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Speaker 1: It's so many people in the music industry complaining about

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Speaker 1: who's the person that came behind you? Who did you train?

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Speaker 1: Who did you mentor who did you teach? Who did

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Speaker 1: right way. I got people to studios, thirty, we got engineers,

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Speaker 1: there's twenty one. We trying to move it forward and

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Speaker 1: not leave a big gap. Yeah. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be sitting there and it's still about me in six

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Speaker 2: Everybody. Welcome to the episode of butter Nomics. I'm your host,

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Speaker 2: Brandon Butler, founder the CEO Buttery Tal and today we

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Speaker 2: got somebody special in the building. Man, Like you know

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Speaker 2: there there are some places in Atlanta that they're not

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Speaker 2: just legendaries, they're magical. And if you grow up in Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm about. You know about this place.

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Speaker 2: I'm a I'm about the name.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: There's a good chance to just damn near. Any of

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Speaker 2: your favorite artists and any your favorite songs have come

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Speaker 2: through this place, have come out of this place. And

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Speaker 2: today we're gonna get into it. Man, we got the

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Speaker 2: one and only mister Kurs Daniel, the third of Patchworks Studios.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: How you doing this morning, man?

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm doing great. I'm smiling.

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Speaker 2: Look at you. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's very rare that stuff stops enough so you can

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Speaker 1: sit down and hear stuff like that. I always hear

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Speaker 1: people going on shows and they always talk about that.

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Speaker 1: It was a good intro, and I'm excited. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you if you know that much and you about

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Speaker 1: to tell these stories, I'm here for it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, man, Look I appreciate you pulling up. Man, So

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Speaker 2: this is what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, Patchwork is definitely I don't know y'all.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all have historic plaque. I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying we need to get like historic plaque or something

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Speaker 2: most of the classics, especially from Atlanta just all over

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Speaker 2: the place have come out of that that studio over

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Speaker 2: the years, man, and y'all have done some amazing stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, it's not just legendaries magical, but what

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Speaker 2: I did, so what I do with all my guests, Man,

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Speaker 2: I love this. People say, you know, tell me about yourself,

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Speaker 2: give me some background doing a little different over here.

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Speaker 2: You know, we got we got a little tech infused

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Speaker 2: than what we do. We mix it up so well

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Speaker 2: that I went on chat cheapt oh lord, and I said,

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Speaker 2: Chat GPT, write me a quick bio and introduction of

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Speaker 2: mister Curtis Daye the Third. And this is what it

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Speaker 2: came back and says, I'm gonna tell you what chat

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Speaker 2: is saying about you.

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Speaker 1: You tell me talking about the studio or me? You okay,

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Speaker 1: I've never even googled myself. Man, we go, it talks

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Speaker 1: about this a little bit, and you tell me it's

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Speaker 1: the right person. It's the right person. I double checked it,

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Speaker 1: so we got me say this real quick. So one

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Speaker 1: probably for like fourteen years, and I never knew that

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Speaker 1: people was reviewing me, and so I was considered whatever

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Speaker 1: clicked man, like fifty reviews of people saying nice stuff

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Speaker 1: about me, and I never knew that. So I'm interested

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Speaker 1: I want to hear it.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, that just shows that you do

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Speaker 2: good work. You do good business. If you're doing good working,

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Speaker 2: you don't even know what people saying good stuff about you.

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Speaker 2: You know, fulks to be nervous about the bad stuff

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Speaker 2: like you, like I ain't got nothing to worry about.

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Speaker 2: But when you pull it up, you got all these

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Speaker 2: it says. This says mister Curtis Day the third is

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Speaker 2: recorded and mixed music for out artists like outcasts, Ti,

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Speaker 2: g Z, Beyonce and hundreds more, earning more than two

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Speaker 2: a small studio space in nineteen ninety five is going

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Speaker 2: Beyond the booth, Curtis also leads I Do Music, a

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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that, that's on point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe in helping people. Man,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Look, there's there's there's some places that again

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you like you may be thinking like where

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Speaker 1: I mean for us, I tell people, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: What do you remember most about that time back in

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Speaker 1: Well, the first thing that I noticed, or that I

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Speaker 1: I would never hand the flyer out or a business

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Speaker 1: For thirty years we still haven't done an ad or commercial.

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Speaker 1: We just did direct marketing to the labels producers and

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Speaker 1: It was knowing who they weren't, so I didn't waste

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Speaker 1: You want to go where everybody knows your name right

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Speaker 1: about us? What made you come here? Hey man? Was

433
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 1: it easy to book studio time? How was your engineer?

434
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 1: Did we start on time? Or whatever? So I'm like you.

435
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 1: I think certain people are scared to ask certain questions

436
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 1: because they don't really want to know the truth. But

437
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,359
Speaker 1: I'll be calling people and trying. I'd be like, that's cool,

438
00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,520
Speaker 1: but tell me what we did wrong or what we

439
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: can do better, and they'd be like, nah, it was great.

440
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,399
Speaker 1: You know. So when you said that, that resonated that.

441
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 1: Always say that an important question to ask yourself. Do

442
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,479
Speaker 1: you matter? And you know if you matter that if

443
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: you disappeared with people care, let anybody miss you. And

444
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 1: I feel like if we did go away, we would

445
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: be missed. You know.

446
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 2: I remember when we kind of first started buttering. I mean,

447
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 2: the platform has grown a lot, but I think maybe

448
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: we had you know, I don't know, three five hundred

449
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 2: followers or something like that. And I actually put out

450
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,239
Speaker 2: a post one time and was like, yo, like we

451
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 2: wanted we want to we want to know why do

452
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,200
Speaker 2: y'all like butter why are you following? So I fill

453
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: out this form. ILL link to a form and I

454
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 2: called you and I got maybe I don't know, fifty

455
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 2: people to fill it out and I called I went

456
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,719
Speaker 2: into an office and I called them and they were

457
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 2: like I was like, yeah, this is Brandon from Butter

458
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: atl They were like, what, Like, you really called me.

459
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,200
Speaker 2: I said, well, you filled the form out, you put

460
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 2: your phone number in it, like yeah, like how did

461
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 2: you find the platform? What made you follow us? What

462
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: made you sport? And again, because you don't know, And

463
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, right, like actually taking a moment

464
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 2: to just get some of that information, just hearing it

465
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: from people and really understand it, because that's the best way, honestly,

466
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 2: just to get information, to actually have those conversations and

467
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: talk to people.

468
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 1: And you would only do that if you care, right,

469
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like one of the underlying things

470
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 1: of the successful businesses. Do you care? Like I actually

471
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 1: care about our customers and our clients, and I actually

472
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: think that we care about their music more than they do,

473
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: because sometimes it's just good enough for them and they

474
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: get the minimum, but we there to make sure that

475
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: it's done right. And you know, one of the biggest

476
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: things that I like is here we thirty years in,

477
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: but those records that we did twenty five years ago,

478
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: they're still performing them and they sound excellent, which means

479
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 1: that our attention to details stood the test of time.

480
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we're older and we might go back and

481
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: listen to the Aisley brothers or some Michael Jackson and

482
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: be like, man, these records sounding amazing back in the day,

483
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: but now we're we're that place that's putting them records out.

484
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: And like when you speak on a historic space, I

485
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: did the people. James Brown manager called me and he

486
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: told me that they had made that his studio and

487
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: Columbus or wherever we're from, like a historic place. So

488
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: he gave me the information to get one of them

489
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,360
Speaker 1: historical markers put outside the studio. But it's a lot

490
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: of it and I hadn't got around to it. But yeah,

491
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: I think it's important that we do need to do

492
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: that at some point. Yeah, I mean we we haven't.

493
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: At our thirties, we will get our first proclamation, so

494
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: they're going to do one from Fulton County in for

495
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta. But at thirty years in, we

496
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 1: hadn't got any of that stuff yet. And it don't

497
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: bothered me.

498
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Speaker 2: Well, y'all been busy doing the work.

499
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

500
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 2: A lot of times you look up and you realize

501
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: it and you're like, you know, I don't mind getting

502
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 2: a little little love, little shout out.

503
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: Sometimes I felt that when you did the intro, I

504
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: was like, man, I don't mind getting a little love

505
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: every once in a while. Yeah, you're right, man.

