WEBVTT - WELLNESS WISDOM 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.720 Gaby Race and Desmond Howard got me fired up in 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:11.520 this episode, inspired to train and eat and breathe and 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:17.599 recover and live smarter and better. Both my icon of 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:20.640 guests turned fifty this year. Nobody can believe that either 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.160 wonderm at that age, and they come at it from 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:26.520 different perspectives. Volleyball and football are very different sports, but 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:29.400 they also have a lot in common. They've learned what works, 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.720 and they're really generous about sharing it with other people. 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.600 And you don't have to be closing in on fifty 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.480 or past it to get a ton out of their 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:42.920 wisdom and their experience. You know, I wasted a lot 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.000 of years. I don't believe in regrets, but if I'm 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:50.440 being honest, for years I was sort of unfit. I 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.960 loved working out. That wasn't a problem, but I wasn't 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:55.720 that smart about it, and they didn't get the results 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.160 that I wanted. I didn't eat very smart. I didn't 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.960 drink smart. I would drink a lot more tequila and 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.320 mescal than wine and whiskey. It makes a difference. You 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:10.000 can look it up on the road. I didn't sleep 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:13.600 nearly enough when I got injured early in my life. 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:16.160 I didn't rehab properly at all, and I paid the 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:20.520 price that all turned around. I got three surgeries in 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.679 two years, two in the shoulder area, one in the knee, 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:28.400 and this time I attacked the physical therapy. I turned 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:32.520 weakness into strength and actually got stronger after the surgeries 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.680 and established a mind body connection, and that has been 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:40.240 really important in my life. But in my early years, 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.160 I certainly wish that I had listened to people as 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:49.360 sharp and passionate as Gabby and des are. We are 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.000 the ones that create the limitations. I do it to myself. 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:57.160 I'm not different than anyone else. I'm my own worst enemy. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.880 I'm the one who creates these boundaries because I'm a 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.720 right to try something new, and just to remind people that, 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.200 you know, being willing to try something new and having 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:08.840 you know, and they even talk about neural plasticity trying 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.160 these new things. It's like you're never going to regret that, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.400 and also put yourself in environments where people are supporting 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.440 you when you're doing something new. The fact that I'm 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:23.519 very competitive too, I mean I'm extremely competitive, So if 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.320 I see something, I just automatically look at it as 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.640 a challenge and then the competitive nature of me takes over. 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:34.440 So I think one of the one of the best 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.960 pieces of advice to that I've heard I got from 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:43.480 my mentor was you know, work smarter, not harder. You're 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.160 gonna enjoy my conversation with Dez coming up later. We 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:49.720 had some good laughs about the old game days and 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:55.600 his love affair with donuts. Gabby is a former Florida 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:59.519 State seminole, was a pro volleyball star and an international model, 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:04.359 and always created platforms to promote wellness and fitness ideas. 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:08.960 The Gabby ri Show on Apple Podcasts take some really 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:13.840 deep dives into fascinating topics. Her husband and business partners 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:18.720 a legend to Giant Waves, surfer adventurer Laird Hamilton's, and 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:22.480 together they're raising three daughters and splitting time between Malibu 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:26.160 and Hawaii. So earlier this year a milestone that freaks 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:28.960 out a lot of people. I didn't feel great about 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.960 turning fifty. How did you approach it emotionally and physically 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.960 as that date was getting nearer and then when it 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.400 hit you know, I actually, to be honest, I remember 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.040 forty being a lot more uncomfortable for some reason I 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:48.160 don't know, than fifty. And and I also think that 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:50.640 between forty and fifty I had a lot of things happened, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:56.640 especially as a parent, that really kept me focused on 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.400 things that were really important, but also weirdly with a 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.320 new level of surrender. If I might say this, like 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.520 you get to certain places in your parenting where you, uh, 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:10.480 you you learn to surrender. But you know it's like 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.360 almost everything, um is okay, I'm gonna work hard and 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.080 do the best I can, and like what are you 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.200 gonna do past that? And the other thing I have 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.479 learned that I think is really important is not to 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:23.600 spend too much time on things that are so out 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.920 of my control, Like I'm not going to stop time. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:30.120 And so one thing I've really tried to do a 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:32.520 lot of in my life is when I really know 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.960 I can't really change it, or it's something that like 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.159 New Yorkers would say, it is what it is, right, 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.599 it's like what are you gonna do? You're gonna torture yourself. 