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Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and

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Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the

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Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history.

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Speaker 2: Joined by the newitch member of the Patriots Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: Mike Rabol.

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Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments

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Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight.

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Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian Hoyer.

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Speaker 2: Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but number

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Speaker 2: one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison.

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Speaker 3: Good to be home, Good to see you, guys.

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Speaker 4: I've said earlier, like with those guys that are on

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Speaker 4: coaches and the special teams coaches are both asking for

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Speaker 4: the same guy to be called up, because that's a

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Speaker 4: guy with the right makeup, doing it the right way,

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Speaker 4: that plays great special teams, plays great fundamental defense. So

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Speaker 4: being able to add that guy now or our roster

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Speaker 4: is a huge plus for us because he's versatile, he

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Speaker 4: can play the run, he can play the past, he's

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Speaker 4: out there on special teams and a guy with a

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Speaker 4: ton of potential. You don't remember him coming out of college.

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Speaker 4: It's like that length, that athleticism, that ability to play

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Speaker 4: the run in the past, those don't come out of

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Speaker 4: the sky, like those guys are rare. So to be

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Speaker 4: it's a credit to our scouting department for finding that guy,

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Speaker 4: getting that guy on our roster, and now we're looking

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Speaker 4: forward to developing him.

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Speaker 5: But could you see him taking on a bigger role

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think with all these guys with where we're

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Speaker 4: and'll keep building trust and keep earning more reps as

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Speaker 4: we go. But for sure, he's a guy really in

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Speaker 6: That's Jerry about this, and I'd be curious to get

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Speaker 6: your take on this that over the course of the year, really,

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Speaker 6: ever since the started training camp, your pass rush now

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Speaker 6: looks a lot differently, at least from a personnel perspective. No, Josh,

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Speaker 6: you know, Matt is gone, Christian has gone. How do

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Speaker 6: you think the guys who steed have been in the

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Speaker 6: they've done over the course.

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Speaker 5: Of the year. Yeah, it's a great question.

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Speaker 4: Those guys have really attacked the opportunity in front of

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Speaker 4: whether it's guys inside or Jennings last week, I mean,

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Speaker 4: we had sixty two graded places. He played sixty of

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Speaker 4: those guys have made the most of those opportunities. And

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Speaker 4: really they're guys that we trust and guys that are

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Speaker 4: these guys, get them better, not writing anybody off, not

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Speaker 4: saying hey, this guy's only this, Like, we have a

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Speaker 4: vision for all these players to be better tomorrow than

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Speaker 7: True, I apologize you've been asked about him already, so I.

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Speaker 8: Wanted to ask you feel when you see Anthony Jennings

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Speaker 5: Well in those situations.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of those things where he takes that

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Speaker 5: We're fired up that these out there guys do more.

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Speaker 9: It seems like he always plays through the whistle too.

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Speaker 5: Is that something that you see show up too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got he's got an edge to them, and

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Speaker 8: Probably, I know they're a little bit different in terms

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Speaker 8: you're coaching. How valuable is it to have somebody like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you love guys, and we'll talk about it like Monday,

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Speaker 4: we're watch the tape with these guys, like this is

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Speaker 4: talk about that technique. This play was the one that

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Speaker 8: I let you go, is there is there a play

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Speaker 5: Of those clinic reps.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say there's there's a puller coming at him.

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Speaker 4: He's on the left side. I don't know the play number,

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Speaker 4: but they run like counter and he takes the guy

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Speaker 5: Up being a one yard game.

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Speaker 4: The offensive lineman pulling and he goes and takes him

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Speaker 4: all right, But for a guy on the field to

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Speaker 7: It's always good to talk to you.

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Speaker 6: You have a good rest of the lead.

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Speaker 5: You guys have a good one.

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Speaker 10: I wanted to ask, what.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a really good football player.

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Speaker 11: So look his line of scrimmage, his tempo at the

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Speaker 11: top of the route, if you really watch him, his

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Speaker 11: he's a really, really good football player, and you know

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Speaker 11: they're lucky to have him. Over there in Tennessee, he's phenomenal.

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Speaker 10: Based on what we've seen last the first eight weeks

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Speaker 10: so I'm guessing that'll probably be the match this weekend.

