1 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: School of Humans. Helen Got Murder Line actively investigates cold 2 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: case murders in an effort to raise public awareness invite 3 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: witnesses to come forward and present evidence that could potentially 4 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: be further investigated by law enforcement. While we value insights 5 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: from family and community members, their statements should not be 6 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: considered evidence and point to the challenges of verifying facts 7 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: inherent in cold cases. 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Thanks for listening. 12 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: On March second, nineteen fifty seven, sixty five year old 13 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: Maude Crawford, who is one of the most well known 14 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: women in her hometown of Camden, Arkansas, after she made history, 15 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: is the only female attorney to ever practice law. 16 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: There was stringing beans at home. 17 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: Maud and her husband Clyde lived in a stately two 18 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: story historic home on Clipton Street in Camden, but on 19 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: that night, Maud was on her own. Clyde had gone 20 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: out to see a movie, and she had her Dalmatian dog, Dow, 21 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: who was her constant companion at her side. After his 22 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: night out, Clyde arrived home at around eleven thirty pm. 23 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: He saw that. 24 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: Maud's car, a blue Tudor nineteen fifty six Mercury sedan, 25 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: was in the back driveway. The keys were in the ignition, 26 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: the way that Maud usually left them there. The lights 27 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 2: in the house and on both porches were still on, 28 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: so Clyde walked inside. 29 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: Clyde later told investigators. 30 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: That he wasn't immediately alarmed that night when he got 31 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: home because everything seemed so normal. The TV was on 32 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 2: and the pan of string beans that Maud had been 33 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 2: snapping was sitting beside the chair. 34 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: That she normally sat in. 35 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: He looked all over the house for his wife and 36 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: found nothing. Her clothes were still in the closet, her 37 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: purse was in the living room, and there was money 38 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: in the wallet. Her dog, who usually freaked out if 39 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: anyone approached her, was unharmed and resting peacefully on the floor. 40 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: Nothing was missing except Maud. It's as if she had 41 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: literally stepped out of the room for a minute, but 42 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: then she never came back. I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the 43 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: past eight years of making my true crime podcast Helen Gone. 44 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: I've learned that there's no such thing as a small 45 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: town where murder never happens. I have received hundreds of 46 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: messages from people all around the country asking for help 47 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 2: with an unsolved murder that's affected them, their families, and 48 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: their communities. 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Home after one, am he got in 57 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: his truck and started driving around town to look for, 58 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: her thinking maybe she had been involved in a car, 59 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 2: accident but after no, luck the next day he reported 60 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: her missing to The Camden Police. Department police came to 61 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: the residence and searched the surrounding, area but they found 62 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: no sign Of. Maud Maud crawford was born On june twenty, 63 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: second eighteen ninety, one In, Greenville. Texas her mother died 64 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: when she was nine years, old so she ended up 65 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: moving To, Warren arkansas to live with her. Grandmother maud 66 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: was smart and. Talented she thrived at her high, school 67 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: where she was. Valedictorian she went on to college at 68 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: The university Of arkansas At, bayble But maud dropped out 69 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: after her first. Year she went on to get a 70 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: job as a secretary at a law firm in nineteen. 71 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Sixteen maud had big dreams of becoming a, lawyer but 72 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: at the, time the state Of arkansas did not allow 73 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: women to practice. Law they were allowed into the state 74 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: bar for the first time in nineteen, seventeen So maud 75 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: had not gone to law. 76 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 3: School she hadn't even graduated from. 77 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: College But maud was determined to pursue a legal, career 78 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: and she found a. Way at the, time you were 79 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 2: allowed to sit for the bar exam without going to 80 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: law school if you could prove you had the. Knowledge 81 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: it was a system they called read for the. 82 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: Law so that's What maud. 83 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 2: Did she had a tremendous amount of. Knowledge so she 84 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: sat for the bar exam in nineteen twenty seven and 85 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: she passed that. Year she was admitted to The Arkansas State. 