1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: What's ups for Antelage. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: My girl Jordy Door is here with me today and 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: we had Naomi sharing here. Oh this is different for us. Hello, 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: how are you feeling today? 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 3: I'm good. Yeah, it's good to be back in New York. 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: I went to a musical theater show yesterday. Oh would 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: you say Chicago? 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Megan this dallion is coming back today 9 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: to the show. So you just. 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: Look at us. It's cat. 11 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: I haven't seen either one. I'm gonna be honest. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 3: It's really good. You know you should go. Actually, it's 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: like it's iconic, legendary show. 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 2: But if you feel I've seen The Lion King and 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: I know you did the one the Netherlands and I've 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: also I also said the Tina Turner play here as well. 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a great one. Yeah. 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: I actually like going to Broadway. But those are the 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: two that I haven't seen. 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 4: I had never seen Chicago until my friend was in it, 21 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: and that was the reason I went. Still, no, she 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 4: hasn't been there for about a year now. I haven't 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: seen Mulan. 24 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 5: Rouge in the show. 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 5: I want to see Megan though. 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the movie was so good too. Yeah, yeah, yes, I. 28 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: Remember that, so you do, but you do have a 29 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: theatrical background. And for everybody listening, she's the first woman 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: signed to OVL Music period period of Obo music. But 31 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: you're so talk to me about just kind of growing 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: up and Rotterdam Am I saying it right, Yeah, okay, 33 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: Radadam in the Netherlands and what that was like and 34 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: how you got into there there. 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: Ronaldam is a I mean, it has some similarities to 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: New York in a small way, like microwave, but it's 37 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: it's a city, a really cool city, a lot of 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: culture there, very diverse. And oh yeah, I was young 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: and and I grew up in a family with a 40 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: lot of like musicians, singers, dancers. So it was kind 41 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: of in the blood, in the blood and in the 42 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: stars that I was going to do that. And yeah, 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: pretty young, I started to do musical theater while I 44 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: was doing trek and field as well. For a while 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: I was I thought I was doing the Olympics like 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: in the future. No, for real, like I was serious 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: about it. And then I had to make a decision. 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: And so when I was like fourteen years I decided 49 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: to do musical theater. 50 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: What a hard decision to have to make What made 51 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: you say that was the way you were going to 52 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: sway toward? 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: I think, you know, being an athlete. I have the 54 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: utmost respect for athletes. It's a different type of life 55 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: you have. It's very restricted, where when you're an artist 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 3: you can create it. Yeah, I can be a little 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: bit more fun, I guess, but it was a hard one. 58 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: I cried, like I was actually going to be in 59 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 3: like the national team, so it was yeah. I was. 60 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: Also I think, you don't know what's going to happen. 61 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: It's kind of like you were going to be in 62 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: the national team, so you knew that could happen, but 63 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: then this was more of a risk. 64 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah it was. Yeah, I mean I don't know, Like 65 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: I was very determined and I knew from a young 66 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: age and what I wanted to do was what I 67 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 3: was going to do. And I think when you're younger, 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: you're a little bit more like, yeah, I'm going to 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 3: do that, So when you're getting older, you get a 70 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: little insecure and whatever. But at that age, I was like, 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 3: all right, well I'll just you know, become a singer. 72 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: And then I did, thank you, but yeah. 73 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: You have such a powerful voice too, and I can't 74 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: even think. When Jordan and I were talking, I was like, 75 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: who could I even because you know how whenever you're 76 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: a singer and people you know reminds me of X, 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: Y and Z, there's not a lot that I could say. 78 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: No. Yeah, I mean it's low register, so I think 79 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people always you know, have their their 80 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: say and like there, but yeah. 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a I mean, that's a good thing right 82 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 2: now signing to OVO And I know, I know you've 83 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: probably told this story a million times, but even how 84 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 2: that happened because Drake reached out to you personally on 85 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: the DM, Yeah, did you think it was real? Because 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you get reached out to and people 87 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: are like I always hear stories again, but being like, 88 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: oh that wasn't. 89 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: I yeah, well, I was like, you know, the first 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: thing he said was about the music and that he 91 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: was going to listen to it, and I was like, 92 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 3: all right, you know, let's see, he must be so busy. 93 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: So but he did. He came back to me and 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: that followed up with like a meeting with like the 95 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 3: whole team, and then I was like, okay, yeah, this 96 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: is legit, Like I want to do this and I think, 97 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: you know, it's it's great to have something behind you 98 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: that can push you in a direction or whatever. I 99 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: was already doing so much by myself though, like I 100 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: didn't have a label, didn't have management at the beginning, well, 101 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: doing so many things myself. But it's always great to 102 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: see like people want to support you. 103 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: How did he even see your music to reach out 104 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: to say, I want to hear. 105 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: I think someone send it over to him or something. 106 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I asked him this, but the 107 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: answer was quite fake. 108 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: So I would say that having worked in the A 109 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: and R department before previously, yeah, A and I just 110 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: really love to find people that people aren't bidding over 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 2: yet already, and so what they want to do is 112 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: find somebody that has super talent that can be a star, 113 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: but isn't already. 