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Speaker 3: The world also knows our guest from movies like The Crow,

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Speaker 4: How how are you.

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Speaker 3: We're so sorry that it's just the two of us

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Speaker 4: With us list that's okay. You guys are just is fun.

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Speaker 1: I think I've heard about this is where they like

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Speaker 4: And what was so intriguing about it was They're like,

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Speaker 4: and Dwight Howard.

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00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: Wow.

438
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 4: And I was just really proud of like the women

439
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 4: who how we showed up and how we powered through

440
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 4: and what we were able to accomplish.

441
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: Good for you, man, that was really fun so incredible

442
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 3: and what a great what a great image for your

443
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 3: kids to see of you, you know.

444
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 4: It was It was really cool because I think oftentimes

445
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 4: like I'm like, I'm not the one that's sport. I'm

446
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 4: not the one that's out there skiing with them. I'm

447
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 4: not you know, take them everywhere and do everything. But

448
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 4: I'm not the one that's active. Like their dad is

449
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 4: like far he's the athlete, and I'm never was because

450
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 4: I was on stead. We couldn't do that because we'd get.

451
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 3: In trouble, correct.

452
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 4: Like you know. So it was nice for them to

453
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 4: be able to see. And it was funny too because

454
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 4: when they asked me, They're like, are you afraid of heights?

455
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know.

456
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: Right, I've never been.

457
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. They're like, okay, well, we're gonna make

458
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 4: you cross a ravine. You're gonna be two hundred feet

459
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 4: up in the air and you're just gonna be on

460
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 4: a tightrope and you're just gonna go for it.

461
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, yeah, OK, then guess what. I

462
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: am afraid of heights.

463
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Speaker 4: And then they're like, they're like are you They're like,

464
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 4: are you afraid of water? And I'm like, well, you know,

465
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 4: I don't want to drown. And then the next thing

466
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: they do is they put us in a humby and

467
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 4: submerges water, and.

468
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 3: Kids watching that gave me. I was like, oh my gosh,

469
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, O my god, my it was terrifying.

470
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 4: What's funny, though, is like if you ask me to

471
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 4: do normal things on a normal day, I'm like, I

472
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 4: will not walk across the street. There's a risk of

473
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 4: getting hit by a car. But yet I will go

474
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 4: in a hummer and be submerged and be told by

475
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 4: these like special forces guys like.

476
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: You'll be safe, You'll be okay, you'll be fine.

477
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,239
Speaker 4: And I and as I was doing it, and I

478
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 4: was like, no, I'll just I'm gonna do it. I'll

479
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 4: try it. I'm like, hope I don't die, but I

480
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: could do it. It was crazy, But it's also the mentality

481
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 4: shifts because like normally you would like wouldn't do any

482
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,959
Speaker 4: of these things that they tell you to do, but

483
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 4: then because of who you're with, you're like, all right,

484
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 4: let's let's try it.

485
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: But I also wonder how much of that comes from,

486
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, because there's there's a certain level of courage

487
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: or recklessness of about being an actor, right, like you

488
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: just have to oh what And you know, as since

489
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: we started as kids, like we always have to be

490
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: game to just jump into the scene and do the

491
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: thing or put on the wacky clothes, whatever it is

492
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: that we're being asked to do. So I wonder how

493
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: much of that was just like, well, the show must

494
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: go on, how to jump in them vie.

495
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 4: And you know what's also weird too, is because you know,

496
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: on the reality side of it too, I realized, like

497
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 4: how much more comfortable I am being vulnerable in front

498
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 4: of a camera than I am interesting, So I'm like,

499
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: what kind of messed up world am I that? I'm like,

500
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: I have a lot of trauma I need to talk about.

501
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 4: Put a camera on me, let's discuss it. And then

502
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 4: I'm like just like here it is, and that's sad,

503
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: but that is honestly, like if I think of all

504
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 4: my most vulnerable moments in my life have been captured

505
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 4: on camera, whether it's coming through playing a character. Like

506
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 4: we had an episode where my friend passed away in

507
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 4: the show on Seventh Heaven, and that had happened to

508
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 4: me and it was written based on my experience, but

509
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 4: I hadn't cried until the camera's rolled and until I

510
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 4: was able to step into that space, because that's where

511
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 4: my safe space is. My safe space is in front

512
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 4: of cameras because we've been doing it. I've been doing

513
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 4: it since I was four.

514
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: Wow.

515
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: So really, there should be an actor therapist's office in

516
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: LA where they.

517
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: Just have a full crew and the camera set up.

518
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: And then I think we would all be game.

519
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: We'll be like, wow, yeah it is oh my god,

520
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: and the team can just be for you. It doesn't

521
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 3: have to go over just for you, just to create the.

522
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: Right space so you get into the zone.

523
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 4: But isn't it weird though, Like how just also how

524
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,120
Speaker 4: conditioned we are to also knowing and being so comfortable

525
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: because that's also what everybody's like, I would be so

526
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 4: uncomfortable with cameras. I'm like, I am more comfortable with you.

527
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So when when they took this part of

528
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: your real life because they you know, we've talked about

529
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: how employments world, they did some of that too.

530
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: How did you feel about that? Did they like ask

531
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: if it was okay?

532
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 4: Or she asked Brenda Hampton, who is our writer and

533
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 4: creator and through the whole eleven seasons, mind.

534
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: You, which is wow.

535
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 4: There we had her the whole time. She she asked me,

536
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: it was because it was right after our our first

537
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: season that my friend passed away, and the next season,

538
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: She's like, I just think that there's an important story

539
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: to tell. Would you be willing to do this? And

540
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,680
Speaker 4: you know, obviously like at that point in time too,

541
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 4: I was like wanting just to make my boss happy.

542
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, it is, yeah, of course, of course,

543
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 4: And I'm glad I did. I'm glad that I was

544
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: able to like give that opportunity to tell that story

545
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 4: because it was it was important for me for healing.

546
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 4: And then I also think it was great for the

547
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 4: audience because I've had a lot of people come up

548
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 4: and said, you know, that episode really like impacted me

549
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: because unfortunately, like kids in cars, it's really damn scary.

550
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely so.

551
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think it's it is interesting. And also

552
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: after eleven years, so much of our lives overlapped into

553
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 4: our character stories, because how can it not, because just

554
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 4: life happens. I mean, it's with you guys.

555
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's impossible for it not to. They're

556
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,959
Speaker 3: they're trying to tell you know. I think now of

557
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 3: like being forty four years old and trying to write

558
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: for a fourteen year old, how would I not be like, wait,

559
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 3: hold on, what's going on in your real life? I think,

560
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: why don't we why don't we use this? Because like

561
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 3: you don't, I can? I can? I was I was

562
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: just watching a TikTok where someone was talking about how

563
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 3: that the older you get, the harder it is to

564
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: tap into the emotions and what it actually felt like

565
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: to be a young person totally, and like I can.

