1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: Second hour Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we're going 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 2: to focus in on a battleground state. If you recall, 5 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: we spoke to our friend Sean Parnell Monday about Pennsylvania, 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: the biggest battleground state where he's a long term a 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: long standing native and resident who's run for Congress there 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: and was considering a Senate run at one point. To 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: give us a deep dive on Pennsylvania, let's do Arizona now. 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: We're going to continue to look into these specific battleground 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: states as the election gets closer and poser. It's crazy 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: how fast the time is passing. It's going to be 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: June of the election year before we blink an eye 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: and then we're going to be casting our votes. 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 3: It is flying by. 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Let's look at this situation in Arizona now, and just 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: to let you know, we've reached out to Carry Lakes people. 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: We know Carrie is currently running for Senate there, very 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: important Senate seat against Ruben or Senate race against Ruben Diego, 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 2: and we'll have to see how that shakes out, but 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: Carrie will probably be joining us next week, I think 22 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: to talk about this in some more detail as well 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: as her position to position on it. She's on our 24 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: way to the border currently, so we can also ask 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: her about what she's seeing. The border, as we know, 26 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 2: a total mess. And we'll get into some more of 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: those details momentarily. But here's the situation. Let me just 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: outline play a little of what's happened, and then we 29 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: can dive into the political ramifications together. So the state 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: court in Arizona, Arizona State Supreme Court has upheld the 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: law from eighteen sixty four, so it is a pre 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 2: statehood law that bans abortion in all situations except the 33 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: life of the mother under threat. 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: The law is Arizona chief statehood by the way, in 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: nineteen twelve. Just a little bit of history there. 36 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: This law does not go into effect right away, but 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: essentially with the overturning of Roe and the lack of 38 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: any federal law on this issue, they're saying there's nothing 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: to stop at a pre statehood level, which I suppose 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: means that federal law reigned effectively there. 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: I got to look into this a little bit. 42 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: But at a pre statehood level, you can now enforce 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: this law that is still on the books for the 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: territory of Arizona. It is being sent down to lower 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: courts to look at This was a four to two decision, 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: by the way, for the Arizona Supreme Court, and they're 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: going to be taking a look at this issue. 48 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: So this could be overturned by the justices who are 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 3: now going to look at it. 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: And there also are state legislators who could do something 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 2: about this. They could change the law obviously for the 52 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: state of Arizona, if they choose to do so. 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: But this has kicked up a whole bunch of issues. Clay. 54 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: We know Arizona the battleground state. The official tally Okay, 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 2: I'm just talking official tally eleven thousand votes cost Donald 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: Trump Arizona in twenty twenty so an absolute razor's edge election. 57 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: Things did not work out that we wanted them to 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, because we know that Kerry Lake 59 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: was unsuccessful and you have Hobbes as the governor of 60 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: Karen Hobbs right as the governor of Arizona. So there's 61 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: a concern here that this could galvanize democrats in the 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: state put abortion on the ballot in a way that 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: is not favorable for Republicans, and what is a pretty 64 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: moderate Republican state in a lot of ways. You know, 65 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: there's still a lot of love for John McCain in 66 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: that state, et cetera. How do you see this shaking out? 67 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: Man? 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Is this a concern or will this be dealt with? 69 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I think it's bad news purely from a political perspective. 70 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: I have said, and the data reflects. I think Georgia 71 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: is coming back into the red camp, and I think 72 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Trump will win Georgia my prediction by five or six points. 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: I don't think Georgia is going to be that close. 