506
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: Y'all y'all have y'all have grown up alongside a lot

507
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: of amazing artists you know from again from from g Z,

508
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: the Ludicrous TI, and like many more, Like what are

509
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: you think helped the studio and patchwork grow alongside those

510
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: artists and not those artists necessarily outgrow Patchworks.

511
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: I think, just like what we was talking about before

512
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: we started rolling, as we invested in the company, any

513
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 1: money that we made, we upgraded the gear, we upgraded

514
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: the technology, and we stayed abreast on the cutting edge

515
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: stuff like that or whatever. So you know, we we were.

516
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: I look at studios in three ranges, like a home range,

517
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: a mid range, and a world class facility. In the

518
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: first room that we ran was kind of like a

519
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 1: mid range facility, and I felt like we was getting

520
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: our lunch eight on both ends. I felt like we

521
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 1: was getting ate up by the home range studios and

522
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: the big ones. I felt like people were doing as

523
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: much as they could at home, and then they would

524
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 1: skip over the middle and go over here. So I

525
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: had told Bob at the time that we got to

526
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 1: get out of the middle, and it's kind of like

527
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: the Bible says, the worst place to be is Luke

528
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: warn either be all the way out or all the

529
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: way in. And so he made the investment, you know

530
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: what I mean, And he believed in what we were doing,

531
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: and I think it changed what was going on around

532
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: here because prior to us making that investment into that

533
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: world class facility, if I was just looking at the

534
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: credits on some of these earlier albums, they were in

535
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: New York and LA or Miami. They had to go

536
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: there to mix these records and master them. And it

537
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: wasn't until we kind of got to stay here and

538
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: these type of engineers that look like us, so like

539
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: you know, the other people will be like eight o

540
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: eight is distorted. You're like, nah, that sound fun, that's

541
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: that trap eight o eight or whatever. So bringing it home,

542
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: I think they'd always tell people, if we ever laid

543
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: it out, you should do BP and AP, which means

544
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: before patchwork and after patchwork, and see how it changed

545
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: the sound. It's gonna line up. It'll line up right

546
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: on top of it when things start changing around here.

547
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And I don't want people to think that.

548
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously a lot of people are gonna associate,

549
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: you know, patchwork with again like rapping, hip hop and

550
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: a lot of iconic stuff. But y'all do a lot

551
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: of stuff, man, Like I mean when you were telling

552
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 2: me about you were corder a violin album for Minister

553
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: Lewis Fairkhn. Like, just give people maybe a little bit

554
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: more idea of the scale and scope of all of

555
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 2: the stuff that you all do there from like a

556
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: music standpoll, because again, it's not just yeah.

557
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: We've done staying, We've done Annie Lennox, We've done share,

558
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: We've done one direction, We've done justin Timberlake. We do

559
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: a lot of different genres. We've done some country stuff

560
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: as well. But as far as what you're talking about, yeah,

561
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: we the first ten years I was focused on becoming

562
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: a brand within the music industry, and after the tenth year,

563
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to focus on more being

564
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: like a household name, and I felt like the way

565
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: to do that was to bring people into the studio,

566
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 1: and so we started doing events where the general public

567
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: was invited in like our I do music, our workshops,

568
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: our podcasts and stuff like that. People don't realize how

569
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: studios were before we were there. Most of them were

570
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: owned by artists or producer back by a label, and

571
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: if you didn't have any affiliation with that particular person,

572
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: you couldn't get in there. The studios weren't open to

573
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: the public. We opened them up, so we started doing

574
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: events and bringing regular people in so they can see

575
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 1: all of this stuff. And then now our model is

576
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: the studio model. I mean most of the studios that

577
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: have come after us, either the owner or the architect

578
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: came to sit down with me and ask questions and

579
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 1: I showed them how we did things. But yeah, it's

580
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: a pivot to do to bring the people in. And

581
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: like I said before, you still if you ain't signing

582
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: to Social Death, you ain't really getting the JD studio

583
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: back then, if you wasn't on rowdy records, you wouldn't

584
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: getting in Dark and if you wasn't signing the face,

585
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: you wouldn't getting into the Coco. And if you didn't

586
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: know Bobby Brown, you couldn't get into Bosstown. And so

587
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: we came in as a one hundred percent commercial facility,

588
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: and we positioned ourselves as Atlanta Studio. So even when

589
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: we had people coming from out of town like cash

590
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: Money or nas or jay Z or whatever. Instead of

591
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: going to somebody else's studio that you're in competition with.

592
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: You want to be able to anchor down in a

593
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: place that can become yours while you're there for those

594
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: three weeks. And so we've just always looked at ourselves

595
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: as Atlantas we belong to the city. And it ain't

596
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: really me or it wasn't Bob's or nothing. This is

597
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: Atlanta's studio. It's patchwork. And so the weird part about

598
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: it now is that a lot of the studios have

599
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: gone back private. So our bigger studios, Doppler was our granddaddy.

600
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,919
Speaker 1: Somebody bought that and they were going to turn it

601
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 1: into it like a wrecking yard, but they pulled all

602
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: of the gear out and they rent out rooms with

603
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: people and Silent Sound Tip bought it, so now it's private.

604
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: Dark Future bought it, so now it's private. Bobby Brown

605
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: Studios on by Stink only, Okay, So it's private. And

606
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: so all these places are reverting back to being private,

607
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: and so it's interesting, you know, and we're still sitting

608
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: there just hustling, you know what I mean. It would

609
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: be nice to I think it would have been cool.

610
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: I remember one point when Polo was hot and they

611
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: wanted to rent our studio for a whole year. Jimmy

612
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: Iveen flew down. Another dude flew down with them. They

613
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: came to the studio and they wanted to rent the

614
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: studio for a year, and I told them no, and

615
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 1: they didn't understand why, and I said, you're gonna kill

616
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: my client base, you know what I mean. If all

617
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: these people called me and can't get in the studio

618
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: for a year, they ain't gonna call me no more.

619
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: And I believed in ourselves to be like, we can

620
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: book this room up on our own. I don't even

621
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: know one person to give me this money or whatever.

622
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: So it was interesting. And then a lot of other studios,

623
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: I'll be seeing them bragging about clients that they got

624
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: and they don't realize that they called me first and

625
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: I told them no. I told them like, you can't

626
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: smoke in here, so go somewhere else. And then they

627
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: bragging that they got future or Lil Wayne, and I'm like, well,

628
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: I told them to get out, you know what I mean.

629
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: So it's cool. And then yeah, we ain't really trying

630
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: to be that trapped out facility because we have judges,

631
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: we have attorneys, we got Kirk Franklin coming in, you

632
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: know what I mean. We got kids, tours, we got colleges,

633
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: we got all these different things going on throughout the day,

634
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: and we ain't trying to trap it out. And so

635
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: sometimes they don't understand that, like why we can't smoke

636
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: in here and why we can't stand on the table,

637
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's bigger than rap man. We're doing

638
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: other stuff throughout the day. And I keep saying, it's

639
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: weird where it's seeming like so many people when they

640
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: go places, instead of elevating to the new place that

641
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: you went to bringing yourself up, it seemed like they

642
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: want to pull everything down to where they operate. And

643
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. And I'm like, man,

644
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: you're not finna come in here and act like you

645
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: at your house or your homiees house and trap this

646
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: place house and not observe all the rules. My expectation

647
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: is that when you come here, you need to raise

648
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: yourself up because we want to be great, you know

649
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: what I mean?

650
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So it's always interesting, man, Like you know,

651
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: I've noticed that in general, right, A lot of times

652
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: people think because they're you know, paying for a service

653
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: or paying for a space. They can kind of do

654
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: whatever they want to do in it. I remember one

655
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: of my my favorite quotes is by Snoop Dogg, and

656
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 2: he kind of talks about just himself as an individual, right,

657
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: and he's saying in the quote, basically what he had

658
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: to realize was when he kind of got to a

659
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: certain level, what he couldn't do is he couldn't to

660
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: your point, he couldn't fill the gap down by going

661
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: and getting people and bringing them up like he couldn't

662
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: he couldn't reach back. He would tell them, y'all got

663
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: to step up to where I'm at. And I think

664
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm hearing kind of the same thing. It's like, look,

665
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: we were in that space, we were doing a certain

666
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: kind of thing. But as we've gotten, as we've grown up,

667
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: we've evolved, our client client base has gotten more diverse.

668
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: We're doing different kinds of things. Like when you come here,

669
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: there's also just a certain way you got to move,

670
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with That's the role with setting

671
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: that expectation because again, the results speak for themselves.