566
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 3: I can, like, in a vague sense remember what it

567
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 3: felt like to be a teen, But the farther I

568
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: get from it, the harder it is to actually bring

569
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 3: myself back to the feelings. So yes, of course you

570
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 3: want to use those kids. Ask the kids what are

571
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: they doing?

572
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: And then they're also usually we also are usually cast

573
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: because we kind of are a type or we give

574
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: off a vibe that is the character, right, So because

575
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: I mean that the act part is a little less

576
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: evolved because you're just less evolved. So you're gonna get

577
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: cast because you kind of are hopefully someone in the

578
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: wheelhouse of this person and they trust that.

579
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. And it's funny because everybody's always like, how how

580
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: different are you from your character? I'm like, honestly, like

581
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 4: I'm not really sure where Lucy ends and where beveryone.

582
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 4: There's so much in the open, and I'm like, also

583
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 4: when you're something for eleven years, like yeah's you know,

584
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I wasn't playing a bad character, so

585
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 4: I you know, it was a.

586
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 3: We're very connected, Yeah, And.

587
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: I think like that's what when David Mack and I

588
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 4: talk and when we've been watching the show back on

589
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: our podccast, Yeah, casting up with the camp Dens. We

590
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: it's been it's been really funny. And also there's so

591
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: much that I think, I'm sure you guys relate that

592
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: the audience remembers the stories so differently than we do,

593
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 4: and so when we're like they have the show, we

594
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: have the experience. But it's like also because people are like,

595
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 4: what's your favorite episode I'm like, it wasn't an episode

596
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: for me. It was life experience. Is what happened outside

597
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 4: of the episode. That is what I remember, not because

598
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: I even half of these episodes were watching. I'm like,

599
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 4: I don't remember that.

600
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't.

601
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: What did what?

602
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: What were we doing?

603
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: What were we thinking? But other things I remember in

604
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 4: the wardrobe room picking out, having my array of Dickies

605
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: because that's when Dickies were in, and I had every

606
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: single color Dickis and I had every single color Juicy

607
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: couture because that was the best part of wardrobe is

608
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 4: like basically getting them to buy what you liked and

609
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 4: then borrow it on the weekends exactly. It was the

610
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: best part. It was like a free closet. It was amazing.

611
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: You guys were single camera, which is also very different

612
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: because it means that you know, with a cast, everybody

613
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: could be having completely different experiences per episode. You would

614
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: never have seen even what like yeah see, we at

615
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: least had like show night where everybody came together and

616
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: we had run throughs.

617
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: So it was the sense of continuity.

618
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: So it must be so crazy to talk back now

619
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: and be like, where were you that week?

620
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: What were you doing? And have completely different experiences.

621
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because there were days where, like you know,

622
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: especially if there's sometimes where we didn't even see other

623
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 4: actors because they weren't in our storyline for that episode.

624
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was. It was. And it was also

625
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: long because we took eight eight days to shoot an episode,

626
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: so it took us a lot longer. But I mean

627
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: that being said, we were still the dream drama because

628
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 4: like we were, we would actually work. We wouldn't work

629
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: a really long day. We were we were the show

630
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 4: that you could possibly in the later years, not in

631
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: the early years, but in the later years, we could

632
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: get be done by lunch. Really, yeah, what we were

633
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 4: we were so fast. We were like, let's take some time,

634
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 4: I hold us for one shot after lunch because we

635
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 4: had to, like we had to basically keep everybody till

636
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 4: after lunch. But we we were so efficient. But that's because,

637
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 4: like we were the well oiled machine. So when people

638
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: came and guest starred on our show, they're like, what

639
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: is this magic? And how can we come back here?

640
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: Because this is the easiest job we've ever done.

641
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I want to hear about this, mat hold on, So wait,

642
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: you were shooting okay, where were you shooting you were

643
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: on We.

644
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 4: Were in Santa Monica. We were in an abandon it

645
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: was they made garage doors. Okay, that's what the Yeah,

646
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 4: it was an abandoned warehouse, okay, had and they turned

647
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 4: it into a sound stage. We worked for Aaron Spelling,

648
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 4: so he was frugal, which is why he was so successful.

649
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: But we kind of were on our own little island.

650
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 4: We didn't have anybody with us.

651
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: It was just us, and most of it was on

652
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: the stage.

653
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: Like you most of us was on stage.

654
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 4: And they started to build all of our sets, like

655
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: you know, we'd have the outdoor promenade, they'd build that,

656
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 4: then they built the backyard, and they built that in

657
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 4: the back so we literally like rarely had to leave

658
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: our little home in Santa Monica.

659
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: And then were you truly single camera or did you

660
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: guys have more than one?

661
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: At the beginning, we were truly were single. And then

662
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: we'd start to have like two cameras that we'd set

663
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: up at the same time, but you know, we couldn't

664
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 4: always use them based on the shot. The hard part

665
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: at the beginning was just we had so many kids.

666
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: There were so many of us that were I was

667
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 4: Barry was obviously an adult, but then I was the oldest.

668
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 4: Then it came Jesse, who was a year younger than me.

669
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: Were you when you started?

670
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 4: I started when I was fifteen, Jesse was fourteen, David

671
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 4: was ten, and Mac was six.

672
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's okay.

673
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: So we had lots of kids and a dog, you know,

674
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 4: and they always say like, don't do a show with

675
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 4: kids and.

676
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: Dogs, kids and animals.

677
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, kids and animals, any animals.

678
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 3: And he was like yeah, yeah.

679
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: So so for the the joke is like for the

680
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 4: first season, like Barry basically worked with a lot of

681
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: c stands because.

682
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Kids after nine and a half hours, And.

683
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was funny because even when we were talking

684
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 4: to him and he's like, I don't remember you guys

685
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: working with you guys, so like I don't think you

686
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: guys were all that great. And I was like what

687
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: do you mean and he's like, well, I never worked

688
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: with you, and I'm like that's not true. I'm like

689
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: this you did, and he's like, you guys were always

690
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 4: in school. He's like, you guys always had to leave.

691
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: But so then we're the rest of you were you

692
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: guys all then in scenes together? The kids because how

693
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: did you get to know each other and become comfortable

694
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 3: and develop chemistry.

695
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 4: Jesse and I were always in the school room together

696
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: because we were also the closest in aid, so a

697
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 4: lot of our scenes were always together. And then Mac

698
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 4: and David had a lot of their stuff together. And

699
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: I mean we we did spend a lot of time together,

700
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 4: and we did we became truly a family because as

701
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 4: you do when you share an experience that no one

702
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 4: else in the world will ever understand. And it's funny

703
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: because after all these years, because our show ended in

704
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven, and after all these years, like

705
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: when we all got back together, it was like no

706
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: time had passed. Yeah, and you know at those nineties

707
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: cons like when you it's just it's the best reunion.