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.880 It's like, no, could I be my most badass self 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.240 right now? Let's go. And the other last thing, too, 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.919 is I'm always reminded I can't be younger today. But 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:56.000 in some weird way, there's something I could do to 0:04:56.120 --> 0:05:00.320 be better, for sure. But yeah, I wasn't like, also, 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.720 let me frame it up and not. I wasn't like, 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.960 oh my god, isn't it awesome I'm fifty? I was like, WHOA, 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.000 that's kind of weird. When did how did that happen? 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.320 I certainly and gracefully accept that I'm fifty. I have 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.760 three daughters. Um, you know, the other thing that's interesting 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.520 is when you're biologically sort of not in that prime 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.760 spot anymore. There's no better way to learn about that 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.000 as a mother than when you have three daughters and 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.120 you watch them all blossom sort of into that. And 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.200 so that what that does is you talk about acceptance. 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.440 She goes, Yes, I'm I'm not at that part of 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.960 my life at stage anymore. But I have a lot 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:41.880 of desires or dreams or I'm highly motivated to train 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.760 hard and do things, and so why shouldn't I even 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.960 if I'm a mom or fifty or someone's wife. Well, 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:51.320 acceptance is important. You seem to be lined up with that. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:55.239 Does defiance play a part? Saying that I'm not going 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:59.280 to listen to every signal and my body is sending 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.320 me Because some times the body is telling you to 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:04.000 pack it in, to quit, to not commit in the 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:05.800 same way you have in the past. What what role 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.919 does that sort of defiance play for you? You know, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.080 you'll You've talked to a lot of athletes, and you 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:15.080 know that no one ever plays You always play in 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.320 pain or discomfort of some type. No one's life is 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.679 ever fully perfect. I think part of living is part 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.440 of being able to move forward and continue towards progress 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:28.960 and growth even when you have things that are uncomfortable, 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:32.680 be it personal or physical. And I think that for 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:37.040 me personally, what I have learned the difference is when 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:39.880 it's hard and when I'm hurting myself, And so I 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.680 try really hard on my training not to hurt myself, 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.880 but by all means, I certainly go towards hard um 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:50.760 pretty often. Yeah, I mean beach volleyball and volleyball in 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.919 general incredibly rigorous sports. Sometimes people get caught up in 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.960 the trappings of the sport don't realize what hard ass 0:06:58.000 --> 0:06:59.960 work it is to to move around and get up 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:04.080 and down in the sand. I may describe the workouts 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.240 that you went through when you were sort of in 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.800 the in the peak days of your professional career, well, 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.000 I mean like every athlete, you'll hear I know so 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.960 much more today. Uh in my training, I wish I 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.760 was as sophisticated then as I was now. But certainly 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:22.360 my volleyball was very sophisticated, probably like three or four 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.920 hours in the sand. And then you're doing land training 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:30.040 to enhance your performance. Um, so whether it's versions of 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.360 pliometrics and and uh different types of the year, whether 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:37.160 you're maintaining during your competing time, or you're trying to 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.760 build strength and endurance in preparation for your season. But 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.840 you know what's interesting is I've gotten older and been around. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:49.280 But the only thing I always want to remind athletes, um, 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.040 young or old, is if you're in a repetitive sport. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:55.680 Every sport has repetitive motion. UM, part of your training 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.280 should be unwinding what you're winding up all the time, 0:07:59.400 --> 0:08:03.640 and unfortunate our training oftentimes he continues to reinforce those patterns. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.400 And so one thing I have learned is i've gotten older, 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.200 is I can work really hard, but I just need 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.240 to work hard in a different direction because I've been going. 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.200 Your sport takes you by nature. You know, if I'm 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.880 a picture by nature, this is what I'm doing. These 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.240 are my mechanics, right, So it's just it's just um, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.240 you know, and I didn't do like breath work. I 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.200 didn't do active recovery. When I was competing. I would 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.280 take a day off, but I didn't. Maybe you get 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.679 worked on. But the other thing is reminding people, especially 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:34.199 as they age, to participate in their recovery. So whether 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:38.080 it's stretching or breathing or getting a sauna or swim 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.839 in a pool, that it isn't just Okay, I took 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.800 the day off, but do stuff to actually boost your recovery. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:46.959 For sure. You mentioned a couple of things. Are there 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:49.560 other specific things that you wish you knew then that 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.400 you knew now that involved, if not training harder, but 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.720 training smart. What would you like to tell yourself from 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.080 a couple of decades ago, Hey, Gabby, this is what's 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.520 really important that you don't know yet. That flexibility and 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.680 stretching is so incredibly boring. If you're not naturally good 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.360 at it, you shy away from it. When you have 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.240 long levers and you're jumping athlete. Normally you're not good 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:11.760 at it, But to do it because you might save 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.720 yourself a lot of headache. Um, I listen, I think 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.560 I have an artificial need because of a lack of 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:21.640 hip and ankle mobility and tight quads that were like 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.400 beef jerky. I don't think there was anything wrong with 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:28.040 my knees right, and so I would have definitely said, 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.120 I know it sucks, and it takes an extra ten minutes. 