WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Maud Crawford

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<v Speaker 2>On March second, nineteen fifty seven, sixty five year old

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<v Speaker 2>Maude Crawford, who is one of the most well known

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<v Speaker 2>women in her hometown of Camden, Arkansas, after she made history,

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<v Speaker 2>is the only female attorney to ever practice law.

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<v Speaker 3>There was stringing beans at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Maud and her husband Clyde lived in a stately two

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<v Speaker 2>story historic home on Clipton Street in Camden, but on

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<v Speaker 2>that night, Maud was on her own. Clyde had gone

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<v Speaker 2>out to see a movie, and she had her Dalmatian dog, Dow,

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<v Speaker 2>who was her constant companion at her side. After his

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<v Speaker 2>night out, Clyde arrived home at around eleven thirty pm.

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<v Speaker 3>He saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maud's car, a blue Tudor nineteen fifty six Mercury sedan,

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<v Speaker 2>was in the back driveway. The keys were in the ignition,

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<v Speaker 2>the way that Maud usually left them there. The lights

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<v Speaker 2>in the house and on both porches were still on,

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<v Speaker 2>so Clyde walked inside.

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<v Speaker 3>Clyde later told investigators.

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<v Speaker 2>That he wasn't immediately alarmed that night when he got

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<v Speaker 2>home because everything seemed so normal. The TV was on

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<v Speaker 2>and the pan of string beans that Maud had been

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<v Speaker 2>snapping was sitting beside the chair.

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<v Speaker 3>That she normally sat in.

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<v Speaker 2>He looked all over the house for his wife and

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<v Speaker 2>found nothing. Her clothes were still in the closet, her

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<v Speaker 2>purse was in the living room, and there was money

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<v Speaker 2>in the wallet. Her dog, who usually freaked out if

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<v Speaker 2>anyone approached her, was unharmed and resting peacefully on the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing was missing except Maud. It's as if she had

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<v Speaker 2>literally stepped out of the room for a minute, but

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<v Speaker 2>then she never came back. I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the

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<v Speaker 2>hell and. Gonepod this Is hell And Gone Murder. Line

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<v Speaker 2>clyde waited a couple of hours to see if mob

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<v Speaker 2>would come back. Home after one, am he got in

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<v Speaker 2>his truck and started driving around town to look for,

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<v Speaker 2>her thinking maybe she had been involved in a car,

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<v Speaker 2>accident but after no, luck the next day he reported

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<v Speaker 2>her missing to The Camden Police. Department police came to

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<v Speaker 2>the residence and searched the surrounding, area but they found

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<v Speaker 2>no sign Of. Maud Maud crawford was born On june twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>second eighteen ninety, one In, Greenville. Texas her mother died

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<v Speaker 2>when she was nine years, old so she ended up

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<v Speaker 2>moving To, Warren arkansas to live with her. Grandmother maud

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<v Speaker 2>was smart and. Talented she thrived at her high, school

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<v Speaker 2>where she was. Valedictorian she went on to college at

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<v Speaker 2>The university Of arkansas At, bayble But maud dropped out

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<v Speaker 2>after her first. Year she went on to get a

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<v Speaker 2>job as a secretary at a law firm in nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixteen maud had big dreams of becoming a, lawyer but

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<v Speaker 2>at the, time the state Of arkansas did not allow

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<v Speaker 2>women to practice. Law they were allowed into the state

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<v Speaker 2>bar for the first time in nineteen, seventeen So maud

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<v Speaker 2>had not gone to law.

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<v Speaker 3>School she hadn't even graduated from.

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<v Speaker 2>College But maud was determined to pursue a legal, career

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<v Speaker 2>and she found a. Way at the, time you were

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to sit for the bar exam without going to

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<v Speaker 2>law school if you could prove you had the. Knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>it was a system they called read for the.

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<v Speaker 3>Law so that's What maud.

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<v Speaker 2>Did she had a tremendous amount of. Knowledge so she

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<v Speaker 2>sat for the bar exam in nineteen twenty seven and

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<v Speaker 2>she passed that. Year she was admitted to The Arkansas State.

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<v Speaker 2>Bar she became the first female attorney In. Camden not

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<v Speaker 2>only did she pass the bar by the, way she

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<v Speaker 2>scored the highest score on The Arkansas Bar. Exam maud

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<v Speaker 2>made history in a lot of different. Ways she was

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<v Speaker 2>also the first woman elected ever to The Camden City.