74 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: There isn't a Senate race on the ballot, there isn't 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: a governor's race on the ballot. There's nothing down ballot 76 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: that is going to get I don't believe democrats energized 77 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Trump is in Atlanta right now. I think the Fanny 78 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: Willis thing has blown up in Democrats' faces there. I 79 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: think Trump is going to win Georgia. I also have 80 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: been expecting that Trump is going to win Arizona, that 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: he's going to flip those two states back, and then 82 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: that would mean that Trump would really only need one 83 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: other state, potentially, depending on what Nebraska does. 84 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: We've been talking about this. 85 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: To get elected president, he'd either need to win Nevada 86 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: if they change the vote back in Nebraska to make 87 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: the whole state go to the winner, or he would 88 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: have to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin. Right now in 89 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: the gambling markets, Biden's favored to win all three of 90 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: those states, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Trump is a favorite 91 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: in Arizona and in Georgia. He's a big favorite in Georgia. 92 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: I look at this and say, they got to get 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: this reconciled, and I wonder whether instead of fixing it 94 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: in the short term, I think that Democrats don't want 95 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,799 Speaker 1: to get it fixed. I think they want to run 96 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: on abortion is basically completely illegal in Arizona. We need 97 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: all of you Arizonas to show up and vote in 98 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: a new ballot referendum to enshrine in some way abortion 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: being legal into the state constitution. 100 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: I think that's what they want to run on. 101 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: I feel like that even the Supreme Court decision, which 102 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: I think was four to two, is part and parcel 103 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: of this. Republicans controlled the legislature, so in my understanding 104 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: is in Arizona that's a bit of a mess to 105 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: try to figure out how to do this. Because Katie 106 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: Hobbs is the governor of Arizona, she's a Democrat. So 107 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: is there going to be a bipartisan goal to in 108 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: some way enshrine law in Arizona that changes things. 109 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 110 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: I think they're going to run the abortion game plan 111 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: in Arizona, and my concern is that that might be 112 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: enough to drag Joe Biden across the finish line if 113 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: he's the nominee. Obviously, he won by eleven thousand votes. 114 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: As you said, we've had all sorts of election irregularities 115 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and issues all throughout Arizona in twenty twenty two. It's 116 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: taken forever just to count the vote, which obviously doesn't 117 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: help in terms of people's faith in the legitimacy of 118 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: the vote counting. And we know in twenty twenty Fox 119 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: News made the call on Arizona, which threw everything into 120 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: an uproar there as well before anybody else did. It 121 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: ended up being very close. I think it's bad news 122 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: for Republicans in a state that is a must win. 123 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any pathway really to the presidency 124 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: that doesn't run through Trump winning Arizona. I think that 125 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: is a must win, just like Georgia's a must win, 126 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: and then there are multiple pathways once you get there. 127 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: But I think it's a must win state, and I 128 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: think this makes it harder to win Arizonas you can 129 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: agree to disagree with me eight three two two to 130 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: two eight A two. If you want to call in 131 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: and react from Arizona, I'm certainly David Axelrod. David Axelrod 132 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: is saying that this alone could cost Trump Arizona depending 133 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: on how it shakes out. This is him play cut eight. 134 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 5: This could not be more of a disaster for the 135 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 5: Republican Party. Yesterday, Donald Trump say, well, it's up to 136 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 5: the people in the states decide. Let the states decide. Well, 137 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 5: here you find what happens when you let the states decide. 138 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 5: So I think what this does is it puts a 139 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 5: battleground state more in the leaning D column than the 140 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 5: leaning R column. Because I think there's going to be 141 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 5: a massive turnout in November for a constitutional amendment in 142 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 5: the state of Arizona, because the voters of Arizona now 143 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 5: have a demonstration of the fragility of abortion rights in 144 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 5: the posts. I think this is an earthquake. Those electoral 145 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 5: votes in Arizona could be the ones that tip this election. 146 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: I think he's overstating it a bit, which is not surprising. 147 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: He's speaking to a Democrat audience. But there's a there's 148 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: like New York Times Siena polling for example, from let 149 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: me see in October. So it's a little older now, 150 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: but fifty nine percent of Arizona in registered voters set 151 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: of abortion should mostly or always be legal. Thirty four 152 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 2: percent said it should mostly or always be illegal. Fox 153 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: News polling, oh from March. So last month, thirty nine 154 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: percent of Arizona voters set abortion would be extremely important 155 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: in deciding their vote for president, thirty two percent saying 156 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: it would be very important. So and voters who supported 157 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: Biden in twenty twenty were nearly twice as likely to 158 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: say the issue would be extremely important fifty one to 159 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: twenty seven percent. Okay, that's not a surprise. That's all 160 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: Washington Post compiling these polls. 