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Speaker 1: I'm ready. I'm always ready.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready as well, and I'm going to do your intro.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna stick and watch you.

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Speaker 2: Do my next and rate me. Could you give me

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: The highest?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, let's go.

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Speaker 2: My next guest is an actor you know and love

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Speaker 2: from Modern Family, his podcast Dinners on Me, and the

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Speaker 2: star of the Broadway show True is Jesse Tyler Ferguson.

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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, that was a four point five?

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Speaker 2: What could I have done better?

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Speaker 1: Well? True's technically off Broadway, but that's like you did

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Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that information. That's exactly so you're half

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Speaker 1: point off on the introduction.

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Speaker 2: Never's doing the intros because.

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Speaker 1: Of someone else. Yeah, it's complete sabotage.

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Speaker 2: Can I do over? No?

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Speaker 1: You have to like live with what you've done. This

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Speaker 1: is an imperfect podcast. You told me it's true, so

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Speaker 1: we have to let that. We have to let it go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm happy you're here.

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Speaker 1: But I love that you upgraded it as a Broadway show.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, manifestation is big.

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Speaker 1: You never know, you never know.

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Speaker 2: Could it go be on?

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think i'd want it to.

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Speaker 2: I'm tired, are you tired. How many shows a week

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Speaker 1: Only six shows a week, but it's mostly it's all mean.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a one man show.

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Speaker 2: So it's just it's a lot of work that is exhausting.

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Speaker 2: Do you have any regrets about it?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm very I was trying to think of a

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Speaker 1: I love doing it. It's like artistically very satisfying.

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Speaker 2: Oh good, okay, so wonderful. I'm so happy to have

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Speaker 2: you here with me. Thank you for making time. Who

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Speaker 2: or what do you want to say thanks to?

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Speaker 1: I want to say thanks to this beautiful day. We

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Speaker 1: have been suffering so hard in New York with this,

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Speaker 1: with this winter. Yeah, I kept thinking. I was like,

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Speaker 1: if this winter gives me any more mixed messages, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to fall in love with it. It is you, so

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Speaker 1: every like every other day, it was like what what

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Speaker 1: the fact that I think we're finally out of it

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Speaker 2: Okay, famous last words, because I'm concerned that we're going

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Speaker 1: I'm okay with a little rain. I mean I live

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Speaker 1: it there well, the driving, the driving and just you know,

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Speaker 2: Fair enough? So you know the weather here New York

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Speaker 2: Okay, you want warmth, I'm rooting for warmth, right, yes?

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Speaker 2: Or do you take two showers on a very hot

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Speaker 1: I did Shakespeare in the Park last summer, and so

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Speaker 2: is New York. It's the beauty, don't you love.

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Speaker 1: You see it's an empty subway car, Colm, and you're like,

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Speaker 2: change peace to chaos. Chaos, But we love New York

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Speaker 2: for that, do so are you you're based then in LA,

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Speaker 1: I've considered this like spiritually my home. Sure, but I've

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Speaker 2: Fair fair enough, imagine, I say it's not that's not fair.

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Speaker 1: It's not fair.

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Speaker 2: Your choices now, you said, look at you, Yeah, burn easily.

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Speaker 2: What's your methodology? Hat? This hat?

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Speaker 1: I got the sunscreen. I wear swim shirts like I'm

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Speaker 1: like I'm really bringing my la vibe to me. I'm

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Speaker 1: going into a hyperbaric oxygen chamber. What is is that

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Speaker 1: And then once it's pressurized, they pump in purified oxygen

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Speaker 2: Like you feel like your skin is better, You're breathing improves.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know. I feel like it's like of

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Speaker 2: The CEA stands for something else? It's not a D,

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Speaker 2: rejuvenating cells. That's a good question. All the supplements are.

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Speaker 2: Coq ten I'm taking as well, But what.

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Speaker 2: your research.

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Speaker 1: I'm none right, yeah exactly. Can I piggyback on that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like I know, like Tumeric's good for like joint pain,

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Speaker 2: Okay, like just a turmerk supplement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, I'm like, can I just I have

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Speaker 1: the like the spice in my drawer? Can I just

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Speaker 1: down yeah that? Yeah, like the cinnamon challenge, and I thought.

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Speaker 2: grade doing the cinnamon challenge.

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Speaker 1: Wait, the cinnamon challenge exists, has been around for that long?

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Speaker 2: Well, not a big that would send me into a spiral.

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Speaker 2: I have been doing it more regularly. I like it.

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Speaker 2: Maybe do you have siblings?

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Speaker 1: I do? I do?

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Speaker 1: indoor kid, you know what I mean. And so I

437
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 1: was just like think wired to be good. And I

438
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: was very driven though I knew what I wanted to do.

439
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 1: I knew I wanted to be an actor. Yeah, And

440
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: that was, like I think, because I was a very

441
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 1: shy kid who did not have a lot of friends,

442
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: like I was bullied a lot, and so like I

443
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 1: was the theater community that I found outside of school

444
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 1: was like, oh, these are where all the weirdos are.

445
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: So like I knew what I wanted to do, So

446
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: the pressure for me with my siblings was actually more.

447
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like there might have been

448
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure from them feeling like, oh,

449
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 1: Jesse knows exactly what he wants to do. Yeah, Like

450
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: I felt like they felt more pressure because they were

451
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: still like taking time to figure it out.

452
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 2: Sure, you know, did you ever have a plan be

453
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: at all?

454
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: In hindsight? No, but like I know now just in

455
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: like what I was like, I you know, I have

456
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 1: interest now and like I love art and I love cooking,

457
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 1: and like I feel like I would have gone to

458
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: culinary school or I would have done something in the

459
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: advertising world or something, but at the time, there was

460
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: like no backup plan.

461
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: This is it. Yeah, where did you grow up?

462
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: Albuquerque?

