00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 00:00:17 Speaker 2: But you're a guest to my home. 00:00:21 Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guests, you're own presences. 00:00:29 Speaker 3: Presence and I already had too much stuff, So. 00:00:35 Speaker 2: How did you dare to surbey me? Welcome to? 00:00:49 Speaker 4: I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wineger. We're in the backyard. Of course, I don't know that. There's no easy way to say this. I'm an I'm in an incredible mood. I feel great. I'm ready to podcast. It's uh, we're just gonna do it. It's freezing cold. It's absolutely ice cold right now. The microphone is ice cold in my hand. Let's get into the podcast. I love today's guest. He's so funny. It's Dan Klein. Hello, Dan, Welcome to. I said, no gifts. 00:01:24 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me brid I was trying to you said I was funny, and I was going to try to be funny immediately, and I couldn't do it. I was like, I better introduce myself and say hi first. 00:01:32 Speaker 3: No. 00:01:32 Speaker 4: I think putting that pressure on yourself always leads to a big thing. 00:01:36 Speaker 2: It's good and healthy having that pressure immediately. You must be funny. 00:01:41 Speaker 4: You're just sweating, sweating, sweating, Yeah, you're here, I am you were you basically forgot about the podcast? 00:01:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess we have to talk about that. Really. I hope it doesn't put a damper on because I you know, look, I recognize people listening to this who is this guy? And then the first thing they learn about me is that I was so careless that I did forget that this was happening. I sped here, I did some questionable driving. Really not even that necessary because we don't live that far away. 00:02:13 Speaker 4: Are what part of town are you in? 00:02:15 Speaker 2: Beautiful Glendale, Califi? I love Glendale. I have a love hate relationship with it. You know, it's a little bit more suburban, a little bit you know, it's a great place to raise a family, which I'm doing I'm trying to do. We'll see how successful we are and we'll check back in eighteen years. You and I So far, so good. But I don't know what we're putting into the children right that's going to haunt us and then later but there will be something. But yeah, we're not far away. But yeah, different different vibes, What. 00:02:49 Speaker 4: Don't you like about it the suburban aspect of them. 00:02:52 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like you do get into your own little world. I think, like you don't have to leave it so much after the pandemic, and so I've done a great job of isolating myself in many ways that now when I have obligations for things to do which I should be excited about, it instead like spins me out of control and I'm like, oh my god, I have to interact with a human. What do I do? So maybe it's not Glendale as much as it is me. 00:03:22 Speaker 4: No, I think that's a lot of people. I mean, I think I'm a very or at least up until the last two years, was a very punctual person, and I feel that slipping because I'm not used to getting to places at the right time. I mean speaking of being rushing to the podcast and driving through traffic at high speeds. When your wife Kelly was on a few months ago, I did the exact thing. I She got that to the podcast before I did, and it's in my backyard. Okay, so I was speeding through town. Well, then I should reveal this was all a revenge process. Kelly was like, do not show up on time. 00:03:56 Speaker 2: Make him. Wait four minutes, it's time to teach this person a finally, this is the time of his life. By the way, I mean, I know no one can see. I'm sure you've talked about the beautiful like plants that you have back here. It actually makes it seem like and like with your sort of you know, southern accent, I feel like it should be hot. That's what it almost sounds like. You sound like you could be like a you know, southern. 00:04:21 Speaker 4: Lawyer who so I sound Southern to you? 00:04:24 Speaker 2: Almost? Yeah, But. 00:04:28 Speaker 4: Nobody nobody can my accent you have. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: Like what I would assume is like a what was it called Transatlantic like what movie stars did in the forties to like hide their disgusting accents. 00:04:40 Speaker 4: Where is any of this coming from? I don't understand what. It's just a lovely way I communicate. Is it's such a I need to elevate it. I need to seek an expert. I need to find like a voice expert, an accent expert. 00:04:54 Speaker 2: Yes, to just sit and they'll tell you where. It's like a DNA test but for your speech patterns. 00:05:01 Speaker 4: Send them my spit and they tell me where it comes from. 00:05:04 Speaker 2: That's what it sounds like. 00:05:05 Speaker 4: To other people, right and as and I've talked about this on the podcast before, but I, as far as I know, no one else in my family speaks this way. I don't know what's going on. Maybe there's something that. 00:05:16 Speaker 2: Does the family ever say, Like Bridger, what was that? 00:05:19 Speaker 3: Like? 00:05:20 Speaker 2: You're speaking like a Louisiana lawyer, Like it's again, it's. 00:05:24 Speaker 4: Very element just a small town. 00:05:26 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what it seems like. Now. Yeah, now, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I may not be fancy. I might whatever this lawyer says I'm in. 00:05:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I've got to get to the bottom of it. But I may never because my family hasn't. Yeah, my family has no idea, Like they've never noticed it because I lived with them. Yeah, what do they sound like like my family? I couldn't tell you. Maybe we have every member of the family come on the podcast and just do like a each reads the lazy. 00:05:55 Speaker 2: Dog yawn, fox jumped over the lazy dog. And what is the point of that sentence? Has all the letters or something? 00:06:02 Speaker 4: Sober? Yeah, if you say leaps loops over, then then you have every letter of And that's. 00:06:07 Speaker 2: The only sentence in the world that has it? Or like why do I know it? They couldn't go like this one's got it, but it has like it's not like it has every letter once. 00:06:16 Speaker 4: Oh that's yeah, that's what what what that sentence looks like I have. 00:06:19 Speaker 2: No but that's what they make it seem like. You're like what they did it? And it's like, oh no, they just threw in a bunch of words. 00:06:25 Speaker 4: They just made a long sentence. 00:06:26 Speaker 2: Yeah, some jerk. 00:06:28 Speaker 4: Eventually you're going to get every letter of the alphabet if you go long enough. 00:06:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like why did didn't we? I feel like I learned that in school? That sentence? Yeah, is it? 00:06:36 Speaker 4: Do you have to? Is it for typing? 00:06:38 Speaker 2: Maybe? 00:06:39 Speaker 4: Is it to get it? I don't know. Did you take a type in class? 00:06:42 Speaker 2: I sure did. I took a type in class. And it's a little bit sad to me. It's because it was in seventh grade right now. For me, in seventh grade, this was at the time when I had AOL instant messenger. Okay, this is how old are you? In seventh year? Twelve or tween? So I was born nineteen eighty four. Okay, so it's nineteen ninety six, right, wow, one a year WOA, great time. But so I'm at home typing with not like the proper way right and pecking. I'm hunting and pecking and I'm learning how to do it in school and then our assignment was to like type a letter, and the teacher was like, don't worry about it, just type however you want to type, and yeah, public school, and I like threw it all away, and to this day, I still hunt and peck. You still hunt a peck. I type with two fingers. 00:07:34 Speaker 4: You're a writer. 00:07:35 Speaker 2: I know it's really embarrassing. All scripts? 00:07:39 Speaker 4: Does it take? Does it take all? 00:07:40 Speaker 2: I could do it really fast? Okay, I think if anything, it looks horrifying because it is fast, but it's like it doesn't make sense right and certainly not proper. 00:07:49 Speaker 4: How are you beginning sentences with the capitalization or you do you hit capslock and then type the letter, then hit capslock again. 00:07:56 Speaker 2: The I think I either hit shift. I'm closing my eyes to imagine the keyboard, which I think I have down pretty well at this point. But it's like, how I it's my way, M a rebel. Yeah, I'm not going to do it your way, even though it's more efficient, and you were properly taught this. But I think I do it with my pinky okay, on my left hand. Yeah, I think depending that's what you do. Yeah, that's so that one I did appropriate and space bar. I hit with my thumb. That's that's cool, that's legitimal. Yeah, I think any other finger would work there. And then it's just the four, just the four, the index in the middles. And by the way, I do have an Avengers band aid on my index finger because I sliced. 00:08:35 Speaker 4: It cooking doing what. 00:08:37 Speaker 2: Okay, Wow, we're learning all sorts of things about me. Can't type for shit, he's idiot, just does not have basic skills. Well, here we are, can't cut because so we have a tradition. We've just started this tradition. My wife Kelly, who was on the show. Check out her episode number one gift. Or you could just put in the number episode number. 00:08:57 Speaker 4: Type the number one into your computer. 00:09:00 Speaker 2: Yeh, hit enter and it'll come up. It'll be there. And so Kelly's brother and Kelly her whole family are great cooks. Kelly's oldest brother, she has two oldest brother even better, like the best cook, and he for Thanksgiving every year smokes a turkey, which is delicious. I highly recommend its dangerous too, you. 00:09:21 Speaker 4: Could easily get a salmonella situation. 00:09:24 Speaker 2: And also he did almost light the backyard on fire when we were there. Yeah, yeah, so the hopefully's almost went up in flames. But then that so we were saying in Austin, Texas, where her family lives, and I could just feel all the listeners just coming to the podcast to hear this story. They're like, what brother a great cook. Turn it off. 00:09:45 Speaker 4: Now we're trying to increase our Thanksgiving listeners. Yeah, we're trying to get the Texas audience. But that's that's a big state. 00:09:51 Speaker 2: They have like the ecosystem there and economy is what I was going to say. Now they have anyway, multiple eCos That's a big place. He the We were there twenty twenty because it was the pandemic. We had nothing to do, we weren't working, we were very depressed. We went to Austin and stayed there for a couple months just to be near her family. Well after Thanksgiving, Kirk goes out and gets another turkey after Thanksgiving because they're just trying to get rid of turkeys. That the week after Givings and he smoked another turkey and he's like, I figured we should smoke another one because we all like it and it's awesome. And then you got smoke turkey soup after that. So we have a tradition now where we after Thanksgiving we go and get a turkey and smoke it. So I was trying to cut the second smoke turkey Thanksgiving Junior is what we were calling it, and I freaking oof. 00:10:37 Speaker 4: Were you cutting them with the little saw? 00:10:39 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, we don't even have that. It was a decent knife, sharp enough to cut me. Okay, but I was I did it wrong? It was all It was bad. I shouldn't have been cutting with that knife. I shouldn't have had my hand where it was. 00:10:54 Speaker 4: Was there a lot of blood? 00:10:55 Speaker 3: Yeah? 00:10:55 Speaker 2: Did it ruin the turkey? It didn't ruin the turkey? But I panicked and was so oh. I was so pathetic and embarrassed about it. It was and you know, now we're talking about raising a family. There was some disagreement between my wife and I about how I was handling myself while panicking, and let's just say I wasn't doing a good job. 00:11:19 Speaker 4: What were like, what were you doing. What was this panic leg? 00:11:23 Speaker 2: Oh no, oh, it's pleased. Oh my god, Oh my god. I mean I was truly want I think she was like, look, we talked about it afterwards, and she did apologize a little bit of like, I can't really expect you in the moment of panicking and you were scared. I was bleeding with a ton I probably could have gotten stitches for it, but it was like, it's so embarrassed. It was also embarrassing. It's like a Sunday night, and I was like, I don't want I just want to go to bed, you know, I don't want to go to the hospital. Right, So I was like, I hope I just this thing just kind of figures itself parts. Yes, yeah, which it kind of does. But I think she's like, look, you know, with our kids, and especially we have a four year old son, he was really scared seeing me in that state, and you know, to see if you could try and regulate your I don't know, emotions, but just like trying to be a little bit more what I don't even know what the word would be of like in control, even though you're out of control. But I was freaking out right, and maybe just not freaking out quite as much. 00:12:18 Speaker 4: But I feel like you get to pass with pain. I think of all like a situation. 