672
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I hear people all the time. I can

673
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: listen to somebody and they talking to their homie, they'd

674
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: be like, we're going to the studio today, and were

675
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: going to the studio, but they'll be like when they

676
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: go on to us, they'll say the name and they'll

677
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: be like, nah, nah shady, you got to be here

678
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: on time they charge from the time professional studio. We

679
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: ain't doing that no more. And so that was always cool.

680
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Is that, man, that's the expectation that we can operate

681
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: at that level. And so we've never branded ourselves as

682
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: a black owned studio or a minority owned. We never

683
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: got any money from the city. We don't have any grants. Man.

684
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: We are here working and were trying to be great,

685
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So if people want to

686
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: operate on it, I'm not coming down. It's my pride

687
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: to tell people to get out. I want the reputation

688
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: to be that they don't play, which is what it is.

689
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: So like I'm supposed to go today and go meet that.

690
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I probably shouldn't say this, but Tip been calling me

691
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: about three times and he's asking for my help with

692
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: his facility. And I've office approached probably about five years

693
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: ago from Jesu's people to help with his place and

694
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: one of the things that Jeezi said. He's like, man,

695
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody else to do it but you

696
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: because I respect you. He's like, man, you wouldn't let

697
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: snoop smoke up in there. He said. I tried to

698
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: pay you to smoke up in there and you wouldn't

699
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: do it. And that's kind of how I want to operate.

700
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: So it's weird for me. I'd be like, I'll be staying.

701
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: The craziest thing is these dudes want to come through

702
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: your place and tear down. They want to go to

703
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: your clubs and stand on couches, get on the bars.

704
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: But if you ever look at their house, they got

705
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: these all white rooms that you can't go in. They cars,

706
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: you can't wear your jeans on or whatever. And so

707
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, it's a trip, Like you want

708
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: to come tear my stuff up, but when you go

709
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: to your house you want peace or whatever. So we

710
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: I just refuse to operate like that. And it's it's

711
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: been cool that the people that I thought was upset

712
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: they actually respected ten twenty years later they come back

713
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: and be like, that's how I want my stuff run.

714
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't want my stuff trapped out and so it's

715
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: a true I seen two Chayes one day. He's like, man,

716
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: I ain't been back to the studio, Kirk, because you

717
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: won't let me smoke in the room. And I was

718
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: sitting there thinking like, I ain't never asked you to

719
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: come back, Like not like that because I like him,

720
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: but I was like, I'm not out here solictening asking

721
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: people to come work at the studio. It's kind of like,

722
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: we got rules, we got morals, and we got standards,

723
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: and this is what they are. They've been for over

724
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: thirty years. And they'd be like her, it ain't playing man,

725
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna let you do it.

726
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: And I'm cool with that, And again it's not it's

727
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: because there's a certain kind of work product that you

728
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: want to put out, and it's about having pride. Like

729
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: I said, you go to the people's houses, they tell

730
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: you take off their shoes and they come into their house.

731
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they do You ever see him smoking weed

732
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: on the breakfast club? Right or yeah? Act like they

733
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: can't get up and make the morning show, but they

734
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: can get to the breakfast club at six in the

735
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: morning and they're not smoking, they not vaping, they not

736
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: doing hookah. And and stuff like that. So that's why just

737
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: telling people if you want to operate at a certain level,

738
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: like you said, don't drop down because they're a superstar,

739
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: make them step up to where you are. I'm big

740
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: on that.

741
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Now you know you just mentioned Jeezy and

742
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: I know you know they recorded TM one on one

743
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: at patch work, you know, mixing, mastered it, and now

744
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: you know, twenty years later they're doing it, you know,

745
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: with the orchestra and all this stuff, and you know,

746
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: how do you feel like when you see something like that,

747
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: the evolution of a you know, from where that was

748
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: when it first started, to like now being at the

749
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: Atlanta Symphony Orchestra and doing that same kind of music.

750
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give you I'm trying to figure out

751
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: how to best say this without saying too much. So anyway,

752
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: when they I saw when they were going to go

753
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 1: to the Atlanta Symphony Orchestra. And at the time, Solomon

754
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: was kind of management and working with Jez. Solomon used

755
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: to work for Puffy. We used to run justin'e. So

756
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: I pick up the phone and I say Solomon, He said,

757
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: what's up? I said, don't let that performance die? In

758
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: that or in that symphony. He said, what do you mean.

759
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: I said, don't you let that y'all getting all this

760
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: stuff together with this band and this orchestra, don't you

761
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: let it die. He's like, what do you mean? I said,

762
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: you need to record? He said, Oh, they got all

763
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: kind of engineers there. I said, those engineers are for

764
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: the front of the house. Their job is to make

765
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: sure it sounds good. And the symphony orchestra, we need

766
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: to send our engineers there to capture that for you.

767
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: So he agreed. So we ended up sending our engineers

768
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: to go to some of the stuff. We caught a

769
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: rehearsal because we need to isolate some of the maybe

770
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,439
Speaker 1: the harps and stuff like that. And then we went

771
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: out and recorded it at the orchestra. And that's all

772
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: I can say about that. When is this episode coming out?

773
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: We got we got a couple weeks and it'll be

774
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: got a little time.

775
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot twenty six.

776
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: It's gonna be dope, all right, Okay, I can't wait

777
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: to see it. I can't wait to see it. Man.

778
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: But but but but again, it's it's with him, you know,

779
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: just like the you know, probably like about a week

780
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: ago he texts me at like six forty five in

781
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: the morning, top of the day, and I'll be laughing

782
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: because when we first started our relationship, it ain't no

783
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: way he was getting up at six forty five. When

784
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: we first started our relationship, every time he came to

785
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: the studio, it was like thirty niggas well. It would

786
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: change the like literally, if you ever wanted to know

787
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: what it felt like when the energy in the room changed,

788
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 1: it was with them and BMF and when they would

789
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: roll it it would just tense up. Man. And now

790
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: he comes over there no later than twelve in the

791
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: morning by hisself, and it's such a different person, and

792
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: I'll be having to tell him. I'm like, man, you

793
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: done grew up. And it's cool to be able to

794
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: Like I saw him doing an interview and he's like, yeah,

795
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, Tupac Nam they had a run of four

796
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: to five years. They died early. We never got to

797
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: see what they was going to be like at twenty years.

798
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: So now he's celebrating twenty years on that album, and

799
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: look at where he started to who he is now.

800
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: And that's cool to see that, biggie. We didn't get

801
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: to see him. We didn't get to see pac you

802
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But Jeezi as a you know,

803
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: spitting that type of rap. It's cool to see him

804
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: evolving who he is. And even some of the other

805
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: clients like Waka and Gucci and Ludacris. Just to see

806
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: these people grow up and mature is really cool. And

807
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: then to be able to still be around operating at

808
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: such a high level that they still use you to

809
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: do some of their projects as an honor.

810
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, And I mean over the years, y'all have collected,

811
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: like I said, over two hundred you know, golden platinum plaques.

812
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: That they make us pay for.

813
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 2: They make y'all pay for them. Like what is what

814
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 2: is that? What is that wall mean to you? Like

815
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: when you see those plaques, what does that mean? You

816
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: do any of them stick out more than other ones,

817
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 2: whether it's the moment.

818
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a couple because they gave them to me,

819
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: so only two people every day. So Lil John, he

820
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: gave me his plaque. He brought it over there and

821
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: he picked the space that he was so happy that

822
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: he put it on the wall. So and you come

823
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: there and you see that little John plaque. He put

824
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: that there. And then jeezing them speaking to him. They

825
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: gave out like an appreciation plaque probably like six years

826
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: of who was really influential and playing a part of

827
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 1: that first album. That's the only plaque in the studio

828
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: they got my name on it. The other one say

829
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: Patchwork or whatever, but they gave me that particular plaque.

830
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: And then we got an Outcast plaque that went diamond,

831
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: so it did ten million. And then we got Waka

832
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: No Hands plaque that went ten million. But the Outcast,

833
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: the Waka ten million is a single and it's been streaming.

834
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: That Outcast man. They sold over ten million CDs at

835
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: twenty dollars. That one right there means something to me.

836
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: And then my favorite ARTI we got a Tupac plaque.

837
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: So if you walk in the studio, it's probably the

838
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: biggest plaque there. It sits underneath these lights that shine

839
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: on it. And I love that plaque.