463
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 2: Albuquerque? Yes, Albuquerque, New Mexico. Not a good place to

464
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 2: be a redhead, a sunburn as a child. Yeah, but

465
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: you look at you now, you're in LA I know.

466
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: Also not the greatest place.

467
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,879
Speaker 1: To be, but with more wisdom about how I should

468
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: be navigating myself through those aerated climates.

469
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Now now your skin is in your hands.

470
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: What else is in the skincare routine? By the way,

471
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 2: what else?

472
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm I do get facials a lot. There's this wand

473
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 1: that's like a cooling wand for underneath my eyes. I

474
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 1: love that thing.

475
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 2: Is it the thera?

476
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: Yes?

477
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: Yes, tiny gardener gave me one for Christmas a couple

478
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 2: of years ago. It's really nice, really nice, good And

479
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 2: when I've had a headache though, putting in on the

480
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 2: heating where you're like, I just want heat right at

481
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: the right it's really nice.

482
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Speaker 1: Perfect. Yeah, my kids are obsessed with it. I'm like,

483
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't think you should be putting that in any

484
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: face when you're young.

485
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: How many kids do you have?

486
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: I have two kids around four and seven. They're about

487
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: to change ages, but yeah, young little ones, little ones,

488
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: two boys.

489
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Speaker 2: Did you always know you wanted to be a dad?

490
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Speaker 1: I think I did. I I'm I was born in

491
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: seventy five, so like for me, like being gay, having

492
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: a family was not really something that I always like

493
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 1: strived for. My husband is ten years younger than me,

494
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: and I think he and he also he grew up

495
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: in California, and so for him, I think he just

496
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: always knew that was a possibility. And so he's actually

497
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: been really wonderful to go through this experience of like,

498
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, fighting for marriage equality because like he had

499
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: like this belief that it could happen for me. I

500
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: was like, do you do you really think it might happen?

501
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: Of course?

502
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: So well, and like he so he I think always

503
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: had a program that he wanted to be a dad,

504
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: and it was really nice to have him along this

505
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 1: stride because I think he just always knew it was

506
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: just amount of time. I was like, I don't know,

507
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: is it possible? Even yeah? So yeah, but I'm I

508
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: think I always had the desire.

509
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, between the two of you, though, who is the

510
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: like disciplinarian maybe like a little stricter, cautious, And who's

511
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: the fun time or are you?

512
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: I thought I would be more disciplinarian, and I'm definitely

513
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,360
Speaker 1: more the fun time. Justin's fun. But like I remember

514
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: when he was away for ten days and I just

515
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: had the boys by myself, and he came back from

516
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: this vacation and it was like, oh, Dad's home.

517
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.

518
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: I think he even said he's like, yeah, I'm back. Yes.

519
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well least.

520
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, your absence created a levity. Yes, exactly, you're

521
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: back and okay, yeah everyone so he knows it. Yeah,

522
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 2: and that's and that's fine. I wonder myself. I go

523
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 2: back and forth between I want to have kids. I

524
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: go back and forth between like will I be fun

525
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: or will I be strict? Because I'm kind of type A. Yeah,

526
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: So are you Type A or type.

527
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: I am Type A?

528
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

529
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: I am like I like things of a specific way,

530
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm the type of person that will like adjust

531
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: the lights in the room from another location, like I'll

532
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: get on the cameras like no, that's too right, just

533
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: on the loutron on my app. And you're not even

534
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: in this space.

535
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 2: But I won't let the.

536
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: People who space which I will eventually be in, I

537
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: need to walk into the space.

538
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 2: It would be days from now exactly, but I need

539
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: it to look like this. Do you have cameras in

540
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: every most of the rooms in your mouth?

541
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: Just two rooms inside and then it's everything else is outside,

542
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: but at the kitchen and the living room, which is

543
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: like the main spaces. Yeah, I don't really know why

544
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: we have cameras inside the house. I don't really love.

545
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: That, but It is an interesting I have a lot

546
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 2: of my friends have cameras in their places and they

547
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: just live with themselves, and I'm like, who.

548
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: Do you think is yeah, exactly the pets.

549
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: And one has a pet, so would make sense, But

550
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: a few others I'm like, no pet, just a camera

551
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: in the house and who are you watching? Yeah, okay,

552
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: here's my thing with the cameras. Do you think that

553
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: the cameras are really helping us catch intruders? Because the

554
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 2: number of things I've seen on social media that are

555
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: like my ring camera picked up this person who keeps

556
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: stealing my packages or my ring camera picked up Ye.

557
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, great, does anybody on the internet know this person? Probably,

558
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: but I'm not seeing you catch them, right, So now.

559
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: It's just proof that something's happening. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

560
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: I have a friend who got robbed and she had

561
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: a camera in her closet, so like they have like

562
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: footage of like the thief like literally ransacking her closet

563
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: and taking her jewelry. And I was like, that's great,

564
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: now what it's just your place the jewelry. Watched the

565
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: video like, well, that's scary, your jewelry is gone. Exactly

566
00:26:54,160 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: what a film. It's a beautiful nominated Yeah.

567
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna want to Yeah, yeah, exactly. Your jewelry's right. Yeah,

568
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: I keep thinking I want to get a camera, but

569
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't. I don't. I don't in my

570
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: New York apartment. But I'm like, why I don't. I

571
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: don't understand what would it do? I don't know, but

572
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 2: I but I, but I get it the comfort speeds

573
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 2: of mind, you know that, just in case you could

574
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: get a short film out of it. Exactly, show friends

575
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: over one.

576
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: If you go on I mean I will go into

577
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: holes on Instagram, you know where I like people the

578
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: people falling down, And it's just because like people are

579
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: constantly recording themselves. Yeah yeah, uploading it.

580
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 2: And going I do number I don't mine. Do you

581
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: go down a lot of rabbit holes on social media?