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<v Speaker 2>Council she was very passionate about helping and mentoring. Women

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<v Speaker 2>was a member of The business And Professional Women's, club

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<v Speaker 2>The American Legion auxiliary and The Pilot, club among. Others around,

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<v Speaker 2>town everyone knew her As Miss. Maud maud married her

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<v Speaker 2>Husband Clyde Folwell crawford in nineteen twenty. Five from the,

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<v Speaker 2>Beginning maud was the. Breadwinner clyde didn't really have a regular.

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<v Speaker 2>Job he was described in media reports as a cabinet.

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<v Speaker 2>Maker he did odd jobs assembling, furniture and he had

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<v Speaker 2>a woodworking shop in the back of the. House maud

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<v Speaker 2>And clyde never had, children but over the years they

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of borders in their, home mainly single

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<v Speaker 2>young women in the Rambling colonial house and every Night

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<v Speaker 2>clyde had a. Routine he would go to the movie

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<v Speaker 2>theater The malco and sit through movies by. Himself according

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<v Speaker 2>to media, reports some people around town said he would

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<v Speaker 2>also sometimes spy.

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<v Speaker 3>On the young couples who were making out in the. Dark.

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<v Speaker 2>There people around town Thought clyde was a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Weird he would run around town by himself and drank

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much every, night which even, now and especially back

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty seven could make a guy in a

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<v Speaker 2>Small arkansas town the subject of speculation and. Gossip But

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<v Speaker 2>clyde was cooperative with. Police they found no evidence to

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<v Speaker 2>indicate that he was involved in any way In maud's.

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<v Speaker 2>Disappearance if someone did Take maud against her will or

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<v Speaker 2>lure her out of the, house what was their?

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<v Speaker 3>Motive it was clearly not.

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<v Speaker 2>Robbery since nothing was, missing there was zero evidence that

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<v Speaker 2>foul play had happened at the. House maud had money

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty two dollars still sitting in her,

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<v Speaker 2>purse which back then was a significant amount of. Money

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<v Speaker 2>there was no sign of a struggle inside the, home

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<v Speaker 2>so one early theory was That maud may have left,

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<v Speaker 2>voluntarily or that she was lured out of the house by.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone who wanted her.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone Since maud's car was still there with the keys in,

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<v Speaker 2>it presumably someone would have to pick her.

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<v Speaker 3>Up but who and Why.

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<v Speaker 2>The theory About maud leaving on her own became less

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<v Speaker 2>and less likely as time. Passed if she wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>leave of her own free, will it seemed unlikely she

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<v Speaker 2>would literally walk out of her entire life and leave

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely everything she owned, behind including her beloved, dog who

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<v Speaker 2>never left her.

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<v Speaker 3>Side police started reaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Out to people who had recent contact With, bond and

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<v Speaker 2>this was a long and varied list Because maud did

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<v Speaker 2>legal work for a lot of people and some of

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<v Speaker 2>them were very.

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<v Speaker 3>Powerful one name that was mentioned WAS Us Senator john.

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<v Speaker 2>McClellan senator McClellan was at the time chairman of A

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<v Speaker 2>senate inquiry into organized, crime so one possibility that the

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<v Speaker 2>police reportedly looked into was That maud might have been

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<v Speaker 2>kidnapped by the, Mob but there was no threat or

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<v Speaker 2>ransom note ever, received and the mob, theory in my,

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<v Speaker 2>opinion didn't really make a ton of, sense because even

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<v Speaker 2>if the mob wanted to Target senator, McLellan the link

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<v Speaker 2>between him And Maud crawford was. Supertenuous they didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>work at the firm at the same. Time two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>After maud's, disappearance The Camden Police CHIEF Gb cole was

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<v Speaker 2>quoted and The Camden news is saying we have not

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<v Speaker 2>turned up a single. Clue The Arkansas State police were

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<v Speaker 2>brought in to take over the. Investigation law enforcement continued

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<v Speaker 2>to focus On maud's timeline the day of her, disappearance

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<v Speaker 2>and they found she had had a lot going. On

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<v Speaker 2>they talked To Ida Belle, Tinsley maud's sixty year old

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<v Speaker 2>housekeeper who'd been working for her and her husband for fourteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Years ida said she got to the home at four

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty Clifton street at around eight. Am she told, Investigators

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<v Speaker 2>maud spent the day working at the kitchen table on

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<v Speaker 2>her legal papers like she usually. Did ida made some

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<v Speaker 2>lunch and they ate together around, noon and Then maud continued.

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<v Speaker 2>Working ida Said maud was still pouring over those papers

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<v Speaker 2>when she.

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<v Speaker 3>Left at around one thirty that.

