1
00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,520
Speaker 1: What is up? Welcome to another edition of the NFL

2
00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,000
Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Podcast. It's me and your man named G.

3
00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,800
Speaker 1: Marcus Grant socially distancing and masking when and where necessary

4
00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,720
Speaker 1: and Uh, welcome again to another edition of Fantasy Camp.

5
00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,120
Speaker 1: As we go all throughout the NFL divisions, going division

6
00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,200
Speaker 1: by division. This is a division number four, so at

7
00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,000
Speaker 1: this point we will be halfway through. We will be

8
00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,720
Speaker 1: finished with the a f C. UH. Next week we'll

9
00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,720
Speaker 1: start getting onto the NFC divisions, which means we are

10
00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,400
Speaker 1: getting closer, uh in theory to the start of the

11
00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,479
Speaker 1: NFL season and theory getting closer to the start of

12
00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,120
Speaker 1: training camp as well. I say in theory because we

13
00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,120
Speaker 1: have no idea how any of this stuff works. Um.

14
00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,959
Speaker 1: But I have a couple of guests that you may

15
00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,879
Speaker 1: or may not know, depending how deep you are in

16
00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,040
Speaker 1: these fantasy streets. I will introduce them in just a moment.

17
00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,239
Speaker 1: But before I do that, normally I would talk to

18
00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,080
Speaker 1: my faithful producer, Senior Edward L. Murphy esquire. But mersal

19
00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,960
Speaker 1: vacation this week, Uh, still living things up in in

20
00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,440
Speaker 1: y C. How Fully he is good and safe there

21
00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,240
Speaker 1: and look forward to him getting back. But in the meantime.

22
00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,640
Speaker 1: One of the shout outs to our Juna, who stepped

23
00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,240
Speaker 1: in to help out. I know you usually are sort

24
00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,520
Speaker 1: of a special projects guy. I know you've lived that.

25
00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,000
Speaker 1: You were living that move the Sticks life, you know,

26
00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,720
Speaker 1: going big time with Bucky and DJ. So I appreciate

27
00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,120
Speaker 1: you sitting in and helping me out today. Of course,

28
00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,920
Speaker 1: happy to you know, happy to be here, happy to help, Yeah,

29
00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,560
Speaker 1: no doubt. So, UM, I want to get to my

30
00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,959
Speaker 1: guests now. UM, A couple of guys that I have

31
00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,880
Speaker 1: known basically through social media, and now it's a chance

32
00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,800
Speaker 1: for me to meet them in person. For for those

33
00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,000
Speaker 1: of you can't see, I'm doing air quotes for in person. Um. First,

34
00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,080
Speaker 1: a guy that is a contributor over at four for

35
00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,839
Speaker 1: four as a staff writer at The Athletic, also working

36
00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,800
Speaker 1: for Fantasy Data as well. Uh, Eric Moody. Moody, appreciate

37
00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,160
Speaker 1: you jumping in man. How are things in Dallas? Man?

38
00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Things are going going pretty good, you know, given the circumstances.

39
00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,960
Speaker 1: I know we're talking just briefly before we started recording,

40
00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,040
Speaker 1: so been able to h you know, lose some weight,

41
00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,960
Speaker 1: get some more exercise out there. But I'll say the

42
00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,600
Speaker 1: biggest uh, you know kind of takeaway, you know from

43
00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,280
Speaker 1: all this, you know, just trying to I guess make

44
00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,440
Speaker 1: lemons out of lemonade, so to speak, is additional family time.

45
00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,200
Speaker 1: You know, being able to work from home with the

46
00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,120
Speaker 1: family has been huge. So it's going as best as

47
00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,760
Speaker 1: a can. My friend, thanks for the no I appreciate it.

48
00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,600
Speaker 1: And I feel like what you said is kind of

49
00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,160
Speaker 1: the general sentiment I've gotten from a lot of people

50
00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,720
Speaker 1: that I've talked to. I mean, this is kind of

51
00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,919
Speaker 1: our our life now. So um, my other guests, another

52
00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,200
Speaker 1: guy that I originally knew from social media, and I

53
00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,280
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like you and I sort of

54
00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,079
Speaker 1: started communicating. I don't even know if you were writing

55
00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,480
Speaker 1: fantasy at the time when we first started communicating, and

56
00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,720
Speaker 1: we would just kind of, uh, you know, you'd ask questions.

57
00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,520
Speaker 1: I kind of bounced back with answers as much as

58
00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,799
Speaker 1: I could. Uh. And now I've I've kind of watched

59
00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,399
Speaker 1: your career sort of grow. You're writing it for for four,

60
00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,720
Speaker 1: you're doing stuff at Number five d L Football Draft

61
00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,400
Speaker 1: consult as well. It is Chris Allen also co hosted

62
00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,360
Speaker 1: the Dynasty Manuel Pod. So, Chris, it's nice to finally

63
00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,320
Speaker 1: connect with you over something more than characters. Man, how

64
00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,480
Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing well? And yeah, I mean I

65
00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,919
Speaker 1: think the first time that we've actually started going back

66
00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,760
Speaker 1: and forth, I think it was over It might have

67
00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,680
Speaker 1: been over some beers that I had sent to Matt

68
00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,639
Speaker 1: Harmon and uh I sent those out to his way

69
00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,240
Speaker 1: way back when, and uh things have just kind of

70
00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,120
Speaker 1: snowballed from there. But again I'll echo Eric statements and

71
00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,400
Speaker 1: saying thanks for bringing me on. And uh, I think

72
00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,919
Speaker 1: I know we just missed each other last year at

73
00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,640
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Expo, and hopefully when things get back to

74
00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,480
Speaker 1: some sense of normal, we might be able to connect

75
00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,200
Speaker 1: next time you're out you're out in Ohio. Yeah, no doubt.

76
00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,960
Speaker 1: I gotta ask them before we get too deep into this.

77
00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,400
Speaker 1: Are you brewing anything new and exciting that? Uh? Oh absolutely,

78
00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,000
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the again again to have

79
00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,040
Speaker 1: to echo Eric sentiments and making lemons out of lemonade

80
00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,120
Speaker 1: because of being at home so often, actually have like

81
00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,360
Speaker 1: an electric electric brewing set up here and I can

82
00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,880
Speaker 1: actually brew like in my house. And uh so between

83
00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,040
Speaker 1: that and being at home like there have been uh,

84
00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,360
Speaker 1: I guess my my boss is hopefully are gonna be

85
00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,600
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast. But during some meetings, I've had,

86
00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, the kettle running, and I've been checking things

87
00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,840
Speaker 1: and um, you know, doing a little bit of multitasking.

88
00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,280
Speaker 1: So I've been trying to keep up with as much

89
00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,520
Speaker 1: as I can. I'd like to say what happens here

90
00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,320
Speaker 1: stays here, but I want I want people to listen.

91
00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I'll send it directly to them and let

92
00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:25,400
Speaker 1: them know. Sounds good. Um, Before we dive into talking

93
00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,480
Speaker 1: about the a f C. West, I have to ask

94
00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,960
Speaker 1: if either of you have are are about to load

95
00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,480
Speaker 1: up on Washington football team merchandise? Uh? Now that that's

96
00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,159
Speaker 1: that is their name for the year. They are the

97
00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,800
Speaker 1: Washington football team. I mean you're down in Dallas, where,

98
00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,120
Speaker 1: like you know, home of their eternal rivals, the Cowboy. Yeah,

99
00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,280
Speaker 1: there's a pretty good chuckle going on that they're going

100
00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,800
Speaker 1: to just be the Washington football team for a year. Yeah.

101
00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna purchase any merchandise. I tell

102
00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,440
Speaker 1: you it's it's it's tough enough being in Dallas and

103
00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,520
Speaker 1: being a diehard Saints fan. So you can just imagine

104
00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,800
Speaker 1: the type of grief that I get for friends in

105
00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,840
Speaker 1: the area and co workers. Let me tell you, oh man,

106
00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. I will say that I'm not

107
00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,080
Speaker 1: a fan of the club, but I'm tempted to buy

108
00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,839
Speaker 1: at least a T shirt because it may be a

109
00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,799
Speaker 1: collector's item at some point, just for the memorabilia, right,

110
00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,839
Speaker 1: you know, whenever they come up with whatever their next

111
00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,840
Speaker 1: permanent name is going to be, you know, to say

112
00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,799
Speaker 1: that you had a T shirt that just says Washington

113
00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,400
Speaker 1: Football Team or have whatever. Yeah, I mean, so I

114
00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,400
Speaker 1: don't I remember buying. I grew up in the Bay Area,

115
00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,120
Speaker 1: and I remember there was a point when the San

116
00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,040
Speaker 1: Francisco Giants like they were signed, sealed and delivered to

117
00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,200
Speaker 1: move to like Tampa St. Pete. I mean, the trucks

118
00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,640
Speaker 1: were packed like they were gone. And I was never

119
00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,560
Speaker 1: a Giants fan as a kid, but I remember getting

120
00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,119
Speaker 1: some gear, thinking like, hey, it's gonna be a collector's item,

121
00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,880
Speaker 1: and I like had some like shorts and a T

122
00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,040
Speaker 1: shirt or something like that. And then those jerks ended

123
00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,719
Speaker 1: up staying in San Francisco, so liked you, I didn't

124
00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,480
Speaker 1: like that wasn't even like worth anything. So that's just

125
00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,880
Speaker 1: me venting anyway over to the a F West. Uh

126
00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,400
Speaker 1: always have some big questions for each of the teams.