582
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: I wish I didn't, but I do. I need. I

583
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: need to have a cleansing of my I need to

584
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: do a detox.

585
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: Do you do you want to do a detext because

586
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: you don't like what the algorithm is giving you or

587
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: you're spending too much time or both. Yeah?

588
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay for sure.

589
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: How many hours would you say you are on social

590
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 2: media a day. God, I feel not apple about it.

591
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: Just when I'm home with my family, it's not that much.

592
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: But I'm my kids are in l A and I'm

593
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: here by myself, and it's a it's a this.

594
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: Is imperfect podcast. Yeah, and so what we're gonna act

595
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: like you don't do that?

596
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes we actually amplify it.

597
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's actually crank the volume is guys.

598
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: But now that I'm by myself, I uh, it's a lot.

599
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: It's a lot.

600
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: As I don't scrolling. It's not hurting anyone. I'm gonna

601
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: taking time away from anyone else.

602
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 2: It's just the quality of your mond. No problem, no problem.

603
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: But too much.

604
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: But it's easy. It's too easy, and the algorithm, this

605
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: is not profound what I'm about to say. Just keep

606
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: showing me stuff that I'm like, I just talked about

607
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: that thing yesterday, this most obscure thing, and now you're

608
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: feeding it to me. And then and then I actually

609
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: think when they're a little too spot on with that,

610
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 2: and it's so specific and it's so not in the

611
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: zeit ice but shows up on my feet, I'm like,

612
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: you're having the opposite effect on me, because now I'm

613
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: like i'm putting my phone away, I actually get spooked

614
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't like that that happened, and

615
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 2: I put the phone down, but I'm not a lot.

616
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: But then I pick it up.

617
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: Of course, do you with the screen time notification from

618
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: Apple that it gives every.

619
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: Week, I'm very annoyed with that. That's been really passive aggressive.

620
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Just see now, just just see you now it's Sunday,

621
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: and just see you now.

622
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: Hey, you're having a nice high.

623
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: So can we just sort of recap your week?

624
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: Just see you now and compared to you.

625
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: I hate it.

626
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: It's so terrible.

627
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: I haven't turned it off, though I know I haven't either.

628
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: It's a little masochistic to keep it on, but it's

629
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: just easier to just keep it.

630
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: There was this thing that was using for like two

631
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: point five days called the Brick. About this, I've heard

632
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: about the h and you.

633
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: So you got the brick, you paid for the Brick,

634
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 2: You used it for two point five days? Ye did

635
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,239
Speaker 2: you find it effective? And why did you stop using it?

636
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: I stopped using it because it so the brick. You

637
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: scan your phone on like this brick, and then it

638
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: blocks all these apps that you have to choose. You

639
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: have to like program your phones, like what do you

640
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: need for the day, and basically you scan scan it

641
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: front on the brick, leave the house, leave the brick

642
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: at home, and then you just have the things that

643
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: you need on your phone. And I blocked like a

644
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: lot of things on my phone obviously, But then I

645
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: would be out and about and I was like, oh,

646
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: I need to look that up for like, I don't

647
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: know if I was at a restaurant or something, and

648
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to like look up what this dish is

649
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: because I didn't want to speak to the way, of course,

650
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: but I you know, it wasn't available to me. It

651
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh crap, I like blocked too many things,

652
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: and so I just found myself needing. I mean I

653
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: really only wanted social media blocked, which I need, so

654
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: I need to go back and and reprogram the phone

655
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: to like, but then that was like I needed, like

656
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I had marked something on Instagram. I remember that's what

657
00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: it was. I'd marked like a restaurant on Instagram that

658
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to try, and like, yeah, I was in

659
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. I knew the restaurant was. I couldn't remember

660
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: the name of it, and I was like, I'll just

661
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: look on Instagram and it wasn't available to me, and

662
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: the brick was at home. The brick was at home.

663
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: That would piss me off, IM, Like, I couldn't I

664
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: see why the brick. You're not on the brick anymore?

665
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: So, Yeah, but it is.

666
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: It's clearly effective. But what you want to have is

667
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: just like appropriate boundaries around social media as opposed to

668
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: like you cannot touch this because I too, My friend

669
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: bookmark a restaurant and dishes and we.

670
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Have to talk about that.

671
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: We have to talk what is your food source, your restaurant?

672
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: Are you on eater? Are you on what is it? Infatuation?

673
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: REI has some publications as well.

674
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: You know, I haven't got into the resuds.

675
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: Obviously it's biased because it's like restaurant restaurants that are

676
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: on RESI.

677
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: I like infatuation a lot. YEAHSI can tend to be

678
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: not eater. Eater can tend to be a little tabloid O.

679
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?

680
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: I just feel like giving a little snarky for no reason. Okay,

681
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: I feel like infatuation is a little bit more like

682
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: grounded in reality, right right. I like eter though, Like

683
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: I like their heat maps and like tells you like

684
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: where to go, like what's hot and at the time,

685
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: like I think they're good for that. Sometimes I find

686
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: they're like articles to be a little like just a

687
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: little mean spirited. Okay, although they're like the ones who

688
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: were like, you know, blow up the stories about like

689
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: chef's behaving badly and like.

690
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's the owners in La Frog No horses

691
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: horses horses because then they did froll Club in New York, right,

692
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: same team. Yes, And I was sitting in the dining

693
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: room with someone when doing like a friends and family

694
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: seating at w and and did you like it?

695
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was overrated And I like that chef.

696
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: I think she's great. Yeah, But there was an item

697
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: on the mini did you see, like kiss the chef

698
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: for like a thousand dollars?

699
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: No, I did not see that. That wasn't on the

700
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: friends and family men. You tell me what was that

701
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: was literally did you kiss her on the mouth?

702
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

703
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: I didn't.

704
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: I didn't order it.

705
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't a dish. It was an experience.