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<v Speaker 2>Afternoon ida told Police maud appeared to be completely.

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<v Speaker 3>Normal she was in a good. Mood that.

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<v Speaker 2>Day at around two THIRTY, pm someone who worked in

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<v Speaker 2>a local furniture store came over To maud's.

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<v Speaker 3>House she was there for a while measuring some.

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<v Speaker 2>Drapes maud was really excited to finally be doing renovations

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<v Speaker 2>on her, house she told the woman measuring the.

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<v Speaker 3>Drape she had waited years to do.

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<v Speaker 2>This she had also taken out a loan of several

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars to fund. It the fact that she was

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to this project and seemed happy was just

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<v Speaker 2>one more reason why people didn't think she would just

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly disappear. Voluntarily the furniture store employee Left maud's house

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<v Speaker 2>at around four pm that. Day she later told police

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Either, then

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<v Speaker 2>at five, Pm maud put a leash On dal and

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<v Speaker 2>took him for a, walk which was part of their daily.

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<v Speaker 2>Routine she stopped at a nearby corner store to buy.

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<v Speaker 2>Groceries she grabbed some green, beans and when the clerk

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<v Speaker 2>rang her.

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<v Speaker 3>Up he talked To.

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<v Speaker 2>Maud he said she made the purchase in a usual.

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<v Speaker 2>Manner maud made a comment to the grocery store clerk

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<v Speaker 2>about saving her some more beans For monday because of

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<v Speaker 2>how much her husband liked. Them maud got home from

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<v Speaker 2>that daily walk at five thirty. Pm since it had

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<v Speaker 2>already started, raining the dog was. Wet the coat That

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<v Speaker 2>maud was wearing was also, wet So maud took her

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<v Speaker 2>wet clothes and shoes out on the back porch and

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<v Speaker 2>left them. There she spread the coat over a chair

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<v Speaker 2>so it would. Dry after, that it was. Dinnertime maud

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<v Speaker 2>Cooked clyde a supper of steak and, eggs which he

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<v Speaker 2>ate at six. Pm clyde left the house at around

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<v Speaker 2>six thirty. Pm he drove his red truck To Main

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<v Speaker 2>street And camden and parked in his usual spot right

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<v Speaker 2>in front.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Bird's jewelry.

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<v Speaker 2>Store clyde then went into The Malco theater to see

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<v Speaker 2>the movie among her other. Chores that, day back at the,

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<v Speaker 2>House maud was getting ready for her, Cousin Martha, carver

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<v Speaker 2>And martha's husband and three year old child to come

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<v Speaker 2>visit that. Weekend martha and her husband were planning to

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<v Speaker 2>spend That saturday night At, maud's But martha and her

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<v Speaker 2>family went to a friend's house once they got to,

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<v Speaker 2>Town So martha Called maud at around eight thirty pm

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<v Speaker 2>and talked to. Her When maud asked if they were

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<v Speaker 2>coming over that, Night martha said she and her family

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<v Speaker 2>were going to stay at the friend's house, instead but

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<v Speaker 2>she made plans With maud to have dinner on another.

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<v Speaker 2>Night martha later told detectives that when she Told maud

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't coming over to the house that.

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<v Speaker 3>Night maud sounded short with.

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<v Speaker 2>Her When martha hung up the, phone she turned around

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<v Speaker 2>and told her husband That maud was peeved at. Her

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<v Speaker 2>that was the last known conversation that anyone had With

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<v Speaker 2>maud at Around at the same time eight, Thirty clyde

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<v Speaker 2>was coming out of the. Theater by the, Way since

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<v Speaker 2>it's important to cover all bases during that crucial window

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<v Speaker 2>of time After maud was last known to be, ALIVE

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<v Speaker 2>i should say there's no definitive proof That clyde stayed

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<v Speaker 2>for the whole. Movie police did try to verify, that

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<v Speaker 2>but they reportedly didn't find a ticket or an usher

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<v Speaker 2>or another person who could Say clyde was definitely. There

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of other people Saw clyde around town that.

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<v Speaker 2>Night After clyde's movie ended at around eight, thirty he

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<v Speaker 2>went to a newsstand where he talked to the, Owner Guy,

0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.840
<v Speaker 2>pennington who was his good. Friend they chatted until around

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<v Speaker 2>nine TEN. Pm Then clyde got back in his truck

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<v Speaker 2>and drove To carter's liquor. Store he talked to another

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<v Speaker 2>one of his friends there who worked At carter's and

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<v Speaker 2>also had a few more. Beers while drinking his, Beers

0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:39.840
<v Speaker 2>clyde watched THE tv at the liquor. Store now this

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<v Speaker 2>sounds a little bit, odd but apparently this was part

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<v Speaker 2>Of clyde's.