840
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, getting ready to throw this thirtieth you know,

841
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 2: anniversary event, you know, and why are you making it

842
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: in a festival? Like what do you want people to

843
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: walk away from Patchwork feeling like that day?

844
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: So on the twentieth anniversary, you know, I asked people

845
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: what should we do. Everybody like we should do a

846
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: concert or a party. I said, man, I just be

847
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: thinking that like concerts and party They to me, they

848
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: tear people down, like you drink all night, you gotta

849
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: drive home, you tired or whatever. It's not putting nothing

850
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: back into people. So I only ever did the five

851
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: K because I felt like it was healthy. My concept

852
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: was patchwork, we run the streets. Let's really get out

853
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: in the streets. So we did five K where we

854
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: had over three hundred, mostly black people running the streets

855
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: of Atlanta. We started at the front or whatever, and

856
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: we come to the thirtieth and they keep saying, man,

857
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: we need to have a concert or a party or whatever.

858
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: And so one of the guys that used to run

859
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: the record label told me he would do it, and

860
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: so I agreed to it, and I said, I'm gonna

861
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: do the race. You gotta do it. And of course

862
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: he ain't did anything. Nothing nothing. I had to get

863
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: the guests, I had to work out the deals, I

864
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: had to get the sound or whatever. So I feel

865
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: like I got hustled into it. But the goal of

866
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: it is one is free parking. Right. I don't have

867
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: any VIP sections. You know what I mean the artists

868
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: is gonna be amongst us, food trucks and all this

869
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: so so good food, good drinks, good location, good people.

870
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: I just wanted to feel like patchwork, feel like home,

871
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: feel like everybody can come out there. You can bring

872
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: your kids, you can bring your dogs and just have

873
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: a good time. And literally we were gonna give the

874
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: tickets away, but we have this. We turned our I

875
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: Do Music into a nonprofit and so we're just telling

876
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: people donate five dollars to I Do Music, which is

877
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: tax deductive, We're going to give you a ticket. I

878
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: think our most expensive thing we had was a table

879
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: that hold eight people backstage, and we sold them for

880
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: sixty dollars. So it ain't about the money. I want

881
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: to take the money to cover the expenses, and then

882
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: next year we have a bunch of people, like yesterday

883
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: we had Georgia Tech with twenty eight kids come and

884
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: do a tour. We may have some private schools that

885
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: bring a bus, give people lunch, come do a tour.

886
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: And then some of the minority schools, you know, they

887
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: riding and cars that come down there and they can't

888
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: really do lunch. My goal next year is to raise

889
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: enough money through I do music where we can sponsor

890
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: at least three to four different schools that come to

891
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: a tour of the studio and we can pay for

892
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: it and buy them lunch and help help with the transportation.

893
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: So that's how we kind of want to get back

894
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: to spending a round. So yeah, So we did an

895
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: event the other day that the feedback is like, it

896
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: just feels good. We did a Vinyl party, brought in

897
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: pastor Troy rock O, the Young Bloods and some executives

898
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: and Fable and playing records off of Nyl and I

899
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: felt like it recharged the artists because that was, like

900
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: I keep saying, most of the diehard fans never get

901
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: to be that close to them and usually sitting at

902
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: the top of the stadium and all this stuff. And

903
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: so they got to eat with them, they got to

904
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: talk to them, they got to take pictures, they got

905
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: to listen to their music and hear the stories, and

906
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: all everybody keeps saying is thank you. I needed that.

907
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: It felt good and so if we can achieve that

908
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: with the with the music Fest, I'd be happy with that.

909
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: I want people to walk away feeling appreciated, valued and

910
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: recharged and ready to ready to move forward.

911
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you mentioned I do Music. That's your nonprofit

912
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: has been around for fourteen years, Like what exactly does

913
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: that do to help kind of bridge the gap with

914
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: these classes and the case.

915
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: So under Patchwork, I felt like we got pigeonholed as

916
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: a hip hop and R and B facility, and I

917
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: felt like, I do Music opens it up. Everybody body

918
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: does music, doesn't matter the genre, the color, whatever. So

919
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: we had that brand going, and then we started doing

920
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: all of our educational things underneath I do Music. So

921
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: anything educational, workshop, podcasts, masterclass, different events, tours and stuff,

922
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: we did it under I do Music, And so I

923
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: wanted to make it kind of more nondescript and not

924
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: so hip hopish, not so rappish and stuff like that

925
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: and kind of open it up. So that brand does

926
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: that for us. So the mission statement of I Do

927
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: Music is to educate and empower artists and musicians worldwide,

928
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: just that simple. So that's what we're trying to do

929
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: with it. And then it's weird, you know, I get

930
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: so many people. You know, we coming up on thirty years,

931
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: so we were at twenty nine years when we established

932
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: is that as a nonprofit and it's like, man, I

933
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: feel like it's Snake's coming out. There's so many people

934
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: that be like this, like I already know what our

935
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: reputation and our goodwill is in the community and what

936
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: we did. So it's kind of like sometimes a lot

937
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: of people they'll start their nonprofit, they got to go

938
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: get all these people on their board to give them credibility,

939
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: and then you kind of starting out without a reputation.

940
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: And so some people have said, I did it the

941
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: other way, where we done work for twenty nine years,

942
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: built a reputation. We already been doing this stuff in

943
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: the community, and now we have a physical location that

944
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: belongs to us and we set up a nonprofit. Everybody

945
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: keep coming up to me trying to partner with me,

946
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 1: but they're trying to partner with me because they want

947
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: to make money off of it. And I'm like, our

948
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: board is me, my wife, Mike, and his wife. Mike's

949
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: the other owner. I don't need the hype. We actually

950
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: want to help. And so it's so many people keep

951
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: trying to rush me into doing things and I'm like, well,

952
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: that's the wrong reason. I don't care if these grants

953
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: are they're giving out money right now. We actually want

954
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: to help our people, and so that's what I'm looking

955
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: to do for it. And so, like last year, I

956
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: had to fill out a form. It was funny when

957
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: you did you fill out the forum. At first it

958
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: was kind of asking like how much money do you

959
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: expect to make any and I was like, shit, nothing, Yeah,

960
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: I make no money, man, what you mean? Somebody will

961
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: give me some money? And so like last year, we

962
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: had to add up how much money we collected, and

963
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: we collected about eighty seven hundred dollars and I was like,

964
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: off some bs, like we didn't really do anything, and

965
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,760
Speaker 1: it made me feel good. And that's why I keep saying,

966
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: is like I got my own grade scale. I'm not

967
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: operating off of everybody else. If my video get a

968
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: hundred likes, I think I did great. If three hundred

969
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: people watch our podcast, I'm like, I'm not comparing it

970
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: to somebody else. So in my world, if somebody gave

971
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 1: us eighty seven hundred dollars over the course of the year,

972
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: and we use that money to sponsor kids to go

973
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: to our workshops, I feel like we unstoppable, you know

974
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: what I mean? So yeah, next year we should be

975
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: queued up well we can do some real fundraising and

976
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: then start making some bigger impacts in the community. That's

977
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: to go. I'm trying to stay away from the suckers, though, Man,

978
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: I'll try. It's hard, bro.

979
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 2: Look, I get more people give me up about can we partner?

980
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: Can we talk? And you know, I always ask people

981
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: it's like it's like, you can't. It's a big word

982
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: and you can't put Obviously, if you're coming to me,

983
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: you're come for a reason. And I recognize that there's

984
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: a value that we provide. But like what a lot

985
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: of people don't always talk about is what value they're

986
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: going to bring to the table. Like you can see

987
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: that it comes across in like a very transactional way.

988
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: And well, I tell people it's like, look, you can't

989
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: put the burden on me to figure out how you're

990
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: gonna help me. So when I ask people people say

991
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: I want to partner with you, I say, well, what

992
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: does that mean? What does that look like?

993
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: Like?

994
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: Tell me, like we gotta get on the phone to

995
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 2: talk about Just tell me, like what is it? Because

996
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: I can make that determination. But like what I what

997
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: I can't do is and I've done it before, and

998
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I just I can't. I can't figure

999
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: out where you can fit in at if you know

1000
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 2: what I do and you know what Butter does and

1001
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: you're aware of it, of it extra job, YEA given me.

1002
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: I got plenty of stuff to do.