161 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 3: Look, you know this is I didn't know. I'll just 162 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: be honest. 163 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: I didn't know that this was a thing that could happen, 164 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: that there was a pre safe that most people did. 165 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: To be fair, I don't. I've never heard I mean, 166 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: I've never heard of this before. 167 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, But I suppose the the removal of the 168 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: federal umbrella of a fake abortion rights that are, you know, 169 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: the fake constitutional right of abortion, has created some ripple 170 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: effects like this that are unforeseen. 171 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's an issue. 172 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a challenge for Kerry 173 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: Lake and for anybody who is hoping Donald Trump wins 174 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: this election in Arizona, just because what is true and 175 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: what will be portrayed are obviously not the same thing. Right, 176 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: This is not going to end abortion in the state 177 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: of Arizona for any length of time. It probably won't 178 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 2: even be enforced. 179 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: But it's a. 180 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: Jolt, a jolt of abortion panic for people who want 181 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: some abortion to be legal in that state, and that 182 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: could be a that could be very difficult for Republicans 183 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: to maneuver around, no doubt, And again, I think it's 184 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: important for you to understand what people are saying. 185 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: You played, David Axelrod, let me hit a couple more 186 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: of these. Here's Joy Reid, who obviously on MSNBC is crazy, 187 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: but her audience laps this up. This is her dream. 188 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: She really wants abortion not to be legal because she 189 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: wants to say it's the Handmaid's Tale, because politically it's 190 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: beneficial to Democrats to make this argument. 191 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: Listen to Cut six. 192 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: You have six members of the Supreme Quota say no, women, 193 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 4: you don't have that right. They've also signaled they're coming 194 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: from birth control. They want that to be illegal. They 195 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 4: think that's an abortivation. They think iud's are human pesticide 196 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: and abortivation. I'm not sure what else they have to 197 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 4: do for Americans to understand the endgame is the Handmaid's Tale. 198 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: Women wake up when a war is being waged upon you. 199 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 4: You are at war, whether you want to be at 200 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: or not. And the Republican Party has openly declared war 201 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: on women. 202 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: Wake up, Okay, they're declaring war on women. This is 203 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: their argument. Listen to CNN Margaret Hoover. There's no way 204 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: now Trump can win in Arizona. Listen to what they're saying. 205 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 6: I have spoken to state electeds in the last hour 206 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 6: Republicans state electeds, and they believe that this will absolutely 207 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 6: flip the legislature, This will absolutely impact the presidential election. 208 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 6: This has Republicans now on their back feet. There is 209 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 6: no way Donald Trump is going to carry the state. 210 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 7: Well Trump has said put it to the states. Well, 211 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 7: put it to the states. That's what you get in Arizona. Well, 212 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 7: how is it going. It's not going to go so 213 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 7: well for him in Arizona. And truly, this is they 214 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 7: said sixty five percent of Arizona's are in favor of this. 215 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 7: I mean, this is the most dracony in law. 216 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 6: And now we have in all the states and all 217 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 6: the books, no exceptions for rape, no exceptions for incests 218 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 6: only in the case of the death of the mother. 219 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 6: I mean this is truly. I mean, this is a 220 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 6: Civil War era, nineteenth century law now on the books 221 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty four. 222 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: So the optics of this are the optics of this 223 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: are challenging. I think that is definitely the case here. 224 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 2: Whatever one thinks about whether this is even the oral 225 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: and ethical position, I'm just saying the political optics of 226 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: bringing back a law from eighteen sixty four and it 227 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 2: being even possible that that's the law of the State 228 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: of Arizona on this issue at a time of such 229 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 2: high contention around it. It's a challenging field. To maneuver 230 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: through now and we'll talk to Kerry Lake about this 231 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: next week. But she came out and said she doesn't 232 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: agree with the Republican majority Supreme Court decision in that 233 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: state of Arizona over this because it's a massive mess 234 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: for her and just to think about it electorally, if 235 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: abortion is on the ballot literally in Arizona, what you 236 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: would need is, because I think you're right, buck Well, 237 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: let's say this thing's going to pass sixty forty in Arizona. 