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<v Speaker 3>Routine he went into the liquor store every night to WATCH.

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<v Speaker 2>Tv, normally he would watch until exactly ten fifteen, pm

0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.400
<v Speaker 2>when the weather report on the evening news. Ended but that,

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<v Speaker 2>night after the weather, Report clyde started watching A tv

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<v Speaker 2>movie and after about half an, hour at ten forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>pm he made a comment about it getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Laid he left and drove.

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<v Speaker 2>Home clyde arrived home between eleven and eleven thirty pm

0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:13.040
<v Speaker 2>to find all Of maud's stuff, there their Dog, dal

0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:17.080
<v Speaker 2>who was usually high. Strung in, fact people were actually

0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.160
<v Speaker 2>afraid to Approach maud's dog If maud wasn't with, him

0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:24.000
<v Speaker 2>But clyde later told police that night the dog seemed totally,

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<v Speaker 2>calm So clyde WATCHED tv at home for a little.

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<v Speaker 3>While he wasn't worried at.

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<v Speaker 2>First he thought Maybe maud had gone out with one

0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.160
<v Speaker 2>of the four young women who board it. Upstairs sometimes

0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:35.760
<v Speaker 2>she would go to the drive in with them or

0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.360
<v Speaker 2>out to get some. Food he went into his bedroom

0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.160
<v Speaker 2>and put on his, pajamas cracked open another, beer and

0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:45.560
<v Speaker 2>started reading a detective, novel but he couldn't. Sleep at

0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:48.800
<v Speaker 2>one fifteen, am when she still wasn't, back he looked

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<v Speaker 2>at the newspaper to see if there was a late,

0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:53.400
<v Speaker 2>show a midnight. Show he saw that there, was and,

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<v Speaker 2>so thinking maybe she went to, That clyde got back

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<v Speaker 2>in his truck and drove around again around the theater

0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.000
<v Speaker 2>to see if he could Find maud, there but she wasn't,

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<v Speaker 2>there so he came back home again and that's when

0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:08.680
<v Speaker 2>he said he noticed That maud's car was parked at

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<v Speaker 2>the rear of the, house where she always left it

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<v Speaker 2>and where it had been two hours earlier when he

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<v Speaker 2>first got. Home the garage is in the back of

0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the house and it's a little bit of a walk

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<v Speaker 2>between the house and the. Garage once he saw That

0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.080
<v Speaker 2>maud's car was, There clyde got back in his, truck

0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.000
<v Speaker 2>drove around town, again and when he didn't find her that,

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<v Speaker 2>time he walked straight into The Camden police station and

0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:33.760
<v Speaker 2>asked if there had been any car.

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<v Speaker 3>Wrecks after he left the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Station at around two twenty five, Am clyde went back.

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<v Speaker 2>Home he stayed there until around four, thirty then he

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<v Speaker 2>drove and did one more round of looking For. Maud

0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:51.240
<v Speaker 2>the next, morning he started Contacting maud's, friends but no

0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.680
<v Speaker 2>one had seen. Her that's When clyde called the police

0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:59.800
<v Speaker 2>and officially Reported maud. Missing of, course police looked Into

0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.080
<v Speaker 2>clyde as a. Suspect first of, all people in town

0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.640
<v Speaker 2>thought he was. Odd clyde had.

0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Served In World War one.

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<v Speaker 2>And after he got back about ten years into his

0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.080
<v Speaker 2>marriage With, maud so around twenty two years Before maud,

0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Disappeared clyde had had a mental. Breakdown there are not

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of details about what exactly happened With, clyde

0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.240
<v Speaker 2>but he was very open about the fact that he

0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.960
<v Speaker 2>had had a breakdown And maud had nursed him through.

0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:30.760
<v Speaker 2>It after, That maud became more like a mother than

0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.520
<v Speaker 2>a wife To, clyde and they started sleeping in separate.

0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Bedrooms over the, Years maud And.

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<v Speaker 2>Clyde got along really, well but they were an unconventional.

0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Couple they had separate.

0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Routines clyde's told Police maud lived her life and he lived.

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<v Speaker 2>His according to police, documents investigators did explore the possibility

0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:54.440
<v Speaker 2>That clyde might have planned her murder for a period of.