00:12:22 Speaker 2: Or I think that's I think maybe that's what she realized too. It's like, all right, this is maybe that's a thing in the back of her mind. That's maybe not the situation where you know it is appropriate to be like, hey, hey, calm down, buddy, Yeah, relax. But yeah, there was a lot of blood and it just hurt, you know, a knife going into your finger, making kind of a dull thud sound. 00:12:44 Speaker 4: Dull thud that hit bone. 00:12:46 Speaker 2: It didn't hit bone, but just like is gross. And then I was like, oh no. And then you look at it and you're like, oh no, it's pouring out. But now that I you know, now that I experience, I'm like, yeah, that's fine. 00:12:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, now you've got another thing. You don't have to be afraid. 00:12:59 Speaker 2: Of slicing it. Next year, Thanksgiving Junior is going to be a fun, roucous event because we don't care what happens. 00:13:10 Speaker 4: You're gonna start it with a cut. 00:13:12 Speaker 2: Yes, started with the cut, guys. Yeah, the blood of Thanksgiving Junior. And on the keyboard rules. Yeah, and he'll be like, well, that's really cool. How rock and roll of you father? 00:13:22 Speaker 4: What a great model, what an excellent mode. 00:13:24 Speaker 2: So freely panic when he's scared. I like that. I like my cowardly father. 00:13:28 Speaker 4: Have you ever had to get stitches? 00:13:31 Speaker 2: I did in high school? I got elbowed in gym class playing basketball. Okay, going for a rebound, elbowed by a taller guy. Here's the cool part. Didn't hurt at all. Then we had to change in gym class. Did you have to change? 00:13:47 Speaker 4: We did have to share. You had to change it like that, As. 00:13:49 Speaker 2: I'm changing into my regular clothes, my friend is like, hey, you might want to go to the nurse, and I'm like why. He's like, because there's blood completely running down your face. And I was like, oh, and then so was that part in your eyebrow where it's just bone. 00:14:08 Speaker 4: Right, where it's truly your skull is just right there? 00:14:11 Speaker 2: Just a yeah? Yeah, intelligent design, my ass. 00:14:15 Speaker 4: There should be a bunch of paddies, yeah, and I soft chewy. 00:14:19 Speaker 1: Yeah. 00:14:20 Speaker 2: We should be able to pinch that on it. It should be like a cute little thing we could all pinch. I love his brow tips, but no, it's just a tiny thing. Of skin, and yeah, there's a scar there, but I can't really see it. How many stitches did you have to get? That's a great question that I can't remember. 00:14:34 Speaker 4: Wow, it usually feels like something people know to do. 00:14:37 Speaker 2: No right, But I'm such a badass who only panics on Thanksgiving Junior, that I didn't even care. At that point. It was like, stitch me up, Doc, I really did. I think at that point was like, this is a I know this is a cool injury because it didn't affect me. 00:14:51 Speaker 4: That that's an excellent injury. 00:14:52 Speaker 2: It is a good one. I don't know if you have any in your path. I'm trying to think of other times. I've never really, I've broken a thumb. 00:14:58 Speaker 4: I've never broken anything. Excellent bones, great bones, fantastic bones, good for you. I've had stitches. I had my brother threw a piece of PVC pipe at me and when I lastic when I was eight, I think and gouged my face. 00:15:12 Speaker 2: On your eighth birthday. He was like, welcome to adult my birthday. Yeah, yeah it should be. I'm jealous, older. 00:15:17 Speaker 4: Brother, older brother. Hopefully he still regrets it. I think they haunts him. 00:15:22 Speaker 2: I think that I mean, that's those are the things that haunt me the most is the regrets that I like, the times where I like, did something bad to it and you're like, oh, you just of course yeah, and you're like, oh, I was terrible in that moment. I don't know what happened. I lost control. 00:15:38 Speaker 4: Let me ask you something about doctors and situations like this. I feel like anytime I've been in an emergency situation, the doctor has always been like, if it had been one more inch, you would be dead. 00:15:47 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they like to kind of tell you what could have been. But the ghost of Christmas future, I don't. 00:15:53 Speaker 4: Believe any of that. 00:15:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was just listening to Stephen King's book on writing. Okay, she discusses when he was hit by that truck. I didn't know he was hit by a truck. Yeah, and uh, this is like nineteen ninety two, okay, so this is long in, yes, long into so he's writing about The book is a great book for people wanting to hear about his process, I guess, and how he got into writing. And there's like he was writing it. 00:16:19 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, so he was hit while writing on right and he talks. 00:16:22 Speaker 2: About that in the book, and they do say that his doctor told him had he been hit a little bit more, he wouldn't have made it. Of course, of course, why not. Maybe it's the doctor's giving you a little ego boost. 00:16:33 Speaker 4: But I don't feel like that's an ego. 00:16:36 Speaker 2: Did its Oh yeah, you're right. Well maybe it's a little double HJ where it's like, hey, you're pretty strong, you survived that. You would have just missed it. But you you're a lucky, cool guy. 00:16:47 Speaker 4: And the doctor who couldn't tell that that would have happened. 00:16:49 Speaker 2: So what should we grab a drink or something? What do you say? 00:16:53 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't Hopefully I don't end up in any more emergency situations where that sort of thing happens. 00:16:58 Speaker 2: Well, probably when we do will die, Yeah, we'll probably the time where where we die if we go back to the emergency room at this age. 00:17:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is actually it's it's over. It's not like you don't have the springy in us of ten year old. 00:17:12 Speaker 2: No, Like, yes, when we bring our son to the emergency room, they're like. 00:17:15 Speaker 4: He's put up with whatever. 00:17:16 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's healing, he'll be okay, right with us? 00:17:19 Speaker 4: Another twenty five years before, Yes, it started worrying. 00:17:21 Speaker 2: Right, and now though you're like, oh, no, you shouldn't be here. 00:17:25 Speaker 4: Do you know what I just I was thinking about on the drive home from dinner tonight. I feel like twenty twenty three, something's going to come from space. I think, oh, that's your year. Something horrible from space arrives on Earth. 00:17:37 Speaker 2: I don't know, are you saying that because the ozone layer so depleted that because there's aren't there like meteors all the time. I think there are, but the ozone layer helps us. Is that true? I don't everything's been kind of conflated in my mind from I think it's a Captain planet Horsefield. That's what they kind of say. They say, you know, it burns up in the Earth's atmosphere. So it starts off big, okay, and it's going at speeds at which you can't even imagine above seventy miles seventy seventy seventy five. It's like on you know, I five or something. You know, it's he's a reckless driver on the iPhone, but he's in a control because it's pretty straight at that point. But then it goes through the atmosphere and it burns up, and that's why when the meteors land. They're really small. 00:18:21 Speaker 4: Oh like a like a piece of candy for a while, delicious piece of. 00:18:25 Speaker 2: Where there's original or some candy where there's rich minerals that we can make money on. All the good stuff is in asteroids. 00:18:32 Speaker 4: The ozone layer is kind of just disintegrating them. 00:18:37 Speaker 2: I think so. 00:18:38 Speaker 4: I think that's what I believe that. I think that's the I think that's that was just like protecting us from the Sun's rays. 00:18:45 Speaker 2: I think that's that too. I think it's got multifunctions. It's a great layer on a least. I feel like you're looking this up and I don't want to know. Are you looking it up? Am I close? 00:18:53 Speaker 4: I don't want to layer the stratosphere, I will say nothing. 00:18:57 Speaker 2: Is that? Like? What is the stratosphere? 00:18:59 Speaker 1: Is the atmosphere? 00:18:59 Speaker 4: Isn't that the layers of the atmosphere? 00:19:03 Speaker 2: And is that the ozone layer? Or is that a different way? 00:19:05 Speaker 4: That's a different layer. And it's also the thing in Las Vegas, the tower that the carnival rides on. 00:19:12 Speaker 2: It or whatever. I was just thinking about how everyone loves Vegas. It's something, there's something there for everybody. 00:19:17 Speaker 4: You are bringing on a lot of misinformation on this podcast. 00:19:20 Speaker 2: Everybody just it's a fun place. I've had fun there, That's I guess why I'm I've learned tell everyone, well not everyone, but you know, there's just when I go there, I'm enamored by how cartoonishly international it is. It's like people really recovering everyone. That's what I mean. That's what I meant, so that, like, I can't believe this goof of a city got has something so magical. 00:19:45 Speaker 4: You know that everyone in the world it seems like it's worth a trip. 00:19:47 Speaker 2: Yes, and it is. Is the craziest part. 00:19:51 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just going to stand up and say, no, it's not Have you been. I've been so many times. 00:19:55 Speaker 2: Maybe you've been too many times. I've believe twice. 00:19:58 Speaker 4: So you were there, you had it, and it had you absolutely had me just in the palm of its hand. 00:20:04 Speaker 2: What happened? 00:20:05 Speaker 3: Uh? 00:20:06 Speaker 4: No, I I just realized I didn't like it. 00:20:08 Speaker 2: Base I don't like it either, but I do like it. 00:20:10 Speaker 4: It just is kind of against everything that I. 00:20:12 Speaker 2: Enjoy, And that's part of what I've started to like about it. 00:20:16 Speaker 4: Like which things about it? Do you like the gambling? 00:20:18 Speaker 3: No? 00:20:19 Speaker 2: Do you like the club gambling. I don't, but I did go to a bachelor party, okay, and where I did? 00:20:26 Speaker 4: If I ever go to a bachelor party, I'm didding myself in the ocean. 00:20:29 Speaker 2: We well, look, I was distraught about this. It tore me up to have to go to this. We went to this place, Club tow or something. It's called Tao Tao and it's in the palazzo and it's like it's an all day pool party. Okay, so you can only wear a bathing suit. Sure, nothing else is allowed. They took everything from us and threw it out. 00:20:52 Speaker 4: It's like when you go to a place and then they're like, you need to be wearing a suit, you need to be wearing a baby. They give you like an oversized suit. If you don't already have. 00:20:59 Speaker 2: You would they would give you like a disposable bathing You could only wear a bathing suit. And it's a big disgusting pool with a big disgusting DJ playing disgusting music and spraying people. And we paid god wait, gobs no god whatever, gobs of money, gobs of money because we paid for the VIP experience, which includes you get your own little private disgusting pool. It's not the big one where ever you want all the disgusting people, you get your own. Well, we we caused we're there, are runoff, we're at the top. And it is, oh my god, that it's really just like stratified. Talk about the very stratified in terms of like power at the club. And it's very heterosexual. It is just like because there's all men in the VIP section, and the VIP section was taller, and you could look down at the peons in the pool swimming in your sewage and yes, swimming in your sewage essentially, and you could call people up and to be in your club. And that's and it's only and you could see kind of women. It's just embarrassing for everybody. Oh, sort of trying to dance their way into the private pools for some reason. And guess what, it was so hot and disgusting. Our pool was hot and disgusting. It was not refreshing. But I had a blast. 