 1: have fun, Be safe out there and be courteous and kind.

62
00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,480
Speaker 1: Say hello. You may just bump into me, and you

63
00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,200
Speaker 1: don't want to run into the wrong side. Out of

64
00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:07,680
Speaker 1: the weekend review. Moving on to the crime desk, Authorities

65
00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,200
Speaker 1: are asking for the public's help and identifying a man

66
00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,040
Speaker 1: who shot a bear hunter in the Washington Blue Mountains

67
00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,200
Speaker 1: near Walla Walla, Washington. The city so nice they named

68
00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,320
Speaker 1: it twice. According to local media, the hunter was looking

69
00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,480
Speaker 1: for a barriage shot while his partner stayed on the

70
00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,520
Speaker 1: mountain side to watch his progress. A shot rang out,

71
00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,440
Speaker 1: and the hunter on the mountains saw his buddy fall

72
00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,920
Speaker 1: to the ground and rolled down the hill. He rushed

73
00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,800
Speaker 1: across the canyon and saw another man running away through

74
00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,680
Speaker 1: a farm field. He also said he heard voices from

75
00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,880
Speaker 1: at least two hunters as he made his way to

76
00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,400
Speaker 1: his friend. The hunter who had been shot was bleeding profusely,

77
00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,839
Speaker 1: but he made it to the hospital where he is recovering.

78
00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,200
Speaker 1: Detectives are obtaining search warrants for vehicles that were seen

79
00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,400
Speaker 1: in the area. But if you have any info into

80
00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,320
Speaker 1: this case, give the Walla Walla Sheriff's office a call

81
00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,560
Speaker 1: at five zero nine five to seven, three to six five.

82
00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,679
Speaker 1: The incident occurred in Nightingale Canyon, about five miles east

83
00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,880
Speaker 1: of wall al Wala. Even if your state does not

84
00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,159
Speaker 1: require it, I personally prefer to pack a minimum of

85
00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,839
Speaker 1: a blaze orange beanie took or ball cap for when

86
00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,960
Speaker 1: my hunt is over. It also helped for signaling other people,

87
00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,039
Speaker 1: not just not getting shot anyway. A couple in the

88
00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,040
Speaker 1: Florida Keys was arrested recently for attacking a man they

89
00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,839
Speaker 1: said was snorkeling too close to their dock. We've covered

90
00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,640
Speaker 1: how touchy dock owners can be about anglers getting too

91
00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,839
Speaker 1: close to their private kingdoms in Florida. For this couple,

92
00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,600
Speaker 1: snorkeling was a bridge too far. They argued with the

93
00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,640
Speaker 1: snorkeler for a few minutes before they went after him.

94
00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,640
Speaker 1: Sixty five year old Paolo day Olivera was charged with

95
00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,800
Speaker 1: aggravated battery after he hit the swimmer with quote some

96
00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,920
Speaker 1: kind of poll while sixty one year old Katie Day

97
00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,200
Speaker 1: Olivera was charged with battery for hitting him with a

98
00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,599
Speaker 1: fishing pole. The man was reportedly bleeding profusely from his

99
00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,800
Speaker 1: head when he was pulled out of the water by

100
00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,600
Speaker 1: his family in a nearby boat. I got to tell you,

101
00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,479
Speaker 1: this is next level crazy. There is nothing more docile

102
00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,920
Speaker 1: and non threatening than somebody snorkeling even the most fish.

103
00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,760
Speaker 1: Trust me on that one. The Oliveras weren't the only

104
00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,760
Speaker 1: Florida couple who found themselves in hot water for wildlife

105
00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,440
Speaker 1: related crimes. To Miami men were arrested in July after

106
00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,080
Speaker 1: officers found an endangered key deer in their car during

107
00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:29,120
Speaker 1: a recent traffic stop. Key deer are the smallest existing

108
00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,960
Speaker 1: North American deer species, and they are only found in

109
00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,960
Speaker 1: the lower Florida Keys. The men claimed they had hit

110
00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,680
Speaker 1: the deer and were taking it to a vet in Miami,

111
00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,560
Speaker 1: but when Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission officers responded

112
00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,200
Speaker 1: to the scene, they pointed out that the area isn't

113
00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,960
Speaker 1: even key deer habitat. The men were arrested and could

114
00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,840
Speaker 1: face fell any charges and probably not tiny ones next up.