114 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: Like yeah, maybe yeah, I mean he was complimenting me 115 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: on like the music that I made, which I have 116 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: three songs out, they reached a lot of people though. 117 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: It was really interesting because I released that independently. 118 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: Were there people like was there other people reaching out 119 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: also to Yeah? 120 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I've had people reaching out to me. 121 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: I've had labels reaching out to me at the time, 122 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: and I don't know, this felt felt right, you know. 123 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: And what happened in that initial meeting with the whole team. 124 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: It was it was kind of like getting to know 125 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 3: them and see how they work. And what I liked 126 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: about it is that they kind of like they have 127 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: space for their artists to create this own world. And 128 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: also they kind of expect you to be someone who 129 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: can do it by themselves in a way, you know 130 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: what I mean, Like you can't really you have to 131 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: rely on your on your own label always, like that's obvious. 132 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: But at the same time, you have to be your 133 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 3: own like company, right, It's like it's your business. Yeah, 134 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: so you better like put everything in that and make 135 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: sure that you get it across the line. 136 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that, because sometimes people think that 137 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: as an artist, I'm assigned to a label and they'll 138 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: do everything and something to work. But I think the 139 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: most valuable thing to do is act like you're not signed. 140 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: And yeah, they probably appreciated the fact that dependently, yeah, 141 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: you are already handling business and making things happen on 142 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: your own. 143 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: But look, I always, I say always, this one thing 144 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: that I think is really important. I think what I 145 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: want is I want people to run as hard or 146 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: harder than me, Like the pace is fast with me, 147 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: Like I want to accomplish something, and I'm always looking for. 148 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 2: Like and you're a teck star, it is definitely like 149 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: yeah no, but like I'm definitely always looking for the 150 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: next thing to do to reach more audience or like 151 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: it's it's an ongoing thing. 152 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: You can be lazy, right, So but I then I 153 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 3: need a team behind me that is doing the same thing. 154 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: It's it's important to have this cohesiveness with everyone who 155 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: is involved, right And I think if you can find 156 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: that as an artist, you're good to go. But you 157 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: still have to work. You still have to. 158 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Work, and you've been putting into work. 159 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,239 Speaker 2: Yes, I saw your performance to the Miss That song 160 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: on the Edison Award. 161 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was amazing. 162 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: And then the video also came out, So tell me 163 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: how that feels to be like on that because that's 164 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: a big award show and to be on that stage. 165 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: And then I had the video come out, and I 166 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: know you've already had out a project and an EP 167 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: before that, but it feels like it's. 168 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: No, it's new, It's like it's a new era. I'm 169 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 3: really glad that I'm out of that freaking late extress, 170 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: Like I couldn't move with that on stage. I was like, 171 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: it looked fine. 172 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 5: Did you have to boil yourself in to get it? 173 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: Yeah? So I have to loop myself like it's it's 174 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: insane like that right right womb Like it was beautiful, 175 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: but like it was so limited and anyway, so I 176 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, we're gonna do this different. Also, I 177 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: want to dance like the music that is coming out 178 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: soon on the album is much more in that like 179 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: up tempo. Yeah, world, I would say, And it was 180 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: so fun to do, Like a TV show like that, 181 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm addicted to, like the more the better, right Yeah. 182 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: But like I think I talked to someone about this 183 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: and they were asking me if I like to perform 184 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: for like a small crowd or a big crowd, and 185 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 3: I'm like, give me fifty thousand people like tonight, tonight, 186 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: I want it. You know it's nice. It's like I 187 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: had it with Track and Field as well. If there 188 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: were people watching, I would run faster. 189 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's not that I do you get nervous 190 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: or do you feel like no? 191 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: The funny thing is that was the first time that 192 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 3: I got nervous because I had to dance and I 193 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: haven't been doing that for a long time for the audience, 194 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: because I had you know, I did that the musical 195 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: theater that I did Tut Turner was insane. Yeah that 196 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 3: was you saw the show. 197 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: I saw that. That's Hi and dance energy. 198 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 3: She was, oh yeah, and just kind of tilted. Yeah. 199 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 200 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: So so that was like the first time I was 201 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: I was nervous. But for singing, I'm not nervous, which 202 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 3: is funny. But it has to do with like doing 203 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: the linking for like three years for sure. 204 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: It's kind of like, yeah, you really have had all 205 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: the training to be able to do this. 206 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I have so much fun. Like it's when 207 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: it was over, I was like again, Okay, I want 208 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: to do it again. It's fun, Yes. 209 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: A good thing when it's because it is really still 210 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: a jab, but it's a jab that you love, yeah, 211 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: you know, and it's it's a passing. 212 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: I know. 213 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: I probably you probably feel like you want to make 214 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: sure you keep that excitement going too, because and. 215 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 3: I'm grateful as well, like I'm practicing bad more, you 216 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like these sometimes these moments are 217 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: so like fleeting, you're exhausting, and then you're like all right, 218 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: next and right now, I'm like, no, actually, that was 219 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: such a beautiful opportunity. Yes, you know, and then I 220 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: extend sealed by that and I'm like, okay, you know. Next. 221 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 4: Time I really liked about your song is that I 222 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 4: feel like people mis interpret it, or not misinterpreted, but 223 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 4: think it's automatically like a love song yeah, or missing 224 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: someone yeah. But it's like it is that moment where 225 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 4: you know you're in it and you're like, oh my god, 226 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 4: it's about to be over, and you're just enjoying it 227 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 4: and soaking it up so much and that and I 228 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 4: feel like I have a lot of those moments. 