1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:31,279 Speaker 1: Hats from the Past. 2 00:00:31,359 --> 00:00:33,719 Speaker 2: Tune in is Matt Smith and Paul Perillo offer in 3 00:00:33,759 --> 00:00:36,439 Speaker 2: depth interviews with some of the greatest players and coaches 4 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:37,759 Speaker 2: in New England Patriots history. 5 00:00:37,839 --> 00:00:39,638 Speaker 3: Joined by the newest member of the Patriots Hall of Fame, 6 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 3: Mike Gravel. 7 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 8 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 9 00:00:45,278 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 10 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 11 00:00:50,519 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: but number one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. 12 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:56,078 Speaker 4: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 13 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:58,519 Speaker 2: Search for Pats in the past anywhere you get your podcast. 14 00:01:00,279 --> 00:01:02,479 Speaker 4: It was good to go out there and get the win. 15 00:01:02,639 --> 00:01:05,078 Speaker 4: And I thought the guys really went out there and 16 00:01:05,079 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 4: played well. You know, as a coach sometimes it's all 17 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,159 Speaker 4: about just giving those guys the opportunity, and they went 18 00:01:09,158 --> 00:01:12,518 Speaker 4: out there and seize that opportunity and controlled the game. 19 00:01:13,158 --> 00:01:16,239 Speaker 3: Compliment earlier this morning on this show from Boomer Asiasin, 20 00:01:16,279 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 3: who said, seemed like you guys put together the perfect 21 00:01:19,039 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: game plan. 22 00:01:19,598 --> 00:01:20,118 Speaker 1: For this one. 23 00:01:20,239 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 4: So yeah, so you know, shout out to the coordinators. 24 00:01:22,639 --> 00:01:24,678 Speaker 4: You know, the coordinators. You know they work hard, and 25 00:01:24,679 --> 00:01:27,159 Speaker 4: I would say the position coaches, the assistant coaches, they 26 00:01:27,158 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 4: all put a lot a lot of hours in it, 27 00:01:28,839 --> 00:01:31,438 Speaker 4: and it doesn't always culminate to a win. But as 28 00:01:31,438 --> 00:01:33,719 Speaker 4: I've always said, we try to get better each and 29 00:01:33,919 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 4: every week, and that's not only for the players but 30 00:01:36,239 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 4: also the coaches. 31 00:01:37,159 --> 00:01:39,359 Speaker 5: Gerrodd, one of the things that really stood out yesterday 32 00:01:39,359 --> 00:01:42,199 Speaker 5: obviously the ability to get to the quarterback and get sacks, 33 00:01:42,679 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 5: but the ability to not have any off script plays, 34 00:01:46,359 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 5: where Caleb Williams has done a good job of that 35 00:01:48,759 --> 00:01:52,039 Speaker 5: this season, but making sure there were none of those 36 00:01:52,479 --> 00:01:54,279 Speaker 5: that ultimately led to big plays. 37 00:01:54,599 --> 00:01:57,398 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, those offscript players are always difficult to handle. 38 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:00,719 Speaker 4: And having an athletic quarterback like Caleb who I do. 39 00:02:00,999 --> 00:02:02,519 Speaker 4: I said this after the game, I think he's going 40 00:02:02,599 --> 00:02:04,319 Speaker 4: to be a very special player in this league. But 41 00:02:04,359 --> 00:02:05,799 Speaker 4: to be able to contain him and keep him in 42 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:09,638 Speaker 4: the pocket was definitely a challenging you know, that was 43 00:02:09,679 --> 00:02:11,399 Speaker 4: one of the targets this week, and the guys hit it. 44 00:02:11,679 --> 00:02:11,999 Speaker 1: Gerd. 45 00:02:11,999 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 6: It did seem like Drake and Booty have become this 46 00:02:14,519 --> 00:02:18,399 Speaker 6: kind of tangum that's their connections really growing. So for you, 47 00:02:18,478 --> 00:02:21,599 Speaker 6: have you seen that during practice or how has that 48 00:02:21,679 --> 00:02:23,039 Speaker 6: grown and where do you see that going? 