1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, A production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, Hello and Happy Friday and Holly Fry and 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy V. 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: Wilson. 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: We talked about Helen Blanchard and sewing this week. Yeah, 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: she made my little heart happy. And also while I 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: was researching this, I got super nostalgic about sewing things 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: over the years. One of the things I wanted to mention, 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: because we talked about it somewhat in the show, was searchers. 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: And like, we didn't. 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Specify in this in the course of the show, but 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: like she uses the term overlock sometimes when she's referring 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: to a zigzag stitch because it overlocks the edge of 14 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: the fabric. But today an overlock machine is a searcher, right. 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: But it made me wistful for when the idea of 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: having a surger in your home was a brand new concept. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: And the first home model of searger was the Babylock 18 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: EF two five, and that came out in nineteen sixty eight, 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: which is before I was born. 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: But I remember. 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: So distinctly when I was about nine or ten, and 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: I had really started in earnest to read my mother's 23 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: copies of threads magazine, and there was an ad in 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: the back of one of them for a babylock searger, 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: just the description of how it would sow your seam 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: and trim away the excess fabrics simultaneously. To me, a 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: stitching kid sounded about as thrilling and drool and inducing, 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: as like if an ad for ice cream Sundays. I 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: was just like, we need this, we need to buy that, 30 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: and my mom was just like, no. To be clear, 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: they were very expensive at that point. Yeah, like now 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: you can get a pretty good overlock for home use 33 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: for a couple hundred bucks, but at the time you 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: were looking at probably over one thousand dollars in the 35 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy so late. It was a lot of money. 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: But I wanted one so bad. I mean I harangued 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: my parents. They did eventually get one, but not until 38 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: I was a fully grown adult, right, because here is 39 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: why I got a searger. Okay, my mom got a 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: surger when I was a teenager, so I used hers. 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: But then when I got to college, I sewed in 42 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: the costume shop at the theater there at school because 43 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: my work study job was there in the costume shop, 44 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: which was great. But then when I graduated from college 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: and I got my first job job. There was a 46 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: little problem, which was that I did not have job. 47 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: Job closed. Oh sure, and I was poor as dirt. 48 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: So for the first two weeks that I worked as 49 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: a receptionist in a hair salon, every night when I 50 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: got home from work, I would sew my outfit for 51 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: the next day. Wow. And then that's how I built 52 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: up my professional wardrobe. And my parents were like, I 53 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: don't remember if it fell around my birthday or a 54 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: Christmas or something, but they got me a surger kind 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: of as all of that was happening, because they were 56 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: just like, oh, dear Lord, because I needed clothes. Yeah. 57 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: I had that surger for exactly how long do you think? 58 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: Forty years? 59 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: Thirty? 60 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Okay, because last year it made me a lot of clothes. 61 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: And last year, early in the year, I just did 62 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: a thing that I think was mathematically impossible. You would 63 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: have been if I had gotten it when I was 64 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: a teenager thirteen. 65 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 2: I turned it on. 66 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: It had been you know, declining, I knew, and I 67 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: turned it on and I hit the pedal and instead 68 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: of stitches coming out, smoke came out. Oh no, And 69 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I was like, this is a thirty year old searcher. 70 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: No one's gonna want to fix this. Like the one 71 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: of the needle hooks was a little bit bent. 72 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: I was just like, go with god. Search. Yeah. 73 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: The sewing machine that I have is probably about that old. 74 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: At least it has to be a little older than that. 75 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: My mom had a singer, one of those like metal bodied, 76 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: very sturdy singers, which is what I learned to sew on. 77 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: And at the time she was doing a lot of 78 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: sewing and a lot of crafts, and she got an 79 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: Elma Nice, which had little cartridges that could do all 80 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: kinds of little fancy stitches. Yeah, And so she gave 81 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: me the singer and she worked on the Elna. And 82 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: then as I got to the age of like moving 83 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: out on my own, she wasn't really sewing anymore, and 84 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: so we traded sewing machines so that she had the 85 