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Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is

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Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel. Steel products are available

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Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan. Officials

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Speaker 1: in the United Kingdom are searching for an animal rights

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Speaker 1: activist known as carp Karen after footage emerged of the

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Speaker 1: woman berating a carp angler at a lake in Kent.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four year old Elsa Jones had just landed a

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Speaker 1: big orange and black carp and was trying to film

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Speaker 1: herself removing it from the net when she was approached

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Speaker 1: by another woman. According to The New York Post, this

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Speaker 1: other one began yelling at Jones, calling her disgusting and

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Speaker 1: ordering her to put the fish back in the water.

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Speaker 1: Jones remained surprisingly calm as she tried to explain that

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Speaker 1: the lake, known as Brooklands Lake, is a popular carp fishery.

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Speaker 1: We can't play most of the change because this is

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Speaker 1: a family friendly podcast, but here's a little of what

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Speaker 1: that sounded like. Think back in the water, not dad already,

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Speaker 1: vil you are you are a fish right and you

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Speaker 1: don't go fishing? Daughter? You should be drowned. My life

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Speaker 1: fish are if you're having trouble understanding that accent, The

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Speaker 1: woman calls Jones a vile B word, a disgrace, and

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Speaker 1: says she should be drowned. At other points during the exchange,

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Speaker 1: she says Jones is quote not even effing human, and

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Speaker 1: wonders why she likes torturing animals for fun. Anglers have

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Speaker 1: had honest debates about the merits of catching release fishing.

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Speaker 1: I've heard from some of you who wonder whether it's

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Speaker 1: okay to hook a fish just to throw it back again.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's safe to say that carp Karen

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Speaker 1: isn't the best spokesperson for this point of view. It's

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Speaker 1: also worth noting that Jones appears to be an excellent

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Speaker 1: catching release angler. She has the carp in a long

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Speaker 1: net clearly designed for moving the fish safely, and even

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Speaker 1: as she's being yelled at, she continues to pour water

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Speaker 1: along the fish. She told The New York Post that

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Speaker 1: she released the fish without any further incident, but she

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Speaker 1: hasn't been seen in the area since. I mean, who

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Speaker 1: could be rate somebody with the name of Elsa Jones.

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Speaker 1: I mean talk about non threatening. This week we've got legislation,

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Speaker 1: poop and nimby. But first I'm gonna tell you about

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Speaker 1: my week, and my week was great. Upon my return

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Speaker 1: home from Arkansas, I took a duck hunting break to

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Speaker 1: cold snap froze the rivers. I had wondered if a

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Speaker 1: majority of the birds would leave Montana for good, but

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Speaker 1: there appeared to be some reverse migrators or new birds

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Speaker 1: in the area. Now. I keep a dozen goose decoys

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Speaker 1: in the old stock trailer at my mom's place. Over

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Speaker 1: why don't you just go out instead of talking about it?

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Speaker 1: So we did. Got the goose decoys out by about

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Speaker 1: live honker walking around the decoys before the shotgun had

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Speaker 1: emerged from the case. By am, I did a slight

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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty five degrees for forty hours. Then

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Speaker 1: Brian the breast for corned beef sandwiches. It feels good

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Speaker 1: to have dedicated to lunch meat. Now for the snort report,

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Speaker 1: flat out refusal to bring a goose to hand, and

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Speaker 1: she broke repeatedly as in old snort a kiss, did

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Speaker 1: Big step back from a near bulletproof dog which I

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Speaker 1: duck hunting without her while I was in Kansas, and

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Speaker 1: this was my payback. Nevertheless, we're back in the field training,

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Speaker 1: and I'm hoping to end that on a high note

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Speaker 1: before we get onto the news. One last reminder, ELK

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Speaker 1: camp at the capitol here in the good old state

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Speaker 1: of Montana, Helena, Montana, r s v P at www

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Speaker 1: dot Montana. ELK dot org. Where are your camo? Show

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Speaker 1: up to the big old canvas wall Tanton Fire on

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Speaker 1: the steps of the state Capitol here in Helena, Montana,

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Speaker 1: join hunters from all across the state for our very

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Speaker 1: own Montana Citizens ELK Management Coalition ELK Camp. It's just

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Speaker 1: a big show of support for each other. As the

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Speaker 1: state legislature goes in session, it's very important not just

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Speaker 1: lawmakers the faces of their constituents. Remind them that you

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Speaker 1: it comes to the critters that we want to have

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Speaker 1: arounds we can chase and eat Tomorrow. Moving on to

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Speaker 1: the legislative desk, we're gonna be covering lots of bills

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Speaker 1: and policies over the next few weeks. If you're listening

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Speaker 1: and the wheel and the other, good news for you.

