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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet. I'm welcome to Season one, eighteen, Episode

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Speaker 1: two of jere Daily eight geist of production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is the podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness and say, officially, off

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Speaker 1: the top, fuck the Koch Brothers, fuck Fox News him,

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Speaker 1: fuck Mike Bloomberg. It's Tuesday, January. My name is Jack

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Speaker 1: O'Brien a K. You clowning Jacko B? Yes, so sweaty

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Speaker 1: you clowning Jacko B? Yoga baby? You clowning Jacko B? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: boot cut cheek. Who's clowning Jacko B? Mostly Jacko B.

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Speaker 1: That's courtesy of Trike Gang and I'm drilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles. It

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Speaker 1: all seem to go. You gotta ship up away from

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Speaker 1: your home. Miles got his wife's to shoot in a

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Speaker 1: parking lot. Meme, donut greasy. I'm a gay man. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we've we've all been there. I actually have taken a

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Speaker 1: ship in a parking line, not like outside of a car.

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Speaker 1: I was four years old, I would so you were

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Speaker 1: wearing diapers? No, I was wearing diapers at four. Okay

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Speaker 1: did my mom tell you that did not wear diaper.

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Speaker 1: Saw was four, So you just shipped in a park.

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Speaker 1: I just had to go to the bathroom real bad.

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Speaker 1: And my mom was like, you'll hear goal over the

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Speaker 1: shopping back real quick. Okay, over a shopping back, over

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Speaker 1: a shop just yeah, I guess took care of you.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be as transparent as possible as

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Speaker 1: an audience. You know what I mean. Well, we appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: When when does one stuff wearing diapers? Uh? Like, what's

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Speaker 1: the accepted with girls? It's usually a little bit earlier,

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Speaker 1: probably two girls better. Yeah, they are figured things. They

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Speaker 1: they're just generally smart. Uh and then boys usually late

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Speaker 1: to earlier, three late too early twenties. Uh. Well, we

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: the hilarious and talented Mr Eric Lampere. Oh Eric, Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't have a song. I think you

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Speaker 1: do have a song right there. I'm slowly going to

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Speaker 1: build you at the beginnings, genuinely good like an opera.

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Speaker 1: Eventually some record producers out there just like you got something, kid,

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Speaker 1: keep keep building on that. It's my seventh time here.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, I'm starting to really Oh yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: helping myself to a bagel like family does he when

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Speaker 1: you hear your family, you have invited me to have

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Speaker 1: some of those bagels. But it's fun. I just going

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Speaker 1: please do. Yeah, that's what is here for. It's quite nice. Well,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better

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Speaker 1: in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a

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Speaker 1: few of the things we're talking about. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: some of the Democratic primary candidate, celebrity crushes. New York

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Speaker 1: Times just doing some real just who would you fuck?

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Speaker 1: Tom Steyer. We're gonna talk about Bolton's leaked manuscript, just

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Speaker 1: generally what the dynamic for impeachment is now I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about impeaching Creed. We're gonna talk about Paula White, the

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Speaker 1: televangelist who is Trump's right hand uh spiritual advisor, who

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Speaker 1: I think, at the end of last week begged God

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Speaker 1: to terminate satanic pregnancies, which is why she's in the news.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna and she's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I

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Speaker 1: think you guys got me all mis mixed up here.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I meant I'm mag gotta go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are of course going to talk about the tragic

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Speaker 1: the weekend. All of that and plenty more. But first, Eric,

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Speaker 1: we like task our guess what is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, if

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Speaker 1: I'm honest, I googled some STD clinics in my local area.

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Speaker 1: I got message this morning from a lady you should

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Speaker 1: there's always important, you know, your health positive text, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get your health checked, and you know, shout out to

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Speaker 1: responsible partners to you know what I mean. I think, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't know what gonarrhe is like? For example? Yeah, like Miles,

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Speaker 1: we can. We've pulled the quality community and is that

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Speaker 1: Does the FBI I know that. I feel like that

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Speaker 1: might crack some cases? Wide open, Jack the ripper was

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Speaker 1: According to Live Science, it says even forensic investigators can

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Speaker 1: have trouble discerning between human and man. Take a second

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Speaker 1: look in open cases. How is this not a movie?

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Speaker 1: I'm serious? Yeah? Yeah, like for real, this twist Burglars.

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Speaker 1: But Koala or a guy Koala? Yeah? Uh, that's that's

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Speaker 1: has a corresponding quala, that's the movie Find Finding Your Koala.

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Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? So I can

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Speaker 1: But I was like, what is what? What is overrated

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Speaker 1: find something. I like that philosophical answer. Yeah, it's we

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Speaker 1: I think we need positive vibes today, so we do

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Speaker 1: need positive A lot of people hurt, you know, like

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated?