1003
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: So look, I can I say this one thing that

1004
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: just we're we're new in that space. And so we've

1005
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: had other people of color that come and say, hey,

1006
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: we got a nonprofit and we want to do this

1007
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: thing in different cities where we get studio time and

1008
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: bring artists in and record. And I'm like, okay, well

1009
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: what you want me to do it? They you want

1010
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: me to donate the studio time. And I was like, man,

1011
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: come in the office so we can talk. I said, listen, man,

1012
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: I think you looking at this and we as black people,

1013
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: be looking at these nonprofits wrong. I said. So you

1014
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: got your status based on your said you're going to

1015
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: do something for the community and offer a service that

1016
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: the government don't. So they giving you money so you

1017
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: can go do that. I said, So you have the

1018
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: ability to raise money, you know, for your causes. Why

1019
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: don't you go out there and raise money tell your

1020
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: people that hey, I want to do this for the

1021
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: kids and put them in the studio and raise money

1022
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: and come to me and pay me. Yeah, yeah, come

1023
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: to me and pay me, because that's what the other

1024
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: all these other nonprofits that ain't black, they write a

1025
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: check to book the studio time for the people. So

1026
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: I'll be trying on the tea. Sher I said. Listen, man,

1027
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: we can help you. We can create a campaign and

1028
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: have people donate to the nonprofit to cover the stuff.

1029
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: But we get these nonprofits running around begging the people

1030
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: that we know to give up the most valuable asset

1031
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: that makes them money to give away to you. What

1032
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 1: do you got the nonprofit for to raise money to

1033
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 1: help people? Right, yeah, you raise money to help the people.

1034
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 1: Bring me the money and pay me. Stop stop coming

1035
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: around asking for people for free.

1036
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 2: Man. No, you know, I love that, and it actually

1037
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: makes me kind of want to ask you to just

1038
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, especially being in the music business, being in

1039
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 2: this space, being in the studio space again, you're dealing

1040
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 2: with everybody from artists to you know, the managers and

1041
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: the companies and the labels, and you know, I'm sure

1042
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: it's some interesting characters out there, you know, all on

1043
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: those sides of it. What kind of mindset, you know,

1044
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: does it take to stay successful amongst all that in

1045
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: that space.

1046
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: Kind of stand neutral, like you know what I mean.

1047
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: That's what they always say if they talking about me,

1048
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: that courages ain't too high, he ain't too low. You

1049
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: don't get too mad, he don't get too angry. I

1050
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 1: may get angry behind the scenes or something with my

1051
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: staff or something, but that's never in front of anybody else.

1052
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: But it's just my mindset, my degrees in psychology, and

1053
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: so I operate from the standpoint that everybody is doing

1054
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: the best that they can with what they have. And

1055
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: I operate from whenever I meet somebody, they have a Hey,

1056
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: you have to work to get to be in the

1057
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: c you have to not turn into work, you have

1058
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: to skip class, you gotta fail on the test, you

1059
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 1: have to work. I'm gonna give you the benefit of

1060
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: the doubt and then it's up to you where you

1061
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: end up. So that's kind of like how sometimes I

1062
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: just talk to people when they start being talking crazy,

1063
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of times in before the people

1064
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 1: in New York used to talk crazy, and I'll pick

1065
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: up the phone, I say, hey, man, listen, I own

1066
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: the studio or I'm the manager at the time, and

1067
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: I don't talk to my employees like that, So he

1068
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be talking to people like that down here, man,

1069
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: And if you want to talk to people like that,

1070
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: you should go somewhere else. Yeah, and we just fix it.

1071
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: But when I do that stuff, like I tell people,

1072
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: would you mentioned these artists and producers that are famous,

1073
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: The worst thing that you can do is try to

1074
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: have a conversation like that in front of other people,

1075
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: because they look at the other people as an audience

1076
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: and they finna put on the show. So I can

1077
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: have that conversation if I pull them in the office

1078
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: or call them off site, and I can kind of

1079
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: tell them something and don't do it in front of people.

1080
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: But I tell my staff, don't you go in that

1081
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: room and try to tell him something in front of

1082
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: twenty people, because he's gonna give you a show. And

1083
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: so I just try to pull it off to the side,

1084
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: or like if they getting too rowdy in front of

1085
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of people, I'd be like, oh, they putting

1086
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: on the show. Let me just get off this phone

1087
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: or let me let them have this space, and then

1088
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull them off to the side, and we're

1089
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: gonna have a real conversation and we're gonna eliminate that,

1090
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1091
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: I love that idea that everybody starts off with a A

1092
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 2: and you gotta work to get a B or see.

1093
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: I think that I might borrow that. I think I'm

1094
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: an borrow that one from you. You know. I love

1095
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: that perspective, like when it comes to just lessons and

1096
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 2: how you kind of operate, Like for the for the

1097
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: new artists, for the artists that you know are launching

1098
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: now that want to emerge, that want to grow and

1099
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: to be successful, what's one kind of like studio habit

1100
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: that you would tell them they need to adopt as

1101
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: early as possible in their career.

1102
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: I think that they need to spend more time in

1103
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: the studio, and they need to spend time in the

1104
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: studio with more than just themselves. Like all of that

1105
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: great music was like when these people were going to

1106
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: the studio and it be twenty thirty people in there

1107
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: most of the time. Back in the day, they would say,

1108
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: book a studio at eight o'clock and then they would

1109
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: leave at midnight, go to the club, and then they

1110
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: would bring the club back to the studio at two

1111
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: in the morning, and if them people was partying and

1112
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: feeling good about them records, they knew they had good records.

1113
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: I feel like music is being made by themselves. And

1114
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: so when these people kind of isolate themselves, they get

1115
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: more money. Right, So, now they got a movie theater

1116
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 1: in their house, they don't go to the movie theater.

1117
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: They got a bowling alley in their house, they don't

1118
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: go bowl They got a shift, they don't go out

1119
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: the restaurants. And then they not in public. They get

1120
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: so detached that they not feeling what's going out there.

1121
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I think it's a disservice for us. Like I keep

1122
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: saying that we show up and kind of cheapen things.

1123
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: What benefit does it do you as a producer or

1124
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 1: artist to say I made that beat in five minutes.

1125
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: I ain't right my rhyme. I just went in there

1126
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: and said, whatever, okay, well, now the record labels like

1127
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: what I need to give you ten thousand dollars per

1128
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: song for you just told me you can take that

1129
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: radio shack microphone or record it in your house and

1130
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: get a beat from your homeboy. No other industry does that.

1131
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: We'd the dumb it were the most ignorant people. We

1132
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 1: lower the value into all of the places that we

1133
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: go to, And so I don't like that, like the

1134
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: country people be like n We wrote this song, we

1135
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: worked on it for twenty years, we brought twenty musicians in,

1136
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: we was in the studio, we rewrote it, we demoed it,

1137
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So for me, I've seen people

1138
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: make a mistake. You get a budget from a record

1139
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: label and you try to be cheap on it. You

1140
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: bragging that, hey, I did twelve songs and only spent

1141
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: ten thousand of my budget. Guess what the label do.

1142
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: They'll put your stuff on the shelf and say, we

1143
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: really ain't investing it. Then we can get rid of them.

1144
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: Now I see Mariah in them. They spend so much

1145
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: money that the album has to come out. So you

1146
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: making a mistake by going around trying to talk down

1147
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: the studio, Talk down the producers, talk down the DJs,

1148
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: talk down the videographers, talk down the publicists. So they're

1149
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: not invested in you, so they can just get rid

1150
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: of you. So I would just say, man, you need

1151
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: to spend more time talk up your craft, stop belittling

1152
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: you didn't just write that song. On that day. You

1153
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: thought about it in your car for twelve days, then

1154
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: you went in there and said it. But I just

1155
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: think people got to be a little bit more intelligent

1156
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: of like, who are you helping by making it look

1157
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 1: like you made this movie on your iPhone in twenty minutes.

1158
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna give you any money for that.

1159
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think people definitely gotten caught up in them.

1160
00:52:58,120 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to call it the mass production of it,

1161
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: but I remember reading this book. It was called the

1162
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: Future of Music and kind of talked about, you know,

1163
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: it's gonna be the people that you know bring more

1164
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 2: to the space. I remember I was talking to my boy,

1165
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: mister Hanky one time and I was telling him, I said, man,

1166
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: look respectfully, man, I'm gonna blame Little Wayne for some

1167
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: of this. And he's like, what do you mean? I said, Bro, Like,

1168
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 2: Lil Wayne was making so much music and it was good.