229 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 5: I do so reflective and just like like good yeah for. 230 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: You, Like I think, no, good for you. Actually, so 231 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: many people can do that. They're just like okay, like 232 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: onto the next thing. I remember I had my first 233 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: billboard here on Times Square and I saw it and 234 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: I was like all right, anyways, and I was like what, Yeah, 235 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: you just kind of gloss over it. Yeah, can you 236 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 3: do that too? Like the young girl that I once 237 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: was that was screaming if that was her real? 238 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing feeling and yeah, we have to hold 239 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 2: on to that. Yeah, that type of like being just 240 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: grateful and thrilled and appreciative and that wow, I can't 241 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 2: believe this moment, right, Yeah, even and you talked about 242 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 2: this so and missed that, and then we're gonna talk 243 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: more about the upcoming music too. But yes, Jordan's She's 244 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: had a lot of those moments of I think sometimes 245 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: people think that women are the ones that can't let 246 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 2: something go right, Like they think that we can't hit 247 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: it and. 248 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: Quit it funny and. 249 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: Be okay with stepping away and being like I'm gonna 250 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: miss that, but peace. 251 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: I think you know what, actually, if we're talking about 252 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: like relationships, I think we as women, there's a known 253 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: thing when we're in a relationship and we're not happy. 254 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: We know that four years prior, and and we try 255 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 3: and try and try and try, and then when it's done, 256 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 3: it's done, and so you don't miss that. 257 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so we're already getting over it while. 258 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: We like, all right, well that was great, thank you. 259 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, And I think maybe that's that's also something 260 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: that we do in general, because we're like emotional creatures 261 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: that maybe in a moment we have this like intense feeling, 262 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 3: but then when it's gone, it's gone because. 263 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: When that window closes, window closes, is not opening back. 264 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 2: I think that for us, we like heal and then 265 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: we're able to move on, and men kind of move 266 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: on and then they try to hear water and then 267 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: they end up coming back because they never really got 268 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: over it because they didn't deal with it. Yes, you know, 269 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: while we're like crying, eating ice cream, talking to our 270 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: girls depressed. 271 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, okay, I'm right, yeah, alright, Now. 272 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: I do want to talk about some of the music 273 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: that I've had the pleasure of hearing. 274 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh okay, was it ever love Baby? 275 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: Because we're tut it right now. Yes, we're talking about 276 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: it right now now. 277 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: Listen. 278 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: I wrote down a couple of lyrics from it that 279 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 2: I felt like, Wow, I tried to hold my breath, 280 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: I try to argue less. Even quiet moments feel like 281 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm screaming. And I wanted you to change. When I 282 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: tell you what woman hasn't been through that When you're like, 283 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, you just said, I'm trying, I'm trying, and 284 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: then you're screaming even though you're quiet. 285 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: And then it's done. Yeah, and then it's done. 286 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: I yeah, And I think we do make the mistake 287 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: of trying to change. 288 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: Well, okay, so let's let's be accountable as well, right, 289 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: because it's always like the man or like you're the partner, 290 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: woman whatever. I think that we choose people from our 291 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 3: like it's a pattern. We what we know. Sorry, I 292 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: think I think people in general. I think people in 293 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: general have this because it's like it's a known thing 294 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: as human beings do, like what we know. We tend 295 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 3: to attract or we want that again because that's the 296 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 3: only thing we know. And then once you are waking 297 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: up from that, you're like, hold on, this is the 298 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: fourth person that does this to me. You can't just 299 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: blame it all on them. It's like you are doing 300 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: this and you're like, yeah, like me being in a 301 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 3: relationship that I was unhappy and I was staying in 302 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 3: that relationship because I thought I could change someone. It's 303 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: not fair to that person. 304 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: That's a mistake that we make when we think we 305 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: can mold somebody. Yeah, but we think they tell us 306 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: one thing, but they mean another. 307 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: No, Yeah, they told you exactly. 308 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: How they act. 309 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 310 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: I just thought those were so power. 311 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 2: It's just such a powerful like yeah, and like you said, 312 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: accountability is in there also, What what is it about 313 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 2: that you've done that you felt like you've done over 314 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: and over again that you had to be accountable for? 315 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: Hmmm? I think staying too long when it's done. Yeah, 316 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: you know that's not that's not fair to the other 317 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: person as well. I think it's because of fear, you know, 318 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 3: of losing someone. It's it's it's comfortable, right, even the 319 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: uncomfortable part is kind of like comfortable and can be 320 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: addictive in a way. 321 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: And how do you know when it's over? Then, like, 322 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: how do you know I should have left? What are 323 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 2: some things? 324 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: It's just it's it's a feeling. I think we all 325 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: know this feeling that you're like and then you're gonna 326 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: try and repair it. And then what I want to 327 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: get better in is not to repair it anymore. Right. 328 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: I want to say this though. 329 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: I think sometimes people act like if you don't work 330 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: on it, you didn't try hard enough. Because there's also 331 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 2: that where people are like, oh you didn't even try. 332 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: Oh you know, there's always people. 333 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: You're not twenty years old anymore. 