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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to my new timeslot, not going to be

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Speaker 1: new for that much longer. The Carol Markowitz Show now.

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Speaker 2: Airs Wednesdays and Fridays, so you can get this non

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Speaker 2: political podcast, The Carol Markowitz Show on Wednesdays and Fridays,

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Speaker 2: and then normally the political podcast I co host with

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Speaker 2: Mary Katherine Ham every Tuesday and Thursday. You only don't

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Speaker 2: get me on Mondays. My co author on my one

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Speaker 2: and only book, Stolen Youth, Bethany Mendel, is always causing

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Speaker 2: a ruckus online. She's been on this show and we've

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Speaker 2: talked about some of her attempted cancelations that people have

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Speaker 2: tried on her. Her latest one wasn't a cancelation exactly,

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Speaker 2: and she didn't trend, which is already big for her,

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Speaker 2: but seemingly out of nowhere, this writer guy James Hurwiki,

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Speaker 2: who wrote Wisdom of Crowds, he screenshotted one of her

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Speaker 2: tweets and caused a little flurry. So Bethany's tweet said this. Yesterday,

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Speaker 2: I was talking to my nine year old son and

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Speaker 2: asked him how many kids he wanted. He replied, well,

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Speaker 2: it's not up to me. It's my wife's choice. I

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Speaker 2: told him not ites not. You don't marry someone who

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Speaker 2: wants different things out of life than you. James had

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Speaker 2: a problem with this extremely obvious, at least to me, statement,

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Speaker 2: he responded, and again it was really weak the way

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Speaker 2: he screenshotted her tweet instead of just responding directly to her.

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Speaker 2: But you know whatever, but this is what he wrote.

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Speaker 3: One of the.

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Speaker 2: Interesting things about the right wing discourse on relationships is

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Speaker 2: the essential indifference to the idea of love. So if

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Speaker 2: Bethany's son is in love with a woman who doesn't

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Speaker 2: want the same number of kids as he does, he

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Speaker 2: should dump her. Someone else will come along. So there's

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Speaker 2: this insane idea, even among you know, seemingly grown up

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Speaker 2: people like James, that you're walking around living your life

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Speaker 2: and whoops, you've fallen into love. That's it's just not

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Speaker 2: how it works. And I love love. I'm all about love.

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Speaker 2: I've said many times on here that I think settling

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Speaker 2: is the absolute worst thing you can do. It's a

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Speaker 2: relationship killer. You will not have a happy relationship because

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Speaker 2: you went for good enough. You should be passionately in

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Speaker 2: love with your spouse, but love develops. One friend of

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Speaker 2: mine once described it as a door that you open,

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Speaker 2: you have to let it in. Another friend, when describing

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Speaker 2: another friend's allegedly casual situationship many years ago before it

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Speaker 2: was called such a thing, said that he had to

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Speaker 2: be careful because you may think it's nothing your situationship,

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Speaker 2: But intertwined toes have a way of making people feel things,

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Speaker 2: whether they want to or not. That intertwined toes thing

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Speaker 2: really stuck with me. There's a way that love happens.

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Speaker 2: If you want to have a big family and you

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Speaker 2: meet someone who wants to have no children, or one child,

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Speaker 2: or even two, don't continue dating them. Don't intertwine those toes. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's much harder to go pursue the life you want

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Speaker 2: for yourself after you've settled down with someone who wants

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Speaker 2: a different kind of life. So if you marry someone

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Speaker 2: who also wanted a big family and then two kids

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Speaker 2: in that they say that's it. Well, that's probably it, okay,

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Speaker 2: and that makes sense. You're not going to leave them.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to divorce them because oh, you wanted

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Speaker 2: a big family and it didn't work out. Things change,

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Speaker 2: But why would you get into a relationship with somebody

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Speaker 2: who wanted something completely different than you want before you're

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Speaker 2: in love with them. These are all questions that people

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Speaker 2: should be tackling upfront. I didn't want kids. I was

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Speaker 2: sure of it, and my best friend heard about it

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Speaker 2: for years and years. So when we started dating about

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Speaker 2: two weeks in, he said, I need to know do

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Speaker 2: you want kids? Because if not, I can't pursue this.

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Speaker 2: I was already so insanely head over heels in love.

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Speaker 2: I wanted his kids. I already wanted his kids. My

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Speaker 2: perspective on it had shifted completely, but look his head

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Speaker 2: not he knew what he wanted his future to be.

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Speaker 2: Love was nice and he was definitely already into me.