127
00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,599
Speaker 1: Will do some kind of superlatives and best and worst

128
00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,320
Speaker 1: potentially from the division. Uh, and then some either or

129
00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,400
Speaker 1: questions at the end to kind of have some fun with.

130
00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,400
Speaker 1: But we'll start with the big questions for the Denver

131
00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:18,000
Speaker 1: Broncos and Moody. I'll start with you, Um, how are

132
00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,120
Speaker 1: you approaching this Broncos backfield now that Melvin Gordon is there,

133
00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,880
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay, I mean, Royce Freeman is still a sentient

134
00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,120
Speaker 1: human being. UM, I mean, how are you looking at

135
00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,440
Speaker 1: this backfield right now? Yeah, it's it's an interesting one.

136
00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,760
Speaker 1: I will tell you. My preference is to target Lindsay.

137
00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'll give you, uh, you know reasons why.

138
00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,280
Speaker 1: So you look at a DP you know, according like

139
00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,680
Speaker 1: four for four Lindsay z R B forty Melvin Gordon

140
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,840
Speaker 1: z RB sixteen. Now, the perception is that Gordon's going

141
00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,360
Speaker 1: to dominate the opportunities in the backfield because the Broncos

142
00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,760
Speaker 1: are paying him nine million. You know that's definitely not

143
00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,279
Speaker 1: backup money. We'll just say so, you know, Gordon's average,

144
00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,360
Speaker 1: you know, ninety one total yards and nearly seventeen PPR

145
00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:00,400
Speaker 1: points per game and sixty seven active games since. Now Lindsay,

146
00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,760
Speaker 1: on the other hand, he's no slouch like he's average

147
00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,480
Speaker 1: a D point to total yards and nearly fourteen PPR

148
00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,960
Speaker 1: points per gamer of the last two seasons. Now you've

149
00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,120
Speaker 1: got a new element that's added in this year. Of course,

150
00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,560
Speaker 1: with Pat Sherman, you know joins the Broncos is a

151
00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,000
Speaker 1: new OC. You know, he's publicly stated you know that

152
00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,840
Speaker 1: he plans on using both facts and so you know,

153
00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:23,200
Speaker 1: the addition of Gordon obviously negatively impacts Royce Freeman more

154
00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,080
Speaker 1: than Lindsay. I think we're looking at a committee and

155
00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,560
Speaker 1: in those scenarios, my preference is to go with the

156
00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,240
Speaker 1: least expensive option. Now, another thing with the Broncos, look

157
00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,120
Speaker 1: at their offensive line. I'm like, they were solid up

158
00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,960
Speaker 1: front last season. I'm like, if you look at football

159
00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,200
Speaker 1: outside is adjusted line yards metrics, you know they finished eleventh.

160
00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,400
Speaker 1: Given the offseason adjustments, you know they're well positioned to

161
00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,320
Speaker 1: repeat this feat. Now Denver and something else has not

162
00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,800
Speaker 1: really spoken about, but as the next offensive lineman. You know,

163
00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,480
Speaker 1: this is like my thing, but you know Denver has

164
00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,160
Speaker 1: one of the top like offensive line coaches in the NFL.

165
00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,080
Speaker 1: In Munchat and you know that's a committee you really

166
00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,040
Speaker 1: want a piece of in fantasy. You know, the Broncos

167
00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,440
Speaker 1: ran the football, you know, of their offensive plays last season.

168
00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,880
Speaker 1: You know. I looked at my projections, uh, you know,

169
00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,720
Speaker 1: on prepping, you know, for the show today, and my

170
00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,160
Speaker 1: projections have Gordon finishing around like two touches and Lindsay

171
00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,120
Speaker 1: with the round D. So it's one of those scenarios

172
00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,880
Speaker 1: where they can have a similar finish, you know, at

173
00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,440
Speaker 1: the end of the year, and again I just want

174
00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,000
Speaker 1: to go with the cheaper option. Yeah. I mean my fear,

175
00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,240
Speaker 1: Chris is that, you know, like I'm with Moody in

176
00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,320
Speaker 1: the fact that Melvin Gordon is going to be the starter.

177
00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,000
Speaker 1: I think that there's no doubt about that. My fear

178
00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,160
Speaker 1: is that we'll get midway through the season and suddenly

179
00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,679
Speaker 1: it turns into a hot hand backfield where you may

180
00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,319
Speaker 1: start one guy, you know, you may start Gordon for instance,

181
00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,280
Speaker 1: Lindsay ends up having a better game and your guys

182
00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,960
Speaker 1: sitting on the sideline. I guess that that is my

183
00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,400
Speaker 1: biggest fear when I look at this Broncos backfield, and

184
00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,600
Speaker 1: I am I weird for that? No, I don't think

185
00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,600
Speaker 1: you're weird. For that at all. And I think that's

186
00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,600
Speaker 1: something that especially, you know, given the times that we

187
00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,520
Speaker 1: live in that I mean, you're gonna see a lot

188
00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,000
Speaker 1: of committees being formed either through just the virtual nature

189
00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,200
Speaker 1: of the backfields or just the way that the pandemic

190
00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:02,920
Speaker 1: is going to wind up in affecting many of the

191
00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,480
Speaker 1: teams that we're talking about right now. So I don't

192
00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,080
Speaker 1: think I think that's a fair way to approach the backfield.

193
00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,560
Speaker 1: And then also, I mean given the fact that I

194
00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,319
Speaker 1: mean this is I mean Gordon switching teams, and also

195
00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,559
Speaker 1: I mean Lindsay, I mean to his credit, I mean

196
00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,920
Speaker 1: what back to back, like thousand yards seasons coming out

197
00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:19,920
Speaker 1: as a un f a. I mean, there's a lot

198
00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,920
Speaker 1: of talent that you can't just summarily displace. And I

199
00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,120
Speaker 1: know that a lot of folks want to use his

200
00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,680
Speaker 1: contract information as a reason to just go ahead and

201
00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,360
Speaker 1: let's summarily say that Melvin Gordon is going to be

202
00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,640
Speaker 1: that guy that's gonna wind up with sixty the touches.

203
00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,319
Speaker 1: But how do you get rid of the I mean,

204
00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,920
Speaker 1: the what fifty plus percent rate that Philip Lindsay had,

205
00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, what he was able to do on the

206
00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,959
Speaker 1: ground both as a rusher and as a receiver out

207
00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,680
Speaker 1: of the backfield. To me that it's hard. I'm hard

208
00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,320
Speaker 1: pressed to believe that that's just a situation where it's

209
00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,120
Speaker 1: just well, we just gave this guy a bunch of money, Philip,

210
00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,520
Speaker 1: you just go sit on the bench. I mean again again,

211
00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,240
Speaker 1: I'm just it's hard for me to see that just

212
00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,480
Speaker 1: happening straight out of the gate, and I can I

213
00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,679
Speaker 1: can much rather see a much more even split with

214
00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,400
Speaker 1: as Eric was pointing out that the one that gets

215
00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,079
Speaker 1: hurt the most is Royce Freeman, Right, yeah, No, I

216
00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,800
Speaker 1: feel like Royce Freeman has sort of, to to quote

217
00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,680
Speaker 1: the Mike Tyson sort of faded into bolivion. Um. I

218
00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,920
Speaker 1: don't you know. I just I don't see any any

219
00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,120
Speaker 1: real opportunity, at least not enough to make him worth

220
00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,760
Speaker 1: even taking a late dart throw at um Chris. After

221
00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,040
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton, which are there any which past catchers? Are

222
00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,120
Speaker 1: there any that you're you're really targeting that you trust?

223
00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,959
Speaker 1: I mean maybe Noah fant Um, But but are are

224
00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,839
Speaker 1: you big on say Jerry Judy, a kJ Hamdler, any

225
00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,680
Speaker 1: of those guys beyond Courtland Sutton? Uh? Not really? I mean,

226
00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,680
Speaker 1: and I think it's not necessarily a function of the receivers.

227
00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,240
Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry Judy very high. He was one of

228
00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,040
Speaker 1: my favorite like wide receiver prospects coming out in this

229
00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,840
Speaker 1: year's class. Uh. And I'm very excited about what Noah

230
00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,480
Speaker 1: fan can do. Seeing one of the long touchdowns that

231
00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,560
Speaker 1: he had, I believe that was went back in like

232
00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,079
Speaker 1: weeks seven or something like that of last season, that

233
00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,400
Speaker 1: seventy five yard touchdown like up the scene. I mean,

234
00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,920
Speaker 1: very athletic, and those are that's what we want in

235
00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,680
Speaker 1: those like mid mid round like tight ends. But I

236
00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,559
Speaker 1: think when you look at the Denver passing offense as

237
00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,559
Speaker 1: a whole, I mean, they were sitting at like just

238
00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,400
Speaker 1: below average in terms of like neutral pass rate, and

239
00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,840
Speaker 1: it's to me the way that they're building their team

240
00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,120
Speaker 1: doesn't really seem like it's one conducive to literally like

241
00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,200
Speaker 1: any of the other teams that are within their division.

242
00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Oakland has now moved on like as tried

243
00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,520
Speaker 1: to at least come into the twenty one century in

244
00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,560
Speaker 1: terms of like they want to add more pass catchers.