334 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: Because I see. 335 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: People holding women account but well, he cheated, but he's 336 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: sorry or he did this. But you can't just like 337 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: try to work through it. You can't go to therapy, 338 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: you can't do X, Y and Z. You can't just 339 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: give up. And sometimes as women, we feel like, but 340 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: what are you going to do? Go be with somebody 341 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 2: else and do the same thing with a new person. 342 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 3: That's well, there are good people out there. I will 343 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: have to realize that that it's not like you're the 344 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: ones you're attracting. Is not like the world, right, There 345 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: are good people out there and we all have to 346 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: learn things. I'm not saying that like I think also 347 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: and this speaks to me as well, but like when 348 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: you get out of relationship that was toxic, you're like 349 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: never again, right, and then your tolerance is low and 350 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: you're the way you're communicating with someone is kind of 351 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: like hiden it etchy because it's like, nope, we're not 352 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: going to do that anymore. Where you still have to 353 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: be open to someone that wants to grow with you. 354 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: You don't have to settle for like the you know 355 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 3: less than bare minimum, or like someone cheating on you. 356 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 3: And we all have our different like stories and why 357 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 3: we stay with each other, Like, I'm not going to 358 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 3: judge on that, but I do think that you know 359 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: what's healthy and what's not right. I'm just not twenty 360 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: years old anymore. I want to have a family in 361 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: the future, so I'm not going to settle for something 362 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: that is just like whatever. Like then you know, I 363 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 3: wish you the best and I'll move on. 364 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 2: What would you say about the guys in Rotterdam because 365 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 2: I've never been there. 366 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 3: It's funny, funny, funny, all right, And if you see 367 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 3: this the preface, if you see this, like change your 368 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 3: ways because you know the moment I came here different 369 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: in culture, but gentle men not really, it's rare, very rare. 370 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 5: So what do they like do they don't open doors? 371 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: No, it's like it's very rare. I don't know, Like 372 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: maybe again, maybe I was in like a bad environment 373 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: or something. I don't want to say every man in Rotterdam, like, 374 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to say that, But in the Netherlands 375 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: it's not really a thing. Where in America you guys 376 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 3: have a lot more like manners. Wow, which is interesting, right, 377 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: but no, you do actually. 378 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: You do that because I always think Americans are like rude, right, 379 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 2: and that how would think people look at Americans like 380 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: we're rude. 381 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: No, Europeans can be rude too, Like every everyone can 382 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 3: be rude. Yeah, But like I think, I don't know, 383 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: just men in general here, I feel like they have 384 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 3: manners more than and especially when they're from like a 385 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 3: region like the South or whatever. Yeah. Son kind of 386 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: like it when they're saying men and like yeah, yeah, 387 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: I know, ye yes, ma'am. Yeah no, but yeah, it's different. 388 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 3: It's different. But I don't know, Like I don't know. 389 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering because I'm like, what is it right? 390 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: Damn man like that? You know. 391 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 3: So we have beautiful people, I would say, we have 392 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: beautiful people in the Netherlands or it's diverse, like mixed. 393 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 3: Everyone is mixed, so beautiful, beautiful, special people and you 394 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: know they're they're great. 395 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: How is living in la culturally for you? 396 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: Now? 397 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 3: It's very different from the Netherlands, but I kind of 398 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 3: I don't mean I can adapt. I do still have 399 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: my my my Dutch. Like I think, like I'm down 400 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: to earth. I would say, I don't want to disrespect 401 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: anyone from LA. I think that native people from l 402 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: A are very down to earth. I think that people 403 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: that come in there and try to do Yeah. That's 404 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 3: sometimes where I'm like, all right, guys, I know it's 405 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 3: one big network work party. I get it, but like 406 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: right now, yeah, right now, I just want to watch 407 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: the movie, like we don't have to. I don't know. 408 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 3: Sometimes I lie about what I do because I don't 409 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: want to have like, oh I do this and this, what. 410 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: Do you say you do? It's a good lie. 411 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 3: It's a bad lie because I started to say like 412 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: I'm a hairstylist and like that's stupid, Like that's a 413 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 3: good one. Actually, I don't know. I was just like 414 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 3: and now I something. Sometimes I say like, well, I'm like, uh, 415 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 3: I work in like the creative field. That's so I 416 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 3: should say like it t But I don't know. I 417 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 3: don't want to do that because then they're gonna talk ID. 418 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know what's the good thing to say? 419 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: When does if somebody asks you and I'm in between jobs. 420 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 3: Something like that's a good one. Actually, let's let's come 421 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: up with this, because. 422 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: Like I'm an engineer or something in science. I like no, no, no, 423 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 4: that's that's and then ask you to say something until 424 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 4: beags too much like that that you'd be given away. 425 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: Oh right, dog, my dog, my dog. 426 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 2: No, okay, but that's I can I can see that though, 427 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: because people say that about La. 428 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: Now you've been in New York too, What do you 429 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: think about New York? Love? Okay? 430 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: I love like how people are down to earth here. 431 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 3: It's really similar to Rotterdam, I would say. Okay, mentality 432 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: sometimes a little harsh, but I can I can see, 433 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 3: I get it. 434 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: And the men are rude here too a little bit. 435 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: I think people right here in this city they don't 436 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: take like the pool yeah, you know, like there and 437 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 3: I kind of like that. Yeah. 438 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 5: Our patience level is ye, like yeah, it's real. 439 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 3: Also, I think you know, one thing I would say 440 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 3: about this side of the world. I think we in 441 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 3: Europe we have it like, we have a good life. 442 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 3: We don't have to struggle as much as you guys do. 443 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 3: And so sometimes that attitude is also something that I'm like, 444 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 3: I get it, it's fine. I don't think I'm not 445 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 3: going to take it personal. 