49 00:02:23,119 --> 00:02:25,238 Speaker 4: I would say with all the receivers, you know that 50 00:02:25,279 --> 00:02:28,879 Speaker 4: connection continues to grow. You have to remember it's only 51 00:02:28,918 --> 00:02:32,279 Speaker 4: been men says Drake really started, so you'll continue to 52 00:02:32,279 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 4: see that progress amongst all those guys. But Booty's done 53 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 4: a good job for us, and he's definitely been one 54 00:02:37,559 --> 00:02:40,839 Speaker 4: of those guys that has grown from you know, last 55 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,479 Speaker 4: year or this year, and it's exciting to see. 56 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:45,879 Speaker 7: Drake has obviously taken the more of a vocal leadership role. 57 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,038 Speaker 7: We heard about that after the game about addressing the team. 58 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:53,198 Speaker 7: It seems to me from AFAR that as Drake has 59 00:02:53,239 --> 00:02:55,478 Speaker 7: assumed the leadership role in the offense, there's been less 60 00:02:55,479 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 7: squawking by those on it. 61 00:02:57,758 --> 00:02:59,039 Speaker 4: He's addressed the team. 62 00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:01,159 Speaker 1: That's what they said on the broadcast yesterday. 63 00:03:01,559 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: They said this week he was frustrated or you know, 64 00:03:04,758 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 3: or didn't think there's were going the way it should 65 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: have gone practice wise, and asked if he could talk 66 00:03:09,719 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 3: to the offense. 67 00:03:10,679 --> 00:03:11,879 Speaker 1: Is that not accurate? 68 00:03:12,439 --> 00:03:13,399 Speaker 4: No, he said the team. 69 00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 7: I'm just trying to figure out, oh, to the offense, sorry, 70 00:03:15,839 --> 00:03:19,439 Speaker 7: to the offense itself. Has it is there a correlation 71 00:03:19,559 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 7: between Drake's leadership role and guys on the offense taking 72 00:03:23,679 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 7: ownership of their specific roles without talking about others. 73 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:28,999 Speaker 4: Yeah, they all have to be accountable and as you know, 74 00:03:29,038 --> 00:03:31,198 Speaker 4: that's part of his evolution, and he's doing a good job. 75 00:03:32,279 --> 00:03:35,319 Speaker 5: One of the things that we saw obviously, we saw 76 00:03:35,359 --> 00:03:36,959 Speaker 5: some preciures from your second level. 77 00:03:36,999 --> 00:03:39,359 Speaker 4: He lined back, is your cornerback safety? Is that type 78 00:03:39,399 --> 00:03:39,639 Speaker 4: of thing? 79 00:03:40,239 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 5: Was that something that you guys were going in with 80 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:45,279 Speaker 5: a game plan to kind of confuse Caleb Williams to 81 00:03:45,919 --> 00:03:48,319 Speaker 5: you know, have him see a lot of guys and 82 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:50,079 Speaker 5: then at times you were bringing those guys. Is that's 83 00:03:50,079 --> 00:03:52,719 Speaker 5: something that was part of your game plan headed into it. 84 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:56,159 Speaker 4: You know? And again he's a very athletic guy, so 85 00:03:56,359 --> 00:03:59,079 Speaker 4: our second and third level players are are faster guys. 86 00:03:59,199 --> 00:04:00,919 Speaker 4: And saying that, I would say our first level guys 87 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:03,519 Speaker 4: did a good job. Really collapse in the pocket. 88 00:04:03,879 --> 00:04:07,319 Speaker 3: Uh, speaking of Drake, you look at the interception, just 89 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 3: clearly didn't see Edwards there? 