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Well, if you 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: have a baby, you already know that there's a shortage 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: of formula. If you don't have a baby, maybe you've 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: been reading the stories as people that haven't had kids 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: in years and decades even are weighing in on the 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: baby formula's shortage. With the latest on that, as our 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: ABC News correspondent Brian Clark and Brian the store shelves 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: are largely empty. You hear these anecdotal stories of someone 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: that may have driven around to five or six stories 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: before they were able to find any baby formula. They 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: purchase the baby formulat and then I think about the 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: next person that then they show up and it's not 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: at that one either. Now they have to go to 23 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: eight or nine stores before they're able to find it. 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: So this seems to be a real problem with this 25 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: formula shortage. What's our latest on this. Yeah, it's become 26 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: a national problem from coast to coast. And you use 27 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: a good word, they're anecdotally because we've heard for a while. 28 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: You know, especially if you don't have kids who are 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: using formula, that man, it's hard to find baby formula 30 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: right now, but you kind of put it back of 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: a vine until you realize just how vital this stuff is. 32 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: If you've got a small child. There's somebody who needs 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: baby formula. So where we are right now is that 34 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: there is really a nationwide shortage and a lot of 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: that can be traced back to Abbot, which is one 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: of the big four manufacturers of baby formula in the US, 37 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: having to take one of its facilities in Michigan offline 38 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: and having to recall a whole bunch of formula that 39 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: have been made there that's still not online. So you 40 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: had a whole bunch of product recalled and nothing new 41 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: to replace it, and no supply coming in, So that's 42 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: what's caused this problem. Yeah, I know that when it 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: comes to the supply and baby formula, it's a pretty 44 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: and or a supply that they have is demand for 45 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: baby formula really doesn't fluctuate a whole lot. And so 46 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: as this plant goes down, My understanding is, Brian, and 47 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: you can confirm it that suddenly your your demand remains 48 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: the same, but your supply is just plummeted by as 49 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned, the largest producer this Abbott. So now what 50 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: are people doing. They can't get their similax, so now 51 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: they're going to what alternate brands and and it's just 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: everybody's wiping everything out. Everybody's wiping everything out. You know, 53 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: before this, you know you're not really advised to be 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: switching brands of formula. You know, once you have a 55 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: baby on one brand, the doctor's advised to stick with 56 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: one brand. Now, obviously talking to the doctor is the 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: best answer for this, just to try to figure out 58 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: the best way forward amid these shortages. And this is 59 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: maybe an extreme situation, but yeah, that's one thing people 60 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: are doing. Um, there are some things people are doing 61 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: that are worrying doctors, like trying to make this stuff 62 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: at home, which you should never do because you know, 63 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty uh, pretty sensitive thing to make, and 64 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: you've got to take certain steps that you couldn't do 65 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: in a home kitchen. Something else people are doing that 66 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: they're saying do not do is try to dilute it, 67 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: just to stretch out the supply, make it last longer. 68 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: This is infant formula we're talking about, So you know, 69 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: toddler formula also exists. There's no problem with toddler formula, 70 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: but you can't substitute it for infant formula. So if 71 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: you have toddler formula, don't give that to your infant instead. 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: So there's a lot, you know, there's a lot of 73 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: other problems that this could cause. So Brian, I'm just 74 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: imagining Brian Clarker Aby Seniors corresponded, as we talk about 75 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: the baby formula shortage, I'm imagining the mother who's you know, 76 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: I always come up with these scenarios in my head. 77 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of the single mom who's working two jobs, 78 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: has a couple of kids at home, is trying to 79 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: stay afloat. She's seen the price of the formula surge, 80 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: she's cut back elsewhere so that she can make sure 81 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: that the baby has formula, and now the formulas not 82 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: even available. She looks at the toddler formula and says, well, 83 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: something's better than nothing. But you're saying, no, that's not 84 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: the case. You can't give the toddler formula to the 85 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: to the infants. Are they completely off? Are they totally different? Yeah? 86 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a safety and nutrition thing where it's 87 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: just not what should be had. One thing that that 88 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: is an okay substitute. But again, you've got to talk 89 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,119 Speaker 1: to the doctor about this. If the baby is over 90 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: six months old, you can sub in cow's milk for formula. 