86 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: Bar she became the first female attorney In. Camden not 87 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: only did she pass the bar by the, way she 88 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: scored the highest score on The Arkansas Bar. Exam maud 89 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: made history in a lot of different. Ways she was 90 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: also the first woman elected ever to The Camden City. 91 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 2: Council she was very passionate about helping and mentoring. Women 92 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: was a member of The business And Professional Women's, club 93 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: The American Legion auxiliary and The Pilot, club among. Others around, 94 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: town everyone knew her As Miss. Maud maud married her 95 00:06:55,840 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: Husband Clyde Folwell crawford in nineteen twenty. Five from the, 96 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: Beginning maud was the. Breadwinner clyde didn't really have a regular. 97 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: Job he was described in media reports as a cabinet. 98 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: Maker he did odd jobs assembling, furniture and he had 99 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: a woodworking shop in the back of the. House maud 100 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: And clyde never had, children but over the years they 101 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: had a lot of borders in their, home mainly single 102 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: young women in the Rambling colonial house and every Night 103 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: clyde had a. Routine he would go to the movie 104 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: theater The malco and sit through movies by. Himself according 105 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: to media, reports some people around town said he would 106 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 2: also sometimes spy. 107 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 3: On the young couples who were making out in the. Dark. 108 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: There people around town Thought clyde was a little bit. 109 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: Weird he would run around town by himself and drank 110 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: pretty much every, night which even, now and especially back 111 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty seven could make a guy in a 112 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: Small arkansas town the subject of speculation and. Gossip But 113 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 2: clyde was cooperative with. Police they found no evidence to 114 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: indicate that he was involved in any way In maud's. 115 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: Disappearance if someone did Take maud against her will or 116 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: lure her out of the, house what was their? 117 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: Motive it was clearly not. 118 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: Robbery since nothing was, missing there was zero evidence that 119 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: foul play had happened at the. House maud had money 120 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty two dollars still sitting in her, 121 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: purse which back then was a significant amount of. Money 122 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 2: there was no sign of a struggle inside the, home 123 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: so one early theory was That maud may have left, 124 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: voluntarily or that she was lured out of the house by. 125 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: Someone who wanted her. 126 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 2: Gone Since maud's car was still there with the keys in, 127 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 2: it presumably someone would have to pick her. 128 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: Up but who and Why. 129 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: The theory About maud leaving on her own became less 130 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 2: and less likely as time. Passed if she wanted to 131 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: leave of her own free, will it seemed unlikely she 132 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: would literally walk out of her entire life and leave 133 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: absolutely everything she owned, behind including her beloved, dog who 134 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: never left her. 135 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: Side police started reaching. 136 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: Out to people who had recent contact With, bond and 137 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: this was a long and varied list Because maud did 138 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: legal work for a lot of people and some of 139 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: them were very. 140 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 3: Powerful one name that was mentioned WAS Us Senator john. 141 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: McClellan senator McClellan was at the time chairman of A 142 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: senate inquiry into organized, crime so one possibility that the 143 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: police reportedly looked into was That maud might have been 144 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: kidnapped by the, Mob but there was no threat or 145 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 2: ransom note ever, received and the mob, theory in my, 146 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: opinion didn't really make a ton of, sense because even 147 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: if the mob wanted to Target senator, McLellan the link 148 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: between him And Maud crawford was. Supertenuous they didn't even 149 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: work at the firm at the same. Time two weeks 150 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: After maud's, disappearance The Camden Police CHIEF Gb cole was 151 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: quoted and The Camden news is saying we have not 152 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: turned up a single. Clue The Arkansas State police were 153 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 2: brought in to take over the. Investigation law enforcement continued 154 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: to focus On maud's timeline the day of her, disappearance 155 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: and they found she had had a lot going. On 156 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: they talked To Ida Belle, Tinsley maud's sixty year old 157 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: housekeeper who'd been working for her and her husband for fourteen. 158 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: Years ida said she got to the home at four 159 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: Fifty Clifton street at around eight. Am she told, Investigators 160 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 2: maud spent the day working at the kitchen table on 161 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 2: her legal papers like she usually. Did ida made some 162 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 2: lunch and they ate together around, noon and Then maud continued. 163 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: Working ida Said maud was still pouring over those papers 164 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: when she. 165 00:10:56,680 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: Left at around one thirty that. 166 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: Afternoon ida told Police maud appeared to be completely. 