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Speaker 1: and it comes so like you know that, you know,

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Speaker 1: you bring one with you? You actually have? Ye? See

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Speaker 1: this shows you how a little tea I drink from. Oh,

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Speaker 1: we have that here, so that this one is lift

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Speaker 1: the three million dollars in security assistance Ukraine until the

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Speaker 1: officials there helped get these investigations, uh into the Biden's

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Speaker 1: going we'll stop. So that's the whole thing, right, that's

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Speaker 1: the whole scheme. National Security advisor at the time has

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Speaker 1: confirmed that's what I was told. I was told by

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Speaker 1: the President to withhold the aid until we get investigations.

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Speaker 1: Because the entire impeachment hinges or not hinges on the

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Speaker 1: articles of impeachment center around the president using his office

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Speaker 1: and the influence and power of his office as president,

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Speaker 1: to coerced, to lean on, to blackmail, whatever extort, whatever

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Speaker 1: word you want to use the Ukrainian government to give

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Speaker 1: him an optics win, not even an actual investigation. He

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Speaker 1: just wanted the Ukrainians to announce that there would be

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Speaker 1: an investigation to the bidens because Joe Biden at the

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Speaker 1: time and even now looks like one of the front

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Speaker 1: runners to face him uh in this next election. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but who did Bolton hear this from? Because that's been

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Speaker 1: the issue all telephone game. You know, people talk to Giuliani,

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Speaker 1: who tells them the stuff people talk to Uh. I

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Speaker 1: know heard it straight from the President's mouth, the president.

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Speaker 1: But it was the president's mouth, So there's a chain

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Speaker 1: that goes from his brain down to his mouth, the

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Speaker 1: president's vocal court. Actually, yes, did he confirm it him

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Speaker 1: writing I don't know that's the can can't be confirmed yet.

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Speaker 1: But this is just how you know. Again, for most

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Speaker 1: people who saw all the testimony that happened in the House,

446
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: it was pretty clear that this was happening. This isn't

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Speaker 1: against the character of the president to abuse his power

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Speaker 1: to do something for his own game. What I do,

449
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Speaker 1: like though, is okay, So again, I don't approve of

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Speaker 1: the things that he's done because it seems like it

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Speaker 1: comes from a place of pain and anger and fear.

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Speaker 1: Being said, personally, I'm not president, but you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: I like to just give and love and you know,

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Speaker 1: and do favors and stuff. But something, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: also got my own life to live, right, And sometimes

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Speaker 1: I do think, like, look, if you want me to

457
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Speaker 1: do this for you, what's in it for me? Yeah? Right?

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Speaker 1: And there is an element of like, do you want

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Speaker 1: billions of dollars? Well, can you just do me a

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Speaker 1: favor and check up on this guy because there's almost

461
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Speaker 1: like I almost kind of feel sorry for him because

462
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Speaker 1: I think that Trump is just an idiot. You can

463
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Speaker 1: realize he made a mistake, yes, and that mistake I

464
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Speaker 1: actually can go like Oh yeah, we'll see why that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. You want billions of dollars. When you have

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Speaker 1: somebody who violates all the norms, you start to realize

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Speaker 1: how important and also unnatural some of those norms are.

468
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Speaker 1: Like the thing that like we're asking them to do

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Speaker 1: is like a bunch of fucking dorks. Like he's like,

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Speaker 1: what are these bunch of dorks? Like I'm not allowed

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Speaker 1: to ask for like some favors and President, this is

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Speaker 1: how it works. It's like, No, there's like a bunch

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Speaker 1: of really high minded ideals that are enforced by a

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Speaker 1: bunch of like really nerdy, really detail oriented bureaucrats that

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Speaker 1: like that is the line between authoritarianism and this like

476
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Speaker 1: amazingly successful experiment and government that's been going on for

477
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Speaker 1: uh and now we're watching the experiment. Yeah, And he's

478
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: like just seems wild to him that anybody would criticize

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Speaker 1: him for doing that. He also, according to this manuscript too,

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Speaker 1: there's mentioned that the the Attorney General, America's top cop,

481
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Speaker 1: William Barr, also knew about it, because you overheard Trump

482
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Speaker 1: basically saying he's like, yeah, I'll let Juliani and Attorney

483
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Speaker 1: General Bar no, like in a call to other conspirators.

484
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: So again, this, like everyone's been saying since this impeachment

485
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Speaker 1: trial started in the Senate, we need to have witnesses

486
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Speaker 1: testify because these are the kinds of facts that are

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Speaker 1: material to you know, like determining whether or not this

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Speaker 1: president had committed these offenses. And it's pretty clear he did.