706
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: It was like called kiss the chef, and it was

707
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: like there was a price to it, which I thought

708
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: was so weird.

709
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: That is very weird.

710
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: I can't imagine.

711
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: I want to know who who knows? For one thousand dollars,

712
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: would you let.

713
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: Maybe I might be upping the price, maybe it's five hundred.

714
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: It was something still for a five hundred dollars.

715
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,719
Speaker 1: There was also a very expensive dessert, like a Sunday

716
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: that was super price. Maybe it's a Sunday and kiss

717
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: the chef to just.

718
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: To oneuper one. Yeah, you get a Sunday, a little

719
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: ice cream and a little kiss.

720
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't.

721
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: I have a hard time remembering that meal. I went

722
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: on Valentine's Day with a group of people and I

723
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: remember just we were like the chef the cats.

724
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

725
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: I read half of that article. I should pick it

726
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: back up.

727
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: It's fascinating.

728
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read.

729
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of twists and turns. That's like it's

730
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: like a podcast. Okay, I mean they need to do

731
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: more about that.

732
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: I need more information, yes, okay, I need to get

733
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: into it. So you're so your go Do you ever

734
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: use YELP?

735
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't.

736
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: What do you think your aversion to it is?

737
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: It feels like the Applebee's of like of food blogs.

738
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm old and I'm the Applebee's.

739
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: Just like the stuff I'm gonna find on yelp is like, yeah, yeah, Chili's.

740
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: I know I know about Chilis. I know I know

741
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: about the blue.

742
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: From this podcast.

743
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: Yelp is, are you a sponsor?

744
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thanks dad? Sponsored by I mean yeah, sponsored

745
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: by Yelp. Yelp is like unbiased. I feel of course

746
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: people are sending because also people kind of like left

747
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: it behind in a way vintage. We will see it

748
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 2: as vintage. I think it's a pure place I find

749
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: in terms of reviewing, because even when I talk about

750
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: the PubL locations, the publications are like, great, you had

751
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: a great publicist who got you in the Eater list

752
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 2: of ten best new restaurants in New York. We have

753
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 2: to I want, I'm supposed to do your podcast at

754
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: some point, so we'll deep dive on food then sure, ye.

755
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 2: But Yelp, I think it's just sort of like people

756
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: think of it as vintage. It's not particularly cool to people.

757
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: I love the app is on my phone. I'm obsessed

758
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 2: with Yelp.

759
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: See when I click on something online and it takes

760
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: me to Yelp. First of all, it's not on my phone.

761
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: So it makes me like you have to download the app? Yeah,

762
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: and I just get like, really, maybe that's what it is.

763
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: It takes me to like a place where I don't

764
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: have access to it.

765
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: Yes, It's kind of like when the Brick was at

766
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: home and you're trying to open Instagram and then you're like,

767
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 2: I'm done with you. I'm done with Give Yelp a shot.

768
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I will. I sort of just feel like it's

769
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: like opening up like the Facebook comments, like like from

770
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: like my aunt, you know, like I'm like, h.

771
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: I get off Yelp.

772
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: No, I'm lovely youse. I just read I did sign

773
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 1: up for Yelp to leave a review at a place

774
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: that I was so annoyed with. It was a coffee

775
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: shop in my neighborhood in Silver like Money Silves, Silver

776
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: Lake in LA. And this great coffee shop opened up,

777
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: and I remember like standing in line behind one person

778
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: for like fifteen minutes while there was like nineteen employees

779
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: behind the counter, just like bumping into one another, and

780
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on. I finally get

781
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: my coffee and it was a delicious cup of coffee,

782
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: but I was like, I'm signing up for Yelp, and

783
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm leaving it because that was crazy. That was crazy.

784
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: The tur Aun time should not be fifteen minutes for

785
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: a cup of coffee with one person in front of me.

786
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was somewhere recently where I was the only

787
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: person in line and it did take. This is no joke.

788
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: I was twelve minutes. Twelve minutes for a cup of macha.

789
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: But there was It wasn't like we're specialty macha place either.

790
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: It's like you have it in a squirt bottle that

791
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: you already fixed and you're gonna put it in there

792
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: with milk bank. But it wasn't blank It wasn't Blank Street.

793
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a place in Lower Manhattan and I

794
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: knew not to go in because every time I've ever

795
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: gone and it's been like the slowest service, inexplicably, So.

796
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 1: So you knew.

797
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 2: But then I was like, today will be different.

798
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: I like that you knew, and you were like you

799
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: basically were like and.

800
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: That's and I got minutes and there was no one

801
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: else in line. It was It's it is crazy. But

802
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: also the number of reviews on Yelp that are just

803
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: that because it's like this person's left one review and

804
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: it's one star. They are pissed off. It's it's a

805
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 2: thing there. So how did you get so into food?

806
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: I I mean, I always like after I moved to

807
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: New York, because now I was not exposed to a

808
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: lot of like interesting food. I mean, they have a

809
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: delicious like that New Mexican food. It's incredible and it's

810
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things and I miss it all

811
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: the time. But like I just didn't have and it's

812
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: something like Indian food didn't exist. I just wasn't exposed

813
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: to it, Like my family never went. And when I

814
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: came to New it was like this great melting pot

815
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: of you know, an incredible culinary scene, and so like

816
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: I just my world was opened up. And then when

817
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: I moved to LA, I had like a kitchen that

818
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: I could cook in for the first time, and I

819
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: just started collecting cookbooks and I just kind of loved

820
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: making meals at home and like creating dinner parties and

821
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: and I I guess I sort of like I've always

822
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: wanted to go to culinary school, but I just never

823
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: had time. And I met a friend who at a

824
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: dinner party who told me this idea about a cookbook

825
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: she had, and we ended up becoming friends, and she

826
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: ended up becoming just like we were cooking partners, and

827
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: like she had gone to culinary school and she would

828
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: just teach me like great skills, certain life skills, and

829
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: we ended up developing recipes together and that turned into

830
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: a cookbook years later. And so that was sort of

831
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: like my introduction into like the culinary world. I was

832
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: also like asked to host to James Beard Award to

833
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: few times, which was really cool. So I became friends

834
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: with chefs, and I just sort of became padmaclocks. Mee's

835
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: a really good friend of mine, and so I just

836
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: I was sort of invited into this world of like

837
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: fancy chefs in the culinary scene, and I just I

838
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: just really respect them so much. You know, they're artists

839
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: and their own in their own way, and they work

840
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: so hard, and I I just admire them a lot.