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.080 And you have here and there to go and places 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:36.120 to you know, go to and people to see. Take 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.800 the time and do it. You seem really at piece 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:41.760 as you should be with where you are now. But 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.160 many athletes I've talked to go through almost some morning 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:50.360 phase when they understand that peak condition that they took 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.240 great pride in being able to achieve. They're not going 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.400 to be there again. It's gonna have to redefine maybe 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:56.760 what peak condition is. But that's really difficult for a 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.800 lot of athletes, whether it's an endurance sport or a 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.480 or a contact sport. A lot of men have expressed 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:03.720 that to me, did you go through any sort of 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:09.520 period like that? Uh, you know, yes and no. Mostly no, 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.520 because let's face it, I played beach volleyball and that's 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.840 a very small platform. So I always had my eyes 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.960 on the horizon. I was always really well aware of 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.440 the limitations, and so I was always doing many things. 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.280 And it wasn't really because I didn't love volleyball. It 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.520 was because I had. I was like, I did all 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.040 those things to to support my habit of playing volleyball. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.800 So it wasn't like a basketball or football where it's 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.400 like all in and then all of a sudden you 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:34.440 look up and you're like, you know what happened. But here, 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.280 this is what I say to a lot of athletes. 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.480 I will have athletes to come and train with us. 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:41.280 And I had a kid form played Clemson football, double 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:44.040 knee surgeries. He's done and probably talented enough could have 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:45.600 at least had a shot in the NFL. But it's 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.679 not gonna happen, right, And I said, I always try 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:52.200 to remind athletes you're like a loaded gun. You just 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.200 have to pick your next target, you know, And to 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.000 not think that that's all who you are, that is 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.839 your identity. No, that is something that you, as the 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:04.480 individual person, chose to express yourself. And within that there 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.559 was camaraderie. There was hard work. There was learning. If 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.240 you were lucky enough to have a good coach, there 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.640 was some interesting mentorship um. And then there was competing 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.440 at this high level, that frequency that like when you 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:17.480 get to touch it once in a while, you're like, man, 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:22.080 this is all pistons firing. But we can do that 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.000 in other places in our life. We just have to, 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:28.880 you know, recalibrate, redirect that action. UM. And having said that, 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:32.480 I think it's also important for an athlete to be 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.319 reminded what a great thing that you got to experience 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:40.640 something at that high level. Now, if there is a 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.640 reminiscent and there's something sad about it, but how lucky 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.600 for you that you got to experience something at such 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.480 a high high level. And now what do you want 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.160 to do? Because I think we don't give ourselves enough credit. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.760 I don't mean athletes, I just mean human beings that 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.960 if you really were willing to work hard and work 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.079 towards a goal and work with other people, UM, that 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:05.640 in this next phase, they can do it. But they 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:09.040 just have to, you know, put effort towards what is 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.960 that One of the companies you and your husband are 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:17.640 involved with, XPT fascinates me stands for extreme performance training, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.440 and the extreme is an interesting definition of how you 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:24.760 guys define extreme because it really is so well rounded 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:26.880 and so holistic, and we'll cover some of the things 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.280 that are under the x XPT umbrella. But what we 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:33.120 was sort of the reason behind putting this company together 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.040 and combining the various things you guys were expert in 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:40.360 from breathing, moving, recovery well. So we didn't really even 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.160 want to do this. But a girl I used to 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.760 compete with who then UM was a very dear friend 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.240 of mine since and then we we never really played together, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.040 but we played at the same time, and then we 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.360 started working together. She watched us for like ten years 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.760 doing in this training, especially the pool training, and then 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.000 we incorporated heat nice and then started learning about breathing 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.440 UM and this really through whim Hoff. And then there's 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.320 a great book for anyone who wants to read it, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.640 even just people