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: singer and that she or my dad would use to 86 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: do stuff like so my brother's boy Scout patches on, 87 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: and then I had this Elena. I still have the 88 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: Elna and it still does get some use, like it 89 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: needs a tune up at this point and the figuring 90 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: out of like where can I take an Elna that's 91 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: thirty five years old to get it tuned up. Is 92 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: its own thing, and at this point it is mostly 93 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 1: being used to like repair things like Patrick Sew's patches 94 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: onto things that he wears at the game conventions that 95 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: he works at and stuff. So it's not getting a 96 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: ton of use. But it does still work and can 97 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: do a number of fancy stitches. I say fancy, and 98 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: that they are just not straight line chained wages, the 99 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: kinds of things that Blanchard was working on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: I still love sewing. I still sew quite a bit, 101 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: not as much as I used to lately just because 102 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: I've been too busy. But I have a situation brewing 103 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: in the sewing room which is like I need to 104 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: start working through the fabric because we're reaching like a 105 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: hoarding level of giant towers of fabric. 106 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: Oh shab yeah, me, don't work on. 107 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: Also, I'm using my platform for personal benefit. Maybe in 108 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: thinking about those old Dreads magazines and my mother's various 109 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: stitching magazines, I had a flashback to what has become 110 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of a white whale for me. One year, 111 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: in one of those magazines, I thought it was threads, 112 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: but I'm not confident so any of my stitchers in 113 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: the crowd. You know a lot about old sewing magazines. 114 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: There was probably around nineteen eighty or eighty one a 115 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: how to thing one year at Christmas that was two 116 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: tiny plush koalas and their entire Christmas wardrobe and their 117 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: little tiny Duffel bags you could put their wardrobes in. 118 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: And I was discussed with it, and I would love 119 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: to find a copy of it again. I have searched 120 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: and searched and have not found it. YEA, if you 121 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: happen to be that one person who's like, oh, I 122 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: know what that is, give me a yill, because that 123 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: would be amazing. I could talk about sewing forever. 124 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 125 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: I feel like there have been big moments in my 126 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: life that I associate with what I was sewing at 127 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: the time. Like my senior year of high school. I 128 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: sewed a lot before that. I made a lot of 129 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: my clothes for school, but my senior year I just 130 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: decided I wanted to make all retro and vintage fashions 131 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: for my school warde that year. And what was probably 132 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: the one time my mother ever showed me a ton 133 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: of trust. She gave me her credit card and let 134 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: me go to the fabric store and just pick out 135 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: whatever I wanted or needed for that. Oh wow, that's cool. 136 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: And I did, and I stitched up all that stuff, 137 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: and I wore a lot of fifties clothes that year. 138 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: I love it was very weird in nineteen eighty nine. 139 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm into it though, but it was also coming off 140 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: of me doing a lot of like very sort of 141 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: more punk referencing wardrobe. So one, I think my parents 142 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: were probably happy that. They were like, you want a 143 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: plaid pinafore? 144 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:36,959 Speaker 2: What is this about? 145 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: But what they didn't realize is like those could easily 146 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 1: be styled in your direction. Yeah, I had a great time. 147 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: I love those. 148 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: I still think about those clothes and how much I 149 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: loved them. Yeah, that's one of the big times. I 150 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: had a pretty good wardrobe that year. I just sew 151 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: a lot. Anyway, I told you while I was working 152 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: on this that I had something funny to tell you. 153 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wasn't sure if your funny thing was 154 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: about your episode or about my episode. No, it's about mine, okay, Tracy, Yes, 155 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: the curse continues. 156 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 2: What is it? 157 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: Because right after Blanchard in Notable Women Encyclopedias comes Helen Blovotsky. 158 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: She jump scaring me every time I opened something that's 159 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: so funny, didn't even think about it. Was like looking 160 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: at one of these encyclopedias that I have like a 161 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: physical copy of, and in. 162 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 2: Bold are the words Hellen Blovotsky. 