1169
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: All y'all thought it was easy, you know what I mean,

1170
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: y'all thought everybody could do the same thing, and everybody

1171
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 2: started kind of copying what he was doing, and like

1172
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: that was his lane and he was amazing at it.

1173
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: He could literally sit there and to your point, not

1174
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: necessarily write stuff down, come out with twenty thirty songs.

1175
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: But all y'all thought y'all had to do the same thing,

1176
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: and you realize that there's a big difference between you,

1177
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 2: Wayne mad.

1178
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: Some artists think they you can't all disappear for ten years,

1179
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: come back gonna be there. She's special, he's special. But

1180
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: he was in the studio. We had a three year

1181
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: round with cash Money. Yeah, they were doing eighteen hour sessions.

1182
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: That the part they don't hear about. That's the part

1183
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: they hear about. They think, yeah, it was just all

1184
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, I always say the hard you know, the

1185
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: hard part is making it look easy. But people focus

1186
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: on the easy part. But to your point, you.

1187
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 1: Know what I think they always tell people if you

1188
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: think about how hip hop kind of first started, if

1189
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: you think about it, a lot of times, like the

1190
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: song Lottie Dottie in the show, it was only a

1191
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: single with a B side, air being Rocky in My

1192
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,280
Speaker 1: Melody and I'm President. These people didn't believe in rap,

1193
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: and so they sought out the best people to do it.

1194
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: They was like, man, if we're gonna spend all this

1195
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: money to go on the studio, by these reels do

1196
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: all this stuff. They filtered through and only let the

1197
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: best people, but they were so dope they only let

1198
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: them do two songs, and then if them songs popped off,

1199
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: they spent the money to do an album. Then they

1200
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: put them albums out and they start making money. And

1201
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: other people looked at it like you said, and was like,

1202
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: I need to get me a rapper, and I can

1203
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: do that, and it just got oversaturated with less talented people,

1204
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: whereas before there was a barrier or entrance to get

1205
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: in it. And so one of the things that always

1206
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: say that our industry is suffering from is that there

1207
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: aren't any standards to be in it. So you can

1208
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: have somebody that's the president of a record label that

1209
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: never graduate from graduated from high school. I can have

1210
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: I have people that call me about listing to studio

1211
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: on websites and I'd be like, I'm not going on

1212
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: there because you don't have any standards. The dude they

1213
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: got a studio in his house, he gonna say, I

1214
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: got the number one studio in Atlanta, and you're gonna

1215
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: put it up there. And like I tell people other

1216
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 1: industries like hotels they got a one star, they got

1217
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: a two star. They got a three star, four and

1218
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: a five, and you got to meet certain requirements to

1219
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: get in there. Our airlines are kind of slot it,

1220
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, when there's a low price carrier, when there's

1221
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: a premium and whatever. But in this music industry, we

1222
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: don't have any standards. And so when somebody says a

1223
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: song is recorded, is it properly recorded, you don't know.

1224
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: Is it mixed? You don't know? Is it mastered? You

1225
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: don't know? Is it a recording studio? Every studio on

1226
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: there on Google that you said you did our home

1227
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 1: we number one on the regular thing. We ain't pay

1228
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: for no ads, so we show up number one. But

1229
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: if you look at the ones that's up there that's

1230
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: paid for, they say number one studio in Atlanta. And

1231
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: so you know, our stuff. We just need some standards

1232
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: and our stuff. And I think that some of us

1233
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: need standards in all of our industries for what we

1234
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: do with everybody, like even all this stuff now and

1235
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: I see stuff be calling stuff university and they're giving

1236
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: out these phony degrees and master classes and did stuff

1237
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: like that. Man, y'all just being loose with that stuff,

1238
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: and it's devaluing it, which is what I kind of

1239
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: hate to see from us. It's like whenever we show up,

1240
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: we lower the value.

1241
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: One thing I always kind of notice is like, especially nowadays,

1242
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: it seems like everybody wants everything to be okay all

1243
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: the time. And I tell people that, no, that's not

1244
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 2: the case.

1245
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: Bro.

1246
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 2: Like it was funny. I was I was out, you know,

1247
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: with a restaurant this weekend, and you know, I was

1248
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: there with my parents and like, you know, we were

1249
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: having brunch and like, bro, the DJ is just like

1250
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: playing it. Look, I love rap.

1251
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: Music loud, probably, but it wasn't even loud, bro.

1252
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 2: It was every unedited version of any song you can listen.

1253
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, I got my kids in here. Yeah,

1254
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 2: I got my parents in here. Like I don't have

1255
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 2: a problem with rap, but like I heard more cusswords

1256
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: around them, and I'm like and even just the self

1257
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: awareness to be like, you know what, maybe I should

1258
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: play the clean version. YEP.

1259
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: So it's funny you said that. So I went to

1260
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: Michigan State, right, and Draymond Green went to Michigan State,

1261
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: and I always be about to be like when I

1262
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: see him, I'm be like, you gotta stop, because I

1263
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: got a daughter that she's eleven or twelve now twelve,

1264
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: just turned twelve, and I don't listen to any I

1265
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,919
Speaker 1: don't even already listen to no rap music in front

1266
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: of her or whatever. Less it's the old school because

1267
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: they weren't recussing. But I'll be like, man, i'd be

1268
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: listening to you doing interviews and in the middle of

1269
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: your interview you just start cussing. What are you doing?

1270
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: Man?

1271
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: Like it's kids listening to this stuff, like we listening

1272
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: to you and you saying smart stuff. But right in

1273
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: the middle of it, I didn't My wife be like, man,

1274
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: what you listening to? And I said, man, I ain't

1275
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: know he was finna cuss like that. So I think

1276
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: that like you saying like, so, even when we do stuff,

1277
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: if somebody is in there older than me, I'll tell

1278
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: the DJ play all clean versions, don't you be Like

1279
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: when you they come to the festival, I said, it's

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Speaker 1: comfortable for your family, for your kids and dogs. If

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Speaker 1: you hear a dirty version, you come get me. It

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00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: won't it won't happen. And it's like, man, I don't

1283
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: know why people don't care, and but it's weird that

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00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: you picked up on that because I would have been

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00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: the same thing in the restaurant, like, man, what are

1286
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: you playing?

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, man. I mean even I had a buddy

1288
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 2: of mine and like, you know, I learned a lesson

1289
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 2: because I think, you know, like an entrepreneurship, you know,

1290
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 2: like unlike like like music. You know, there's certain people

1291
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: the kind of people like look up to and so

1292
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 2: like Gary Vee like does a lot of stuff in entrepreneurship,

1293
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: and like you know, he'll curse and do like stuff

1294
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: here and there. But I had a buddy of mine

1295
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: and he was making content, he was putting on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 2: He was cursing everything, and I said, I called him

1297
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: one day and I was like, hey, bro, you got

1298
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: to stop cursing on LinkedIn. I said, because I get

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00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: why you're doing it, and I understand you, and you're

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00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: a very smart person. But I'm telling you as a

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00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: person that you respect. Bro, You're not Gary Vee. Right,

1302
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: he can get away with that stuff. You can't. When

1303
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: you say it, people are gonna look at you differently,

1304
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: and they're not gonna hear. They're gonna hear that you

1305
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: drop the F bomb for no reason in the middle

1306
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: of your sentence, where you could have so no again.

1307
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 2: I think it's just this weird space for in right

1308
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 2: now now. Everybody wants everything to be okay all the time,

1309
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: and I don't. I don't come from that.

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Speaker 1: I would challenge you to go on our Instagram and

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00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: find me a song because I got on the girls

1312
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: about posting the dirty version of the song. Yeah. I'm like, man,

1313
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: what are you doing? You don't know who looking at

1314
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: this stuff? And when I click on it and you

1315
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: playing this dirty verse. That's even when people I be

1316
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: looking at people that do their highlights for their kids. Man,

1317
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: you got this music all loud and all this stuff.

1318
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: It's we ignorant. Oh. I keep telling people that they

1319
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: did a job on us for four and the years

1320
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: they got us, we party in no matter what, Man,

1321
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: we partying. When the kids born, we partying, when the

1322
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: kids die, we party, and when we get married, we party,

1323
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: and when we get a divorce party, and when we

1324
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: buy a house, we party, and when we go bankrupt.