91 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to do this on a 92 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: permanent basis, but you could get by with that in 93 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: the hypothetical you just talked about. Well, of course, you know, 94 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 1: if the doctor signs off on it. But yeah, that's 95 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: a real problem, and we're seeing the federal government also 96 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: taking action like WICK. It's the kind of the federal 97 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: program for lower income people who have children. Um, they're 98 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: essentially going to kill abbott is going to keep funding 99 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: this because Abbotts applies a lot of these WICK programs 100 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: with the formula. They're saying through August they'll give rebates, 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: so you're not going to have to pay for the 102 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: formula for people in these programs, whether or not it's 103 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: made by ABOD, So you could go buy whatever you 104 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: can find and you'll get reimbursed for it. So that's 105 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: one way they're trying to keep some people who really 106 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: need this and maybe don't have the means to pay 107 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: for try to keep them with formula. All right, Dan Brian, 108 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: I know you talked with radio stations all day long 109 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: about this, is our ABC News correspondent, but I throw 110 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,799 Speaker 1: out the same question that I see in every single 111 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: Twitter post anybody's ever made. Why is this such a problem? 112 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: Why not just breastfeed? Because not everybody can. It's that simple. 113 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: Some people choose not to, some people cannot. Some people, 114 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, have jobs that don't allow them to travel 115 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: or to be home for breastfeeding, or to pump a 116 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: sufficient amount for the baby. So yeah, in a perfect world, 117 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: that's what would be the case. Everybody would do that. 118 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: Doctors say that's the best way to do it, But 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, we don't live in a perfect world, and 120 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: it's just not an option for everybody, do we know. 121 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean I've read different studies to say that it's 122 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: something like forty or fifty percent of moms use formula 123 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: as opposed to the other mental half or sixty percent 124 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: that do breastfeed. But it is a pretty sizable portion 125 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: we're talking about here where this is not a situation 126 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: where it's maybe five percent. We're talking about a really 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: sizable portion of new mothers that use the formula right exactly. 128 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: And it's becoming, you know, more and more of a 129 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: thing because you know, decades ago, there was no formula, 130 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: so people they'd breastfeed the baby, they'd give the baby milk. 131 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: And now that it's becomes such a vital part, that's 132 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: creating a lot of questions that hey, maybe there should 133 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: be there's some question today at the White House. You know, 134 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: we have national stockpiles of so many crucial goods. We've 135 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: heard about this a lot in the pandemic. Maybe there 136 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: should be a national stockpile of baby formula that they said. 137 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: That's not being discussed at the White House, but I 138 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: think it's going to raise a lot of questions now 139 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: that we are so reliant on baby formula. Yeah, now 140 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: that is that a concern about expiration dates on baby. 141 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like toilet paper, you know, if 142 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: they want a stockpile toilet paper. So we didn't go through, 143 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, March twenty twenty. Again, that'd be one thing. 144 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: But the formula is edible, so it must have an 145 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: expiry date on it, doesn't it. It does. It lasts. 146 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: We're a little bit removed from formula here in this house, 147 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 1: so it's it lasts a little bit longer like most things, 148 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: once it's um once it's unopened, you can it's got 149 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: a decent shelf life. Once you open it, it's a 150 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: very short shelf life. So if you have unopened formula, yeah, 151 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: there's an expiration date, and that's what could complicate you know, 152 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: stockpiling it just in case of times like these. All right, 153 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: so that makes sense they could rotate that out if 154 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: they needed to then in order to keep a bit 155 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: of a stockpile in the future. Any any ideas on 156 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: how long it may take to get that that that 157 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: factory up and running again, the one that got shut 158 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: down because of the FDA investigation. Abbot's saying that, you know, 159 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: not guaranteeing, but they're saying they could have it up 160 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: and running again within two weeks, pending FDA approval, but 161 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: then there's obviously you know time after that before it's 162 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: back up to a hung and back out on shelves. 163 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: They've taken some other steps. They've got more coming in 164 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: from an FDA registered place in Ireland. They've turned a 165 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: facility in Columbus into a formula production center. And something 166 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: the FDA says they're going to do next week. You 167 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: can't import breasts formula rather into the US. They're very 168 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: strict regulations just about the way it labeled and measured, 169 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: and they're going to ease some of these restrictions and 170 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: so that will allow for formula from what they say 171 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: are approved countries. You don't know which those are to 172 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: be imported into the US next week. So that'll add 173 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: to supply. So the next few weeks, hopefully we'll see, 174 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, the situation get a little bit better. But 175 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: one of the other formula manufacturers was saying today to 176 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Reuters that he thinks this is going to be a 177 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: problem for the rest of the year. There's going to 178 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: be some kind of shortage, but hopefully, you know, the 179 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: critical part passes sooner rather than later. Yeah, especially if 180 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: like we saw with the toilet paper stuff that if 181 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: people are