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Speaker 1: Thy twenty one, season seventeen, episode number fifty seven. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the latest edition of The Break Life from the
Speaker 1: SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We got a gumbo
Speaker 1: show for you today. We've got a lot of different
Speaker 1: topics we're gonna hit. Before we get to that, Nick,
Speaker 1: give me a quick fifty seven. Remember Baron Wortham, Yes,
Speaker 1: I do. Linebacker? Yeah do. He came from the Titans, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I like about him. He came from
Speaker 1: the Titans. He was a good player, four or five
Speaker 1: years good player, and came in like two thousand. He
Speaker 1: actually wasn't. I think he was one of the holdovers
Speaker 1: from the Oilers. I think he maybe from the Oilers.
Speaker 1: He were fifty two and he got here and he said,
Speaker 1: you know, what this young guy that they got Dexter
Speaker 1: Coakley's he's got it, he's got it going. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna take kids number. I thought it. Fifty seven's fine.
Speaker 1: He was a cool dude. Yeah he was fifty seven.
Speaker 1: Baron worth it. I can't think of anyone else, really,
Speaker 1: can you? Current guys current? No, Damian Wilson, Warrant, m
Speaker 1: Victor Butler about Davante Holliman, that was one of my
Speaker 1: I was that's probably one of the saddest stories in
Speaker 1: the time I've covered the Cowboys, that he didn't get
Speaker 1: a chance to really let his career. When when we
Speaker 1: do that documentary on what could have been? Guys, is
Speaker 1: that him, He'll be up He'll be up there. What
Speaker 1: could have been? For a lot of reasons, Um, David Irving, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, oh, I thought you meant fifty seven. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, we're fifty seven. No, No,
Speaker 1: just guys on him, Yeah, I got you, guys are
Speaker 1: just man, he could have been, it could have been
Speaker 1: something different. There's a few guys like that, but that
Speaker 1: actually would be a good documentary. Put that on your listening.
Speaker 1: I think, I think I still I'm not gonna say,
Speaker 1: I follow Holloman, but his name pops up from time
Speaker 1: to time like he was a he was like a
Speaker 1: GA at South Carolina after his career, and then I
Speaker 1: think he's coaching high school football now, Okay, I could
Speaker 1: see that. I just I feel like maybe it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprising if one day I see him. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying like a head coach, but like in college
Speaker 1: or the NFL, just like, oh yeah, like what linebackers
Speaker 1: coach DeVante Hallam And I'm like, well, I'm just what. Okay.
Speaker 1: That just reminds me of another guy that keeps seeing
Speaker 1: a lot of that's coaching. And he maybe wore fifty
Speaker 1: seven Kevin Burnett, h Kevin. I don't think it was fifties.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he definitely is coaching now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's coaching a lot. You see, definitely coach doing a
Speaker 1: lot of things. Maybe he wouldn't fit shout out to
Speaker 1: the bros. Was he wasn't he? There's no such thing.
Speaker 1: There was tru Hey, I had I got a long
Speaker 1: you can't get I mean a long information can't get
Speaker 1: kicked out of the omega. Yeah, I guess, but that's
Speaker 1: not that's not normal. Yeah, you get kicked out of anything.
Speaker 1: Always there you go, there you go. And even if
Speaker 1: you get kicked out, like you're still a brother still
Speaker 1: if you go to the other team, there's no that
Speaker 1: does not happen. Okay, that ain't gonna happen. All right,
Speaker 1: real quick before we get yeah, before we get into
Speaker 1: the cowboys talk, I do need a real quick I
Speaker 1: gotta say happy birthday to my mom. It is her
Speaker 1: seventieth birthday. Wow um, and so I'm just like very
Speaker 1: very excited for her today. It's like a really big
Speaker 1: milestone for her. Happy birthday. Happy birth I know she's
Speaker 1: listening because she's a long time breaker, Like she've been
Speaker 1: listening since it was just me and you doing this.
Speaker 1: So she's been listening to pretty much every episode since
Speaker 1: we started doing this. So, oh, I got a video
Speaker 1: you can send her, which one? Well she's listening, Oh okay, okay. Yeah. Basically, basically,
Speaker 1: like four years ago, I got Zack Martin to say
Speaker 1: happy birthday to my dad wearing number seventy. He was
Speaker 1: wearing seven. Happy birthday from number seventy, Zach Martin, and
Speaker 1: he said, you know. And then three years later, when
Speaker 1: my mom turned seventy. I kind of trimmed off the
Speaker 1: first part when you talked about that, and I sent
Speaker 1: it to her happy birthday, so I have a happy
Speaker 1: birthday from numbers. That would have been so awesome. That
Speaker 1: would have been so awesome if you just had not
Speaker 1: just sit that on the air like actually, I could
Speaker 1: have used it kind of said that. Maybe he shouldn't.
Speaker 1: Can you told him to say it? Anyway? I did?
Speaker 1: You're right? Do you think we're gonna get a flat
Speaker 1: tire in the ditch here as we're maybe driving here?
Speaker 1: Maybe didn't you write an article about that, something about
Speaker 1: flat tire if you start, if you keep driving on
Speaker 1: a flat it will end in a blowout. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: let's jump in real quick again. Happy seventy the birthday
Speaker 1: of your mom. Love you, all right, So here's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Let's talk a little bit about injuries.
Speaker 1: Let's start first there because there are quite a few
Speaker 1: we need to catch up on. Let's start with Tyren Smith.
Speaker 1: We'll see and we'll see that's what that's what Jerry said. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Okay, after you read through what Jerry said
Speaker 1: and what Mike said, what's your thought? I don't. I truly,
Speaker 1: I truly don't have a read. I know Jerry says
Speaker 1: the best way to get over this injury is to
Speaker 1: give it rest and to get back on it. Well,
Speaker 1: well he did well, he did say he did say
Speaker 1: that this is not one of those injury. He said,
Speaker 1: It's gonna get better whether you're on it or not,
Speaker 1: is what he said. And right, and he said, he said,
Speaker 1: this is an injury about pain. How much pain can
Speaker 1: he tolerate? So that makes me wonder like can he
Speaker 1: come back this week and just deal with a lot
Speaker 1: of pain or after sitting out a week, is the
Speaker 1: pain lesson to where it does make sense for him
Speaker 1: to get because out he was with the rehab crew
Speaker 1: yesterday working and getting up on it like he's not
Speaker 1: off his feet, he's he's taking steps to getting back
Speaker 1: onto the field. I don't know what that means for
Speaker 1: this week. If it's about if it's about pain tolerance,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to bet against Tyrn Smith, that's for
Speaker 1: damn sure. So yeah, Thursday, Thursday is the new day
Speaker 1: where I sort of make determinations about how I feel
Speaker 1: about things. Because we've said with Garrett it was Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: you're ramping up. But now it's they kind of do
Speaker 1: stuff Wednesday. Thursday is the real practice. They don't practice
Speaker 1: at all really on Friday, and then they do something Saturday.
Speaker 1: So thursday's the padded practice. We'll see what he does,
Speaker 1: all right. Talk to me about Ezekiel Elliott. He had
Speaker 1: the I think it was a knee contusion there in
Speaker 1: the game. They wrapped it in a heating pad. Then
Speaker 1: he came back on the field. What are we hearing
Speaker 1: at this point? Zeke said, after we were done ask
Speaker 1: him about that. When the interview was over, he was
Speaker 1: just like, I'm doing this every Week's first time you'll
Speaker 1: ask me about it, Like he means the first time
Speaker 1: he's came out of a game for it. It's right.