163 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: I was a guy there jumping out so funny I 164 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: almost dropped the book. 165 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 2: I was like both startled and laughing at the same time. 166 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: I love it. 167 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: It's like, good, I'm ready for a poltergeist experience to 168 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: happen at my house and it will be Madam Blovotsky 169 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: walk in. 170 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 2: The door being like, why are you try to shocking me? 171 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: What is going on? 172 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: He to at the top of the stairs. Yeah, I'm ready, 173 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm ready. I feel like she's the curse of all 174 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: of my research. Yeah, if she comes up, no matter 175 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: what I'm looking at, it'll be like some weird licorice 176 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: made in the eighteen hundreds, and it will be like 177 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: this was Helen Blelovotski's favorite candy. Like there's no way 178 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: to mistave her. She keeps arriving. 179 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: Anyway. Funny. 180 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: That is my curse, which I'm actually fine with. I 181 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: think she'd be quite interesting if I've ever met her ghost. 182 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm down with it. Come on, Helen, come on, we 183 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: canna hang out. Helen and Madame Blelovotsky and I are 184 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: gonna sew out ghost outfits together. It's gonna be great. 185 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Our New Year's Day episode was about hangovers. Yes, indeed, Well, 186 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: let me tell you. Working on this episode gave me 187 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: a hangover talk about something I thought was going to 188 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: be easy that turned out to be ridiculously hard. I 189 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: did not know going into it that the word hangover 190 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: to mean the you know, the day after drinking feeling bad, 191 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: not knowing that that had not been coined until I 192 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: think nineteen oh four is what we said, nineteen oh four, 193 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: nineteen oh six, something like that. 194 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: Which meant I would not just be able. 195 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: To go into historical sources and put the word hangover 196 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: in there and come up with some kind of, you know, 197 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: delightful historical treatise on hangovers. I took all of these notes, 198 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: but then when I went through all the notes, I 199 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: was like, these notes are a mess. And then as 200 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: I was trying to make the notes into an episode, 201 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: I was like, this episode is a mess. And it 202 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: never felt like it was soup yet if that makes 203 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: sense in the context of this. And I finally got 204 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: to a point where I was like, this is the 205 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: length of an episodsode, and I'm not fully satisfied with 206 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: where it has arrived, but it's not going to get 207 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: any better. So it's things about about hangovers in history, 208 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: which I feel like kind of add up to a 209 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: fun assortment of stuff. Fun in some context, maybe not 210 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: in all of them, but not like the unified overview 211 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: of history that I thought it would be going into it, right, 212 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: because there isn't one. 213 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: No, it's really like the I mean, that's it. 214 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's delightful, but you are essentially 215 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: trying to make solid matter out of like clouds. 216 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, really true. 217 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: So there were two different books that I read that 218 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: is as part of this, and one of them was 219 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: the one we specifically mentioned, which was The Hangover, A 220 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: Literary and Cultural History, and the other was one that, 221 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: like I did not mention because I didn't ultimately end 222 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: up using any information from it at all, and both 223 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: of them were less concrete than I would have actually 224 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: found very helpful. The one that was The Hangover, A 225 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: Literary and Cultural History was really interesting, but I wound 226 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: up taking almost no notes from it. I think that 227 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: was where I where I learned about that. You and 228 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: I did a dramatic reading from that seventeenth century the 229 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: Contented Cuckold or a Woman's Advocate, like that is where 230 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: I first saw reference. 231 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 2: To that was in this book. 232 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I was like, wow, this is the multi 233 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: hundred page book that isn't really approaching the topic in 234 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: a way. 235 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's bad in any way. 236 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: Again, it was very interesting, but like it wasn't approaching 237 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: the topic in a way that led to productive research 238 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: for me doing on this topic. Right. I think part 239 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: of the problem there, right, is that any book that's 240 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of ostensibly tackling hangovers really becomes about drinking culture 241 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: more than science. 242 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is. 243 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: Just it's tricky because then you are doing exactly what 244 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: you know where we landed where it's like, okay, well, 245 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: so there's this apocryphal thing. 246 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: We might know about, yeah, oh hangovers. 