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Speaker 10: What do you think about that matchup AND's ability guard?

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Speaker 11: willing to do whatever's best for the team. But yeah,

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Speaker 11: no Gonzo, he's locked in. If he's got to cover him,

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Speaker 11: everybody else in the room is as well. So we look,

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Speaker 11: we know it's a tough task, but we love tough tasks, right,

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Speaker 11: that's what you get paid to do at Corner, and

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Speaker 11: you know, excited for the opportunity.

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Speaker 5: Perfect every week. But Christians bounce back good allowed him

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, look, each week, new receivers, top guys

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Speaker 11: You know, it's tough to be perfect throughout the year,

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Speaker 11: like it is what it is at Corner. Just that

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Speaker 11: mental toughness, the resilience to keep going. Look, understanding that

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Speaker 11: like that's gonna happen and you can't overreact. It's that

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Speaker 11: next play mentality that we've been talking about since the spring.

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Speaker 3: What are you going to do? How are you going

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Speaker 8: Did you speak since he doesn't speak, did you speak

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Speaker 8: on behalf of Christian speak?

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Speaker 3: Did you hear the mic?

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Speaker 5: What makes him such a great player?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, no, so I've I've talked about this in previous interviews,

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Speaker 11: and you know, I'll say it again. You know, he's

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Speaker 11: got that you know, dog mentality of not going to

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Speaker 11: let this guy win right he had. He wants to

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Speaker 11: be great and he does all the extra things to

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Speaker 11: be great. You know, I'm I'm very impressed with his

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Speaker 11: work ethic. You know, he'll take extra reps, he'll take

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Speaker 11: scout team reps, anything that has to do with football.

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Speaker 3: He's locked in.

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Speaker 11: He's very good in the classroom, very good, very good

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Speaker 11: at his film study on his own.

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Speaker 5: You know that is unique. At corner, you had a

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Speaker 5: line on the micd up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't curse.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I want to.

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Speaker 8: Ask you about that moment because you you sort of

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Speaker 8: mentioned to him on the sideline. Hey there, look for

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Speaker 8: the they're coming to their one on one on the

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Speaker 8: back side here, like it's coming, It's gonna happen. What

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Speaker 8: makes you feel that way in that in that moment?

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Speaker 8: Then how satisfying is it to see it play out

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Speaker 8: and see him react the way he did this is

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Speaker 8: when he broke up the past the goal line there.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so, I mean you just kind of feel it

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Speaker 11: Those guys get a little antsy when they don't touch

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Speaker 13: What are you going Halloween?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm I'm an artist. I'm an artist, you know.

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Speaker 13: Windows open. Let's go if you can play on Sunday.

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Speaker 10: You know what does that bring to your room?

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Speaker 15: excuse because if you're on the field, you have to

437
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Speaker 15: do your job. And I think guys have done their

438
00:19:50,678 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 15: job better and did a good job last week.

439
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Speaker 6: So I understand part of this might be a Drew question,

440
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Speaker 6: So I forgive it if I'm kind of overstepping here,

441
00:20:00,678 --> 00:20:04,319
Speaker 6: But the idea of your pass rush has looked a

442
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,479
Speaker 6: lot different now than maybe it was at the start

443
00:20:06,519 --> 00:20:06,918
Speaker 6: of camp.

444
00:20:07,438 --> 00:20:10,518
Speaker 5: Judan gone more and more not available in trade.

445
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Speaker 6: Josh, how do you think the guys who have remained

446
00:20:13,638 --> 00:20:16,278
Speaker 6: and been consistent, Man, I'm thinking guys like Keon just

447
00:20:16,319 --> 00:20:18,958
Speaker 6: consistently in the lineup, you guys on a regular basis, How.