115
00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,360
Speaker 1: I know it can be tempting to take the occasional

116
00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,360
Speaker 1: shot at neighborhood food, but two recent stories from New

117
00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,400
Speaker 1: Mexico and British Columbia should help alleviate that temptation. In

118
00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,200
Speaker 1: New Mexico, A roswell man was arrested recently after he

119
00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,239
Speaker 1: admitted to sheriff's deputies that he was hunting doves without

120
00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,640
Speaker 1: a license in a residential neighborhood. He claimed he didn't

121
00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,280
Speaker 1: know the hunting rags because he was from another planet

122
00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,559
Speaker 1: and the FEDS already confiscated his spaceship. Love children comin,

123
00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, and that's a roswell joke. Forty one

124
00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,520
Speaker 1: year old Thomas Vick is from this solar system as

125
00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,920
Speaker 1: far as we know, but that didn't save him from

126
00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,960
Speaker 1: being charged with negligent use of a deadly weapon and

127
00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,600
Speaker 1: hunting small game without a license. Residents told deputies they

128
00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,280
Speaker 1: saw him fire four shots into the air with his shotgun.

129
00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:49,480
Speaker 1: No word on whether he hit anything. In British Columbia,

130
00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,040
Speaker 1: another enterprising urban hunter was fined seven thousand dollars and

131
00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,000
Speaker 1: banned from hunting for six years after admitting to shooting

132
00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,440
Speaker 1: a mule deer in a residential neighborhood. Thanks to listener

133
00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,400
Speaker 1: Sean Earth for sending this one. In andre Comb, you

134
00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,160
Speaker 1: pled guilty to one count of hunting out of season

135
00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,880
Speaker 1: and one count of something called hunting without consideration, which

136
00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,840
Speaker 1: is just about the most Canadian sounding crime I can

137
00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,840
Speaker 1: think of. I will admit that I hunt all of

138
00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,800
Speaker 1: the time without considering at a minimum what Peter thinks.

139
00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,240
Speaker 1: For instance, Comu admitted to shooting the deer with a

140
00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,320
Speaker 1: crossbow in a neighborhood and the southern BC town of Kelowna.

141
00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,400
Speaker 1: He shot the deer and tried to track it through

142
00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,320
Speaker 1: his neighbor's yards before leaving it to die in someone's

143
00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,640
Speaker 1: flower garden. The optics, let alone the fact that he

144
00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,000
Speaker 1: left the deer are definitely not good. It's as if

145
00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,280
Speaker 1: Comu was not hunting well considering US hunters, who cares

146
00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,679
Speaker 1: about his neighbors. Moving up the coast to Alaska, an

147
00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,120
Speaker 1: author in Prolific bow hunter was fine fifteen thousand dollars

148
00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,960
Speaker 1: and had his hunting license revoked for three years for

149
00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,679
Speaker 1: violating the state's musk Ox hunting rules. Fifty six year

150
00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,760
Speaker 1: old Paul Atkins was originally hit with twelve charges for

151
00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,880
Speaker 1: keying trophies from a subsistence harvest and claiming residency status

152
00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,439
Speaker 1: in both Alaska and Oklahoma simultaneously. Subsistence hunting permits for

153
00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,040
Speaker 1: Muskoks are hard to come by, but the state grants

154
00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,160
Speaker 1: them to folks who proved that they need to harvest

155
00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,720
Speaker 1: the meat for food. In keeping with the purpose of

156
00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,200
Speaker 1: the permits, successful hunters must remove the horns within two

157
00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,360
Speaker 1: inches of the eye level prior to leaving the kill site.

158
00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,679
Speaker 1: This is to discourage hunters from trying to get subsistence

159
00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,400
Speaker 1: permits just a bag of trophy. Atkins may have eaten

160
00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,720
Speaker 1: all the meat, but he failed to remove the horns.