Speaker 1: He didn't come out of the game though, like he
Speaker 1: rotates with Pollard all the time. That's yeah. But after
Speaker 1: the guy fell on it, you saw him limping and
Speaker 1: he called he went onto the sideline and then he
Speaker 1: didn't come back out the next time. Maybe that was
Speaker 1: already gonna be Pollard's series, But I'm just saying he
Speaker 1: didn't miss like this crazy amount of time. He went
Speaker 1: back in in the same quarter that he left. He's
Speaker 1: been dealing with this all season. He's been on the
Speaker 1: injury rapport before as football. I'm not gonna say he's
Speaker 1: fine because I'm sure it bothers him. But he's not
Speaker 1: gonna miss time because well, he was playing thirty to nothing, right,
Speaker 1: wasn't he out there towards the while? He was definitely
Speaker 1: out there? And yes, yeah, first of all, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so's you know. I mean I think that that's a
Speaker 1: good sign there too. If if it was really bad
Speaker 1: and the game was out of reach, you know, he
Speaker 1: like I said, like if I if I told him
Speaker 1: you're fine, right, he'd probably like laugh, like, of course,
Speaker 1: I'm not fine. I get the crap beat out of
Speaker 1: me every week, but I'm gonna play. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good. It's not a big deal. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Michael Gallup and thank Lawrence, Boats still
Speaker 1: have not returned. Michael Gallup's going to play against the Falcons,
Speaker 1: all right, Thank Lawrence. Uh. I mean we've been talking
Speaker 1: about and I think it was it was longer than
Speaker 1: a lot of people anticipated. I think that's fair. I
Speaker 1: think part of that was Jerry even said that today
Speaker 1: he was like it was close enough that in hindsight,
Speaker 1: you're like, maybe we should have played him in this game.
Speaker 1: Of course, nobody in the world thought they really needed him. Um,
Speaker 1: but they said last week that if he didn't play
Speaker 1: again Stenver, he'd be ready for Atlanta. He's his practice
Speaker 1: window is up either tomorrow or Thursday. They have to
Speaker 1: activate him. He's going to be up and playing against
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Yep, need and needed. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think it'll be interesting to see how they how they
Speaker 1: rotate him in but um, probably less reps for Noah
Speaker 1: Brown maybe or definitely a league turner, you know, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't playing a whole lot anyways until it got bad.
Speaker 1: So um, but yeah, I'm I'm anxious to see kind
Speaker 1: of how they could. And even Jerry said this morning
Speaker 1: that his deep threat, you know, that's something that we're
Speaker 1: you know, needed and and something that Gallip obviously provides.
Speaker 1: Tank to my knowledge, they have not started the twenty
Speaker 1: one day window. So yeah, what did we say last week?
Speaker 1: I feel like we said we're hopeful for for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: That would be fun, but that even that, I mean
Speaker 1: wild how the season works that way where you look
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden. Thanksgiving is two weeks away,
Speaker 1: so uh might be Saints. We'll see. And I get
Speaker 1: that that's frustrating because he got injured week two and
Speaker 1: you say two months, So two months from September eighteenth
Speaker 1: is November. I get that, but these things don't always
Speaker 1: follow a perfectly linear path. And even if he's even
Speaker 1: if he comes back in December, you've still got him
Speaker 1: for four or five games. And then on top of
Speaker 1: where whatever happens with the playoff situation, which despite the
Speaker 1: sky falling this week, still think it's a good bet
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will be in the playoffs. They we have
Speaker 1: walked off of that one. Well, it depends when you
Speaker 1: talk to you. But yeah, so we'll we'll see. I
Speaker 1: would still I'm still hopeful for Thanksgiving, but maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit later. All right, Let's let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit of Broncos strategy. This week. We heard some interactions
Speaker 1: after the game. Vic Fangi, who is the head coach
Speaker 1: of the Broncos, said that the teams haven't played the
Speaker 1: Cowboys right, talking about how well they were able to
Speaker 1: perform against this Cowboys offense. McCarthy says, in response to that,
Speaker 1: this is a copycat league. I hope they do so.
Speaker 1: And he was talking about referring to even Dak's comment
Speaker 1: where he said, you know, I hope teams do actually
Speaker 1: look at this and want to keep doing what they did,
Speaker 1: because I think we can beat that. And we even
Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit last week. Brandon Staley
Speaker 1: is a kind of a disciple of Vic Fangio and
Speaker 1: Cowboys did have some challenges offensively against the Chargers. That
Speaker 1: was one of the defenses that's probably given them more
Speaker 1: trouble than any other defenses this year. And so my
Speaker 1: question for you guys is what did you see in
Speaker 1: this game that may have been the Achilles heel or
Speaker 1: the thing that can give Dallas a bit of problem?
Speaker 1: What did they do that was very different, maybe than
Speaker 1: other teams have been able to do. I'll be very
Speaker 1: transparent this. I mean, it's Tuesday morning. It's super annoying.
Speaker 1: The game pass ALL twenty two. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's up yet. It usually isn't up till Tuesday. I
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to watch any type of All
Speaker 1: twenty two angle and give you some type of great
Speaker 1: breakdown of it. But just off the rip and Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy probably said this four times. The Denver played match Man, which,
Speaker 1: without going too far into the weeds, it's it's what
Speaker 1: he's known for, which is dropping in coverage. Match Man
Speaker 1: is basically you can switch between more of his own
Speaker 1: look and a man look depending on what you see,
Speaker 1: which sounds insanely difficult to me and takes a high
Speaker 1: amount of precision and communication. You can go. Brian Baldinger
Speaker 1: did a great breakdown of this. If you bald these breakdowns,
Speaker 1: he goes viral, like every Monday. Of the interception that
Speaker 1: Caden Sterns had of Dak, he had a guy coming
Speaker 1: out of the slot. He was carrying him over the
Speaker 1: middle of the field, realized what Dak was doing, communicated
Speaker 1: with the safety behind him, and passed his guy off
Speaker 1: and then dropped into a zone in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field and was just waiting for the past. All
Speaker 1: of that happened in the time since the all was snapped.
Speaker 1: You just again, you gotta be on your p's and
Speaker 1: q's and you can just move within the scheme depending
Speaker 1: on what you see. That's not unique to Denver, though,
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing that most NFL teams can do.