708
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 4: And then also the reunion with other shows has always

709
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: been fun because we have this it's like going to

710
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: high school and it's like a high school reunion with

711
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: all these people who at some point in time we've

712
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: kind of come into paths with, maybe not have been

713
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: the best of friends, but like definitely have a mutual

714
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 4: understanding and relationship and friendship, and it's it's always so

715
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 4: fun to connect and like to connect with you guys,

716
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 4: because it's like I was watching you guys too, you know,

717
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 4: and we have this understanding of what life looked like back.

718
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, that's what I say. It's like high school

719
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: every time. Like I just imagine, you know, when you

720
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: meet people who you who grew up in the same

721
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 3: neighborhood you did, and you just instantly feel a shorthand

722
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 3: with them. You're like, right, we we we know all

723
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: the same stores and restaurants and people and neighbors. Like

724
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: I already know you, even if you weren't friends with

725
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 3: the with other fellow actors in the nineties or whatever,

726
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: there is a just a shorthand.

727
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 4: Well, and there's like such an overlap. There's an overlap

728
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 4: of people like Andrew Keegan. But I mean he was

729
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 4: on every nineties show. Are you sure was?

730
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: But he was for a while on your show, right

731
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: he was?

732
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was Jesse's boyfriend. He had a kid on

733
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 4: our show.

734
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, he had a kid.

735
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a kid, Wilson. Actually he was. And

736
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 4: he was in the episode where my friend passed away.

737
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: He was. He was in that episode. And because I

738
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 4: think his girlfriend or wife or baby mama, and I

739
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 4: think that's what he was, like he was in a

740
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 4: group where we were talking about death and healing and whatnot.

741
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: But I was, yeah, you know, it's it's always so

742
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: funny and even like uh, Jody Sweeten and Christine Linkn

743
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 4: and we did Hollywood Darlings together, but like it's you know,

744
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 4: this little world that we live in is just such

745
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 4: a silly, like fun magical. It was such a good time.

746
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: Like I feel sad for all the young actors today,

747
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: but they don't get what we got. I know, because

748
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: we had it. We had it the best.

749
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: We really did, for sure, we did so much of

750
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 3: the show has become like TikTok infamy, pulling clips of

751
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 3: just the most ridiculous moments. At the time that you

752
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: were shooting it, did you know that some of the

753
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 3: storylines were a little maybe unhinged, or were you guys

754
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: talking about some of the crazier storylines or did it

755
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: just feel normal?

756
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 4: I mean I think that, yeah, I mean I think

757
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 4: there's some things that were like okay, But you know,

758
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 4: I think also I was like such the like I

759
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 4: will do whatever you say, like I am people, please it,

760
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 4: I am on it, Like I will not question you.

761
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: I do not question authority. I am here to do

762
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: whatever I'm supposed to do. It is funny though, watching

763
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: it back and also seeing some things that aged well

764
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: and some things that definitely didn't. Yeah, and that's that's fun.

765
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 4: And I mean I think we also knew we were

766
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 4: a drama, but we weren't. We were also comedic. There

767
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 4: was definitely like we didn't take ourselves too seriously. We

768
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: knew how to play it. And Bury jokes that like

769
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 4: the times were like he couldn't really like relate to

770
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 4: the character. He just would like go to another place.

771
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: And and that's also what made his performance so great

772
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 4: is that like he never took it too serious, which

773
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 4: is what I think allows the content to be delivered

774
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 4: in such a way that people can understand it and

775
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 4: enjoy it. But like, yes, Rob Anderson has had an

776
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,959
Speaker 4: absolute field day with us, and it is fun because

777
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 4: when I started seeing those videos, I was like, I

778
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 4: am in, I want in, let me let me do

779
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: a video with you because this is just ridiculous and

780
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 4: fun and we don't take ourselves very seriously at also

781
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 4: like let's have some fun with this. And he came

782
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: on the show too, and we did a rewatch with him, which.

783
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 3: Was fun, too great, That is so fun.

784
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: He had a lot to say.

785
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite thing that you look back

786
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: now and say, oh, that was pretty absurd?

787
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: Like we we took it to an extreme.

788
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 4: I mean the I smoked pot is like epic with

789
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 4: Annie and just the the extreme of like what they

790
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: were making marijuana. I would do, be right, what is just?

791
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 4: And like I think we just watched an episode two

792
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: where like tattoos were basically like if you have a tattoo,

793
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 4: then you are a criminal.

794
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: Course right, So.

795
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 4: I'm a criminal because I have a tattoo. And I'm

796
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 4: also the dumb one that got it off the wall

797
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 4: because I was just trying to be rebellious and I

798
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 4: did that too, looks good?

799
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: I didn't.

800
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just like and just the other day,

801
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: Jesse was with us and she was like, she was like,

802
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: I still don't understand how you did that. I was like,

803
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: you were with me. Why didn't you tell me that

804
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 4: you didn't do that with me?

805
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 3: Why didn't you stop me?

806
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 4: She's like I was afraid of you, and she's like,

807
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: you decided something. I wasn't ever going to go against you.

808
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, that's when I needed you,

809
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 4: like you needed to step up and be my sister

810
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 4: and tell me I'm an idiot. She's like, you never listened.

811
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: I was like true, valid, yeah, valid, valid.

812
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 4: Point yeah.

813
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: Fair.

814
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: The show ran from nineteen ninety six to two thousand

815
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 3: and seven, taking up over a decade of your life.

816
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you truly grew up on this show.

817
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 4: Truly.

818
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: Did you ever feel burnout? Did you ever think I

819
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: don't want to do this anymore? How did you avoid that?

820
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 4: If not, no, I didn't. I think it's because I

821
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: had wanted that for so long, and I was so

822
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: just eternally grateful. So I had gratitude every day that

823
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 4: I had a job and I got to work with

824
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 4: amazing people. And much of our crew was from day one,

825
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 4: so we started and ended with a lot of crew members,

826
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 4: or if we didn't end with that specific crew member,

827
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 4: we ended with their children and their kids that had

828
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 4: come in and joined them on our crew. So I

829
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 4: never did have burnout. I never And again I'm a loyalist,

830
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: to the loyalist of a degree like I when I

831
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 4: say I'm right or die, I am there till the end,

832
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 4: till that last wave is gone, and so I always

833
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: knew that, like I would be on every episode and

834
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: I would be there to the end, and I loved it.

835
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 4: And a lot of people would say, like that was

836
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 4: career suicide. You're supposed to go off, you're supposed to

837
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 4: go in the height and like go take other opportunities,

838
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 4: But to who I am was like I knew that

839
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: this was the first person who really gave me like

840
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 4: my biggest shot, and I wanted to be there to

841
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: say thank you and write it to the very end

842
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 4: as because if it wasn't for Brenda, then I wouldn't

843
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: have the life I have, and if it wasn't for

844
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: the fans watching the show, like I owed it to

845
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 4: them to see where Lucy it went, and everyone does

846
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: their own thing and that's completely fine, but for me,

847
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 4: I needed to be there from the beginning to and

848
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 4: actually even after the show ended, Brenda went on to

849
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 4: do The Secret Life of the American Teenager with majority

850
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 4: of our crew, and I went over to that show

851
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: and did quite a few episodes with them, which was fun.