90 00:04:09,959 --> 00:04:12,399 Speaker 4: Did you use that napkin right there? It's hot in here? 91 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: You know, win you give him if you want to? 92 00:04:17,438 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 8: Just said, I sweat so easy, don't you work out? 93 00:04:21,239 --> 00:04:24,399 Speaker 4: Right before? I tried to until my body just stays hot. 94 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:28,118 Speaker 3: Yeah, so what's the question, interception, what what did you 95 00:04:28,119 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 3: see looking back film? He just did you didn't see line. 96 00:04:31,359 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 4: It was a bad play, It was a poor play. 97 00:04:32,719 --> 00:04:34,079 Speaker 4: You got to throw that ball away and keep us. 98 00:04:34,119 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 6: Going back to Curtis's question with the squawking, and obviously 99 00:04:37,479 --> 00:04:39,199 Speaker 6: there was a lot of guys that were talking in 100 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 6: front of the media and saying certain things about what 101 00:04:41,678 --> 00:04:42,199 Speaker 6: was going on. 102 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 4: Oh good, you got some Bobby Brown making. 103 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:46,079 Speaker 1: Let's get that. 104 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 5: I mean he's hadah, that's nothing like he used to 105 00:04:51,719 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 5: do to build. 106 00:04:52,159 --> 00:04:53,399 Speaker 1: Don't worry whatever. 107 00:04:56,399 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 6: But it does seem like it's quieted down. Guys aren't 108 00:04:58,759 --> 00:05:03,038 Speaker 6: really talking to media or saying, you know, disagreements that 109 00:05:03,078 --> 00:05:05,758 Speaker 6: are happening behind closed doors. Is that something that's come 110 00:05:05,799 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 6: from you down or is it just because you guys 111 00:05:08,159 --> 00:05:10,998 Speaker 6: have gotten a few wins that guys have been happier or. 112 00:05:10,958 --> 00:05:13,399 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say there were disagreements. I would say, like, 113 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 4: all these guys are competitors and want to win games, 114 00:05:15,678 --> 00:05:18,318 Speaker 4: and those are all symptoms of losing. When you start 115 00:05:18,359 --> 00:05:19,519 Speaker 4: to hear griping. 116 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:25,399 Speaker 3: Work, yeah both. Yeah, you said this week you needed 117 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:26,399 Speaker 3: to get the run game going. 118 00:05:26,479 --> 00:05:28,118 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it seemed like you did. 119 00:05:28,479 --> 00:05:28,639 Speaker 1: Oh. 120 00:05:28,719 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 4: Absolutely, we got the run game going. And I would 121 00:05:30,558 --> 00:05:32,238 Speaker 4: say defensively, we were able to control the line of 122 00:05:32,239 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: scrimmage and stop them from really running the ball. I 123 00:05:34,599 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: think whether they averaged four yard maybe under four yards 124 00:05:37,159 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 4: to carry. I thought it was good we handled the 125 00:05:39,759 --> 00:05:41,559 Speaker 4: down guys, and I was impressed by that. 126 00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:43,878 Speaker 7: I've done a lot of critique of the offense the 127 00:05:43,879 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 7: first half of the season. I thought yesterday, first and 128 00:05:46,599 --> 00:05:48,999 Speaker 7: second down were huge. You had ten of your fourteen 129 00:05:49,078 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 7: third downs were less than five yards or five yards 130 00:05:51,438 --> 00:05:53,519 Speaker 7: or less. What about the game plan from Ben Pelton? 131 00:05:53,519 --> 00:05:54,878 Speaker 7: How you guys were able to be more successful? 132 00:05:54,879 --> 00:05:56,878 Speaker 4: It was all about first down, And I challenged those 133 00:05:56,879 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 4: guys to what was really focused on first down? Because 134 00:05:59,479 --> 00:06:01,158 Speaker 4: when you look at the game prior, it was a 135 00:06:01,159 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 4: lot of second and twelve, second and eleven, second and fourteen, fifteen, 136 00:06:04,198 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 4: sixty all the way up to second and twenty. And 137 00:06:06,719 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 4: if we're able to stay ahead of the sticks, then 138 00:06:08,359 --> 00:06:10,079 Speaker 4: that gives us a better opportunity to get in those 139 00:06:10,119 --> 00:06:13,198 Speaker 4: third and three situations, where with our backs, they still 140 00:06:13,239 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 4: have to be able to take care of the run game. 141 00:06:14,799 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 6: We were talking about Ramondre Stevenson earlier this morning too. 142 00:06:17,318 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 6: He looked awesome yesterday and we were wondering, is it 143 00:06:19,799 --> 00:06:23,278 Speaker 6: like he's gotten healthier or is it just things have 144 00:06:23,318 --> 00:06:23,998 Speaker 6: been clicking. 