841
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: So I when this I I when Sony came up

842
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 1: to me about a podcast, was they had this idea

843
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: to do something in the culinary world. And one of

844
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 1: the ideas was like me taking people out to different

845
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: restaurants and having conversation over a meal, or is like

846
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: me making a meal at home with someone. I was like,

847
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: that sounds like a lot.

848
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: Of yeah, and then who's going to clean it?

849
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: And I was like, I to the thing where like

850
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: we just go out.

851
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

852
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: So that's where the idea for the podcast came. And

853
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: it's really this, that's the concept. It's just yeah, it's

854
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: just a conversation, but it happens to be for a

855
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: meal and I go to a different restaurant every single time.

856
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: We've never repeated the restaurant.

857
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: So I've ever said yes to doing a podcast sooner

858
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: than when I was. I know, we haven't been able

859
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: to get it on the way. I was like yes,

860
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: and then also being like, are we gonna get to

861
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: do this soon? Because that's my jam. I love to

862
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: eat out and I have no qualms. I I'm cooking

863
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: more now because I have time, and it's really nice

864
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: to get to cook for myself. But cooking for one,

865
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: it's a lot of and it's it's sort of like

866
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: a cost benefit analysis is in play there where I'm like,

867
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to clean up all of this, yeah,

868
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: and it has to be worth it.

869
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: Do you ever have dinner parties?

870
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: I want to have more dinner parties. I would like to.

871
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: I hosted for Christmas this year. I did a bad job.

872
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: But I hosted for Christmas?

873
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: A bad job? Did you need it?

874
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: I was making cocktails. I might have already been a

875
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: little drunk myself, okay, making cocktails for my guests, like,

876
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: who wants to drink? I had no like cocktail menu

877
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: in mind, But I'm like, I have every spirit you

878
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 2: could ever want, and I have decent mixers. But I

879
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: was like, who wants a drink? And then my ass

880
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 2: put the ice in the cup first and then was

881
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: pouring them. No, no, no, no, sorry, that would make

882
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: more sense. I was putting the beverage in the cup first,

883
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: and then spherical ice cube prop into the glass, and

884
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: I knew better as I was doing it. I was

885
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: maybe just nervous to be hosted. I was like, and

886
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: I have, like the measurement for cocktail, the little the

887
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: little what is it even called?

888
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: Like a measurer?

889
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: A measurer? Why don't we have to have specific words

890
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: that sure, the measurer.

891
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: The policeman of the alcohol.

892
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, and I have that, But instead I was

893
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 2: using my little like here's a tea spoon thing like

894
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know why I was, I don't.

895
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: Even to that is you just do a batch cocktail.

896
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking afterwards, like last week, and

897
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: that's months later. I'm like, you should have just done

898
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 2: a batch And it's like this is what I'm offering.

899
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: If you want something else, you need to go somewhere else, or.

900
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: If you're fancy can get you just hire a bartender.

901
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: Well, Jesse, I'm not. It was Christmas. It was Easter

902
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: when you were going to the doctor.

903
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: It was Christmas.

904
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: Every Christian holiday busy, and I couldn't. I could. I

905
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: don't think I could have. Maybe I could have gotten

906
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: a bartender. I just didn't occur to me. There's so

907
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: many things that didn't occur to me with taking drinks. Yeah,

908
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: does someone else you hire a bartender for your or do.

909
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: A batch cocktail? I mean I don't drink anymore, but

910
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: when I did, I would like I was actually like

911
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: really proud of like I made a great martini. So

912
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: I was like happy to do that for people. But

913
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: then I was like stuck behind the bar. And if

914
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm also making the dinner, it's like I can't one

915
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: of the other. Yeah, and you just didn't had to

916
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: learn how to make the cocktails.

917
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: Is he good?

918
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: I mean he learned how to be good? Okay, out

919
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: of necessity. I was like, look, if you want to

920
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 1: make it, Yeah, I'm not making it.

921
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: I don't drink it anymore. So. Has cultivating community, like

922
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: hosting the dinner parties and such been something that's like

923
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: important and intentional on your end? Or is it sort

924
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 2: of like I like cooking and like this is what

925
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 2: I'll do. I have people come over a.

926
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: Little bit of both. I mean I I mean I

927
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: have to. I sometimes that's to be forced into, like

928
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: or like reminded that we should have people over for

929
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: a dinner party because it is a lot of work. Yeah.

930
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: I do like to have like pot lucks where you know,

931
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: people bring other things and it's not all on me,

932
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: But I do. I love having people at my house

933
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: and and you know, entertaining that part is fun. Yeah,

934
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: it's just the work around it.

935
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: It's so much And which is why it's like going

936
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: to a restaurant for the podcast makes.

937
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: A lot so much sense.

938
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have favorites in New York City restaurants? Restaurants? Ye?

939
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: Yes, of course. I love Chiciamo, love Delicious, don Ajesus

940
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: is great.

941
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: The chrysanthemum salad at Donna, isn't it the best?

942
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: It's I love get there to cook. But you can

943
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: make the dressing and it doesn't have to be all

944
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: the fancy greens, but yeah you can. Just it's really

945
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: it's all about the dressing, Okay. I also made their

946
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: their pinwheel pasta once, the Lasana, which is it was

947
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: a three day process, but I did it.