448
00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:21,358
Speaker 15: Do you think that group is done ultimately? Like, you know,

449
00:20:21,638 --> 00:20:23,279
Speaker 15: I'm going to keep going back to it, Like, we

450
00:20:23,319 --> 00:20:25,678
Speaker 15: asked these guys to do certain things part of the

451
00:20:25,678 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 15: game plan, and the guys that we have right now

452
00:20:28,958 --> 00:20:32,479
Speaker 15: are doing exactly what we're asking them to do. They're

453
00:20:32,478 --> 00:20:38,758
Speaker 15: affecting the quarterback and you know, keeping athletic quarterbacks in

454
00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:42,438
Speaker 15: the pocket and things of that nature. So like, we

455
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Speaker 15: have what we have and happy with what we have,

456
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Speaker 15: and we find the ways to get it done with

457
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Speaker 15: the guys that we have. So doing a good job.

458
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Speaker 16: Just one for me. I know obviously you guys are

459
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Speaker 16: preparing for every situation every week, but how unique is

460
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Speaker 16: a week like this where there maybe is some unsurgerty

461
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Speaker 16: on the other side about who the quarterback is going

462
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,319
Speaker 16: to be in the two options or two stylistically different players.

463
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Speaker 15: At the end of the day, We're looking at it

464
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Speaker 15: as say, it doesn't matter who the quarterback is. This

465
00:21:14,678 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 15: is their system, this is what they do. They got

466
00:21:17,319 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 15: good skill, they got good backs, quarterbacks do a good

467
00:21:21,718 --> 00:21:24,558
Speaker 15: job of getting the ball out and they have a

468
00:21:24,678 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 15: good old line. So like to me, it doesn't matter.

469
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Speaker 15: I don't look at it that way. We're preparing for

470
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Speaker 15: the Titans. Uh, you know the offense so absolutely yep.

471
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Speaker 13: Uh, just have a challenge of how it's been making

472
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Speaker 13: up for.

473
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Speaker 14: The loss of obviously a great player, great leader for us,

474
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Speaker 14: it's been a collaborative effort. I'm saying on defense, uh,

475
00:21:53,438 --> 00:21:55,719
Speaker 14: you know, front seven and in the back end. Uh,

476
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Speaker 14: you know, guys stepping up, being in roles that they

477
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Speaker 14: weren't necessarily in the beginning. You know, similar to the

478
00:22:01,999 --> 00:22:04,838
Speaker 14: next man mentality. But you know, guys are guys are

479
00:22:04,839 --> 00:22:06,918
Speaker 14: pulling through. Guys are you know, pushing to be leaders,

480
00:22:06,918 --> 00:22:08,438
Speaker 14: doing the right things, you know, trying to do the

481
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Speaker 14: right things, being accountable to each other at the same

482
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Speaker 14: and at the same time, it's kind of you know.

483
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Speaker 5: What, we're kind of appreciate what we want.

484
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Speaker 13: Did you see obviously statistically it was progress and stopping run.

485
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Speaker 13: But I'm guessing you're still not quite where you want

486
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Speaker 13: to be.

487
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Speaker 14: Yeah, obviously, I mean that's that's you know, kind of

488
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Speaker 14: the goal of I feel like any defense is to

489
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Speaker 14: be able to stop the run and you know, make

490
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Speaker 14: the make offense is one dimensional, you know, makes things

491
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Speaker 14: easier for us, makes it easier for the guys on

492
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Speaker 14: the field. So you know, anytime that we can get

493
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Speaker 14: out there and we can play good, we're cann play

494
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Speaker 14: good fundamental defense, you know, which you know we've done

495
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Speaker 14: done a better job there last week. But uh, you know, still,

496
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Speaker 14: you know, not where we want to be, not satisfied.

497
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Speaker 14: And you know that's not just from a coaching coaching perspective,

498
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Speaker 14: you know, the players have that same.

499
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Speaker 5: Perspective as well.

500
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Speaker 17: I don't know if Karen ash is just before I

501
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Speaker 17: walked in, but as far as the Jacksonville game to

502
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Speaker 17: the Jets game, the two different. Did you guys change

503
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Speaker 17: a lot with the way you were stopping the run

504
00:23:04,958 --> 00:23:06,079
Speaker 17: or do guys just play better?