00:22:20 Speaker 4: Did your pool call anyone up? 00:22:22 Speaker 2: Yeah, we called people. We would call people up. I was a nice guy because I was just happy to be there. And you know, there were some women. I had no problem getting to know them, chat with them about our families chat. As we're chatting in the pool, She's like, Okay, I have to go. The bouncers telling me I have to leave because I had a much more a caddier friend who was like, no, no, no, these women don't get to come. I want I have special women that I want here. 00:22:49 Speaker 4: And he was a first event I've ever heard, and. 00:22:51 Speaker 2: I had a great time. Yeah it was so vad on paper, it was horrible, but that's what Vegas can do to you. 00:22:58 Speaker 4: Turned you into an absolutely terrible for one day. 00:23:01 Speaker 2: If I had to do that again, I would kill myself. But for one day, I was like, this is just a you get to sort of just like laugh at life. That's just the you get to play VIP, right, you know. It's like with enough money, you could be a VIP for a while. But it's like, look I got one day there. If I get save up and be a VIP for a day, just to see what it feels like, you see how delusional you could become. I mean, after one day, I was like, I could really be an asshole. 00:23:28 Speaker 4: You could really have six hours just kind of lying in Wait, yeah, you like. 00:23:32 Speaker 2: I can if I should do that? If I wanted to. 00:23:35 Speaker 4: It's a great test. 00:23:36 Speaker 2: It's a really good test. The devil is there. 00:23:39 Speaker 3: Now? 00:23:39 Speaker 2: How long were you in Vegas? Just one day? Two days? Two days? That's the max. You want to know the best part this is also just I'm just revealing something about a microphone makes me reveal all the most embarrassing things. Yeah, it's like you would think it's the opposite, but no, no, no, the test of time has been like put a camera on someone, they'll save their deepest. 00:23:56 Speaker 4: They will betray their family in an instant. 00:23:59 Speaker 2: For the news. They're like, there's a camera. You have a camera on your phone. You don't have to be This is not like a novelty. But anyway, this is to me. I guess I went for two days and I took the bus. You took the bus to lost Because I was spending so much money on that, I was like I should save money and take the bus. I don't know why I thought this. And the bus, now that was quite an experience. 00:24:25 Speaker 4: How long is that ride? 00:24:27 Speaker 2: Five hours? 00:24:28 Speaker 4: Five hours? What sort of bus is this? Is it like a Peter Pan situation, a bolt bus. 00:24:33 Speaker 2: It's so that it was this company called Flick's Buska and they really on the website make it seem like all the buses are new and clean. Of course, but when you go down to downtown Los Angeles, which is not known for having anything new or clean, they do not show up with a new and clean bus. And the clientele there was also traveling to Las Vegas by bus. There were fights. Immediately. I was like, I was calling Kelly being like what am I do? You gotta get me out of here. What were people fighting about? Well, so flicks Bus on their website is like, it's great you're taking Flicks Bus. You're making the right call. It's fifteen dollars for a trip. That's pretty cheap. I know, it's fifteen dollars to get to Vegas. Or if you want to reserve both seats in the row, it's twenty bucks. And I'm like, well, I'll just do that splur And you get to the bus and you got your little barcode and you tell the bus driver I reserve two seats, and the bus driver's like, I don't care. Wherever you want. Rules baby, Yeah, like they'll tell me that, and guess what, it's not being enforced. So I sat somewhere else. Other people were sitting wherever they want. And this other couple was like, we reserve these seats, and this other couple was like I don't care. And they got into a fight. Oh and yeah, and I was like, oh boy, but the the rule following couple won the fight. Oh good for those other people moved. Good for them. Yes, So I had a secret little you know, fist pump for the rule followers of like, good for. 00:25:57 Speaker 4: Them, that's right. Kind of one out that day. 00:26:00 Speaker 2: They did, but the rest of the time in Vegas was lawless. 00:26:03 Speaker 4: And then you rode the bus back. 00:26:06 Speaker 2: And then it was a clean bus. But then it was like that's how they get you to me. They on the way back, it's like, see, you'll take us again, won't you? And I'm like I might. Yeah. 00:26:14 Speaker 4: I feel like people on their way from Vegas out on their way out, or like I'm changing things. 00:26:19 Speaker 2: I'm gonna turn it around. You really have to. 00:26:21 Speaker 4: When you're headed in, you give it up. You're ready to just burn it all down. 00:26:25 Speaker 2: And I really, you really do. You just burn it down, you become a different person. It was really I think it's because that that time going to Vegas, I was like, I am just gonna let loose and do whatever I want. And it's not like anything is that crazy. I don't have like that deep and dark of desires. My favorite thing was like eating a bunch of edibles and walking around with us, walking around the casino floor with a slice of pizza. 00:26:48 Speaker 4: Oh that sounds incredible. 00:26:49 Speaker 2: It was I was like, am I allowed to walk around with this pizza? They're like, do whatever you want? Man, Like I don't care about what you do. Maybe you're changing my mind on Vegas. That's what you gotta do there is just like what would be fun for me? Right? 00:27:03 Speaker 4: Just choose your own little adventure. 00:27:05 Speaker 2: And also, what was nice about the bachelor party at my age is that no one gave you any trouble when you were like I'm going to bed, you know. So it was like ten o'clock, not kidding, and I'm like, I'm going to get one more slice of pizza. I'm gonna take that into my room. I'm gonna watch TV and fall asleep, and everyone's like good night. 00:27:22 Speaker 4: So that was This is pizza coming from in Las Vegas. 00:27:25 Speaker 2: We stayed at this is I'm gonna plug a resorts World Las Vegas. It's a newer establishment. 00:27:31 Speaker 4: The hotel is called Las Vegas. 00:27:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's right next to Circus Circus, which is really seen better days. That place is sun burnt. 00:27:40 Speaker 4: That place had seen better days than like nineteen ninety five. 00:27:42 Speaker 2: Yes, and now it's just like it looks like peeling skin from the sun. It's like, well, they have to tear this down. Someone has to do something. They've got to implode it. It's and it will it happen. It has to happen at some point. But that place has like a whole why am I talking about? This has a whole food court situation. 00:27:59 Speaker 4: Paid it's just up, very up Resorts World. We're each getting fifty thousand dollars to rep this Resorts World. 00:28:06 Speaker 2: I had such a great time there, though, I did tell my friends when I die, I want my ashes to be scattered in Resorts World and club tow. 00:28:13 Speaker 4: There's probably already a lot of ashes in there. 00:28:15 Speaker 2: I would think. So yeah, because everyone is feeling the same thing. This is who I really am, right and twenty four hours later you're like, oh my god, who was I Resorts World? Las Vegas? 00:28:26 Speaker 4: Las Vegas is the simply the worst name for. 00:28:29 Speaker 2: Why is it called? It's like a sort of a bunch of it's like Hilton and like other it's like their mother group or you know, their conglomerate, but they just simply called it the conglomerate. It's really weird to have Cisco Foods or something like the those big trucks that you would never want to actually know. Yeah, you would never be like, hey, welcome to Cisco restaurant, even. 00:28:52 Speaker 4: Though we know they, I mean, should try it. 00:28:55 Speaker 2: Have a big cafeteria, yeah, the costco style. 00:28:57 Speaker 4: To try all of the things that they're the bad. 00:28:59 Speaker 2: Food that the prison truths are here. 00:29:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, resorts World. 00:29:05 Speaker 2: Check it out or do not check it out. But Dan had a great time though. 00:29:09 Speaker 4: It sounds like clickbait. Sounds like a like something you would see like a little banorage. Yeah, an old fashioned business name. In twenty twenty three. 00:29:19 Speaker 2: No, it's like twenty something that you yeah what you're oh, Yeah, this. 00:29:22 Speaker 4: Is currently twenty twenty three. 00:29:24 Speaker 2: It is currently twenty twenty three. It is twenty twenty three. 00:29:27 Speaker 4: Here we are in twenty twenty twenty three, and. 00:29:29 Speaker 2: Some new Mario Kart tracks are being released. 00:29:32 Speaker 4: You're not kidding, they really are. Do you play Mario Kart? 00:29:35 Speaker 2: Well, my son who is four now is just getting interested wonderful, So yeah, like because there's an easy enough mode that he can just kind of hang out and just look at the graphics. What's great about watching a four year old play Mario Kart is that I've had Mario Kart my whole life. Of course, all the iterations, so I'm not blown away when there's a banana peel on the road, but he is. Oh, and so he is yelling about everything he seeing. Whoa, I'm going so fast there's a banana peel, I got the golden mushroom like he is just I can't believe. It's really adorable and it it's I guess that's the whole thing with parenting is like you get to watch Yes, the world's unfold for this person, and you're like, it's all magical. 00:30:18 Speaker 4: So you know, I've been told that about Disneyland, and I went to Disneyland with my nieces in October. They were huge jerks to me. 00:30:27 Speaker 2: Really, what age? 00:30:29 Speaker 4: What age are six and three? Well, the three year old was not a huge jerk. The six year old large part of the day was not nice to me. 00:30:37 Speaker 2: And we have think that they were tired and hungry, or something that turns kids into monsters. Yeah, because it's like they're Here's the thing about disney Land. Disneyland Disneyland is, did you guys have a stroller for the six yearo? Did my sister have a stroll? Because a six year old seems too old for a stroller right on the surface, but you realize there's so much crappy walking to be so much, which I don't mind as an adult, it's like I should walk. I don't do this enough, but for a child is horrible. 00:31:06 Speaker 4: It's like it's like times as much. Yeah energy is is that really what? I don't know, but yeah, sure, and. 00:31:16 Speaker 2: Children take six times as much energy as an adult. 00:31:18 Speaker 4: These are all facts so you learn in school. 00:31:21 Speaker 2: I don't care about your feelings, guys, this is real stuff. But yeah, so like that the sun and oh yeah, the not eating and also the stimuli. It's too much, and so we did. It was too much for my son too, and there were times that he was a jerk. But you know, I'm forced to love him. I've been blessed and cursed with the love of this child that he could do whatever he wants to make right and you enjoy it. I don't like it in the moment, but I have He has the leverage, He's all the leverage. He could do whatever he wants. I just hope he doesn't know that. 00:31:50 Speaker 4: I mean, speaking of doing whatever you want Vegas, Vegas chill, kind of lawless, rule rule breaking. I was so excited to have you on the pod. Kelly was on a few months ago. We had a fantastic time, despite a few problems we had on that episode. 00:32:05 Speaker 2: Just about a few problems I have with Kelly. 00:32:08 Speaker 4: Just my personal problems with her aside, I don't like the way she dresses. 00:32:12 Speaker 2: Agree. 00:32:13 Speaker 4: No, I was very excited to have you on. I thought, Dan so funny. I love to chat with Dan. 00:32:18 Speaker 2: We'll have a great time. So far, so good for me. 00:32:21 Speaker 4: Podcast is called I said no gifts, right, so here you come a few minutes late. 00:32:25 Speaker 2: I'm already furious, right, but again it was revenge. So we're even. 00:32:30 Speaker 4: Okay, fine, we're even. But now it seems like you've taken it up a notch because you brought a gift. 00:32:35 Speaker 2: I did, I know, and I'm sorry. I know you said not to, but I couldn't show up empty handed. I felt that was wrong. I'm trying to show my kids, you know, politeness. 00:32:44 Speaker 4: Oh, this is modeling a proper behavior. 