1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. Hey, 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: what's going on? Everybody? Nick Foles back in the saddle 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Nearritoria alongside my man Bucky Brooks. I love it. I'm 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: just gonna go around and introducing I'm also known as Nicko. Uh. 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Everybody at lewis here with Buck again, DJ out today 6 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: and we've got a fun episode today. We're gonna take 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: a look at the wild Card round matchups on Sunday, 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: which I'll be in the house for here on NFL Network. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: A little game Day highlights actually fun. Yeah, yeah, good, 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: good fun. There a lot of a lot of fun, 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: good fun. Yeah yeah. We'll do some post games, some 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: halftime probably as well. It's all right here in NFL Network. 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: And then we're also gonna be joined by the color 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: voice of the Alabama Crimson Tide as they gets up 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: in the National Championship Game on Monday. John Parker Wilson, 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: former Alabama quarterback, will join us here shortly as well. 17 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: That'll be good time time as we preview Alabama and Clemson. Uh, Buck, 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: you want to get started here with the wild card 19 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: matchup will kick it off in Baltimore. This is the 20 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: second game in three weeks for the Chargers and Ravens, 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: this time in Baltimore. Does that make a difference. I mean, 22 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: I think it makes all the difference in the world 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens. Um playing a home game in 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: front of that crowd, being able to get those guys excited, uh, 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: the fans and everything embracing Lamar Jackson and what he's 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: been able to do to that running game, I think 27 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: it does have an opportunity to give them a significant advantage. 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: Um when I look at this, I mean and and 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: just looking at the numbers, the Baltimore Ravens are averaging 30 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty yards on the ground rushing attempts 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: since Lamar Jackson has taken over. Lamar Jackson is averaging 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: on his own almost eighty rushing yards a game. I mean, 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: we've never seen a quarterback have that kind of impact 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: on the ground game. And yet when you look his 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: passer rating for Ricky quarterbacks was second behind Baker Mayfield. Yeah, 36 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: it's been solid enough and each week they've given him 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: a little more. And so you're the Charges. You saw 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: this offense a couple of weeks ago. You did a 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: decent job. You held them to under I think two 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: h yards something about a hundred and sixth years. So, 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: but you still have to deal with all of the 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: new iterations and variations that they throw at you, uh 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: each week, and it's just tough. It's just tough to 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: deal with it. And you gotta figure out a way 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: to make them uncomfortable. And the only way that you 46 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: really can make them uncomfortable is by making them play 47 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: from behind. But you're throwing into the teeth of their 48 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: number one defense. So do you work against yourself by 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: trying to be aggressive? So a couple of things on 50 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: this one for me. Chargers actually held the Ravens to 51 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: their lowest rushing total of the Lamar Jackson starting era 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: this year. Now, if they can do that again, they'll 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: give themselves a shot. Because if you remember watching that 54 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Week fifteen game, gosh, I kept thinking, well, Ravens have 55 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: the ball the whole time, uh, But somehow the Charges 56 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: were in the game. Antonio Gates doesn't fumble. They might 57 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: win this ball game, you know. So again it will 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: be about turnovers, and I actually feel like the Chargers 59 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: run game might be even more important. They just forty 60 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: one yards against the raven Melvin Gordon had forty one yards. 61 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: It was his first game back from the injury. He's 62 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: now got a couple of weeks under his belt here, 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: maybe he's more healthy. Uh, But the way Philip Rivers 64 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 1: has been playing the last three weeks, three touchdowns, six interceptions. Problem, 65 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: gotta run the ball. Limit the amount of times that 66 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: balls in the air, the limit the amount of times 67 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: that Ravens defense can turn it over and give it 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: back to Lamar. That's how the Chargers win this thing. 69 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: So it's funny coming in. I was listening to serious 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: NFL radio and Anthony Lynn was being interviewed and he 71 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: talked about playing the Ravens, and the one thing that 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: he talked about, he said, the style of play that 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens have, the way they play, they gonna make 74 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: every game be a close game. So you just have 75 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: to know that it's going to be a tight game. 76 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: And he said, what we need to do is to 77 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: start fast to make them uncomfortable by putting them down 78 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: a couple of different scores. And then what was funny. 