161
00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,600
Speaker 1: He was forced to turn over twenty taxidermy musk ox

162
00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:42,440
Speaker 1: as part of his punishment, moving on to the legislative desk.

163
00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,640
Speaker 1: In New Jersey, the mayor of a coastal town called

164
00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,000
Speaker 1: Sea Isle City announced a ban on shark fishing from

165
00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,240
Speaker 1: the beach, and violators could be fined up to one thousand,

166
00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,679
Speaker 1: two U fifty dollars for shark fishing. It's unclear how

167
00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,600
Speaker 1: city officials planned to enforce this new ban. After all,

168
00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,800
Speaker 1: shark fishing looks a heck of a lot like fishing

169
00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,240
Speaker 1: for other species, and anglers can't control what bites their books.

170
00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,120
Speaker 1: Anglers can also just move along the beach to another

171
00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,240
Speaker 1: municipality if they don't want to worry about being harasked

172
00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,200
Speaker 1: for catching a shark. However, the city did make a

173
00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,040
Speaker 1: few concrete changes to their fishing rags. Chumming, the use

174
00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,680
Speaker 1: of unmanned drones to drop bait, or having the assistance

175
00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,319
Speaker 1: of any water vessel will now be prohibited. The band

176
00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,680
Speaker 1: was apparently prompted by several shark catches that went viral

177
00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,120
Speaker 1: on social media. In Kentucky, the Department of Fish and

178
00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,920
Speaker 1: Wildlife Resources has proposed reducing the spring turkey bag limit

179
00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,960
Speaker 1: to one bird per hunter per state Wildlife Management area.

180
00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,160
Speaker 1: As we've covered several times over the last few months,

181
00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,760
Speaker 1: turkey populations are declining all across the country, and state

182
00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:52,600
Speaker 1: wildlife managers are making changes to address this troubling trend. However,

183
00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,920
Speaker 1: while I'm in favor of doing what we need to

184
00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,960
Speaker 1: do to protect the resource, this new proposal in Kentucky

185
00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,880
Speaker 1: doesn't seem equitable. First, it only targets public land hunters,

186
00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,000
Speaker 1: which birds have wings, so you know, they don't know

187
00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,520
Speaker 1: what offense is, they don't know what property boundaries are,

188
00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,360
Speaker 1: they don't have on X And at the same time,

189
00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,960
Speaker 1: private land turkey hunters who may border state w m

190
00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,160
Speaker 1: a s are still permitted to beg two turkeys under

191
00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,760
Speaker 1: this proposed rule. Did I mention you can call to

192
00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,520
Speaker 1: turkeys and manipulate them to coming into places that they

193
00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,600
Speaker 1: don't want to go anyway. Public land only accounts for

194
00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,920
Speaker 1: two percent of the state's overall land mass, and public

195
00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,160
Speaker 1: land hunters only account for about three percent of the

196
00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,360
Speaker 1: turkey harvest every year. According to the State Chapter of

197
00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,640
Speaker 1: back Country Hunters and Anglers, this proposal would only reduce

198
00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,040
Speaker 1: next year's turkey harvest by about two hundred and sixteen turkeys,

199
00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,320
Speaker 1: or point eight percent of the total harvest. It seems

200
00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:56,959
Speaker 1: like Kentucky maybe regulating public land hunters, not the turkey population.

201
00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,679
Speaker 1: Big game hunting seasons are kicking off across us the country,

202
00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,559
Speaker 1: so now is a good time to check your state's

203
00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,600
Speaker 1: hunting legs to see if anything has changed. And remember,

204
00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,319
Speaker 1: just like in Kentucky, we can only change regulations by

205
00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:15,520
Speaker 1: showing up by participating in surveys and public meetings. In Michigan,

206
00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,080
Speaker 1: white tail hunters will now be required to report a

207
00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,560
Speaker 1: successful harvest within seventy two hours or before transferring possession

208
00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,840
Speaker 1: of the deer. Hunters can report their harvests online at

209
00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,319
Speaker 1: Michigan dot gov or on the Michigan d n R

210
00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,280
Speaker 1: Hunt Fish Mobile app. The DNR believes that This new system,

211
00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,280
Speaker 1: which is similar to what other states have, will increase