Speaker 1: I think The big difference for me is that Denver
Speaker 1: didn't have to bring extra pressure to bother Dak the
Speaker 1: stack going around, as they blitzed fourteen percent of the time,
Speaker 1: which is the lowest of the season by far. Dak
Speaker 1: was like running away with the league lead in terms
Speaker 1: of how often he was getting blitzed. So not only
Speaker 1: were they not doing that, which means you can have six, seven,
Speaker 1: maybe even eight guys in coverage, but they were still
Speaker 1: getting home. Like the ridiculous Hail Mary that we talked
Speaker 1: about yesterday where Dak had like he got all the
Speaker 1: way out to the sideline and threw it sixty yards
Speaker 1: to Dalton Schultz on a third and twenty one. It's
Speaker 1: three man rush, and they still bothered him that much
Speaker 1: to where he was flushed and had to run twenty
Speaker 1: yards to the sideline. I just think Denver did a
Speaker 1: way better job of pressuring him with fewer people than
Speaker 1: anybody we've seen before. It's easy to blame the tackles,
Speaker 1: but I wonder if there was more to it than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think just them, like any game, you know,
Speaker 1: not being able to run, you know, running the football
Speaker 1: can offset a lot of those things. A lot of
Speaker 1: the down and distance that you get yourself in and
Speaker 1: that that I thought was a big problem too, first
Speaker 1: and second. Really on first down, they just never seemed
Speaker 1: to get anything going. Um, you know, every once in
Speaker 1: a while they did, but it just felt like it
Speaker 1: was second nine, second and eight, second and ten and
Speaker 1: unlike what Denver was able to do on second down
Speaker 1: on offense, the Cowboys just weren't able to do that
Speaker 1: when this was the one game I thought this year
Speaker 1: that when they got behind the chains, they didn't make
Speaker 1: up for it. And we were noticing that they could
Speaker 1: do that, and a lot of these games, penalties weren't
Speaker 1: hurting them. Sacks early weren't hurting them because they were
Speaker 1: explosive enough. Not in this game, And I think what
Speaker 1: Dave said, I mean, I just think getting pressure, because
Speaker 1: when you can play that way, then you can play
Speaker 1: his zone and man and do all that because you're
Speaker 1: you're you're getting there, and it's a it's unbelievable when
Speaker 1: you think about the injuries that they've had and then
Speaker 1: trading von Miller away and Chubb and Miller was supposed
Speaker 1: to be their guys, and you know, and you go
Speaker 1: back and look early in the season. They were, they
Speaker 1: were playing really well on defense. Still are. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: if I learned anything from this matchup, I don't know
Speaker 1: much about Vic Fangio. He's in the A. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know who he is. He was in Chicago. His
Speaker 1: very well respected. He's a great defensive mind. I knew
Speaker 1: all that, the two deep safeties. He's a big part
Speaker 1: of what everybody's trying to do. I just didn't know
Speaker 1: a lot about him as a guy. And I came
Speaker 1: out of this matchup like, Okay, Vick Fangio has a
Speaker 1: really high opinion of himself, which a lot of football
Speaker 1: coaches do. But not only did he say he said
Speaker 1: three things after the game that I missed because you know,
Speaker 1: we cover the Cowboys. We're focused on what happened to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. In the postgame press conference, he said nobody's
Speaker 1: played them the right way. He said, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: in charge of the defensive calls in the alignments, so
Speaker 1: we knew that was going to be good. Like, that's
Speaker 1: my responsibility, So we knew we were going to be
Speaker 1: on top of that. And then he started out as
Speaker 1: press conference by saying, as Jimmy Johnson would say, how
Speaker 1: about them Broncos all in the span of like ten minutes.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, man, this meant a lot
Speaker 1: to you, or you're really amped about this win, like
Speaker 1: tip your cap. They beat their ass. But I just
Speaker 1: I came out of it like, damn Vic Fangio, like
Speaker 1: talk talk, you're trash. I guess, man, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: good coordinator for someone next year. Well, honestly he had
Speaker 1: to double down in that instant. I mean because all
Speaker 1: week I'm sure he was telling his team nobody thinks
Speaker 1: you guys can win. Everybody's counting you out. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go in there, We're gonna beat him. And so when
Speaker 1: you do that, that's the kind of win that can
Speaker 1: propel you are some better things. Like they're a middling
Speaker 1: team right now, but they certainly can get on a
Speaker 1: run maybe if they can have the right pieces in
Speaker 1: place and do the right things. I'm really interested to
Speaker 1: see where they go because if they play like that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna win a lot more. And AFC is not
Speaker 1: like nobody's running away with AFC. So we've also like
Speaker 1: and that's the reason why those of us on the
Speaker 1: outside took them lightly. They haven't looked like that year,
Speaker 1: Like they're struggling to score seventeen eighteen points in games,
Speaker 1: losing to the Browns who didn't have anybody the week
Speaker 1: they played. I mean, so, I'm just are they all
Speaker 1: of a sudden gonna go on this run and contend
Speaker 1: for the AFC West or a month from now? Are
Speaker 1: they going to be hovering around five hundred losing the
Speaker 1: bad teams And we're like, man, that's a bad looking
Speaker 1: they They're going to lose next week at home against Philly.
Speaker 1: They just will what I think? So, yeah, just the
Speaker 1: way it works out for the Yeah, yeah, they beat
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, they beat their hals and then so the
Speaker 1: cow of like, at least at least you can just
Speaker 1: keep it up and beat Philly. They won't. They won't.
Speaker 1: The free and four they won't. They won't. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're definitely wrong, but Philly ain't. Grady, No, No,
Speaker 1: they're not. Think I think the home for teams like Philly,
Speaker 1: I think the home fil advantage in Denver is hard
Speaker 1: to overcome when you're not just a better team, and
Speaker 1: I don't think Philly's a better team like that. The
Speaker 1: altitude is a like, that's a that's a hard thing
Speaker 1: to get that is that is a tough place to
Speaker 1: play at. This is more. But I was wondering, remember
Speaker 1: we went up there in seventeen. Broncho fans do this
Speaker 1: annoying thing every time the opposing team throws incomplete they yell,
Speaker 1: comb please remember that Dak threw like forty in completions
Speaker 1: that day. Are so annoying. In the fourth quarter on Sunday,
Speaker 1: I was like, are we gonna hear that here? Like
Speaker 1: there are enough Broncho fans that are would have gotten
Speaker 1: that would have been demoralized. Yeah, fortune we didn't hear it,
Speaker 1: which was nice. So how concerned do you, guys, all
Speaker 1: that being said, how concerned do you that other teams
Speaker 1: really can do this to the Cowboys? That that maybe
Speaker 1: playing coverage against Dallas and mixing up your coverages to
Speaker 1: where Dak can't get a good pre snap read and
Speaker 1: be able to get rid of the ball quick. How
Speaker 1: much do you think that can affect them if other
Speaker 1: teams are able to do that to them. I'm not
Speaker 1: and I know I know that the Chargers and the
Speaker 1: Broncos aren't identical. No team is doing the exact same stuff.
Speaker 1: But that's Staley's part. Of that tree. Staley does the
Speaker 1: same stuff. He got a head coaching job because what
Speaker 1: he was doing as the DC with the rams and
Speaker 1: they piled up yards on the chargers, uh and and
Speaker 1: and people disguising coverages has never bothered him to this point,
Speaker 1: Like the windows that he can fit throws into, it
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me at all. Um. And I think there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of defiance there where it's like, you're
Speaker 1: not going to be like, I hope we don't see that,
Speaker 1: Like that's really confident guy. Of course he's gonna say
Speaker 1: he hopes to see more of it. But no, I'm
Speaker 1: not thinking I'm not super worried. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of factors involved there. I mean, not everybody can do
Speaker 1: what what Denver does. Not. Not everybody's schemes it the
Speaker 1: same way. They don't have the pass rushers the same
Speaker 1: They don't have the discipline in their secondary. You have
Speaker 1: to you have to be really well coached. You can't
Speaker 1: just go out and just do the same thing, um
Speaker 1: and say, well, we're just gonna run the same stuff
Speaker 1: that the that the eighty five Bears ran and will
Speaker 1: be you know, it didn't. It doesn't always work the
Speaker 1: same um. But also, you know, I think what we
Speaker 1: said yesterday and let's don't know, you know, underestimate the
Speaker 1: fact that that the wide receivers were not at one
Speaker 1: hundred percent all that they were out of sync with
Speaker 1: the quarterback. And that's not what we've seen all year long.
Speaker 1: So if Atlanta comes in here and does it, then
Speaker 1: I think the next Monday we'll hit panic buttons and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I just think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of factors in seventy seven. The left tackle. I think
Speaker 1: that's a big factor as well. I don't I mean, whoever,
Speaker 1: whoever was rushing to the edge for Denver, I don't
Speaker 1: think has the same kind of success. I guarantee you
Speaker 1: if I would have interviewed Terrence or Tyrn Smith after
Speaker 1: the game, he probably wouldn't have been like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was a lot more challenging than I thought it would be.