79 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: I called a buddy who was a defense coordinate in 80 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: the league, and I was like, Hey, what do you 81 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: think about like being aggressive against the Ravens to start out, 82 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: because he said in a way, when you do that, 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: you play into their hands. Because the way that you 84 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 1: can beat the Ravens is you gotta out raven the Ravens, 85 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: meaning you need to make their offense uncomfortable. You need 86 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: to be committed to running the ball so you retain 87 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: possession and make them have to kind of play catch 88 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: up in a different way. But if you come out 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: and thinking you're gonna throw it all over the yard 90 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: against their defense, which is their defense is built to 91 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: defend the past, you're creating an opportunity for them to 92 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 1: get a turnover a short field, something bad to happen, 93 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: and then you look up. It is just like the 94 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: week fifteen game. You're now down ten three thirteen three, 95 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: and you spend the rest of the game chasing points 96 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to being able to play in a standoff. 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: I think if you're the Chargers, you play a little 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: more conservatively early because you feel like you got the 99 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: better quarterbacks. So if you get into the fourth court 100 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: in the game inside, you should feel like Philip Rivers 101 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: can get us over the hump. Don't lose the game 102 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: in the first half, just try and find a way 103 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: to stay close and then win it in the second half. 104 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: What's he had. I think he's had three interceptions in 105 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: the first quarter in the last three weeks. I think 106 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: two of the last three they have been on the 107 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: first possession. That you cannot put yourself in a hole 108 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: against the team that's gonna grind it out and and 109 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: this will be a limited possession game. So just you 110 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: gotta make them count. Yeah, you got, you gotta. You 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: have to make them count. And playing in their place 112 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: with all of those uh goons and stuff that would 113 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: be understands. You don't want to give them anything to 114 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: be excited about early in the game. And then the 115 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: other thing will be um DJ had talked about this 116 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: in the past. The Charges had gotten away with playing 117 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: a lot of undersized bodies on defense, meaning they're playing 118 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: their sub package nickel and dime, putting dbs in and 119 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: linebacker spots, and that is how they play really really 120 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: good defense. The issue when you do that against the 121 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. The Baltimore Ravens line up in tail personnel, 122 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: three tight ends at the three tight ends, and so 123 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: now you have your littles trying to face the big 124 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: and they're coming downhill. Um. In the first game, the 125 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: Charges did a really good job of having a defender 126 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: assigned on Lamar Jackson and he did a good job 127 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: of kind of running them down. They played the option 128 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: really well and that and that is great. You have 129 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: to play man to man, but in playing man to man, 130 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: you're susceptible to big place. So you guys on the 131 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: outside have to be able to hold up. And so 132 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: this game really would come down to the perimeter and 133 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: can the Charges DBS hold up against the scale guys 134 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: for the Ravens, because if if they're playing cover zero 135 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: and really committed to stop in Lamar, if Lamar takes shots, 136 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna be some home run opportunities. There doesn't matter 137 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: of which squad wins those. The X factor is Hunter 138 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Henry absolutely coming back. Who knows, I mean handles really 139 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: you know, played competitively and over a year calendar year, 140 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, so that makes you wonder a little bit. 141 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: And then uh, lastly, Chargers don't lose when they get 142 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: on a plane on the road, save for the game 143 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: here in l A against the Rams, and even the 144 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: home games they played London. Yeah, so they've been. I 145 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: mean they've been they've been good. They're battle tested, they 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: have a great defense. They haven't experienced quarterback. But it's 147 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: been a while, you know, it's been a while since 148 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: they've been able to get on track. Okay, we'll end 149 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: up once that game is in the books, we will 150 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 1: kick off in Chicago, the Bears hosting a playoff games 151 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: the NFC North champs. They are welcoming the defending Super 152 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: Bowl champs, the Philadelphia Eagles. Led by me back into 153 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: both is back, all right, how do you see this one? 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: What do you see your match up to watching this? Man? 155 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: This is a thing Like I just did a thing 156 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: in my notebook where I was reading the quarterbacks. How 157 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: I see the quarterbacks going into the playoffs? And I 158 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: put Nick Foles at number three, behind Drew Brees and 159 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, ahead of Tom Brady. And when I looked 160 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: the last eight games that he has played in the 161 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: simmer in January, he's undefeated, Like he's unbeaten, Like you 162 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: can't He's the highest rated playoff passer in NFL history. 