948
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: Worth it?

949
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was delicious. Great Gods, such a

950
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: great Baslonna. What else do I love here? I there's

951
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: so many new places that I love Atla.

952
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: I haven't been. I haven't been to Atla.

953
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: It's great. And uh, friend, Chet.

954
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: Do you have your La favorites?

955
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: Hmm I do. Uh. This is a place near me

956
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: in the valley called Antijac Tie Okay, that's great. Used

957
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: to be this place that like no one really knew about,

958
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: and then Bill Addison, who's the food critic for the

959
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: La Times, named it the best restaurant a few years ago,

960
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: and then now everyone's there. But I kind of love that,

961
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: like they've had this resurgence of excitement around them because

962
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: it's really good and really worth it. Yeah, that's one

963
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: of my top favorite places. Okay, I loved horses, Actually

964
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: you lived.

965
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: I can't remember if I ever went to horses, because

966
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 2: it's really good. Horses was popular around the same time

967
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: as Evan Funky's Mother Wolf. They were like at the

968
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 2: same time, but mother Wolf was still there, still there,

969
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 2: And I just went to Funky in Beverly Hills.

970
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: He's so good. I think I like Funky the best. Yeah,

971
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: he also has one in Venice. I can remember the

972
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: name of it, Giata Gianna.

973
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: I haven't been.

974
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm probably saying it wrong, but you can look it up.

975
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: And but yeah, Funky's great. Have you been to Baru

976
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 2: in l A. It's fermentation.

977
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: I think I haven't and I've been told about it.

978
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a fermentation, is a pickled stuff. I

979
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: can't remember, but it's very good. Yeah. Yeah, so it's amazing.

980
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: It's so good, and I went, but I went. It

981
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: was in a strip mall. It felt like such an

982
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: insider thing. It was in a strip mall on like

983
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: wil Off of will Cox and Santa Monica Boulevard. I

984
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: don't think I happened that I have heard of it,

985
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 2: but now it's downtown. I think I haven't. I feel

986
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: so out of touch with whatever's.

987
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: Happening in La Io.

988
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, which that's okay, it's okay. We don't have to

989
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: be in so hard. No, how do you besides your

990
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: hyperbaric chamber, the occasional meditation, the brick, how do you

991
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: take care of yourself when you're doing six shows a week?

992
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? I try and get good sleep. I work out.

993
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I really don't like working out. It's not

994
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,240
Speaker 1: something that I find pleasurable. But I've never like finished

995
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: the work out and being like, oh God, I wish

996
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: I hadn't done that. Okay, you know, Yeah, so I

997
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: do pilates. Yeahs, I like that work out because it's like,

998
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm fifty and I feel like that's something my body needs.

999
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: And yet and I'm not being crazy, I do do

1000
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: like a Berry's boot camp every once in a while.

1001
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: I've ever done one of those.

1002
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: I've done Berry's boot Camp. That is insane.

1003
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: It's insane, and I really have to like pump the

1004
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: brakes like I can't do the sprinting. It's a lot.

1005
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: The running is because I'm not I've have you ever

1006
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: run a marathon half marathon it's not your money.

1007
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: I don't like running, Yeah, fair.

1008
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: Enough, I'm trying to get back into it. I did

1009
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: run a half marathon. Imagine me and by the way,

1010
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: me asking so that you asked me, well, the question

1011
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: you did.

1012
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: Your eyes definitely said return the question that I'm repressed.

1013
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: Yep, it was. But I just was curious about running

1014
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 2: because some of my friends do run, and so I

1015
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: found I was like in a half marathon, and so

1016
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: I did it. I wouldn't do it again. Really, I

1017
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't actually been trying to start running again, just as

1018
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: like have this be part of your fitness routine, and

1019
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: it just is so hard on my body.

1020
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: Told me that, like literally after you turn thirty five,

1021
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: you just should not be running anymore. Your knees don't

1022
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: want it.

1023
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: Yes, my my hip hurts. I went on a two

1024
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 2: mile run on Friday or Saturday, and I'm like, and

1025
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: I still am, like, oh, I feel it. So it's

1026
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: okay that you hat.

1027
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: I'm always on a city bike though.

1028
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 2: I'm scared.

1029
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are scared. I understand

1030
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,919
Speaker 1: it's intimidating.

1031
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: Do you ride a bike in La ever?

1032
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: I do? I have an actual like roade bike, like

1033
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: a like a one of like you know, like very

1034
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 1: light carbon fiber bikes. My husband is a avid bike rider,

1035
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: and so I would join him. I'm actually more nervous

1036
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: to ride in LA than I am to ride here.

1037
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: Why.

1038
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: I just feel like traffics are more insane in LA.

1039
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean I'd try and stick to bike paths or

1040
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: like biking like in Griffith Park or something where there's

1041
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: actually trails. Yeah, but I feel like in New York

1042
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: it's just so congested, like there's so much happening, like

1043
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: the opportunity for an accident is just less. Yeah, there's

1044
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: so many bike lanes.

1045
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 2: Should I try city bike again?

1046
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: Because I did something happen.

1047
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 2: Something did happen. What happened? But it's not a car door,

1048
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: no card door, which was interesting. I was like riding

1049
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: from my place in Brooklyn or.

1050
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: German, but I just wanted to circle bike. You said

1051
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: you were a germaphobe, and this.

1052
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,479
Speaker 2: Seems but you know what, I saw someone on a

1053
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: city bike on Sunday to a couple in my neighborhood

1054
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: right on like a casual Sunday early ride, and I

1055
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: just my brain went to, like ooh, yucky touching the handle. Yes,

1056
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean I won't do it. I can power through.