505
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Speaker 14: I think guys, uh, you know, we coached. I think

506
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Speaker 14: we coached better. I think guys played better. You know,

507
00:23:13,039 --> 00:23:15,839
Speaker 14: I think it's uh, you know, just guys getting getting

508
00:23:15,839 --> 00:23:19,398
Speaker 14: comfortable with what we're doing and what we're asking. I mean,

509
00:23:19,879 --> 00:23:22,599
Speaker 14: uh clear difference in you know, the fundamentals that that

510
00:23:22,638 --> 00:23:24,918
Speaker 14: we're doing. It's not always about a technique or a

511
00:23:24,958 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 14: scheme type of thing. You know, whether you have good

512
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Speaker 14: fundamentals to set you up to be in a in

513
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Speaker 14: a better position, gonna make better plays and put put

514
00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 14: our defense in better positions. So I would just say,

515
00:23:35,438 --> 00:23:38,839
Speaker 14: you know, just continuing to harp heart on the fundamentals

516
00:23:38,879 --> 00:23:42,358
Speaker 14: as we go forward, whether there's blocks destruction, you know,

517
00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 14: getting off blocks, getting to blocks, I DM blocks, getting

518
00:23:46,079 --> 00:23:48,839
Speaker 14: you know, all loving gods to the ball carrier. You know,

519
00:23:48,879 --> 00:23:51,799
Speaker 14: good things happen when there's more multiple defenders around the ball.

520
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Speaker 17: And then you did a whole lot of winning when

521
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Speaker 17: you were in the Speltic play. How does a win

522
00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 17: feel for this group now that you're coaching?

523
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Speaker 5: It feels great again.

524
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Speaker 7: Man.

525
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Speaker 14: Each week, you know, whether it's week one, week fourteen, whatever,

526
00:24:03,718 --> 00:24:07,158
Speaker 14: it is like we're constantly preaching you know, fundamentals. You

527
00:24:07,158 --> 00:24:10,759
Speaker 14: know when when when loser draw and you know that's

528
00:24:10,839 --> 00:24:12,839
Speaker 14: been something that you know, these guys have really been

529
00:24:13,398 --> 00:24:15,999
Speaker 14: working on each week, and it feels good for those

530
00:24:15,999 --> 00:24:19,078
Speaker 14: guys to come out, you know and get a reward

531
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Speaker 14: off of all the hard work.

532
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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, practice has been great.

533
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Speaker 14: You know, everything that you ask for as far as fundamentals,

534
00:24:25,279 --> 00:24:27,678
Speaker 14: great energy, great, great effort, and it just feels good

535
00:24:27,678 --> 00:24:29,438
Speaker 14: to go out you know, you know, get a win.

536
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:31,718
Speaker 5: Yeah, when it win, it counts, not just you know through.

537
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Speaker 13: The week, eight weeks. And how has the coaching experience

538
00:24:37,398 --> 00:24:39,718
Speaker 13: been for you? I know it's something new, you know,

539
00:24:39,879 --> 00:24:43,519
Speaker 13: I don't think you've coached before, But tell us what

540
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Speaker 13: what that's been like.

541
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Speaker 14: Uh, It's it's been great, you know, Uh first year.

542
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Speaker 14: Just continue to want to improve, you know, give give

543
00:24:53,599 --> 00:24:57,559
Speaker 14: my guys whatever they need. You know, again, I've said

544
00:24:57,559 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 14: it before with this cut ups right up, sexual film time,

545
00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:02,799
Speaker 14: whatever it is. But at the same time, earning, under

546
00:25:02,839 --> 00:25:06,038
Speaker 14: earning and understanding what it is to be a coach.

547
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:09,799
Speaker 14: You know, there's a lot of you know, small things

548
00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:11,558
Speaker 14: that I'm able to pick up, you know, whether it's

549
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 14: from Mayo uh DC uh, you know JMO, Mike, I mean,

550
00:25:16,839 --> 00:25:19,238
Speaker 14: Mike Drew, you know, everybody in that defensive staff. But

551
00:25:19,238 --> 00:25:21,158
Speaker 14: you know, not just those guys. You know Ben mcado,

552
00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:22,998
Speaker 14: you know, a VP, a lot of guys who've had

553
00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:25,918
Speaker 14: a lot of experience in the league. You know, always

554
00:25:25,918 --> 00:25:28,039
Speaker 14: just trying to lean and continue. Like when I came

555
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:29,998
Speaker 14: into the league, I was a sponge to to Mayo

556
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Speaker 14: and Dev and Slaton bench.