247 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: And since it really seems like, at least based on 248 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: everything that I read, that it was kind of in 249 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: terms of Europe, it was the early modern period by 250 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: the time people were sort of thinking of this as 251 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: like a phenomenon that specifically follows drinking. 252 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: In a way that it was like it. 253 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: Was an entity now, not just writing to your sister, 254 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: to I drank wine last night and now I feel terrible. Anyway, 255 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: it was an episode that I went into thinking it 256 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: was going to be easy, and it turned out to 257 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: be very hard. You accidentally stumbled into a thing in 258 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: this episode that was on one of my lists that 259 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: I had thought would be an episode that was easy 260 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: and turned out to be very hard. Oh yeah, which 261 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: was I was going to do some years back, the 262 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: history of Brunchy other than that one article, which is 263 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: very charming. After that, it just then is like, and 264 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: then there were restaurants that started offering brunch, and I'm like, well, 265 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: bless the end of that story. 266 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: I buy eggs for nineteen dollars. 267 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, I do love brunch. I love brunch as well. 268 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: This made me think of so many things. One I 269 00:15:55,320 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: had a sudden flash too, if I'm remembering correctly, not 270 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: got the book at hand to look it up. PJ 271 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: or Roorke's Hangover Cure, which may disgusted you. 272 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: Probably some of them really do you to me? 273 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean this one isn't as disgusting as many other things. 274 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: I do think it's funny that I will drink a 275 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: flip without hesitation put the whole egg in my drink. 276 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: But I don't want the drink in Tabasco sauce or 277 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: the egg in Tabasco sauce, right, Like, I don't know 278 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: why if you mixed all of that with brandy, I'd. 279 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 2: Be like, oh, yeah, let's have that, but not just 280 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: the egg. 281 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: But no, his if I'm remember incorrectly, was to dump 282 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: an entire like one pound package of bacon into a 283 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: frying pan, cook the bacon, pull out the bacon, and 284 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: then you kind of poach your eggs in the bacon grease, 285 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: and then you eat the eggs and bacon, which to 286 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: me just sounds like a pretty yummy breakfast, although very 287 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: heavy and not super helpful. But yeah, I don't, I don't. Yeah, 288 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: I've never had to test it. That does seem a 289 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: little heavy. There's like the various hangover cures. I didn't 290 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: put this into the episode, but a lot of it 291 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: are things that just to me are inherently kind of 292 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: gross or extremely pungent. So like, I am definitely not 293 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: into a shot glass that has raw egg and Tabasco 294 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: sauce and Worcester sure in it, I'm like, no, thanks, 295 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: that does not sound like that sounds like it's gonna 296 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: make my situation worse. And while I do really like 297 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: pickled things and briny things, there are a number of 298 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: like pickled fish kind of things. Yes, like we talked 299 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: about with like the German hangover breakfast and some of 300 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: that like if I wake up in the morning and 301 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: I am not feeling good, U pickled herring is not 302 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: gonna make me feel any better, and so there some 303 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: of them are like is the goal here to make 304 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: you feel a lot worse and maybe even be sick, 305 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: and then maybe by comparison you might feel better. 306 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. 307 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I am one of those jerks 308 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: that is very lucky that doesn't get hangovers. Well, that 309 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 1: is amazing for it. It's unfair, I understand. Sometimes to 310 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: my husband's complete consternation and almost fear, we're on the 311 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: rare occasion because I love to drink. I don't like 312 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: to get drunk right and like, but there have certainly 313 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: been rare occasions where I have overindulged or I started 314 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: drinking when I didn't eat and got intoxicated, and he's 315 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: convinced the next morning is going to be rough. And 316 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: then I wake up chirpy as a bird, and he's 317 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: just like, I'm afraid. 318 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 319 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: I always just chalk it up to hydration, maybe because 320 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: I always am drinking a lot of beverages, not just my. 321 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:57,239 Speaker 2: Cocktails. 