245
00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,520
Speaker 1: They're already running up against like the Super Bowl contenders

246
00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,319
Speaker 1: in Kansas City and the Chargers. I mean to their credit,

247
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,400
Speaker 1: they don't have Philip Rivers anymore, but they still have

248
00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,800
Speaker 1: a number of pass catchers as well. But all of

249
00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,520
Speaker 1: those other teams like had a much higher passing rate,

250
00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,280
Speaker 1: like for the way that they wanted to approach their offense,

251
00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,840
Speaker 1: Denver does not. I mean, there's still one of those

252
00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,679
Speaker 1: teams that I look at as being one of those

253
00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,600
Speaker 1: that would rather, let's grind out the clock, Let's see

254
00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,120
Speaker 1: what we can do on the ground. If we need

255
00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,520
Speaker 1: to pass that we can, and otherwise we'll just let

256
00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,679
Speaker 1: our defense like do most the heavy lifting and we'll

257
00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,440
Speaker 1: go and we'll try and work it that way. And again,

258
00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,920
Speaker 1: playing in that division, I don't know how often they're

259
00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,200
Speaker 1: going to really be able to actually execute that philosophy.

260
00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,120
Speaker 1: But looking at how that they operated last season within

261
00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,640
Speaker 1: the last like four or five games where Julock was starting,

262
00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:16,000
Speaker 1: that seemed to be the case. Unless they were pulled

263
00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,000
Speaker 1: into a negative game script like playing when they took

264
00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,800
Speaker 1: that first elegance Kansas City or when they were playing

265
00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,080
Speaker 1: against Houston. I mean, that seemed to be more of

266
00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,840
Speaker 1: what would actually spark that that passing offense. Otherwise, I

267
00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,559
Speaker 1: think that the volume is gonna be low enough that

268
00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,760
Speaker 1: outside of the guys that you mentioned, I mean, Melvin Gordon,

269
00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,360
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay certainly. No, if fan will take a dart

270
00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,240
Speaker 1: throw on him, Courtland Sutton, absolutely I'll take a look

271
00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,200
Speaker 1: at look at him as well. But outside of that,

272
00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you're really just I mean, you're you're throwing

273
00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,760
Speaker 1: darts without really any I guess hope that they wind

274
00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,640
Speaker 1: up beating their ADP. Yeah, you know, and so so

275
00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,360
Speaker 1: Chris mentioned the potential passing volume there in game striping

276
00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,960
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. I'm moody. Obviously, the Broncos have

277
00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,880
Speaker 1: gone all in on Drew Lock as their quarterback in

278
00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,840
Speaker 1: the future, at least for now. Um, I mean for

279
00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,240
Speaker 1: our purposes though, Is he ready for prime time in

280
00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,760
Speaker 1: Are we still talking about maybe another year or two away. Yeah,

281
00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,200
Speaker 1: that's a really good question, I believe. So, uh, you

282
00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,360
Speaker 1: know Lock, you know, he has Schermer's as o C.

283
00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's a proven, you know, kind of play caller.

284
00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,360
Speaker 1: You know, he has a pedigree to position his players

285
00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,120
Speaker 1: to be successful. One thing, we're looking at his coaching tree.

286
00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's part of Andy Reid's coaching tree. So

287
00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,720
Speaker 1: Schubert's offense is a blend, you know, the West Coast,

288
00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, and spread offenses. So Lock, you know at Missouri,

289
00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm like he thrived in that type of scheme for

290
00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,120
Speaker 1: fantasy purposes. You know, he has more of a QB two,

291
00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,600
Speaker 1: but in certain matchups he is going to have QB

292
00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,920
Speaker 1: one upside. I know a lot of a lot of

293
00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,199
Speaker 1: people may think that the you know, the Broncos aren't

294
00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,679
Speaker 1: going to throw like as much. You know, I know

295
00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,440
Speaker 1: they've got Gordon, they obviously have Lindsay. But yeah, I

296
00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,679
Speaker 1: think many will be surprised once the death settles on

297
00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,760
Speaker 1: the season with a number of past attempts that Drew

298
00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,960
Speaker 1: Lock has. Uh yeah, I think I always feel like

299
00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,160
Speaker 1: and I talked about quarterbacks. You know, we look at

300
00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,720
Speaker 1: these guys, especially the younger guys, and their potential upside um.

301
00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean, if you like, for art, for for fantasy,

302
00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,640
Speaker 1: they're all sort of hampered by the fact that the

303
00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,800
Speaker 1: position is incredibly deep, you know. Um, Like it's like

304
00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,200
Speaker 1: you look at Daniel Jones is a guy, for instance.

305
00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,240
Speaker 1: I know we're not talking NFC, but Daniel Jones is

306
00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,720
Speaker 1: a guy who is you know, supposed to be uh

307
00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,760
Speaker 1: maybe what he called him sleep or breakout however you

308
00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,680
Speaker 1: want to categorize him this year, um, but he still

309
00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,760
Speaker 1: guys going like way off the board, like late off

310
00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,400
Speaker 1: the board, because you know, you can easily find ten

311
00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,240
Speaker 1: or twelve quarterbacks that you would rather have ahead of

312
00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,960
Speaker 1: ahead of Daniel Jones and I think Drew Lock, I

313
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,080
Speaker 1: think it it's kind of in that category as well.

314
00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,680
Speaker 1: Can I make a comment on Jude real quick go

315
00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,000
Speaker 1: for yeah, I would saying like with like with the

316
00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,680
Speaker 1: the you know the question about the past catchers in Denver, Um.

317
00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,640
Speaker 1: You know, I'm pretty high on on Jerry Judy, like

318
00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,480
Speaker 1: he's a good route runner. I'm like he has the

319
00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,000
Speaker 1: strength to impose his will like on Nickel, you know, cornerbacks.

320
00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,240
Speaker 1: I'm like he dominated the slot in college and you

321
00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,440
Speaker 1: know the expectations that he feels that role for humor,

322
00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,680
Speaker 1: you know, who has a history of leaning heavily on

323
00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,960
Speaker 1: eleven personnel And so the Handy, the more conviction with that,

324
00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000
Speaker 1: like at the draft, you know, months ago, whenever they

325
00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,920
Speaker 1: picked up Handler. So I'm like, okay, Greg, you can

326
00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,960
Speaker 1: have Hamdler that can be on the outside. You're gonna

327
00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,720
Speaker 1: move Judy you know inside. And again, if you look

328
00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,040
Speaker 1: at for for four's um, you know strength of schedule metric,

329
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,200
Speaker 1: you know schedule adjusted Fantasy points allowed, and like the

330
00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,840
Speaker 1: Broncos do have a difficult schedule. But I think what's

331
00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,280
Speaker 1: gonna cause headaches for defensive coordinators is that, I'm like,

332
00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,200
Speaker 1: you've got this plethora of receiving weapons and you have

333
00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,120
Speaker 1: to pick your poison. Who you're going to contain. You know, Sutton, Judy,

334
00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,920
Speaker 1: you know Handler, and so someone is going to get

335
00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,400
Speaker 1: there's and I really do believe it'll be Judy, and

336
00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,400
Speaker 1: I think he'll end up finishing the season for the

337
00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,640
Speaker 1: Broncos second in targets and get more targets and no

338
00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,760
Speaker 1: a fan. Uh. That sort of begs the question, how

339
00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,680
Speaker 1: much are you guys kind of leaning into this idea

340
00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,760
Speaker 1: that young players, rookies especially are going to be hurt

341
00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,400
Speaker 1: by having an unconventional offseason. I mean, I feel like

342
00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,320
Speaker 1: that's the consensus alot. I've seen some pushback on that.

343
00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm just curious about how you guys sort of feel

344
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,560
Speaker 1: about that. I mean, at least for me, it's easier

345
00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,760
Speaker 1: for me to tell myself a story as to how

346
00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,920
Speaker 1: the running backs have an easier time integrating into their

347
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,840
Speaker 1: respective offenses, just given the nature of the position. Now

348
00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,280
Speaker 1: for certain wide receivers in their situations, like we were

349
00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,440
Speaker 1: just talking about Jerry Judy like we were like, even

350
00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,400
Speaker 1: if we wanted to, we'll probably wind up talking about

351
00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,440
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs here like here shortly. Uh, any other the

352
00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,160
Speaker 1: lookie the rookie wide receivers that walk into situations where

353
00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,840
Speaker 1: our expectation is they might not like might not necessarily

354
00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,120
Speaker 1: be starters, but they should be a constant rotation within

355
00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,400
Speaker 1: their respective offenses. I see a path to those guys.

356
00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,520
Speaker 1: But other guys, let's say that might be slightly buried

357
00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,960
Speaker 1: on the depth chart just due to the nature of

358
00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,400
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room that they're that they're in. So

359
00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,680
Speaker 1: let's say a guy like t Higgins. Uh, let's say

360
00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,040
Speaker 1: a guy like uh, maybe Michael Pittman. But we'll see,

361
00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,120
Speaker 1: like the with the injury situations with the other wide

362
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,240
Speaker 1: receivers are Indianapolis, those guys might take a little bit

363
00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:00,880
Speaker 1: longer for them to get on the field again just

364
00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,720
Speaker 1: because of the nature of who they're who they're competing

365
00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,200
Speaker 1: against for targets. I mean, Pittman's dealing with he's got

366
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,000
Speaker 1: Paris Campbell, he's got t Y Hilton. I mean there's

367
00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,680
Speaker 1: still other receivers. They're the same thing with te Higgins

368
00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,560
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati. I mean, if you still believe in John Ross.