163 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, so we can say what we want, but 164 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: in the postseason, this is when it really works for 165 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: them and looking at what has also happened. Darren Sprowles 166 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: has come back, has given him a matchup option on 167 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: third downs. They've been hitting the back up the backfield. 168 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: The two tight ends that they have um Zach Erkson 169 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: and Dallas got it. They're working them and in all 170 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: Sean Jeoffrey for whatever reason, he and Nick Foles have 171 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: a chemistry in the connection that makes it very tough. Defensively, 172 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: Jim Swartz has done a really good job. This game 173 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: is going to come down to, and I know every 174 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: Bear fan kind of cringes. It's Mitchell Drobiskie. Can the 175 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: young quarterback score enough points to handle whatever the Eagles do? 176 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: And can he make enough plays in the passing game. 177 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: He has terrific athleticism. They've been using his legs. He 178 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: can run around uh their running game with Jordan Howard 179 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: and Tariko and has been solid. But at the end 180 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: of the day, he is going to have to make 181 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: five to six plays in the passing game that creates 182 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: supper ration for the Bears against the Eagles, and we'll 183 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: just have to see if he's able to do it. 184 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good way to break it 185 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: down for Trabinsky, it's gonna come down to five or 186 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: six big throws for him, or maybe even like big runs, 187 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe it's their scrambled right. Um. So 188 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: to me, the perfect stat line for Trabinsky is nineteen 189 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: for about two twenty. I don't even care if he 190 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: throws a touchdown as long as he doesn't throw a pick. 191 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: You can't turn the ball over in this game. In 192 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: this game, which is different for the Bears because the 193 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: Bears inexperience when it comes to the playoffs, playing at 194 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: home that little it's gonna be tough to deal with 195 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: the conditions and Soldier Field best fan bay, one of 196 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: the best fan bases you will find. But the Eagles 197 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: are battle tested. They are coming off the season where 198 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl. They understand the speed of 199 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: the game and the intensity, and so the first quarter 200 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: will be one to watch. Do the Bears continue to 201 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: play fast and aggressive like mcneggie has one, or did 202 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: it kind of ease into the fight The Eagles know 203 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: how the physicality and toughness and urgency kind of picks up. 204 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: Will the Bears be ready for that kind of fight? 205 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: Here's my one matchup to watch in this one we 206 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: broke it down an NFL playbook Wednesday on NFL Network. 207 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: All Sean Jeffrey has come alive since Nick Foles has 208 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: come back into the line up. Week fifteen against the 209 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: Rams was his best game of this season a hundred 210 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: sixty yards. He's had his best his best three game 211 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: stretch of catch percentage, which means catches on targets of 212 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: any three game stretch he's had this season. He is 213 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: a bigger part of the pass game and a more 214 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: effective part of the past game with Nick Foles a quarterback, 215 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: and this is his first game back in Chicago since 216 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: leaving the Bears. So that's that's one to watch for 217 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: me and Ken the Bears secondary match up with him 218 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: because even when he's covered, he's open. He's open. There 219 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: you go. All right, let's look there at our wild 220 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: Card round games on Sunday. Now, time for our conversation 221 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: with the voice of the Alabama Crimson Tie, John Parker. Wilson. 222 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: All right, John Parker is so glad to have you 223 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: here with us. Man. Uh, you know what a great 224 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: career you had from two thousand and five two thousand 225 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: eight as a quarterback for Alabama. Spent two seasons with 226 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Nick Saban as your head coach and now your first 227 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: season as the color voice of the Crimson Tide. How 228 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: cool has this year been for you get to be 229 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: on the call for these games? You know, so far, 230 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: har it's going pretty good. Oh uh, you know, Coach 231 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: Saban was nice enough to let me come back and 232 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: do this after playing for him for two years. So 233 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: take what's I had no idea. I've never called a 234 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: game before this year, but it's been so fun to 235 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: get in there kind of pre game is just like 236 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: going down to play for a game. Get those butterflies 237 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: right before they kicked call. But uh, it's been a 238 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: it's been a good learning experience and trying to get 239 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: better every week, just like playing ball, you know, and 240 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: thinking about that because you do have a unique perspective 241 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: having played for the head coach and now you sit 242 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 1: in the booth and you're able to watch this team 243 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: and kind of watch the evolution of the quarterbacks. How 244 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: much has he changed in terms of the way that 245 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: he manages his offense from the time that you play 246 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: for him to the time that you re entered the 247 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: press box to watch him up top. So it's it's 248 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: been kind of completely night and day. I mean, when 249 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: I was playing, we were still doing seven step drops 250 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: play action to the fullback running two tight end sets. 251 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: There's not even a fullback on scholarship anymore. So it's changed. 