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Speaker 1: But now the position for Republicans is starting to get

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Speaker 1: a little shaky because before this you're like, it's fine,

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Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. Now you have someone that's on

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Speaker 1: their team saying, no, yeah he said that, I'm there.

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Speaker 1: I have a book coming out. Yeah, And here's a

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Speaker 1: book coming out that says this. So it's not like yeah,

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Speaker 1: we heard this, or like he gave this, he might

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Speaker 1: have said this in an interview. It's this is going

497
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: to come out after your vote. You're gonna look stupid

498
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Speaker 1: if you vote, and then like the thing comes out

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Speaker 1: and make you know, completely contradicts all of the conclusions

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Speaker 1: you drew. It really feels like at this point, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're not trying to figure out what happened, Like everybody

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Speaker 1: knows what happened. It's just like we're watching a staring

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Speaker 1: contest where the Republicans see if they can keep a

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00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: straight face through the vote, and like, each piece of

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Speaker 1: evidence that comes out, it's like, well, that's gonna make

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Speaker 1: it kind of like they're gonna break certainly, Um, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's that's the thing where we're up against.

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Speaker 1: It's like, are they going to as every day as

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Speaker 1: more things come out? You know, leve Parness just dropped

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Speaker 1: audio clips of him, of the President talking about all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. I'll play a clip right now of leve

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Speaker 1: Parness basically explaining to the President like how much Ukraine

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Speaker 1: relies on US AID to be able to defend themselves

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Speaker 1: from Russia. And he's giving him a lay of the

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Speaker 1: land and we're hearing this out loud happening. Obviously, if

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Speaker 1: they go on their own, Russia will well won't let

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Speaker 1: them do it because they'll cut off a lot of

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Speaker 1: their revenue. However, they last in the fight with the

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Speaker 1: Russia very long without us? Not very long without m hmm.

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Speaker 1: How long do they last with Russia without us? Not

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Speaker 1: very Who asked that question? That was Trump? That was Trump,

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Speaker 1: damn and being like, yeah, okay, so how strong they

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Speaker 1: really need us? Yeah? Oh damn? Thirty seconds? Okay? I

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Speaker 1: might be able to get some couple of things out

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Speaker 1: of this, and that's what we're seeing all that sort

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Speaker 1: of logic like play out, you know, with audio with

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Speaker 1: these things. And I granted sure you could say you

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00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: could question the legitimacy of these recordings whatever, but based

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Speaker 1: on everything we've heard from lifetime, uh, State Department workers

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00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: and things like that, this this is what's been happening,

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Speaker 1: and it's very clear. So the defense seems to be

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00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: because we got a little preview, like an hour and

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00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: a half of the defense over the weekend and then

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00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: a full day yesterday, and the defense just exclusively seems

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00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: to be like, man, y'all are a bunch of haters. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you need to just leave the president alone. Because the

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00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: their overall argument is this is an attempt by Democrats

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00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: to tear up the votes, which, uh, that's what impeachment

539
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: like that they so it's a it's a critique of

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00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: the idea of impeachment, yeah, exactly. And then their other

541
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: argument is like the Democrats keep trying to get him

542
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: catch him when he does illegal stuff, which is an

543
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: odd argument, right, And they've also held back on impeaching,

544
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: like over the course of years of him doing illegal stuff.

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00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: But again, those are those are the main arguments, and

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00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: they're they're not really legal arguments, right, they're more no,

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00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: they're just like schoolyard arguments. Everyone like, you know, when

548
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: they submitted their document prior to the trial starting, most

549
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: legal experts laughed, there isn't a sensible legal argument to

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Speaker 1: any of this, aside from being like it really was

551
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: almost could be distilled to not acause they like, what

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00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: do you mean by that? Not like he did that?

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00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: Not impeachable because you love him? Yeah, I also like that,

554
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean because it's it's such a it is. But

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00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: but unfortunately the stakes are so goddamn high that when

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Speaker 1: you see someone enter into this space where we're trying

557
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: to trying to work something up, but everything is so

558
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: hyperpartisan that no one can look at this process as

559
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: being like a real trial that yeah, they can enter

560
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: with these arguments shield this president and then continue to

561
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: who knows what, you know. But it's like it's like

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00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: the most high version of Shaggy as it wasn't me

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00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: it is, which I yeah, exactly, and then got me

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Speaker 1: on camera it wasn't me. Yeah, oh wow, okay pictures

565
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: this who were both but naked banging on the bedroom floor, bathroom,

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Speaker 1: bathroom floor, bathroom floor. Uh, there's no cameras in there. Yeah,

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00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: let's talk about let's talk about Uh, Paula White, who

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00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: we We've had a profile of her from our writer

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00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: Ja McNab on the Dock for a little while, but