557
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Speaker 5: You know, now you know, I got a different.

558
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Speaker 14: Form of sponge, but still want to wanting to learn

559
00:25:38,198 --> 00:25:40,438
Speaker 14: and wanting to gain that extra doledge.

560
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Speaker 13: Anything that you encountered that you didn't expect, or any

561
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Speaker 13: kind of curveballs.

562
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Speaker 5: I mean, not ever doing anything the first time.

563
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Speaker 14: You know, I learned a long time ago to not

564
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:56,278
Speaker 14: not necessarily have expectations on that kind of thing and

565
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Speaker 14: just kind of attack everything kind of head on. And

566
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Speaker 14: that's kind of that's what I've been doing, you know,

567
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:04,678
Speaker 14: hopefully you know, doing a decent enough job. But obviously

568
00:26:04,958 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 14: I mean, as long as as long as my guys

569
00:26:07,638 --> 00:26:10,438
Speaker 14: continue to go out, play hard, get better and improve

570
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:12,839
Speaker 14: each day each week. You know, that's that's really kind

571
00:26:12,839 --> 00:26:14,998
Speaker 14: of you know, my mindset, my focus, and that's you know,

572
00:26:14,999 --> 00:26:16,918
Speaker 14: really what I look for as far as success goes.

573
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Speaker 18: I think Christian Ellis credited you for telling him to

574
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Speaker 18: kind of get out of his own head, and obviously

575
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Speaker 18: he played pretty well last Sundays or anything between his

576
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Speaker 18: starting debut against Jacksonville to what happened last weekend versus

577
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Speaker 18: the Jetson you said or did differently with him.

578
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Speaker 14: No, I mean, you know, I'd love to take credit

579
00:26:34,678 --> 00:26:37,758
Speaker 14: for that, and I appreciate that from Ellis. But you know,

580
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:39,678
Speaker 14: since day once, since I've gotten here, Elis is doing

581
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:43,158
Speaker 14: the guys who've always has been, you know, wanting to

582
00:26:43,198 --> 00:26:47,799
Speaker 14: know exactly you know, where to be and the correct

583
00:26:48,678 --> 00:26:53,839
Speaker 14: corrections where where everybody's supposed to be. And you know,

584
00:26:53,958 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 14: he's done a good job as far as being able

585
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Speaker 14: to digest a lot of stuff that that the stuff's

586
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,799
Speaker 14: been kind of throwing on his plate. Again, go back

587
00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:05,718
Speaker 14: to your question caring about you know, God stepping in forbid.

588
00:27:05,879 --> 00:27:07,999
Speaker 14: You know, Elis has been able to do that for us,

589
00:27:07,999 --> 00:27:11,519
Speaker 14: whether it's been a little early down or on third down.

590
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:13,759
Speaker 14: But he's done a great job as far as accepting

591
00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:15,638
Speaker 14: that and then just kind of running with it.

592
00:27:15,678 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 5: I mean, he's doing everything right.

593
00:27:17,958 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 14: He's getting to the ball, he's getting off blocks, he's

594
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,999
Speaker 14: he's good in coverage. You know, he's he's he's kind

595
00:27:23,999 --> 00:27:27,918
Speaker 14: of you know, the linebacker in the linebacker room, you know,

596
00:27:28,918 --> 00:27:32,318
Speaker 14: fitting that mold. As far as being fast, being physical,

597
00:27:32,398 --> 00:27:36,039
Speaker 14: being aggressive, and being smart. So everything else is doing. Man,

598
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:37,838
Speaker 14: I'd love to take credit for it, but he's been

599
00:27:37,879 --> 00:27:39,438
Speaker 14: doing a long time, and just trying to give him

600
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Speaker 14: a slow down a little bit.

601
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Speaker 5: What are you? What are you proud of of? So far?

602
00:27:43,799 --> 00:27:44,559
Speaker 5: It's only mid season.