145 00:06:23,799 --> 00:06:26,519 Speaker 4: For him, just as in the past when he hasn't 146 00:06:26,719 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 4: gotten going. I would say it starts up front with 147 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 4: the offensive line. I'm going to say the exact same 148 00:06:31,519 --> 00:06:33,638 Speaker 4: thing here where he plays well, and it starts up 149 00:06:33,639 --> 00:06:36,638 Speaker 4: front with the offensive line. One of the things that 150 00:06:36,719 --> 00:06:39,278 Speaker 4: you talked about are, like, you know, certain guys, you know, 151 00:06:39,318 --> 00:06:42,239 Speaker 4: whether it's griping the thing that I kind of take away. 152 00:06:42,318 --> 00:06:44,799 Speaker 4: Obviously I'm not in that locker room, but I look 153 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,118 Speaker 4: at this, especially you know, in the wide receiver room 154 00:06:48,198 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 4: or just in the past passing game. 155 00:06:51,318 --> 00:06:54,998 Speaker 5: Every guy has a legitimate opportunity because there's no clear 156 00:06:55,198 --> 00:06:59,439 Speaker 5: cut number one. So if you perform in practicing in 157 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:03,559 Speaker 5: games and you produce, I feel like you're gonna get opportunities. 158 00:07:04,039 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 5: Is that what you're The message to these guys is. 159 00:07:07,558 --> 00:07:09,839 Speaker 4: It's always been about competition. I said that all the 160 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:12,078 Speaker 4: way back in training camp. It's about competition and who 161 00:07:12,159 --> 00:07:14,278 Speaker 4: has that better week of practice and who has that 162 00:07:14,279 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 4: better week in the walkthroughs, in the meeting rooms, and 163 00:07:16,719 --> 00:07:17,319 Speaker 4: that's where it is. 164 00:07:17,799 --> 00:07:19,959 Speaker 3: Look like you wanted a roughing the passer call at 165 00:07:19,999 --> 00:07:20,999 Speaker 3: the end of the third. 166 00:07:21,639 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 4: I did, But when you look at it, I mean, 167 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:30,519 Speaker 4: it probably was the better call of picking up. Seriously, 168 00:07:30,599 --> 00:07:32,319 Speaker 4: like when you're in the when you're in the game, 169 00:07:33,078 --> 00:07:35,319 Speaker 4: you know, I mean, that's part of it, that's part 170 00:07:35,319 --> 00:07:36,879 Speaker 4: of you know. You always ask me, what do you 171 00:07:36,919 --> 00:07:39,159 Speaker 4: learned as a head coach? Well, sometimes yelling at the 172 00:07:39,199 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 4: referee works, and sometimes most of the time they're. 173 00:07:41,559 --> 00:07:44,799 Speaker 1: Right, what have you learned? 174 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:46,879 Speaker 3: I mean, we're halfway into the season. Like if you 175 00:07:46,958 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 3: looked at things that maybe you didn't expect that you 176 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:54,439 Speaker 3: were gonna that you would have learned by this point. 177 00:07:54,719 --> 00:07:57,319 Speaker 4: Every week it's its own unique week. You know. I 178 00:07:57,319 --> 00:07:59,719 Speaker 4: haven't had time, you know, because we haven't had a 179 00:07:59,759 --> 00:08:01,999 Speaker 4: bye week yet, and we still won't have a bye 180 00:08:01,999 --> 00:08:04,439 Speaker 4: week anytime soon. I haven't had the time to take 181 00:08:04,439 --> 00:08:07,719 Speaker 4: a breather and really reflect fully on what has happened 182 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:10,799 Speaker 4: up to this point in the season. But every week 183 00:08:10,879 --> 00:08:11,839 Speaker 4: is its own week? 184 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 3: Is it hard? 185 00:08:13,239 --> 00:08:13,398 