369
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,800
Speaker 1: I do because I have a soft spot for Cincinnati,

370
00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,199
Speaker 1: But then all the way all the way up to

371
00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,120
Speaker 1: a J. Green and so on and so forth. I mean,

372
00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,000
Speaker 1: those are guys that are gonna have a tougher time

373
00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,240
Speaker 1: like making their way onto the field just because they

374
00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,879
Speaker 1: have a deeper rotation. But for guys like Jerry Judy,

375
00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,480
Speaker 1: guys like Ceedee Lamp, guys like Jalen Reagor, I think

376
00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,720
Speaker 1: it's easier for me at least to tell myself a

377
00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,479
Speaker 1: story as to how they get on the field, just

378
00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,560
Speaker 1: because due to the I mean the fact that there

379
00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,480
Speaker 1: should be a larger part of their offense versus anybody else.

380
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,359
Speaker 1: I feel, look, everyone a lot about you in the

381
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,680
Speaker 1: last few days, Chris, that you're you're a John Ross. Stand,

382
00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:50,879
Speaker 1: you're a Corey Davis stand. Please somebody send help you

383
00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,879
Speaker 1: in the last few days. Now, all right, here is

384
00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,320
Speaker 1: the Kansas City. Uh. Also, it's not the both of

385
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,920
Speaker 1: you guys. Can you movie if you want to start?

386
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,640
Speaker 1: And Chris you can jump in the earliest you've been

387
00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,040
Speaker 1: willing to draft Patrick Mahogan and then just say, you know,

388
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,000
Speaker 1: just a standard you know, one q not not to

389
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,800
Speaker 1: QB league, just the one QB league whatever. What what's

390
00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,760
Speaker 1: the earliest you have been at least thinking about taking

391
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,600
Speaker 1: a swing at the hole. Yeah, I would say if

392
00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, if he was sitting there, like in the

393
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,160
Speaker 1: fifth round, you know, I take a you know, I'll

394
00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,280
Speaker 1: go and scoop him up, and we're just so conditioned

395
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,200
Speaker 1: to take a quarterback like in the later rounds. I

396
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,399
Speaker 1: would say, I'm more concerned with finding like a cheaper

397
00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,280
Speaker 1: quarterback option who has like a similar range of outcomes

398
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,920
Speaker 1: in twenty two, like on my homes, because I always

399
00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 1: think about, like, you know, opportunity costs. You know, I

400
00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,880
Speaker 1: draft my homes at a DP her, third, fourth, fifth round,

401
00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. I'm always more concerned about what

402
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,080
Speaker 1: what I'm giving up by by taking him. But I

403
00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,199
Speaker 1: would say another quarterback that hasn't really gotten a lot of,

404
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, publicity is Matthew Stafford. That's a guy that

405
00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,479
Speaker 1: I'm particularly high on. You think if you look at

406
00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,919
Speaker 1: like you you know, different projections and things. I'm like,

407
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,320
Speaker 1: I could see a similar range of outcomes for my

408
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 1: Homes and also for Stafford that's eerily similar. I'm like,

409
00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, he has you know, like top ten, you know,

410
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,000
Speaker 1: QB upside obviously even you know, top five even, But

411
00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's the third teenth QB coming off the

412
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 1: board according to A four for four A is a ADP.

413
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,160
Speaker 1: And you think to last season. You know, again, it's

414
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,000
Speaker 1: like everyone thinks about, you know, what, what's he done

415
00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,840
Speaker 1: for me lately? And they think about the train wreck

416
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 1: that Detroit was. That's a whole another conversation. But you

417
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,679
Speaker 1: know Stafford, you know, Stafford average like three twelve passing

418
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,119
Speaker 1: yards per game and eight games last season. But I'm like,

419
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600
Speaker 1: he's criminally underrated. So that's a guy that I would

420
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,640
Speaker 1: prefer to target instead of my homes. At least answer

421
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 1: your question, markets, I believe he was QB six before

422
00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 1: he went down, a QB six points per game before

423
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,400
Speaker 1: you went down. So to your point, I think that's

424
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 1: that's the right way to look at it. Yeah, I mean, Chris,

425
00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,400
Speaker 1: are you feeling the same fifth round or so for

426
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 1: for Mahomes? And I think if you're gonna if you're

427
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 1: gonna approach it by just the way that the market

428
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,000
Speaker 1: rolls and like with his third round a DP. If

429
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it, I mean you have to at

430
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 1: least understand, like Eric pointed out, the opportunity costs associated

431
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: with it. And if I was gonna go ahead and

432
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,000
Speaker 1: swing for the fences with Mahomes in the third round,

433
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean, at that point, you might as well just

434
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 1: go ahead and do just like the absolute monster stack

435
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: of grabbing like Kelsey in the first round, go Tyreek

436
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: in the second, and then go ahead and grab Mahomes

437
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,119
Speaker 1: in the third, grab Damien in the fifth if you

438
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: feel so inclined, and then and then just ride it out.

439
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, because at that point, I mean, at that point,

440
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: you're trying to go for like the most unique high

441
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 1: upside roster. Because you I mean the third round drafting

442
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, that means you've you've passed up on uh

443
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 1: D J Moore, Odell Beckham, any of the third round

444
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 1: like running backs, if you still choose to try and

445
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 1: get with that, Melvin Gordon, I mean, any of those guys,

446
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 1: Chris Carson, anybody that any of those mainstays at the

447
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: core positions. So if you're gonna do it, you might

448
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: as well at least try and you know, what's the

449
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: what's the football term? If you're gonna screw up screw

450
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 1: up big, you might as well do you might as

451
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 1: well do it that way and just get yeah, exactly,

452
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 1: and try and just get as many as many as

453
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 1: much part of as much of the upside as you

454
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: possibly containing a single roster. I mean, you're talking about

455
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: a big swing that is a Tiger Woods off the

456
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: Monster story like that. Um. Also, this is also where

457
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 1: I make my obligatory pitch for us as a community

458
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 1: reconsidering quarterback scoring. And I I don't know, people who listened

459
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,639
Speaker 1: to this pot regularly are probably sick of hearing me

460
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: say this, But I keep coming back to, like, if

461
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: we all agree that Patrick Mahomes is awesome and that

462
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: he is arguably the best player at the most position

463
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: important position on the field, we have to make it

464
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 1: so that it's not considered a competitive disadvantage to draft him.

465
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: That's right. Um, Yeah, I don't have any I don't

466
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: have any further like, you know, answers for you then, Matt,

467
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm just like the six four

468
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 1: what was it six for touchdowns and then yeah four

469
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: I've also said, you know, I feel like escalators when

470
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 1: it comes to both multiple touchdown passes and multiple interceptions too,

471
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: because there's no way, there's there's no real way that

472
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston should have been a top five quarterback after

473
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: like that. That just shouldn't happen. I mean, how many

474
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: other top five quarterbacks end up losing their job the

475
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 1: year after? How many top five quarterbacks had you know,

476
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 1: six time champions coming that's true. I guess if Tom

477
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 1: Brady wasn't on the market, that maybe that would have

478
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 1: been there at their options. This is kind of a

479
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 1: party of one. I think, yeah, that Christian. I mean

480
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: you talked about taking big swings at the Chief's offense, right,

481
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we know Tyreek is going to go early,

482
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,679
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is going to go early. You look around

483
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: the rest of that receiving corps, right, I mean there's

484
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 1: hope for maybe Nicole Hardman. Uh, we're definitely gonna get

485
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 1: these Sammy Watkins. You know that the one Sammy Watkins

486
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: game where he goes for like a buck fifty and

487
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: like two or three touchdown But over the long haul,

488
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 1: can this offense sustain a third pass catch er? Is

489
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: there somebody worth taking that that dart throw at late.

490
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if well I would say that's the

491
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 1: I guess I'll partially answer the question saying, yes, the

492
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: Kansas City offense can support a third pass catch, sure,

493
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: but that pass catcher doesn't have a name, or it's

494
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: an amalgamation of its amalgamation of Damien Williams, DeMarcus Robinson,

495
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, Nicole Hardman. I mean, pick your poison. So

496
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,640
Speaker 1: I think that the easiest answer is probably to probably

497
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: run it back with Sammy Watkins, even though I feel

498
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: bad for saying that, uh, just just because of the

499
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: like his current contract situation, the fact that they brought

500
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: him back, uh, and how he was used within the

501
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: offense uh last season, like when he shined, like especially

502
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: towards the back end of the season into the playoffs.

503
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that was the guy that Mahomes was

504
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: looking for, more so than Kole Hardman. I mean, and

505
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 1: not to discredit Nicole or any of any of his advantages,

506
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: but to me, it just seems like he'll wind up

507
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: being more of a rotational player than anything else. And

508
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: as much as I would like him to be a thing,

509
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 1: I mean, like his his targets here I mean he

510
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: started games and didn't even get any targets. So, like,

511
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: how do we see that jumping into a even attend

512
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: to fifteen percent target share, which would put him in

513
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: like the wide receiver to wide receiver three that sort

514
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: of range. I just can't see it. I see that

515
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: team is more of like, let's pack as many past

516
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: catchers so we can in to that offense. So very

517
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: similar to what Denver has is trying to do in

518
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: is pick your poison. You've either got Cortland Sutton and

519
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy now here in Kansas City. Pick your poison.