1057
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: I can power through and touch the things. And but

1058
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I'm gonna ride the bike to

1059
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: take I had a gift for my friend and I

1060
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: wanted to give it to her. She's in another part

1061
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: of Brooklyn, and I was like, ride the bike. I'll

1062
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: get it. I have a city bike. They'd given SNL

1063
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 2: cast members like a year free subscription or something like that,

1064
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 2: and the year was like coming up. I'm like, and

1065
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: I never used it. And there's like a city bike,

1066
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: is it a port? Get whatever? A docking station, a

1067
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: docking stay quo. We got a docking station right next

1068
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: to my apartment. Sounds like I'm gonna ride the bike.

1069
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: This will be perfect. And I was like, what have

1070
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 2: I done? The whole time? The whole rider apartment, I

1071
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: just was it's it was.

1072
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: So heavy heavy. Have an electric one?

1073
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: No, and how do I know which one? And everyone

1074
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 2: keeps saying that to me. Now they're like, get an

1075
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: electric one, use one of these, But I'm like, how

1076
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: do I know which one?

1077
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, you'll see that if we put

1078
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 1: them side by side, like that's an electric bike. It

1079
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: has like a huge battery on it. I'm like, I

1080
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: guarantee you a different color, and he says electric.

1081
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: I just don't forgot, so we keep saying that it

1082
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 2: was the heaviest ride. I was like, this is not pleasant.

1083
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 2: It was a warm day, kind of like today where

1084
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: it's like, oh it's warming up now, and the.

1085
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: Many you hear it had even like a slight incline

1086
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: on those.

1087
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 2: It's like, how, but who's choosing to ride those?

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00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: By the way exactly? I see people riding them. I

1089
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: was like, are you a monster?

1090
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: To get rid of it?

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00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: Get rid of it. There shouldn't even be an option.

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00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be an option.

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00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, they should all be electric, especially when they're

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00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: not heavy.

1095
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: It was crazy anyway, So then I wrote and then

1096
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Speaker 2: I ubered home.

1097
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: I was like, that was that was a bad experience.

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Speaker 2: It was really bad.

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Speaker 1: I think you should try again on an electric bike.

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Speaker 2: I'll do it today.

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00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: It's nice, be perfect day for it.

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00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I'm going to do it.

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Speaker 1: I ride I used to. I ride my bike to

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Speaker 1: the theater at my theater is up on ninety fourth

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00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: in Park. It's a it's not actually theater it's a

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00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: it's a Brownstone that I'm performing in, and I ride

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Speaker 1: my bike through the park up to the theater and

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00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: it's great.

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00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, that's good. But you do take

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Speaker 2: care of yourself. You're fit, so you're doing the stuff

1111
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 2: that people are supposed to do. I think you're doing great.

1112
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: If no one else tells you, I think you're doing great,

1113
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: you deserve to hear that. Okay, you're doing.

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00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: A great job today.

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00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're doing a great job. Now with your kids,

1116
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 2: are they close to each other? Are they do they vibe?

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00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: Yes, they do. They love each other. Ok My younger

1118
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: one is like obsessed with the older one. Yeah, it's

1119
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's very cute.

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Speaker 2: It's very sweet.

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Speaker 1: I guess my Jessin was telling you the other day

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00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: that Beckett would you know, they take baths together and

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00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: Beckett was the older one was washing his younger brother's

1124
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: back and he had like this foam soap in his hands,

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00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: and he goes and as he was soaping his brother's back,

1126
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: he's like, I want Sully to stay healthy forever.

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00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: So cute, so cute, it's so cute. That's the children.

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Speaker 2: They're smart. They're very very smart. Do you do you

1129
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: guys shield your kids from anything in particular or.

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00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: You know, in fact, no, and I you know, when

1131
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: they're in New York and like we see a lot

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00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: just walking on the street in New York. You know,

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00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: if they have questions about things they've heard or sea,

1134
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: like we just let's talk about it. My older son

1135
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 1: has seen me do Shakespeare, like he's been exposed to that.

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00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: He uh, you know, we obviously don't like have the

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00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: news on for them, like we're not. There's no, I

1138
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: don't want that. I don't want to watch that, but

1139
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, you know, obviously age appropriate things. But you know,

1140
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: if they encounter something, it's like all right, like we're

1141
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: not actively trying to keep them from anything.

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00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want them to feel like they're you

1143
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 2: guys are friends to them?

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00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: It's so interesting because I mean I think about my parents,

1145
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: like I, you know, the love was so apparent, but

1146
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: like I never felt like they were my friends, like

1147
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: they felt like my parents. They felt different, and I,

1148
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's interesting. It's like my kids are

1149
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: reflecting back to me that they have this unconditional love

1150
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: toward us and like they want to be with us forever.

1151
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: And like that they want us to be like their

1152
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: best friend. You know, that's what they want. So I'm

1153
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: just sort of giving them whatever they need. But you know,

1154
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean to answer a question like in a short

1155
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: concise way, I don't think so I don't think I

1156
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: want them to feel like I'm their friend, but like,

1157
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: if that's how they feel like, I also wouldn't discourage

1158
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: against that.

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00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, okay, Jesse, it's time for a segment I

1160
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 2: like to call. That's nice, but what about me? We've

1161
00:53:59,000 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: done a lot of topics.

1162
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: I asked about your running. That's nice, but now we're

1163
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: gonna talk about me.

1164
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna talk about me. Now. Thank you for

1165
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: asking if I ever ran a half marathon. The people

1166
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 2: would never know if you if I didn't set you

1167
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: up for said ask. Okay, I do I love this

1168
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: notion that you're hosting dinner parties? How does one go

1169
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: about doing this? Like, I know it seems rudimentary, Yeah,

1170
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: but like, are how are you curating the room? Because

1171
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have so many, so many kinds of

1172
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: friends from so many walks of life. How are you

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00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: curating the room? How are you deciding what you're serving?

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: Okay. I do try and pull from different friend groups

1175
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 1: so that people can meet with another, but that's tricky

1176
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: because sometimes you know, people don't necessarily mix.