167 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 3: Normal she was in a good. Mood that. 168 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: Day at around two THIRTY, pm someone who worked in 169 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: a local furniture store came over To maud's. 170 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 3: House she was there for a while measuring some. 171 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: Drapes maud was really excited to finally be doing renovations 172 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: on her, house she told the woman measuring the. 173 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 3: Drape she had waited years to do. 174 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: This she had also taken out a loan of several 175 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: thousand dollars to fund. It the fact that she was 176 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: looking forward to this project and seemed happy was just 177 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: one more reason why people didn't think she would just 178 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: suddenly disappear. Voluntarily the furniture store employee Left maud's house 179 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: at around four pm that. Day she later told police 180 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: she didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Either, then 181 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: at five, Pm maud put a leash On dal and 182 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 2: took him for a, walk which was part of their daily. 183 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: Routine she stopped at a nearby corner store to buy. 184 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: Groceries she grabbed some green, beans and when the clerk 185 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 2: rang her. 186 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: Up he talked To. 187 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: Maud he said she made the purchase in a usual. 188 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: Manner maud made a comment to the grocery store clerk 189 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: about saving her some more beans For monday because of 190 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: how much her husband liked. Them maud got home from 191 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: that daily walk at five thirty. Pm since it had 192 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: already started, raining the dog was. Wet the coat That 193 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: maud was wearing was also, wet So maud took her 194 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: wet clothes and shoes out on the back porch and 195 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: left them. There she spread the coat over a chair 196 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 2: so it would. Dry after, that it was. Dinnertime maud 197 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: Cooked clyde a supper of steak and, eggs which he 198 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: ate at six. Pm clyde left the house at around 199 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: six thirty. Pm he drove his red truck To Main 200 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: street And camden and parked in his usual spot right 201 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: in front. 202 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: Of Bird's jewelry. 203 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: Store clyde then went into The Malco theater to see 204 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 2: the movie among her other. Chores that, day back at the, 205 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: House maud was getting ready for her, Cousin Martha, carver 206 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: And martha's husband and three year old child to come 207 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: visit that. Weekend martha and her husband were planning to 208 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: spend That saturday night At, maud's But martha and her 209 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: family went to a friend's house once they got to, 210 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: Town So martha Called maud at around eight thirty pm 211 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 2: and talked to. Her When maud asked if they were 212 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: coming over that, Night martha said she and her family 213 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 2: were going to stay at the friend's house, instead but 214 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: she made plans With maud to have dinner on another. 215 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: Night martha later told detectives that when she Told maud 216 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: she wasn't coming over to the house that. 217 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 3: Night maud sounded short with. 218 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 2: Her When martha hung up the, phone she turned around 219 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: and told her husband That maud was peeved at. Her 220 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: that was the last known conversation that anyone had With 221 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: maud at Around at the same time eight, Thirty clyde 222 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 2: was coming out of the. Theater by the, Way since 223 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: it's important to cover all bases during that crucial window 224 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: of time After maud was last known to be, ALIVE 225 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: i should say there's no definitive proof That clyde stayed 226 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: for the whole. Movie police did try to verify, that 227 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: but they reportedly didn't find a ticket or an usher 228 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: or another person who could Say clyde was definitely. There 229 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: but a lot of other people Saw clyde around town that. 230 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: Night After clyde's movie ended at around eight, thirty he 231 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: went to a newsstand where he talked to the, Owner Guy, 232 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: pennington who was his good. Friend they chatted until around 233 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: nine TEN. Pm Then clyde got back in his truck 234 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: and drove To carter's liquor. Store he talked to another 235 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: one of his friends there who worked At carter's and 236 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: also had a few more. Beers while drinking his, Beers 237 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: clyde watched THE tv at the liquor. Store now this 238 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: sounds a little bit, odd but apparently this was part 239 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 2: Of clyde's. 240 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: Routine he went into the liquor store every night to WATCH. 241 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: Tv, normally he would watch until exactly ten fifteen, pm 242 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: when the weather report on the evening news. Ended but that, 243 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: night after the weather, Report clyde started watching A tv 244 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: movie and after about half an, hour at ten forty five, 245 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: pm he made a comment about it getting. 246 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: Laid he left and drove. 247 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: Home clyde arrived home between eleven and eleven thirty pm 248 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: to find all Of maud's stuff, there their Dog, dal 249 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: who was usually high. Strung in, fact people were actually 250 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: afraid to Approach maud's dog If maud wasn't with, him 251 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: But clyde later told police that night the dog seemed totally, 252 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: calm So clyde WATCHED tv at home for a little. 