stockpiling, which they're advised not to do, but 182 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: if they're stockpiling that she makes the problem worse in 183 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: the short term, which extends the actually the amount of 184 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: time it takes for us to recover on that. So 185 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: I can certainly see why they might believe this this 186 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: would take a while. Brian, good to talk to you. 187 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your report on this. Brian Clark, ABC, 188 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: just correspondent on in New York. It had been a 189 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: great reporter on that. Thank you, Brian, Thank you the 190 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: yeah you met. The future of politics could be getting 191 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: and I know it's hard to believe, could be getting 192 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: even more petty shocker. I'll tell you how this is 193 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: going to play out and why it might be part 194 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: of a strategy that the parties are using. That is next. 195 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: Chris merrill in for John and ken Ka. If I 196 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: am supported live everywhere on your iHeart radio app, you 197 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: probably have heard in the news updates that the January 198 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: sixth Committee has subpoena, subpoena, subpoena, we subpote I mean 199 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: they've subpoenaed. Kevin McCarthy, I know the word. It's just 200 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: I know, But isn't subpoena a dumb word? Sub p 201 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: and e piana p o e n a. I always 202 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: hate that word as a dumb word. Uh So, anyway, 203 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: they've subpoenaed Kevin McK What was the other one I 204 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: got hung up on. I was doing a radio show 205 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: and I got hung up on politicization. Politicization. Politicization, Yeah, 206 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: politicize a politic I Ca'm gonna do it. And I 207 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: know what the word is. Uh So, anyway, theyre the 208 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: January sixth committee subpoena Kevin McCarthy, who was the minority 209 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: leader in the House representative from California, UM. According to 210 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: Representative Benny Thompson, chairing the Slit committee, the panel subpoena 211 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: McCarthy representatives Moe Brooks from Alabama, Andy Biggs from Arizona. 212 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: Who's nuts, Scott I worked there, I know, Scott Perry 213 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania, and Jim Jordan from Ohio, terrible wrestling coach. 214 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: The move marks a significant escalation of the committee's efforts 215 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: to obtain information related to the lawmakers communications with President 216 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump Whitehouse Chief of Staff Mark Meadows before, during, 217 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: and after the attack. Now as We know we had 218 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: some leaked audio of Kevin McCarthy saying that he was 219 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: going to call the president and he was going to 220 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: tell the president this, you know, he should resign, that 221 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Well, that didn't happen. We know that 222 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: in the aftermath of January six, McCarthy and McConnell did 223 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: something remarkable in saying that this was on the shoulders 224 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: of President Trump. They were ready to throw him under 225 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: the bus. And then shortly thereafter they suddenly said, did 226 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: we say it was his fault? We meant not his fault. 227 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: That's what just misspoke, meant not we met, not his fault. 228 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: So whatever we said before, it was just we forgot not. 229 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: That's all right, okay. So are they going to show 230 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: up since they've been subpoenaed? No, all five Republican lawmakers 231 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: have declined to voluntarily provide information to the committee. So 232 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: will the committee go so far as to hold them 233 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: in contempt of Congress for not showing up? They're not 234 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: going to. No, they won't, and I'll tell you why 235 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: they won't. As much as they might fight with one 236 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: another another over politics, and especially when the cameras are 237 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: on them, they're all part of a club. The fact 238 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: that they issue the subpoenas in the first place is 239 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: a bit of a slap in the face to the 240 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, the the higher ups in the club. All right, now, 241 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: you got to remember, this is like it's it's it's 242 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: like being a part of a big organization, and it's 243 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: it's a very elite organization and you're in. So everybody's 244 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: in this big elite organization and they usually have each 245 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: other's backs. Not when it comes to the politics. They'll 246 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: throw mud all day long, but they normally are not 247 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: going to go through the steps of you know, the 248 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: legal process on people. It is a bit shocking that 249 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: they would subpoena. They're using this legal process in order 250 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: to capitalize and the political momentum that they think that 251 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: they have the January sixth committee, so they go, Okay, 252 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: you know what, We're going to subpoena these Republicans, Republicans 253 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: whose names have been linked to the insurrection in January sixth, 254 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: and then the plan to not certify the election or 255 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: to usher in alternative electors or whatever somebody's cockamami plan 256 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: was for that day. There were a number of them 257 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: that day, whether it was to hang Mike Pence, or 258 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: to omit certain electors and let in alternates or whatever 259 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: it might have been. So anyway, the January six Committee says, 260 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: let subpoena these people and then if they don't show up, 261 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: that's good. It's good. Now. The Democrats on that January 262 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: sixth committee believe that they have the upper hand here. 263 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: They believe that they've out maneuvered the Republicans since they 264 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: invited them to come voluntarily and the Republicans said no. 265 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,599 Speaker 1: The Democrats thought, oh, okay, well, now what are we 266 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: gonna do? So they were face with this decision. Are 267 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: we going to subpoena the House minority leader, who's entirely 268 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: possible that McCarthy becomes the Speaker of the House next year? 269 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: Totally possible. I mean, it's well within the realm of possibility. 