have to sit their desk all day long, 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:08.800 called The Oxygen Advantage by a gentleman named Patrick McCune, 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.560 which will tell you why you should be nose breathing 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.480 all the time. UM. And she's like, you have to 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.240 share this with other people, and we were like, we 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:19.040 don't know anything, and how are you gonna people fly 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.599 around from around you know far and spend to a 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:23.600 tough days with us, but anyway, it was born out 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.040 of that, and the pillars of that are breathe, move 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.920 and recover. So obviously Laird being a surfer and Lay's 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.040 sort of the creative impetus for all of this. He's 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:34.160 the most curious and we'll try things if it makes 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.520 sense and mess around with it. So breathing, imagine first 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:41.280 a big wave surfer. There's something extra right, like oh, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.880 they're held under and like the you know, the precious 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.480 breath if you will. But really, once you get into 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.320 the practice of breathing, you realize how most of us 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.320 are not doing it correctly. So that's and that's the 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.760 essence of life. Okay, we can do without food and 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:56.800 water and all these things for quite a long time. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:00.520 Breathing air not so much so movement. You know, we're 0:14:00.559 --> 0:14:03.200 physical beings. We just need to move our bodies. And 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.120 even with an XPT, we're not here to tell you 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:08.120 how to move. We will make suggestions, but ultimately it's 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.079 getting people to be like, huh, how do I want 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.040 to move? You know some people back I can't even 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:13.920 step inside a gym, and you go, great, there's a 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.960 million ways to do it, and then recovery, which is 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.440 what I alluded to earlier, which is like actually the 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.480 boosting or the supporting of your recovery, be it through 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.320 stretching or breath work or getting mobility or self care. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.640 Like there's a great program called by a woman named 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:30.440 Joe Miller. I don't have anything to do with it. 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.200 I just know it's a great resource called Yoga Tune Up. 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.440 And she basically will teach you how to scrape every 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.800 part of your body and get you know your your fashion, 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.200 get everything unlound that you can do, and she has 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.800 a whole kit and it's pretty genius and and so 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.320 getting people to be responsible for their recovery. But if 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:51.200 you talk to Laerd, it's like it also means get 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.440 to better early. It also means try to eat well. 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.320 It also means don't fill your time and your brain 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.440 with a bunch of crap. And it also means like, 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.880 how are your relationships Like when you really talk to him, 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.280 he's talking about the flywheel, And so we wanted to 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:09.840 present that because I think the idea of sharing and 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.880 saying well, we've been in this this seems to be 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:14.840 working for us and our friends, but also reminding people 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.240 that if we talk to them in a year, maybe 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.520 things that we're learning or sharing will be different. Because 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.200 I think that's the other thing, is reminding people not 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.560 to ping around, but to stay open minded to continuing 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.440 to learn so that you can continue to adapt and improve. Yeah, 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.320 I'm going to dive into of looking forward to getting 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:35.680 deeper and what you guys are doing. But adaptabilities what 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.280 I wanted to ask you about. I'm glad you brought 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:39.800 that up because obviously, with what we've been through with 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.360 the pandemic, people are forced to constantly adapt with yoga 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.200 studios and pools and gym's closed. What your program seems 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:51.360 to do is to instill those skills in people that 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.960 they can not focus on what they don't have, but 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.800 what they're able to do and still get great results. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.600 That's got to be satisfying to see how people you've trained. 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.840 Have you use that in the last four or five months. Actually, 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.000 it's also trying to use the platform to connect to 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.440 other people with each other so they can support one 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.960 another on this online community right now, because the other 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.560 side of this is I couldn't get it done every week, 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.080 and I don't think LAIC could either without the support 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.800 that we've created, and it's to remind people that very 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.760 few people, even the greatest athletes I've ever met in 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.360 the world, can get it done alone. So how do 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:28.720 you put in place that system that makes you successful? 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.640 Not that you should fly out of bed every day 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.400 and be like I can't wait to get after it, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:36.240 but saying, okay, where would I fall short or fail? 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.320 And how do I put a system in place so 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.080 that I have the opportunity to be successful. You've got 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:46.040 such strength and you describe intensity as a person. Not 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.840 everyone who's gonna come to this or be listening to 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.840 this is going to have those same qualities. They're not 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.800 going to have an elite athlete background. What what do 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.120 you say to people who who want to dive in 0:16:56.160 --> 0:17:00.000 but maybe they don't think that they have those qualities? 