253 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: While he wasn't worried at. 254 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: First he thought Maybe maud had gone out with one 255 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: of the four young women who board it. Upstairs sometimes 256 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: she would go to the drive in with them or 257 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 2: out to get some. Food he went into his bedroom 258 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: and put on his, pajamas cracked open another, beer and 259 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: started reading a detective, novel but he couldn't. Sleep at 260 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: one fifteen, am when she still wasn't, back he looked 261 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: at the newspaper to see if there was a late, 262 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 2: show a midnight. Show he saw that there, was and, 263 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: so thinking maybe she went to, That clyde got back 264 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: in his truck and drove around again around the theater 265 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: to see if he could Find maud, there but she wasn't, 266 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: there so he came back home again and that's when 267 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: he said he noticed That maud's car was parked at 268 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: the rear of the, house where she always left it 269 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: and where it had been two hours earlier when he 270 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: first got. Home the garage is in the back of 271 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: the house and it's a little bit of a walk 272 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: between the house and the. Garage once he saw That 273 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: maud's car was, There clyde got back in his, truck 274 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: drove around town, again and when he didn't find her that, 275 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: time he walked straight into The Camden police station and 276 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: asked if there had been any car. 277 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: Wrecks after he left the police. 278 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: Station at around two twenty five, Am clyde went back. 279 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: Home he stayed there until around four, thirty then he 280 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: drove and did one more round of looking For. Maud 281 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: the next, morning he started Contacting maud's, friends but no 282 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: one had seen. Her that's When clyde called the police 283 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 2: and officially Reported maud. Missing of, course police looked Into 284 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: clyde as a. Suspect first of, all people in town 285 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: thought he was. Odd clyde had. 286 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: Served In World War one. 287 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: And after he got back about ten years into his 288 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: marriage With, maud so around twenty two years Before maud, 289 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 2: Disappeared clyde had had a mental. Breakdown there are not 290 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 2: a ton of details about what exactly happened With, clyde 291 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: but he was very open about the fact that he 292 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 2: had had a breakdown And maud had nursed him through. 293 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: It after, That maud became more like a mother than 294 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 2: a wife To, clyde and they started sleeping in separate. 295 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: Bedrooms over the, Years maud And. 296 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: Clyde got along really, well but they were an unconventional. 297 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: Couple they had separate. 298 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: Routines clyde's told Police maud lived her life and he lived. 299 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: His according to police, documents investigators did explore the possibility 300 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: That clyde might have planned her murder for a period of. 301 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: Time they were suspicious because on That saturday, night the 302 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: night When maud went, missing very, unusually all four of 303 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: the boarders who lived upstairs With maud And clyde had 304 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: other plans or were away that, Weekend and it does 305 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: seem like quite a coincidence that between the cousin and 306 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: the baby and the, borders there should have been at 307 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: least four and as many as seven people in the 308 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: house other Than clyde And maud that, night but for 309 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: one reason or, Another maud and her husband were in 310 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: the house. Alone but police struggled to find a reason 311 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: Why clyde would Kill maud or, who if, anyone could 312 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 2: have been out to get. Her there was a life 313 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: insurance policy for ten thousand, dollars but even though that 314 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: was more money in nineteen fifty seven than it is, 315 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: now it's around one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars in today's, 316 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: money it's still not a massive. Amount maud was the 317 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 2: one bringing money into the, home and there's absolutely no 318 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 2: indication That clyde had any other reason for wanting or. 319 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: Gone in, Fact maud was clearly worth a lot more 320 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: alive than, dead and on a personal, Level clyde seemed 321 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: devastated by her. Disappearance police wondered If maud's legal career 322 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: could provide some. Clues investigators review the cases that she 323 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: had been working on in an effort to determine whether 324 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: she had been involved in any disputes or litigation anything 325 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 2: that might provide possible motive for foul. Play maud's career 326 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: as a real estate attorney. Flourished she developed an outstanding. 