238 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: I think it would. I think it's fifty eight. 239 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: Forty two, sixty forty fifty five to forty five, double 240 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: digit win for this referendum. Whatever they put in place, 241 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: you would need a lot of people to show up 242 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: and vote for this, this referendum who also would then 243 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: vote for Trump as well. What this is going to 244 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: do is gen up turnout in Republican sorry, Democrat circles 245 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: with younger women who are going to come out as 246 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: single issue voters. They don't care about inflation, which we 247 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: need to talk about. They don't care about the border 248 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: anywhere near a crime, they don't care about any of 249 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 1: those issues any wear as much as they do abortion. 250 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: Because the joy. 251 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: Reads of the world are convincing them that this is 252 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: going to be like the Handmaid's Tale. It's a big 253 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: story and we need to make sure we're on top 254 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: of it when we come back. Trump is in Atlanta. 255 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: He just went into a Chick fil A. If you 256 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 1: need a laugh, I think you're going to get a 257 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: laugh from the way that Trump describes Chick fil A. 258 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: Just trust me, it's my favorite fast food restaurant. It's 259 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: probably the fast food restaurant that a lot of you 260 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: favor the best. Trump's sense of humor still firing on 261 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: all cylinders. We will hit you with that when we 262 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: come back. But in the meantime, I want to tell 263 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: you all about our friends at Tunnel to Towers. 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My favorite fast food restaurant 290 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: beyond the shadow of a doubt, Chick fil A, take 291 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: the kids there all the time. 292 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 3: Trump decided in Atlanta, which. 293 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: Is the home location for Chick fil A. As true 294 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: at Kathy, I believe founded it in that rough geographic 295 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: region North Georgia, Atlanta area. 296 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: It is amazing. 297 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: Trump went in bought milkshakes and chicken sandwiches for a 298 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: lot of people, and then this comedic interlude ensued. 299 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 3: Enjoy. This has been a great, great American franchise too. 300 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 8: It is. 301 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: It's a great franchise. The owner is a great man 302 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 3: who's a member of one of my clubs. 303 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 5: That he's fantastic. And yeah, they do very well. 304 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: That's Love's on Sunday. The Lord's chicken. That's a large chicken. 305 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: You're right, it's good chicken too. 306 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: The Lord's Chicken. 307 00:15:59,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 5: Me. 308 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that Chick fil A will run with 309 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: that as a branding, but they are closed on Sunday. 310 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 3: Their chicken sandwich is good. 311 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: If God had to pick a favorite chicken sandwich, I 312 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: think he would pick Chick fil A in my always 313 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: humble opinion. So this Trump saying it's the Ward's chicken 314 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: is is very very funny. I also got to admit something. Yes, 315 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: I've never had a Chick fil a sandwich? How do 316 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: you not involve yourself in things that on? 317 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: Hold on, just just hold your horses there, mister Clay, 318 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: because I I found out that I'd see the disease 319 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: before Chick fil A. You know, I'm just I'm sorry. 320 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: So and it's very glutenous, unfortunately a lot of gluten. 321 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: But but the French fries, the waffle fries are gluten free, 322 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 2: and the little chicken nuggets that are grilled are quite tasty. 323 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: So I've been to Chick fil A. You can't eat 324 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: a chicken. I can't eat the chicken sandwich, you know. So, yeah, 325 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: it is. It is phenomenal. I do think this is inbmatic. 326 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: Trump is at his best when he does these kind 327 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: of unscheduled drop ins. I think he did it in 328 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: East Palestine if I remember, he went to just a 329 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: Dairy Queen, if I remember correctly, and ordered blizzards and 330 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: kind of just interacted with everybody inside of the restaurant. 331 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: I think this is when he's at his best. I 332 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: also think it's frankly something that Biden really can't do 333 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: because there's too many moving parts. There's too many things 334 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: going on, like inevitably there's some sort of gaff or 335 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: he doesn't handle it well. I think the unscripted Trump 336 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: is often the best version of Trump. 337 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. 338 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: And and it's one of the things that is among 339 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: his I think political secret weapons in the arsenals, not 340 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: really a secret actually it's just a weapon in the 341 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: arsenal that he does well with people on the fly. 342 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: And and and has very memorable lines. Chick fil a 343 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: French fries, the best fries. You know, he's just he's always. 