00:32:47 Speaker 2: See, Like, remember I panicked too much with the cut, so I'm trying to make up for that and be like, hey, you go on someone's podcast, you bring them an extravagant gift. 00:32:55 Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough, Well should I open it here on the show? 00:33:00 Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind, Okay, Okay, with that, I feel I don't know if your listeners would. 00:33:04 Speaker 4: If we could do a live poll, yeah, I would love to just reach out to them. 00:33:08 Speaker 2: Maybe we do. 00:33:10 Speaker 4: Next time you're on, we do a live show and they call in. Unfortunately, the listener is their hands are tied right now, busy, and they're freaking out. They don't know if I should open it or not. 00:33:20 Speaker 2: Sorry to put them in that position. 00:33:21 Speaker 4: I hate to put them in that position. That's why I'm not happy. 00:33:24 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I bet it's like a fifty to fifty split and tie goes to the opener. 00:33:29 Speaker 4: Okay, so just how he goes to the opener. 00:33:32 Speaker 2: You know, at some kids parties that I've gone to, they don't open gifts. They don't open any of the gifts. No, they wait, And I'm like, I kind of think you should open the gifts. 00:33:40 Speaker 4: I feel like at an adult party that might make sense, right at a kid's party, so many sexy teddies that you're like. 00:33:49 Speaker 2: I got to open this in front of my friends. 00:33:51 Speaker 4: That's happened to me at so many of my birthdays. 00:33:53 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, oh my god, I mean that is very sexy. I know you're all picturing me in this. Well, I guess I'll put it on, but yes, I know. I'm like, this is part of the fun. It's like they're the only people that really care about stuff and seeing toys. Yes, a toy that they didn't expect to get right right, Like, that's the coolest thing. So it's like, just open it. 00:34:12 Speaker 4: That's a weird move on the parents part. 00:34:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everyone's trying to be polite and we all end up doing bizarre that. 00:34:17 Speaker 4: Just going way too far. This gift is in a washable bed pad bag. 00:34:37 Speaker 2: But it's not a washable bed pad. Okay, don't be fooled. It's just a beautiful bag. 00:34:42 Speaker 4: Yeah. Did you get this a like party city or where did you get this gift bag? 00:34:46 Speaker 2: We got it. We ordered it special on a website Amazon. Oh interesting, I'm trying to feel great about using that website as often as I do. 00:34:53 Speaker 4: Nobody has any moral hang ups at all. 00:34:56 Speaker 2: No, no moral hang ups at all in my life, and that one especially not. It's this store is great. I love the design of their site, sleek, sleek and beautiful, and you know, I love the management of them, and I love what they're doing, and I love the space exploration and all the content. So I thought, why not add to that and get bridge or something really beautiful. It's not a washable bed pad pad, but you. 00:35:21 Speaker 4: Did recently buy a washable bed pad. 00:35:23 Speaker 2: Yes, my son is wedding my bed. He climbs into our bed. I'm too tired to get him out. I don't even know when it happens, to be honest. Oh wow. And then it's too late and he's like what the bed? And you're like, what the. 00:35:38 Speaker 4: How often is he wedding your bed? 00:35:40 Speaker 2: Well, So we have a new baby in the house right now, and I wonder if this is part of it. We've moved to a new place, there's a new baby. This is like cat, I think that's what's happening. I think that's kind of what it is. Also, our son refuses to wear diapers at night. It always has which is I mean, I admire it and I love not having to change him. But sometimes you then have to change your sheet, your full mattress, full mattress sheets, and we have like a cover on our mattress to protect our mattress from his peek. Wow, so that's why I enjoyed Data's okay. 00:36:15 Speaker 4: You can say that you can pee on the bed. There no one cares exactly, there's no rules, no rules. 00:36:22 Speaker 2: Pool I needed it. 00:36:25 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to open this bag. It's got a nice crinkle. 00:36:28 Speaker 2: It is kind of I mean, you know, the bag works. 00:36:32 Speaker 4: It's actually works. 00:36:33 Speaker 2: How do I open it? It's very sealed, very sealed, and I expected okay, reaching reaching in making an absolute racket. It's okay, let's see tolling, tolling the suspense continuing to make Did your son make this? Yes? 00:36:53 Speaker 4: This is a beautiful piece of art. 00:36:56 Speaker 2: It's priceless. Yes, and the corners of it are only bent as part of the display. But it's priceless artwork. 00:37:05 Speaker 4: Should I try to guess what this is? 00:37:08 Speaker 2: You can? I wouldn't know. I don't know what. Yeah, what do we think this is? 00:37:13 Speaker 4: I have to imagine to me this is mouse like Like there's like a face with two very close eyes. The guy's your son probably didn't do an excellent. 00:37:23 Speaker 2: Job, worries somehow close those eyes. 00:37:26 Speaker 4: And then there are like leaves glued onto it in a way that they look like mouse ears. 00:37:30 Speaker 2: Right, that's that seems right. 00:37:32 Speaker 4: And then two giant brown splotches which could be a mouse nose and mouse mouth or. 00:37:39 Speaker 2: Some kind of like open wound delesion. It's a sick mouse. 00:37:43 Speaker 4: What is it? Haunta virus? Is that the mouse disease? 00:37:47 Speaker 2: Oh? Wow? Fact, yes, and. 00:37:50 Speaker 4: It's hand to or haunt a virus. 00:37:52 Speaker 2: Do we know anything anymore? I think that's all. Yeah, that's like all my information is, like, is that the proper information and I could look it up. All the information is right there on my phone. That's gonna problem. 00:38:04 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know your brain knows that. I don't need to know it anymore. 00:38:07 Speaker 2: I have a prediction for the future. You said that a thing from this thing coming from space. My thing, I don't think that for twenty twenty three. But my my future thing is that like with AI, in the future, you'll be able to You'll just like be able to randomize whatever content you want. You know, it'll be like I feel like watching you know how they tell like whatever that drawing AI thing that's like I want. 00:38:32 Speaker 4: To see mid art. Yeah, but it's like. 00:38:35 Speaker 2: I want to see Whoopy Goldberg in a medieval castle, like puking up a carrot and it does this weird rendition. I feel like they're gonna do that as as full shows and movies, of course, and people are just going to be scrolling through still just dissatisfied. 00:38:53 Speaker 4: Of course, they are probably more satisfied, more dissatisfied. Oh you're saying dissatisfied. 00:38:57 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they will be, but because they'll have so much I'll have so many choices, right, but they'll be like I saw this cool thing, but no one else is going to see it. 00:39:05 Speaker 4: Yeah, they can't share it with anybody. 00:39:07 Speaker 2: You'll be able to, but no one's gonna watch it just now because you're just like there's too much stuff. I don't know, do you know what? I feel like? 00:39:14 Speaker 4: TV is at a point where everything looks good but most things are not good. 00:39:19 Speaker 2: No, they're not at all. 00:39:20 Speaker 4: Like ten years ago, think the things that looked good were. 00:39:22 Speaker 2: Good, right, there was a real like just like a sweet spot, right, And it's like prestige television. It's good and looks good and is expensive and you got to pay for it. Perfect And now it's like I'm paying for ads for Paw Patrol what. Yeah, And when when I brought this up, I was thinking about it used to be has gone way down. Oh my god, I loved it. 00:39:44 Speaker 4: It's all of its former self. 00:39:47 Speaker 2: But yes, you're now you have to get ads. They're trying to make like really expensive looking shows because every network needs like a fantasy adventure. Those are extremely expensive to make, and they're like, we can't pay for that, so make it look like crap please anyway. But the AI thing, what do you think? Yeah, I think that's going to happen. I think it's gonna happen. 00:40:07 Speaker 4: With music, it's gonna I mean it's right, probably maybe one of the last generations of writers or whatever that will make money off of it. 00:40:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see it being like a bespoke rich person. Thing is you have a human. 00:40:19 Speaker 4: Writer, yes, and a human singer. 00:40:23 Speaker 2: Scary. It's kind of like that movie Her Do you remember that? Oh? Sure? He like used to write. Let he was like his job was to write letters. 00:40:30 Speaker 4: I forgot about that part of it. 00:40:31 Speaker 2: He was writing love letters to a couple, like between them. Why was he doing that. I think it's because it's like that's like a novelty. 00:40:39 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because it's in the future. 00:40:41 Speaker 2: In the future. Is that what happens in that movie? 00:40:44 Speaker 4: That's I think. 00:40:45 Speaker 2: I mean, that's his job for a little bit. I don't think they really get into it. 00:40:47 Speaker 4: But he kind of like writes personal letters. 00:40:49 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because no one knows how to do it anymore. Maybe's and like it's like a thing. Yeah, it feels pretty good. 00:40:55 Speaker 4: I mean I think we're getting closer and closer. There was the whole AI art thing on Instagram. Yes, looks terrible, it looks bad. Oh, that's the thing that's going around right now. Everyone's posting their portraits. Isn't that just like a filter though. 00:41:08 Speaker 2: I mean it's not a filter, it's not. I know it's an but I'm just saying, like, isn't that the same idea face. It's like, look, it looks like me, but in a comic book. Yeah. I think they've had that since some hipstomatic or whatever that like first app But you know whatever, everybody's happy about it good. 00:41:26 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I guess it's another diversion. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: So fast though, the fads now, they go so fast that people aren't even into them anyway. That's like we're already like talking shit about this fad that just started. 00:41:38 Speaker 3: Suck. I know. 00:41:39 Speaker 4: The Internet choose things up and spits them out in seconds. It's like a swarm of flies sends on a like a chicken wing Yeah up and it's gone. 00:41:47 Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I'm trying to even think what makes something has to be so surprising and potentially grotesque. That's just like shock people. You have to shock people's systems. 00:41:58 Speaker 4: You really have to go out of your way to get any attention. 00:42:01 Speaker 2: But then the things I get attention are weird for bad Yeah. I mean, look, I not to talk out of turn, but it's like ted Lasso is like the most popular thing in the world, and it's like people are just like, I just want a nice show, is what it turns out. You're like, really that's all you want? Yeah, It's like there's I just want a nice man. It's not even like mister Rogers, who's a real nice guy. This guy's a Hollywood actor. You know what he's like in his private life probably dry. He has to be he's clearly like to do that to be a good man on TV convincingly. I think you have to be terrible. You have to be associate horrible, to be like I could tap into that. I feel like most people who did they be like, I don't know, should I just like be myself? I'm not sure to do this where his psychos could be like I got it. A nice guy, yeah, pretend to be a nice guy. Sure, I don't know. I don't know. 00:42:50 Speaker 4: H Okay, So this is your son is going too or something? 