Speaker 1: You know? 186 00:08:13,439 --> 00:08:15,799 Speaker 3: You always hear about time management and how many other 187 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:20,278 Speaker 3: things go into this job besides coaching. Has that has 188 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:22,959 Speaker 3: that been tough to adapt to. I mean, how you 189 00:08:22,958 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 3: know travel, but the guys are doing with this all. 190 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:29,479 Speaker 4: But the travel part of it, this isn't basketball like 191 00:08:29,559 --> 00:08:31,799 Speaker 4: I just saw. I think Golden State's on the road 192 00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:34,279 Speaker 4: for like twelve days, like we've travel one day a 193 00:08:34,319 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 4: week if that, and you know a lot of these 194 00:08:36,199 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 4: are home games, So the travel parts not it. I 195 00:08:39,078 --> 00:08:41,519 Speaker 4: would say as far as like just time management, it's 196 00:08:41,519 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 4: all about football for me, which is exciting and I 197 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,039 Speaker 4: love to do it. And I don't really look at 198 00:08:46,078 --> 00:08:48,238 Speaker 4: things in time. I look at it as energy, like 199 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:49,998 Speaker 4: where do I want to put my energy? It's not 200 00:08:50,039 --> 00:08:51,478 Speaker 4: about time. I'm going to be he until one in 201 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 4: the morning, twelve got a night anyway, So it's where 202 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:54,878 Speaker 4: do I focus my energy. 203 00:08:55,199 --> 00:08:59,279 Speaker 7: We've been talking earlier about possible games overseas. There's a 204 00:08:59,279 --> 00:09:02,239 Speaker 7: game in Ireland, I guess Rocherkadel mentioned yesterday next to 205 00:09:02,239 --> 00:09:05,159 Speaker 7: your Patriots would be rumored about possibly playing there. Do 206 00:09:05,239 --> 00:09:07,239 Speaker 7: you think there's ever a chance that the NFL would 207 00:09:07,239 --> 00:09:10,399 Speaker 7: have a team based in Europe or do you think 208 00:09:10,399 --> 00:09:11,639 Speaker 7: that that could never get done? 209 00:09:11,879 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 4: I don't want to say never. The game is growing exponentially, 210 00:09:15,599 --> 00:09:20,159 Speaker 4: the people watching the game, men, women, different countries. It's 211 00:09:20,199 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 4: a very exciting game and I don't want to say never. 212 00:09:24,079 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 3: Time now for the helmets Male Question of the Week. 213 00:09:26,599 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 3: You can purchase helmets at your local Walmart or grocery 214 00:09:29,079 --> 00:09:32,639 Speaker 3: store to add extra deliciousness and creamy flavor to your 215 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,879 Speaker 3: game day dishes. This football season, at one point, I 216 00:09:36,879 --> 00:09:40,359 Speaker 3: think you guaranteed over four wins for this football time 217 00:09:40,719 --> 00:09:44,239 Speaker 3: on this show. You're I know you're a goal setter. 218 00:09:44,599 --> 00:09:47,399 Speaker 3: Did you did you go into this season for yourself 219 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 3: setting a goal when it came to wins. 220 00:09:50,159 --> 00:09:53,119 Speaker 4: No, For me, it was as the season continued to 221 00:09:53,119 --> 00:09:55,119 Speaker 4: progress that we are that team, but no one wants 222 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:57,039 Speaker 4: to play at the end of the season. It was 223 00:09:57,079 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 4: about getting better and I knew there would be bumps 224 00:09:59,199 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 4: along the road. And I think everyone knew that, at 225 00:10:01,239 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 4: least inside the building. You guys probably didn't. Last time 226 00:10:03,439 --> 00:10:05,879 Speaker 4: I was in here, he told me that the rosters 227 00:10:05,919 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 4: that he thought our roster was better than and he 228 00:10:07,759 --> 00:10:18,838 Speaker 4: named all you know city and said, I said Chicago, Chicago. 