252 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: But to be honestly, I think that's one of the 253 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: things that makes coach Saban so special and unique that 254 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: he's not scared to adapt. He's not scared to change, 255 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: especially in offense. Dating back to Lane Kiffin and now 256 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Mike Lockley, what he's been able to do. I mean, 257 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: I wish we had these r p O s like 258 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: they do now back when I was playing. I bet 259 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: you do, you know? And it's kind of I like 260 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: what you what you mentioned there about coach Saban because 261 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: listening to a lot of the things um that he says, 262 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: complacency creates a blatant disregard for doing what's best. So 263 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: even when you find the ultimate success, how do you 264 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: get better at it than next year? How would you 265 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: describe like his pursuit of better of improvement. It's relentless, 266 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: it really is. From the second they won the national 267 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: championship last year to now getting ready for this one. 268 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: It's three sixty five days a year. It's always trying 269 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: to improve. Whatever you're trying to do is trying to 270 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: get better. I think that's been a unified message that 271 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: he's had since he got there and why they're able 272 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: to continue being good from one year to the next 273 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: with new players, with new coordinators. Look, it changes a 274 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: lot in Alabama, but his process has remained the same, 275 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, and and thinking about that process, Uh, the 276 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: process of developing quarterbacks. Alabama obviously has two really good 277 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in Jalen Herston, then you have to u, um, 278 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: we've seen Jalen b the support of backup player. What 279 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: is it about two that has separated him from some 280 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: of the other quarterbacks that have played at Alabama prior 281 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: to his arrival? Uh, you know, I think two is 282 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: a special player. He's a special talent that you don't 283 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: see every year or every other year. He just kind 284 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: of got that in native ability. Came in last year 285 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: in the National Championship game. He saw what he do 286 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: in the second half. I think he's continued to get better. 287 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: His presence is unbelievable. He's got extremely quick release, he's 288 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: deadly accurate. He's got a really good feel for the defense. 289 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: But I think the word you just said was development 290 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: has been the biggest thing that we've seen this year 291 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: with Mike Locksley and dedicated quarterback coach pan Enos. Was 292 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: Jalen when he had to come in the SEC Championship 293 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: game probably didn't make some of those throws last year 294 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: that he did this year. Became in with confidence. You know, 295 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: had a big third down completion early and then some 296 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: completions later in the game, one touchdown pass the tiet. 297 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: His ability to to get better is pretty remarkable, from 298 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: being a two year starter to now being a pretty 299 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: I think good password. What does this say about this 300 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: program and about Jalen Also in particular, while we're on 301 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks here that in this age of you know, 302 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: you're not the starter, I'm out of here, let me 303 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: go find another place to play. Uh, the ability to 304 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: keep too high quality quarterbacks on the roster ready to 305 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: play and obviously play at a high level when called upon. Look, 306 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: it's unbelievable what took place with with Jayalen being twenty 307 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: six and two as a starter, losing his drive in 308 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: the second half of the National Championship game to give 309 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: it up to the most prolific passer in school history. 310 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: But to be able to continue to leadership and have 311 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: the kind of personality character that he does. I mean, 312 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: if you're not doing the right things all year long 313 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: when you're the backup, if you're not getting ready for 314 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: the game and you have to come in at the 315 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of the SEC championship game, you don't get 316 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: it done like he did. So, you know, coach Sabans 317 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: recruit good guys, but that that's a good quarterback for 318 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: him right now, too good high quality guys. You know, 319 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: when you look at this team and having watched them 320 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: and watched him kind of run through SEC competition, you 321 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: watched him in the semifinals, uh to kind of dismantle Oklahoma. 