212
00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,760
Speaker 1: hunter participation in reporting, provide vital information to biologists in

213
00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,240
Speaker 1: real time, and save the department costs with reduced mailings

214
00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,600
Speaker 1: and hard copy surveys. For folks in the other forty

215
00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:49,840
Speaker 1: nine states, most state fish and Game agencies published documents

216
00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,600
Speaker 1: listing all the significant changes from the previous year before

217
00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,480
Speaker 1: heading out into the field. Get your hands on that

218
00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,800
Speaker 1: document to make sure you stay on the right side

219
00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,040
Speaker 1: of the law, and you know we don't end up

220
00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,400
Speaker 1: covering any discretions here at the weekend review. Moving on

221
00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:14,320
Speaker 1: to the horse desk for it's a mouthful. Earlier this month,

222
00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,400
Speaker 1: the Bureau of Land Management announced its intentions to scale

223
00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,040
Speaker 1: up roundups of wild horses and burrows from federal arrange lands.

224
00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,240
Speaker 1: Once those horse gathers are completed, the BLM will then

225
00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,120
Speaker 1: begin increasing its use of fertility controls to further limit

226
00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,360
Speaker 1: the population. According to any News, the agency has rounded

227
00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,280
Speaker 1: up a record fifteen thousand, forty wild horses and burrows

228
00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,400
Speaker 1: since October of last year and permanently removed thirteen thousand,

229
00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,760
Speaker 1: nine hundred thirty. The BLM is rounding up the horses

230
00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,079
Speaker 1: because they say there are too many for federal lands

231
00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,839
Speaker 1: to sustain without causing damage to vegetation, soils, and other resources.

232
00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:55,840
Speaker 1: The agency capped population at twenty six thousand, seven five animals.

233
00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,680
Speaker 1: Right now, there are eighty two thousand three eighty four

234
00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,120
Speaker 1: wild horses and burrows roaming twenty seven million acres of

235
00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,240
Speaker 1: federal herd management areas in ten Western states. Of course,

236
00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,320
Speaker 1: wild horse advocates aren't happy with government roundups. They believe

237
00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,480
Speaker 1: fertility controls are more humane, more effective, and cheaper, and

238
00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:19,000
Speaker 1: have the added benefit of keeping the horses quote wild

239
00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,080
Speaker 1: and free. Whereas the BLM appears to agree. They say

240
00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,640
Speaker 1: that they plan to cut the horse roundups by more

241
00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,960
Speaker 1: than fifty percent next year and increase the use of

242
00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,600
Speaker 1: fertility treatments. If you haven't been following this story, you

243
00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,280
Speaker 1: might be wondering where these horses came from and where

244
00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,480
Speaker 1: they go after the BLM herds them into trailers and corrals.

245
00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,840
Speaker 1: The first question is much less controversial than the second.

246
00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,800
Speaker 1: Horses were introduced to the Americas in the fift hundreds

247
00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,280
Speaker 1: by Spanish explorers. Some of them escaped and became the

248
00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,520
Speaker 1: foundation for the wild horses that still roam the western US.

249
00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,080
Speaker 1: Even though The horses aren't a native species, just like

250
00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,080
Speaker 1: the Sechuan ring neck pheasant. They've been a symbol for

251
00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,720
Speaker 1: a long time, but they do not belong here, and

252
00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,920
Speaker 1: the BLM is obligated to manage the population in a

253
00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,400
Speaker 1: sustainable way. However, with no natural predators, the herds are

254
00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:12,920
Speaker 1: growing by fifteen each year. According to the BLM. This

255
00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,640
Speaker 1: is forced the agency to remove some animals if it

256
00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,240
Speaker 1: looks like one of the herds is threatening the larger ecosystem.

257
00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,600
Speaker 1: The controversy stems from that second question, what do we

258
00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,840
Speaker 1: do with all these horses? As of July, the BLM

259
00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,880
Speaker 1: was holding fifty eight thousand, eight hundred wild horses and

260
00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,960
Speaker 1: burrows in off range corrals and holding facilities. Keeping these

261
00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,040
Speaker 1: horses fed and housed cost seventy seven point six million

262
00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,400
Speaker 1: in fiscal year two thousand twenty one, which is about

263
00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,120
Speaker 1: six of the total wild horse and burrow program budget.