Speaker 1: Over there, Now, well that was I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: seventh round pick that got his first two sacks of
Speaker 1: his career against Terrence Steele. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know that he gets on the stat sheet against Tyron yeah,
Speaker 1: which yeah, I mean I Tyron being in the lineup
Speaker 1: is a big part of that. Although, as we talked
Speaker 1: about and we'll continue to talk about, you can't count
Speaker 1: on that. You can't count on it this week and
Speaker 1: who knows how many more weeks where that'll be an issue.
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take our first break. Comeback. We
Speaker 1: got to talk about the defense, and I want to
Speaker 1: zero in a little bit on Trey Von Diggs. We
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to talk about him yesterday, but
Speaker 1: coach McCarthy had something very interesting to say about his aggressiveness.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we come right back. This
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Speaker 1: First thing? Right now? But about everything? Is it? Is
Speaker 1: it Cowboys Twitter? Or is it lsu gonna beat arkansass
Speaker 1: to everything? It's everything? It's everything I follow like three
Speaker 1: thousand people. You need constant stimulation all the time. Is
Speaker 1: that the first thing you do when you wake at
Speaker 1: the morning to grab your phone to look at Twitter? Home? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and turn off my alarm? Uh yeah, Twitter? I check
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Speaker 1: make sure it's anything crazy. Maybe check in with TikTok
Speaker 1: trying to get a get a laugh in before I
Speaker 1: get up. Yes, I look at my phone for probably
Speaker 1: twenty minutes before I get out of it, and dogs
Speaker 1: just looking at you, like what we go to the broom? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Can I police go outside here? He knows better. He's
Speaker 1: like he'll get up when he wants to get up.
Speaker 1: I just got to hold it, to keep holding it, basically,
Speaker 1: keep holding it. All right, let's get back in. I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about trey Von Diggs this defense. They
Speaker 1: had six plays that were twenty plus yards, including a
Speaker 1: forty four yard touchdown to Tim Patrick. That was some
Speaker 1: of the work of Treylon Diggs after the game when
Speaker 1: asks about it, I think, Dave, I think you were
Speaker 1: the one that even asked him about it, and his
Speaker 1: response was His response was, it was a double move,
Speaker 1: good throw, good catch, and I mean pretty simple. That's
Speaker 1: exactly what it was. And we've heard that now a
Speaker 1: couple of times here in the last few weeks where
Speaker 1: teams got him with a double move, and I actually
Speaker 1: I saw Mike McCarthy said something that was interesting when
Speaker 1: asked about that. He said, he's probably a little too
Speaker 1: aggressive right now. Some of his penalties reflect that. That's
Speaker 1: really the focal point of what we want him to improve.
Speaker 1: But by no means do we want to take want
Speaker 1: him to lose his aggressiveness. That's a big part of
Speaker 1: who he is. So my question for you guys is
Speaker 1: where's the balance. Do you think they need to kind
Speaker 1: of coach him to be less aggressive and in doing that,
Speaker 1: risk the fact that he gives up the aggressiveness that
Speaker 1: gets the turnovers. Or do you let him just keep
Speaker 1: playing and hope that he can just be a little more,
Speaker 1: a little more smart about when he's gonna be aggressive
Speaker 1: and not well, I mean it's SNU incidents. I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't even know who night Train Lane was and
Speaker 1: Everson Walls and now he's getting compared to these guys,
Speaker 1: and there were stats and has a chance to break
Speaker 1: records and all that, and how could you not want
Speaker 1: to keep doing that? And it's working and then now
Speaker 1: teams are figuring out ways to to you know, kind
Speaker 1: of offset that. So, um, there's no I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a right answer to this. It's just like we
Speaker 1: always say, how are they're going to play defense? They're
Speaker 1: gonna play it in a lot of ways. There are
Speaker 1: times he's gonna have to learn as a second year guy.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to learn when to take the chances,
Speaker 1: when to you know, to calculate these moves when it's
Speaker 1: a right time to do it. Yeah, I mean, if
Speaker 1: the coach says he needs to be less aggressive, then
Speaker 1: that's probably what you know they'll be because giving up
Speaker 1: a twelve yard pass, a nine yard pass or whatever,
Speaker 1: it's not as bad as obviously fifty yard touchdowns. And
Speaker 1: so you know, getting rid of those chunk plays, it
Speaker 1: might it might lose a little bit from him. I
Speaker 1: might say something controversial right here, Oh, I he got
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. If you go back and watch the replay,
Speaker 1: was it just a case of him being this overaggressive corner.
Speaker 1: I went back and watched it, and I asked Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn about this yesterday. I asked Trayvon about it too,
Speaker 1: really good throw a really good catch, Like, go watch it.
Speaker 1: He stops short when he doesn't stop, and then when
Speaker 1: he goes, Trayvon's right with him, Like it's not like
Speaker 1: he tried to jump a route that wasn't there and
Speaker 1: was trailing the play by three yards. Like I thought
Speaker 1: the coverage was pretty good. And so the reason I
Speaker 1: say controversial is I'm like, am I making excusives? If
Speaker 1: I just tend more toward well, yeah, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: beat sometimes in the NFL. I think the play that
Speaker 1: I would want back more was the defensive pass interference
Speaker 1: in the front of the end zone where he just
Speaker 1: got there too quickly. That's aggressive right there. That's and
Speaker 1: I get it, it's a tough play to make, but
Speaker 1: you put him on the goal line by getting there
Speaker 1: too quick. You just I would think you can time
Speaker 1: that up better. I have more issue with that than
Speaker 1: the still the same issue though, Yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: question is do you think that they need to coach
Speaker 1: him to be a little less aggressive or do you
Speaker 1: think they just can't let him keep playing. I'll let
Speaker 1: him keep playing, honestly. The results are good to this point,
Speaker 1: and it's the same thing as the offense. Like like
Speaker 1: Nick said in the first segment, like we can press
Speaker 1: panic buttons if this turns into a trend and Trayvon
Speaker 1: has given up yards. That's kind of been consistent throughout
Speaker 1: the season. But the returns to this point are worth
Speaker 1: the risk in my opinion. So I don't know, that's
Speaker 1: just kind of how I feel. Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 1: agree with you, Dave, because the way I look at it,
Speaker 1: I think that you need playmakers on this defense with
Speaker 1: the kind of offense that you have in most weeks,
Speaker 1: not this last week. Obviously we're not talking about that,
Speaker 1: but in general, what we've seen from this offense this
Speaker 1: year is that they're highly explosive. They'll create a lot
Speaker 1: of points. They're gonna put pressure on the opposing team's
Speaker 1: offense to continue to score in that kind of instance,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have the aggressive type who can get some turnovers,
Speaker 1: who can make them pay for being aggressive, for having
Speaker 1: to be aggressive, rather than somebody that sits back and
Speaker 1: just always gives up the nine, twelve whatever yard catch
Speaker 1: and never actually takes a chance and creates a turnover
Speaker 1: win when you get him in an advantageous situation. I'll
Speaker 1: even go as far as to say, and again I
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to watch the All twenty two.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I think somebody, maybe it was dan
Speaker 1: quinn just made the point, or maybe it was McCarthy
Speaker 1: that defenses have had a month to see what he
Speaker 1: doesn't handle well and what he does, and it's he
Speaker 1: It seems like he has trouble with over routes. These
Speaker 1: you know, these long routes that crossed the field. Remember
Speaker 1: Feeling had a big one on the fourth and one. Really,
Speaker 1: one of the most backbreaking plays in that Denver game
Speaker 1: for me was the third down. It was only like
Speaker 1: an eleven yard game, but Teddy slipped the pressure and
Speaker 1: just threw a beautiful ball to Patrick right on the
Speaker 1: other side of the sticks, and that was It looked
Speaker 1: like it was Treyvon's guy, at least at the start
Speaker 1: of the snap. Again, I don't know, maybe he tried
Speaker 1: to pass him off or whatever, but on those plays
Speaker 1: where it's hard to get leverage, that's where it seems
Speaker 1: like he struggles to me. But the fact of the
Speaker 1: matter with that, I think almost every cornerback is very hard.