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00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: she recently came to national attention because she was seen

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Speaker 1: praying that all Satanic pregnancies be spontaneously miscarried. That's what

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Speaker 1: she says. She says, in the name of Jesus, we

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Speaker 1: command all Satanic pregnancies to miscarry. Right now. We declare

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Speaker 1: that anything that's been conceived in Satanic wombs that it

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Speaker 1: will miscarry. It will not be able to carry forth

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Speaker 1: any plan of destruction, any plan of harm. What's the

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Speaker 1: Satanic pregnancy? I have no idea because most there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of like clergy who are like, this is

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Speaker 1: the most horrible thing, because if you know, most priests

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Speaker 1: would be like, every child is a is God's creation.

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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as Satanic pregnancy. Does not exist

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Speaker 1: unless you were hooking up with Satan somewhere, right. I

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00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: think that's the only case you could say a pregnancy

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Speaker 1: with Satanic if you have sex with Satan, and he

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00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: and he or she got your pregnant. But this worldview,

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00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: and we'll see in a little bit like that, there

587
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: is an entire worldview where it's fear based and there

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00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: is good and evil, and evil is out there constantly, uh,

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00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: you know, scheming about ways to get the good guys

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Speaker 1: because they are the bad guys. And people are always like,

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Speaker 1: oh God, oh he's so good. You know. God is

592
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: probably so bored right just being good all the time.

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Speaker 1: He needs a pal Satan just mess it up. Like

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Speaker 1: I know that if I was God like you would

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Speaker 1: be very boring on my own. I'd follow Satan on Instagram.

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00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: We'll look at his stories. But alright, alright, back to

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00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: my godship. But I'm gonna look at it real quick. Yeah,

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00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, like um so uh, she so his She

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00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: is his primary spiritual advisor. She's also a televangelist. She's

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00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: known Trump for over fifteen years. Was that his inauguration Uh,

601
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Speaker 1: And he actually hired her a couple of months ago

602
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: as an advisor for his Faith and Opportunity Initiative, which

603
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: is basically a program designed to help service providers who

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Speaker 1: don't want to assist people for religious reasons. If your

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Speaker 1: faith has brought you to a place where you don't

606
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Speaker 1: want to give another person an opportunity to help them,

607
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: then we're here to help. Yeah, because that's such a

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Speaker 1: I guess that's the new thing is being like, no,

609
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Speaker 1: I can be discriminatory because of my faith, right, not

610
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: allowing me to be discriminatory is actually discrimination against Yeah, yes,

611
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: is something else. But she is controversial even among Christians

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00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: because she believes in the Prosperity Gospel, which teaches that

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Speaker 1: God will bless you with riches as long as you

614
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Speaker 1: first put a little down payment, give a little money,

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Speaker 1: uh to I don't know, how about Paula White maybe yea, yeah. Yeah.

616
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: It's basically like, hey man, look God, God loves you. Look,

617
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: let's get this on the table. God loves you, okay,

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Speaker 1: and he wants you to be blessed. He wants you

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Speaker 1: to have that car, that money, that job. All you

620
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: gotta do is have faith in him and to prove

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Speaker 1: it and give me some a portion of your first

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Speaker 1: month's salary, right, Like it's really ship like that. He's

623
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Speaker 1: like something, he's like your agent. Yeah yeah, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's funny these people like help me grease the gears

625
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: with God, grease the wheels with God, a little this

626
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: to allow let the blessings come in to you. Uh.

627
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Speaker 1: And this whole thing, it's it's wild because it's so

628
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Speaker 1: predatory and it really the people who make ten tho

629
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Speaker 1: dollars or less per year are twice as likely to

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Speaker 1: adhere to the prosperity Gospel then people who make thirty

631
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Speaker 1: five like it. It It prays on a very specific,

632
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: desperate kind of person of being like fuck it. Like

633
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: maybe my last roll of the dice is to give

634
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: my money to this person on TV who's saying, like,

635
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: if you give me the money, I can help God

636
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: turn that you know, a boomerang of cash for you

637
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 1: that will come right back or something. It's it's really

638
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: really uh Like. One of her suggestions was explicitly that

639
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: her followers should send her quote a portion of their

640
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: first month's salary. Paula is challenging you to put first

641
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: things first. She's also just complete aside, she's married to

642
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: the keyboard player from Journey. Uh. But don't stop believing

643
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: you uh. Instead of fake news, she called for a

644
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: quote every demonic network who has criticized President Trump to

645
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: be torn down in the name of Jesus. So again

646
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: that kind of does yeah, in the name of Jesus

647
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: do violence on to people who don't support Donald Trump

648
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: or who you know, basically it's a US versus them world,

649
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: and she is praying for the deaths of anybody who's

650
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: on the other side. Yeah, well it's but you know

651
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: that whole thing, like if you have the thing when

652
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: you have like these forces of evil so well defined

653
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: like in your religious theology or how you're looking at

654
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: the world, that allows you to hate something, you know

655
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: what I mean, That allows you to be like, you know,

656
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: I love every like, but the demons I I don't.