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:05.200 Is insignificant quantity to really succeed at this. I always 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.600 remind people that when we do stuff like this, like 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.359 it isn't actually about Layard Night. It's about the individual 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.520 person and so wherever they are, that's their baseline, and 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:19.000 it's just about taking you to your best. Because I 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:20.479 think at the end of the day would be like 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:23.400 me comparing myself to Layard or I have kids. I've 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.400 had guys come to my house that are twenty six 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:27.320 year old guys in the NFL. Like, am I going 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:31.199 to compare myself to them? No, I'm not. So. The 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.960 whole thing is, and this is true to life, is 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.920 how do we look inside of ourselves, be honest with ourselves, 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.440 say Okay, I could probably do better, I could probably 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.720 do more, I could probably push myself more. And also 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.000 to remind people that we are the ones that create 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.440 the limitations. I do it to myself. I'm not different 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:54.520 than anyone else. I'm my own worst enemy. I'm the 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.440 one who creates these boundaries because I'm afraid to try 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.399 something new And just to remind people that, you know, 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.520 being willing to try something new and having, you know, 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:06.600 when they even talk about neural plasticity, trying these new things, 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.359 it's like, you're never going to regret that. And also 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.800 put yourself in environments where people are supporting you when 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.440 you're doing something new. When people come to XPT, Lard 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:19.040 and I always say we can find anyone who can 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.520 show you how impossible it is. That's not what we're doing. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.560 We're not here to show you that we can crush you. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:29.240 We're here to usher you and guide you into your experience. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:34.119 That's it. It's such an interesting collection of folks that 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:36.800 seem to drop by your house and train, whether it's 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:40.440 in California or Hawaii. And and what what an eclectic 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.560 interesting group, not all athletes and other figures, some famous people, 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.280 some not famous people. I mean that must be really 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:50.000 interesting to have that kind of collective energy and really 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:54.760 different mindsets together. What have you gotten from people who 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.600 maybe have far lesser athletic backgrounds, but but they have 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.680 their own experiences? What have you learned from them when 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.480 they come hang out with you? Guys? You know, we 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.360 have a lot. I always tell the people we do these, 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.560 like you know, meet and greets in them beginning, I'm like, 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.600 I know, you're all alpha's in your own world. So 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.240 if it's a CEO person or a hedge fund or 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.919 a VC guy or you know, I've had a lot 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.840 of ladies that will say, oh, it was my whatever 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:21.440 birthday and I gave myself a present. Um. And what 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:28.159 you see is one common thing UM is the ability 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:32.240 to stay curious and to try UM. And also like 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.160 we let's say Alpha's right, so we have a lot 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:38.720 of alpha's. Everyone's more spectacular than the next right that 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.399 comes to the house. And we always say leave your 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:45.560 sword at the door, right, like we're all just you know, 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:50.720 getting through and making it and um, you know, so 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:56.240 humility and just the openness to not knowing everything and 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:59.840 to trying new things. Um. And that's what you realize 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:03.119 that myself and a seventy year old woman with the 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:07.800 twenty five year old boy young man, we could share 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:12.360 that value and we could connect better than people who 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:15.520 would appear to be more similar to us. Because when 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:19.159 people are open minded and curious and willing to say 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.280 I'm scared, but I'll try it. Um, we can you 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:29.120 can connect. The holistic approach of your company is what's 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.560 impressive to me. There are people who believe that all 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:37.440 improvement is interconnected, that improvement in one area is by definition, 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.720 improvement in the whole. How does that come into play 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.000 for you guys where when it's is very there's very 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:44.920 much a mental I don't know if you call it 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:49.439 a spiritual component, but that goes with the physical. I 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:51.600 don't know. I think it depends on your approach, right. 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.119 I think if you're moving in a way and eating 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.840 in a way that supports you sets you up to 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:02.520 the opportunity to probably form better, whether it's in your relationships, 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:07.320 at your work, dealing with your own personal issues, whatever 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:09.639 that is. But I don't know that it's a guarantee 0:21:09.720 --> 0:21:12.600 because I know a lot of high performing people that 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:17.359 can move better than anyone on the planet, any perfect diets, 0:21:17.640 --> 0:21:20.280 but they also use it as an escape and something 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:24.040 to control. And so that's where we fall short if 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.679