852
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: And originally when she brought me over, she's like, you're

853
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: gonna be the high school counselor. I'm like, okay, cool,

854
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: and she's like, and I need you to talk to

855
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 4: the kids. I'm like in the show, and she's like, no,

856
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 4: outside the show. I need you to talk to them.

857
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: I need you to explain to them how this works.

858
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 4: And I need you to explain to them how we're

859
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 4: gonna how we're expected to behave and how to be

860
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 4: smart and how to make not not make them choices

861
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: and don't get into trouble. And I was like, whoa wait,

862
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 4: am I a counselor on the show or am my

863
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 4: counselor real life? She's like both.

864
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's actually really sweet.

865
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: She's like I just want you to like guide them

866
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 4: and tell them like don't go spend all your money,

867
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 4: like yeah, be very smart, think like in long term,

868
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: like you can't guarantee that this is gonna be forever,

869
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 4: like you need to. And I was like, okay, got it.

870
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: I will come on as big sister and start having coffee, right.

871
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: That's so much responsibility. She obviously loves you and trusts you,

872
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: and a compliment it is.

873
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 4: And I've I've always had a really great relationship with Brenda,

874
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: and I still to this day chat with her and

875
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 4: check in on her and so yeah, and like you know,

876
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: it's it's it's weird because I also don't feel like

877
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: I'm forty four. I don't feel like I'm grown up yet.

878
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 4: Don't you guys feel that. I'm like, I'm still not still.

879
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 4: I look at my kids and I'm like, I shouldn't

880
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: be doing this.

881
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm I shouldn't be listening to me.

882
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 4: I don't think I am certified or.

883
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: So. Having spent so much of your career basically with

884
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: the same crew, the same cast, like, what has been

885
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: like when you go on to work on another set,

886
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: what has been like the biggest Like, Wow, I can't

887
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: believe they don't do it the way we did it

888
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: on Seventh Heaven Likes, is there something you can point

889
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: to that's like, is it just the hours but it

890
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,479
Speaker 1: takes so long?

891
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 4: No, it's not necessary the hours. Sometimes it's more just

892
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: what I've always been shocked about is like I also

893
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 4: am the one that like gets in there and does things,

894
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: so like if I see something as like something somebody

895
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 4: needs help, like I will just do it. Like I don't.

896
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: I can't. I'm not very good at like sitting in

897
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 4: my chair and just like waiting right, So I think

898
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 4: I actually don't look at sets like that they're doing

899
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: anything wrong. But what I would say is what I've

900
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 4: learned is how to be more efficient. So I'm always

901
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 4: trying to help being like, here's how we can save time,

902
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 4: here's how we can do other setups, here's how we

903
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 4: can do this, or ooh, how about you try it

904
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: this way and maybe you might have more success. So

905
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 4: I think what I find is like I have an

906
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 4: inability to sit still and to stay in my lane

907
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: because like my husband says, he goes, you don't have

908
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 4: a line, it's a whole freaking highway, because I just can't.

909
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 4: But I think it's also I mean, it's you guys. Now,

910
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: it's we've experienced so much. We've we've been schooled by

911
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 4: the best school that you can go to, which is working.

912
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 4: And so oftentimes you go on some of these sets

913
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 4: and if you're not on a huge, multimillion dollar film

914
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 4: and you're on like a little lower budget film, like

915
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: they're not as experienced. They don't have they haven't been schooled,

916
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 4: they haven't learned, and they haven't had the teachers that

917
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 4: we've had. So now it's interesting being the teacher and

918
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: coming in and talking to and helping. I actually just

919
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 4: recently we moved to Colorado and I actually even had

920
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 4: conversation with CEU and I'm like, hey, you have a

921
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: film school. Can I come do something? And I was like,

922
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: They're like, what do you want to do. I'm like,

923
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: I don't know. What do you need? I can I

924
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 4: can help. I don't know. I'm like, I can't tell

925
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: you what I know, but I can tell you that

926
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 4: I know a lot. So to start asking me questions

927
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 4: and I am a wealth of knowledge.

928
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that's so great.

929
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 4: It's just fun. I think it's fun.

930
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

931
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I love what we do so much,

932
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 4: and it's so much ingrained in my DNA that like,

933
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 4: I can't just not be an actor. I can't not

934
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 4: be a part of this business. I don't know how not.

935
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: I don't know how to be anything else.

936
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, we feel you.

937
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

938
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: Right, as you mentioned, you're now rewatching Seventh Heaven with

939
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: two of your co stars, David Gallagher and Mackenzie Rossmith

940
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: for the podcast Catching Up with the Camdens. We know

941
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: a little bit about the feeling of being forced to

942
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: watch yourself as a child, Yes, acting. What has it

943
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: been like for you?

944
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 4: You know, it's quite refreshing. I mean it's like watching

945
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 4: old home videos, yes, is what you know. We haven't

946
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 4: quite we're still in season one. We're very slow because

947
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: we were very hesitant and David we were arguing for

948
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 4: a long time because we're the we were discussing the rewatch,

949
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: whether it's a rewatch more like a recap, more like

950
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 4: a rehash okay, because there was just a lot of

951
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: arguments because we weren't actually watching it while we were

952
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 4: on the podcast. We watch it before and then we

953
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: would talk about it and he's very into like what

954
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: that is supposed to be. But anyway, we've had a

955
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 4: lot of fun and it's been it's a lot of

956
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: sweet memories, to be honest, and it's also a lot

957
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: our show had a lot of iconic older actors. We

958
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: had Barbara Rush, we had Peter Graves, we had a

959
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 4: lot of people who are no longer with us, so

960
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 4: there was also it's been very touching just to like

961
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 4: remember the opportunities we had and the lessons we learned

962
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 4: from these people and rewatching the episodes. So it's been

963
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 4: you know, it's very nostalgic it's very I think as

964
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 4: much as the fans are loving it and enjoying it,

965
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 4: has been really therapeutic for us as well because we

966
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 4: did watch the first season, but there's a point in

967
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: time where like all of us stopped watching the show.

968
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 4: So we're gonna get to some episodes where we've.

969
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 3: Usually really seen it.

970
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, like you said, like some of our

971
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 4: storylines didn't overlap, and so there's sometimes we're like you

972
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: did what, Like even like you're saying that episode about Simon,

973
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, he did what? Like what I need to

974
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: have a talk with David, Like what I don't remember that?