657
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: I don't like Satan, and this is a bad thing

658
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: I have to press up against. And I think being

659
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: able to create those kinds that kind of dynamic allows

660
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: you to put the focus or whatever is quote unquote

661
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: demonic on anything because they're always being like, well, what's demonic?

662
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: Because if there's something is demonic or labels demonic, then

663
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 1: I can be opposed to that or I can push

664
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: back or hate that. Yeah it is and that is

665
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: And now that is a challenge that I think we

666
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: also face, right, what is bad and what is good. Um,

667
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: that is a challenge, yeah, for sure, and I think, yeah,

668
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: it's and also if you don't have something, this is

669
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: the weird thing. Well again, this is where I'm at,

670
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: where life is technically, I think, but my personal life

671
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: not you know, there's there's ship going on out there,

672
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: but my personal life seems to be pretty good. And yeah,

673
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: there is a sort of fire in me. It's still

674
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: looking for a problem. Yeah, that's looking for something to

675
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: to fight against. Yeah, and it's it's maybe very human

676
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: want to want drama. Some you need conflicts. Sometimes it helps,

677
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: it helps create sides, it helps create those kinds of

678
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 1: labels we need. And then sometimes it can be sometimes

679
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: we are so used to conflict that to be in

680
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: a state of peace feels weird because you're like, I'm

681
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: not used to this, using the chaos is about to

682
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: show up. I mean, our nervous system was designed when

683
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: we were still in the food chain, right, like so

684
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: being having to like make life or death decisions every day,

685
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: that's when our nervous system was designed. So once we

686
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 1: made it out of the food chain and stopped having

687
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: those uh, you know, threats every day, it's there's still

688
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: like some vestigial like stress built in there, like we

689
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: we don't necessarily feel natural, don't feel human. We are fearing,

690
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: fearing for our lives because like that whole mechanism to

691
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: keep us safe from predators or whatever when we were

692
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: in the food chain is still in us and now

693
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: in our new world, it's like, well, the tools are

694
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: still there. So now I'm just going to use a

695
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: weird thing someone said to me, and I'll put it

696
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: through this lens. I do I need to fear this?

697
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: And a lot of the yeah, I mean, the powers

698
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: that be have figured out what, like how that apparatus,

699
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: like the perceiving apparatus like works, and I've figured out

700
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: how to hack it using commercials and advertising and so

701
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: that though there was a way to hack it so

702
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: that you can so yeah, by showing you, by showing

703
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: you visual evidence of things they want you to fear

704
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: instead of you know, the long term, I'm saying that,

705
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: so you could do the upposite thing, right, yeah, yeah,

706
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: you can self have well yeah, then you can also

707
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: say hi, thank you outdated safety mechanism from my caveman brain.

708
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: I acknowledge that you're looking at the problem like this

709
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: because you that's how it's meant, that's how it was wired.

710
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: But sometimes I think the hard part that people have

711
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: is like recognizing when your fear on switch is just

712
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: stuck on on and that you're not actually using it

713
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: in the way it needs to be, Like, is is

714
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: this really a threat to me? Why am I looking

715
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: at this? Why is that activating the same emotional space

716
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: as something that would be a threat or something to

717
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: my existence? And I think that's like the the bit

718
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: where you're like, I think the on button stuck. Let

719
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: me just kind of right right right, listen it there

720
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: we go, And that's just a tool. It's not me.

721
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: It's just a tool with some good advice guys. But

722
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: on the sort of philosophical question we're talking about earlier

723
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: on like whether we know anything, uh, Paula has some

724
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: interesting things to say about she knows for a fact,

725
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: certain things about Jesus. So on the subject of immigration,

726
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: that's an argument that you know, people have been like,

727
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: how does it fit in with your Christian values that

728
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: the president is leaning on putting kids in cages? Uh?

729
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: And on the subject of immigration, Paul paul has a

730
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: good answer. She claimed that while Jesus was a refugee.