Speaker 1: Probably the hardest ride to defending man is at that
Speaker 1: deep drag route because the guy has the leverage, he
Speaker 1: has the inside position to be able to go across
Speaker 1: the field and trying to keep up with that's just
Speaker 1: very difficult. Right. And then the very next play was
Speaker 1: a forty four yard touchdown, So I mean he had
Speaker 1: him chasing all over the field on that play, didn't
Speaker 1: make the play, extended the drive first down. The very
Speaker 1: next play they line up on the same side and
Speaker 1: they beat him for a touchdown. Yeah. I think, more
Speaker 1: so than anything with his play style, I worry. I
Speaker 1: just worry about the challenge of being kind of a
Speaker 1: lightning rod, because I think that's what Treyvon is right now.
Speaker 1: He's leading the league in interceptions, Cowboys can't keep his
Speaker 1: jersey on the shelves. Fans are just dying like, oh, Digs,
Speaker 1: he's Oh, he's our new Dion and then he plays
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. So everybody who doesn't love him
Speaker 1: hates him and thinks he's overrated. And you can like
Speaker 1: search his name on Twitter, you'll get both. It's a lot.
Speaker 1: I've been asked that ten times, is he overrated? And
Speaker 1: of course I answer the same thing, what's his rating?
Speaker 1: Like I hate that question, which is well, the thing
Speaker 1: that and I'm just relaying the information. I don't have
Speaker 1: an opinion on it, but I think PFF graded him
Speaker 1: out like one oh one overall in terms of his
Speaker 1: coverage grade for the season, and that made a big
Speaker 1: wave on social media, and social media is not a
Speaker 1: real place, but that's this. That stuff weighs on players.
Speaker 1: They don't like to admit it. Some of them are
Speaker 1: better at blocking it out than others. But there's just
Speaker 1: a firestorm around how good or not good treyvon Diggs
Speaker 1: is right now, and I hope he doesn't let that
Speaker 1: get to him. Yeah, I mean, but honestly, that's that's
Speaker 1: a lot of what I think we already kind of
Speaker 1: knew about him is he take chances. He can make
Speaker 1: some plays, he's got great hands, but but he also
Speaker 1: can get beat. Last year, he was a nice little
Speaker 1: bright spot on a bad team that nobody was really
Speaker 1: paying attention to. Now he is the face of the
Speaker 1: defense of the most polarizing team in the league, and
Speaker 1: that's a lot. That's a lot. I mean, Dak like,
Speaker 1: Dak is probably the only person on this team that
Speaker 1: can truly relate to what that's like. You know, I
Speaker 1: think it's profile is bigger than than Parsons right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he's on He's on pace first, I mean,
Speaker 1: and first of all, Mike is a rookie. Second of all,
Speaker 1: Digs is on pace to break like the all the
Speaker 1: all time ever record in the NFL. Like that was
Speaker 1: the pace. I don't know if he's still on it,
Speaker 1: but you get my point. And then he plays this
Speaker 1: position that is also polarizing, where you're either locked down
Speaker 1: or you're a bum like there's no in between. You're
Speaker 1: either getting cooked or nobody can throw on you. Again
Speaker 1: in the eyes of fans and social media, which shouldn't
Speaker 1: matter as much as it does. But that's the world
Speaker 1: that we live in. Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's
Speaker 1: do this real quick. I want to get to this
Speaker 1: other topic regarding the defense uh Cowboys yesterday Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: said that that. Uh or I saw that, so I
Speaker 1: think it was Dan Quinn maybe even it said it. Uh.
Speaker 1: He said they had fourteen miss tackles this game and
Speaker 1: this this game, which was a season high for them.
Speaker 1: Are you concerned at all about teams that come out
Speaker 1: and have that kind of running game, like, again, it
Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be a great running back, but
Speaker 1: just lining up and just running the ball right at
Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense. We saw New England have some success
Speaker 1: doing it. Are you at all concerned about what that
Speaker 1: tape looks like and if there are other teams out
Speaker 1: there that are willing to do that and on a
Speaker 1: day when you can get their offense not to be
Speaker 1: as explosive. It looks like it's something that can be
Speaker 1: an Achille zeal for this Dallas defense. Yes, you have
Speaker 1: to be concerned by it because they don't they have speed.
Speaker 1: They have they're more under size, they can get to
Speaker 1: the quarterback, they can get around and make plays. But
Speaker 1: if you get hat on a hat. They're gonna lose battles.
Speaker 1: Even Michael Parsons is gonna lose some of those battles.
Speaker 1: Right there, Layton vander esh is not doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: the same guy it was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: As far as taking on some of those blocks and
Speaker 1: getting hit like that the defensive line. Osa, those guys
Speaker 1: are quick, they got they got out there fast. But
Speaker 1: when they don't, they get beat. They get you know,
Speaker 1: they get well. Do you think that that maybe their
Speaker 1: quickness and their aggressiveness is also what's getting them hand
Speaker 1: that they're trying to get. Feel so quick and sometimes
Speaker 1: you get right out of the gap, of course, and
Speaker 1: so you know, there's just not a lot of big, strong,
Speaker 1: fast guys, you know in the NFL, I mean not
Speaker 1: super big and super fast. It just doesn't always work
Speaker 1: dk metcass right, I mean those guys that they're just
Speaker 1: not normal. So it's one of the other and Dexter
Speaker 1: Cokeley that win. Those guys they could fly around and
Speaker 1: slither around all that, but when they got hit by
Speaker 1: big sixty two coming right at him, they probably lost
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, So it's concerning. It's concerning that that
Speaker 1: they the way that the makeup is. I think Neville
Speaker 1: Gallimore when healthy, will help. And I think Tank Lawrence
Speaker 1: is a really good run stopper for being a defensive
Speaker 1: end that's high profile, he's a good run stop. Torrens
Speaker 1: are strong the same and how I wonder how much
Speaker 1: more they're going to give him because I think he's
Speaker 1: a better as good a run stopper as he is now.
Speaker 1: He's not a a perfect player, but I think it's
Speaker 1: a good run stop. I'll be interested to see how
Speaker 1: much they work him into the game. This is an
Speaker 1: ill adjust as I go if I'm wrong, But that,
Speaker 1: more than anything, I think, is the evidence that this
Speaker 1: team just wasn't mentally ready on Sunday because it was ugly.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Denver ran for
Speaker 1: four point six per carry, which is good but not incredible.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a lot of it was they got
Speaker 1: gashed well big play so but here's the thing. New
Speaker 1: England ran for four point four, Minnesota ran for four
Speaker 1: point two. Like they're not that great against the run.
Speaker 1: They haven't been all year. Having the lead is part
Speaker 1: of that. But even in closely contested games like New
Speaker 1: England and Minnesota they had some success with the run,
Speaker 1: but did you see just that embarrassing sort of effort
Speaker 1: where guys are constantly getting free, Like Dalvin Cook had
Speaker 1: one nineteen yard rush, I think it was Stevenson had
Speaker 1: a twenty yard rush. But by and large they're fighting
Speaker 1: for those yards. You're not seeing these lapses. Well, we
Speaker 1: saw Sunday was just probably seven plays that should have
Speaker 1: ended with a four or less yard carry that went
Speaker 1: much longer. The really embarrassing one, obviously being when Javonte
Speaker 1: Williams was like in a bear hug and just was like, nope,
Speaker 1: y'all are all. I'm done with all y'all yeah, um,
Speaker 1: And like it's just such an outlier from what we've seen,
Speaker 1: even when in games when they weren't good, you know,
Speaker 1: which just makes me think, I don't think y'all were
Speaker 1: ready to get smashed twenty five times the way that
Speaker 1: you typically should be. I think it's pretty obvious when
Speaker 1: you look at it. I mean, no one's gonna say it.