322 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: What would you say the biggest advantage that Alabama enjoys 323 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: over Clempson heading into this matchup. You know, I think 324 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: they're too really match team, really are similar teams of 325 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. You would typically say with 326 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: an Alabama team, it's experience, but Clemson has been there 327 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: just as many times. I think it's the depth of 328 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: Alabama and their playmakers. I mean, they've got five guys 329 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: right now that can go out and catch the ball 330 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: and beat number one receivers and include IRB Smith as 331 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: as a receiver because he can split out and hurt 332 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: you just as bad running routes as it can blocking 333 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: and the dimension of trying. Okay, we're gonna try to 334 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: take it with the pass game. Well then you've got 335 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: Damian Harris and you saw what Josh Jacobs did in 336 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: the playoff game. I mean, it's just just a well 337 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: rounded team. And to beat them, you've got to be 338 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: balanced on offense, defense, and especially defensive line has got 339 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: to get pressure to free up some of those secondary Yeah. 340 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: So I think it's the the weapons on offense that 341 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: really sets his team apart. It certainly seems like to 342 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: me and John Parker, you can certainly speak to this 343 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: the best group of skill players at collectively the last 344 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: decade that Alabama has had. Would you say, yeah, I 345 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: venture to go back further than history, like like I 346 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: should be. But you know, from Jerry, Judy Davote, Henry Ruggs, 347 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: true Freshman, Jalen Waddle, anybody can beat you. Anybody has 348 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: had their game where they're the number one guy two 349 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: spreads the ball around and then they you know, as 350 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: soon as you start trying to figure those out Josh 351 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: Jacob's hitch in the face. So then knowing what Alabama 352 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: has and obviously I'm sure you've you know, watched a 353 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 1: ton of Clemson games this year as well, where do 354 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: you see Clemson trying to take advantage of this of 355 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: this Alabama team, whether it's offense, defense, what what do 356 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: you see is there as a place that they're going 357 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: to try to exploit? I think it's gonna be the 358 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: defensive line has been able to got to get pressure. 359 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: If Alabama has had a weakness this year, uh and 360 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: we can call it a weakness that's relative, but it's 361 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: been where against team like uh montest what Jeffrey Simmons 362 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: at Misissippi State, who can rush up the middle and 363 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: affect the passer with just four guys rushing. So if 364 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: if clemes In is gonna be able to slow down 365 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: about me, it's gonna be after be with their defensive 366 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: lind play for sure, you know, And and flipping it 367 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: and looking at Alabama's defensive line, everyone is buzzing over Williams. 368 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: Win Williams is one of the dominant players. You saw 369 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: him dominate the Oklahoma game. What is it about him 370 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: that kind of push him as the next great Alabama 371 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: Crimson Todd defensive linement that's going to have an impact 372 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: on the National Football League. I don't think there's any 373 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: question he's gonna do that. And it's just like the 374 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: long line of Alabama guys the defensive line, you don't 375 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: know their name because they're Gallon guys like Jonathan Allen 376 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: and the Ron Paynton playing in front of him. So 377 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: he's learned from these guys. And you know, teams have 378 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: tried to double team him with Garden center bringing the 379 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: running back. But his power, I think his motor is 380 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: NonStop and just the strength that he has as a 381 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: red shirt sophomore, I mean, he affects games solely by himself. 382 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: Didn't have a lot of stats this game, but man, 383 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't think if he was getting up the middle 384 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: against Kyler Murray, Gyler has a little more time to 385 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: throw it, and he's elusive. If he was, it was 386 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: number nine two. Just recond have it back there. Quarterback 387 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: to quarter back, what do you see Trevor Lawrence. He's good. 388 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, he he can he can to be a 389 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: fracturing like he is, to be able to feel it 390 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: kind of like two you gotta have good feel, you've 391 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: gotta you've gotta be a player, and that's what he is. 392 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: He's a good passer, he can sit in the pocket. 393 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: He looks great doing it. But he's just a player 394 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: and you've got to go out there and make plays. 