0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Time they were suspicious because on That saturday, night the

0:17:58.120 --> 0:18:02.040
<v Speaker 2>night When maud went, missing very, unusually all four of

0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.080
<v Speaker 2>the boarders who lived upstairs With maud And clyde had

0:18:05.120 --> 0:18:08.520
<v Speaker 2>other plans or were away that, Weekend and it does

0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.440
<v Speaker 2>seem like quite a coincidence that between the cousin and

0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the baby and the, borders there should have been at

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<v Speaker 2>least four and as many as seven people in the

0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.040
<v Speaker 2>house other Than clyde And maud that, night but for

0:18:20.120 --> 0:18:23.040
<v Speaker 2>one reason or, Another maud and her husband were in

0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.280
<v Speaker 2>the house. Alone but police struggled to find a reason

0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:32.120
<v Speaker 2>Why clyde would Kill maud or, who if, anyone could

0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:40.200
<v Speaker 2>have been out to get. Her there was a life

0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:43.280
<v Speaker 2>insurance policy for ten thousand, dollars but even though that

0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.920
<v Speaker 2>was more money in nineteen fifty seven than it is,

0:18:46.000 --> 0:18:49.360
<v Speaker 2>now it's around one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars in today's,

0:18:49.360 --> 0:18:53.600
<v Speaker 2>money it's still not a massive. Amount maud was the

0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:56.680
<v Speaker 2>one bringing money into the, home and there's absolutely no

0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.800
<v Speaker 2>indication That clyde had any other reason for wanting or.

0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Gone in, Fact maud was clearly worth a lot more

0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:08.240
<v Speaker 2>alive than, dead and on a personal, Level clyde seemed

0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:13.200
<v Speaker 2>devastated by her. Disappearance police wondered If maud's legal career

0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:16.960
<v Speaker 2>could provide some. Clues investigators review the cases that she

0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:19.880
<v Speaker 2>had been working on in an effort to determine whether

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<v Speaker 2>she had been involved in any disputes or litigation anything

0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:28.120
<v Speaker 2>that might provide possible motive for foul. Play maud's career

0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:31.760
<v Speaker 2>as a real estate attorney. Flourished she developed an outstanding.

0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Reputation she worked on a lot of big oil deals

0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and she was very well, respected but also had to

0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:41.640
<v Speaker 2>deal with her share of, sexism including from the men

0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:46.360
<v Speaker 2>in her own law, Firm, gaggin McClellan And. Laney according

0:19:46.360 --> 0:19:49.560
<v Speaker 2>to wit'smen, reported these guys seemed to kind of not

0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Let maud forget she started out as a. Secretary but

0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.680
<v Speaker 2>police didn't find any concrete information indicating that anyone had

0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.760
<v Speaker 2>been Threatening. Maud she had never made any comments about

0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:03.200
<v Speaker 2>being worried about her. Safety in, fact she had her.

0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Routines she lived her life pretty. Publicly officers checked with

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:12.160
<v Speaker 2>transportation companies in The camden, area including taxi services and.

0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.360
<v Speaker 2>Buses they were trying to figure out whether she left

0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.240
<v Speaker 2>town using any of those, methods but they never found

0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:20.920
<v Speaker 2>any record that she had left on her.

0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Own once The.

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas State police took over the, investigation they conducted searches

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<v Speaker 2>of roads and wooded areas inside and outside the city.

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<v Speaker 2>Limits they found no trace Of. Maud police did interview

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<v Speaker 2>a man Named Ray miller On march, night a week

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<v Speaker 2>After maud. Disappeared he claimed that he Saw maud on

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<v Speaker 2>the evening Of march twenty, second nineteen fifty, seven that

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<v Speaker 2>she was near the Down town area at approximately eight thirty.

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 2>Pm he said when he Saw, maud she appeared to

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<v Speaker 2>be alone and that she seemed. Fine he said he

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 2>didn't talk To, maud but he said he recognized. Her

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 2>he knew her as the prominent attorney in. Town he

0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:01.680
<v Speaker 2>had seen her around on several occasions. Before police officers

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.160
<v Speaker 2>tried to confirm this, sighting but they were unable to do.

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<v Speaker 3>So maud's case was big.

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<v Speaker 2>NEWS a reward was, announced THE fbi got, involved and

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<v Speaker 2>The governor Of, Arkansas Orval, faubus said he wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>be personally updated on the progress of this, case but

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<v Speaker 2>after a while it went. Cold in nineteen sixty, nine

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<v Speaker 2>The Probate court Of Washata county declared Maud crawford dead

0:21:26.360 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 2>and said she had likely been a victim of foul. Play,

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<v Speaker 2>then in nineteen eighty, Six Beth, brokel an, actress screenwriter

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<v Speaker 2>and producer who was a native Of, camden came back

0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 2>home and tried to help crack the. Case according To Ay,

0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:44.400
<v Speaker 2>magazine best agent At cia told her.