264
00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,880
Speaker 1: That's part of what we pay for in our taxes.

265
00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,920
Speaker 1: The BLM operates an adoption incentive program to place horses

266
00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,640
Speaker 1: in private care, but critics argue that some of these

267
00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,000
Speaker 1: horses end up being sold and turned into you know,

268
00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,120
Speaker 1: glue or dog food or those things you Yellowstone fans,

269
00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,480
Speaker 1: not the park. Well, probably you folks at the park too,

270
00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,680
Speaker 1: but you Yellowstone fans, you know the crappy TV show

271
00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,400
Speaker 1: that's being called like the Dallas of this Generation. That's right,

272
00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,040
Speaker 1: the Dallas of this Generation. For you folks who are

273
00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:21,600
Speaker 1: fans of that show, that's what you're being associated with. Anyway,

274
00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,160
Speaker 1: as you folks who have moved out here to Montana

275
00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,560
Speaker 1: and bought, you know, twenty acres in the middle of

276
00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,160
Speaker 1: Migration Corridor and threw a couple of horses out there

277
00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,240
Speaker 1: that were fun to mess around with at first, but

278
00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,680
Speaker 1: just start getting really super fat and cost me a

279
00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,560
Speaker 1: bunch of tons of money or kind of figuring out

280
00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,840
Speaker 1: on your own. Uncared for horses eventually end up at

281
00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,280
Speaker 1: slaughter houses because they're expensive and they beat the living

282
00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,520
Speaker 1: crap out of the land. Now, wild horse and borrow

283
00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,080
Speaker 1: advocates say about eight hundred and forty horses have ended

284
00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,080
Speaker 1: up in slaughter houses here in the United States since

285
00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,720
Speaker 1: two thousand, nineteen, eight hundred and forty. That is absolutely nothing.

286
00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,080
Speaker 1: I'd love to see how many while horses and burrows

287
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,040
Speaker 1: get hit on the interstate and highways in comparison to

288
00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:09,080
Speaker 1: the slaughter house numbers. Horse eating countries are far more

289
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,439
Speaker 1: numerous than horse killing countries. Like a lot of our

290
00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,879
Speaker 1: fancy tastes, we leave the killing or you know, quote

291
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,680
Speaker 1: dirty business to a few, but many enjoy the actual

292
00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,400
Speaker 1: spoils anyway. China in two thousand eighteen killed about one

293
00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:31,840
Speaker 1: point six million horses. Behind them Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Kyrgyzstan, Brazil, Australia, Russia.

294
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,280
Speaker 1: And you know the folks that we like to pick

295
00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,600
Speaker 1: on a lot for horse eating France, well you know

296
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,639
Speaker 1: they come in at a very paltry two d and

297
00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:45,119
Speaker 1: fifty thousand animals, not exactly leading the charge. It's true

298
00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,200
Speaker 1: that biologists can administer fertility controls with darts, but as

299
00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:53,120
Speaker 1: with every wildlife management issue, the problem and the solution

300
00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,040
Speaker 1: isn't as simple as activists would have you believe. Some

301
00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,000
Speaker 1: herds are inaccessible and unapproachable except by hell copter. Others

302
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,200
Speaker 1: need to be taken off the landscape before they starve

303
00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,280
Speaker 1: or die of thirst and droughts or plugues that hit

304
00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,040
Speaker 1: the West every summer. It's a sticky issue with no

305
00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,760
Speaker 1: easy solutions, you know, according to some, but the various

306
00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:18,480
Speaker 1: stakeholders are talking the free roaming equids and Ecosystems. Sustainability

307
00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,879
Speaker 1: Network is a group of organizations working to sustain healthy

308
00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,240
Speaker 1: horse herds and range lands. They seek to enhance communication

309
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,520
Speaker 1: and engage diverse stakeholder groups in meaningful dialogue. They have

310
00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,920
Speaker 1: a summit coming up this October, so you know we'll

311
00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:38,000
Speaker 1: all look forward to that. My horse sense says more