731
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: He didn't break any immigration laws, and if he did,

732
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: he would not have been air Messiah boom. So wow,

733
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: that's something she knows when you really look that whole

734
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: quick that whole quote. Well, Jesus was a refugee. Yes,

735
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: he did live in Egypt for three and a half years,

736
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: but it was not illegal. Right. If he had broken

737
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: the law, then he would have been sinful and he

738
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: would not have been arm Sia. Right, that's something that

739
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: she can speak to for a fact. And all of

740
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: that's why he was so famously all about whatever the

741
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: Romans said was the law and whatever. You know, he

742
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: was just about it. I feel sorry for Jesus. He's

743
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: getting such a hard time misunderstood. Yeah. She also casually

744
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: demands a hundred thousand dollars while warning that quote, your

745
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: dream will die if you don't empty your pocket. This

746
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: is I mean. But it's it's great though that she

747
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: works with Trump, because he did. He did the exact

748
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 1: same thing with Trump University. It's like, let me sell

749
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: you a dream because you are desperate, and I'm just

750
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: gonna fucking rob you blind. Uh gotta love it all right,

751
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back,

752
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: and we're back, and uh yeah, we have to talk

753
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: about the death of Kobe Bryant, one of the most

754
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: tragic deaths of a public figure. And I feel like

755
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: our lifetime maybe uh you know, I feel like the

756
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: sports world has had those people who you know, you

757
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: didn't expect to lose, uh Die Young, like Kirk Kobain

758
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: and Prince But I don't know. With with Kobe, it

759
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: seems like people are incredibly shocked and you know a

760
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: lot of people are hurting based on this. Yeah, it's um,

761
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't I've I have not really processed what has happened.

762
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: I am a lifelong Laker fan. Uh I was a

763
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: I did. I didn't personally was not a fan of

764
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: Kobe when he played. I was very frustrated with him

765
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: very early in his career because he was like, I'm

766
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: gonna do everything on my own, sometimes to the detriment

767
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: of the team. But he was an amazing competitor and

768
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: you can't take a way like the things he's done

769
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: in basketball, and I well, I've seen a lot of

770
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: people really choose to focus on the rape allegations that

771
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: uh that had come out, and I think two thousand

772
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: three sort of like defining or making I've seen people

773
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: celebrate his death, which I'm not sure why you would

774
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: do that, because I'm while, yes, that can be true,

775
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: and that can be reprehensible and unforgivable or however you

776
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: want to choose to look at that. But to me,

777
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: more than even it being Kobe Bryant, I think just

778
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: the idea of him and his daughter and these other

779
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: families that were on board on these helicopters, everyone's lives

780
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: are just shattered instantly many people that it's a very

781
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: uh I'm I'm just very heartbroken for all of those

782
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: families because I cannot imagine, you know, from the Alta

783
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: Belly family there there was another coach on there that

784
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: was a father, a mother and their child and they

785
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: have other children too. That's completely like you can't you

786
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: can't imagine. Yeah, it's it's really tough, and you know

787
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: it's he was. He inspired many people, and I think

788
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: when you look at even in Japan right just to

789
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: sort of see his influence, are people in Japan who

790
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 1: are like mourning his loss because a he was named

791
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: after the city of Kobe, like because of Kobe Beef.

792
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: Basically his father about a huge love for it. Yeah,

793
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: and even like in the aftermath of this tsunami in

794
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, like he really used his presence to

795
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 1: draw attention to the humanitarian efforts. And it's I think

796
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: things like this are always difficult to deal with because

797
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: when you have any kind of complicated legacy, people may

798
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: only choot way choose to put on one like focus

799
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: on one thing. You see some people just looking at

800
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: all the bad that he's done, or these the what

801
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: what happened in Colorado. Some people are completely ignoring all

802
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: of that and choose to focus on that. I think

803
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: that's in your rights, depending on how you observe who

804
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: this person is. I can only speak for myself personally

805
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: to know I can't defend any of those actions, but

806
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: to say, as a human being who lived in Los

807
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: Angeles who his like championships created moments of connection for

808
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: me and my father and my family and many other

809
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: like young black kids, brown kids seeing somebody say hi,

810
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: I went from high school and I changed the life

811
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: like i'm and I did all of this on my own. Um,

812
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: it's it's lots of process. I don't even know. I

813
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: don't even know what I'm saying out loud. I just

814
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: I feel so many different things, and it's it's definitely

815
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: challenging when you like, I don't know anything about Kobe

816
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: because I just didn't grow up around, right, But you know, death,

817
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: we all come across it, and I guess it's it

818
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: is challenging when certainly people just judge one person on

819
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: a on a tiny segment of their life, which is like,

820
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 1: how can you do that? You know, we are all

821
00:49:55,640 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: however many years worth of experience that you become the

822
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: person that we become. And uh, I do find it

823
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: odd when people just I'm angry at this thing, and

824
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: it's like, there's a whole life that you should dissect

825
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: before you can truly make a educated adjudication assessment. Yeah,

826
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: on someone's life, it's a I mean there were, right,

827
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: there were a couple really like just horrifying, intentionally shocking