0:21:44.360 --> 0:21:47.600
<v Speaker 3>The story would make a great. Movie So beth had an.

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<v Speaker 2>Idea she was going to research this case and write

0:21:50.360 --> 0:21:53.440
<v Speaker 2>a screenplay about. It beth came To camden with a.

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<v Speaker 2>Plan that's what she Told Ay.

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 3>Magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>QUOTE i planned to ask questions for three, weeks write

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<v Speaker 2>a rough draft of a screenplay in three, weeks and

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<v Speaker 2>return TO LA i learned within the first week that

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the case had never been properly, investigated AND i decided

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.920
<v Speaker 2>to forget the screenplay for the time being and put

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<v Speaker 2>on my investigative reporter hat.

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<v Speaker 3>Instead end. QUOTE i really relate To.

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<v Speaker 2>Beth when she said, that because there are a lot

0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:22.120
<v Speaker 2>of parallels between what she did and she experienced and

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<v Speaker 2>WHAT i. Experienced going back To arkansas to investigate The

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Rebecca gould case in twenty, eighteen even though it had

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<v Speaker 2>been thirty years Since man. Disappeared she found out a

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:34.000
<v Speaker 2>lot of people were afraid to talk to, her and

0:22:34.240 --> 0:22:40.840
<v Speaker 2>she said she got. Threats beth wrote a series of

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<v Speaker 2>articles for The Arkansas, gazette but the story got bigger

0:22:44.360 --> 0:22:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Than beth ever expected because after the first article was

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 2>published in The Arkansas, gazette the newspaper was threatened with

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:54.200
<v Speaker 2>a lawsuit if they continued their, Coverage but to the newspaper's,

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<v Speaker 2>credit The gazette back there. Reporter they kept publishing articles

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Speaker 2>over a series of five, months and best investigation centered

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<v Speaker 2>on someone who had been mentioned multiple times In maud's case,

0:23:04.600 --> 0:23:09.160
<v Speaker 2>file a woman named Rose berg and her, family specifically her,

0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>nephew The Arkansas State Police Commissioner Mike. Berg aside from

0:23:24.360 --> 0:23:27.200
<v Speaker 2>her passion for her legal, Work Maud crawford had a

0:23:27.280 --> 0:23:30.040
<v Speaker 2>lot of hobbies and interests that kept her, busy and

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to her job at the law, firm she

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<v Speaker 2>was also paid to be the personal guardian to a

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<v Speaker 2>woman Named Rose Newman. Berg Rose berg was an elderly

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 2>woman who lived across the street From maud And.

0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Clyde she was very.

0:23:42.800 --> 0:23:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Sick he was sick, physically and she also suffered from,

0:23:46.040 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 2>dementia so she needed care twenty four hours a. Day

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:52.640
<v Speaker 2>maud normally stopped by the house two to three times per.

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Day she paid the nurses and Helped rose with her legal.

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<v Speaker 2>Affairs rose was a very wealthy. Woman she had an

0:24:00.520 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 2>estate worth over twenty million. Dollars in nineteen fifty, five

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.760
<v Speaker 2>two years Before maud's, disappearance there was a competency. Hearing

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 2>The Washatah County court Declared rose, incompetent And maud was

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:18.120
<v Speaker 2>appointed her legal. Guardian Henry, Berg rose's, husband owned thousands

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:20.520
<v Speaker 2>of acres of land and of fortune in, oil royalties

0:24:20.520 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 2>and other. Assets he And rose had no. Children When

0:24:25.120 --> 0:24:28.440
<v Speaker 2>henry died in nineteen fifty according To best's reporting in The,

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 2>gazette he left his, Nephew, mike The Arkansas State police,

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.640
<v Speaker 2>commissioner a quarter of his. Fortune he left the rest

0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 2>of the money to his Wife. Rose Mike burg allegedly

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.240
<v Speaker 2>made comments to several people stating that he believed he

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:44.880
<v Speaker 2>was entitled to the rest of the estate because he

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 2>had partnered with his uncle and other family members in

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 2>a venture Called Bird.

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Brothers But rose made a will With maud's.

0:24:51.520 --> 0:24:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Assistance in that, will she left her entire fortune to

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:59.920
<v Speaker 2>her three. Nieces mike was completely cut. Out maud Was rose's,

0:24:59.960 --> 0:25:03.800
<v Speaker 2>adviser but she found herself in conflict not just With Mike,

0:25:03.840 --> 0:25:06.920
<v Speaker 2>bird but with an attorney at her own law, practice

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 2>one who worked closely With Mike. Burg her colleague scited With.