344 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 2: I always remember when he got us, uh milkshakes was 345 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 2: so oh yeah nice. They have great moat shakes of 346 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: mar A Laga. They were quite tasty. 347 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: So my friends. 348 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: Civil War is the name of a new movie coming 349 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: to theaters in a couple of days on Friday. It's 350 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: a compelling, edge of your seat epic thriller from visionary 351 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: filmmaker Alex Garland. For those who have binge watched The 352 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: Last of Us, You're really going to enjoy this film. 353 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 2: You're gonna want to see it in theaters, though it's 354 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: made to be enjoyed on the big screen. 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Democrats view 370 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: this as an opening, an opportunity to start trending Arizona 371 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: blue or blue or in their direction for this election. 372 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: We have Donald Trump was just speaking to a reporter 373 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 2: about this. 374 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: This just happened, so it's breaking news. We want to 375 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: bring this to you. 376 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 2: Play it, Arizona, go to Bard and Arizona go. 377 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, they did, and that'll be straight down and as 378 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 5: you know, he's talking about the states sights, that'll be 379 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 5: straight and I'm sure that the governor and everybody else 380 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 5: is going to bring it back into recent. 381 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 8: And that would be taking care right. 382 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 3: Think, what do you think aboutfore him is probably maybe 383 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: gonna changerous. She is on the will of the people. 384 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 3: That is what I mean said, agains the prefect system. 385 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: The states are putting out what they want. It's the 386 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: will of the people. 387 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 5: So Florida's probably going to change. Arizona's going to definitely change. 388 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: Everybody wants that to happen, and you're getting the will 389 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: of the beef. 390 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: It's been pretty amazing when you. 391 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: Think so Clay He's saying it's obviously too much for 392 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 2: him what's going on in Arizona. 393 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: But it is left to the states to decide. What 394 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 3: do you make of it? 395 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't think that so first of all, I think 396 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: the states should decide. I don't think there's an incentive 397 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: for Democrats to decide this between now and the election. 398 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: If you're Katie Hobbes or your Reuben Gago, who is 399 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: going to be the representative for the Democrat Party running 400 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: against Kerry Lake, why would you solve this issue before 401 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: the referendum that can go on the ballot. I agree 402 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: that it actually should be resolved, and that in the meantime, 403 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: the court has stayed its ruling into May, so they 404 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: are theoretically not applying it yet. But purely from a 405 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,479 Speaker 1: political perspective, if you are Joe Biden, if you are 406 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: Reuben Gego, both of whom are going to be on 407 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: the ballot in Arizona, do you want to resolve. 408 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 3: This issue or do you want to claim. 409 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: That it's a huge issue that demands that Arizona voters 410 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: come out and vote to change. I don't think politically 411 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: they're going to change it at all. 412 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 3: Now. 413 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: If Carrie Lake had won this as interesting right, if 414 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: Carrie Lake were governor right now, I think it would 415 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: get fixed. I think they would resolve it in some 416 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: way between now and twenty twenty four. But you have 417 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: a Democrat governor who would have to sign anything that 418 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: we're passed by a Republican legislature. I'm open to anybody 419 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: in Arizona who can argue against why this will not 420 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: be an issue. I think it's going to be a 421 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: huge issue, and I think they'll leave it open and 422 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: put a referenced them on the ballot because they think 423 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: it'll drive up Democrat turnout and make it more likely 424 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: that Diego wins a six year term in the Senate 425 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: and that Biden wins Arizona again, which would effectively close 426 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: the door on Trump being able to win the presidency. 427 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: And if you look at Arizona as something of a 428 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 2: microcosm or an indicator of the general election, what you 429 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: see is Biden is effectively irrelevant, right, And this is 430 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 2: what I've been saying all along, that they're voting for 431 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 2: a brand, they're voting for a system, meeting Democrats who 432 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: will go along with this stuff. And it's really not 433 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: about whether you know, Joe Biden has some great idea 434 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: for abortion or anything else. It's just Joe Biden is 435 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 2: not Trump and not the Republican Party. And I think 436 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 2: that in a place like Arizona that may be a challenge. 