00:42:54 Speaker 2: He's seventeen, No, he's he's in preschool. Is this preschool art? 00:42:58 Speaker 4: And so when he comes home with something like this, or you're like, I want my money back? 00:43:02 Speaker 2: He he doesn't even know, Like I don't think he knows. He's still at the age. He doesn't even know where these things go where they like, he's not like, you know, like they give it to me in this stack, And I'm like, I love this person. So I feel odd throwing them directly into the trash. But also, we can't keep all of this stuff. But it is a priceless artifact. How do you choose what to keep? I think if something is particularly interesting or like, I ken't like they're learning letters, Okay, I was like, that's kind of interesting that like his like to see his like shaky serial killer handwriting right now, you know, he'll be like, yeah, he's a creepy he's Robert Durst, you know, to see that. I feel like one day maybe he'll be like, oh wow, look at that. I was a child who learned how to write. But I guess he won't have like any sentimentality with a letter R. You're just guessing. So now I'm just guessing of like maybe he'll be interested to see this again. He may come after that mouse. He's like, where's the mouse? I made? The freak mouse that I cared so much about? Yeah, I love that thing. Yeah, but he has no idea what's happening, what he's doing. But if I was like, did you make this, he'd. 00:44:06 Speaker 4: Be like, yeah, so are you saying like he's a liar? Could be he could just take credit for something he forgot about already. He might be you know, at that age, I was a cycle. Yeah, I think they kind of you went. 00:44:19 Speaker 2: To future and unfortunately he's growing up Hollywood ad Jason Glendale Okay, we tried to take him out, but it's going to seep its way in, so he might end up. He's you know, he's got he's funny, he can do it. He can He's God charisma right to him. I mean, I look at it. His other he my son will talk to people. You know, he goes into preschool, he's yelling twenty twenty three, there's new Mario Kart tracks coming out. 00:44:47 Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say that. He was predicting Space. 00:44:49 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty thirty Space. It's gonna happen. Me and Bridger. Whereas his other friends, I'm like, hey, buddy, Tom waving to his other friends, just dead eyes, and I'm like, I've known you for two years. You still can't say hello to me? Yeah? I mean then I remember being a kid. I'm like, I never said hi to my parents as a kid. Yeah, yeah, me too. I never talked to me. I'm still uncomfortable around parents. 00:45:08 Speaker 4: I'm uncomfort uncomfortable around everyone. 00:45:11 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. Of it's not just parents. It turns out unless you put a microphone in front of me and then I tell them anything, you know, what's wrong with my asshole? Like you know what I got growing on me. 00:45:23 Speaker 4: Did your parents keep any of your school state? 00:45:26 Speaker 2: They kept one great thing that I'm glad they kept, which was I cheated kind of on. We had to we were learning graphs in fourth grade, kind of Halloween time, so we had to graph out our spoils of Halloween. This was just a year where my my older brother and I killed it. We we went out twice, like we got the most candy I've ever been around. And then I was I graphed it out and had we you know, it was that like graphing paper, which is just very satisfying. Yeah, the squares myself. Yeah, it's actually very nice to write on. I was noticing it today. Someone had it as their like Google chrome like skin or whatever, and I was like, graph is just so soothing. It's soothing. And so I had to do bar graphs of all the candy I got and how much, and we taped two pieces of graph paper together because it was so much candy. It was really satisfying. And to go back because I had always remembered that right, and then to like go back in college and have my mom's like I'm throwing out a bunch of your stuff and to see that and be like, oh, I still like this. 00:46:24 Speaker 4: Well, what was the most candy you got? 00:46:27 Speaker 2: Like, like which one specific? 00:46:28 Speaker 4: What was the biggest bar on that graph? Do you remember? 00:46:31 Speaker 2: You know? I don't offhand, but I bet I I think I probably still have this thing that I could look at the find the bin and see what it was. But let's just say for the sake of lying, because we're in Hollywood, we're talking about whoppers. 00:46:45 Speaker 4: Whoppers, disgusting candy. 00:46:47 Speaker 2: Kelly loves them. 00:46:48 Speaker 4: They do. They make your throat hurt. 00:46:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, that said that, like like mucisi like because it's it's like say, moth balls, but it's multiple malt. 00:46:56 Speaker 4: The mall. I like the flavor malt, but not in a whopper, I mean, what do you like it? 00:47:00 Speaker 2: And then it like a milkshake, milkshake, I'm all delicious. I'd love to be at a sock hoop drinking them all. Yeah, they don't really have like a fifties burger joint kind of place anymore. 00:47:11 Speaker 4: No, not in not in Los Angeles. 00:47:12 Speaker 2: Which would think they. I guess they just have old places. 00:47:15 Speaker 4: Right, I mean like diners, old diners. 00:47:17 Speaker 2: But they don't have like a burger hop. 00:47:19 Speaker 4: Burger hop. 00:47:20 Speaker 2: What are we talking about, like in pulp fiction? Uh ohhh, rabbit slims or whatever? 00:47:26 Speaker 4: What is that in pulp fiction? Because that feels so out of the world, Like what, well. 00:47:30 Speaker 2: We they opened one. I swear they opened this place called the burger hop, not in my hometown, but near my hometown, and I thought it was so cool as a kid, but my parents didn't like it, probably because it wasn't that good and it was expensive and it was only open for a few years. And they tried to open an old fashioned soda shop I remember in my hometown, so there was the nostalgia for that, and then I guess that generation died, so that's why it doesn't exist anymore. 00:47:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess like they are the diners in LA that are the closest to that. And I do like to go get a milkshake at a diner. 00:48:00 Speaker 2: I love a diner. 00:48:02 Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, it's such a comfortable failing to just sit in a diner booth and friendly waiter. 00:48:08 Speaker 2: That would be nice. Well, you know what, even an unfriendly waiter. An unfriendly waiter isn't so bad at a diner. 00:48:13 Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's part of the chart. 00:48:17 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, all right, it's a surly spot. 00:48:18 Speaker 4: Right, as long as it doesn't feel put on. 00:48:21 Speaker 2: As long as not to put on, and as long as it like the diner. Isn't that terrible? Right? 00:48:25 Speaker 4: Yeah? If it's like horrible eggs and the person's being mean to you, why am I jail? 00:48:31 Speaker 2: It's a bad Yeah, it's bad. 00:48:33 Speaker 4: That's not for me. 00:48:35 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:48:35 Speaker 4: But the thing in pulp fiction, I need to I haven't watched it in a few years. I need to go back and was there a thing because it feels like they go there as a novelty in the Yes movie. 00:48:45 Speaker 2: And I think it is like this is it's one of those throwback restaurants. 00:48:48 Speaker 4: Right, and then they complain about the milkshaking five dollars or something. 00:48:51 Speaker 2: Oh wow, just such a bargain. That'd be great, right now, five dollars for anything. Truly, there wasn't a certain point where lunches just became sixteen dollars they did. You're just like, oh, lunch, we're still talking about lunch like it's five or ten dollars. 00:49:06 Speaker 4: It's it's sixteen, sixteen dollars. You're not getting away with anything less anything. 00:49:11 Speaker 2: It's really it's crazy and like now with the family, I really don't go out to eat all. I can't imagine ever, like we eat at home a lot. 00:49:19 Speaker 4: This is why I will never have children. I have to be good to eat. It is nice, just as rewarding as having children, I'm sure. 00:49:27 Speaker 2: Yes, the feeling of having a meal is the exact same thing. 00:49:32 Speaker 4: To watch graduate with the child's. 00:49:35 Speaker 2: Tears in my eyes sobbing at night, which has happened? You do do that? Sometimes you're just like, oh, oh, the power of love. I'm gonna write a song about it. I am Peter Satara. Is that who wrote that? No, it's a glory of love. Glory, that's glory of love. Power of love? Is hue huey Lewis in the news? 00:49:56 Speaker 3: Yes? 00:49:56 Speaker 2: Sorry? 00:49:57 Speaker 4: They were both obviously written about their children. 00:50:00 Speaker 2: Yes, about a child, yes, right, and different facets of love, the power of it. 00:50:04 Speaker 4: The power, glory, the agony, the the Is there a song called the agony of. 00:50:10 Speaker 2: A lot of songs probably are about the agony of love? Acony of the agony? 00:50:14 Speaker 1: Yeah? 00:50:14 Speaker 2: I don't what if we truly? 00:50:16 Speaker 4: What are we talking? 00:50:17 Speaker 2: Love? Is there anything else? That's it? The most powerful power of love? 00:50:22 Speaker 4: I mean that is An interesting thing about music to me is it's all about love. When you get to hear a song that's not about love, what a treat? 00:50:30 Speaker 2: Yes, and that Like I was thinking about that today. I was listening to Okay, so my son loves he likes Daft punk a lot. Oh sure, because I think like kids like fast, fun songs and it was one of their songs and there was like love stuff in there, and I was like, it's weird that all this music that I feel like is this is just how music always has been and always will be, will be like an artifact, it'll feel kind of weird, yeah, or just that people will be like so what like people would like fall in love at a place and then like yeah, iy and work it out in a dance or something like what are they talking about? And that's so normal to us. 00:51:11 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just an everyday thing. Yeah, which it's actually not anymore. 00:51:15 Speaker 2: No, and it won't be you know, and I don't know a couple hundred years, it would seem it might seem crazy to whatever for whatever they're. 00:51:22 Speaker 4: Doing, until society falls and then everything has to be relearned exactly this is what now it's coming back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but we have to push technology to a limit that it destroys society. 00:51:33 Speaker 2: First, which it kind of is. Right. Oh yeah, we're definitely getting there. 00:51:36 Speaker 3: And then the. 00:51:37 Speaker 4: Ai AI we talked about afore, a mystery from space that I'm predicted that's coming. It's I hate to say it on this podcast. A lot of things on this podcast that I say come true, and that's we know that's a fact, and we know that's a fact, and we don't have. 00:51:52 Speaker 2: To look it up. 00:51:53 Speaker 4: Certainly don't look into it. 00:51:55 Speaker 2: But yeah, the pandemic really got me addicted to my phone, of course, you know. And just I think just the craning and the desperate scrolling is its own form of society falling. Oh of course, I can't even be like in a place, I mean, this is I like podcasts because it makes me focus. Yeah, you have to actually listen to something something, even if I'm like, this is driving me crazy. Bridger won't shut up. I'm yeah, I'm done, aren't. 00:52:24 Speaker 4: We don't left a turkey in the evidence. 00:52:26 Speaker 2: Turkey three. The turkeys are so cheap right now, they can't get. 00:52:30 Speaker 3: Rid of them. 00:52:30 Speaker 4: I didn't realize they discounted turkeys. 00:52:32 Speaker 2: After Thanksgiving because they can't get rid of them. But there's all these turkeys. 00:52:36 Speaker 4: Somebody wants turkey in January? 00:52:38 Speaker 2: Do people eat turkey any Do you eat turkey any other time? Have you ever bought a turkey any week besides the week? Because I'm learning all this stuff as like I'm the adult now a family, I gotta buy the turkey and all this stuff. We like hosted Thanksgiving, which was really just like a couple seriously was It ended up being two people because people were sick, so it's two people. And I was exhausted, of course for cooking a meal, cooking a meal alone for a bunch of people cleaning, And I was like, oh, this is why adults don't like it, and this is why my parents don't want to do it anymore. They're like, do whatever you want, Like we're not doing that. And this is also why as a kid, you're like, oh, the holidays are nice because I'm home watching the parade. 00:53:22 Speaker 4: And there are all these parties that are just being kind of thrown that I get to attend. 00:53:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I get treats. 00:53:27 Speaker 4: Yes, let's just sit around. 00:53:28 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and it smells nice, and that's what's good about it. And now I'm like stressing, cutting my finger, trying to like make people happy for no reason. 00:53:37 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never purchased a turkey. 