1325
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: They tricked us, man, Our people is just like I mean,

1326
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: I'll be looking at it. They had a video at

1327
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: the airport they doing the boots on the ground and

1328
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: the airport. Man, there's so much stuff going on in

1329
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: the world and we still party. Ignorance is bliss.

1330
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Speaker 2: And I'm living in it. Man, We'll look. Look, I

1331
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: gotta ask you, man, fast forward ten years from now.

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01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: You know, a young engineer, what do you want them

1333
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 2: to say about patchwork when it's all sitting there, Like

1334
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: when they walk in there for the first time, you know,

1335
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: it's y'all forty year anniversary. And this person again, he's

1336
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: coming in here, he's heard about it, and he walks in, Like,

1337
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: what do you want him to say about finally being

1338
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: in that space?

1339
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: We get that now that it's people's dream and aspiration

1340
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: to get there, and I'm conscious of it. I would

1341
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: want them to feel like we lived up to it.

1342
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: Like that's the biggest thing now. The other thing that

1343
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: as we move on, you know, I always tell people

1344
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: I look at us it's kind of like an institution,

1345
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: and always say that an institution's success is determined or

1346
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: measured by the success of its alumni. It's so many

1347
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: people in the music industry complaining about what's going on

1348
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: right now, but they were in a position where they

1349
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: could have changed it. I'd be like, who's the person

1350
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: that came behind you? Who did you train? Who did

1351
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: you mentor who did you teach? Who did you employ

1352
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: to fill that seat and do it the right way.

1353
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: So my biggest thing is that in ten years, like

1354
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, I went to school with his mom.

1355
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: I got people to studios thirty, we got engineers as

1356
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: twenty one. We trying to move it forward and not

1357
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 1: leave a big gap. It's important for me, like I

1358
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 1: tell people, I say, y'all can do all the stuff

1359
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: that y'all want to do. Y'all can go work over here.

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01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: You don't never hear me complain. I see you go

1361
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: over here, you go do this, you go over here,

1362
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: you spend your money, you do this. But when your

1363
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: niece and your daughter want an internship or a job,

1364
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: you're sitting on my couch. You need to sport these

1365
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: people that are supporting you. And we don't. Never we've

1366
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: never gone around and asked nobody to come to the

1367
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: studio or come back or whatever. And people make assumptions

1368
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 1: that you straight. But these people like I just hired

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01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: a person that's a guy. He worked for me. It

1370
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: was his first job. He's like, you have my first

1371
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: industry check. He was dropping his son off. He went

1372
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: to cau he going there. He brought his son and

1373
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: I said, you're going to see au. He said yeah.

1374
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: I said, when you start, he's like, I'm coming back

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01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: in two weeks. I'm like, you want a job, he

1376
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 1: said yeah. I said, all right, said I'm giving you

1377
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: the job based on your daddy. I said, now, listen,

1378
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna be here four years. You bet. I don't

1379
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: expect to see you in McDonald's, burger king or whatever.

1380
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: When you leave for spring break and come back, you

1381
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: got a job. You leave for the summer and come back,

1382
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: you got a job. You get your class schedule and

1383
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: tell me when you're going to be in class, and

1384
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna make a schedule where you can come here

1385
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 1: and work. That's what I want. I don't want to

1386
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: be sitting there and it's still about me in six

1387
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: to ten years, you know what I mean. I'm trying

1388
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: to get there. There's a thing where, like I said,

1389
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: I think it's Mike a cameraman and this is Kenai

1390
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: where they have all these ideas, which is good, and

1391
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: they have the energy, but we got to stay around

1392
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: to teach them how to turn those ideas and convert

1393
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: that energy into a business, so that they can sustain.

1394
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: My biggest respect for people. He was talking about Maya early,

1395
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: and I love Maya because he employs black people. I

1396
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: don't care about how what your watch look like, what

1397
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: your car look like. That doesn't impress me. I can

1398
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: like you, but I probably still won't respect you. I

1399
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: respect people that employ people, and so we always have

1400
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: twenty six people working at the studio. I've never missed

1401
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: the payroll. If you work at the reception that's at

1402
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: the studio, you will never feel the call from a

1403
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: bill payer saying I'm calling for a pass through bill.

1404
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: That's what's important to me. And I got to be

1405
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: able to encourage the younger people that have this energy,

1406
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: these ideas because I was that person. I came out

1407
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: of school at twenty three and I thought that we

1408
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 1: can build a studio. I didn't have anybody telling me

1409
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: that we couldn't. My parents never told me that we couldn't.

1410
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: So for them, I'm never really telling them no. But

1411
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: I am being like you said, show me what it's

1412
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: made sense, Like, hey man, you want to do this,

1413
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 1: let's do it. Or tell me how it's gonna work. Okay, well,

1414
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: how's that gonna turn into? And The biggest thing is

1415
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: we can do everything, but is it sustainable and is

1416
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: it gonna pay for itself? If not, what's the purpose

1417
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: of doing at one time? I'm not here for the height.

1418
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to collaborate with younger people. We got

1419
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: engineers in there. There's twenty one twenty that's coming out

1420
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: of school. The issue with the younger people is that

1421
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 1: it's more of a hustle to me. What I'm saying

1422
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: is it doesn't matter if it's my industry or anything.

1423
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 1: Their idea is I'm gonna go to this place and

1424
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: use this place to get information and go start my

1425
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: own stuff. The forty acres is valuable when it's all

1426
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,479
Speaker 1: put together. When it's broken up into one hundred yards

1427
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 1: or a hundred yards a hundred yards, it ain't really

1428
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: worth nothing. So we get people that come in, we

1429
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: train them, we teach them, we get them to a

1430
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: level where they're professional, and then they run off and

1431
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: they want to steal your clients. They want to steal

1432
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: your customers. So think about how many people for thirty

1433
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: years is they coming in there saying, hey man, you

1434
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: can just call me directly, and I got to set

1435
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: up at home that's old. So then as the older person,

1436
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: it makes you not want to pour into the young

1437
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: people because you already know that they just trying to

1438
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: take your stuff and go do something on their own.

1439
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: So it's weird like he's here because I went to

1440
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: school with his mama, So then I don't have to

1441
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 1: worry about him. The guy that I gave a job

1442
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: on the spot, his daddy worked for me and live

1443
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: with me. I know what type of kid that he

1444
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: worked with. So I'm trying to find young people with

1445
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: morals and characteristics that want to come and work and

1446
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: be a part of something, not come steal from you.

1447
01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: And they don't look at it like they're stealing. And

1448
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: I tell them, I said, man, if you're working in

1449
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: the shoe store and the Jordan's cost two hundred dollars,

1450
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: why are you taking a phone call from the god

1451
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: saying can I come by a six thirty and give

1452
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: you one fifty? You stealing?

1453
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1454
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: And so I'll be looking at people for us. I'll

1455
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: be like, well, give me a list of your clients

1456
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: before you interned here, and they don't have any. And

1457
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: then I say, okay, this is your clientlest whose client

1458
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: is that they literally think that they're their clients and

1459
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: that's the stretch, and that's where it's going to be

1460
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: a rub in our industry. Like I tell people, the

1461
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: biggest threat to the recording studio is the engineer, and

1462
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: the studio was built for the engineers. That's crazy. While

1463
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: y'all lying to people telling people that you can do

1464
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: the same thing at home, but you know that you

1465
01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: can do a better job in this room because you

1466
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: can hear better. So it's an interesting thing that we

1467
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: built our business around engineers and for most people. I

1468
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: had a friend that own a smoothie King and she

1469
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: wants to sell it because of the employees. It's like

1470
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 1: they've been there on Instagram, but they won't post nothing

1471
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: about the store. Everybody think that they own entity, their

1472
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: own brand and their own business, and they killing the

1473
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: bigger things that can support all of us.

1474
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah no, look, trust me, I see it, and I

1475
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 2: think you know one of my one of my rules

1476
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: I have is like, you can't work for me until

1477
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: you work for me. I say that people all the time. So,

1478
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 2: like what I want to do is I want to

1479
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: find people. I want to understand, like, yeah, what's your

1480
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 2: work product? Like like I might give you like a

1481
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: little small project. It might it might seem insignificant, right,

1482
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 2: But what I'm paying attention to is, Okay, how are

1483
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 2: you gonna handle this project? How are you gonna get

1484
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: how are you gonna give it back to me? You

1485
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 2: know's information gonna come back organizing a spreadsheet? Or are

1486
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: you gonna text it to me? Like it doesn't matter.