229 00:10:18,999 --> 00:10:21,119 Speaker 4: But that was going into the season, and again like 230 00:10:21,159 --> 00:10:24,479 Speaker 4: and you beat Chicago, yeah, but domin Man, you still yeah, 231 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,119 Speaker 4: but if you were to go back and this is 232 00:10:27,159 --> 00:10:29,519 Speaker 4: the not the It's funny to me at this point 233 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 4: because I've all still work in the media where you 234 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 4: guys have to guess on all these things. If you 235 00:10:33,439 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 4: went back, but you guys, how how many more hours 236 00:10:36,119 --> 00:10:37,759 Speaker 4: are you guys on the show? You should go back 237 00:10:38,199 --> 00:10:40,718 Speaker 4: look at Chicago's roster at the beginning and how you 238 00:10:40,879 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 4: felt about that roster and our roster and just do 239 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:44,399 Speaker 4: a side by side. 240 00:10:44,479 --> 00:10:45,958 Speaker 8: And I don't I know you're not going to say 241 00:10:45,959 --> 00:10:48,718 Speaker 8: it's just like I told you, Cat, but again, I 242 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:50,879 Speaker 8: would say, we got a room full of guys, you know, 243 00:10:50,959 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 8: guys that want to get better, guys that are hungry, 244 00:10:53,639 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 8: and I appreciate that. 245 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:57,479 Speaker 1: I know you're not going to say it, but it's 246 00:10:57,519 --> 00:10:58,119 Speaker 1: my pleasure. 247 00:10:58,999 --> 00:11:02,159 Speaker 7: It took you for fewer weeks to get to three 248 00:11:02,199 --> 00:11:04,879 Speaker 7: wins than it did your predecessor last year, Well done, 249 00:11:05,039 --> 00:11:06,879 Speaker 7: three and seven, Bill was two and eight. 250 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: You're dominated, Curtis is obsessed. 251 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:11,359 Speaker 4: You know you can tell somebody's. 252 00:11:10,919 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: Got to support the guy. I mean, everybody else craps 253 00:11:13,439 --> 00:11:14,399 Speaker 1: on Bail all the time. 254 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,239 Speaker 4: It's fine, it's fine, though. Look it's part of the job. 255 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,958 Speaker 4: You can crap on me or we can be undefeated, 256 00:11:19,959 --> 00:11:21,759 Speaker 4: and I'll still crap on me. I mean that's part 257 00:11:21,759 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 4: of the business. 258 00:11:22,239 --> 00:11:23,799 Speaker 1: You're ahead of the curve with the greatest coach of 259 00:11:23,799 --> 00:11:24,799 Speaker 1: all time. It's a good start. 260 00:11:25,439 --> 00:11:30,479 Speaker 3: How often do you talk to to uh thunder under 261 00:11:30,479 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 3: that's craft every week? 262 00:11:32,999 --> 00:11:33,239 Speaker 4: Yeah? 263 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 3: Every day, he's so he's every day, every. 264 00:11:36,079 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 4: Day, every day, Yeah, every day he allowed I will 265 00:11:38,759 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 4: say this, and I've said this before. I'm appreciative of 266 00:11:41,479 --> 00:11:45,039 Speaker 4: the opportunity to let me deal with the football stuff. 267 00:11:45,079 --> 00:11:48,239 Speaker 4: But you know, look, he's managed people, He's led people, 268 00:11:48,279 --> 00:11:51,359 Speaker 4: he continues the lead people, and anytime I have a 269 00:11:51,479 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 4: question about that, about situations, it's not always unique to sports. 270 00:11:55,479 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 4: It's about relationships. He's a great resource. 271 00:11:58,839 --> 00:12:00,639 Speaker 6: Does it feel like when you guys look ahead to 272 00:12:00,799 --> 00:12:02,639 Speaker 6: the rest of the season. I mean we have to 273 00:12:02,719 --> 00:12:05,279 Speaker 6: because it's media, But for you, do you feel like 274 00:12:05,319 --> 00:12:08,279 Speaker 6: you guys could be a playoff team seven games left? 275 00:12:08,319 --> 00:12:12,359 Speaker 4: For us, it's about week after week after week getting 276 00:12:12,359 --> 00:12:14,279 Speaker 4: to want to know. And I think if we do that, 277 00:12:14,439 --> 00:12:16,999 Speaker 4: get to want to know every week, then we'll be 278 00:12:16,999 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 4: able to look back and wherever we are we are. 279 00:12:19,479 --> 00:12:21,279 Speaker 5: How do you make sure because I think it was 280 00:12:21,359 --> 00:12:22,999 Speaker 5: key On White who said it after the game, there 281 00:12:23,079 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 5: was some younger. 