00:53:39 Speaker 2: I'm buying turkeys these days. I don't have that responsibility. I mean, I guess I don't really either. But apparently family I've got to I can give up on them. I don't have to bring home food. Yeah, you get it. That is a crazy thing, is that when a child goes from a baby who is bottle or breastfed to like, hey, this guy eats now meals a day. What are you gonna do for them? And you're like, uh oh, what do I make? And so suddenly you're like a chef, complete pen private chef, and you're making and devising meals. The pandemic and the child or child growing from baby to kid has made me somewhat it's still stressful, but somewhat enjoy cooking. 00:54:20 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I have to. You have to learn to enjoy it, I guess. 00:54:23 Speaker 2: So it's a force like you better enjoy this because guess what you're gonna be doing three times a day. 00:54:28 Speaker 4: Well, and it's a little puzzle you have to solve because you're like, what will make everyone happy? 00:54:32 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:54:32 Speaker 4: Yeah, again, this is why I can't do it. Don't have the strength. 00:54:37 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's like you're forced in the situation and. 00:54:39 Speaker 4: You you have to Your body learns. 00:54:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just learns like I would if I didn't have kids, I'd be like, screw that. No, I want to eat fucko bell and that's it. 00:54:51 Speaker 4: I think we should play a game. Okay, We're gonna play a game called Gift Master. Ok I need a number between one and ten from you. 00:54:59 Speaker 2: Six. 00:55:00 Speaker 4: Okay, six is the number. I have to do some light calculating while I do this. You can promote, recommend, just talk to the listener about whatever you want. 00:55:07 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you know if any i gosh, I have so many podcasts. But I have a podcast that Bridget was actually on called Bible Brothers, in which we are reading the Bible for the first time, me and my co host, Robert Padnick. We've never read the Bible, so we're reading through the Bible for the first time in our lives and just talking about it. And you know, the Bible's an interesting book. I'm not sure if anyone's heard that. Then I have a new podcast called Man Thinkers, which is a satire of red pilled in cells and alt right intellectual dark web types where we interview real people. We've had some really interesting guest doctors and we give it to them. But I play a character, Dan Finkelstein, who's a real Ben Shapiro type. And then I wrote for a TV show called Miracle Workers, which is out now in twenty two twenty three period. That's the end, beautiful. I'm ready to play. You got it? 00:56:04 Speaker 4: All that new podcast sounds incredible. 00:56:07 Speaker 2: It's fun again. You know, there's so much stuff out there. Does anyone care? That's hard to say. 00:56:12 Speaker 4: People want people as in the day. That's sure, they're driving, it's first sitting at work, they're cleaning the dishes. There are so many things you can do you can't. 00:56:21 Speaker 2: Do, So give man thinkers a listen. We're gonna have this really interesting guy on, David Sinclair, who is a Harvard professor of like anti aging. Oh and because now you know, people are saying we're gonna live forever. I know, it sounds really exhausting, and so he's like at the real forefront of this. So we're gonna talk to this guy. 00:56:41 Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, yeah, I'm very curious about the anti aging thing. Is it going to trap us on earth? Or like, are we going to get to die? 00:56:49 Speaker 2: We're coming up with some great like Philip K. Dick and Kurt Vonneguet style short stories here. We've got like the Ai content kind of black mirroring going. And then I think, yes, being alive forever and being trapped is something. 00:57:03 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolutely something. Imagine being trapped in Las Vegas and just see that's. 00:57:08 Speaker 2: Where it becomes the problem with Las Vegas is if you stay for more than two days or something, you're like that. I was like, if I stayed any longer, I would die. But I did it the right amount, which is like a day two. 00:57:19 Speaker 4: Days, right, And apologies to the Las Vegas listener listener, And yeah, the people who like about Las Vegas. 00:57:26 Speaker 2: I did good food, well, yes, that's the thing. That's why they have just international cuisine. Of the last restaurants we the other time that I went that I enjoyed myself and did Vegas my way, not the partying we went to. There's a lot of great Chinese restaurants off the strip because there's just a large Chinese population there. 00:57:47 Speaker 4: There's a good Thai food as well. I've had some of the best taype food of my life in Las Vegas. 00:57:52 Speaker 2: Lotus of Siam was that There's I think that's where I've been. Yeah. 00:57:54 Speaker 4: Delicious, Yeah, and it was delicious, incredible restaurant. Okay, I'm sorry to swing up back to Las Vegas. 00:58:01 Speaker 2: We need to play the game. Play that game. 00:58:03 Speaker 4: The game is called Gift Master. I'm gonna tell you three gifts, three things you can give away, okay, and then I'm going to give you tell you three celebrities. You're going to tell me which celebrity you'll give which gift and why. 00:58:13 Speaker 2: Okay. 00:58:14 Speaker 4: The gifts you're giving are Number one a bustling dental practice. 00:58:20 Speaker 2: Bustling so they the person would have to run the dental practice. This is up to you. Okay, Sorry, I'm not dental practice. Good for them. 00:58:29 Speaker 4: Number two is a sewing machine, okay. And number three is a menacing voicemail. 00:58:35 Speaker 2: A menacing voicemail as a gift as a gift my choice. 00:58:39 Speaker 4: Okay, You're going to be giving them to Yoyoma, a world renowned musician, Yoyoma. Number two Helen Hunt, love Helen Hunt. And number three Venus Williams not Venus. 00:58:54 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Venus Okay, I'm going to give the menacing voicemail to Yoyoma, okay, because I think it would inspire some great cello work. Yeah, almost like a David Lynch movie or something. It seems like it would terrify him so badly that the only way he could like describe it is through a cello solo and he's. 00:59:16 Speaker 4: Just PERU, Yeah, I can see that being the beginning of the movie. And then he's like, what do I have to do to make this go away? And then you're following him trying to create this piece of music the entire time, and it's driving him insane. 00:59:25 Speaker 2: There you go, and it turns out he just you know, he could have just asked Dan Klein and I've been like, yeah, I just I just sent that to you. Sorry. I thought it would be a nice S gift. Yes, yeah, I don't know. Well, because I didn't want to give you the dental practice because I know you're busy. I give Helen Hunt the dental practice because I can see her being a dentist, a dental assistant, or the receptionist. 00:59:52 Speaker 4: I mean, here's a movie Helen Hunt in every role at the dental test. 00:59:57 Speaker 2: Yes, she's doing a Clumps style movie, Eddie Murphy playing all the roles in a bustling dental office. I just love that it's bustling because it's it's the dentist is I imagine it's so well liked that everyone's like, I'm going, that's all you gotta go to this dentist. 01:00:15 Speaker 4: It's like holiday shopping. 01:00:16 Speaker 2: All yeah, excuse me, like people in the hallways. 01:00:20 Speaker 4: It's like Macy's on the day before Christmas. 01:00:22 Speaker 2: My mom worked in a dental office. She's a dental hygienist. And how was that? Well, you know, it has it's there's some pros and cons to it. The pros you get free dental work. The con as you spend in order to emit amount of time in a dental office and you don't actually learn or I didn't learn how to really take care of my teeth. And for years I didn't have dental insurance because I was a struggling writer, right, And so it led to some real problems. 01:00:52 Speaker 4: And this was with your mom being in the business, and she didn't instill these things, these values in you. 01:00:57 Speaker 2: I think she tried to, but you know what's that saying, like, you know the shoemaker's kids shoes or the cobblers kids shoes or crap. But it's say, like the mechanic guitar is bad, you know, but it's like that you don't want to bring your home your work home with you, I think, And so I think her doing it, she didn't. You know, she probably did what she thought was good, but maybe it wasn't as helpful. I mean whatever, I just wasn't doing a good job and I didn't care. And I was in my twenties. 01:01:26 Speaker 4: Or whatever, resented her in the daste of business and you wanted to show teacher a lesson whow. 01:01:31 Speaker 2: Yes where I gave you revenge by being late and I gave my mom revenge by having bleeding gums for ten years. So that's going to Helen because she's gonna make a killer Helen movies. I guess as the guests, And then I thought, venus, you know, she's retired. I didn't know that. Maybe she's I don't know anything about I think she's retired. Okay, say she's retired, but I'm like, why not try something new? 01:01:58 Speaker 4: Right? I can see her at a sewing machine. She's got styles she. 01:02:02 Speaker 2: Does, She's got style she got grace. Why not say hey, why I can make this? Because Helen I could almost be already doing that kind of stuff as like you know, out there actor. She probably makes pottery or something. She doesn't need another machine. She needs a dental office. 01:02:14 Speaker 4: She doesn't need another machine. Helen has got plenty of machines, got machines surrounded by machine. 01:02:20 Speaker 2: When I first started as a writer, I was accidentally on an email where an assistant at my agency at the time accidentally c C to everyone, oh and didn't b CC. First of all, I don't think it was meant to send it to everyone anyway, but didn't b CC everyone. So I got some famous people's emails and I saw Helen Hunt's email. I will tell you it isn't dot com. 01:02:46 Speaker 4: Dress, of course, you know, like rich people, yes. 01:02:49 Speaker 2: Exactly, they don't have to I remember when I worked at Funny or Die. Will Ferrell was there and he had a BlackBerry way too late, and it was like, O, because he doesn't have to have a he doesn't want a phone. Someone else is going to take care of it. And it was so upsetting to know how much money I had to spend, how much of the percentage of my salary, I had to spend on a phone and a laptop that this guy doesn't even like, shouldn't use for his own sanity. 01:03:18 Speaker 4: He's free, he's free, absolutely free. 01:03:21 Speaker 2: Yes, but then you get so free that you become crazy because you're isolated and things that don't shouldn't exist. 01:03:26 Speaker 4: Any dental practice practice. 01:03:29 Speaker 2: And you're doing all the jobs and you're certainly not multiple employees. Yeah, you got to do a lot of stuff, Helen. 01:03:36 Speaker 4: I'd love to be Helen's dentist. 01:03:38 Speaker 2: See what those teeth are like, just look around, get in there, get some X rays, going to extra a lot we. 01:03:47 Speaker 4: Got to do more Like it starts to become alarming. 01:03:49 Speaker 2: It's like that was the coolest part of the being at a dental office as a child, is that that was in the old days where they had to do real X rays and then develop them in the dark room. Whoa yeah, I used to go and then like the stinky chemicals of like sulfur. Yeah, and that like spinning to not let any light in and it was only red lights. 01:04:11 Speaker 4: I vaguely remember this. 01:04:14 Speaker 2: I remember a photography class in middle school or high school two that involved that stuff. Oh, I love real film. 01:04:20 Speaker 4: Yeah, where you got to go into the dark room or whatever and screw around exactly. 01:04:24 Speaker 2: Just I mean, and everyone was screwing around in mister Solakowski's photography class. 01:04:29 Speaker 4: Come on, we were in Ms. Moulten's class. She was wonderful. She really didn't care what was happening. 01:04:34 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. There were some teachers that didn't care, but you were like, yeah, we were on the same level. Like, I'm not I'm gonna take advantage in that. I'm gonna goof around a little bit, but I'm keeping it contained. I'm not like gonna cause trouble, not a menace. No, you're not, because we there's some connection here. We're seeing eyed eye. You don't want to teach, I don't want to learn. 