437 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: They may have a challenge on their hands trying to 438 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: overcome some of these some of these issues like we're 439 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: seeing right now with specifically abortion, but also and I 440 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: wonder the protection of democracy stuff will work out in 441 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: Arizona given all the talk about the stolen election, there 442 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: and all that stuff too, So Arizona's going to be 443 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: fiercely contested. 444 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think again, if you win Arizona, the pathway 445 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: to Donald Trump winning the presidency is narrowed substantially. I 446 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: think any pathway to Trump winning requires Georgia and Arizona 447 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: at a minimum flipping back and then you can look 448 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: at Nevada, you can look at Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and say, Okay, 449 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: which of these states can we win because any one 450 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: of those, if you could get the vote back in Omaha, 451 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: would guarantee Trump the presidency. So but you have to 452 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: win back Georgia and Arizona. And I think the odds 453 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: of Arizona took a big hit here if this is 454 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: not resolved before the midterm. And again, I'm open to 455 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: hearing from Arizona's why I'm wrong, But I think this 456 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: is a calamity. And again this goes to I don't 457 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: think Democrats actually want to fix this. I think they 458 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: want to run on it. And that's a difference, right. 459 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: They want this to be an issue that they are 460 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: able to exploit rather than to fix it in the 461 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: short term. 462 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, absolutely, And this is the way they feel 463 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 2: about this issue. 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This is from Jackie Kotta Katowitz, whose name 496 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: I probably just totally messed up, but I do think 497 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: it's super interesting. Gasoline price and gas of forty seven 498 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: point eight percent, groceries up over twenty one percent, eating 499 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: out at a restaurant up over twenty one percent, bathing 500 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: baby food up over thirty percent, pet food up twenty 501 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: three point seven percent, rent up twenty one percent, electricity 502 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: twenty eight percent, natural gas twenty seven percent. Use cars 503 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: twenty one percent, airfare thirty three percent, public transportation twenty 504 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: two percent. Real average weekly earnings down three point nine percent. 505 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: So if all of you out there in the wake 506 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: of inflation coming out hotter than expected today, Buck three 507 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: and a half percent, it hasn't gone away. It has 508 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: become it feels like embedded in many respects. Stock market 509 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: down over five hundred points today and nearly six hundred 510 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: points as we're speaking right now. SNP five hundred down 511 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: one point three percent on the day. Why is all 512 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: of this happening? Because they've been talking about lowering interest 513 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: rates and that doesn't feel like it's going to happen. 514 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: And that means all of your mortgages. 515 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: That means if you were thinking about moving, maybe you 516 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: got to two and a half or three percent mortgage, 517 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: but your kids are getting older and you want to 518 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: get into a better school district, or maybe your kids 519 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: are full grown and you want to move out into 520 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: a different house, into a different neighborhood. A lot of 521 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: people now held hostage in many ways by the golden 522 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: handcuffs of a low mortgage rate. And it does not appear, unfortunately, Buck, 523 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: that any of these numbers are on credit card debt 524 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,879 Speaker 1: on student loans, that any of them are going to 525 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: come down anytime soon, because inflation is still running too hot, 526 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: hotter than anybody expected. 527 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 2: I am excited to see some of these VIP emails 528 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: coming in, by the way, addressing every topic that we've 529 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 2: hit in this last hour, and one of them is Carol, 530 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: who is telling me something very important. I did not 531 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: know this. Carol writes, my daughter has Celiac. Chick fil 532 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: A has gluten free buns you can order with a 533 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: grilled chicken breast. 534 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: Wow out. Yeah yeah, so technically you can have the experience. 535 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 3: I did not know. Is that? Is that right? I 536 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: always I've always. 537 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 2: Been looking for the fabled gluten free bun fast food 538 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: restaurant I go to. I can't in anything in McDonald's. Basically, 539 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: the French fries have wheat. 540 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: Believe it or not. 541 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: They use some kind of a wheat based I don't know, 542 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: something or other when they're coating those fries, which is 543 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. It makes me upset about 544 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: McDonald's French fries because otherwise they're delicious. Not very good 545 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,959 Speaker 2: for you, though. So I learned something new about Chick 546 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: fil A, which makes me love it even more. And 547 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: then we get Linda writes it, Hey, Clay and Buck, 548 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: these are all VIPs. 549 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: By the way, Hey clan Buck. 550 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: My gut tells me that Republicans in the Arizona State 551 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: Legislature are trying to sabotage Trump with this. Maybe some 552 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: from the John mccaintcamp. What other reasonable expectation would there be, Linda, 553 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not a conspiracy. 