446 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: Like, I get it. You don't have health insurance, right, no. 447 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. What I do want to say is that the 448 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: tipping culture here. 449 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: Oh right, because they don't tip. 450 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's I guess we sit here. 451 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: That's so funny, and you guys don't really have that 452 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: as part of. 453 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: No, because people get paid right first. 454 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: You once and these women were at the table next 455 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: to me and I think they were from like Sweden 456 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: or something, they said, and they asked me about tipping 457 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: because they they don't tip, so they were asking me, 458 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: like what are they they? 459 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: I guess they had gotten. 460 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, a crazy bill maybe, or they. 461 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: Just didn't understand it, like what am I? I'm like, well, 462 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 2: we normally leave a tip. I was trying to explain 463 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 2: it to them because it is like a very here. 464 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 5: So you're right, yeah, that's true. 465 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: But it's so funny that it's put on other people 466 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 3: to take care of each other. Which I'm not like 467 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: against like taking care of each other, but it's kind 468 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: of wild, like if I pay for what if I 469 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: have one hundred dollars, that's it, and then I have 470 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 3: to pay one hundred and fifty because I have to 471 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: pay for someone sloan With all due respect, but it's 472 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 3: it's what about at me? Hello? No, Like you know, 473 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: I have a good life, but for other people, you know, 474 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: like if you don't have that, then it's it's a lot, 475 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 3: but I don't know, like you know, and what I 476 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: don't like about it is that if you are getting 477 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: a tip and that's how it works in Europe you're 478 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 3: a good waiter yeah, or a waitress yeah, when you're 479 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 3: not giving the tip they want and I'm like, excuse you, 480 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: and then. 481 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: You end up on social media like Nami sham Yeah. 482 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: Now, like I'll leave you a tip, but also just work, 483 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 3: be happy, like you know, yeah, do the job. 484 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah you earn a tip. It's not supposed 485 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: to be. That's what still right, Yeah, it is still 486 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: like the hospitality of it. And I love when somebody 487 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: does a great job. 488 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: And I, yes, I love me too, like especially on vacation, 489 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 3: like I that I love to give to people. Yeah 490 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 3: for sure, but show up right, do your job, do 491 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: your job. I get it. It's not yeah. 492 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 2: Now, I also saw you at the Telfar. I was 493 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: just telling Jordan's even before I knew that you had 494 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: went there that I love that store. 495 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love their clothes. 496 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: Not just their bad but I think people have to 497 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: understand their their clothes are amazing. 498 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, we're going in tomorrow. 499 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, tel Far is also so nice and so on 500 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 6: it because I think he's a true creative where he 501 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 6: really likes just the music that he likes. 502 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: For me meeting him, and he's such an icon of 503 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 3: like this like Rigin of America as well, right, like 504 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: he's he's he's like tell far and he did so 505 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 3: many things for the culture and he's such an interesting guy. 506 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 3: Like he comes in I meet him, he has these 507 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 3: glasses on with like a camera, Like, what do you 508 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 3: mean I haven't I've been filming might No, like he 509 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 3: bought it somewhere. I've been filming my life for like 510 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 3: five years now I'm making I'm like I love that. Yeah, 511 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: I love that. You're so like artistic and you're creative 512 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: and he lives in his own world. 513 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you see that, like because it's not just fashion. 514 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: It's like he has like a multi media company. 515 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 3: The way he does it. 516 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, are you documenting a lot of what you're doing 517 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: right now? 518 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: Because that's valuable for you too. 519 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 3: I try to do it more and more. I have 520 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: this really nice camera that I forgotten thenolence, but I 521 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 3: will get it back. And but yeah, I try to 522 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 3: do it more and more. It's fun to kind of 523 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 3: like watch it back. I missed that when when I 524 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: was younger. Yeah, my parents were filming it. It's always 525 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: good to see that. 526 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: And how has life changed or has it changed for 527 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: you after signing, because you know it's it is. 528 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: You're the first lady of Obo now. Yeah, yeah, I 529 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: feel like things are different, do you. 530 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 3: I think some things are different and some are not 531 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 3: because I'm still like working my ass off, and like 532 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 3: we said, like when you're signed to a label, it 533 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: doesn't mean that then you don't have to do anything anymore, right, 534 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 3: It's like I still have to work, so but beautiful opportunities, 535 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 3: you know. Touring with Tames was really nice yea. 536 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: And I want to say you and Thames are both 537 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: like I could slide from your music to her music. 538 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah nice, And that's. 539 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 2: Just even the way it sounds. It does have like 540 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 2: an Afro type of vibe to it as well. 541 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's great. He's amazing, beautiful and such a nice person. 