322 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: Even if I'm having a long evening of drinking or 323 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: at a party or something, I usually also am having 324 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: a soda and more often, even though I hate it, 325 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: water yeah, et cetera. So that might just be it. 326 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: I've just been staving it off because I'm so thirsty 327 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: all the time. I always want many beverages at hand. 328 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: My experiences are usually like some kind of accidental miscalculation, like, 329 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: for example, when I first moved to Massachusetts, you could 330 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: not ship alcohol to Massachusetts, much like now. Well, this 331 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: is something I think they're wound up being court cases 332 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: about it, because, as I recall, and this is my memory, 333 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: so it might not be correct, Massachusetts distilleries and whatnot 334 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: were allowed to ship out of Massachusetts, but Massachusetts would 335 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: not allow you to ship into Massachusetts. And this is 336 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: a matter of interstate commerce, so it wound up in 337 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: federal court and the ruling was, no, you can't do 338 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: it that way. Before that changed, though, if I wanted 339 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: something that could not be gotten locally, I would have 340 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: to ship it to friends in Connecticut and get it 341 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: from them. And one time what I specifically wanted was 342 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: cathead honeysuckle vodka. Yes, not something It's possible that maybe 343 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: you can get it in New England. Now, it was 344 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: not something that could be procured in New England at 345 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: the time, so I had ordered it. My friends who 346 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: live in Connecticut had we had connected so that I 347 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: could get it, and we made some some cocktails with it, 348 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: and then later the same evening another friend started making 349 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: champagne cocktails with it. And the next morning I woke 350 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: up and was like, why do I feel bad? And 351 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: I was like, the amount that I had consumed felt 352 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: like a normal, responsible amount to me, and I'd also had, 353 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, the amount of other water and other like 354 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 1: I had done the things that I normally do, because 355 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: I also like, I don't like to feel bad and 356 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't like to be drunk either, And it took 357 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: me a minute to be like that other cocktail was 358 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: made with champagne and vodka. Right, not with like vodka 359 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: and something not an alcohol. And the worst part of 360 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: that was it was a day that I needed to 361 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: get up and get on an airplane and fly to 362 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: Atlanta for work reasons. And I remember being at the 363 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 1: airport and I had gotten through security, and I was like, 364 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: my head hurts and my body feels bad, and I 365 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: feel very anxious. And I went to one of the 366 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: newsstands and I bought one of those little little things 367 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: of cheerios that comes in a little plastic thing. 368 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 2: I did not get milk. 369 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: I just had like dry cheerios and ginger ale, and 370 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: then I felt somewhat better before I had to get 371 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: on the airplane. So yeah, yeah, I know what I 372 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: would do if I gotta hangover. 373 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. 374 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: I like that you brought up Furnett. Yeah, you said 375 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: you had lots of thoughts about Fornette. I do, and 376 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: it's mostly because nowadays Furnet is like a kind of 377 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: jokingly referred to as it's one of the things that 378 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: gets referred to as the bartender's handshake, like that bar 379 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: staff loves to do shots of Fornett together. Fine, and 380 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's because of its 381 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: connotations as a hangover cure, or if it's just one 382 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: of those things that it is a very uniquely flavored drink. 383 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: And Amorrow's in general, right, are a little bitie they 384 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: have They're not necessarily super palatable to everyone because they 385 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: are not even though it's technically a liquor, They're not 386 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: sweet the way you would think of like fruity liquor. 387 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: They have that herbal bite to them, and so I 388 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: think some of it is a little bit of a 389 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: dare factor, right, like, yeah, oh I can do three 390 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: shots of fur net, no problem. I love this, right, 391 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: but it just makes me chuckle. Yeah, I keep it 392 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: on the back bar. I don't use it all that much. 393 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: Perhaps I should, Yeah, you never know. I was just 394 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: happy that you wanted to look at the ABC's of 395 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: uh right. I love old cocktail books. I love them. 396 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 397 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: I so when I asked you if you had that, 398 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: because I U there's a lot of stuff you can 399 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: just find old scans of and I could not find 400 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: a scan of that when I was looking, and I 401 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: thought that you might have it, and so the first 402 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: thing that I looked for, because it's in alphabetical order, 403 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: I looked under Bee for bloody, and it was there 404 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: was no thing there, and so then I looked. I 405 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: was like, maybe it's under Mary Kamma bloody. So I 406 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: looked under em not there, and I think I found 407 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: it under Red Mary searching the book for tomato. 