603
00:27:44,599 --> 00:27:46,038
Speaker 7: I know there's a long way to go, but just

604
00:27:46,478 --> 00:27:48,278
Speaker 7: of yourself, the work that you've done, the coaching you've

605
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:48,799
Speaker 7: done so far.

606
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Speaker 14: I mean, again, man, I really only kind of see

607
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:56,559
Speaker 14: that as like each week, I've got a great group

608
00:27:56,918 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 14: in the linebackers Ellis, Jilani, Ray Kwan, Joe Giles, Curtis.

609
00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:09,559
Speaker 14: Hopefully I'm not not missing anybody out. But those guys

610
00:28:09,638 --> 00:28:11,839
Speaker 14: come in, you know, regardless of the record, each day

611
00:28:11,918 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 14: each week. And again I mentioned it earlier, like they

612
00:28:14,678 --> 00:28:16,518
Speaker 14: come in and they work hard, they bust you know,

613
00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 14: they bust their tails each day through the week. You know,

614
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,839
Speaker 14: game day might not always get the result we want,

615
00:28:21,839 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 14: but they always come in ready to learn, ready to

616
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,958
Speaker 14: get the corrections, and again, man, just ready to go

617
00:28:26,999 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 14: out each week and like.

618
00:28:28,438 --> 00:28:29,599
Speaker 5: Pour everything they have into it.

619
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Speaker 14: And whenever you got guys like that in your room,

620
00:28:32,238 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 14: I mean it's kind.

621
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Speaker 5: Of mean, what what do wanted to be?

622
00:28:34,918 --> 00:28:37,839
Speaker 14: You know, upset or sad about Uh, they take coaching well,

623
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:41,518
Speaker 14: don't have to you know, yell or do all that

624
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:42,119
Speaker 14: extra stuff.

625
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:43,799
Speaker 5: I mean, they're they're very attentive and they want to

626
00:28:43,799 --> 00:28:44,199
Speaker 5: get better.

627
00:28:44,238 --> 00:28:46,639
Speaker 14: So you got a room like that that wants to

628
00:28:46,879 --> 00:28:48,558
Speaker 14: wants to get better, and as coach, will makes you

629
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:48,999
Speaker 14: really ease.

630
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Speaker 13: Do you feel frustrated in the same way you did

631
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:58,439
Speaker 13: as a player when things don't go well? There was

632
00:28:58,719 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 13: a different now, you know, being a coach.

633
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:05,359
Speaker 14: I think just as a fan or anybody else who's

634
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:08,559
Speaker 14: put time and effort in anything, you want to see

635
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:11,119
Speaker 14: things go go your way again.

636
00:29:11,199 --> 00:29:14,359
Speaker 5: But uh, a couple.

637
00:29:14,199 --> 00:29:16,119
Speaker 14: Of years ago got big in the store philosophy with

638
00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:18,639
Speaker 14: and my buddy around holiday and you know, at the

639
00:29:18,679 --> 00:29:20,199
Speaker 14: end of the day, it's really about control what you

640
00:29:20,199 --> 00:29:23,159
Speaker 14: can control, and a lot of that stuff is really

641
00:29:23,238 --> 00:29:26,199
Speaker 14: just your mindset and your attitude and you know, whatever

642
00:29:26,238 --> 00:29:29,799
Speaker 14: it is, it is, you know, just you know, don't

643
00:29:29,799 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 14: get a all that you want to get called. You know,

644
00:29:31,599 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 14: a big play pops out, like you can't dwell on

645
00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:35,439
Speaker 14: all of that stuff all at one time. Just kind

646
00:29:35,439 --> 00:29:37,238
Speaker 14: of put that play behind you and then you know,

647
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:38,758
Speaker 14: get those corrections and move forward.

648
00:29:38,999 --> 00:29:42,399
Speaker 13: Do you impart that lot of players do you impark

649
00:29:42,439 --> 00:29:43,919
Speaker 13: that wisdom to the player?

650
00:29:43,959 --> 00:29:44,558
Speaker 5: Absolutely.

651
00:29:45,199 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 14: I mean again, playing linebacker, especially in this defense, I

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Speaker 14: mean there's a lot, a lot of stuff that's on

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Speaker 14: your plate, whether it's in the run game, on the

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Speaker 14: pass game, front adjustments, checks, whatever, you look at it

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Speaker 14: like that shit, it is overwhelming.