1487
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 2: Like I look at little things like that, and when

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Speaker 2: I find people that do good work, they have a

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Speaker 2: good work product, I'm like, yo, you keep them around.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you keep them around, you know the way

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01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:50,959
Speaker 2: my dad always taught me. He's like, look, man, life

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Speaker 2: is like a bus. You know, everything's like a bus.

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Speaker 2: Some people gonna ride with you all the way to

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Speaker 2: the end. Some people gonna get off. They might get

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Speaker 2: back on. That's why I tell my daughter all the time.

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Speaker 2: But in the day, though, you do the finals. People

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Speaker 2: that have you know, good integrity, you know, good quality.

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Speaker 2: Nothing lasts forever. But while you're here, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, Like, you know, are you just here to

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Speaker 2: just take it extract or are you're leaving something behind

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01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: or pulling something back into it? Because to your point, man, yeah,

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01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: we're in this space now, where everybody, everybody thinks they

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01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 2: can be their own bass so they can run their

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01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 2: own business. And I said, there's a lot of y'all

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01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 2: that should be number two's, number sevens, number fifteens in

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01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 2: companies and really learn how to work or that's just

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01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: where you're supposed to be at versus like everybody has

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01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 2: this boss mentality, you know what I mean? Like everybody,

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01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 2: Look all y'all ain't built for this.

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Speaker 1: Trust men. They know what account money, they don't know

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Speaker 1: what account expenses.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm telling you, man, look, Curtiz, Man, this has

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01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 2: been an amazing conversation. Man again, Man, Pat's work has

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01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 2: done just it's an iconic place. You know, I was

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01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 2: staying earlier, man, Like people talk about you know, Hitsville

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01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: and and you know, Grace Slaying all these other places.

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01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 2: You know, I definitely think that this is you know,

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Speaker 2: the iconic, you know, legendary spot where just so much

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Speaker 2: amazing music is happening Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate us getting them now. As I keep saying,

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Speaker 1: I said, Man, I guess people gonna wait till we

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01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,800
Speaker 1: go out of business to talk about us, and they

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01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: tell us how great we were and all this stuff.

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01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: It's just like I said, a lot of times, you know,

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: people take it for granted, but like I keep saying,

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01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: we're not just open, were thriving, and you know, we're

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: still doing great work and I'm proud about that. But

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01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: these things, you know, are landmarks. And you know, every

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 1: I'm looking back at my last interviews, I feel bad

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01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 1: they five years ago, twenty five, thirty and whatever. But

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01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: who's to say that we're gonna be here for thirty two,

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01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: thirty three, thirty four. So I appreciate you shining the

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01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: light on us while we're still here and actively working.

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01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: It means a lot.

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01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, got getting they flowers? Man, you know everybody like, look, man,

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01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 2: people starting to trip on lebron a little bit. Man,

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01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, Look, longevity is a thing, and to

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: still be performed at that certain level, say what you

1539
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 2: want to say about it. It says a lot because

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01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: a lot of things have come and gone and so again,

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: longevity is a thing. You know. Employing people is a thing,

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 2: Like I said, I think there's a status. It's like

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01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: over ninety percent of black owned businesses don't employ one employed,

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01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: you know, So again, like it's just doing all those

1545
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 2: things or whether it's I do music and putting back

1546
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: in and helping them, like you know, give people opportunities

1547
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: and kind of bring up the next group of engineers too.

1548
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 2: Like that's just something I think is extremely important as

1549
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: that to your point, you know, we got to also

1550
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 2: make sure that when we're building these things, we're putting

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 2: the people in place that are gonna come behind us.

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01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: And that's something that how you.

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01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: Gonna complain about all the stuff when you didn't Yeah,

1554
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: you didn't teach nobody how to do it. That's where

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01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: the gap is is that it's these older I ain't

1556
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: gonna say older people, but these these people that were

1557
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: sitting here. You was at the label, You was the

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01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: an R, you was the president. You now you get

1559
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: you lose your job. Now you want to complain about

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01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: how they're doing stuff. You was in a position to

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01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: change that. It's crazy. Yeah, y'all shut up with all that.

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01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: If you ain't changing, I don't want to hear.

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 2: Heymen, you look you're right on that, brother, trust me. Man,

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01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 2: Before we got out of here, man, just tell everybody,

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01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: for those that you know, give them all the things. Man,

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01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 2: how can they get in contact with patchwork?

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01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: They?

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01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 2: How can they get this stuff over there, you know,

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01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:03,760
Speaker 2: if they're ready for it.

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, even if you ain't. Man, you know, I

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01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: do free consultations, so you can always go. We owe

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01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: school and we knew School. So our website works. Www

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01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 1: dot Patchwork, dot carm Our. Website is not a template either, right,

1574
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 1: it's a real website and so that works and we

1575
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: respond to it. So you can go through the website

1576
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: and get information on how to be an intern. You

1577
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 1: can get information on I do music. You can get

1578
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: information about our thirtieth anniversary celebration, and then we have

1579
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: you on social media at Patchwork Studio, and then the

1580
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: longer form content is on our YouTube page. And like

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01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: I said, my goal is I don't charge for consultations.

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01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find people that want to be in

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01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: the music industry and I'm hoping you come sitting down

1584
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: and talk to me for free. Before you get robbed,

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01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: I'll be feeling like we may lose one of our

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01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:56,719
Speaker 1: most talented person If there's a parent that's hyped about

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01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 1: their kid, they're invested in them, they want to put

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01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: them in the studio, and then they run it to

1589
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: a jankie producer or engineer or a studio that take

1590
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 1: their money. We never knew what that person was gonna be.

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01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: So if you listening and you hear this, you can

1592
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: go on our Instagram or just call us four or

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01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 1: four eight seven four nine eight eight z A nine

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01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: eight eight zero crazy stat We turn in thirty. We

1595
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: never have voicemail. We answering that telephone and were calling

1596
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 1: you back. We taking your call. We ain't hiding from you.

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01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: If you're riding up and down the street, man pull up,

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01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean you may not. If we're busy and got sessions,

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01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: we may can't walk you through. But if it ain't

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01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: nothing going on and I ain't busy, we're not gonna

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01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: turn you away. We're gonna let you come in the building.

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01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna give you some information, and then we'll tell

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01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: you how to set up a proper appointment so we

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01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: can address any concerns that you may have. But my

1605
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: thing is we're here with our arms open. We're not

1606
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: up here like this. We're not trying to keep people away.

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01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: I'll be on my staff about that. I'll be like, man,

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01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: why are you talking through people through the door. We

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01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: got a door, then another door. They can't get past it.

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01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: Stop talking to people and leaving them outside, buzz them

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01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 1: in and bring them in the building. That's what we

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be in there in the morning when

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01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: I be opening up Brandon. If I open up at

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01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 1: tea in that phone ring at like at nine to

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01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: fifty three, at eight fifty three, I literally be like,

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: I'll be breaking my net to get to that phone,

1617
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: because that phone. I remember one time they emailed us

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: at four thirty in the morning, and it turned out

1619
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 1: we ended up doing all of the Spanish versions of

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01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 1: what's her name? Na Si Alexa? Okay man. I thought

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01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: it was a jankie email and I answered it because

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01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: I always say speed kills. But I'll be running there

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01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: in the morning the phone be ringing, I'd be like, man,

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01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: this could be somebody trying to book a month. Yeah,

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01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: And so we're serious about it. So if you call

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01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,600
Speaker 1: email or text, if you want to get one of

1627
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: my employees in trouble, you get me on the phone

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01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: and tell me you sent the email or called up

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01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: there and somebody didn't call you back. And that's probably

1630
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 1: like the worst thing that our employees can do to

1631
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: get in trouble with me is not be responsible to

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:52,600
Speaker 1: our clients.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, we'll look again. Brother, Thank you for pulling up.

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. Congratulations on thirty years here all years,

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: thirty more and beyond and what that's it? We out y'all.

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Speaker 1: That's the podut peace.

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01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: You've been listening to button Nomics and I'm your hosts

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01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 2: Brandon Butler. Got comments, feedback? Want to be on the show.

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01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: Send us an email today at hello at butteronomics dot com.

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