520
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: You now got tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, Damian Williams come

521
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, Clyde Edward Hilaria on the backfield

522
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: as well, and try and defend us that way. It's

523
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: it's hard to put a to pin down who that

524
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: third receiver is going to be because they have so

525
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: many of them. Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean

526
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if is there somebody that did you

527
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: are my preference? My preference is Sammy Okay? Uh? Eric,

528
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: I mean is that what you're looking at? Is there

529
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: somebody else? Are you just kind of punting on that

530
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: third guy right now now that I agree with a

531
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: lot of comments that that Chris mentioned, and I guess

532
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: I'll change on my my Henry cavill Uh you impersonation

533
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: for the Witcher. As he was going through that breakdown,

534
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was like, I was agreeing,

535
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: but I would say, if you're going to go with

536
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: one guy, uh, you know mckel uh, you know McCole Hardman,

537
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, is a guy for me. I'm like, if

538
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,239
Speaker 1: you look at I know, we didn't get a lot

539
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: of a lot of a lot of volume. Uh, I

540
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: didn't get a lot of targets, but I just think back,

541
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, the average is like twenty one

542
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: yards nearly twenty one yards like per reception, and and

543
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: that just that is just really attractive. We do you

544
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 1: think he's catching passes from Patrick Mahomes? But I'm like,

545
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, he may top out at what eight eighty targets,

546
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: eighty five targets, uh, you know for this year. So

547
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna have some big games, but it's just gonna

548
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: be difficult to sustain the third pass catcher. So you know,

549
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with Chris. Yeah, No, I mean

550
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think. I think we just

551
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: sort of get caught up, right. We see the homes

552
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: that we see the big numbers, and we see the

553
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: passing volume, and we just think that like, there's gotta

554
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: be But you know, sometimes the answer is none of

555
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: the above. I think in a lot of cases, Um,

556
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 1: you guys mentioned Clyde Edwards till there and the moment

557
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: he got drafted by the Chiefs, I think we all

558
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: had our collective fantasy party about what it could possibly be.

559
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: And I mean he literally is like he's like the

560
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: hottest toy at Christmas right like everybody was trying to

561
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: rush to get him. Um, which makes me ask the question, Moody,

562
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: are we disrespecting Damian Williams? I mean, this guy was

563
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: he very well could have been the Super Bowl m

564
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: v P. He played very well in the postseason, played

565
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: that well down the stretch. Uh, and now he's sort

566
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: of getting tossed the side. Are we are we just

567
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: disrespecting him right now? It's just it's just a nature

568
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: of the beast, you know. I always think about the

569
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: running back position. I know, you know, we have a

570
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of witty people we know on Twitter.

571
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: You know that talk about running backs all the time,

572
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: but I just always think about, like the Metallica song

573
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: from you Know They're classic, Master of Puppets, disposable heroes.

574
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: That's essentially what running backs are. So getting disrespected. I'm like,

575
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: he's entered the entering the final year of his contract,

576
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: but the Chiefs have to plan for the future. I'm like,

577
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, Williams will still be involved. I'm like, you know,

578
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: the guy average, you know, eighteen point six touches d

579
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: ten total yards per game, Like over his last seven games,

580
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: including the postseason. You know, we know he went gangbusters,

581
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: been the Super Bowl. I'm like, but when you when

582
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: you have your franchise quarterback who just won your franchise

583
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, it just says, Clyde, go get him,

584
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: and then the front office goes to get the guy.

585
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, that speaks volumes, and so Andy Reid, I'm like,

586
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: he hadn't used the first round pick on a running

587
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: back since selecting Shady McCoy back in two thousand nine.

588
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: I think that turned out okay. So it's just it's

589
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: just kind of a sign of the times, and Damian

590
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: Williams just happens to be in the wrong place at

591
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: the wrong time. And plus if he did stay healthy

592
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: and was more consistent in that regard than that may

593
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: have gone down differently. But who knows. But it just

594
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: is what it is right now. Yeah, I'm gonna start

595
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: a go fund to me for veteran running backs, all right. Yeah,

596
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 1: definitely not a definitely not a position to position, the

597
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: position to play. So I was obviously way way too

598
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: big to play, you know, to play running back. You

599
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: know that I'm playing ball. I was about six four,

600
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: about three fifteen, so definitely not the running back type.

601
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm like, if you know, muscles, a basketball,

602
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: basketball kid, but like if he was playing football, it's

603
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: just like that. I probably wouldn't have him play running

604
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: back right there. Yeah, there's there's some job security in that.

605
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: I have to do that very true over to Las Vegas,

606
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: and I had to make sure I said Las Vegas

607
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: and I didn't just go with Oakland Um out of

608
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: a reflex. But over Las Vegas, Chris, what is what

609
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: is potentially the ceiling for for Josh Jacobs this year?

610
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean I would say whatever we think about for

611
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: for Nick Chubb, I think that's about his like his

612
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: ceiling and the reason I said, the reason I use

613
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb as a as a placeholder is just based

614
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: off of what he has in terms of competition in

615
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: the backfield, what he has in terms of competition as

616
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: as a receiver, and just the way that the whole

617
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: offense is structured I mean Oakland. I mean, for as

618
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: excited as we are regarding that offense, and with the

619
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: addition of Henry Ruggs, Bowden, Brian Edwards, I mean there's

620
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of there's a lot of excitement around

621
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: the passing offense, but still, I mean this was a

622
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: more or less like underwhelming like passing offense. I mean,

623
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: at the at the hands of Derek Carr, I mean,

624
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: they were below below the league average in terms of

625
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: neutral passing rate, also below league average in terms of

626
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: deep ball rate. I mean, so there's in terms of

627
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: like passing volume, and that's really what we look for

628
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: in terms of the running backs that are going in

629
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: those first couple of rounds. I'm just not seeing it

630
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: as in terms of what you would want out of

631
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: like what you would want even from like floor perspective.

632
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: But at the high end, let's assume that they get

633
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: pulled into some of those games gripts. I mean they are, uh,

634
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: they are that they do have to play against Kansas

635
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: City twice, l A a a couple of times, and actually

636
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: I believe within the first like first few games, I

637
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: think they play against like San Francisco and like a

638
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: few other games. So it's it's possible that I mean

639
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: Jacobs winds up being that guy that they turned to

640
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: a bit more often, just given the nature of the

641
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: game environment in itself and so at best I can

642
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: see him kind of pushing into that RB one conversation.

643
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: But if they just continue to hold home like up

644
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: and down the field like they have, like with Derek Carr,

645
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to see him really pushing into

646
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: what we would want for Joe mix It, what we

647
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: would want for Austin Ekeler, Kenyan Drake and most of

648
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: the other guys. I mean, he'll probably be I guess

649
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: RB twelve best is kind of where I see him falling.

650
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: But it's hard for me to push him up really

651
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: into the I guess certain certainty for RB one ranks.

652
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is kind of a rhetorical question, but

653
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: why don't they throw him the football? You know? I mean,

654
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: I just I don't know the guy trained. He trained

655
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: with Julio Jones in terms of being a route runner,

656
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: like before the combine, I mean coming out with I think,

657
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: how like, what more do you need? I mean, if

658
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: Julio says that you got it, I mean, I don't know.

659
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 1: I don't want either sort of endorsements you need. I'll

660
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: take his word for it, right, I will too. I don't.

661
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: I just it boggles the mind. I don't understand it.

662
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: Um alright, So then Moody, what is the ceiling for

663
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs in this offense? Yeah? I have Rugs projected,

664
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: you know for around nine targets and eight hundred receiving

665
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: yards with six touchdowns. I think the ceiling is more

666
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: of like a wide receiver three like I even have

667
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: like Darren Waller still leading the team and targets. Uh,

668
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: you gotta look at history too. I'm like, you know,

669
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: since two thousand, I'm like, there's only been three twenty

670
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: one year old receivers you know who have had like

671
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: notable seasons. You know, you think back, you know, Keenan

672
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: Allen and Mike Evans and and Mariy Cooper. And I'm

673
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: like to to kind of reach those heights that those

674
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: receivers did. I'm like they average out like a hundred

675
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: nineteen targets like a months, like all three of them.

676
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: I just don't see Rugs, you know, getting the you know,

677
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: getting the volume. But I know we're, Chris, We're we're

678
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: kind of breaking down like Jacobs where I know he

679
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: mentioned about about Derek Carr. I think one thing that

680
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: a lot of people are forgetting about, like with the

681
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: with the Raiders going into last season. I know we've

682
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of news flow with this individual since

683
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: and but remember Antonio Brown was supposed to be the

684
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: number one receiver, so yeah, yeah, tell me about it.

685
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: So you know, you got Rugs coming in to to

686
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: to fill that role. And I think he can end

687
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: up being the you know, the Raiders version of type

688
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. You know, That's kind of how how I

689
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: see him. I just don't think the volume is going

690
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: to be there for him to kind of descent to

691
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: the heights of like an Alan Evans or Cooper is

692
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. Yeah, all right, I mean

693
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: so okay, so then that that put out there, then

694
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: I just keep this train rolling. Then, Chris, what is

695
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: this feeling for Darren Waller this year. Can he can

696
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: he do or duplicate what he did last year? I

697
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: think so, And I think that where he's priced right

698
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: now in terms of being that tight end five, like

699
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: tight end six, I think it's fair now. I know

700
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: there was a lot of consternation, like within the fantasy community,

701
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: like once Hunter Renfrow became a larger part of the offense,

702
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: he was the one that was taking a lot of

703
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: those targets away from Darren Waller, making at least at

704
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: least from like qualitatively or just getting the feel like

705
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: around around the Twitter verse, like around those last like

706
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: like weeks thirteen through seventeen or towards the back end

707
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: of the season, it was, I mean, where are those

708
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns that we want from Darren Waller If it's not Hunter,

709
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: if it's not Hunter Renfrow, it's Foster Moreau. Uh, are

710
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: the ones that are taking those targets of those touchdowns?