542 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 3: So these things are are great, you know, and just 543 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: making a lot of music and meeting new people like 544 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: right now. The new album is executive produced by Jordan 545 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: from Modred and Jordan's Yeah, and that whole process was 546 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: just so special and dear to me. 547 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, how are your label mats? Like how do you 548 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 2: get along with them? Do you have you met most 549 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: of them? 550 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: I met most of them. We kind of everyone is 551 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 3: working hard, you know, everyone is busy, and so it's 552 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 3: not that we have dinner every week, right yeah? 553 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: But is it like studio link ups? 554 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 2: Like I think about other crews, like they'll be in 555 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: the studio this person, this person, like you know. 556 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think we have our like right now, 557 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: I'm like working with Jordan Yep. Sometimes we've moge in 558 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: the studio. Like that's kind of like my world. It 559 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: does make sense with the music as well, right, Like 560 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: it will be a fun crossover if me and Smiley 561 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: would make something, but like it's it, that's rep right 562 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: and so yeah, I think that's how it moves around, 563 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 3: Like we all find each other in different a different timing, 564 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: right Yeah. 565 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 2: And I know people ask you is Drake has Is 566 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 2: he going to have something on the album? 567 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 3: It's so funny that question because the answer is no, 568 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: but like no, but because I know people are going 569 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: to ask because you are on ovo and he yeah, 570 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 3: because he posts the music and history. Yeah, yeah to me, 571 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 3: it's important that I can show myself but also other 572 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 3: people that I can do this by myself. I don't 573 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 3: need a feature to get there. These are stepping stones 574 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 3: and they're really good, and of course I would be grateful, 575 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 3: but it's not like the number one priority for me. 576 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: Is that album done. 577 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: The album is done, Okay, my album? 578 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah right, I said, you're telling people text Paradise if 579 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: you want to hear. 580 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's done. 581 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, stealedn't delivered, so it's gonna come out very soon. 582 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: It's a vibe though, too, and I just feel like 583 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: it gives you, like the feels, it gives you the 584 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: you know. 585 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: The other song that's the standout is better Days. 586 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah you like that song? 587 00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. 588 00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: I love that song. 589 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: I haven't heard I don't have everything. 590 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: They just gave me a little couple of you know, 591 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: yeah nippets to be able to hear. 592 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 3: It's really good. It's as in sorry, well not sorry, 593 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to be argod but like, I really 594 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: love that song. Now. I just really loved that song 595 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: and I made it with Blush, amazing singer songwriter, and 596 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: we had some like working with her. It's just like 597 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: riffing off ideas, and then every time we're in the 598 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: studio it's like an hour or two hours and we 599 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 3: have a full song and better days, like she's so 600 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: good in like listening to your story and whatever, and 601 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: then you're creating the lyrics together and then that came along. 602 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: It's a very like, yeah, listen, you talk about healing 603 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: a lot. 604 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: Also, do you feel like you've do you feel healed 605 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: from past experiences? 606 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: And I mean it's good for the music too. 607 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: Journey of hearing your thoughts and what you've been going through. 608 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm way happier than I was, but 609 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 3: I think now I have to heal from that, right, 610 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: So I taking my time to taking the time and 611 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 3: also giving myself some grace that healing doesn't have to 612 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: happen over a week or a day or a night, 613 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: and I try to be kind to myself. 614 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, because better days and then worse days. 615 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's it's kind of like if you go 616 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: through a lot, and let's say you stay in a 617 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: relationship for a long time, you deal with things and behavior, 618 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 3: and then after that you're like, so is that love 619 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: or was that me? And like I said, you will 620 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 3: have to be accountable as well. I have to work 621 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: on myself as well. 622 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, now what is no Sleep in Paradise even mean, 623 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: I know it's open to interpretation, but for you, no. 624 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: For me, the title came after I had no sleep 625 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: after five weeks in like the studio, and I did 626 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: that to myself. By the way, I'm I'm my work 627 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: attic is pretty intense. But when I go in, I 628 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: lock in and we were running on like three hours 629 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: of sleep a day, which is insane. That is insane, 630 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 3: and we were kind of just on a high, like 631 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 3: on a high of like adrenaline and success that we 632 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: were experiencing through this whole process. And after that, I 633 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: was like, wow, it's so funny how how we like 634 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: romanticize our relationship with work, and especially as artists or creatives. 635 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: Were like, we subject ourselves to the most intense process 636 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: ever because we think that that's the best thing, and 637 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 3: then we look for a quick fix. And so no 638 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 3: Sleep in Paradise means like paradise to me? Is this 639 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: like artist world that I'm in right, Like from the 640 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: outside it looks beautiful. Like so many people, I have 641 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: these ideas about being a celebrity or like an artist, 642 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, honey, I still have to pay my rent, 643 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: like it's not yeah, no, it's not all that like and. 644 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: Then people do have these expectations and yeah, I also 645 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 2: expected to like post and like be everything and do 646 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: everything be in the studio. 647 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so and so like that whole paradise thing. And 648 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 3: I kind of made this like dystopian concept around it. 649 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: So you're going to see that like when I release it. 650 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 3: But quick Fix l A is known for that, Like 651 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: we're all on the copper peptides and things, and I'm 652 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 3: not against it, like I wouldn't look good too, But 653 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: it's funny how we do it, like we we tire 654 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 3: ourselves and then we're like, oh no, I want to 655 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: have an ivy Dripp's even really work because they do. 656 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I feel different or if 657 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm the same, Like I just can't tell. 658 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 3: I like it. 659 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 4: I like getting them right before I can feel I'm 660 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 4: getting a cold. I feel like it saves me from 661 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 4: the cold every time, or if I really am am 662 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 4: just like drained, it will give me the vitamins and 663 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: that hydration that I don't have. 664 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: Are you big on supplements? I need to be better. 