270 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: Are we going to subpoena him legally require him to 271 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: show up? Are we going to take that step it's 272 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: pretty bold move. Or are we going to let it 273 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: slide that he didn't want to speak to us. Well, 274 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: the January six Committee says, well, we have to do 275 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: our diligence. The Old country is watching us, and if 276 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: we subpoena them, and they don't show up. That means 277 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: we don't have to show up to other subpoenas. So 278 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: you have to understand how this plays out. We know 279 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: that when you have one party that decides to break 280 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: with history and do something astonishing, the next party, the 281 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: other party, always looks for the opportunity, the very next opportunity, 282 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: to do the same thing. So here's what's going to happen, 283 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: all right, if it plays out this way. Now, the 284 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: election hasn't been held, and lord knows, after the last 285 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: two elections, I don't make predictions anymore because it's it's 286 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: it's wild. But since we are in a mid term, 287 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: and since the president is very unpopular, and that very unpopular, 288 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: but its popularity is well below fifty percent. So since 289 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: the president is a Democrat and he's unpopular, and it's 290 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: a mid term, it is likely based on history here 291 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: we're kind of reading the farmer's Almanac, that the Republicans 292 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: are going to regain control of the House and likely 293 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: the Senate. All right, might not play out that way. 294 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: It's possible it doesn't, but history would tell us that 295 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: that is what happens. In fact, it's happened for the 296 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: last three presidents, I believe at least the last two. 297 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: So we know historically it's a tough it's a tough 298 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: row to ho for the the incumbent party, all right, 299 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: So what then is going to happen is the Republicans 300 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: are going to take over and they're going to do 301 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: what politicians do, and they're gonna start calling for a 302 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: bunch of investigative committees. All right. We saw this the 303 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: last time Republicans are in charge, and they had all 304 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: the different Benghazi committees. We're gonna have Hillary Clinton in 305 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: here every other week so that we can grill her 306 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: and try to get our picture on TV some more. 307 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: We see this with the with the Democrats and not 308 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: even talking about January sixth, but we see them grilling 309 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Republicans over to different things and what was your involvement 310 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: and when did you know this? And when was the 311 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: phone call to Ukraine? And what did the president do 312 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: with Russia and all the other stuff. So now this 313 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: is just another Senate committee. When the Republicans get back 314 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: in charge, they've already said that first chance they get, 315 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: they're going to put together an investigative committee to look 316 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: into Hunter Biden's laptop. Right, So They're already planning the 317 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: charade as soon as they get control again. So what 318 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: will happen then is that the Republicans will take control. 319 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: They'll put together their their committee on standing in front 320 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: of cameras, and they will then feel like, well, since 321 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: the Democrats subpoena us, will subpoena them, Since McCarthy and 322 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: Biggs and Jordan and the others are not likely to 323 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: abide by the subpoena, it will leave the committee with 324 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: the decision do they refer McCarthy, Brooks, Biggs, Perry, and 325 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: Jordan to the DOJ for contempt of Congress. I'm gonna 326 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: bet you right now that they don't. Again, it is 327 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: an exclusive club. The performance art that we're seeing right 328 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: now only goes so far. They're not going to cross 329 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: the line out of performance art, which means that these 330 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: Republicans are not going to testify in front of the 331 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: January sixth panel. They're not going to abide by that subpoena. 332 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna basically say, subpoenas are worthless, and we dare 333 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: to hold us in contempt. The Democrats won't. The Republicans 334 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: will get into the next They'll win the next election. 335 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: They'll put together their subcommittee on whatever trumped up charge 336 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: they want. They'll start subpoenaing Democrats, and the Democrats are 337 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: gonna say, ah see, you already showed us we don't 338 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: have to show up for subpoenas. So the Democrats are 339 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: actually hoping to get to get out of jail free 340 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: card by the Republicans. But there's just dopes if they 341 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: think the Republicans don't respond to subpoenas, suddenly it's not 342 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a big deal if they don't when the 343 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: Republicans are in charge. But you and I have seen 344 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: this over and over again. The GOLP is just playing 345 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: better at politics. They have a more active base, so 346 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: they're going to ignore the subpoena. They're gonna call it. 347 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: Then when the Republicans have control, they're gonna call a 348 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: Democratic Congress people to testify. The Democrats are going to say, 349 