828
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: reactions that did not take into account that you know,

829
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: a third of a family and you know, a lot

830
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people died yesterday, way too many people

831
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: died in a very tragic, horrible way. But there were

832
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: also there's just an outpouring of uh, you know, people

833
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: talking about what he meant to their lives. Um, you know,

834
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: I think I got I got a sense that you know,

835
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: he really stood out as somebody who like kind of

836
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: was a intellectual and philis sophical like figure two people

837
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: like even though he was a basketball player, like he

838
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: was somebody who spoke multiple languages. He was somebody who

839
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: talked about basketball and competition, like from a philosophical perspective,

840
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: and like studied and read and you know, like one

841
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: of the first things you heard about him was that

842
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: he like had some crazy high score on his S

843
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Speaker 1: A T and like could have gone anywhere he wanted,

844
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: but he was just like, no, I'm ready for the league.

845
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: Competitive yeah, and just competitive and wanted to play in

846
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: the NBA. So like, I think there's like something, uh,

847
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: there's an extra dimension. They're just objectively like as a

848
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: national figure. But I will say, as somebody who's transplant

849
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: to l A, I've never seen a city ride as

850
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: hard for someone as l A rides for Kobe, Like,

851
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: his career had an afterlife onnlike anything I've seen. Like

852
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 1: even Jordans fans in Chicago weren't like refusing to root

853
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: for new members of the after Jordan retired. When one

854
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: of the greatest players joins the team. Yeah, I mean

855
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: there's just something obstinate and hardheaded about l A's love

856
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: for Kobe. Um that is, you know, admirable and you know,

857
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: unlike anything I've ever seen in a fandom. Uh, it's

858
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 1: almost like a perfect storm for uh, you know, creating

859
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: just a you know, sathood for a for a modern athlete,

860
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: the way like the way he's going to be revered,

861
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: uh going forward. I don't think you can pick an athlete,

862
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: active or retired whose death would mean more to uh

863
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: a city. I mean you could just see how that

864
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, all the games that were played on Sunday,

865
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: the effect it had on every person playing. Some some

866
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: some teams are like nobody's coming in the locker room

867
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: before after, Like other people were just sobbing outwardly, like

868
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: on the bench, coaches were like it was it's it

869
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: shows you just sort of what his places I mean,

870
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,280
Speaker 1: and as one of the greatest players and uh, I honestly,

871
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: aside from even from being a Laker fan, there's the

872
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: manner in which it happened is so tragic. And he

873
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: was on the helicopter with his daughter who was showing

874
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 1: tremendous promise as an athlete as you know, like he

875
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: was she was. They were always together at games. You

876
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: could see their relationship was very strong. And I'm pure,

877
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: most of me is looking at this purely from a

878
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: through a human lens, not even as a fan or whatever.

879
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, my god, this, I don't know. It's so

880
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 1: fucking it's so tragic. I still can't really articulate exactly

881
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: how I feel if I if I've learned anything recently

882
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: that maybe I'll I can share is that separation is

883
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: an illusion, which is a lot too rap one's head around.

884
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: But for example, I'm I'm far away from my entire family.

885
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, since I was fifteen that I

886
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: actually went through the grieving stages of losing my parents,

887
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: even though they're still alive, just from the physical distance,

888
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: the physical distance, they literally were gone. And so I

889
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: my body actually went through grief. And what's interesting now is,

890
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm really far away from all the

891
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: friends and family that I've got, you know, the decade

892
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: long relationships, and and I recently realized that the ones

893
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: that I truly love and know are actually I know

894
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: it sounds like, you know, like fantasy type talk, but

895
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: they are well and truly alive in my head. If

896
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: I were to ask my my best friend a question,

897
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: I almost know how he would respond or how she

898
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: would respond, and so I have them in my head.

899
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: And it's like like David Bowie, like when he died,

900
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: it was it was hard. I was like, man, I

901
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: really loved his music, loved it so much. You know,

902
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: his music is incredible. I know it's easier said than done.

903
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: Death is challenging forshold, but it's, uh, it's interesting how

904
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's a revival in a way, maybe

905
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: there's a you know, like yeh, yeah, he's inspired so

906
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: many that now actually there's loads of tiny cod but

907
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: he's everywhere. One of my favorite afterlives in fiction is

908
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: the Cocoa Afterlife, where like you're like your memory is

909
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: sort of how you live on in in the afterlife

910
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: and like you basically still exist as long as people

911
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: remember you. And yeah, I think that's there's something valuable

912
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: about that and like kind of profound about that. Uh yeah,

913
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I hope all of these families involved

914
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: are able to grieve. I mean, I keep Jesus, you

915
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: can't imagine, like I mean, I'm not a parent, but

916
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: I know how every parent speaks about losing a child,

917
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: and I know how my own parents would even talk

918
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: about losing a child and having you know, talking to friends. Uh,

919
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: you know parents who have lost their children. It's the

920
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: worst thing that can happen. And some of these, you know,

921
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: some like nearly entire families have been erased, and I

922
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: can I just hope that that process can be warned

923
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: where they can find peace, because that's maybe my biggest thing.