Speaker 1: I'll say it, but they missed Jayalen Smith. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding, but I was. I was, I was
Speaker 1: bracing myself as like nontroversy stop it, Nick. No, they don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone does right now. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: picked up, right, I don't think so we would have
Speaker 1: heard that, not that I'm aware of. Let's just leave
Speaker 1: him alone. No, no, But but they they miss a
Speaker 1: physical presence there, and and and Parsons and Laton they
Speaker 1: are they're physical players and they can do that. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that they missed jas when
Speaker 1: when they missed the guy that was going to the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, they missed that guy. I mean, he misses
Speaker 1: himself like that. I mean, but that that guy's not
Speaker 1: here anymore. But they do miss a big physical presence there,
Speaker 1: and that's one thing that he provides. And you know,
Speaker 1: Jabill Cox wasn't going to do that. He's more of
Speaker 1: a safety type guy, I know. I mean he did not.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones out pretty good. But I'm just saying, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying they need some physical type linebackers. And I
Speaker 1: brought not just linebackers. I brought this up on Twitter
Speaker 1: yesterday too. And I don't know this for sure. It's
Speaker 1: an underreported thing that they haven't had bren Urban for
Speaker 1: two weeks either, and that's he's not. His stats are
Speaker 1: not great, but that's his job is to just clog
Speaker 1: things up for everybody. He's a super strong, physical guy.
Speaker 1: He's playing thirty percent of the snaps before he got hurt.
Speaker 1: Probably early rushing downs would be your guests, right. Um.
Speaker 1: Having said that, somebody who doesn't know anything about football
Speaker 1: could watch that game against Denver and see that they
Speaker 1: were just running off right tackle at will. And that's
Speaker 1: not a Brent Urban thing. That's a setting the edge thing.
Speaker 1: Back to DeMarcus Lawrence, can you hurry back please, because
Speaker 1: he I know people don't want to hear it because
Speaker 1: of how much money he makes, but man, he's good
Speaker 1: at that. I want to know what the NFL record
Speaker 1: is for for tackles for loss in a loss. I
Speaker 1: mean that that's not normal. Ten tackles for loss. That's
Speaker 1: that's it was feast famine in that game. But by
Speaker 1: the time Alabama taken on you know, Samford, you know,
Speaker 1: like that's that's what happens when a you know, FBS
Speaker 1: takes on the FCS. By the time the game was over,
Speaker 1: you know, we get together after it's over and kind
Speaker 1: of huddle about what we want to write about and
Speaker 1: everybody's like, yeah, Micah, And in my head I was
Speaker 1: like really like because I mean, and he did, he
Speaker 1: had an amazing game, but by the time it was over,
Speaker 1: I just it just felt like an afterthought because you
Speaker 1: talked to him. No I did not, but he was pissed.
Speaker 1: It's a pity he gets pissed after wins. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just that's just his his nature. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: That's what I said yesterday about you know, I like
Speaker 1: what they what they have with him, because I think
Speaker 1: he just he's one of those guys. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: just it's a cliche, but he's a football player. That's
Speaker 1: what he is. You know, know what position he is, Linebacker, defenseman,
Speaker 1: He's a football player. He wants to keep getting better. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens, you know, in the next couple
Speaker 1: of years. He'll he's gonna get asked to do a
Speaker 1: lot of things. He already is getting asked to do
Speaker 1: all all that. If he keeps that kind of drive,
Speaker 1: which I think he will, I mean, I think he
Speaker 1: can be a really special player. Yeah, yep, all right,
Speaker 1: we gonna take our final break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little about the decision that
Speaker 1: they made to keep Dak playing in the end of
Speaker 1: the game. We had some response from mccarthyon that yesterday
Speaker 1: even ary this morning. Sounds like they're they're sticking by
Speaker 1: their decision. I want to get your opinions on whether
Speaker 1: you think it was the right decision. Will do that
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Speaker 1: We want treyvon Digs to be aggressive at times. Pick
Speaker 1: your spot and ASMR type of deal. Huh what are
Speaker 1: you saying? Day? I went for a bike ride on Saturday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: got Saturday off because we're at home. Went for a
Speaker 1: ride around the neighborhood, went out to the lake. You
Speaker 1: saw Santa I saw every other house on my way
Speaker 1: to the lake. Was just all, there's zombies in the
Speaker 1: front yards and skeletons. But go ahead and tell me
Speaker 1: that it's Christmas time. It's fine. Hey, our lights are
Speaker 1: going to be put up this week. Man, and I
Speaker 1: cannot wait. Weirdos cannot wait. This is Christmas? Your favorite holiday?
Speaker 1: You know? Well, the no, the holidays are my favorite
Speaker 1: holiday because I get to incorporate Thanksgiving, Christmas, my birthday,
Speaker 1: Dave's birthday. Like there's so much stuff to be grateful
Speaker 1: for during this season. I love it. It's awesome. Right.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's maybe that's where this comes from, is like,
Speaker 1: what is Dave's birthday? Saves my day? It's easy, it's
Speaker 1: easy to remember for met them there. Maybe there's something like,
Speaker 1: you know, us December babies, you always have to It's like,
Speaker 1: well what about me, Like it's my birthday too, Like
Speaker 1: maybe that's part of it where it's like, hang on,
Speaker 1: we got other stuff to get to before we can
Speaker 1: worry about one year we had four birthdays like in
Speaker 1: five days. Yeah, it's like Dave and Amber and Brian
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Speaker 1: like you're like one year, that's pretty much every year.
Speaker 1: It's the only one who's gone, That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And he's still kind of still kind of do maybe
Speaker 1: the way the week felt and it wasn't a weekend,
Speaker 1: it was whatever, what's your favorite holiday? Christmas? He just
Speaker 1: doesn't want us to rush you, that is I just
Speaker 1: you know that. I don't know, like I love the
Speaker 1: idea of Thursday's Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving it's its own thing. Everybody
Speaker 1: you have the big meal and then Friday. If you're
Speaker 1: into Black Friday, go for it. That's not for me,
Speaker 1: but college foot the rivalry games are on, and you
Speaker 1: can start putting the tree in the decorations up while
Speaker 1: the iron bowls on. It's just that feels right to me.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, but if you want to put
Speaker 1: your tree up now, that's this is America. Even in
Speaker 1: years where I wasn't like star Christmas earlier like I
Speaker 1: am now, it was still a true like for years,
Speaker 1: it's been a tradition for me. On my ride to
Speaker 1: the stadium Thanksgiving morning for Cowboys Thanksgiving game, I played
Speaker 1: Christmas music just because it's to me, that's kind of
Speaker 1: the beginning of the Christmas holiday is Thanksgiving, so that's
Speaker 1: that's fine. That like Thanksgiving weekend is when all bets
Speaker 1: are off in my opinion. All right, so we're fair there,
Speaker 1: which is two weeks away. But so stop it. You
Speaker 1: do whatever you want, do whatever you want. I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: That was the way I'm saying, So stop all the
Speaker 1: other stuff. All right, all right, So real quick, Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott played into the fourth quarter. Game was well out
Speaker 1: of hand. I think everyone knew at that point it
Speaker 1: was what it was. They were not going to win
Speaker 1: that game. He was still out there and playing. Michael
Speaker 1: McCarthy yesterday doubled down on that, said it was the
Speaker 1: right decisions what they need to do. Dak said, Hey,
Speaker 1: if anybody would have told me to come out out
Speaker 1: of being like, no, I'm not coming out, I'm playing
Speaker 1: that all being said, do you right, do you agree
Speaker 1: with the idea that he should have been playing at
Speaker 1: that point or do you just kind of like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's fine, he can keep playing. It's it's good for
Speaker 1: them to find some rhythm before the next game. One
Speaker 1: thousand percent agree, And I'll tell you why. I agree
Speaker 1: that he should have been out there if he wanted
Speaker 1: to be out there. He should have been out there.