282 00:12:23,999 --> 00:12:25,399 Speaker 4: You know, we've got a lot of young guys on 283 00:12:25,439 --> 00:12:25,759 Speaker 4: this team. 284 00:12:25,799 --> 00:12:30,119 Speaker 5: How do you make sure that they the younger players 285 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:34,399 Speaker 5: specially focusing Like you said, it's week to week, but 286 00:12:34,439 --> 00:12:37,239 Speaker 5: it's play to play, it's practice to practice. How do 287 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:40,799 Speaker 5: you make sure that they understand that and buy into that, 288 00:12:41,719 --> 00:12:44,799 Speaker 5: you know, because it's completely different than what they're used to. 289 00:12:45,279 --> 00:12:48,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I lean heavily on the captains, and I would 290 00:12:49,079 --> 00:12:51,399 Speaker 4: also say I lean heavily on guys that have played 291 00:12:51,399 --> 00:12:54,838 Speaker 4: a lot. You know, my message is always one thing 292 00:12:54,879 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 4: to the to the team, but it's the captains and 293 00:12:57,639 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: the leadership group on the team to really disseminate that 294 00:13:00,719 --> 00:13:02,799 Speaker 4: message to the young guys and continue to be that 295 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 4: day after day, play after play a voice for them. 296 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:08,919 Speaker 4: It's one thing to hear something from your parents. Your 297 00:13:08,919 --> 00:13:11,519 Speaker 4: parents tell you not to do something that It's different 298 00:13:11,519 --> 00:13:14,039 Speaker 4: when your brother your sister tells you you shouldn't do it. 299 00:13:14,199 --> 00:13:16,359 Speaker 4: But I do think, you know, just those multiple touch 300 00:13:16,359 --> 00:13:17,399 Speaker 4: points keep them in line. 301 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 5: Are you looked at It's interesting because you bring that 302 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:23,639 Speaker 5: up and we have this conversation all the time, even 303 00:13:23,639 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 5: though you're a former player. Do they really like look 304 00:13:27,719 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 5: at that element of it or is it like where, 305 00:13:30,759 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 5: all right, he I coach played, but he's the coach, 306 00:13:33,759 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Is it that weird balance 307 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 5: that you're trying to always kind of balance on. Do 308 00:13:38,079 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 5: you feel like they sometimes see you as the former 309 00:13:40,599 --> 00:13:42,919 Speaker 5: player or do you always see you as like the coach, 310 00:13:42,959 --> 00:13:45,399 Speaker 5: you know, where it's always the parent not the friend. 311 00:13:45,719 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 4: You know, that's a great question. It's probably I know 312 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:51,999 Speaker 4: you guys have players on this on this on this station, 313 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 4: so that's a better question for them what I would 314 00:13:54,599 --> 00:13:57,159 Speaker 4: say as a player. For me, no matter what level, 315 00:13:57,639 --> 00:14:02,399 Speaker 4: I've always held the head coach and even the coordinators. Uh, 316 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:05,159 Speaker 4: it was it was always like a reverence there, you 317 00:14:05,239 --> 00:14:07,799 Speaker 4: know what I mean. It was always like especially you know, 318 00:14:07,839 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 4: there was a point in time where you know, single 319 00:14:10,119 --> 00:14:12,519 Speaker 4: parent home, you know, before my stepdad and all that stuff. 