312
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:43,120
Speaker 1: of the same. Moving on to the wolf desk, are

313
00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,800
Speaker 1: good friends over at the Center for Biological Diversity or

314
00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,800
Speaker 1: CBD submitted a petition this month to withhold federal conservation

315
00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,919
Speaker 1: funding from Idaho and Montana. They argue that because these

316
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,280
Speaker 1: states have adopted quote anti wolf legislation, they should be

317
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 1: barred from receiving millions of dollars that help conserve thousands

318
00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,640
Speaker 1: of lance and animals. You know the old saying, don't

319
00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,440
Speaker 1: cut off your nose despite your face. This is kind

320
00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 1: of like that. The CBD is asking the US Fish

321
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,359
Speaker 1: and Wildlife Service to cut off all Pittman Robertson funds

322
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 1: from two huge states because the animal rights groups doesn't

323
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 1: like their wolf management policies. Very similar to a tactics

324
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,479
Speaker 1: some of are desperate to be reelected have done with

325
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:26,280
Speaker 1: a proposed firearm legislation CBD is toying with Pittman robertson

326
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,040
Speaker 1: one of the greatest tools for conservation funding we have

327
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,880
Speaker 1: in this country. Side note Montana Representative Matt Rosendale. I'm

328
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 1: still waiting on a letter email call back. I'm getting

329
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,680
Speaker 1: a real taste of how customer service works in Maryland. Anyway,

330
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,960
Speaker 1: Here's what CBD Legal director Andreas A. Carti said in

331
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 1: the press release quote Montana and Idaho have relied on

332
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,199
Speaker 1: anti wolf rhetoric to pass aggressive laws permitting the widespread

333
00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: slaughter of wolves with zero basis in ethics or science.

334
00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 1: These new laws run completely contrary to conservation goal and

335
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,879
Speaker 1: they should disqualify bull states from receiving conservation funding. I

336
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 1: wasn't a big fan of these wolf management bills. I

337
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,639
Speaker 1: think wildlife management should be left to the biologists in

338
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 1: fishing game agencies, not politicians in state legislatures. The policies

339
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 1: themselves weren't supported by the states wildlife biologists, and that's

340
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 1: a huge problem. But cutting off all federal conservation funding

341
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 1: would hurt wolves just as much as it would hurt

342
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: every other wild animal in these two states. In two

343
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,479
Speaker 1: thousand twenty, Montana received twenty three million in federal grants

344
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: to conserve habitat and wildlife. Montana's entire budget for that

345
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,159
Speaker 1: year was about ninety million, meaning federal dollars account for

346
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,880
Speaker 1: twenty of the annual income. It's the same story in Idaho,

347
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 1: where Pittman, Robertson and Dingle Johnson money represents about fifteen

348
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 1: percent of the state's fishing game budget. Moving on to

349
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 1: the medical desk, if you're a deer hunter, you're probably

350
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 1: familiar with the disease known as epizoodic hemorrhage disease or

351
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: e h D. E h D is caused by two

352
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 1: virus strands that infect white tailed deer, mule deer, and reindeer.

353
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: H D is transmitted by tiny biting flies, most commonly

354
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,959
Speaker 1: known as no sums or gnats, and the quick acting

355
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 1: ailment has been the cause of significant mortality events. Until now,

356
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: there has been no treatment or cure. Frost kills the

357
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: flies in late fall, which usually ends the seasonal outbreaks,

358
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: But just this month, the Indiana State Board of Animal

359
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 1: Health announced that an experimental vaccine is currently being tested

360
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 1: on captive deer herds in the state. Thanks to Wade

361
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: Peterson for sending this one in the vaccine is being

362
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: developed by an outfit called med Gene Labs, and despite

363
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: having a name that could come straight out of a

364
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: Marvel comic book, they've been generating data from the vaccine

365
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 1: since two thousand sixteen, and in two thousand twenty they

366
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 1: began working with a vet in Missouri to test its

367
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:58,640
Speaker 1: efficacy on young deer fons. They've vaccinated ten fawns, all

368
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 1: of which generated and in une response strong enough to

369
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: kill the virus. The vaccine is still considered experimental, but

370
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 1: Madgin Labs is making it available to captive deer herds

371
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: upon request and approval from the owners. Of course, e

372
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: h D isn't the real boogeyman in the deer management world.