975
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 4: But again, so it'll be fun to it's fun exploring

976
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: and it's very sweet, and it's it's nice to just

977
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 4: have these memories and with these amazing people who are

978
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: family because I'm an only child, so I adopted a

979
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 4: very large family.

980
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys. Also, Seventh Heaven has quite a few

981
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 3: continuity issues, the same way Boy Meets World does.

982
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 4: Oh I'm sure.

983
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Boy Meets World is famous for just changing things.

984
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 3: They have siblings. Now those siblings are no longer there

985
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 3: the you know where where we met we were four

986
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 3: were we twelve.

987
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: Different actor playing the little sister.

988
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 3: Three Tapanga, you know, all kinds of stuff. So I

989
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 3: know that'll be fun for you guys to point out

990
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: as you go along as well.

991
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I mean, and we were all like,

992
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 4: we all prided ourselves on continuity too.

993
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: But it is funny.

994
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 4: There's times whe're like, it's behind the ear, it's in

995
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 4: front of the ear, it's behind the.

996
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 3: Ear, and that stuff. That stuff's nothing we're talking to.

997
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 3: We're talking about, you know, whole new people coming in

998
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 3: playing a character, and you're just supposed to buy that.

999
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 3: It's like the same actor.

1000
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's amazing.

1001
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, the actual little continuity stuff, but that.

1002
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 4: Drives me nuts. It's the little things. I'm like, oh, like,

1003
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 4: that's what makes me nuts, Like just the tiny little things.

1004
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: The tiny little things. I mean, you guys, having done

1005
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty two episodes, this is quite a

1006
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 3: rewatch commitment. Do you think you're gonna make it? Or

1007
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 3: you gonna do? I know you will because you're right,

1008
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: or die well.

1009
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 4: I will, I will write or die I will be there.

1010
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 4: I will be a granny and on my deathbed watching

1011
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 4: episodes of Seventh Heaven. No, I mean we're gonna try.

1012
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: But it's fun because we've also had a lot of

1013
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 4: like guests come on, so we'll do a lot of

1014
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 4: like really fun episodes. We just had the girls who

1015
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 4: played My Baby on the show, and they are now

1016
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 4: in college. So it was quite upsetting and disturbing and

1017
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: very difficult for me being that they were on the

1018
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 4: show when they were literally like a few months old

1019
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: and now they are grown women in college.

1020
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

1021
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 4: And that was a trip.

1022
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: That's pretty crazy.

1023
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 4: It is pretty great. And also they went on to

1024
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: have a completely normal life and never did film again,

1025
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 4: and so there, yeah, and just to see what that

1026
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: was like, because that was never that's not what any

1027
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 4: of us experienced because we all have kind of stayed

1028
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 4: in the business.

1029
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 3: Do you have an un ironic favorite episode?

1030
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't again my episode? I like don't remember episodes?

1031
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 4: Is that horrible?

1032
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: No, I know, I'm the same way.

1033
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 4: I really don't remember, but like the fans know everything.

1034
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 4: I know on this episode you did this, and I'm like,

1035
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: I did.

1036
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: Do you remember seasons? More like, do you know the

1037
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: difference between season three and season eight?

1038
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: Can you identify that?

1039
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 4: Not? Really? Wow? No, I mean I think it's but

1040
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 4: I also feel like I have a trouble with my

1041
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 4: memory in the sense that because and I don't know

1042
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 4: if this is forever, but for me, I always my

1043
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: world was like a whiteboard because I would have to

1044
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: memorize everything on the white board for our lines, and

1045
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 4: then as soon as I didn't need it anymore, it

1046
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: was a raised And so I feel like I have

1047
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 4: trained myself to like not retain because I always had

1048
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 4: to be able to like put people and do it

1049
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 4: so fast like I didn't. So it's funny, like even

1050
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 4: with even in real life, like my husband's like, oh

1051
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 4: remember this, and I'm like, I have to find a

1052
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: picture to like really jog my memory, and then all

1053
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: of a sudden, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, now I

1054
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 4: can remember, but like if you just asked me on

1055
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 4: the spot, like it's terrible, But it's because I literally

1056
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 4: have that whiteboard memory because but I could do it

1057
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 4: for tests. So it was great for school because I

1058
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 4: could literally look at the I could in my mind

1059
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 4: look at it, read it, see it on the page.

1060
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 4: But as soon as the test was gone, I had

1061
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: no idea what I just did. And that's what I

1062
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 4: that's what I've always been like since I was a

1063
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 4: little girl, because I always had to like memorize, and

1064
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: then you can't hold onto that stuff because if you did, like,

1065
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 4: how many scripts would we have in our heads out

1066
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 4: of our minds? So, yeah, I'm terrible.

1067
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: So you started uh Seventh Heaven when you were fifteen?

1068
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: Yes, but when did you actually start acting?

1069
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 4: I started acting when I was four. I was discovered

1070
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 4: in a mall throwing a temper Sherman Oaks Gallery, Oaks Galeria. Yes,

1071
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,720
Speaker 4: I was throwing a temper tantrum because I was hungry

1072
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 4: and I was with my aunt. She wasn't feeding me,

1073
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 4: and I just you know, I went for it and

1074
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 4: was like, all right, you have to feed me. And

1075
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 4: Corey Feldman's mom came up and said, you've got a spark,

1076
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: you got something. You should be in the business. And

1077
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 4: she became my manager for eight short period of time.

1078
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 3: And I am keeping this story secret from my son

1079
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: and she yeah, I know, right, Yeah, I.

1080
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: Told my kids it does not work. That was a

1081
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 4: once in a lifetime situation. And I was really cute

1082
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 4: and you're not that cute. Yeah, And so I got

1083
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 4: in the business and then within the first month I

1084
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 4: booked my first national commercial, and I loved it. It

1085
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 4: was I did an AT and T commercial, and shortly

1086
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 4: after that, I did Oscar Meyer and I loved being

1087
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 4: on sets. I just thought it was so fun, like,

1088
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 4: and I think I'm an only child, so like being

1089
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: on a set with a bunch of adults and like

1090
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 4: being like the center of attention, like, yes, please, that's great,

1091
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 4: let's do it. So that kind of started it. And

1092
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 4: then you know, did a lot of things here and there,

1093
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 4: and I was on Phenom so that was Multiicam, which

1094
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 4: was fun with Ashley Johnson, and did like a bunch

1095
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,479
Speaker 4: of little shows. But and I was always raised because

1096
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 4: I think, you guys know, like the no's come far

1097
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: more than the yeses. Oh, the yeses are rare. And

1098
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 4: I remember just always knowing I truly enjoyed the auditioning process.