395 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, we've seen it now. And 396 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: I think the big part of this is these guys 397 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: are doing in high school now. They're starting seven on 398 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: seven when they're middle school. They're getting these reps that 399 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: typically you know, we were out I was up playing 400 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: baseball or basketball. They're they're getting these reps now when 401 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: they're in high school, so they're coming prepared to play 402 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: in college. You know, if there's one X factor from 403 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: the Alabama side in this game, who would you say 404 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: it could be? You know that that's that's a good question. 405 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it out here. It's gonna 406 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: be the kicker. I think these big games come down 407 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: to turnovers and you've gotta be able to make a 408 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: big kick. I thought it was gonna be in the 409 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: SEC champions Hip game. Luckily, Jalen scampered in for the quarterback, 410 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: drowing a touchdown, but at some point You're gonna have 411 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: to make a big kick, and I think this week 412 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: will be at so John Parker just just thinking of 413 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: this run here since Nick Saban has become the head coach. 414 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: We touched on it briefly there at the top of 415 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: our conversation here, but with a national championship this year, 416 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: he would break the record he currently shares with Bear 417 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: Bryant UH for his seventh. So UM, when you go 418 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: back and look at the body of work and knowing 419 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: you know how he believes successes is not a continuum. 420 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: It's momentary, and it's about your ability to continue uh 421 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: and to thrive in each moment. How would you like 422 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: best describe um like the defining quality of this success, 423 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: of this continued success in this run. You know, I 424 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of things, and the process that 425 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: he has built has stood the test time. I think 426 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: it's relentless, relentless pursuit. It's no matter what's going on, 427 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: he's trying to get better. He's trying to make everybody 428 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: else better. He hires great people around him, but man, 429 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: look what they've done with just his assistant staff of 430 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: elevating everybody around him because he knows it's not just him. 431 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: You canna have a good offensive coordinator. You could have 432 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: Kirby Smart. You're gonna have TODJ. Lupoy. He gets good 433 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: guys around them and it makes them better. Lastly, here 434 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: we'll get you out of here on this one. I 435 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: mean you mentioned you get the nerves as a team 436 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: comes out of the tunnel before the first call and everything. 437 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: But this you're calling the National championship game on the 438 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: radio here for a rabid fan base. I mean like, 439 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: do you have a do you have a call ready? 440 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: Do you have something ready if if you guys are 441 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: able to hoist the crystal? Again, No, I don't look 442 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: Eli old. He's our play by play guy. I've been 443 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: doing for thirty years. So I'm just trying to actuate quarterback, 444 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: react to what's on the field. I don't have anyone 445 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: finders yet, so I guess I got to develop that 446 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: as the years go on. Well, congratulations here in your 447 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: first season as the as the color commentator for the 448 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: Alabama Crimson Tie Radio. We look forward to uh to 449 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: watching the game and and listening to your call and 450 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: a wish all the beout my man. Appreciate you guys. 451 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: Roll Todd alight, that was fun. They're getting to get 452 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: some insight from John Parker Wilson, the voice of the 453 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: Albam Crimson Tide. There. I'm sure he's uh, he's gonna 454 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: enjoy that call, having not got a chance to play 455 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: in a national title game as as a player for SABAN, 456 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: but now kind of getting to watch it with a 457 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: bird's eye view. And we're all obviously gonna be watching 458 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: this game. And I from Afar Bucky have been watching 459 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: the pick standings and you made a concerted effort this 460 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: year to bump yourself up the standings and I don't 461 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: remember started. And okay, so we we you know, we've 462 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: got you at the bottom of the barrel. This is 463 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: a five point game, but I mean, you know, Hunter 464 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: and two wins and that's pretty good, right, It doesn't matter. 465 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: Kitten Sellier tied at a D seventeen and fifty four, 466 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: within striking distance of DJ, who is on top by 467 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 1: a game. So this is technically a five point game 468 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: right in the college pick him, but it doesn't doesn't 469 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: really matter. DJ is picking Alabama. So Kin and Sally, 470 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: you guys are just explain this this. Did you actually 471 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: believe Clemson is gonna win. Are you just picking them? 472 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: They have to pick them, They have to pick in 473 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: order to get a win. Yeah, you have to. It 474 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: was two years ago the same situation. I needed Clemson 475 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: to come through to beat Alabama with the five pointer 476 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: to win the first of our college Pick Him Championships. 