711
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: But in the first, like first six weeks of the season,

712
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: Darren Waller had a twenty target share within that offense.

713
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean those are like wide receiver one like type

714
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: type target shares. But even once Hunter Renfro came back,

715
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: I mean through weeks thirteen through seventeen he dropped down

716
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: to so instead of Odell Beckham, you're getting dj more

717
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: level like target shares. I mean that's still like fairly,

718
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean that's really impressive, like for for a tight end.

719
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: So do I think that's still a part of how

720
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: they want to operate in Absolutely? I mean they It's

721
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: not like they brought in another tight end in order

722
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: to replace Darren Waller. And even with the fact that

723
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: they added these other pass catchers, it's only so many

724
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: people that you can have on the field at one time.

725
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: So even if they want to have like a number

726
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: of like three wide receiver sets, okay, fine, uh do

727
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: it like like Eric had just pointed out, I mean,

728
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs can only take up so much. We only

729
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: expect so much how to tyroll Williams Hunter Renfer will

730
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: still get his And Josh Jacobs, I mean that he

731
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: can only catch like so many passes as what little

732
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: as we expect, And the same thing for Lynn Bowden,

733
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Richard. I mean, there's there's only so much that

734
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: can go around on the field at any one time.

735
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 1: I still think that Darren Waller week in and week

736
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: out can give you at least a stable floor with

737
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: that upside, I think that he should have some of

738
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: that t D like positive regression that can wind up

739
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: actually keeping him at that tight end five area like

740
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: with I guess some room to actually move into you know,

741
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: tight end four like depending on how the season goes. Yeah,

742
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's my fear is that, you know,

743
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: I want I think I feel like they need to

744
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: touchdown numbers to come up. Just I'm not sure that

745
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: the catch numbers target numbers are going to be the

746
00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: same for um alright round of the division by coming

747
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: coming here just down the street pretty much from where

748
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: I am, the l A Chargers, who they actually maybe

749
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: announcement that the new Sophi Stadium is going to have

750
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: limited or no fans, so you can insert the joke

751
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: about the Chargers not having any fans anyway, it's right there.

752
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I feel like I had to

753
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: just get that one out of the way. You know,

754
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: where a fish I would have thrown it back anyway.

755
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: Um uh, I mean, Moody White, why is it Tyrod

756
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: Taylor getting more love? Like we I feel like we've

757
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: seen the splits and like, you know, the comparisons aside

758
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: by sides to him and Josh Allen and the numbers. Uh,

759
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: we're generally pretty similar between the two of them, but

760
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: Tyron is not. I mean, he's not getting drafted in

761
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: a lot of places. Is it? Is it just fear

762
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: of Justin Herbert? Why why Tyrod's not getting more love

763
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? I think it's a couple of different reasons.

764
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: For one, Uh, you know, a lot of obviously a

765
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: lot of casual kind of fantasy players are always kind

766
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: of looking back through the rear view mirror instead of

767
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: looking ahead, and so they think that, man, you know,

768
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: the last time that Tyrod you know, got you know,

769
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: meaningful snaps and was the bill starter. I'm like, oh,

770
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: that dude only average two passing yards per game, you know,

771
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: you look back from seen They're like, I don't want

772
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: anything to do with that. But you have to think

773
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: about too, Like the context is important. What were the

774
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: bills asking Tyrod to do? Then? I'm like they were

775
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: feeding you know, the Shawan McCoy, you know, he averaged

776
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: a high number you know, of touches per game, and

777
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: they were just kind of asking Tyrod to kind of

778
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: control the offense, and you take into account like his uh,

779
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: his rushing ability to and so it may be a

780
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: little bit like you mentioned Marcus about fear of Justin Herbert,

781
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: you know, coming in, you know, sooner rather than later.

782
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: But I think Tyrod is like a really good value,

783
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: especially if you're in two quarterback leagues or or super flex.

784
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: You know it's a QB three. You know, he's relatively cheap. Uh.

785
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: So he's a guy I have no problem picking up,

786
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, if he's available in there. Um, Chris, how

787
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: worried are you about Keenan Allen? And I guess by

788
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: extension a lot of the other past catchers, whether it

789
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: Touns are Henry or who you know, Mike Williams, remember else,

790
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: but specifically Keenan Allen. I mean, are you concerned about

791
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: him this year? No? Not really. I mean I can

792
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: understand that, especially with the wide receiver position being so

793
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: deep and especially at his given a DP. There are

794
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: some other uh there's some other players in his range

795
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: that might have some more upside, But Keenan Allen by himself,

796
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: I mean target share the past few seasons, I mean,

797
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: nothing about his situation has really changed, at least in

798
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: terms of this competition for targets, I mean, we can

799
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: assume that Hunter Henry now will be around for a

800
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: few more games like this season. But other than that,

801
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm really not all too concerned about like Keenan Allen

802
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: like by himself now, how he connects with Tyrod Taylor

803
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: and how they need to, like I guess, bring along

804
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: their rapport a little bit more over this offseason that

805
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: I can see as legitimate I guess concerned otherwise, I mean,

806
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: I think that given his like opportunity within that offense,

807
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: even if their market share or even if they're total

808
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: team volume starts to drop because they did have I

809
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: believe it was either the second or third highest like

810
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: neutral passing rate like in twenty nineteen, even if that drops,

811
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: and let's say with Tyrod Taylor because he is a

812
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: hybrid quarterback and then he starts to rush a little

813
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: bit more, taking away from the total team's value, I

814
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: think that still that Keenan should still have twenty plus

815
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: percent target share within an offense, making him a value

816
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: especially where he lies, like in terms of a DP.

817
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I get that he's what I mean, getting

818
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: up there in terms of getting up there in terms

819
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: of age, but still I mean the routes that he runs,

820
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean he's still able to create separation. He still

821
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: has one of the best hands in the league, so

822
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: I would still be able to if I can get

823
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: him at value, I'll take him. All right. Uh, we're

824
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: new some some either wards a little bit later. But

825
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna oppose one to you guys, both of you

826
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: guys right now. Who you got behind a sneckler, Justin

827
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 1: Jackson or Joshua Kelly? Which one would you guys rather have? Yeah,

828
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: I'll I'll tackle it first. Chris, you know, no pun

829
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: intending you know there's a football I would say, I'm

830
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: on team Kelly. I'm like, you look back at his

831
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: collegiate you know, body of work. I'm like, you know

832
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: he's only the eighth running back and you see a

833
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: history to have consecutive seasons with a thousand and more

834
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: rushing yards. What I like about him on the film,

835
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, he's very physical, you know, downhill runner who's

836
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: great in between the tackles, who I could see stealing.

837
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, he can end up stealing like gold line

838
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: work from Austin Ekeler. And one thing about Equila, I

839
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: know everyone you know, loved the production last year. You know,

840
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: he's great, etcetera, etcetera. But I would say, man, and

841
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: he is. You know, I would say one thing though

842
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: that Uh what's interesting is that if you look at

843
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 1: like yards created per game, I'm like, among running backs,

844
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: he ranked you know, thirty four, and like his contract,

845
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 1: which is great. Hey, I'm I'm always happy to see

846
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: a running back get paid, right, But his contract doesn't

847
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: suggest like bell cal usage. It suggests more of a

848
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: committee to me. And so that was even more confirmed

849
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: with uh, you know what their selection of you know, Kelly,

850
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: you know in this year's draft, So I know Kelly

851
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: is a running back I'm aggressively targeting in fantasy drafts,

852
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: like as an upside like RB four. If Ekeler did

853
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: mis extended time, I'm like, You're you're looking at someone

854
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: that has RB one upside that you got on the cheap.

855
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: So hey, team Kelly. Yeah, I would echo a lot

856
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 1: of what Eric just said and just the way that

857
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: l A like ran their offense, like within the first

858
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: few weeks, especially with Melvin Gordon like still doing his holdout. Uh,

859
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: justin Jackson, he got like a forty percent opportunity shared

860
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: just within the red zone. So like the way that

861
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: the Chargers still wanted to operate was not with just

862
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: giving Austin Ekeler like all the touches I mean, but

863
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: those money touches, the ones that especially for fantasy purposes,

864
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: of the ones that we want, I mean, they were

865
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: still fine trying to distribute some of those to the

866
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: other backs. And Justin Jackson I mean for I mean,

867
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: to his credit, he was able to perform well, but

868
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean that's what the second season in the road

869
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: that he's wound up with some injury concerns, So I

870
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: can I can definitely see him like being the one

871
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: that they turned to, I guess at the beginning of

872
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: the season, but with the with Kelly's a collegiate body

873
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: of work, I can see him taking over towards the

874
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: towards the middle and end of the season. And he's

875
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: another guy that I'm also trying to target towards the

876
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: end of drafts as well, just for that upside, all right,

877
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: All right? Cool? So that takes us through our big

878
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: questions around the division. Now we do some some what

879
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: I'm calling the a f C West superlatives. Generally some

880
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: of the best or potentially worst of the divisions We'll

881
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: start with when it comes to quarterback, I mean, I

882
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: don't think there's gonna be any argument that Patrick Mahomes

883
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: is the top quarterback in the a f C West,

884
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,959
Speaker 1: arguably the top quarterback and all the fantasy Uh So, Chris,

885
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: starting with you, and and and Eric, you can follow up,

886
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: who do you think will be the number two scoring

887
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: fans see quarterback coming out of this division? Uh To

888
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: be honest, I could honestly see Tyrod coming out as

889
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: the number two. I do have some reservations about like

890
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: what Derek Carr is gonna wind up doing even with

891
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: the addition of those past catchers. And I mean that's

892
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: that's neither here nor there. But I think given like Tyrod,

893
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: I mean, he has like he has a wonderful deep ball.