01:04:56 Speaker 4: You're twenty four, I eighteen. Yes, yeah, essentially the same. 01:04:59 Speaker 2: Yeah, were the same kind of people think you're way older than me. For some reason, you seem beyond I remember I had a college professor who was like, she's really young, and then like a couple of years later, she was a waiter at a restaurant that I was at. Because like it was just like an associate professor job. The university was probably like saving money. Yeah, and she's probably like, yeah, I'll teach like French for a little bit and then figure out my life. Because I just graduated. 01:05:26 Speaker 4: I had a college professor once enter. The class was called, and this is in his defense, the class was called how Things Work. It was a very low level physics class. 01:05:36 Speaker 2: That's cool. 01:05:37 Speaker 4: He entered the first day on rollerblades as like kind of a little show. 01:05:40 Speaker 2: Can you believe How Things Work? I mean I would watch it on YouTube. I've literally like watched how how Things Are Made? Of course I like that stuff. 01:05:48 Speaker 4: I mean I didn't learn anything in this class, and I did a very bad job. Physics is a hard thing for me to wrap my head around. 01:05:54 Speaker 2: You know, and weirdly for me, physics was the But this was I took physics in high school, and I'd do any science in college. Well, I did, like astronomy. Oh I started, And I remember I had a panicked phone call with my dad that was like because I was going to study film, and I was like, I think I should be doing science, like this is I think is real and is better, and he was like get out of here, like you love making movies. 01:06:19 Speaker 4: Wow, that's incredible. That's the opposite of any parent. 01:06:21 Speaker 2: I know. It was really surprising, and yeah, he was. I don't think I would want to do that. I guess I would like to know more. I liked it. I enjoyed it in a different way. Maybe right, But how do you do that as a hobby? 01:06:33 Speaker 4: Now, Well, you buy like a model rocket, or you invest in Elon's space company or something. Oh god, yes, yeah, okay, Well you did a beautiful job with the game. Was gorgeously played. This is the last segment of the podcast. It's called I Said No Emails people write into I Said No Gifts at gmail dot com. My listeners their lives are absolute messes. Every one of them seems to have a problem and they have no one to turn to in their own lives. So they listen to a podcast and develop a relationship with me that they're emailing me and begging for help, and so occasionally I say, I'll help fine, will you help me. 01:07:15 Speaker 2: I'll try my best because they're asking for your help. 01:07:17 Speaker 4: Will This is deer Bridger and Guests. Oh okay, so I feel like you qualify. Okay, deer Bridger and guest, I am looking for a thank you gift for my sixty year old father that he will actually use. My wife and I bought a house in April twenty twenty two, and my dad has been incredibly helpful with home repairs. He retired last year from a career in software engineering, and he's very handy with home repairs. In the last several months, he replaced several sprinkler valves, and rewired the system, updated our guest bathroom fixtures. I mean the details were getting here is insane. That's the thing which involved removing tile and detailed plumbing work. Helps diagnose a problem with the wiring in my car, not even in the house. He can't tell the difference between a house and a car. Apparently and rewired our air conditioning unit. I'm having a hard time here air conditioning unit after an encounter with a weed whacker. Okay, that's why I was struggling. I couldn't figure out what was half an encounter. My dad has saved us thousands of dollars since we bought the house. I know he likes having a project, but he truly has done hours of manual labor for free. A month ago, when working on the sprinklers, we gifted him a nice wheelbarrow. Bad gift, that's my Oh okay, since the one he was using is from the eighties and a bit rusty. What can we give my dad to show her appreciation for all his work the last several months. He's not a sentimental man and would not accept cash or gift cards from us. He likes watching basketball thrilling, and he plays golf several days a week. All the best, Liz, we're talking about a real guys guy here. 01:08:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, And where do they don't say? Like where they live? 01:08:53 Speaker 4: No, they live in a beautiful house. 01:08:56 Speaker 2: We don't know where they're from. They said basketball. And I'm also a basketball so I was gonna say, what about tickets to a basketball game? But I don't know if they're near any basketball or another basketball thing. If it's sorry, I'm just diving run. 01:09:10 Speaker 4: I mean, you're certainly more qualified to. 01:09:11 Speaker 2: Because this was my other this is my other Vegas trip was I went to something called the NBA Summer League, which is where like the new draft picks and like young players play in like a tournament basically, And so. 01:09:28 Speaker 4: You're watching kind of a shadow NBA. 01:09:31 Speaker 2: Yes, And but it has like a film festival vibe because there's real players there watching their new young teammates weird and there, and there's like two gyms going on at once. So you're watching these like NBA level players up close for very cheap. Wow. And it's like a nice atmosphere because no one cares, but everyone's like, I just want to see some good basketball, right, So it was a blast. I had so much fun. So you could send your dad to NBA Summer. 01:10:00 Speaker 4: League and they get tickets or anything. 01:10:02 Speaker 2: It's easy to get tickets, and the tickets were forty dollars well for a whole day of basketball's and it's like it was I mean we probably saw like three game parts of three games, but you there's probably like eight games a day. 01:10:17 Speaker 4: Wow. Yeah, that's a perfect gift. I mean, a cheap vage trip to Vegas is not that expensive, especially if it's by bus. 01:10:23 Speaker 2: And yes, we know now one of the buses might be kind of rough. 01:10:28 Speaker 4: This guy can he can handle anything. 01:10:30 Speaker 2: There's also if your dad already doesn't subscribe the NBA League Pass, okay, and that is like you, I've got other gift ideas too. Does he like to read? 01:10:40 Speaker 4: He doesn't like to read. He hates reading. 01:10:41 Speaker 2: He hates the written words. 01:10:45 Speaker 4: I would love if this email said he likes watching basketball, grilling and he hates the written word. 01:10:49 Speaker 2: Did he say they said grilling? 01:10:51 Speaker 4: He does love grilling. 01:10:52 Speaker 2: What about wood pellet grill? Oh, do you want one of those? Well, that's when we talk talk about smoking. That's the best way to do it. But I don't. I own a charcoal grill, which I kind of like. 01:11:03 Speaker 4: You like the taste of the charcoal. 01:11:05 Speaker 2: Well, and I like that the the smoking is a little bit more, is less like I just put it in and like you're because on wood pillot grills. And again I could just feel the listeners just racing it. He's talking about the difference between a charcoal and a wood pillot grill. Well, maybe the dad will like it. Wood pellic grill, you could just put a thing in and set it to the temperature and it just does it. Where's charcoal is a little bit more of like you got to keep your hands on it if you're making the fire. You're right, I guess I like, I don't know, it can be just I guess I Well, it's where I'm comfortable. I wouldn't say I like it, but it certainly is how I live my life. 01:11:41 Speaker 4: Yeah, you thrive in a bit of just I took the bus, why truly wild I took. 01:11:49 Speaker 2: I chose to take the bus. So wood pellic grill wag you beef grills, beef. This guy save thousands of dollars, you could afford it. 01:12:01 Speaker 4: I mean, yet the thousands have been saved here. And I mean I have nothing to say. I mean, I was just confused about the air conditioning getting attacked by a weed whacker. 01:12:09 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious about that. And cach please right back, sir. 01:12:14 Speaker 4: Ma'am, ma'am. This is Liz, Liz. 01:12:19 Speaker 2: She Yeah. 01:12:20 Speaker 4: I mean, I think, if nothing else, just keep creating projects for dad to work on. I think that's what he wants. 01:12:25 Speaker 2: It seems like he needs something. Also, there's like, I mean, I don't know if he would do that, but there's those like cool adult legos. Have you seen those? It's like they do it's like architecture. So to be like, what's that guy that does the houses that everyone likes, the cool looking like square houses, falling water or whatever. 01:12:48 Speaker 4: They do like him humiliated? 01:12:49 Speaker 2: I can't think think we know who it is though, but is that right? Yes? They do like you can get like a Frank Lloyd Wright like lego thing. Oh oh, and it is like officially Lego. Yeah, they do a Lego. You could build a Lego typewriter that doesn't fully work but functions. 01:13:09 Speaker 4: And it certainly won't work for you. 01:13:10 Speaker 2: No, I can't. Funting and pecking is not the way to do it. 01:13:14 Speaker 4: I'd like to look into that type. I've never built a Lego thing. My brother would always build them for me, which has led to later in life problems. 01:13:21 Speaker 2: To build anything. Yeah, maybe you should kill a project for you. You should get out there start rewiring. That's crazy. It's not like my dad hung up some pictures or run up a shelf. Rewiring problems. 01:13:36 Speaker 4: Yeah, keep this guy around, I mean, and you probably should pay him. He's probably quietly resenting her. 01:13:43 Speaker 2: Yes, just more about okay, and more gifts. A nice knife, a nice oh yeah, you know, a nice quality knife, quality knife, A kind of cheap out on knives. Yes, and it's get a really good one. 01:13:57 Speaker 4: Yeah, like a two hundred dollars Is that a good price for a knife? 01:14:00 Speaker 2: To go even higher? 01:14:00 Speaker 4: But yes, thousand dollars knife Victor RICKX or whatever. Isn't that something? 01:14:05 Speaker 2: It's there's some like Swiss brand, or like a Japanese or Germans. 01:14:10 Speaker 4: Germans making some German and Japanese. They know how to work with a piece of steel cutting board. 01:14:18 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking of gifts that I should be getting people too. 01:14:20 Speaker 4: I mean, you're an excellent dad gift to giver. 01:14:22 Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm a better giver than a receiver. I'm terrible at receiving gifts. You are, Yeah, because like in my family, it just was not prioritized at all, and so I'm just like uncomfortable. I'm so uncomfortable getting a gift. Yeah. 01:14:36 Speaker 4: I just saw he didn't love this picture that my love it. I'm gonna put it up on my fridge. And people were like, oh, who's Jonah. 01:14:43 Speaker 2: I'm like, he's a boy. 01:14:46 Speaker 4: I haven't met him. 01:14:47 Speaker 2: And they're like, police, this is a boy that I know, a very young boy. He drew me a mouse. Yeah that's how he thinks of me. 01:14:57 Speaker 4: We answered, I mean you you just and more picked up that job and took care of the season. 01:15:04 Speaker 2: Yeah, I care so much, but I think about the dad so much. You know, is that going to be me? 01:15:09 Speaker 4: That's true, and you're gonna want do valuable you know meaningful gift. 01:15:13 Speaker 2: You know, I did ask. I told my wife. I was like, for my birthday this year, I just want Jonah to get me whatever. I just want to know what he would. 01:15:23 Speaker 4: Get, what he thinks of you or what you like. 01:15:24 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he gave me a lump of hole. Now he gave me he hates me. He got me the uh stuffed h stuffed animal of like Hulk. Oh you know, and he's sleeping. Oh so and I was like, I like this, that's wonderful. I thought so too. I was like, that's a great gift. 01:15:42 Speaker 4: Why is the Hulk sleeping? 01:15:43 Speaker 2: I think they have a few, you know, like it. It's probably for them. It's just the money thing that's like, well, this one's sleeping, this one anything, he's taking a shower like, it's just Hulk throughout his day. I don't know. I think it's to calm the kids down. I have no idea, to be honest, I didn't ask that question. 01:15:59 Speaker 4: Not a thing I associate with the Hulk. 01:16:01 Speaker 2: Because my son has one of Winnie the Pooh sleeping. 01:16:03 Speaker 4: Winnie the Poop punching somebody out. 01:16:05 Speaker 2: Yes he's not yet throwing a build freaking out. That's what happens with the hog. He freaks out. 01:16:09 Speaker 4: I think he freaks out. 01:16:10 Speaker 2: It's funny that they've they're just indoctrinating children out because like Spider Man has a show for like toddlers. 