1099
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 4: I loved seeing people at the auditions. I loved seeing

1100
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: my friends. I loved seeing my friends get the job

1101
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 4: because I always had the mentality of when it's my turn,

1102
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: it will be mine, and if it's not mine, it's

1103
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 4: because it's not my turn yet. So when it finally

1104
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 4: became my turn, I remember also being like, Okay, I

1105
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 4: got the chance. Now I'm never gonna let it go, right,

1106
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 4: And so it was always a good experience. I never

1107
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 4: had the heartbreak because I truly was happy for everybody

1108
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 4: who got the jobs, Like I was happy for Scarlett Johansson.

1109
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 4: Excuse me, I was happy for Natalie Portman. I was

1110
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 4: happy for all these people that I was always in

1111
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 4: the room being And then when they blew up, I

1112
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 4: was like, yay, wait, now it's mine. Now it's my

1113
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 4: turn's coming right right.

1114
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: So well, pretty early on, you book a movie called

1115
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: Children of the Bride, a TV movie starring Room mc clanahan,

1116
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: and that basically became a franchise. What was working with

1117
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 3: Rue Like, she.

1118
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 4: Was amazing, She was so funny and so charming, and

1119
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 4: the whole experience was like summer camp. It was just

1120
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 4: su and all the adults were wonderful and fun and

1121
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: the crew was incredible. I mean, I I've never had

1122
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 4: like a bad experience. I've been very blessed and very

1123
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 4: lucky to be around some incredible people and to also

1124
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 4: learn from the best and learn how to behave on

1125
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 4: set and learn, you know, And I just remember just

1126
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 4: being like the kid that was always like watching being

1127
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 4: like watching behaviors, watching what people did, how people showed up,

1128
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: how how you were expected to be, and I had

1129
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 4: really good role models and how to do So do.

1130
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,280
Speaker 3: You remember your seventh Heaven audition?

1131
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: You know what? Funny enough I do. I went and

1132
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: and I saw the assistant and they actually didn't like me,

1133
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 4: and and I didn't get a call back. And that

1134
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: was the first and only time that I called my

1135
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 4: manager and I said, you fight to get me back

1136
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 4: in there. And I said, this role I need another shot,

1137
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 4: like they need to the like Pamsha needs to see me,

1138
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 4: Like I need to get back in there. I have

1139
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: never ever done that because I've always been like, oh

1140
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 4: all right, it wasn't for me. Yeah, But this one

1141
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 4: was the one where I'm like, you have to fight

1142
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 4: to get me back in there. And luckily.

1143
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: Because you were good for the part, or because you

1144
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: liked the material.

1145
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 4: Because I knew in my core that I was Lucy.

1146
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 4: I knew that she was me, and so I was

1147
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: like no, no, no, no, no, no no no, I this

1148
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 4: is this one's mine, like I can, I can do it.

1149
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 4: And I even remember being strangely confident, like when we

1150
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 4: went to network and excited but also with this calm.

1151
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: I felt like most of the time, it's always like

1152
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: you wanted it and you always like needed it and like.

1153
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: You kind of like there's a desperation.

1154
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: There's a desperation. This one wasn't like that. It was

1155
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 4: like no, no, no, this is right right, this is

1156
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 4: And so there was a calm confidence, which was very

1157
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 4: not my style because I'm always like like worried, and

1158
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 4: this one I was like no, no, no, no, this

1159
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 4: one's I can feel it. And even in it was funny.

1160
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: At Network, there was obviously other kids there, but I

1161
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 4: remember Jesse and I connected. We even have pictures that

1162
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 4: we signed for each other being like we'll see you soon,

1163
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 4: like we like. And with David Well, I rememberer being

1164
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: a fan of David because I was like, David's like

1165
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 4: a big movie star because he had just come off

1166
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 4: a phenomenon with John Travolta and he was in look

1167
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 4: who's talking Like I was like, that kid is like

1168
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 4: he's the real deal.

1169
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 3: That that guy's great, he's great, and he's so cute.

1170
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 4: So but it was funny, though I think we all

1171
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: we all kind of forgot who else was there at

1172
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 4: Network except for the people who for the people who ended. Yeah,

1173
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 4: we were the ones who truly did connect even in

1174
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 4: that stage, which is strange.

1175
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 3: There's one other project I have to ask you about.

1176
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 3: It's a movie you start in back in twenty fourteen,

1177
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 3: The Dog who Saved Easter. Yes, I must know how

1178
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 3: he saved Easter.

1179
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 4: That's a good question. I don't actually remember, you know.

1180
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 4: It's funny. It's because I just had a baby and

1181
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: I was so shocked I got a job. I was

1182
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 4: just like, here, how did the dog save Easter?

1183
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 3: That's a good questions.

1184
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 4: It's gone because it's like I told you guys, I

1185
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 4: have the worst memory. Like it's awful.

1186
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: It's okay, I'll google it. I'll go Mario Lopez's voice

1187
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 3: save Easter.

1188
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 4: And it's with Matthew Lawrence was with me really yeah too? Yeah,

1189
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 4: yeah he was.

1190
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 2: You got to do a rewatch.

1191
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 3: We gotta watch it.

1192
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh my god.

1193
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah he was a vet. He was the vet.

1194
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 3: Must have been Matt's favorite job ever.

1195
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, we have to watch this movie now.

1196
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 3: We really do so bad, don't I don't know. I

1197
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: don't know.

1198
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 4: And it was like I literally I I just had

1199
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: a baby and I was just so shocked. I got

1200
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 4: It's one of those moments like you know, you're like,

1201
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 4: we're really okay, Yeah, sure, I'm there, I'll be there.

1202
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 4: I need I need insurance. Let's let's go. Let's know.

1203
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 3: You have three kids, yes, how old are they? And

1204
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 3: would you ever let them get into acting?

1205
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: I have three that are twelve, ten and turning five,

1206
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 4: and funny enough, I would if they really wanted it.

1207
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: But I'm not going to be pulling any strings for them,

1208
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 4: like I think. I think it's important for them to

1209
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 4: learn the hard knocks way to go about it. But

1210
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 4: what's interesting is my daughter, who I've always thought was

1211
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 4: really shy, once we moved here to Colorado, she actually

1212
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 4: ended up doing like a play and she's like, will

1213
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 4: you help me? And I helped her run lines like

1214
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 4: one time, and then I was like, all right, you

1215
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 4: gotta figure it out yourself, like tell you girl. And

1216
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 4: when I went to see the play, I was in

1217
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,479
Speaker 4: shock because like she's she's very I thought she's there's

1218
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 4: no way that this is gonna be her thing. And

1219
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 4: then she went up there and I'm like, oh.

1220
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh she's good.