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: we don't have to follow the subpoena because ha Us 350 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: and the Republicans are gonna make hey out of that, 351 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: and they're gonna do a better job of it. And 352 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's gonna be all about what 353 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: are the Democrats afraid of? Why won't the Democrats test 354 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: to find what Democrats knew what and when, and they're 355 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: gonna beat the hell out of this. And Fox News 356 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: is gonna have this on every report in oa N 357 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: somehow still on the air, We'll have every report on this. 358 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: And Sean Hannity is gonna go on the r adio 359 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: and tell everybody about it. And then all the other 360 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: talk show hosts are gonna do this and all the 361 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: other and they are going to activate their machine and 362 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: they're going to win the battle of words on this. 363 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: And the Democrats still haven't figured out. They don't have 364 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: the kind of social cloud that they had fifteen twenty 365 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: years ago, not even close. All right, I gotta take 366 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: you to space man. Yeah, man, I love space stories. 367 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: I found a couple today and I thought, oh, I 368 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: gotta talk to you about these. I love them. They 369 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: are next. It's Chris merrill In for John and Kent 370 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: k IF I am six forty live everywhere in your 371 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app. Hey, oh, Chris merrill In for John and Kent. 372 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: Pleasure being with you here once again. And you know what. 373 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: I love space, man, love space, love space stories. Give 374 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: me a chance to I love it. I was a 375 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: little kid, I had a picture of the Solar System 376 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: on my wall, and I memorized all the planets. And 377 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever used any of the 378 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: what do they call those, the oh, the pneumonic devices, 379 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: and what was it? My very excellent mother just, oh, man, 380 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: what was this? My very excellent mother just sent us 381 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: nine pizzas because Pluto is still a planet. When I 382 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: was a kid, I remember the old days when Pluto 383 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: was a planet. My very excellent mother just sent us 384 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: nine pizzas. That was the pneumonic device to remember the 385 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: first letter of each planet, right, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, 386 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: and Pluto. And now it's my very excellent mother just 387 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: sent us nine. I don't know. Maybe she was German. 388 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: So I always loved this growing up. I always had 389 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: that Solar system and I love space. My found out 390 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: as I got older, my grandparents were still alive and 391 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: they still lived in the house where where my pops 392 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: grew up. And I'd go stay at my grandparents house, 393 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, the babysitting or whatever, and they'd say, well, 394 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: if you're really nice, well let's just stay in your 395 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: dad's old room. Right. Otherwise, they kind of closed off 396 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: that end of the house. It's just a couple of 397 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: my dad and my aunt were Otherwise, they closed it off. 398 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: Didn't want to spend money on heat and cooling all that. 399 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: So okay, all right, I'm gonna be really good and 400 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: I can stay in Dad's old room. Like that was 401 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: something special whatever. I was a kid, I was dumb. 402 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: I believed it, but I did. I stayed there, and 403 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: he had that iconic photograph of the astronaut on the 404 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: moon or I don't know which astronaut it was. I 405 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: don't know if it was an alarm Strong or Buzz 406 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: alder In or from a later mission. I don't have 407 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: a clue. What is that iconic picture where it's sort 408 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: of a close up from about the oh, like the 409 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: knees up and the gold visor reflecting the Earth in 410 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: the visor. Such a fantastic photograph from the moon. And 411 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: that was That was a poster my dad had on 412 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: his wall, which he was probably a little bit old 413 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: for that by the time that photo was taken, but 414 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: he was still in high school. I guess you put 415 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: it up on the wall, which is cool. So come 416 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: to find out, you know, the family had loved this 417 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: space talk to and I just I always I always 418 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: loved it, man, I just dug it. Now. I remember 419 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: when I was I was, it would have been it 420 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: would have been the eighties, mid eighties. I was watching 421 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: the old show and I think Jack Palance was the host. 422 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this. It was called 423 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: Ripley's Believe It or Not. They did a reboot of 424 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: this um like in the nineties or two thousands. But 425 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: I was watching the show Ripley's Believe It or Not, 426 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget. That was where I first saw 427 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: the photo of the face on Mars. It's a pretty 428 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: iconic photo and it looks like there's a face in 429 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: the surface of Mars and uh and you, I mean 430 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: you look at it and you go, oh my goodness, 431 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's got to be the face. That's that's 432 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: a face of some sort of an alien figure. And 433 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: it's been the wind has blown the dust away from 434 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: this face. There it is. It's also when I learned 435 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: about a term which I of course couldn't remember at 436 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: the time, but I learned it years later called periodolia. 