477 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: I'm now two time defending champ. I'm trying to go 478 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: for trying to go for in, trying to go for 479 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: the three p And you know what if Sally and 480 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: I have to do a little Nebraska Michigan nineties seven 481 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: co champions you c f last year claimed they were 482 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: a co champion, they didn't win it on the field. 483 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: Sally and I are gonna try to win this one 484 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: on the field. We're gonna go for the Clemson Tigers 485 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: in this one, and look, it should be a really 486 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: good game. These are two of the most talented teams 487 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: in the country, two teams that pretty much never lose 488 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: to anybody not named Alabama or Clemson. So if Clemson wins, 489 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: DJ doesn't win again, and Sally and I end up 490 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: being co chance, which I'll take it at this point. Sadly, 491 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: I went with my heart for the Notre Dame fighting 492 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: Irish over Clemson and the cotton Ball. Had I not 493 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: done that, I could have probably taken Pama and thus 494 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: maybe had a victim. Maybe go Tigers. I have my 495 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: my older brother and his wife is a Clemson grad. 496 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: They'll be up there in Santa Clara watching this game. 497 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: So my family's supporting Clemson for this game. I'll support Clemson. 498 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: So I'm all in, as Dabo says, all in, Go 499 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: Go Tigers. You can buy tickets to the game now 500 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: for like peanuts. Yeah, down thirty bucks for National Championship 501 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: game ticket. They're less money than that Ravens Chargers game 502 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,719 Speaker 1: out and StubHub was a couple of weeks ago. Well 503 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: the reason is you look at that, Well, these fan bases, 504 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: like both of the fan bases that come from the 505 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: Deep South to come all the way out West California. 506 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna all the prices the ticket that's expensive. 507 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: Everything has got the hotel prices up like so, I 508 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know why. You Maybe it's fatigue 509 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: as well for these two. Maybe maybe in here done that. 510 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: Just just to quickly go back, as Sully was mentioning, 511 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: he um uh, he picked Notre Dame to win over Clemson. 512 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: He wasn't the only one I did. Sally didn't pick 513 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah you did right? Uh budget you Okada dinner had 514 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: to steak dinner on that. I was trying, and I 515 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: thought with ten points I would be protected. I was 516 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: like ten points. I was like, they can cover. I 517 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: should have taken Brian Kelly a few more times. I 518 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: got a plan for you, though, Um you just go 519 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: find uh Prime, go find Dion. He might give you 520 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: a deal for Golden Crowd. Oh I know his voice, 521 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: I know, get your deal to take DJ to Golden 522 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: I man, I'm gonna have to double up. Like Carolina 523 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: doesn't play in the end of issues, So I can't. 524 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: I can't squeeze that one out. But I got I gotta. 525 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: I gotta fige out a way to kind of weezel 526 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: out of Okay. So look, it's not gonna put you 527 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: up on the top of standing, but who you got 528 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: in the game. You know. I think Alabama is a 529 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: better position to win this one because I think this 530 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: is a game where the Clemson misses dex Tol Lawrence 531 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: and we'll find out for sure before World I think 532 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: as we go into the weekend, whether he's gonna be 533 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: available or not. Yeah, and and I think like it's 534 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: it's a long shot. But if he's not available, Uh, 535 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: their run defense is drastically different without him. Oklahoma was 536 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: a team that wanted to throw it. They didn't necessarily 537 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: want to run it and kind of grind it. But 538 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: the thing that we know about Obama, they want to 539 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: pound it. They want to kind of pound you. Uh. 540 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: They have three running backs that can all play and 541 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: they can hit it between the town because then without 542 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: the big run stuffer in the middle, I think it 543 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: can be problematic for Clemson. I think this is the 544 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: game where the defense kind of begins to fatigue and 545 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: then on the outside, I don't know if they can 546 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: match it with Alabama scale players. You talked John Parker 547 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: talked about all the playmakers that they have outside having 548 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: four maybe five number one receivers. He is absolutely true. 549 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: We'll see because they can run it, they can throw it. 550 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: The quarterback is special. Tough matchup for Clemson, but I 551 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: am excited to see Trevor Lawrence because if Trevor Lawrence 552 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: can kind of do it against this Alabama team, you 553 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: talk about someone who's I mean, we can't even call 554 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: it draft stop. But here legend would be through the 555 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: route knowing that he has a couple more years before 556 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: no question, I mean two more years. If if he's 557 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: able to win this year, it's it's nuts. But I'm 558 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: with you on