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Speaker 5: It is a lot.

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Speaker 14: But at the same time, you gotta take we say

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Speaker 14: it all the time, you know, you take on one

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Speaker 14: snap at a time and play at a time. So

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Speaker 14: having that and again being able to control what you

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Speaker 14: can control, accepting what it is.

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Speaker 5: You know, whether you messed up or not.

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Speaker 14: Well, you know when you messed up, having that accountability

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Speaker 14: to admit that, come in, get the coaching and just

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Speaker 14: do better. And all those guys do it, whether you know,

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Speaker 14: whether I'm preaching it or not. You know, again, that's

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Speaker 14: just part of growth and wanting to be better.

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Speaker 7: That connection with Ryan's question, can you describe when and

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Speaker 7: how that happened? And when you're with Ryan Holliday you're

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Speaker 7: talking about connected with him, When and how did that happen?

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Speaker 7: And when did you realize a lot of that stuff

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Speaker 7: was here like before you know, Bill was saying and

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Speaker 7: Bill in the.

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Speaker 14: Programmer, Yeah, so it might have been like four or

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Speaker 14: five years ago that I probably like like dove into it.

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Speaker 5: You know. Ryan. Ryan's a good friend of mine. Now,

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Speaker 5: we shoot texts all the time.

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Speaker 14: Uh, he's got a place down at the beach and

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Speaker 14: we you know, when I was retired, we bumped into

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Speaker 14: each other out with the families and stuff. But he's

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Speaker 14: a great dude just to bounce, you know, just overall

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Speaker 14: wisdom and knowledge off of.

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Speaker 5: And I greatly appreciate that.

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Speaker 7: Was it kind of like, oh, I've heard this before,

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Speaker 7: at least from Bill, because there's a lot of football

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Speaker 7: coaches that are big stoics, whether they know it or not.

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Speaker 14: No, absolutely, I think Yeah. I think even in one

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Speaker 14: of the books, I can't remember which one, but he

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Speaker 14: drops uh kind of talks about Bill a little bit.

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Speaker 14: Uh as far as that goes, But yeah, you can

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Speaker 14: kind of well even before I knew what it was,

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Speaker 14: I think you guys kind of gave Bill thea got

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Speaker 14: the stoic look or whatever.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, used to used to hang it a little bit.

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Speaker 5: What what beach is at? Uh?

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Speaker 7: I want to get into all that's kind of general

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Speaker 7: state or area or no beaches in Tennessee. No beaches,

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Speaker 7: No awesome appreciation, how.

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Speaker 12: Much you think, how much you think you can help

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Speaker 12: a guy like that when he first joins the team

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Speaker 12: to look around and see so many other undrafted players

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Speaker 12: have so much success.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been it's helpful, you know.

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Speaker 9: And for a lot of these guys, the you emphasize

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Speaker 9: the importance of special teams, like not everyone is gonna

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Speaker 9: be able to play defense the first game of the

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Speaker 9: season as a rookie or whatever, right like you're building

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Speaker 9: that up. And for some it's a bit of a

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Speaker 9: shock because they've been probably the best player on defense

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Speaker 9: or one of the best players on defense for a

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Speaker 9: lot of the teams they've played ever since they've played football.

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Speaker 7: So but like Dell played, has played a.

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Speaker 9: Lot more on special teams. Great, you know, way to

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Speaker 9: get on the field and make it to the game

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Speaker 9: and be there, and for the young players that's extremely important.

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Speaker 9: And that's how a guy like John Jones really got started.

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Speaker 9: And now he's, you know, such a good corner for

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Speaker 9: us and a good special teams player. But that you know,

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Speaker 9: just getting to the game is half the battle. And

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Speaker 9: if you can do that, then you can keep improving

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Speaker 9: in the rest of the phases and you know, see

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Speaker 9: where you end up. So he's done a good job

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Speaker 9: and had a good mentality, and I enjoy working with him,

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Speaker 9: and you know, just keep stacking day by day, keep

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Speaker 9: getting better.

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Speaker 13: Thank you guys.

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