894
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: His deep ball completion rate has actually been fairly impressive

895
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: over the past couple of seasons when they actually have

896
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: turned him loose. And also we just talked about the

897
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: fact that he does have access to that hashtag economic

898
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 1: code that would wind up winning you some of your weeks.

899
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: So I still think that's a part of his game

900
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: and what they can utilize so they can continue to

901
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: at least, you know, keep him, like keep him in

902
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: those neutral or positive game scripts where he's able to

903
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: actually like keep the game in front of him versus

904
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: having them trail or whatever. And they definitely have the

905
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: defense that will that will be conducive to that. I mean,

906
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: assuming that. Please, I'm hoping they all stay healthy, but

907
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: they still they definitely have the personnel to actually, guess

908
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: to allow him to operate the way that he's operated

909
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: best when he was with the Bills, That's the way

910
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: that they operated, and he was able to actually put

911
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: up a lot of great numbers like while he was there.

912
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: So I think that in a perfect world, I think

913
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: Tyrod would wind up being the second one to come

914
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: out of that division. All Right, you can double that

915
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: on that movie, or you got somebody else. Yeah, I

916
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 1: do have someone else. I'll go with Derek Carr. I'm like,

917
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, he finished last season ranked seven with the

918
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: true passer rating of one of six, So I'm like,

919
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: that's a quarterback rating that essentially factors out like unpressured

920
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: throw aways and drop passes, and as I mentioned earlier

921
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: of like you know, he was supposed to go in

922
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: the last season within Tonio Brown likes his number one guy,

923
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: and so I think the biggest area and Chris alluded

924
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: to this earlier on the previous question, was that the

925
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: biggest area where Ruggs can assist is with the downfield passing.

926
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: I know Car didn't look great if you look at

927
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: all the advanced metrics around the downfield passing. So you know,

928
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: you look at him. We talked about Waller. You know,

929
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: he's got Tyrelle Williams too, that's better suited as like

930
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: a number two and not a number one. Uh So

931
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: he's got Waller tight end and he's got Williams and

932
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: he's got Ruggs. Is his uh what should we call him?

933
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: What Tyreek hill light or that sound waity? Is that good?

934
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: So I just think a Car, I'm like, he's you know,

935
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: criminally underrated, uh in draft and I'm like, he's he's

936
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: dirt cheap. But I think it's in the realm of

937
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: possibilities that again, once the dust settled in twenty that

938
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: we look at like Derek Carr like is like a

939
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: low end QB one just given his body of work.

940
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: All right, Um, so stay with you, Moody, then, who

941
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: is your top scoring running back out of the a

942
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: f C West. Is it as simple as Austin Neckler

943
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: is there? You know, maybe somebody else? Yeah, I would

944
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: end up going with going with Austin Ekeler. Uh, you know,

945
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: he'll be provided a high number of touches you esessially

946
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: with having ty Rod as the starter been you know,

947
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: the guy was just very effective last season. I'm like,

948
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: if you look at like Fantasy points per opportunity, I'm

949
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: like the average like one point to nine. I'm like

950
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: that was really the highest among running back seeing like

951
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: significant volume, and so I think he'll pick up where

952
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: he left off last season and he will finish as

953
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: the top scoring running back in the a f C West.

954
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, you have the same, Chris or is

955
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: there somebody else maybe? I mean, I'm I'm praying that

956
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: it's Damien Williams. Let let's let it happen. Man, Just

957
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: just please let it happened. But otherwise I have to

958
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: echo what Eric was saying that that I mean, given

959
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: given his opportunity to share within that offense. I mean,

960
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I know we were just talking about the fact that

961
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: they're most likely gonna want up revolving everything around a

962
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: committee base. But still I do think that given where

963
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: or how the Chargers want to operate, Ekeler has the

964
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: best path to doing that, all right, biggest a f

965
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: C West Sleeper or more than one uh sleepers, Chris,

966
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: you can start. I don't know if I mean sleeper,

967
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, I have mine, but I would say,

968
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: like the one the one guy that I do think

969
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: a lot of folks are I guess overlooking is Mike Williams.

970
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: Like with with the Chargers, I know that with the

971
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: loss of Philip Rivers, I mean the the guess the

972
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: amount of yolo balls like probably won't be as as many,

973
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: and I can completely understand that. But again I go

974
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: back to this idea that I mean Tyrod Taylor like

975
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: by himself like he is not a bad deep deep

976
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: all pastor, as I've mentioned earlier, So I still think

977
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: that given the given his opportunity share within that offense

978
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: I mean Keenan Allen like his like the way that

979
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: the routes that he runs his A DOT does not

980
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: overlap with what Mike Williams does or can do within

981
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: that offense. So I can still think that him ascending

982
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: and actually being able a little bit more healthier. Also,

983
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: this season will be more conducive to him being one

984
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: of those guys that we look back on the season

985
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: and just like, Okay, I get it, but I just

986
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: didn't see it coming, got it, Eric, you got Yeah,

987
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: I'll go back to uh, Micole Hardman. Uh, you know,

988
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: just with the limited opportunities last year, I'm like with

989
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, a guy that's averaging twenty one yards per perception,

990
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: It's it's tough for me to kind of turn away

991
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: from that. Uh. You know, he's just an inexpensive piece,

992
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL.

993
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, just kind of seeing him

994
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: out there, you know, in drafts, I'm like, hey, I'll

995
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: go ahead and scoop him up. You know, it's my

996
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver four, wide receiver five. You know, God forbid

997
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: if something does happen like to Tyree Hill where he

998
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: does miss significant time, I'm like, you've got a plug

999
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: and play like wide receiver one again that you've got

1000
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: on the cheap. So but I think he'll be more

1001
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: productive than U then people think, even giving the low

1002
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: target volume, it's uh, I guess if you look back again,

1003
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: kind of always look from that two thousand to time frame.

1004
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: It's rare for receivers to kind of have those monster

1005
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: seasons with giving you know, of having limited target share.

1006
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 1: Is that I would say, But even if Hardman gets

1007
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: eighty to ninety, I think he could surprise people, and

1008
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: it's mainly because he's tethered to uh, you know, my homes. Now,

1009
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: quick side note, Marcus. Now what's funny is that whenever

1010
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: I found myself using like the like the word like

1011
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: tethered ever since I saw Jordan peels us like brained, like,

1012
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: it's in my vocabulary now. So I'm just just laying

1013
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: But Mchiel Hardman for me? Wow? So should we stop

1014
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: calling him like you know, stacks and handcuffs, you just

1015
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: call man? That's wild? Um alright, So then Moody, then

1016
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: who do you have as maybe one of your most

1017
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: overdrafted guys coming out of the a f C was Yeah,

1018
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: I just had a had a had a visit for

1019
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: mama my son. Noah, real, it just gotta popped in.

1020
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: But let me I'll go ahead and answer that question. Alright,

1021
00:47:55,880 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: So most overdrafted player, right, yeah, sorry about that, gentleman.

1022
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'd say for for me it's uh.

1023
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: I would say it's Josh Jacob's uh. I know, Chris

1024
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 1: hit on a lot of uh. You know, a lot

1025
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: of points earlier, you know about Jacobs so and it's

1026
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of disappointing because I'm like, he's ridiculously talented, you know,

1027
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: he's athletically gifted. I'm like, he does deserve more passing work.

1028
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: But when they you know, drafted a Bowden, you know,

1029
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: and then they resigned like Jalen Richard, there's just not

1030
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna be as many targets going around. Like it's crazy

1031
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: that a guy like that got a little bit under

1032
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: thirty targets like last year, you know, given what he

1033
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: can do in space and as a receiver. But I

1034
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: just think John Bruden, you know, as the head coach,

1035
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's unlikely to you know, become a reality

1036
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: where he's gonna get enough volume to kind of finish

1037
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: like as a top five guy. So just unfortunately, like

1038
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: he's being overdrafted. You look at his ADP. I just

1039
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be able to give everyone that

1040
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: return like on investment that people are expecting, right right,

1041
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: all right, Chris, who are you looking at at least

1042
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: for me, it's probably Clyde Edwards Hilaire. I mean, if

1043
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: you're looking at the back end of the second round,

1044
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean where you see him typically being drafted in

1045
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: a lot of leagues, it's hard for me to pass

1046
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: up a lot of the guys that that are typically

1047
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: going around him. I mean we're talking, uh, top end

1048
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Uh, we're I mean we're looking at me,

1049
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin, Mike Evans. I mean even I mean if you,

1050
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier, if you want to

1051
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 1: swing for those fences and get like Lamar Jackson, Patrick

1052
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes around that area. I mean, there are a lot

1053
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: of those guys where one we've already seen it done.

1054
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean again, that's that's looking at things in the

1055
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: rear view mirror and not really projecting into But at

1056
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: least for most of them, we have at least some

1057
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: sense of certainty regarding their outlook, either when it comes

1058
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: to volume, targets or whatever. With Clyde Edwards Hilaire, I

1059
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: guess I'm still too much. I'm stuck too much on

1060
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: what Damian Williams can do it when he's healthy and

1061
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: where he's at, Like I guess his I guess um

1062
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: his utility for the team that he's on right now,

1063
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: and for me to come in and summarily say that,

1064
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, c h is gonna wind up with a

1065
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: significant touch here, which you really need in order to

1066
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: pay off like a second round ADP. It's hard for

1067
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: me to see that happening, even even with him being

1068
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: tethered now I'm stuck saying it than being like tethered

1069
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: to a Patrick Mahomes. It's hard for me for him,

1070
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: for me to see him paying off that draft cost.