1221
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 4: Oh no, this is yeah, you're this is now very

1222
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 4: interesting to me because now I don't know what to

1223
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 4: do because you have stage presence, you have timing, you

1224
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 4: because and also I'm the parent that's like, I'm not

1225
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 4: gonna laugh at your joke. If it's not funny, I

1226
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 4: will tell you it's not funny. Go rework it. Your

1227
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 4: timing's off, your delivery was terrible, and like your body

1228
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 4: language is weird, Like, no, that's not funny. So I'm

1229
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,479
Speaker 4: like definitely like fat parent, Like so I'm very real

1230
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 4: with them, Like I think everyone was like, well you

1231
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: must have known she's like this little actress. I'm like no,

1232
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 4: and I'm quite disturbed because I don't know what to

1233
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 4: do with this now. Yeah, like she's my athlete. She's

1234
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 4: she she plays soccer, like she's my athlete. Like you're

1235
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 4: now possibly an actor too, Like wow, okay, this is

1236
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 4: gonna be interesting. But luckily, now that we're in call Dolorado,

1237
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 4: it's not as yeah as accessible. Yeah yeah, so she

1238
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 4: can be a kid for a while. I'd like them

1239
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 4: to be kids for a little bit.

1240
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: Yes, so smart and no YouTube.

1241
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:14,439
Speaker 2: Well she might become a theater kid.

1242
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 4: Yeah she might. Yeah, she she really enjoyed it, which

1243
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 4: I was, and I also it's so good for their confidence,

1244
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 4: Like it's so great for her to be able to

1245
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 4: express herself. And so I love that for her, and

1246
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 4: I love my son's the comedian, so I'm sure. And

1247
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 4: then the five year old's going to rule the world.

1248
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 4: So because she's she's she's feral. She's already making her

1249
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 4: own pancakes. Like she can do everything.

1250
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 2: Oh I love it.

1251
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, she's yeah, third kid man. There they're like

1252
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 4: next level, Like there, you don't. They can save the world,

1253
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 4: they can do everything. She would probably succeed on Special

1254
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 4: Forces for sure. I got it. You know, weird enough

1255
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 4: I would go back, so yeah, I would.

1256
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I think baby Special Forces is

1257
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 3: a good pitch. I think a thing.

1258
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I think most of them thought all

1259
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 4: of us were acting like babies, so maybe.

1260
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 3: I mean, but honestly, like that's you kind of need

1261
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: toddler energy in order to like dive backwards into a

1262
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 3: pitch black ocean from a helicopter. You know.

1263
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that was not good. I messed up, Like

1264
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 4: I think I knocked out like five ribs on that one.

1265
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 3: It looks painful.

1266
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 4: I was not. That was definitely not an enjoyable experience,

1267
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 4: but also I was still I was told that they

1268
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 4: were gonna give us very clear instructions and that we

1269
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 4: would always understand the task. That is not the case. No,

1270
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 4: It's like it's like, hey, you stand here, I got

1271
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 4: the rope, I'm gonna like, you're gonna lean back, and

1272
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: then you just go head first in the ocean. I'm like,

1273
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 4: wha the mechanics of this hold on, let me talk,

1274
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 4: And the next thing I know, he dropped me, and I'm.

1275
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: Like okay, yeah.

1276
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, yeah, definitely failed that mission. That's okay, I did it.

1277
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: You did it, and I'm so proud of you did it.

1278
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: Thank you. One last question I have for you, because

1279
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: it's another little crossover that we have. I was thinking

1280
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: about the incredible late nineties early aughts while I was

1281
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: researching you for this interview and remembered that we were

1282
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 3: both very close to the guys of n SYNC.

1283
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 4: Yes, Lance, Yes, Lance is my guy.

1284
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: Yes, some of my favorite stories and memories are from

1285
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: times spent with them when they were just at the

1286
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 3: height of their careers. Do you have any favorite fun

1287
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: stories of being close with the biggest band in the

1288
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 3: world at the time.

1289
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh, my God challenge for the children. All of

1290
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 4: the starity events that they did, yes or the best, Like,

1291
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,919
Speaker 4: I think one of my most favorite memories was I'm

1292
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 4: pretty sure we were all under age, okay, tea tender age.

1293
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 4: We were all under age in Vegas and we were

1294
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 4: running around doing a scavenger hunt. And when I say

1295
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 4: like scavenger hunt, I mean all over the Vegas Strip

1296
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Speaker 4: and it was and also like I'm we're like I

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01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 4: think I was on Joey's team and so we're running

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Speaker 4: through Vegas on the strip with and sync just like

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01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 4: running around like hooligans.

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Speaker 3: Running into hotels.

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Speaker 4: Yes, remember, and it was just nuts. But I just

1302
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 4: remember being like, what kind of fun, weird experience is

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01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 4: this that we'll never get to do again? Except for

1304
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 4: them we did in Miami a few years later. It

1305
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 4: was also and at that point it was like Cameron

1306
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 4: Diaz was there, Yeah, Gabrielle Union was the I mean,

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01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 4: you have all these superstars that are all and we're

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01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 4: all just running around unleashed around town like and it

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 4: was so fun because it was again at a time

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01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 4: where like the cell phone pictures were like on a

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01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 4: flip phone, so like nothing was happening so we were

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01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 4: able to have this kind of freedom to be wild

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01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 4: and crazy and do these fun things. But those friendships

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01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 4: were just so genuine and and too to know the guys.

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Speaker 4: I also remember being really good friends with all the bodyguards.

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Speaker 4: I loved the.

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Speaker 3: Bodyguard me to the best. It's so crazy to think

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 3: about how massive celebrities today could never do those things

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01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 3: that we were able to do back then. Never and

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Speaker 3: there was still security. You mentioned the bodyguards. The bodyguards

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Speaker 3: were there, of course in case something did happen, like

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Speaker 3: there was, it was safe, but you could never do

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01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 3: it now they're they're they're It was just never. It

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01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 3: was just couldn't happen.

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Speaker 4: No, And I think it's also just it was the

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01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 4: freedom to kind of still be young and wild and

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Speaker 4: free with people who were obviously recognizable, but it was

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Speaker 4: just it was so fun. I mean, I'm still obviously

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01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 4: very good friends with you know, well all of them.

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01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 4: And then it's very funny that like one of them

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01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 4: ended up marrying my best friends. And I was like,

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01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 4: and who, I give Jesse so much too, because sorry,

1333
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 4: I don't get me to cuss. I have Jesse so

1334
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 4: much crap because she used to make fun of me.

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01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 4: She's just like, you do know the mzinc boys again,

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01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, dude, they're fun, like we have

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01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 4: fun and she used to think I was like, so

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01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 4: silly and lame. And I'm like, now you're married to one,

1339
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 4: yeah exactly, now I have a Colleen lame and I

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01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 4: was like cute, and I'm like, I remember when when

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01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 4: they first started dating. Miss Lynd's like, okay, Bev tell

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 4: me about her. I'm like, if he hurts her, I'll

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01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 4: kill him. And she's like, okay, so you love her.

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01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 4: I'm like, I do.

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: I do.

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01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 3: I love her very much as my sister.

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01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 4: So but it is fun, like but yeah, those were

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01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,799
Speaker 4: the good times when we could those were the good times.