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Speaker 2: Please stopped and had the conversation. James continued to tweet

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Speaker 2: about this for days, talking about love like some AI

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Speaker 2: robot that had watched too many rom coms, but most

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Speaker 2: of the comments to his tweet sided with that crazy

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Speaker 2: right winger Bethany. If you know what you want your

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Speaker 2: future to look like, yes you should marry someone with

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Speaker 2: a similar vision. Love just isn't there on day one,

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Speaker 2: nor should it be. It develops, just don't go developing

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Speaker 2: it with someone who wants wildly different things than you do.

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Speaker 1: Back to the Carol Marcowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: My guest today is Lou Perez.

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Speaker 1: He is a comedian, producer and author of the book

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Speaker 1: That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore on the Death and Rebirth

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Speaker 1: of Comedy, which is now available in audiobook, which Lou narrates.

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Speaker 1: You may recognize Lou from his sketch comedy videos with

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Speaker 1: We the Internet TV and his series Comedy is Murder

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Speaker 1: with Free the People. Hi, Louth, thanks so much for

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Speaker 3: Oh it's an honor, Carol, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: You know, your bio doesn't mention the Gutfeld thing. You

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Speaker 1: are on Gutfeld all the time.

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Speaker 2: That's where I recognize you from there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been on. I've been on five five times,

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Speaker 3: and yeah, I don't know if Greg want to be

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Speaker 1: Well that this problem, he's already he's gone too far

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Speaker 1: with you. You guys have bought gone all the way.

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Speaker 3: You've been on his show, Well, yeah, it's such a

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Speaker 3: Every time I've been on the show, it's been a blast.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the reach that he has and the

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Speaker 3: fandom that he has all over the country is incredible.

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Speaker 3: I opened up opened for Rob's Night or on a

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Speaker 3: few gigs in Atlantic City and in Florida, and after

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Speaker 3: the show, people were coming up like, oh, I love

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Speaker 3: Guttfeld and I recognized you from there. So it's yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's been awesome being on his show.

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Speaker 1: So how did you get into comedy and were your

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Speaker 3: Well, I so I got into comedy in college. I

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Speaker 3: I want to try this improv comedy that I had

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Speaker 3: heard about. And my parents, you know, to their credit.

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Speaker 3: I have a dad who he's an immigrant from Argentina.

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Speaker 3: He didn't graduate high school. He was kicked out of

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Speaker 3: his sons the opportunity to pursue whatever we wanted, which

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Speaker 3: But also man, maybe a little direction with a of health.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, if like you know, if my

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Speaker 3: like you could you know, you could pursue comedy, but

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Speaker 3: maybe there's another thing, you know that you could do.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I also think about, you know, the

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Speaker 1: So it's funny because immigrant parents are usually much tougher.

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Speaker 1: And I had a Geed Pie. He was the former

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, of being educated. But yeah, like as

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Speaker 3: when it comes to, you know, the immigrant parents story.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what would you what advice would you give your

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Speaker 3: You know, I think one of the things I would

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Speaker 3: probably say to sixteen year old lou is to lighten

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Speaker 1: So what kind of comedy do you enjoy doing? Like,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I really enjoy doing doing stand up for sure.

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Speaker 3: Let's see right now, I really enjoy Kyle Dunnaghan. I

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Speaker 1: Where do you get your ideas?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my, you know, I never I never thought I

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Speaker 3: remember having a conversation with with Ryan Long, who's another

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Speaker 3: you know, really great comedian, and I had asked him, like,

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Speaker 3: you know, you have a worry about like kind of

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Speaker 3: being pigeonholed until I you know, political comedian and culture

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Speaker 3: wars and stuff, and he, you know, he kind of,

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, set me straight and made sense.

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Speaker 3: It's like, well, with comedy, you're you know, you're reacting

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Speaker 3: to whatever's going on, you know, and if this is

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Speaker 3: what's going on, well then that's that's where you're you know,

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Speaker 3: you're going to go. And I guess the challenge is

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Speaker 3: to just you know, make sure that you're keeping yourself

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Speaker 3: as I would even say honest, as original as you

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Speaker 3: could be, because be honest about how original this idea is.

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Speaker 3: You know, is this a hack idea that anybody can

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Speaker 3: come up with? Is are you you know, finding something

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Speaker 3: here that that's that really that really speaks from a

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Speaker 3: you know, a new place.

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Speaker 1: Do your NYU comedian friends still talk to you? It's hard, right,

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Speaker 1: Like I mean, when you when you get even a

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Speaker 1: little bit into politics, you lose people.