Speaker 1: He's the leader of the team. And the example I
Speaker 1: have is the fourth quarter against Denver twenty seventeen. That
Speaker 1: moment will always stick out to me. As far as
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is a football player, that is out. He's
Speaker 1: a quarterback, but he is a he is a baller.
Speaker 1: He threw a pick I think a key to leave.
Speaker 1: He's either to leave or Chris Harris. I don't remember
Speaker 1: he win a hundred yards das ninety five yards round
Speaker 1: there battling with blockers and stuff, trying to make the
Speaker 1: tackle all that. His running back certainly didn't chase anybody
Speaker 1: that day. He was just trying to get over ten
Speaker 1: yards and I don't think he'd made it eight. He
Speaker 1: struggled that day and it was but not Dak was
Speaker 1: playing the whole game. He fought his ass off that day.
Speaker 1: That was the one time that I remember. It was
Speaker 1: the second year, but I was like this guy right here,
Speaker 1: win or lose, like you can go to with me,
Speaker 1: and and he did the same thing. So you don't expect,
Speaker 1: I mean win or lose. Fourth quarter. He's your guy.
Speaker 1: You can't be the guy when you know when when
Speaker 1: it's going well, you got to be the guy all
Speaker 1: the time, and he has been the most consistent when
Speaker 1: it comes to that, so he's got to be out there.
Speaker 1: It was to leave. You're right, Uh, this is the
Speaker 1: same argument as the preseason, Like there's the being smart
Speaker 1: you don't need to be out there, versus football players
Speaker 1: play football during football season, like that's what they do.
Speaker 1: I think you could probably strike a balance. I didn't
Speaker 1: have a problem with the first drive. The game got
Speaker 1: out of hand. They looked terrible. He hadn't played in
Speaker 1: three weeks. Live action reps are a good thing. I
Speaker 1: get all that, and they went and scored. I don't
Speaker 1: you make fun of me if you want keep getting
Speaker 1: the shut out out of there is an important Yeah.
Speaker 1: We're both like, yeah, I'm kicking a field goal. I'm
Speaker 1: not not getting shut No, I wouldn't like down fifty
Speaker 1: points on the five yard line. I'm kicking the end
Speaker 1: with two seconds left. I'm the go for it guy,
Speaker 1: but I'm kicking the field goal at that point because
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you're not gonna I'm not gonna have
Speaker 1: to think about this game forever, and that's my only
Speaker 1: shut out. This game is not going in the media. Guy,
Speaker 1: this isn't gonna be a sense this. Nope, nope, we're
Speaker 1: not doing that. When I told Todd Archer, who sits
Speaker 1: next to me from ESPN and he's writing a story
Speaker 1: about nineteen ninety one and an Eagles but home, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I'm sorry, now you can just delete
Speaker 1: that because they ain't not getting shut out. So there's
Speaker 1: a balancing act. I thought. The first drive, I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. The second drive, I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Why we're tempting fate? And
Speaker 1: I get everything you just said, but Dak is a
Speaker 1: guy that needs to be protected from himself. That's what
Speaker 1: we've been saying this whole time. He's gonna push it
Speaker 1: and maybe even too hard, and then to score the
Speaker 1: second can touchdown and run a QB keeper for the
Speaker 1: two point conversion? What are we doing? And that like,
Speaker 1: it's football and we play football, and that's just a no.
Speaker 1: We gotta use our heads a little bit more than
Speaker 1: that guy's. We gotta not be running our quarterback in
Speaker 1: a BS situation in a game that's already been decided.
Speaker 1: So what happens if and I think one of y'all
Speaker 1: mentioned this. Dak does get pulled out thirty to nothing,
Speaker 1: you're out and they lose thirty to sixteen. What happens then,
Speaker 1: meaning like Cooper Rush leads a scoring drive, two scoring
Speaker 1: drives down doesn't change it. I don't care. I don't
Speaker 1: change anything, not at all. Not y'all too. Maybe not,
Speaker 1: But I honestly, I don't think for anybody, because I
Speaker 1: don't think there's anybody out there is going to make
Speaker 1: the claim that Cooper Rush is a better quarterback than
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. Nobody with any real understanding of what's happening
Speaker 1: on the field is going to make that claim. Cooper's
Speaker 1: mom okay, fine, But by the way, Cooper's mom thought
Speaker 1: that's when the game started. She thought thought before the
Speaker 1: game started. This doesn't change down for her. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it changes anything. I'm just there's there's some arguments
Speaker 1: you don't really want to deal with. You know, Dak
Speaker 1: doesn't want to deal with that. We saw it at
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. He doesn't want to do about Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Dak. But I think that's also because Dak is
Speaker 1: just a football player. He wants to play. If the
Speaker 1: if the game's going on, he wants to play. Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not gonna sit here and say
Speaker 1: that they would be like, oh we should play this
Speaker 1: guy or not play this guy. But I think it
Speaker 1: then it comes down to was he ready? Because if
Speaker 1: everyone believes that Dak's better than Cooper Rush, then why
Speaker 1: is it that Rush comes in he played, he played
Speaker 1: really great again or played well against Minnesota they won,
Speaker 1: and then why is he coming in here doing this
Speaker 1: when Dak didn't Because we know at that point in
Speaker 1: the game, for the same reason the Cowboys got sixteen
Speaker 1: points there at the end of the game, defenses played
Speaker 1: you different when they're up thirty to nothing. Well, we
Speaker 1: didn't have to deal with it, so we didn't. I
Speaker 1: mean I would. I would kill for somebody to try
Speaker 1: to make that argument to me. If that had happened,
Speaker 1: I'll eat it alive. I mean, that's whatever would it
Speaker 1: would come. It's not about who's the a quarterback. It
Speaker 1: was the guy wasn't ready. He wasn't ready to come
Speaker 1: back and play. We thought he was. We thought one
Speaker 1: game that he was that was immediately. I mean, like
Speaker 1: the argument that he wasn't ready to play. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: obviously he played really poorly. It had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with his calf. I mean, go look at the way
Speaker 1: he was running for his life all day. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: play I brought up earlier. He gets flushed by three
Speaker 1: man pressure. He does like two loop the loops and
Speaker 1: then gets out to the to the boundary and then
Speaker 1: heaves it to Dalton Schultz. It must have been a
Speaker 1: sixty yard throw. You don't do that on a bum calf. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was rusty. He looked like crap. I think I
Speaker 1: think that was the worst game. That was the worst
Speaker 1: game that he's played since Cooper got here, bar none.
Speaker 1: Even I mean even like Buffalo nineteen, Buffalo Thanksgiving two
Speaker 1: years ago, Chicago two years ago. Like he's played some stinkers.