437 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: And if you're unfamiliar periodolias. When we tend to see 438 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: faces in inanimate things or anything else that we can 439 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: attribute to something more familiar on a broader definition, where 440 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: we started attributing human features to things that are not 441 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: human because it helps our brain process it. In otherwise, 442 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: you look at the moon, you see the face in 443 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: the moon, you go, oh, it's the man on the moon. 444 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: That's just your mind playing tricks, and you're saying, oh, 445 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: it's periodolia. Your mind is just trying to associate things. 446 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: The face on Mars, by the way, it just turned 447 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: out to be shadowing on rocks because as the as 448 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: the whatever the craft was at the time that took 449 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: that photo, as it came around again, it took a 450 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: photo from a different angle and you could see the 451 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: rocks that had created that facial like feature. But we've 452 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: got another It's not periodolia this time, but it is similar. 453 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: We've got another phenomenon on Mars. And if you haven't 454 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: seen this, there's another photograph that just came to light. 455 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: NASA just released this and I swear to you it 456 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: looks like a doorway in the side of a of 457 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: a hill. It's trippy, man, looks like a doorway. Now. 458 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: One of the things that I know about people who 459 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: are UFO enthusiasts is that they tend to let their 460 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: imaginations get ahead of them often. In fact, I love 461 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: the show Ancient Aliens. I love it. I love it. 462 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: I don't believe a word that they say, but I 463 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: love it. I love how creative they get. I love 464 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: how absurd they can get. I love that show, and 465 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: every now and again I learned something about history too. 466 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: It's on a history Ancient Aliens. It's fantastic. So I 467 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: was watching Ancient Aliens. I think it was last week. 468 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: I was watching an episode and they were talking about 469 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: this this formation on one of the mountains in the 470 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: state of Washington. And this mountain, I believe it was Washington. 471 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: This mountain had a very inaccessible area and as you 472 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: zoomed in on it with a long range telephoto lens 473 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: on a camera, it looked like it had a door. 474 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: It was remarkable. Oh, I'm sorry, it wasn't It was 475 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: Exploration Unknown Exploration X. That was the show. I was 476 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: watching another History channel a similar deal. So anyway, they 477 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: focus this camera on this and they went, oh, looking 478 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: at it looks like a doorway in the middle of 479 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: a mountain. And there've been a lot of sightings of 480 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: UFOs in this area, and so they were like, oh, 481 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: it's got to be where they're going. They're going into 482 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: a secret base in this mountain, and we found the 483 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: doorway because they were all the seed of this with 484 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: this telephoto lens. The doorway was otherwise very difficult to accent. 485 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: It was on a sheer side of this mountain. You 486 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: couldn't get to it, so they did. They wanted to 487 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 1: investigate closer, so they hired a helicopter pilot, and a 488 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: helicopter pilot took them up there, and as they got closer, 489 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: the hosts were going, oh my gosh, it's really crazy, 490 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and then the helicopter kind of spun 491 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: around a little. Of course, they had some drama the 492 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: helicopter crashing and it didn't but whatever. As they get 493 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: closer and closer to it, they go h turns out 494 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: it was simply shadowing on the side of this sheer 495 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: rock phase, but from a distance with this telephoto lens, 496 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: it looked like a doorway. Similarly, NASA has released this 497 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: photo of what appears to be a doorway, the sort 498 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: of thing that you would see in Star Wars. It 499 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: looks like there is a very obvious and we don't 500 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: know the dimensions, but it appears to be the right 501 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: ratio is sizewise for the sort of sort of doorway 502 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: that you might see in the side of a hill 503 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: here on Earth. So immediately our minds go, wow, I 504 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: recognize that it looks like something I would see elsewhere. 505 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: Maybe it looks like a backdoor into a pyramid, or 506 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: this is where the aliens are hiding out, or this 507 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: is the entrance to a cave or something of this sort. 508 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: So our minds start to go crazy. Right if you 509 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: look at it, it looks like you can kind of 510 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: peek at it. And I'm looking at the photo and 511 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: it's in front of you. Right now, they say the 512 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: Internet is having a field day with conspiracy theories about 513 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: this doorway, many party poopers pointing out the door is 514 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: likely just a sheer fracture and the result of some 515 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: kind of strain on the rock, breaking part off of 516 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: part of it off, excuse me, breaking part of it off. 517 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: If you look at the photograph, there is an area 518 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: to the left that almost looks like it would be 519 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: a like a like a like a patio wall. However, 520 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: right in front of that what looks like a sheer 521 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: cut patio wall kind of thing. You can see where 522 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: the rest of that had broken off and is now 523 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: laying in front of the door. So obviously there was 524 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: a crack, there was a rift in there somewhere, and 525 