665 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: I take I take vitamins every day, supplements every every day. 666 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 3: Okay, so that's good. Yeah, I'm not so good. So 667 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 3: I found a way. I was in aern and I 668 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 3: and I found this like mineral like dropper and has zinc, magnesium, 669 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 3: all these things. I'm like, yeah, like I just want 670 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: to have something that I can put in my drink 671 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 3: and yeah, that's what I need, right, So I bought 672 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 3: that and I'm sold. Yeah it works. You can feel 673 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 3: the magnesium they have the electrolyzed the magnesium. It just 674 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 3: puts me to bad. I'm relaxed. 675 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: I have magnesium gummies at home and I take to 676 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 2: go to Yeah, isn't it good? And I sleep so good? 677 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: And you don't feel graggy when you make it up. 678 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: You just feel like okay right now. It was like 679 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: a nice smooth like but you know, like. 680 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 3: We were, we need that. Like a lot of people 681 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 3: don't realize that based on your mood and whatever. It's 682 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 3: like food where you put inside your body is so important. 683 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you can't sleep for three hours a 684 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 2: night and then go right. So that's why I was like, 685 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 2: well after that, I was on edge and I was like, 686 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: all right, but you also do a great job of 687 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: staying in shape and working out. And I know you've 688 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 2: also done martial arts. Tell me about that and. 689 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: Why that was a decision. 690 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 3: It's still it's passed right now because I have my nails, 691 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 3: but I love martial arts. The decision came after I 692 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: had a moment on the street where someone put his 693 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: hands on me. Wow, when he was asking the way 694 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, in the moment itself, 695 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna tell 696 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: him where it is. And I was not anxious. I'm 697 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: not really like that, but I can. It was definitely 698 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: a lot and so when that happened, I remember I 699 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: was so mad. I had so much rach in me. 700 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 3: And you know, as a woman, we're subjected to a 701 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 3: lot of that. I think unfortunately, there are people and 702 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 3: men that can I don't know, they're just like they 703 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 3: have a problem with just keeping it in, you know, 704 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 3: or or keeping their hands to themselves. And I was like, 705 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: that rage needs to be I don't know, put into somewhere. 706 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: I need to know. If that happens, I'm a drop 707 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: kick him. 708 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 3: In the throat. Well, what's funny, because that was my 709 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 3: that that was my first initial thought then, but later 710 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 3: on you're gonna learn that you don't know what you're 711 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 3: gonna encounter, like you never know. You think you might, 712 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 3: you know, handle that guy or a person, or you 713 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 3: never know, so you kind of handle with I think 714 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 3: martial art comes to a lot of discipline and respect 715 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 3: and also knowing that you have to walk away from 716 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 3: a situation first. You don't want to end up around. 717 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 3: And I did boxing, kickboxing or tie boxing and brazil 718 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: In jiu jitsu. If I can recommend a martial art 719 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 3: to women, Brazilian. 720 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: Jiu jitsu, Oh wow, okay, yes good, if. 721 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 3: You're ever in a situation, I think it's really important 722 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: to know what you have to do on the ground 723 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 3: or like to protect yourself. 724 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: And you took it very seriously, like not just I 725 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: was competing. Yeah, I love that for you and even 726 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 2: but I do want to say I'm sorry that that 727 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: happened to you. Yeah, yeah, you know that's awful and 728 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 2: nobody should have to experience that. I want to say, 729 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that happened, but it led you on a 730 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 2: path of. 731 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I understand more and I understand more about 732 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: my rage as well. Sometimes it's I think a lot 733 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 3: of women have that. You know, it's you have this 734 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 3: like thing and you don't want that to come out ever, right, 735 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 3: that's dangerous. 736 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 2: So well we're trying to control that. Yeah, we're trying 737 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: to act like everything's okay. 738 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: No. Yeah, but I think one thing is really good 739 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 3: if you can walk around with like security, like just 740 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 3: like in yourself, within yourself, I think that also affects 741 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 3: how people approach you. I'm not saying that it will 742 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 3: be much different, but you knowing that you can do 743 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 3: something is a really good power, right you can have 744 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 3: And I can told myself if I have yes, and 745 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 3: I hope that no one gets into that, or if 746 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 3: you listen and you had gone into that, I'm sorry too, 747 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 3: like it's it's not nice. But yeah. 748 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: And I also and even just as far as the 749 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 2: fitness aspect and the therapy and the I'm sure a 750 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 2: meditative aspect of working out and feeling better about yourself 751 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: and strong. 752 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 1: Being strong is a great feeling. 753 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, which is interesting because I think a lot 754 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 3: of times, even on social media, I see people react 755 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 3: to my body being like oh my god, like you're 756 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 3: so big, or like are you a man or whatever. 757 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 3: And I'm like, since when do women have to be petite? Like, 758 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 3: if you are, that's great, but I think, like I 759 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 3: love my strong body. 760 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you look amazing. You say, he's not 761 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 2: in here right now, but are board up? We're not 762 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: tell them you were coming. There's a picture of you 763 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 2: that's so viral. He's like, yeah, this is the picture 764 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: a picture. 