924
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, the the idea of bringing life in

925
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: and then yeah, like them going before me. Yeah, yeah,

926
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: I was at a four year old birthday party when

927
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: I when like everybody basically at the same time learned

928
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: the news and like people are crying and ship. But

929
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: I think that is uh something uh two, like he

930
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,240
Speaker 1: had been over over the last year had been really

931
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: like coming out as a as a parent like that

932
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: that was sort of how he was primarily presenting himself

933
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: as in the public as like, you know, a father

934
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,839
Speaker 1: to this amazing young woman who was preparing to be

935
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: basically a superstar athlete and you know, just being uh

936
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: just like seeing them interact on the sidelines and stuff.

937
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: I also think that that's you know what when you

938
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: talk about the impact that uh, somebody has after they're

939
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: gone and people's memories and sort of the cultural consciousness, Like,

940
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a very valuable one to be a

941
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, a really great father. And it just shows

942
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: you these kinds of like paras social relationships we create

943
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: with people we don't even know. I mean, I think

944
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: that shows you too, Like you can go outside, I'm

945
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: telling you most people have some kind of purple and

946
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: gold on. There's like it's I saw it everywhere where

947
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood this morning on Hollywood. I saw people.

948
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: But it's you know, these celebrities means so many can

949
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,959
Speaker 1: mean so many different things to people in different ways. Um,

950
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: and you know the obviously his legacy is complicated. But

951
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: I think for at the moment, the only the only

952
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: feeling that I really have is just looking at this

953
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: tragedy as a whole and being like just really sick

954
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: to my stomach because it's just so fucked up. Yeah,

955
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: I guess when when it's also how someone goes right, YEA.

956
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: So helicopter crush just seems so like what a way,

957
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: what a horrible, horrible, horrible way to go, yeah, yeah,

958
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: not that there's any like I guess it's like, yeah,

959
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: I guess if you die, you know, of old age,

960
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: the thing everything. If some people would say I just

961
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: want to be old and go in my sleep from

962
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: old age. Sure, But then yeah, like these when it's

963
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: not expected, it's it, you know, because I think we

964
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: we all live with this existential fear of our own mortality,

965
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: and then you have something like this come up so vividly, Um,

966
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: it activates a lot of those things. That's why I'm like,

967
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm processing exactly. I don't know

968
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: if I'm processing my own mortality and how how we

969
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: all just hang by a thread and how quickly things

970
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: can change in an instant. Is it that the loss

971
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: of a sports figure who has created a lot of

972
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: great memories between my friends and my family and just

973
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: the entire communities. Is it the Is it me responding

974
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: to seeing images of other athletes being so distraught over

975
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: the loss of a friend or mentor idol. I don't,

976
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I think that's yeah. But when

977
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: you see it all, uh, it's it's hard to put

978
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: a finger on it. And you know, some people were

979
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: like asking me like, well what about this with that?

980
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't sure I can All these things

981
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: can be true. You know, he can be Uh, he

982
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: could be a sexual predator. He can be one of

983
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: the greatest basketball players of all time. He could be

984
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: a father who tragically died with his daughter in a

985
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: helicopter crash along with these other families and the pilot.

986
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: And it's just, my god, it's just I don't know. Eric,

987
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure having you, but the sad ending

988
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: to the episode, Uh, where where can people Find you?

989
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 1: And follow you? Instagram? Will probably be a good shout.

990
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: But I'm also starting to make some cool YouTube content.

991
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: I say cool by myself. I love myself. But it's

992
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna get It's gonna get wet. Is there a tweet

993
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Um? Actually, I am off Twitter. Is

994
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: there a YouTube video, any work of social media or

995
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: any media that you've been enjoying? Uh? No, great, just

996
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: isn't Well that's good to counterbalance here. Nothing is overrated.

997
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: Miles where can people find you? Oh? If you can

998
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

999
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Speaker 1: Also on my other podcast for twenty Day Fiance with

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Speaker 1: Sophia Alexandra Um And first of all, I just want

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1003
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Speaker 1: blessing to see everybody in a room and the vibes

1004
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Speaker 1: were fucking so positive and it was all love after

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Speaker 1: the show. UM, really great to meet everybody. Uh, you

1006
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1019
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1025
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Speaker 1: what Kobe did on the field and off the field.

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