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: it fell. This part sheered off and tumbled out a 526 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: little bit, leaving behind what appears to be a perfectly 527 00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 1: cut doorway. However, it is so incredibly similar to the 528 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: one I just described on this Alien Hunting show that 529 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: the Expedition X that I'm left going this is absolutely 530 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: nothing more than a crack in the rocks and the 531 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: shadows bouncing in and playing tricks on us. But man, 532 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: I love to dream. I love to dream, love to 533 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: look at that stuff and think, ah, there's something else, 534 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: something more out there, something I'm missing. Love it all right, 535 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: we will dream a bit more as we welcome in 536 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: the amazing Tim Conway Junior. It's Timmy time next. Well, 537 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: the best time of the day is always when Tim 538 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: Conway Junior pops in. And then of course for the 539 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: next few hours you've got to the great Tim Conway 540 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: Junior that's going to be ushering in a greatness on 541 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: radio I'm looking forward to talking with Tim Conway Junior, 542 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: so we'll look forward to joining him coming up here 543 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: at six. Oh, yes, here we go. You know, there 544 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: was a story earlier this week which caught all of 545 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: our attention because it was a massive man hunt. Right. 546 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: This is the Alabama escaped prisoner, right, and it was 547 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: the guard that helped him escape, assuming of course, that 548 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: they were having a romantic relationship and intimate relationship. Don't 549 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: know exactly how that transpires where you're a guard for 550 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: umpteen years and then suddenly you fall in love with 551 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: the murderer or an accused murderer anyway, and you go, oh, 552 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I will throw away my entire life 553 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: for this guy. It's not like she didn't have chances 554 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: in the past, but now for something, for some reason 555 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: in her mind, she said, oh this is this is 556 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: a good idea. I think Vicky White was her name. 557 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: That was the guard. They were both named. He was 558 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: a Casey White, if I remember the name correctly. Her 559 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: name was Vicky White. No relation. But then later when 560 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: they got caught, he claimed that it was his wife. 561 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: She took her own life during the capture, and he 562 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: ended up going back to prison. So once again the 563 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: aider and a better ends up getting the short into 564 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: the stick. We've seen this playout before, like you know 565 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: how the story is going to end, We know how 566 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: this is going to roll, and still it will happen again, 567 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: and some other guard knows what the history is, they 568 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: know how it ends, but for some reason they always go, well, 569 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be like that for me, And of 570 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: course it is, yeah, of course it is. There's no 571 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 1: happily ever after. I think they end up watching prison 572 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: Break right, the old Fox series, and they think, oh, 573 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: that could be USO, we'll be happily ever after. No, 574 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: it never ends up happily ever after. It doesn't happen. 575 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: So we watched that play out and there was this 576 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: massive man hunt and we thought, oh my goodness, it's 577 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: gonna be amazing. Are they gonna get away with it? 578 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: They never get away with it. Usually they're caught within 579 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: a few hours. Sometimes somebody will get away for a 580 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: couple of days. Rarely somebody will make it more than 581 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: a week, which these guys did. They made it more 582 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: than a week, and a lot of that came down 583 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: to they had prepared right. She withdrew a bunch of money. 584 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: They switched cars, they had kind of prepared, but it 585 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: really only took what week, week and a half before 586 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: they ended up getting getting brought back in. Remember the 587 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: escape in Upstate New York a few years back, same 588 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: situation where it was two dudes and one prison guard 589 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: and she helped them escape and they were trying to 590 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: get to Canada. They were out for I don't remember 591 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: how long that was, ten fourteen days something like that, 592 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: and then finally ended up getting busted. One of them 593 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: got shot. In fact, the only two prison escapes that 594 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: I can think of off the top of my head 595 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: that lasted for any amount of time. It'll be the 596 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: second time on the show today that I mentioned this. 597 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: It was Remember the old Clint Eastwood movie Escape from Alcatraz. 598 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: We don't ever, We don't know what happened to those guys. 599 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: We don't have a clue. They just disappeared who never 600 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: heard from again. Many people think that they had never 601 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: made it to land, that they succumbed to the cold 602 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: water in the bay there in San Francisco around Alcatraz. 603 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: But they don't think. They don't know whatever happen of 604 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: those guys. No clue Um, it's really hard to stay hidden. 605 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: Although when they escaped back and whatever, it was the 606 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, it would have been a lot easier to 607 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: just change your identity back then than it is now. 608 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: So that's that's probably the most successful prisoner escape I 609 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: can think of, other than Shawshank Redemption, which was fictional. 