327 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 2: Reputation she worked on a lot of big oil deals 328 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: and she was very well, respected but also had to 329 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 2: deal with her share of, sexism including from the men 330 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 2: in her own law, Firm, gaggin McClellan And. Laney according 331 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 2: to wit'smen, reported these guys seemed to kind of not 332 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: Let maud forget she started out as a. Secretary but 333 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: police didn't find any concrete information indicating that anyone had 334 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: been Threatening. Maud she had never made any comments about 335 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: being worried about her. Safety in, fact she had her. 336 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 2: Routines she lived her life pretty. Publicly officers checked with 337 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: transportation companies in The camden, area including taxi services and. 338 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: Buses they were trying to figure out whether she left 339 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: town using any of those, methods but they never found 340 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 2: any record that she had left on her. 341 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 3: Own once The. 342 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: Arkansas State police took over the, investigation they conducted searches 343 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: of roads and wooded areas inside and outside the city. 344 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Limits they found no trace Of. Maud police did interview 345 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: a man Named Ray miller On march, night a week 346 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: After maud. Disappeared he claimed that he Saw maud on 347 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: the evening Of march twenty, second nineteen fifty, seven that 348 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 2: she was near the Down town area at approximately eight thirty. 349 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 2: Pm he said when he Saw, maud she appeared to 350 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: be alone and that she seemed. Fine he said he 351 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: didn't talk To, maud but he said he recognized. Her 352 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: he knew her as the prominent attorney in. Town he 353 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: had seen her around on several occasions. Before police officers 354 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 2: tried to confirm this, sighting but they were unable to do. 355 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: So maud's case was big. 356 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: NEWS a reward was, announced THE fbi got, involved and 357 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: The governor Of, Arkansas Orval, faubus said he wanted to 358 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: be personally updated on the progress of this, case but 359 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: after a while it went. Cold in nineteen sixty, nine 360 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: The Probate court Of Washata county declared Maud crawford dead 361 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: and said she had likely been a victim of foul. Play, 362 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 2: then in nineteen eighty, Six Beth, brokel an, actress screenwriter 363 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 2: and producer who was a native Of, camden came back 364 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: home and tried to help crack the. Case according To Ay, 365 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 2: magazine best agent At cia told her. 366 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: The story would make a great. Movie So beth had an. 367 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: Idea she was going to research this case and write 368 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: a screenplay about. It beth came To camden with a. 369 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 2: Plan that's what she Told Ay. 370 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: Magazine. 371 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: QUOTE i planned to ask questions for three, weeks write 372 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: a rough draft of a screenplay in three, weeks and 373 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 2: return TO LA i learned within the first week that 374 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: the case had never been properly, investigated AND i decided 375 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: to forget the screenplay for the time being and put 376 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: on my investigative reporter hat. 377 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 3: Instead end. QUOTE i really relate To. 378 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: Beth when she said, that because there are a lot 379 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: of parallels between what she did and she experienced and 380 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: WHAT i. Experienced going back To arkansas to investigate The 381 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: Rebecca gould case in twenty, eighteen even though it had 382 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 2: been thirty years Since man. Disappeared she found out a 383 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: lot of people were afraid to talk to, her and 384 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: she said she got. Threats beth wrote a series of 385 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: articles for The Arkansas, gazette but the story got bigger 386 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 2: Than beth ever expected because after the first article was 387 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: published in The Arkansas, gazette the newspaper was threatened with 388 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: a lawsuit if they continued their, Coverage but to the newspaper's, 389 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: credit The gazette back there. Reporter they kept publishing articles 390 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: over a series of five, months and best investigation centered 391 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 2: on someone who had been mentioned multiple times In maud's case, 392 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: file a woman named Rose berg and her, family specifically her, 393 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: nephew The Arkansas State Police Commissioner Mike. Berg aside from 394 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: her passion for her legal, Work Maud crawford had a 395 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: lot of hobbies and interests that kept her, busy and 396 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 2: in addition to her job at the law, firm she 397 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: was also paid to be the personal guardian to a 398 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: woman Named Rose Newman. Berg Rose berg was an elderly 399 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: woman who lived across the street From maud And. 400 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: Clyde she was very. 401 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: Sick he was sick, physically and she also suffered from, 402 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: dementia so she needed care twenty four hours a. Day 403 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 2: maud normally stopped by the house two to three times per. 404 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: Day she paid the nurses and Helped rose with her legal. 