Speaker 1: I think that was the worst he's ever played since
Speaker 1: he kind of became since he took that step and
Speaker 1: it happened, and the coincide with a day when a
Speaker 1: lot of other guys around him we're also having You
Speaker 1: had receivers that when he did get the ball to him,
Speaker 1: didn't catch it. You had offensive line in that I know,
Speaker 1: and so was somebody on Twitter was making an argument, well,
Speaker 1: he actually had more time than he normally has in
Speaker 1: the pocket. This was about Dak. Well, No, I think
Speaker 1: the problem is if you watch a lot of those plays,
Speaker 1: he might have had a little more time before he
Speaker 1: threw the ball, but he was running for his life
Speaker 1: early on, and there were a number of times that
Speaker 1: that basically still just got beat around the corner and
Speaker 1: Dak was the one extending the play because he'd get
Speaker 1: out of that and then try to look for an
Speaker 1: opportunity to get the ball down. I don't like that
Speaker 1: stat at all because it's it's not always indicative of
Speaker 1: what happened. The stat was, I mean, how long he
Speaker 1: took before he threw the ball. Well, some quarterbacks can
Speaker 1: extend that play longer than others, roll out there because
Speaker 1: of their athleticism and then throw. It's like, well it
Speaker 1: took three seconds. It's not like he was standing there
Speaker 1: one Mississippi to Missippi, three miss If you throw it
Speaker 1: was one, holy f roll right whatever row. So yeah,
Speaker 1: So I just think it was that that was the
Speaker 1: tough part for this game is that not really no
Speaker 1: one on the offensive side. I don't think there was
Speaker 1: a single person on the offensive side of the ball
Speaker 1: that had a good day. Fine, there a lot of
Speaker 1: guys that had there had an off day? What's the
Speaker 1: fine for cussing? I feel like the last two days
Speaker 1: and who closer I'm getting me, I'm getting closer and closer.
Speaker 1: It's a job thing. Somebody ending on the words you do.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny, somebody asked me that question. I
Speaker 1: heard that before last week. It's not in the manual.
Speaker 1: I told you this too. They're asking about as our
Speaker 1: show live and I'm like, yeah, it's live. And they said, well,
Speaker 1: what happens if you drop an F bomb? Who's got
Speaker 1: the button? And I'm like, there's no button at least,
Speaker 1: but they yeah, like the cowboys, like the third floor,
Speaker 1: they've got the button. We just don't do it. Like well,
Speaker 1: what if you drop an F bomb in the middle
Speaker 1: of the show. I'm like, then did you'd probably just
Speaker 1: say okay, go and pack up your stuff. You don't.
Speaker 1: We go upstairs and we say, hey, well can you
Speaker 1: go in and kind of mess around with that because
Speaker 1: I make that call immediately like don't make this slive.
Speaker 1: I've had some I've had some moments. I've definitely had
Speaker 1: some dicey You've never gotten to that point though, luckily, yes, Derek. Yes,
Speaker 1: we've never gotten to that point. Knock on, alum. I
Speaker 1: do get a little worried every time we have somebody
Speaker 1: like Charles Haley on No it's I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what ch'all's gonna go with whatever answer he has.
Speaker 1: But luckily I don't recall us ever having death. This
Speaker 1: is purely equival It's not it's not worth saying. But
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I think Ezekiel Elliott is allowed
Speaker 1: to like look at himself in the mirror and say,
Speaker 1: I played pretty well in this game. He played a
Speaker 1: good game. He made an outstanding catch that kind of
Speaker 1: spurred them on when the game was that the one
Speaker 1: where you took off down the sideline after the injury.
Speaker 1: I averaged five yards of carry in a game where
Speaker 1: the run got away. I mean, because I wouldn't fight
Speaker 1: you on it doesn't matter. But like, for as much
Speaker 1: as we kill him when he doesn't deliver, he he
Speaker 1: did his part. I would try to help win this game.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't fight you on that. I don't know why
Speaker 1: the game got away from him. Yeah, and so they
Speaker 1: couldn't use him in the same way. But I don't
Speaker 1: know why I feel the need to bring that up,
Speaker 1: like he's he'll be fine. His paycheck. He got his
Speaker 1: paycheck today and it's very large, but he's good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know what though, I mean, if he gets and
Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily his fault, but if he gets, if
Speaker 1: he can get one yard on the first drive of
Speaker 1: the game, on the fourth and one, I mean, it's weird.
Speaker 1: Things can change totally differently and they still have to
Speaker 1: go further and score again. I mean, it was only
Speaker 1: like the forty yard line or thirty five or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I thought, and I had to look at it again.
Speaker 1: I thought he got cute trying to cut it back
Speaker 1: there when he didn't stay with the blockers on that play.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I haven't really looked at the
Speaker 1: end zone angle. I just felt I felt like the
Speaker 1: play was going that way and he and a lot
Speaker 1: of times you can kind of cut it back and
Speaker 1: you know, he's running the ball more than I have
Speaker 1: in games. But I don't know. I just thought, you know,
Speaker 1: the it's flowing that way, you've got Lael, you've got Amord,
Speaker 1: got the tight end, like, trust them to do their
Speaker 1: thing and you can get one. And he kind of
Speaker 1: cut it back and I mean you're cutting it back behind,
Speaker 1: be honest at that point. And nothing against him, but
Speaker 1: he's not the other two. You know, he's not the
Speaker 1: right side. That's why you run right you play right handed.
Speaker 1: And so um, I'm with you. I mean, he played great,
Speaker 1: but I mean those plays that it's I've honestly forgot
Speaker 1: about the early fours down. There's more to it than
Speaker 1: just him not getting it. But yeah, I mean could
Speaker 1: have changed the whole early part of that game, you know.
Speaker 1: And we didn't talk about this yesterday. I was a
Speaker 1: little nervous, just kind of like, this doesn't feel right.
Speaker 1: You know, what's noon and you know there's there's a
Speaker 1: lot of orange, and I thought there would be, but
Speaker 1: just you know, it's like, okay, there's a lot, you know,
Speaker 1: just keep looking and like, okay, you gotta have a
Speaker 1: spark here. And Tony Poller breaks off a fifty yard
Speaker 1: fifty four yard kickoff return and that bench was insane,
Speaker 1: like they were jumping around and they got the crowd
Speaker 1: into it. I was like, you know, this could be
Speaker 1: a play. I'm always looking for those five plays. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this could be one that that you could remember and go, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, there's could have been a little bit of
Speaker 1: a letdown, but boom, Tony Pollard fifty yards and then
Speaker 1: they're gonna go score right four out And so I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, Denver did a nice job of weathering
Speaker 1: that and saying now and stopping him. That was kind
Speaker 1: of key because that kickoff return was setting them up
Speaker 1: to get them sparked. Yeah, I thought I thought they
Speaker 1: were going to blow them out up until probably up
Speaker 1: until the long touchdown that made it what thirteen nothing
Speaker 1: like for the like the whole first even after Denver
Speaker 1: scored the first touchdown, I was like, this has happened
Speaker 1: a million times. I thought they would win on the
Speaker 1: block punt. I thought when it was sixteen to nothing,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this is setting up for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to have one of those games where they come
Speaker 1: back and they didn't play well in the first half
Speaker 1: and now they get going and they win his game.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until much later, like Dax said, when you
Speaker 1: have that realization that yeah, today they're not gonna win.
Speaker 1: So they're really not gonna win take your pick, even
Speaker 1: going all the way back, like we bring up the
Speaker 1: Jets games so much, even then it go. It went
Speaker 1: down to the final play like it's very unusual in
Speaker 1: my experience for a Cowboys team to just never kind
Speaker 1: of claw back into it. Just the whole thing is
Speaker 1: just a beating from beginning to end. All Right, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys you on this. We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We'll start talking Cowboys versus Falcons. Nick Carry, let you
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys are gonna direct the Falcons this week.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it tomorrow We're talk have we
Speaker 1: learned our lesson? Absolutely not, No, not at all. We're
Speaker 1: gonna double down. This will be tomorrow. We'll talk some
Speaker 1: Falcons offense versus the Dallas defense. Till then, for Nick
Speaker 1: Even and Dave, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The
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