610 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: The other one was do you remember the Oklahota excuse me, 611 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Olympics bombing, right when they thought Richard Jewel 612 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: did it, and they and they all they were like, oh, 613 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: we searched this house this guy, Richard Jewel. Come to 614 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: find out the guy actually was trying to stop the 615 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: bomb from going off, like he he caught when that 616 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: something goofy was happening and he tried to stop him. 617 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, it was nearby. It was him, Like, 618 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: we searched his house, we found pornography on ever in 619 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: the whole country. Went oh, he's got port. He's guilty. 620 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: This guy looks and playboys. He's definitely guilty. String him up. 621 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: And then you come to find out Nope, he's just 622 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: a normal guy who has playboys and he was not 623 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: the bomber. But that didn't seem to matter at the 624 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: time as the whole country went bonkers. So we find 625 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: out that the real bomber was Eric Rudolph. Eric Rudolph 626 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: escaped from prisoner, was out for like four years. They 627 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: caught him digging through a dumpster. Finally took four years. 628 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: Nobody really paid much attention to him though, in that escape. 629 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: I think it's because the whole investigation had been botched 630 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: so badly with the Atlanta Olympics bombing that they didn't 631 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: didn't really want to bring any more attention to how 632 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: they had botched things up the first time. And then 633 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: the authorities end up the guy escapes and they didn't 634 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: really want more attention brought up to how they had 635 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: botched it. Well, good news, I suppose if you are 636 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: somebody who likes I don't know, maybe you like rooting 637 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: for the bad guy, maybe you like the chase, whatever 638 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: it is. There's another one dude out of the failed 639 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: Republic of Texas. He's doing life for murder. I don't 640 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: know how he's only serving life for murder because his 641 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: murder was with a pickaxe, which in Texas you would 642 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: think that, you know, that would definitely be a death penalty. 643 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a plea deal or something. He was 644 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: being transported between two facilities from Gatesville to Huntsville. He 645 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: was going for a medical appointment in Leon County. The 646 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: Texas Department of Criminal Justice says that Gonzala Lopez, he's 647 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: forty six years old, yesterday overpowered the bus driver and escaped. 648 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: Two officers were on the bus, all right, this for 649 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: maybe sews. Two officers were on the bus, one at 650 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: the front as well as one at the back. The 651 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: guy at the back, well I say guy, but maybe 652 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: it was female. The officer at the back was armed 653 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: with a shotgun, and somehow Lopez, they say, Lopez was 654 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: somehow able to get out of his shackles and get 655 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: into the driver's compartment of the bus. So you know, 656 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: the bus has got like a gate, and it has 657 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: a guard at the front and a guard in the rear, 658 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: and somehow he gets unshackled and either gets past them 659 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: or disables them of some sort of that that's not 660 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: being reported, and then gets into the area where the 661 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: bus driver is. So he got out of his shackles, 662 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: got into the bus driver's compartment. They're not saying how 663 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: that happened. He cut out the bottom of a door 664 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,959 Speaker 1: that separates inmates and the driver. He used some type 665 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: of device, they say, we don't know what, some type 666 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: of device to cut out the bottom of the door. 667 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: He was able to overpower the driver. They say there 668 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: was a struggle, the bus went off the roadway. He 669 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: tried to grab the driver's service weapon, he couldn't get 670 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: it out of the holster. And then during the fight, 671 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: the bus driver ends up getting stabbed in the hand 672 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: and they say punctured in the chest. Suffer non life 673 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: threatening injuries. So the bus driver did what they could. 674 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: The question is what happened to the other officers. The 675 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 1: officer in the back of the bus, they say, fired 676 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: two shots into the bus's rear wheels. Lopes is able 677 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: to drive the bus for about a mile of flat 678 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: tires OIC. So they're saying that there was a there 679 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: was ice. I read this run. What they're saying is 680 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: that there was an officer front in front of the bus, 681 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: not at the front of the bus, and an officer 682 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: trailing in another vehicle to the rear of the bus. 683 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: I see, now this makes more sense. I didn't know 684 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: how they'd have two officers in the passenger compartment and 685 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: he got by just the same dude ends up getting through, 686 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: gets the bus, gets control of the bus, they shoot 687 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: the wheels out, and then he takes off right he 688 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: said he fled across a cow pasture. Other inmates that 689 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: were on the bus remained on board. Last we saw him. 690 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: He did not appear to have a weapon in his possession, 691 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: but who knows what he might have been able to get. 692 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: Unless this has changed since I prepped for the show, 693 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: which has been four hours, we may have may have 694 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: a con on the run. All right, the Great Tim 695 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: Conway Junior is up NeXT's been a pleasure talking with you. 696 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: Look forward to the next time. 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