01:16:18 Speaker 4: Oh, so they have it for every level, every line of just like Boil the Frogs. 01:16:23 Speaker 2: I was saying that, Yes, Like, don't you think they're gonna start coming out with like old ones. 01:16:27 Speaker 4: Oh, they're definitely going to like where Spider Man's like dealing with retirements or whatever. 01:16:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely think that's gonna start coming soon to Like we got to keep these guys on the hook. 01:16:38 Speaker 4: Like Iron Man can no longer eat spicy food or something. 01:16:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh he can't have night shade vegetables. He gives him reflux. Golf clubs. 01:16:49 Speaker 4: Yeah, golf clubs. I mean he's golfing several days. 01:16:51 Speaker 2: A week for the dad. 01:16:54 Speaker 4: Both the iron Man and the Dead iron Man must be golfing. 01:16:57 Speaker 2: He seems like a golfer. He seems like a golfer. It's sad that I actually thought this year, I was like, I'm starting to understand. I think white people like golf, which has I've always hated it. 01:17:08 Speaker 4: Do you golf? 01:17:08 Speaker 2: No? I've just i'd I find it, if anything, to be disturbing, just like disturbing that you're just like what you just like take up all this space, so much land and water, yes, like for what? And then now I'm like, and I have. I went to in Los feel As. There is that pitch and putt. Oh, sure, like a three that was? I think that's what it's called pitch and. 01:17:31 Speaker 4: Put where you just go to a thing and hit balls. 01:17:33 Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's a driving range. A pitch and put is like three stroke small holes. Yes, but for like it's a little bit you need, like you essentially need a pitching no, a sandwich no, a wedge of some iron of some kind of pitching pitching wedge, yes, and a putter. That's you could do it with just those two, right, So I went on craigslist and I bought used ones. I bought two of those, and me and my friends all shared two of the clubs because no one else had them, but we did it. And I was like, I see why this is fun. You go out there, you can smoke whatever you want, you can drink whatever you want. No one's gonna bother you. And everyone's like, got these coolers on wheels and you're essentially pictured. That's what I didn't realize is what's going on on these golf. 01:18:19 Speaker 4: Courses than a bowling alley. 01:18:22 Speaker 2: It is trashier than a bowling alley because and but you're getting some movement in and you're hanging out with some friends. 01:18:28 Speaker 4: Probably I know, I like the driving range. 01:18:31 Speaker 2: I didn't realize this. 01:18:33 Speaker 4: I'll never go. Well, I say that now you might. Then we'll probably end up golf. 01:18:36 Speaker 2: That pitching put is like six bucks because it's a public thing. 01:18:40 Speaker 4: Well, I've got the Scottish in me, and I feel like the Scott's invented golf. 01:18:44 Speaker 3: Right. 01:18:44 Speaker 2: It seems like I was gonna I was gonna be like it seems Scottish. But then I'm realizing that's like a Robin Williams bit from like the eighties. I think, yeah, he's talking about like we're gonna hit the ball all the way into you know, I can't do Sorry, I'm doing the wrong accents, but the whole you know, and like like the idea of being wasted and just like smacking a ball, a tiny ball really far into a tiny hole is just like an insane game idea. It's a wild game. It's a wild idea for a game. Every other game is pretty much like it's. 01:19:14 Speaker 4: Immediate contained you. 01:19:18 Speaker 2: You can't even see it. 01:19:19 Speaker 4: You have to just trust that there's a hole, that there's something very far along. 01:19:22 Speaker 2: They're sort of in nature, but not really. You cleaned it up a bit for some reason. For you, you've made it indoors. Essentially, you did make nature kind of. It's just a lot of carpet. Have you ever been to Pebble Beach is up by Monterey? No. 01:19:38 Speaker 4: I thought Pebble Beach was in Florida. 01:19:42 Speaker 2: I it sounds like, come on, Pebble Beach sounds like Florida. It sounds like it's sounds like, yeah, oh, pebble Beach. Yeah, there is a beach. It's probably just Koopa Beach or but anyway, but Pebble Beach would be a great Mario car track and a great trashy beach in Florida. But it is a beautiful golf course up by Mono, right, Okay, it's cliff side, gorgeous and you can pay money, which I did to drive around it without golfing. But I was like, this is the most beautiful golf course I've ever seen. And but then you're like, but wouldn't it be a lot more beautiful if it wasn't a golf. 01:20:16 Speaker 4: Course just nature? 01:20:18 Speaker 2: So you're like, well, yeah, this is sort of the b minus of what. It's nice certainly, but you know, the natural surroundings of if downgraded northern California are unbeatable and you put a golf course there. Wow. Yeah yeah, Pebble Beach not the place you would think. 01:20:38 Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, you've really shattered my reality. 01:20:40 Speaker 2: It seems like where you would go on like a family vacation or something and be like this is a little too trashy, like Ocean City, Maryland's. So that was we did that from New Jersey. 01:20:52 Speaker 4: Oh that makes sense, and. 01:20:53 Speaker 2: Many New Jersey shore prices, your wild woods, you're they should all be called pebble Beach. It should just be like, yes, or that should be the name of Like we thought it was gonna be nice, but it was more like a pebble beach. You just know. 01:21:07 Speaker 4: Well, I think we we answered Liz's question perfectly. Oh yeah, her dad's going to be absolutely showered with gifts. 01:21:13 Speaker 2: Yeah. 01:21:14 Speaker 4: I hope it's kind of causing Liz more in gifts than she could have should have just paid a contract or knives and so much basketball stuff, and she's ruined. She's gonna have to sell the house. 01:21:26 Speaker 2: Shame too, because it's got great where. 01:21:28 Speaker 4: You're just housing a car to boot ye walking up and running. Good luck Liz, Good luck Dan. I've now got this beautiful piece of art, gorgeous. You're going to take this bag home with you, Yes, this peapad, and I'm happy for both of us. 01:21:48 Speaker 2: I think we you know what. The deal we struck here was a fair one, a perfect deal. Deal. Everybody got a little something. No one's thrilled, but we got a good compromise. 01:21:59 Speaker 4: I would love to wrap up a conversation on this podcast with Dan. I'm not thrilled with the way this went. Not thrilled bad, but I'm not saying it was bad. I'm just saying I'm being realistic here. 01:22:09 Speaker 2: It was fine. It's fine, and that's good for me. Yeah, most of my life is very painful. It could be bad, things could be horrible out in the real world. But this was okay, it was pleasant, it was fine. It's gonna be way better when you go back inside to your warm home, get under some covers, maybe. 01:22:26 Speaker 4: I have to go to a friend's house after this. 01:22:28 Speaker 2: Oh, you do stuff. 01:22:29 Speaker 4: This has been a long time coming, and I'm committed to a thing and I'm you know, I don't know. 01:22:34 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll be in bed within hours. 01:22:38 Speaker 4: I baked cookies for this. Really, I've been a whirlwind today. 01:22:42 Speaker 2: You bake, though, I bake because I say you the cooking was such a like cooking. So your cookies is your cookies? And are you just following recipes? Are you going nuts out there? 01:22:55 Speaker 4: I follow recipes and then I bend them to my own will. And the kind of cookies we're talking tonight, I mean it's almost always chocolate chip cookies, just different variations of the form. 01:23:03 Speaker 2: What do we got tonight? 01:23:04 Speaker 4: They have finally chopped while nut in them, I used a variety of flowers. 01:23:09 Speaker 2: M Yeah, that's always nice. Give it a little more omph, Yeah, a little more oomph. 01:23:14 Speaker 4: Any coco to it for an extra chocolate boost? Lovely, I think they're gonna be good. 01:23:19 Speaker 2: That sounds great. 01:23:20 Speaker 4: You said you bake. 01:23:21 Speaker 2: I did a little bit during the pandemic. Well, Kelly really got into the whole sour dough thing, oh right, which was awesome because she really was getting better. It was interesting to see someone getting better. I don't know if I've seen that, like a skill improving. Yeah, like adult, does anyone do that anything? Does anyone get better at things anymore? We only get worse or stay the same. So it's really cool to be like, these are really good. So we had great bread, incredible warm bread. 01:23:46 Speaker 4: It was so good. 01:23:47 Speaker 2: It smells so good. That was great. I baked a few things from various cookbooks. But were there any hitting Yes, there was a hit that I should make again. It was from the woman who owns Squirrel, that restaurant. 01:24:00 Speaker 4: Oh sure, kind of you know, like, yes, had some trouble. 01:24:03 Speaker 2: Had some trouble which worked out great for me as a fan of that restaurant. That was like, okay, there would you just be less people here? 01:24:08 Speaker 4: Empty jam? 01:24:10 Speaker 2: Yeah. But she had a thing that was a ginger carrot loaf. Oh so sort of a yes, a bread, kind of a quick bread of sorts, ginger and carrot delicious, you know that kind of cinnamon spicy stuff and then on top black sesame seeds and it gives it this nice crunchy crust on top. It sounds incredible. It was really good. It was easy to make very easy. I made it and I'm not a baker. 01:24:37 Speaker 4: Of And were you eating as like a breakfast food. 01:24:40 Speaker 2: We were doing it as a treat, I think. But you could have it at breakfast, that'd be cool. 01:24:45 Speaker 4: Yeah. If something doesn't have chocolate and a baked good, I just assume it's a breadthreast. 01:24:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what. Yeah, it could be. It'd be nice as a bread. 01:24:51 Speaker 4: That bread sounds incredible. 01:24:52 Speaker 2: It is really good and it's I made it for my in laws, and again I spoke, they're good bakers. They're good cooks. So that was like I could they were wowed by it, and they were wowed. I would love to wow a crowd. To wow a crowd of people who have been cooking for you for like a decade now that I've made nothing for them, was vindicating. You know, it is good for all of us. 01:25:11 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna look that recipe up listener. You should too, send it to Please. Please don't make me do the work, don't you dare. I'm not gonna lift a finger. 01:25:19 Speaker 2: You don't do a thing. You go straight to your friend's house and you get there, there will be an email. 01:25:24 Speaker 4: Just sitting there waiting for me. Dan No, I've really had a wonderful time. I'm so happy you could remember this at the last. 01:25:32 Speaker 2: Sir, and rush over dangerously. 01:25:36 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for being Thank you so much for having me listener. The podcast is over. We're wrapping it up. It's time to move on with your day or do whatever you do at the end of the podcast. I really don't know that it's any of my business. A routine they have, they've got a routine. Everybody's got a routine. 01:25:53 Speaker 2: Turn the winding down of the podcast. 01:25:55 Speaker 4: Yeah, they know. They've been thinking for a few minutes. 01:25:57 Speaker 2: Time. 01:25:57 Speaker 4: I got to get doing my next thing. Got to start sending a threatening email to Bridger or I've got to start doing whatever. 01:26:03 Speaker 2: Threatening voicemail to yo yo ma ah. 01:26:08 Speaker 4: No, listener, go do whatever you want. Maybe insist your coworker listen to the podcast. I don't know, do whatever you want. Don't be a nuisance. Okay, we've got to end the podcast. I love you, goodbye, I said. No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nilson and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squilatchi and we couldn't do it without our guest booker Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle Worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said, no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:26:54 Speaker 2: Line? Why did you hear? 01:26:58 Speaker 1: Thuna man? Myself perfickly clear, But you're I guess to my home. You gotta come to me empty? And I said, no, guess, You're own presences, presents enough. 01:27:16 Speaker 3: I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me