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00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: Well.

1178
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have a good system down, like you know,

1179
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: people all kind of know one another now, and I

1180
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: try and like mix it up so it doesn't feel

1181
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: like it's the same people are always being invited. So

1182
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: like I like to always think about my head, like

1183
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: is there a guest of honor? And then building around them.

1184
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: It's like who would this person enjoy being around? Like

1185
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: making it about them even if they don't know it's

1186
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: about them. Yeah, that's all secret.

1187
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: That's so cool.

1188
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: And then as far as a menu, obviously you need

1189
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: to ask everyone's dietary restrictions, which is so fucking annoying

1190
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: if you don't.

1191
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 2: Take.

1192
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: I do try and like have something in case someone

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00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: you know doesn't need to be like, you know, an

1194
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: optional or at least like a lot of vegetables for

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00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: them to try. But cookbooks are my best friend, you know,

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00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: just picking out things like it's a uh, cookbooks that

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00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: are like vegetable based are great for side dishes. It's

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00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: several that are just like only vegetable cookbooks and you

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Speaker 1: know it's it's a lot about just like preparation and planning,

1200
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: just like and also not overplanning, not not doing too much,

1201
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: doing what you can handle. Three things is enough, and

1202
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: then ask people to to bring, like can you bring

1203
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: a dessert, can bring cocktails? Can bring you know, like

1204
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: sourcing out help is good and people like to bring.

1205
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: Generally people want to.

1206
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: They always ask what they should bring.

1207
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you say nothing, they're like, yeah, they're.

1208
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: Going to bring a wine.

1209
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, and you're going to use it to

1210
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: cook exactly down the line. Do you google bottles of

1211
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:21,919
Speaker 2: wine that people bring over?

1212
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: I did it, and I was this is type A yeah,

1213
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised for like I did this too,

1214
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: but I would google it and then I'll like put

1215
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: a sticker on it with like the price and like

1216
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: so I just know, like, you know, sometimes you're like

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00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: I need to I need to bottle wine to cook with. Yeah,

1218
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 1: and you don't want to open like a seventy nine

1219
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: bottle of wine.

1220
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Speaker 2: Yes. Well, you know it's so funny because I recently

1221
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: was cooking with my boyfriend and I was like, oh,

1222
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: this requires red wine and I have so many bottles

1223
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 2: from people gifting and all the alcohol. So I open

1224
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: up the cabinet and I'm like this one, but I'm like, no,

1225
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 2: but this was a gift and I remember from who yeh.

1226
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: And then he he's the one that got me, Like

1227
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: you don't know how much this thing costs? Is Google

1228
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: and he's like this was seven dollars a yeah, And

1229
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, we can throw it in the yeah.

1230
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: I also like to put who gave it me the

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00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: put that on the sticker too, just like because I

1232
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: don't remember, okay, but I think that's always interesting to

1233
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: I remember someone I brought this.

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00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: Ever been surprised that someone brought such a bottle of wine?

1235
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: That's a cheap bottle it is, I know, yes, yes, yeah,

1236
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: oh oh, And you know it's like I'm just they

1237
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: pulled it from their own cabinet, like they don't know

1238
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: it's been lost. The price has been lost in translation.

1239
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: The number of bottles of wine just getting passed on exactly.

1240
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 2: It's a real thing.

1241
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: Wine and candles.

1242
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Candles, here's the thing. I love candy too, so.

1243
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: Very picky. I don't know this one.

1244
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: It's it's t r V. I don't know how to

1245
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: it's probably a different language, but tr v d O N.

1246
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look it up right now.

1247
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: So a candle was sitting on a table at SNL and.

1248
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: Uh, trv d O N O N.

1249
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: Is this showing up? Is it pulling out for you?

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00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: Okay?

1251
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 2: Those are nice candles, Jesse. Okay, I discovered it because

1252
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: it was sitting on a table at SNL and it's

1253
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: table people like get to take things. But I didn't really.

1254
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 2: I thought it was someone's But I was like, this

1255
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: smells amazing, this is good. And then I went in

1256
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: my office and googled it. This is like my first year,

1257
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: and I was like one hundred dollars candle. And then

1258
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 2: I was like, surely this isn't up for graps, but

1259
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 2: it's what you do, get what you pay for. Do

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00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 2: you have a favorite scent candle?

1261
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: There is Luve has a it's so weird. A tomato scented.

1262
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: Can, the tomato and the tomato hand wash.

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00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very nice.

1264
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: It's nice.

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00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: It is nice.

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00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: It's very Do you like a soap? I do? Yeah?

1267
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: Do you like the xfoliate?

1268
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: I do?

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00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: Is this the most alienating conversation we could be having? No,

1270
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: we can you like this expensive. But also every time

1271
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 2: a guest comes on me being like, so talk to

1272
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 2: me about La versus New York, Like there's not the

1273
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: rest of the country. You told me where you were from,

1274
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 2: and I'm like, forget already. Where it's got to be

1275
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 2: La or New York. Oh yeah, that's right, New Mexico.

1276
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 2: But thank you Jesse for being here. It has been

1277
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: such a joy to talk to you. I really appreciate

1278
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 2: thank you for doing this. Of course, that was my

1279
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: conversation with Jesse Tyler Ferguson. It made me really hungry,

1280
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: and maybe it made you hungry too. Maybe you were

1281
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: eating while listening to this, you lucky bastards. But if

1282
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: you weren't, I bet you're hungry. I'm starving right now.

1283
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 2: But if you want advice from me and my next guest,

1284
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: you can call me, call us and ask us for advice.

1285
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: Whatever's going on in your life. We're here for you.

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01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,120
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Speaker 2: service to you. That sounds good, right, We buy it

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Speaker 2: all right, Thanks guys. Thanks Dad is a production of

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