405 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: Affairs rose was a very wealthy. Woman she had an 406 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: estate worth over twenty million. Dollars in nineteen fifty, five 407 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: two years Before maud's, disappearance there was a competency. Hearing 408 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: The Washatah County court Declared rose, incompetent And maud was 409 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 2: appointed her legal. Guardian Henry, Berg rose's, husband owned thousands 410 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: of acres of land and of fortune in, oil royalties 411 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: and other. Assets he And rose had no. Children When 412 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: henry died in nineteen fifty according To best's reporting in The, 413 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: gazette he left his, Nephew, mike The Arkansas State police, 414 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 2: commissioner a quarter of his. Fortune he left the rest 415 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 2: of the money to his Wife. Rose Mike burg allegedly 416 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: made comments to several people stating that he believed he 417 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 2: was entitled to the rest of the estate because he 418 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: had partnered with his uncle and other family members in 419 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: a venture Called Bird. 420 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: Brothers But rose made a will With maud's. 421 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 2: Assistance in that, will she left her entire fortune to 422 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: her three. Nieces mike was completely cut. Out maud Was rose's, 423 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: adviser but she found herself in conflict not just With Mike, 424 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 2: bird but with an attorney at her own law, practice 425 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 2: one who worked closely With Mike. Burg her colleague scited With. 426 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: Mike Mike burg challenged the, will and to back up 427 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: his claims That rose's will should be, Invalidated mike produced 428 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: real estate, documents documents that supposedly proved he owned some 429 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: of his aunt's. Land during best, investigation she located key 430 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 2: documents in The Hempstead County. Courthouse the first was a 431 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: landeed that transferred property From, rose who by then had 432 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: been declared and, competent to one Of mike's, employees and 433 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: then a second document later that same day transferring the 434 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 2: land from the that employee To. Mike beth claims That 435 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: mike promised two employees money for helping them with the 436 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: alleged document, scamp and then after the scheme was, completed 437 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 2: one of the employees apparently asked for his promise cut 438 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: of the, money But mike didn't come through with the 439 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: money that he, promised so in her, Reporting beth claimed 440 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: the employee went To. 441 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: Maud and complained that he hadn't been paid By Mike. 442 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: Burr maud Confronted Mike Burg beth Told box sixteen. Quote 443 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: when she Left mike's, Office mike was heard, SAYING i 444 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: wish To god that bitch was. Dead she disappeared six 445 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 2: weeks later end. Quote Apparently maud figured out That mike's 446 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: real estate documents were, fraudulent And maud had been working 447 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: on getting those deeds declared null and. Void maud was, 448 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: smart SO i believe she probably would have been. Successful 449 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: the evidence was there in black and, white and she 450 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 2: was preparing a lawsuit Against Mike. Burn according to the case, 451 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: file police Interviewed rose's nurses because remember she had twenty 452 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: four hour nursing. Care they lived right across the street 453 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 2: From maud And. Clyde the nurse that was on duty 454 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: on That friday night Before maud Disappeared March, first said 455 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: That maud came over To rose's house at around seven 456 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: thirty or eight pm that. Evening she also came by 457 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: On saturday. Morning, now Normally maud would stop by two 458 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: or three times a, day but the nurse said that 459 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 2: was the last time that she saw her In rose's. 460 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: Home Beth brakel stated at a talk at The Fayetteville 461 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 2: Public library in twenty twenty three that she believed someone 462 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: drove To maud's house between nine thirty and TEN, pm 463 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: and That maud left the home with that. Person so 464 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 2: why Wasn't Mike berg questioned at the, time this was 465 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 2: just one of many questions that were raised about the 466 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: case file and the status of the. Investigation it turned 467 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 2: Out Mike berg was not only a person with a 468 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 2: lot of, money he also had a lot of. 469 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: Power he was the. 470 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 2: Head of The Arkansas State Police, commission which is made 471 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 2: up of seven, members all appointed by The governor Of. 472 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: Arkansas now at the, time The governor Of arkansas Was Arable, 473 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: faubus and remember he was asking for personal updates on this. 474 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 2: Case the commission controls The Arkansas State, police So mike 475 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: was the guy in charge of the group that. 476 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: Was in charge of The Arkansas State. 