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:15.160
<v Speaker 2>Mike Mike burg challenged the, will and to back up

0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:18.760
<v Speaker 2>his claims That rose's will should be, Invalidated mike produced

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 2>real estate, documents documents that supposedly proved he owned some

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 2>of his aunt's. Land during best, investigation she located key

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 2>documents in The Hempstead County. Courthouse the first was a

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 2>landeed that transferred property From, rose who by then had

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>been declared and, competent to one Of mike's, employees and

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>then a second document later that same day transferring the

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:47.240
<v Speaker 2>land from the that employee To. Mike beth claims That

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.240
<v Speaker 2>mike promised two employees money for helping them with the

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 2>alleged document, scamp and then after the scheme was, completed

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.680
<v Speaker 2>one of the employees apparently asked for his promise cut

0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 2>of the, money But mike didn't come through with the

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 2>money that he, promised so in her, Reporting beth claimed

0:26:04.120 --> 0:26:05.360
<v Speaker 2>the employee went To.

0:26:05.360 --> 0:26:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Maud and complained that he hadn't been paid By Mike.

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Burr maud Confronted Mike Burg beth Told box sixteen. Quote

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<v Speaker 2>when she Left mike's, Office mike was heard, SAYING i

0:26:17.920 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 2>wish To god that bitch was. Dead she disappeared six

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 2>weeks later end. Quote Apparently maud figured out That mike's

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 2>real estate documents were, fraudulent And maud had been working

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 2>on getting those deeds declared null and. Void maud was,

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.200
<v Speaker 2>smart SO i believe she probably would have been. Successful

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:40.400
<v Speaker 2>the evidence was there in black and, white and she

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:44.920
<v Speaker 2>was preparing a lawsuit Against Mike. Burn according to the case,

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 2>file police Interviewed rose's nurses because remember she had twenty

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>four hour nursing. Care they lived right across the street

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<v Speaker 2>From maud And. Clyde the nurse that was on duty

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<v Speaker 2>on That friday night Before maud Disappeared March, first said

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<v Speaker 2>That maud came over To rose's house at around seven

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<v Speaker 2>thirty or eight pm that. Evening she also came by

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<v Speaker 2>On saturday. Morning, now Normally maud would stop by two

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<v Speaker 2>or three times a, day but the nurse said that

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<v Speaker 2>was the last time that she saw her In rose's.

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<v Speaker 2>Home Beth brakel stated at a talk at The Fayetteville

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<v Speaker 2>Public library in twenty twenty three that she believed someone

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<v Speaker 2>drove To maud's house between nine thirty and TEN, pm

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<v Speaker 2>and That maud left the home with that. Person so

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<v Speaker 2>why Wasn't Mike berg questioned at the, time this was

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<v Speaker 2>just one of many questions that were raised about the

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<v Speaker 2>case file and the status of the. Investigation it turned

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<v Speaker 2>Out Mike berg was not only a person with a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of, money he also had a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Power he was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Head of The Arkansas State Police, commission which is made

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<v Speaker 2>up of seven, members all appointed by The governor Of.

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<v Speaker 2>Arkansas now at the, time The governor Of arkansas Was Arable,

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<v Speaker 2>faubus and remember he was asking for personal updates on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Case the commission controls The Arkansas State, police So mike

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<v Speaker 2>was the guy in charge of the group that.

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<v Speaker 3>Was in charge of The Arkansas State.

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<v Speaker 2>Police this seems like a massive conflict of interest and one,

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<v Speaker 2>that to my, knowledge was never. Addressed one of the

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<v Speaker 2>People beth interviewed Was Otis. Henley he was the ORIGINAL

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>asp detective on the. Case he said his investigation pointed

0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>To Mike, burr and he said he reported what.

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<v Speaker 3>He found to his, Boss Alan. Templeton after, That.

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<v Speaker 2>Otis Told beth he was, told, quote there's too much money,

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<v Speaker 2>involved end, quote and that he later got taken off

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>the case and his case files. Disappeared beth claimed there

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.720
<v Speaker 2>were other items potentially missing from the case, file including a.

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Receipt clyde Sold maud's car after she, disappeared and the

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 2>buyer told police that he and a friend found a

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 2>grocery store receipt under the car's front. Seat they noticed

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>it was Dated march, second nineteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven The devemont.