373
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: That honor goes to another acronym. I'm sure I don't

374
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: even have to repeat Chronic wasting disease or c w D.

375
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 1: C w D is still a major problem, and as

376
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: we look forward to the upcoming deer season, it's a

377
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 1: great time to, you know, think about how much we

378
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,479
Speaker 1: appreciate getting out the deer woods. So maybe contact your

379
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: senators about the Chronic Wasting Disease Research and Management Act.

380
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: This bill would provide seventy million dollars annually to be

381
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 1: spent on c w D research and management. It's by

382
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: far and away our country's biggest investment to date in

383
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: limiting the diseases spread, and it's already been passed by

384
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,439
Speaker 1: the U. S. House. It's currently being considered by the

385
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: Senate Agricultural Committee, and supporters are asking more senators to

386
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,439
Speaker 1: become co sponsors so we can pass set by the

387
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: end of the year. So stop what you're doing, pause

388
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: this podcast and call your senator asked them to become

389
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: a co sponsor of the Chronic Wasting Disease Research and

390
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: Management Act. Hopefully, before too long, I'll be reporting about

391
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: an effective c w D vaccine thanks to you. Moving

392
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: on to the fishing desk. Will end today on a

393
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 1: positive note. Lake sturgeon are making a comeback in Georgia.

394
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: The prehistoric fish was wiped out in the Coosa River

395
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: in the seventies, but researchers with the University of Georgia

396
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 1: recently found evidence that female sturgeon are once again reproducing

397
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: in the river. Historically, the Cousa River basin was the

398
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 1: only place lake sturgeon could be found in the state.

399
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: They were extirpated due to poor water quality and over harvesting.

400
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: Both the fish and its eggs were highly sought for food.

401
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: The reintroduction efforts began around two thousand two when the

402
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 1: Georgia d n R took sturgeon from Wisconsin and put

403
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: them in the Couster system. They felt they would be

404
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: successful because the Clean Water Act had made the habitat

405
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: livable and harvest bands would ensure the fish weren't over

406
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: fished again. But here's the thing about sturgeon. It takes

407
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: twenty years for the females to reach sexual maturity. So

408
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: even though the Georgia d n R stock sturgeon in

409
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: the river system every year, they weren't sure whether the

410
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: fish would be healthy enough to reproduce. Now it looks

411
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: like they have their answer. A University of Georgia research

412
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: team led by Professor Marty Hamill recently discovered three females

413
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: carrying mature eggs ready to be fertilized. Good news for

414
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: you sturgeon males. It's the first time anybody has found

415
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: a sexually mature female since the reintroduction program begam Bad

416
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: news for you females. As Hamil explained, it means the

417
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: fish are ready to spawn now. Researchers are trying to

418
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: catch as many lake sturgeon as they can this summer

419
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: to get a sense of how many fish there are,

420
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: how old they are, and where they like to live.

421
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: This info will be crucial as they continue to build

422
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: the sturgeon population until hopefully it's healthy enough to be

423
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: fish sustainably. Sturgeon or fish with an exo skeleton super

424
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: cool whiskers. They eat old wide variety of things, from

425
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: nightcrawlers to dead fish, prehistoric creatures swimming in our waters

426
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: that we literally could and will eliminate from the earth

427
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: if we aren't careful. They taste great, they fight like

428
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: hell on a rotten reel, and are the largest freshwater

429
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: fish swimming in the United States. Sounds like something we

430
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: should take care of. Huh. That's all I've got for

431
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: you this week. Thank you so much for listening. Don't

432
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: forget to write in to ask Cal that's a s

433
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: k C. A L. At the Meat Eater dot com

434
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: and let me know what's going on in your neck

435
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: of the woods. And don't forget to check out www

436
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: dot steel Dealers dot com to find a local, knowledgeable

437
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: steel dealer near you. Get you set up with what

438
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: you need, and they won't send you home with what

439
00:25:52,359 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: you don't