477 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: Police this seems like a massive conflict of interest and one, 478 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: that to my, knowledge was never. Addressed one of the 479 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: People beth interviewed Was Otis. Henley he was the ORIGINAL 480 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: asp detective on the. Case he said his investigation pointed 481 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: To Mike, burr and he said he reported what. 482 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: He found to his, Boss Alan. Templeton after, That. 483 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: Otis Told beth he was, told, quote there's too much money, 484 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: involved end, quote and that he later got taken off 485 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: the case and his case files. Disappeared beth claimed there 486 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: were other items potentially missing from the case, file including a. 487 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: Receipt clyde Sold maud's car after she, disappeared and the 488 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: buyer told police that he and a friend found a 489 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: grocery store receipt under the car's front. Seat they noticed 490 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: it was Dated march, second nineteen fifty. 491 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: Seven The devemont. 492 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: Disappeared they turned the piece of paper over and they 493 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: saw a phone number scribbled on, It thinking it might be, 494 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: Important dawn Told beth he gave the receipt to the. 495 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: Police he was told it would be added to the case. 496 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: File it's unclear what happened to that. Receipt After Beth 497 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: brockel's articles were, published The Arkansas State police started working 498 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 2: on the case, again this time focusing On mike Burd 499 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 2: but a lot of time had passed and a lot 500 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: of the people who had been around and who could 501 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: potentially have had information were Debt one of the people 502 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 2: they most wanted to talk to Was Mike berg's, Bodyguard Jack. 503 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: Doris the prosecuting attorney Subpoenaed Jack, doris but he was 504 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: already terminally ill with. Cancer an officer showed up to question, 505 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: him and he literally lee died right before law enforcement 506 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: had a chance to ask him any. Questions Mike berg 507 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: also passed. Away he died in nineteen seventy, five so 508 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: in the, end police never made any statements confirming his, 509 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: guilt and no one was ever arrested or. Charged in 510 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, One Beth brackel did an interview With mitch 511 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: McCoy Of fox Sixteen. News she told him she'd actually 512 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: Met maud, once back in the early nineteen fifties when 513 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: she was in junior high. School beth said she remembered 514 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: going over To maud's house And maud being lovely and 515 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: kind to. Her beth said she Believes Mike berg's position 516 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: as An Arkansas State police commissioner played a key role 517 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: in him being. 518 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: Able to avoid. 519 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 2: Justice she Told fox sixteen quote he was used to 520 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 2: getting everyone to do what he wanted to, do either 521 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: by bribing him with gifts or by. Intimidation neither tactic 522 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 2: would work on matd craft end. Quote beth published reprints 523 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: of her articles in The gazette in a book Called 524 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: The disappearance Of Maud. Crawford she went on to write 525 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: two more. Books if you're interested in the, case they 526 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: go into much more detail than we can do, here 527 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: AND i highly recommend anyone with an interest in the 528 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: case check them. Out beth gives a lot more details 529 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: in her articles and books about the alleged real estate. 530 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 2: Fraud maud was in contact With rose's. Nieces she allegedly 531 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: told them she had information that would Expose mike's efforts 532 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 2: to falsify. Information rose died in nineteen sixty and after her, 533 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: death her nieces were unable to locate the will That 534 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: maud assisted her. 535 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 3: With there were supposed to be multiple. 536 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 2: Copies including one in a safety deposit, box but none wherever. 537 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: Found in the, End mike berg inherited the entire twenty 538 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: million dollar. Fortune he settled with the nieces a year, 539 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: later giving them one hundred and eighty seven thousand dollars 540 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: each the. Rest there was a lot of circumstantial. Evidence 541 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: maud found documents showing That rose Transferred mike over twelve thousand, 542 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: acres sixty two, properties and a bunch of oil. Royalties 543 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 2: and these documents Had rose's signature on, them but it 544 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: was described By beth as being a shaky. Signature and 545 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: remember this was After rose had been declared. Incompetent but 546 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: even with all, that police never made a case Against Mike. 547 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: Byrd neither he nor anyone else has been arrested in 548 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: connection With maud's disappearance And. Clyde maud's family and friends 549 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: in the community never learned what actually happened to. Her, 550 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: eventually The Clifton street house was, sold so there's nothing 551 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: to Commemorate maud's many historic. 552 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: Achievements she doesn't even have a. 553 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: Gravestone Camden Mayor Julian latt has stated he hopes to 554 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 2: change that and to find a way to Honor maude's 555 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: memory in the near. 556 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: Future even with all. 557 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: Of the circumstantial evidence That beth, uncovered there is one 558 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: huge missing piece in this, puzzle and that Is maud's. 559 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: Body police Believe maud was killed shortly after she. 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