408 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 409 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: Those are always weird. It's always funny. One of the 410 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: things I love about old cocktail books specifically like the 411 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: ones that are now famous in the cocktail world, right 412 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: like Jerry Thomas's book that we've talked about on the 413 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: show before, and like h Harry CRATIXX Savoy Cocktail book. 414 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: Those are like the heavy hitters, right, Like those are 415 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: like the godfathers of modern cocktail culture. And it always 416 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: tickles me now that I have put a cocktail book 417 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: into the world, which is very, very nerve wracking for me, 418 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, everybody's gonna think I sting and I 419 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing. It's always good to go 420 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: back and look at these and find cocktails that are 421 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: literally like, I don't know, throw whiskey and cream in 422 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: a glass and it's like, wait a minute, You're like, 423 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: you're like the Apex dude, Like some of them are 424 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: really abysmal. That is an actual drink that's in the 425 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: Savoy Cocktail Book. I actually came up on an episode 426 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: criminally recently called a Cowboy, and it's literally two thirds 427 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: whiskey one third cream. That doesn't sound the least bit 428 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: delightful to me. 429 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: What is that? 430 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, it also seems like it wouldn't incorporate Well, it 431 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: sounds gross. Yeah, it sounds icky. 432 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: I mean that. 433 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Being said, sometimes those weird simple things will actually be 434 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: not too bad. But I have made a lot of 435 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: these older cocktails. Yeah, just to be like, that doesn't 436 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: have a lot of stuff we'd included in a cocktail today, 437 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: I wonder what this tastes. Nope, it's not so great 438 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: or surprisingly good going all over the map. But I'm like, well, 439 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: I guess if these guys would do throw a whiskey 440 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: and cream in a glass, I don't have to feel 441 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: too guilty if somebody doesn't like something. They're not over 442 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: there doing this, you know, being like, let's infuse a 443 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: vodka with a tea bag like, which is one of 444 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: the one of my favorite things to do on the planet. 445 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: I was also gonna say, for people like me that 446 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: don't like bloody Mary's because we don't enjoy tomato. I 447 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: will occasionally. I did it one of our early seasons 448 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: of Criminalia, but I now occasionally will make it. I 449 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: do a bloody Mary with beat juice instead of tomato juice. 450 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: Very different flavor profile. Obviously, it's a good bit sweeter. 451 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: It doesn't have that like acid note. I quite like it. 452 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you don't like beats, you're also out 453 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: of luck. 454 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I initially did not like the 455 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: tomato juice aspect, and so the first couple of times 456 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: that I tried a bloody Mary, I was like, no, 457 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: no thanks. 458 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: And then I had one that was made with like. 459 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: Really really fresh, like it might have been made with 460 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: tomatoes there at the bar lemon or a tomato juice, 461 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is actually is a 462 00:26:54,400 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: different situation, damn. And so yeah, that's uh. They grew 463 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: on me in that way. I guess we didn't put 464 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: a please drink responsibly note at the end of the 465 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: hangover episode because I felt like it was obvious. We've 466 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: been talking about feeling terrible and various negative health effects 467 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: of alcohol, but since this episode has been more about 468 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: the things we enjoyed drinking. 469 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, I always drink responsibly. 470 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. And don't don't drink and drive, don't do that 471 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: all of that. Don't rub dog hair in a wound. Yeah, 472 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 1: don't don't burn a dog hair and think you're gonna 473 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: prevent Rabi's. 474 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: That's definitely it's not how that works. No, it does. 475 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: I'll also just say I don't know if the next 476 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: time that New Year's Day rolls around is a day 477 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: that we have a podcast episode coming out, if we'll 478 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: have a fun, contextually relevant episode to do uh, because 479 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: I Uh, one year we did Day Planners. That was 480 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: your episode, and I thought that was a masterful stroke 481 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: of something to do on New Year's Day, and then 482 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: hangovers turned out to be really difficult. We'll think of something, 483 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: we may think of something, or there may just be 484 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: a random thing that has nothing to do with anything. 485 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: We'll see. It's in the future. Who knows, who knows 486 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: what will happen in the future. Happy New Year, everybody, 487 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: whatever's coming your way tomorrow, I hope it is great. 488 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: We will have a Saturday Classic tomorrow. We'll have something 489 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: brand new on Monday. 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