765 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 3: We asked him. 766 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: And he was like yes. I was like, all right, 767 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: calm down. But now that I know you, could you know. 768 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, But I think it's so important to 769 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 3: just like be good in your body. For me, that 770 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 3: means that I go to the gym every now and then. 771 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: Look at it and I'm like I want to like yeah, 772 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: like I need to go to to go. 773 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: Some class, but also something something. But also i'm you know, 774 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 3: like if I if I A lot of people are like, oh, 775 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 3: what is your your your gym like your workout thing, 776 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 3: and I'm like, it's also genetics, like my dad his 777 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 3: body is you know, he's Caribbean. Like it's a bill too, what. 778 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: Part of the Caribbean because I know you're a Caribbean. 779 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 3: And yeah, he's born in a Ruban Okay, But the 780 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 3: family is from Saint Martin. 781 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: When I get out of here, what do you mean 782 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 1: the Dutch side? 783 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 2: No, I mean his Oh okay, Saint Martin though, because 784 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 2: I know there's the French side and the dead side. 785 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 3: Oh the Dutch there, yeah, so French English side side. 786 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I love Saint Martin. 787 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never been. 788 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: What listen you said the girl, you have got to 789 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: go there. That's one of my favorite places. 790 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 3: I know, I have to. 791 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 1: I have to go because I have no reason. 792 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: You were love it, I know, but I didn't know. 793 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 3: So first of all, my grandma rests in peace. She 794 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 3: was five years ago. She was like, now you're not 795 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 3: you're not from a Ruba. Like, that's not I'm like, 796 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: what do you mean, it's not a thing. That's not 797 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 3: a thing. I was like, what do you mean. She's like, well, 798 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 3: your dad was born there, but we're all from Saint Martin. 799 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: So I know this. 800 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 3: For like five years, I've been to a Ruba and Cursel. 801 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: Okay, that's beautiful, that's beautiful. 802 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: But I have to go to Saint Martin. 803 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: Now, I got listen, he knows, I'm like, I go there. 804 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. 805 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 806 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 3: A couple of times ago a lot of Americans go 807 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 3: to that part. It's so funny. 808 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: Even a Ruba, right, like it's yeah, yeah, people love 809 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: a Ruba, but I do love same. 810 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 2: And the British Virgin Islands and the US Virgin Islands 811 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: are like some of my favorite places to go. 812 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: I'm going the same time. It's at the end of 813 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: the month. 814 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 3: Wow for you when you are you carebban? 815 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: Yes, my mom is Caribbean, she's from she's from Manserrat, 816 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: but it's a really small, small yeah yeah. 817 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: And then my dad's Chinese. 818 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, what a beautiful what are you. 819 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 4: We've been in America all four hundred years. I fear 820 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 4: we run the first boat over and I don't. 821 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 3: We're American. 822 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 5: That's down to the boat. 823 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yes. Well, when I did my blood test, yeah, 824 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 4: it actually said that I was Scandinavian, that I'm Scandinavian 825 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 4: and Nigerian. 826 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, wow, And do you know any of your lineage, 827 00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 3: like you. 828 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 5: Know, you know what ironically just said. At one point 829 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 5: it just said Viking. I was like, oh, oh, so 830 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 5: that could be a couple of different places. 831 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 3: It's so funny. 832 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 5: And then it said Scandinavian. 833 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so it still hasn't like broken down into 834 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 4: yeah Scandinavia. 835 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: No, I don't know. I was joking, but it was real. 836 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 5: It's real. 837 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 3: Yep, yep. No. I the other day at sol Far, 838 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 3: someone came up to me and he's like, are you Viking? 839 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what do you mean? 840 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: Right right? 841 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, I I mean I know a 842 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 3: little bit of my heeritage, like but yeah, like I 843 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 3: know that they're Irish, they're black Irish people. 844 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, my family in Man, there's a lot of people. 845 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: They call it the Emerald Isle because a lot of 846 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 2: Irish settlers. Yeah, but yeah, Passions Day is their biggest holiday. 847 00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, See my last name, Webster is Irish. 848 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So look as we got into all kinds of things, 849 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: I know, conversation. 850 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 851 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: So when you got your tattoo, which was extensive, you 852 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,160 Speaker 2: said you talked for like seven hours before even getting started. 853 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. Sorry, I were that wrong because the session was 854 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 3: seven hours. 855 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: I was like, dang, you got time. 856 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 3: No, no, no, this session was seven hours. But yeah, 857 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 3: I mean I was with him for seven hours. It's 858 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 3: a very personal thing that you do with him, because 859 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 3: he goes in with you only that day you talked 860 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 3: to him and then based on you know, your energy, 861 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 3: he does something intuitive. But I was in that room 862 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 3: for seven hours. So yeah, we talked for seven hours, but. 863 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: I was in pain. 864 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 2: I bet because that your tattoo is extensive. I know, 865 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 2: anybody listening, go and look it out and have a 866 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: chance to see. 867 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 3: Yes, but you left it. I love it, but it 868 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 3: was it was a very beautiful moment getting a tattoo 869 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 3: like this. Someone putting it on you, intuitively is a 870 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 3: very spiritual woman, even the pain, like enduring the pain. 871 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: And that's something you should have filmed because you probably 872 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: got all kind of gems. Yeah, next one, no kidding 873 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 2: that part. 874 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 3: Next lag. 875 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 5: Put the little blastes on that could record the whole thing. 876 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 2: Well, Naomi, thank you so much for joining us nicely 877 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 2: in Paradise, coming very soon, sooner than we think. 878 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and to tour anything, what are we doing? 879 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 3: We are definitely touring. 880 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah that's all I can say. 881 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,800 Speaker 3: I mean, no, I'm touring and maybe something earlier. 882 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 1: And uh, who knows, I don't know, Okay, who knows? 883 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: You know I know that I'm gonna tour. Okay, all right, Well, 884 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 1: thank you so much. 885 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 3: It's well