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Speaker 1: Will post everything we cover, along with links to get

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Speaker 1: First up, in Oregon, the legislature is considering a bill

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Speaker 1: that would ban hunting for bobcat or links with the

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Speaker 1: use of hounds violators would be subject to a maximum

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Speaker 1: three and sixty four days imprisonment, a six thousand, two

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Speaker 1: fifty fine or both, and a hunting licensed suspension. Bryant Ashton,

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Speaker 1: who sent me an email about this bill, says, hound

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Speaker 1: hunters in the state are quote really nervous about this one.

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Speaker 1: Cougar hunting with dogs has been illegal since and I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about attractive older women. This bill would be

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Speaker 1: another step in that bad direction. If you'd like to

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Speaker 1: get involved. The bill number is HB two and it's

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Speaker 1: been referred to the House Committee on Agriculture, Land Use,

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Speaker 1: Natural Resources, and Water over In v A, Virginia, the

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Speaker 1: Department of Wildlife Resources asking the public to comment on

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Speaker 1: its new ten year bear management plan. The plan calls

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Speaker 1: for stabilizing the bear population in the vast majority of

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Speaker 1: the state while slightly decreasing the population in parts of

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Speaker 1: six counties in southwest Virginia. The Virginia Department of Wildlife

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Speaker 1: Forest Yates for sending that one. In Also in Virginia,

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Speaker 1: Delegate Mary E. March is proposing a continuous open season

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Speaker 1: on white tailed deer. You heard that right. The bill

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Speaker 1: would allow the public to shoot white tailed deer three

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Speaker 1: sixty five days of the year with rifles, bows, or

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Speaker 1: Jason Williams, the listener who brought this to my attention,

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Speaker 1: pointed out that Delegate marches parents hit a deer with

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Speaker 1: Delegate March says she is quote considering a bill that

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Speaker 1: would extend the deer hunting season. Most of the commenters

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Speaker 1: call Porado. The legislature is considering a bill that would

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Speaker 1: create a non toxic bullet replacement program. The bill would

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Speaker 1: for non lead alternatives like copper. It would also direct

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Speaker 1: the Division of Parks and Wildlife to educate the public

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Speaker 1: program to hunters, among other conditions. The bill would require

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Speaker 1: hunters to have purchased their lead ammunition before the effective

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Speaker 1: date of the bill if they want to participate. The

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Speaker 1: and it's been assigned to the House Agriculture, Water and

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Speaker 1: considering a bill that would require a background check to

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Speaker 1: it hasn't been assigned to a committee. They may as

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Speaker 1: well label this one the boost Ammunition Sales in aaboring

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Speaker 1: States Bill HB one one. And Indiana, the legislature has

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Speaker 1: proposed a bill that would create four free hunting days

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Speaker 1: for critically disabled veterans, which would overlap with the current

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Speaker 1: free hunting days for youths. The bill defines critically disabled

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Speaker 1: as a veteran who has lost limbs, hands, or feet,

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Speaker 1: referred to the Committee on Natural Resources. The Missouri state

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Speaker 1: legislature will consider a bill making it easier for landowners

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Speaker 1: to receive landowner hunting permits. Current law requires resident and

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Speaker 1: application to receive a free or reduced cost turkey or

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Speaker 1: deer hunting permit. To qualify, resident landowners must own at

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Speaker 1: both residents and non residents. The bill was introduced by

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Speaker 1: a committee. In Mississippi, House Bill three one two would

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Speaker 1: allow any Native American resident to receive a free hunting

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Speaker 1: and was introduced by Representative Caroline Crawford. In Montana, the

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Speaker 1: legislature is considering a bill that would codify in statute

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Speaker 1: landowner preference tags for mule, deer, and antelope. Under the

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Speaker 1: of landowners applying exceeded fifteen percent of all tags. The

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Speaker 1: and Parks, as well as the Montana Farm Bureau Federation,

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Speaker 1: the Montana Outfitters and Guides Association. They argue that landowner

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Speaker 1: preference tags for elk already exist under state statute, but

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Speaker 1: game REGs. This bill would bring all landowner reference programs

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Speaker 1: under state law. Opponents, which include the Montana Sportsman's Alliance,

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Speaker 1: with the Montana Sportsman's Alliance. It makes no sense to

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Speaker 1: have seen steep antalope population declines as well as a

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Speaker 1: legislature is considering a bill that would legalize the use

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