that. I'm picking Alabama as well. We'll 559 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 1: run no go wire to wire fifteen and oh with 560 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: a victory. And it to me, it comes down to 561 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: the skill guys as as John Parker mentioned to us 562 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: five deep um and uh, I just I feel like, 563 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, they are as potent as we have seen 564 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: on offense and in the past game, and that makes 565 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: a big difference because you know, even if they need 566 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: to muddy it up a little bit, we know they can. 567 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: They can do it on the ground. But this is 568 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: the their ability in the past game this year separates them. 569 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: So that's why I am going Alabama, which you got Ken. 570 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: How much do you guys think the fact that Clemson 571 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: has a bunch of guys that beat Alabama in the 572 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: title game two years ago factors in? Because I think 573 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of it is when you play a team 574 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: like Alabama, and frankly, when you play a team like Clemson, 575 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: you probably go into that mindset you're hoping to beat them, 576 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: but deep down you think we need every break to 577 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: get done. Clemson, on the other hand, they've been there, 578 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 1: done that. Last year they got crushed. There's no there's 579 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: no way around that. But two years ago in the 580 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: title game they beat Alabama. They move the ball up 581 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: and down the field, they had almost a hundred plays. 582 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: And then the season before that, there's still some guys 583 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: on this team, Christian Wilkins, Hunter, Renfro, guys that played 584 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: as freshman and they nearly beat them. So I think 585 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: the mindset Alabama probably takes the field and ten of 586 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: their games a year they've already won the second ary 587 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: uniforms are on the field. Clemson is not one of 588 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: those games. I think Clemson expects to win this game. 589 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: That's a good point. I don't. I think they're not. 590 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: They're certainly not intimidated. They've been there, done that against 591 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: this team. I mean, now, this this juggernaut version of 592 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: Alabama is a little bit different than the one they 593 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: beat two years ago. Yeah, I mean, I think there's 594 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: certaintly that definitely has something to do with it. Like 595 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: I think you have to get past the mystique or 596 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: the the off factor at Alabama can't create when they're 597 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: on the field, Like just watching them. If you ever 598 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to watch Alabama and Washington come out, 599 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: and Washington come out and they're splendid with all of 600 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: the roll tide folks with toilet paper rolls and all 601 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: that other stuff like kind of doing the deal, it 602 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: can be a lot. And then you look down to 603 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: the other end. They're big, they're imposing. Uh, they're like 604 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: a machine when you see them in warm ups in 605 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: terms of the way they're going through things. But for Clemson, 606 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: and Clemson's old had they've seen this three times, didn't 607 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: know exactly what it looks like, they knew exactly what 608 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: they expect. They have kind of tasted their power in 609 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: terms of like they've tasted their physicality and toughness. So 610 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it's anything that they have to get 611 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: used to. It really comes down to can't Clemson execute 612 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: at a high enough level to knock off Alabama? Because 613 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: Alabama appears to be a team that can give you 614 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: problems not only with their offense but also with their defense. Yeah, yeah, 615 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. That's a good point. A 616 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: couple of good points there by Kent as well, and 617 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: having seen this uh this team and beating them a 618 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: couple of years ago with some of the guys that 619 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: are still there for Clemson. So, uh, look, can't wait 620 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: to watch it Monday night, January seven. I'm going Bama. 621 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm going Bama because the skill guy. Wait to go 622 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: out on? Yeah, I'm going on a limb on this Yeah, 623 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: pretty good team, but the limb. Come on, This is 624 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: not David versus. I'm just I'm trying to go one 625 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: and oh in the in the wait wait wait wait, 626 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: wait to go out on the limb. Uh. That was 627 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: fun though, That was fun. So what else we got here? 628 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: Anything else? Anything else you want to get to you? Good? No, 629 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think that, man. Yeah, I 630 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: think it's crazy. We got a great gundown countdown to 631 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: uh path to the draft, especially middle of March. We're 632 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: coming at you right here an NFL network. So crazy, 633 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: I know, but I know, all right man. Well, as always, 634 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: you can check out all of our Move the Six 635 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: content NFL dot com, Slash Empts Video YouTube dot com, 636 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: Slash NFL Apple podcast. Wherever you get your podcast, download, 637 00:30:50,800 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: subscribe and leave a comment. See you next time you 638 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: are here,