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<v Speaker 2>Disappeared they turned the piece of paper over and they

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<v Speaker 2>saw a phone number scribbled on, It thinking it might be,

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<v Speaker 2>Important dawn Told beth he gave the receipt to the.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Police he was told it would be added to the case.

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<v Speaker 2>File it's unclear what happened to that. Receipt After Beth

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.760
<v Speaker 2>brockel's articles were, published The Arkansas State police started working

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<v Speaker 2>on the case, again this time focusing On mike Burd

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 2>but a lot of time had passed and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the people who had been around and who could

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 2>potentially have had information were Debt one of the people

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<v Speaker 2>they most wanted to talk to Was Mike berg's, Bodyguard Jack.

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Doris the prosecuting attorney Subpoenaed Jack, doris but he was

0:29:37.440 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 2>already terminally ill with. Cancer an officer showed up to question,

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>him and he literally lee died right before law enforcement

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>had a chance to ask him any. Questions Mike berg

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 2>also passed. Away he died in nineteen seventy, five so

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<v Speaker 2>in the, end police never made any statements confirming his,

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<v Speaker 2>guilt and no one was ever arrested or. Charged in

0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, One Beth brackel did an interview With mitch

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<v Speaker 2>McCoy Of fox Sixteen. News she told him she'd actually

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<v Speaker 2>Met maud, once back in the early nineteen fifties when

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<v Speaker 2>she was in junior high. School beth said she remembered

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 2>going over To maud's house And maud being lovely and

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 2>kind to. Her beth said she Believes Mike berg's position

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 2>as An Arkansas State police commissioner played a key role

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<v Speaker 2>in him being.

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<v Speaker 3>Able to avoid.

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<v Speaker 2>Justice she Told fox sixteen quote he was used to

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:38.960
<v Speaker 2>getting everyone to do what he wanted to, do either

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<v Speaker 2>by bribing him with gifts or by. Intimidation neither tactic

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:46.960
<v Speaker 2>would work on matd craft end. Quote beth published reprints

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<v Speaker 2>of her articles in The gazette in a book Called

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<v Speaker 2>The disappearance Of Maud. Crawford she went on to write

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<v Speaker 2>two more. Books if you're interested in the, case they

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<v Speaker 2>go into much more detail than we can do, here

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<v Speaker 2>AND i highly recommend anyone with an interest in the

0:30:59.920 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 2>case check them. Out beth gives a lot more details

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<v Speaker 2>in her articles and books about the alleged real estate.

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<v Speaker 2>Fraud maud was in contact With rose's. Nieces she allegedly

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:15.800
<v Speaker 2>told them she had information that would Expose mike's efforts

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>to falsify. Information rose died in nineteen sixty and after her,

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 2>death her nieces were unable to locate the will That

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 2>maud assisted her.

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<v Speaker 3>With there were supposed to be multiple.

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 2>Copies including one in a safety deposit, box but none wherever.

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<v Speaker 2>Found in the, End mike berg inherited the entire twenty

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 2>million dollar. Fortune he settled with the nieces a year,

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<v Speaker 2>later giving them one hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>each the. Rest there was a lot of circumstantial. Evidence

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<v Speaker 2>maud found documents showing That rose Transferred mike over twelve thousand,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 2>acres sixty two, properties and a bunch of oil. Royalties

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<v Speaker 2>and these documents Had rose's signature on, them but it

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>was described By beth as being a shaky. Signature and

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<v Speaker 2>remember this was After rose had been declared. Incompetent but

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<v Speaker 2>even with all, that police never made a case Against Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Byrd neither he nor anyone else has been arrested in

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 2>connection With maud's disappearance And. Clyde maud's family and friends

0:32:21.840 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 2>in the community never learned what actually happened to. Her,

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<v Speaker 2>eventually The Clifton street house was, sold so there's nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to Commemorate maud's many historic.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Achievements she doesn't even have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Gravestone Camden Mayor Julian latt has stated he hopes to

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<v Speaker 2>change that and to find a way to Honor maude's

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<v Speaker 2>memory in the near.

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<v Speaker 3>Future even with all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the circumstantial evidence That beth, uncovered there is one

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<v Speaker 2>huge missing piece in this, puzzle and that Is maud's.

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<v Speaker 2>Body police Believe maud was killed shortly after she. Disappeared

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<v Speaker 2>When beth was asked if she had any theories about

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<v Speaker 2>Where maud's remains might be, Buried beth said she thinks

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<v Speaker 2>police should search land belonging To Mike burgh's family in

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<v Speaker 2>an area Called Berg. Lake to this, Day Maud crawford's

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<v Speaker 2>body has never been. Found I'm Katherine. Townsend this Is

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