554 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's just unfortunate. 555 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: I don't know that this is an own goal by 556 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 2: Republicans in the legislature. I mean, the judges looking at this, 557 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: I can't get into their minds. 558 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: But I didn't. I didn't. 559 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: No one was even thinking about this until today. Really, 560 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: it was not a nationwide story until this broke this way. 561 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: A couple of different interesting ideas from Arizona. Jeff writes 562 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: in Arizona legislature needs to put up its own compromise 563 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: ballot measure that makes abortion legal but at a certain 564 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: weak maximum. Then there's an alternative out there. That's an idea. 565 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: Linda says, you just read Linda. Richard says, why can't 566 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: the Republican legislature throw it back to the Democrats by 567 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: passing a law and then making a big stink when 568 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: Themocrat governor Delot delay signing it into law. 569 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: It's an interesting question. 570 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't know to what extent the Republican legislature of 571 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Arizona has the ability, willingness, or interest, frankly, of waiting 572 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: into the abortion battle. We'll see, because if they did 573 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: pass a bill and send it to Katie Hobbs to 574 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: potentially sign, to change the law and take this eighteen 575 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: sixty four law off the ballots, maybe that maybe that 576 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: would create some new dynamic and put pressure on her again. 577 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they want to change anything. I think 578 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: they're fine saying look at what Republicans did. 579 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: This is a disaster. We need. 580 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: The only way to fix this is with voting in November. 581 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: I think they want that as their sales pitch. 582 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 2: We've got a bunch of callers. Also, lighten us up 583 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: here Hunter in Texas, what have you got for us? 584 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 8: Okay, listen, guys. Trump has to come out as pro 585 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 8: choice to win this next election or they will use 586 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 8: that issue to beat him over the head in the general. 587 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if a million illegals rush the border. 588 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if gas is five dollars a gallon. 589 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 8: It doesn't matter if World War three starts, None of 590 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 8: that will matter. If the Democrats can use abortion and 591 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 8: convince everybody that Trump is a pro abortion president. What 592 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 8: he needs to do. He needs to tell everybody that 593 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 8: if Congress presents him a bill that federally bans abortion, 594 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 8: he will veto it. If Congress presents him a bill 595 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 8: that federally protects abortion up to sixteen weeks, he will 596 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 8: sign it. He cannot let the Left use this singular 597 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 8: issue to destroy his entire campaign. And that's the long 598 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 8: and short. 599 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 3: All right, hunter, thank you. 600 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: I mean, if he started out saying, if Trump doesn't 601 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: come out as pro choice, he'll lose the if Trump 602 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: kind of came out, if Donald Trump says the words 603 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: I am pro choice, the election is lost. 604 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: That is, I mean, there's no way, there's no way 605 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 3: you're going to. 606 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: Win as a Republican running and saying that you are 607 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 2: a pro choice president. That's that's an absolute deal breaker. 608 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: You will have many many conservative Christians, Evangelicals, good down 609 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 2: the list. We're just gonna be like, well now now 610 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: there really is no point for that. They're gonna say, 611 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna vote. I think that the state's 612 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: issue that he's taken allows him to take the legal ground, 613 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: which I think is on solid legal ground based on 614 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: what the Supreme Court has held that I mean, part 615 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: of the problem here Clay is Wicked v. Philburn has 616 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 2: created this world going back to that old Supreme Court 617 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: decision Wicked v. Philburn, where a man couldn't sell wheat 618 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: in his own state because selling wheat in your own 619 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: state affects the price of wheat across state line, effectively 620 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: created an endless, many headed hydra out of DC where 621 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: they can just decide that's federal. This is how you 622 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: get the Violence Against Women Act. Violence against women is 623 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 2: not an issue of constitutionality. It's a state police issue 624 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: and it's illegal in all fifty states. But they were saying, well, 625 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 2: it affected interstate commerce. Interstate commerce can be used to 626 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: justify almost anything that's an overreach by the federal government. 