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Speaker 3: Well here, yeah, here's the thing. So I've been really

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Speaker 3: fortunate in that I've gotten to continue to work with

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Speaker 3: my like my longtime comedy partner Greg Burke. Greg and

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Speaker 3: I have been working together for twenty years wow. And

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Speaker 3: Greg has been an incredible collaborator, director, editor. So I'm

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Speaker 3: really fortunate that I've been able to sustain that relationship

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Speaker 3: and we've been able to make a career out of

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Speaker 3: it making this stuff. There are there are actually a

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Speaker 3: couple of you know, friends from n YU who I

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Speaker 3: am surprised still talk to me and in are like

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Speaker 3: and it's like the politics play absolutely no role, you know,

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Speaker 3: one like we may disagree on you know, on X,

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Speaker 3: Y or Z, but the relationship that we that we

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Speaker 3: have is such a is such a special one. And

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Speaker 3: you know, again it's like, you know, a twenty year relationship,

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Speaker 3: so we've been there or each other's weddings and our

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Speaker 3: kids being born and stuff. And I think I think

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Speaker 3: a lot of my I think a lot of comedians

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Speaker 3: who might be you know, traditionally on the left over

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Speaker 3: the past you know, few years, have really seen just

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Speaker 3: how toxic their own side could get, you know, So

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Speaker 3: it's really important to have sort of relationships that are apolitical,

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Speaker 3: that are based on well, just know, we love each

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Speaker 3: other and we've been through a bunch, So isn't that great?

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Speaker 3: Actually I had a uh and and I'm not naming

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Speaker 3: names so that I want to I want everybody to

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Speaker 3: be protected. But I had a I had I had

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Speaker 3: a friend, an old friend who we you know, connected

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Speaker 3: and had a really great time and uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: they wrote back, they emailed them. I emailed them and

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Speaker 3: just said, hey, you know, I love you so much

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Speaker 3: and so happy we're able to get together and you know,

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Speaker 3: do this. And they wrote back something like, well, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, I was a little worried about our politics

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Speaker 3: and you know, politics being so different and you know,

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Speaker 3: blah blah blah. And I was thinking like, man, had

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Speaker 3: no point did I ever think about our politics? But

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Speaker 3: with this particular person, you know, so the idea that

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Speaker 3: you know, whatever a political disagreement we have in their

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Speaker 3: head is dividing us. But I'm not a player. I'm

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Speaker 3: not a part in that, you know, right, And you know,

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Speaker 3: hearing that from it from an old friend, I was like, oh, man,

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Speaker 3: I wonder how many thinking that, how many friends are

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Speaker 3: thinking that? And man, like what a yeah, what a

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Speaker 3: what a what a terrible waste because I saw limiting. Right.

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Speaker 1: It's funny when you said about you know, comedians on

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Speaker 1: the left realizing that their sign.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of like right now post.

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Speaker 1: Election period, like from the left. We just needed Joe

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Speaker 1: Rogan for the left.

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Speaker 3: Like Joe Rogan was on the left, you had him right.

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Speaker 4: You had Joe Rogan for the left, and his name

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Speaker 4: was Joe Rogan, and you basically pushed him over to

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Speaker 4: the right because of your insanity. So I think I'd

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Speaker 4: love for comedians on the left didn't stay on the left,

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Speaker 4: but be able to like mock both sides fairly.

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Speaker 1: And you don't see that in places like SNL, for example.

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Speaker 1: It's very that when they're funny, and they're even when

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Speaker 1: they're mocking the right. I love that funny is the

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Speaker 1: key thing. Once you move to lecturing or to teaching

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Speaker 1: and you're not doing comedy anymore, I find that much

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Speaker 1: less enjoyable, even on the right. I'm saying, even if

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Speaker 1: it's like a comedian on the right doing it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I've been very fortunate in that, you know, those

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Speaker 3: the past ten years, you know, in particular, to be

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Speaker 3: able to work with, you know, people who you know,

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Speaker 3: who I disagree with, probably you know politically, but we're

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Speaker 3: able to come together to do the work. Yeah, And

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Speaker 3: I think that's really important. And also it keeps me

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Speaker 3: what was the term that the clunky term that I

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Speaker 3: came up with originally, honest honestors look like if something's

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Speaker 3: not working, you know, I have these people that I

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Speaker 3: know I could you know, I could look to who

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Speaker 3: are going to be honest with me? Right? Like? That

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Speaker 3: doesn't work? But maybe that's too inside baseball or or

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Speaker 3: you know, that's too you know, cartoonish of a you know,

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Speaker 3: of a character or something, and that's you know that

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Speaker 3: I think that that's.

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Speaker 2: Just so, Yeah, what do you worry about?

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Speaker 3: Uh, I'm a few things that I've been worrying about, mortality.

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Speaker 3: I think I've been worried about any particular turns out.

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Speaker 3: I really wish you didn't tell me that I've been.