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01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 3: They really were. Well, as we mentioned, you guys are

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01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 3: doing your rewatch podcast catching Up with the Camdens or

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01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to call it a rewatch in case

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01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:53,839
Speaker 3: David doesn't want to call rehash.

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 4: Yeah it's rehash.

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 3: It's a rehash. Okay, you're rehashing with Catching Up with

1355
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 3: the Camdens. Where else can people find you see you?

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01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 3: What else are you working on other than wanting to

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01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 3: go back to Special Forces, which I don't know. He

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,440
Speaker 3: seems like you're a glutton for punishment.

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 4: At this time. I mean, I do I think again,

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01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 4: you know, the therapy session that we all need to

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01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 4: explore being on camera. Yeah, I just you know, right now,

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01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 4: I'm enjoying life being a mommy and kind of uh

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01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 4: finally moved out of l A after being born and

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01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 4: raised for the very first time. So h but it's

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01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 4: fun just popping in, you know, doing the things when

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01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 4: they come up, when we're called, right, that's an actor's life.

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Speaker 3: I still think you should pitch baby special Forces. I

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01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 3: think it's a good idea. We call my six year

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01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 3: old will do it? Your five year old will do it?

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 4: It would be it would be you know what I

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01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 4: do have to say though to this, I think it's

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 4: so it would be so important for most people to

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01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 4: understand what our military goes through and the degree and

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01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 4: and and understand because I will also say I was

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01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 4: I did that for four days. And the intensity, I

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01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 4: would say, is like going to university of yourself, like

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01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 4: figuring out your stuff. And it is like going from

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01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 4: being in kindergarten with the knowledge that you have and

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01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 4: then literally coming out with a degree in the shortest

1380
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 4: amount of time that it actually took me two years

1381
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 4: to process what I learned in those four days. Wow. Wow,

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01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 4: So I do think there's there's something to be said

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01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 4: for what they're doing. But also that being said, if

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01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,879
Speaker 4: you allow yourself to really dive deep, some people wouldn't.

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01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 4: Some people were like, na, nah, I'm good.

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01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 4: I literally took it as a as a I milked

1388
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,679
Speaker 4: every opportunity to learn about myself in that situation, which

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01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 4: was really cool. And I'm excited for the next season.

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 4: I have no idea who it is and what they're doing,

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01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 4: but I can't wait to watch.

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01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 3: I can't either. It's going to be great. Beverly, thank

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01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 3: you so much for being here with us and spending

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01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: your time. You're always such a ray of light and

1395
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 3: your your perspective is so great and we're just so

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01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 3: happy to have you here. So thank you for joining us.

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01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you guys so much for having me. It's

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 4: a it's always a joy, so anytime I appreciate it.

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01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 3: We'll probably see you at the next nineties Con.

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 4: I know, wouldn't that'd be fun? Connecticut here we come, Yes.

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01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 3: Exactly, and maybe and maybe we'll do a rewatch of

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01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: the Dog who Saved Easter.

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01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I think we should.

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01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 4: Oh my god, there's so many fun things that we

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01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 4: can all do of watching each other.

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01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we could.

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01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 4: We could have a blast of watching.

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01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,639
Speaker 3: We've done it quite a bit on our podcast. We've

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01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 3: rewatched Writers, Summertime Switch.

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01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 4: That's fun. I want to do. I also want to

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01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 4: do some of the horror stuff. So I was like,

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01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 4: I want I want them to watch Saw too. Yes,

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01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 4: be like watch Me Die? Yes.

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01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 4: Those are always fun too.

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01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 3: Always fun. It's a nice they're nice palate cleansers. Yes

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01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 3: for you know, for when you're in when you're two

1418
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 3: and forty two episodes deep of Seventh Heaven, squatched some

1419
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 3: Saw Too.

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01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 4: Let's yeah, let's just throw something in.

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01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 3: Thank you, Beverly.

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 4: It's always good to do you enjoy your day.

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01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 3: She's always been such a positive like I just imagine

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01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 3: her at four being on a set, and I'm like,

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 3: I can I think even at four she was probably

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01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 3: very much like just this little adult.

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01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I love the way that she's you know,

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01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: when we started talking about this whole Special Forces thing,

1429
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: it was sort of.

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01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: Like, can you imagine me and her?

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: You know, you're like, yeah, it doesn't really fit her,

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01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: but then throughout the rest of the interview she's like,

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01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: tell me what to do and I'll do it.

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01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 2: That's the kind of actor I am. And then she's like,

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01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 2: I'm a loyalist. I will stay with you. I am right,

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01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you you're actually the perfect soldier.

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01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 3: Like exactly, You're just a scribe committed yes.

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01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: Like and she pushes herself and then she reflects, I'm like,

1439
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: this is no, you're a soldier.

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01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, super funny.

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01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 3: I know, really great. And it's funny because to her

1442
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 3: it's just because she was never an athlete, but she

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01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 3: you know, but special Forces is true. Of course, you're

1444
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 3: also having to do physical things that are exhausting, but

1445
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: it's way more of a mental of a mental game.

1446
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 3: How committed are you? How willing to push yourself are you?

1447
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 3: And in that sense, she's the perfect person.

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01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: For it, right right, Yeah, I guess like I would. Yeah,

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01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 1: the physical thing would just kill me. I just you know, exercise, man,

1450
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: make me run more than like twenty minutes and I'm like.

1451
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 3: I'm out and they're running with like lots of gear

1452
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: on extra forty pounds.

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 1: But the running, the mental part of like you know,

1454
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: like surviving and like doing scary things. I think I

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01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 1: would actually love that. I love backpacking. I love the

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01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 1: idea of like I mean, that's like why I love

1457
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: Survivors because I'm like, how would I be able to

1458
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: make fire and like get through the night.

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01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 3: I love that stuff, But I die instantly. I'd never

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01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 3: be able to make fire. I'd be like, what do

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01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 3: we do here? Well, well, I wouldn't leave. I just

1462
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,320
Speaker 3: have to tough it. I'd be like I can't eat

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01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 3: and I can't have warmth, right, but I have to

1464
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:09,919
Speaker 3: stick it out because I have no hands on skills

1465
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 3: like I have no I can't do a thing for myself.

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01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 1: There was a moment like when we started this podcast

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01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: where you were like, I want to go.

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01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: Camp I do?

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01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 3: I still do want to go camping? Do it? Do

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 3: I still need you to teach me? I? Actually I

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01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 3: do think that'd be the perfect thing, is to actually

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01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 3: go camping with at least one other family that really

1473
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 3: knows what they're doing. Because I am a very visual

1474
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 3: learner and I will like take it and be like

1475
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 3: a sponge. I'm gonna go I'm gonna watch you, I'm

1476
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 3: gonna help, and then I'm going to try to do

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01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 3: it on my own the next time. Yeah, so I

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 3: do need to do that. Well. Thank you all for

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01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 3: joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always,

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