627 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 2: Abortion is not a federal issue. That's this is what 628 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: we've been arguing for decades. It's not a federal issue. 629 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: But I don't think the president can come out and say, Rather, 630 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: President Trump can come out and say I'm a pro 631 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 2: choice president and expect to have any hope of winning 632 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: an election where he needs conservatives to vote for. 633 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: I do think that Democrats don't want this issue resolved. 634 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: They want to be able to run this on the 635 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: ballot in Arizona. They want to be able to run 636 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: it on the ballot in Nevada. I think Tunor Dixon 637 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: we should have her back on They tested this. 638 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two. 639 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer was and I think is an objectively awful governor. 640 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: She failed in everything COVID related. 641 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: But they got abortion on the ballot in twenty twenty two, 642 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: and they basically made it a single issue election. Just 643 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: think about it strategically. If you're a disaster on the border, 644 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: if you're a disaster on inflation, if you're a disaster 645 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: on keeping us out of effectively World War in Europe 646 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: and the Middle East, if you're a disaster on crime, 647 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: all of these things are true for Biden if your ability. 648 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 2: To he's not considers on crime. Just to be fair, 649 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 2: he was slick enough not to go along with defund 650 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 2: I mean, the. 651 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: Data is actually disastrous for him on crime, like the 652 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: murder rates have gone up, the carjackings, violent crime like 653 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: the data then, but you're right, he was slick enough 654 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: not to sign on to defund the police. And then 655 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: you also toss in that that you are not really able. 656 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: To make the Jan six argument. 657 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: I don't think it's connecting with voters because you're trying 658 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: to put your chief political rival in prison for the 659 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: rest of his life. I think it's hard to argue 660 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: that you're a big democracy guy for independence. 661 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: What he got left abortion. 662 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: They are going to try to make the entire twenty 663 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: twenty four election a referendum on abortion. It ties directly 664 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: in with their base, which is young, single women. It 665 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: terrifies them. You heard Joy Reid saying it's a handmaid's tale. 666 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 1: And then you have courts that are saying, hey, this 667 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty four law that only allows abortion in the 668 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: event of the threat of death of a mother is 669 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: going to be the law in a swing state. 670 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 3: They don't want to fix it. They want that to. 671 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: Be what they're running against, and they're going to have 672 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,720 Speaker 1: all their allies in the media selling that. So Biden 673 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: can be a failure on everything, but he's going to 674 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: go all in on abortion. 675 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: There's now I mean, we've been expecting this, certainly, but. 676 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: The eighteen sixty four, like the self inflicted wounds I 677 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: think by Republicans. 678 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: Well, but that's the that's judges. I mean, this isn't 679 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 2: like a Republican legislative action. 680 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: I mean they're resurrectory, but it's all it's all Republicans. 681 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: I think six justices are all Republicans and voted for two. 682 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: I haven't done the full dive on this case. It 683 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: doesn't look it doesn't even go into effect. The lower 684 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: courts get to now look at it as well. In Arizona, 685 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: we'll see. It's it's all that do you a nuances. 686 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: That's a tough that's a tough nuanced argument to make 687 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: when unfortunately it's April. It's not This would be a 688 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: bigger deal if it were late October. 689 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: It's April. There's a lot of time here for these 690 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: things to figure out. I mean, the part of the 691 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 2: issue is Clay, it's this stuff's never going to be resolved. 692 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 3: There's no resolve. 693 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: Let's say Lindsey Graham was right, and let's say somehow 694 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: Democrats went along with a fifteen week which they absolutely 695 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 2: would never do in a million years, and no one 696 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 2: thinks they would. 697 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 3: Let's say you've got the fifteen week ban. 698 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 2: Do you know what Nay ROWL and Pro Choice America 699 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: and Planned Parento, do you know what they start doing 700 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 2: raising lots of money on this needs to be eliminated, 701 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: this fifteen like this never really. 702 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, this is all he's got, and when 703 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: you only got one option, you're gonna go balls to 704 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: the wall on it as hard as you can. 705 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: And I think that's what he's doing.