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Speaker 3: I've been. Uh if I'm Russian, I say all the time,

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Speaker 3: like you wake up and you're like today could be

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Speaker 3: the day.

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Speaker 1: My kids are like, can you not talk about your

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Speaker 1: death every single day?

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, I've been. You know that that's crossed my mind. Uh.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm forty two, which still feels you know,

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Speaker 3: young to me, but you know, losing friends I am.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next week will be the anniversary of a

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Speaker 3: four year anniversary of of a friend who passed away.

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Speaker 3: It not too much older than than I was, as

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Speaker 3: my parents are you know, you know, getting older, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think about uh, I think about them,

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Speaker 3: and and then you know, with that, it's sort of

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Speaker 3: watching my own my own kids grow, you know in

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Speaker 3: a way. I mean, as they you know, change year

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Speaker 3: by year, it is like a little death when you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like, oh my god, this you know, where did

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Speaker 3: this little boy come from? When he was you know,

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Speaker 3: just a baby there. So yeah, you know, the mortality

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Speaker 3: is definitely a word. And then also I just want

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Speaker 3: to make sure that I'm you know, being the best

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Speaker 3: dad that I can be. They told you earlier. Having

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Speaker 3: the boys for four days by myself, there were quite

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Speaker 3: quite a few times when I failed throughout those four

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Speaker 3: days of being the type of dad or guy that

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Speaker 3: I that I wish I could be, you know, But

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Speaker 3: so I got I guess that that's an ongoing thing

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Speaker 3: to you know, to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that was a you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of a sad ending to a comedian interview. But okay,

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Speaker 1: like you know, you bring louperezon to be funny and

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Speaker 1: he tells us about death and about worrying about not

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Speaker 1: being a good dad. But I'll take it, you know,

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Speaker 1: I will take it.

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Speaker 3: That's like basically that's my I guess that's that's like

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Speaker 3: a one man show right there.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Kombe Russian. At any time, we could talk

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Speaker 1: about death, you know, in a really casual way constantly.

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Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta say one of my my friends

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Speaker 3: and collaborators, Boris Boris Hiken, He's a Ukrainian Jew from Odessa.

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Speaker 3: They curse a lot in Odessa? Do they curse a lot?

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Speaker 1: That's the that's the word.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, I could totally see that with with Boris

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Speaker 3: and yeah, like at his wedding, uh, I think like

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Speaker 3: four years ago I got to meet like, you know,

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Speaker 3: his Ukrainian side of the family, and they are huge

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Speaker 3: fans of my stuff and the stuff that we forget.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like I feel like, if if you know,

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Speaker 3: if there are any you know, marketing companies out there

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Speaker 3: branding lou Perez and Ukrainian.

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Speaker 1: Jews, that's via Jews, don't limit yourself to just ucrage.

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Speaker 3: I'll just say, these guys.

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Speaker 1: My mother's from Russia and my father's from Ukraine. They

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Speaker 1: would both find you hilarious.

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Speaker 3: There we are, there, we go, let's do let's do it,

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Speaker 3: you know, whatever we could do.

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Speaker 1: Well. I've enjoyed this so much, and here with your

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Speaker 1: best tip for my listeners on how they can improve

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Speaker 1: their lives.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what I would say is, look up this

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Speaker 3: exercise called the burpie, and the burpie is basically a

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Speaker 3: push up and after the push up you get to

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Speaker 3: your feet and you jump up into the air. And

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Speaker 3: it's for people who do like CrossFit, they know what

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Speaker 3: that is. And it's one of probably like the most

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Speaker 3: hated exercises because you know there's no equipment involved, it's

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Speaker 3: all body weight, and you know, you do five of

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Speaker 3: them and you start to feel it right away. So if,

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Speaker 3: if you know, if people want to improve their lives,

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Speaker 3: if you're even at the point where you can't do

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Speaker 3: a push up, work your way up where you're doing

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Speaker 3: one push up a day, and then get to the

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Speaker 3: point where one day you're doing one burpie a day,

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Speaker 3: and then work your way up and up and up,

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Speaker 3: and it's uh, it's it's free, and uh it'll have

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Speaker 3: a you know, a dramatic impact of your life. I

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Speaker 3: think love it.

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Speaker 1: He is Luperez. His book is that joke isn't funny anymore.

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Speaker 1: On the Deck and rebirth of comedy by it. He's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Follow him on all his socials and go see him.

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Speaker 1: Go see his shows, not the ones in Texas because

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Speaker 1: it'll be too late when this airs, but future ones.

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Speaker 3: Why not.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Lou, Thank you, thanks so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us on the Carol Marcowitch Show.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.