1071
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: I mean, with the other guys that are already from

1072
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: the Kansasy Chiefs are already being drafted basically around him,

1073
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey has picked what a round ahead of him,

1074
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill is probably like ten or so picks ahead

1075
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: him as well. I mean, we're expecting all three of

1076
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,240
Speaker 1: those guys not to even mention Nicole Harden, Sammy Watkins

1077
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: and as other guys were not, I mean, not even

1078
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 1: mentioning those guys were respecting all of them to wind

1079
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: up paying off their draft cost. And if I had

1080
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: to pick one of those guys out of those three

1081
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: within the first picks to not meet their draft ADP,

1082
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: to me, it's Clyde Verance Hilaire. All right, um cool,

1083
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: So let's we're around us out with some either oars.

1084
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: These are all just quick hitters. I'll give you, you you know,

1085
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: two guys or to two things. You pick one. You

1086
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: could use whatever criteria you like, So just pick one

1087
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: and just a couple of quick words. Don't have to

1088
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: go in depth. Uh. I was gonna go Derek carror

1089
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor here, but I feel like you guys have

1090
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: sort of answered that over the course of our conversation,

1091
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna call it audible and switch it up. Um,

1092
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: So here we go. Uh, you guys both did and Moody.

1093
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: You start this one. Um, Damian Williams or Philip lindsay, Yeah,

1094
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with go with Williams, just with the offense.

1095
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: You know, I just want an inexpensive piece of that offense.

1096
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: If I don't get Kelsey or hell So Williams. Uh

1097
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: same Chris or different? Should have been the Super Bowl MDP.

1098
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: I'll just go and throw that out there. Alright. Alright, Chris,

1099
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: you start this one. H Henry Ruggs or Jerry Judy.

1100
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: I would say, Henry Ruggs, I do have a little

1101
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: bit more optimism around Derek Carr than I do Drew Lock.

1102
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: So I will I will lean Henry Ruggs. All right,

1103
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: Uh Eric, Yeah, I would agree. I went and end

1104
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: up going with going with Ruggs. You know, I'm a

1105
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, born and raised in Alabama, you know, roll Tide.

1106
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: I got a soft I've got a soft spot in

1107
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: my heart for Alabama receivers. So Rugs or as we

1108
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: call him, discount tyreek kill there you go. Um all right?

1109
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: Uh Eric, grape or strawberry. You know, give me strawberry anything.

1110
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: It could be soda, it could be cake fruit itself.

1111
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: And I have this conversation with my h you know,

1112
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: my son Noah all the time because he loves grapes

1113
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: and he loves strawberries. I was like, Son, you know,

1114
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: grapes are not as superior as strawberries. Strawberries over grapes.

1115
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: So you know, just saying strawberries, uh, Chris, grape or strawberry.

1116
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: I mean I've I've actually, I guess, as to go

1117
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: back to what we were talking about, the very beginning

1118
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: of the show, I've actually brewed with strawberries. So I

1119
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: guess I will have to also like Lena, I've actually

1120
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: uh put strawberries like in the beer or like extracted

1121
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: some of the juice and done it that way. And

1122
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: I have I must admit, like having a strawberry flavored

1123
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: like beer is actually pretty dagone good. So yeah, strawberry,

1124
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,720
Speaker 1: I know I can buy that. I just it always

1125
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: bothers me. This, this whole story about Tom Brady saying

1126
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 1: he's never eaten a strawberry. And I could do this

1127
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: forty three years old, forty two, forty three years old,

1128
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: and I say, this is somebody like I know where

1129
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: he grew up in the Bay Area. The town he

1130
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: grew up in, like literally an hour south of where

1131
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: he grew up, is the city of Watsonville that has

1132
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: a world famous strawberry festival. And I'm like, you're telling

1133
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: me you grew up an hour from a town and

1134
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: has a strawberry festival and you've never had a strawberry? Like,

1135
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 1: what kind of sociopath are you? Like, I don't understand. Honest,

1136
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: that's probably like the least weird thing about him. You know,

1137
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: you're probably right, You're probably right, all right? The last

1138
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,959
Speaker 1: one here, Chris, if you could choose between the power

1139
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: of flight or the power of invisibility where you're gone

1140
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: flight easy, I mean I don't. I mean just the

1141
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: sheer convenience factor of the fact that I don't even

1142
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: have to I don't have to get in my car.

1143
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you just tell me I can just go

1144
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: outside and then I'm just I want to go down

1145
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: and see the in laws down in Georgia. Be there

1146
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: in a few minutes. Or I need to go to

1147
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: the store. I need to go over the mall and

1148
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: pick something up, be right back. I mean, you know

1149
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: how much like see this is? This is now? You know,

1150
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm pete Dad, like right now because all

1151
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: the gas money savings I can now get, like by

1152
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: having to be able to fly instead of driving my

1153
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: car everywhere I get out of here. I'll take that

1154
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: all day, all right, Moody, Flight or invisibility? You know,

1155
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: I probably put too much thought into this question. You

1156
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: know it's thinking. I was like if I say like

1157
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: invisibility and they think, what do you want to do

1158
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: just spy on people? Mooding like, hey, what's up with that?

1159
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: But I do agree with Chris. But like with flight,

1160
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: you know would be you know, it would be great.

1161
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: You know, just to be able to you know, hey,

1162
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: fly back to Alabama or New Orleans, you know where

1163
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: I lived, or you know, just anywhere in the you know,

1164
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: the Dallas Fort Worthay area. So it would be good.

1165
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: But then again, you know, since we're all you know,

1166
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: fantasy football animals here, you know, I got to thinking, right,

1167
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, I got to think, and I was like,

1168
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: you know what, so I'll be able to fly, like

1169
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: what a thousand miles per hour? What's gonna happen? I

1170
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: don't have any other superpowers. I'm not Superman. What if

1171
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: I get hit by something? Never, I'm fine. Now you

1172
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: know so many you know I'm taking it to another level.

1173
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, Marcus, I'm just gonna go

1174
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: with flights. It's funny because I've always sayed invisibility, but

1175
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: not because I want to like sneak around and do things.

1176
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: It's just more than like, you know, those times when

1177
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: you just don't want to be bothered, you can just

1178
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: be like people are looking to ask you to do

1179
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: things that you don't want to do. You're just like invisible,

1180
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, you must not be here, and

1181
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: then they go ask somebody else to do it. There. Um,

1182
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys coming on. I've enjoyed the conversation.

1183
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: It's been a whole lot of fun, uh for people

1184
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: who don't know what you're doing or where you are.

1185
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: Chris start Where where can people find your work? Right now? Um? Okay?

1186
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: Where can they find my work? All right? So I

1187
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: like to tell people that I'm collecting websites like Infinity Stones.

1188
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: I happen to have quite a few, but you can

1189
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: primarily find my work over at four for four. But

1190
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm also contributing over at Dynasty League Football Football guys,

1191
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: uh number fire like once the season gets rolling. And

1192
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: of course I've got my podcasts with my buddy Adam,

1193
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: will do you like doing the Dinasty Rtors Manual podcast?

1194
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: So you can find me literally at any one of

1195
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: those websites. Plus, if you want to come yell at

1196
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: me for for for any of the takes that I've

1197
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: put on here on this podcast, you can find me

1198
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: at Chris Allen f w X cool uh moody. Where

1199
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: can folks find you? Yeah? I would say the main

1200
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: website where you can find me would be, uh, of

1201
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: course over at four for four. You know, generated a

1202
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: ton of content there, uh, this offseason and more to come,

1203
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, for the rest of July, in August, and

1204
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: of course at the Athletic Fantasy. You know, I've got

1205
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: some some pieces that will end up getting published within

1206
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: the next week or so. And also over at Fantasy Data,

1207
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: and so you know, if you want to chat, you know,

1208
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm always open to a Twitter conversation. You can find

1209
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 1: me at Eric in Moody. The end stands for Nicholas

1210
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: my middle name. Unfortunately at Eric Moody's already taken. But

1211
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: again that's a whole another conversation, so you could you

1212
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: could find my work there. But hey, I'm always open

1213
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: to chat about fantasy, So reach out. You know you

1214
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 1: won't be disappointed. But thanks again and Marcus for the

1215
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: for the invite. It's been a blast. Yeah, no, I appreciate.

1216
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: I definitely appreciate you guys coming on. Uh, and then

1217
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give my own some sort of shameless self

1218
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: promotion here sign up. Sign ups are open for the

1219
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: game at NFL Fantasy. You can go to Fantasy dot

1220
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: nfl dot com. Sign up starts your league, regenerate your

1221
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: league in case you have one there in the past,

1222
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: So jump on board, and uh, you know, it's get

1223
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: ready to play because it looks like training camp is

1224
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: going to happen. We're keeping our fingers crossed so that

1225
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: means we're getting closer to a season, which means we're

1226
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: getting closer to a fantasy football season. So there you go.

1227
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: That is it. We are done. We appreciate you listening

1228
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: and downloading and watching our video clips as well. You

1229
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: know the drill. Tell two friends to tell two friends

1230
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: rate review and remember stupid as when you spend eighteen

1231
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: hours trying to drown a fish the care of yourselves,

1232
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: wear a mask and we will see you next week