320 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,599 Speaker 4: My grandparents would do the best job, my grandfather would 321 00:14:14,599 --> 00:14:16,399 Speaker 4: do his best job, but where the head coach almost 322 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,999 Speaker 4: was like a father figure, especially younger and for all 323 00:14:20,039 --> 00:14:22,319 Speaker 4: the young people listening to this, if you have a 324 00:14:22,359 --> 00:14:26,039 Speaker 4: good coach, there's nothing better than that. It's not about 325 00:14:26,159 --> 00:14:28,959 Speaker 4: you know, when I see youth football and people drawn 326 00:14:29,039 --> 00:14:32,079 Speaker 4: up double reverse crack plays and like all that stuff, 327 00:14:32,079 --> 00:14:34,239 Speaker 4: It's like, that's not what it's about at that level. 328 00:14:34,439 --> 00:14:37,239 Speaker 4: And I say, this sport definitely teaches you how to 329 00:14:37,279 --> 00:14:39,519 Speaker 4: deal with adversity. It teaches you how to be able 330 00:14:39,599 --> 00:14:42,839 Speaker 4: to push through. It teaches you how to ignore all 331 00:14:42,879 --> 00:14:45,439 Speaker 4: the stuff going on around you. You know, obviously at 332 00:14:45,479 --> 00:14:47,679 Speaker 4: this level right here, there's a bunch of noise. And 333 00:14:47,679 --> 00:14:49,519 Speaker 4: I would say, the guys in our locker room, they 334 00:14:49,559 --> 00:14:53,639 Speaker 4: are younger guys, and they're also still developing as men, 335 00:14:54,439 --> 00:14:57,759 Speaker 4: and I think it's very easy for us to to 336 00:14:57,879 --> 00:15:02,879 Speaker 4: really forget about them as people. And my message to 337 00:15:02,919 --> 00:15:04,919 Speaker 4: them has always been I care about you more as 338 00:15:04,919 --> 00:15:07,279 Speaker 4: a person, and all the staff. I care about the 339 00:15:07,319 --> 00:15:09,679 Speaker 4: men and women in there more as people than I 340 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:13,519 Speaker 4: do football players or chief of whatever it is. 341 00:15:14,159 --> 00:15:16,559 Speaker 3: Speaking of parents, I'm guessing your mom didn't have much 342 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:17,759 Speaker 3: to criticize this week. 343 00:15:19,799 --> 00:15:23,239 Speaker 4: My mom, she's it's weird, you know. Once again, I'll 344 00:15:23,319 --> 00:15:25,479 Speaker 4: use this platform to talk to my mom. Now we 345 00:15:25,559 --> 00:15:27,799 Speaker 4: lose a game. She doesn't even call me anymore. 346 00:15:28,119 --> 00:15:32,279 Speaker 1: Oh, Madre, So you're hoping for a phone call. 347 00:15:32,319 --> 00:15:35,959 Speaker 4: At least I will say that she sent she sends 348 00:15:36,079 --> 00:15:40,759 Speaker 4: uh text all the time? Is you know, philosophical things 349 00:15:40,879 --> 00:15:43,999 Speaker 4: or development things, and last week she talked about she 350 00:15:44,079 --> 00:15:47,759 Speaker 4: sent me a text on having a beginner's mind because 351 00:15:47,799 --> 00:15:50,959 Speaker 4: the expert mind sometimes isn't as malleable, isn't as open 352 00:15:50,999 --> 00:15:55,919 Speaker 4: to criticism, or as open to growing and changing, and 353 00:15:55,959 --> 00:15:58,959 Speaker 4: so having that beginner's mindset that's for the people. Yeah. 354 00:15:59,119 --> 00:16:01,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good nugget right there, right, No, ten 355 00:16:01,479 --> 00:16:02,919 Speaker 5: on you, all right, thanks Jr. 356 00:16:03,599 --> 00:16:03,919 Speaker 4: Thanks. 357 00:16:04,079 --> 00:16:06,919 Speaker 2: Patriots Playbook joined John Rook as he brings you all 358 00:16:06,959 --> 00:16:10,359 Speaker 2: the latest Patriots Talking an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 359 00:16:10,999 --> 00:16:13,399 Speaker 2: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent beat 360 00:16:13,399 --> 00:16:15,479 Speaker 2: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 361 00:16:15,479 --> 00:16:16,119 Speaker 2: state of the team. 362 00:16:16,199 --> 00:16:17,639 Speaker 4: But where the Patriots are concerned. 363 00:16:17,919 --> 00:16:20,199 Speaker 2: Let's just get one thing done and let's get it 364 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:21,799 Speaker 2: done right and then. 365 00:16:21,679 --> 00:16:23,199 Speaker 1: We can worry about versatility. 366 00:16:23,319 --> 00:16:24,519 Speaker 2: Am I lying to anybody here? 367 00:16:24,759 --> 00:16:26,199 Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done. 368 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:28,919 Speaker 3: Let's get one thing done right, and then we can 369 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:29,519 Speaker 3: move along. 370 00:16:29,599 --> 00:16:30,999 Speaker 1: Let's kind of my biggest thing. 371 00:16:31,119 --> 00:16:33,719 Speaker 2: Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts.