WEBVTT - Episode 19 - The Magic of Sneakers w/ Tammer Magic 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.240 What's going on, guys. It's your boy, easy Bus. So 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.520 welcome to another episode of Legit Check. We're out here 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:11.080 with my boy tamer At, Tamer, Magic, Tamer, Caffiti, tam 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.399 or the Hammer. There's so many different nicknames that I 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:16.360 call you, most of which that I can't really say 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:19.759 on the show. Basically, Tamer is like my best friend. 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.520 I've known him forever since what seventh grade and one 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:25.560 of the few people I talked to every single day. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:30.840 He's a magician, very talented, very smart individual, and look 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.040 out for him. He's doing some pretty cool things that 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.040 are going to be coming to Fruition soon with the 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.680 whole magic scene. So there you go. There's your little intro. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:41.680 That's probably the nicest thing I've ever said to you. 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:45.120 Thank you. Yeah, what's up everyone, Yeah, it's Tamer, as 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:48.000 easy Buss have just said. Also Tim too. He called 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:50.720 me that, So I have a lot of nicknames. Oh shoot, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.520 sorry that I yeah, I see, that's just so subconscious. 0:00:53.760 --> 0:00:56.560 Yeah I know. Um, yeah, I went by Timmy when 0:00:56.600 --> 0:01:00.680 we were kids and now I'm Tamer. Yeah, they're we go. Yeah, 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.240 well Tammer is your real name, but in middle school 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:06.760 people couldn't pronounce it right, So you so you just 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:08.960 went by Timmy. Yeah, they would just say a tamer 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:12.680 or Tamir. Yeah, so I was like, yo, it's it's 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:16.520 pronounced timmy. Yeah. So so yeah, it's funny because only 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.880 like your o G like close friends call you Timmy. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.000 Still yeah, whenever I hear the name Timmy, I kind 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:25.199 of looked like, wait, high school, like middle school, elementary school. 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:27.880 But now you go by Tamar, and it's still weird 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:29.640 for me. I can't call you Tamar. I will call 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:32.080 you Tamara on the show today, but in general, it's 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.280 still very strange to me. So give us an idea 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.000 of how like you started with the whole magic thing, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.319 because obviously that's like something that's extremely unique, like it's 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.280 not every day that you meet a magician or someone 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.640 who like it's a member of the castle, you know. Yeah, 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:48.160 so yeah, I started about a week ago and I 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.880 was like, yeah, like I just hit the Bobby Schmurder 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:55.480 reference right there. But now, so I started magic when 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.320 I was like, what was thirteen years ago? So I'm 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:03.040 twenty three now, so that makes me ten years old. Um, yeah, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.360 I started at that time. I was on a plane 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.079 and there was an old man who was sitting next 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:09.839 to me, and who did he did a coin trick 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:11.359 to me. I don't know if he was a magician 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.280 or he was a hobbyist or I don't know, but 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.720 he did a trick to me. He made the coin disappear. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.840 He made it reappear out of the plane window. And uh, 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.120 when I saw that, because I could see on the 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:24.679 other side of the window, I didn't see the coin 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.520 go through. And so that's what I really thought was 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:31.280 like the magic moment that really sparked my interest. And 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.200 then you know, over time, I I just kind of 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:37.760 had more encounters with magicians or just the magic world 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:41.200 in general. There was a person at the church I 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.520 used to go to who would kind of teach me 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.000 a trick or two just to see where I would 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:49.359 take it, if I would actually practice it, or I 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.480 would just kind of drop it after a week, like 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.560 a high percentage of people do, because everyone gets magic 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.080 kids when they're young, or a lot of people do, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.840 or they have look on YouTube or something that they 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.600 get into it for the most part, but they get 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:05.240 out of it really quick. And the trick is to 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.320 stay in it long enough so you could see kind 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.560 of the fruit of the labor, because the first few 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.760 years you're not gonna, you know, be that great. You 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.679 gotta really you gotta fail, you gotta go out there. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.960 So I you know, I met that guy on the 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.160 plane he did the coin trick. I kind of started 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.760 and started with kids. I stole my brother's magic kit 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.519 and you know, so he could have been a magician, 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:32.040 but I took it from him. Yeah. From there, Uh 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.520 and then was it two thousand and ten, so that 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:38.480 was ten years ago. I auditioned to be a part 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.600 of the Magic Castle's junior program, and so that's when 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.360 I was like twelve years old, twelve or thirteen, and 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.960 so I got in after the second time. I didn't 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:48.160 get it on the first time, so I had a 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.440 re audition six months later, got in on the second time. 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:55.160 I've been a member since, and you know, occasionally I'll 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.680 perform at the Castle and it's just a really good 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.640 area to meet uh, coolman aitian see cool magic, meet 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.800 cool people, bring people. You know, you've been there, so 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.640 it's super dope. Yeah. So yeah, and then they got 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:13.120 the castle and now you know, just kind of grinding 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.360 and doing magic, that's what's up. So it's funny because 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:17.839 you said the first couple of years, you're not gonna 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:21.279 be that great. You're still not not that great, not 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:25.160 that a little bit better than not that great. But 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:28.160 it's an upward you know, And I'm just exponentially. I'm 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.359 just you just gotta it's it's a skill. It's a skill. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.760 And didn't you have to like acquire your medicalorians through 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:38.240 the Magic Council in order to be where you are today? Yeah, 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.880 I don't really know what a medic lorian is, but 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.400 that was a Star Wars reference. If you got that, Like, 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.760 you're a real o g Okay, but yeah, I like 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:51.839 Iron Man, I don't watch Okay, well huh, I slowly 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.120 I'm going to demote you from the best friend position. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.239 But so, because I remember growing up in middle school, 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.520 you always were like doing magic tricks and I thought 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.279 it was like I was like, I was like what 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.039 the hell, Like what is this? You know? But I 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.920 thought it was so cool watching the street performers in 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.400 Vegas like that was like the first real encounter I 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.120 had with like a magician, and I never really like 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:16.800 understood how anything was done. Now I kind of hanging 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.120 out with you and I get some of the things, 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:21.880 but there's only only some. Yeah, but but you don't 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.080 tell me anything, even though I try to pry it 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:26.320 out of you. But like sometimes it's like, okay, cool, 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.839 like some simple tricks, like you can pick up on 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.640 it if you've seen it enough, you know what I mean. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:36.640 But but there's certain ship that's like literally what the fuck? 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:38.760 You know, Like some of the stuff that you were 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.760 showing me last night, I was like, I was like, dude, 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:42.800 so you're working with the magician right now? That kind 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:46.760 of has those like WTF moments? Right, Yeah, he has 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.440 a he has a pretty big following, and he's just 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.040 kind of amassed a big crowd and a big audience 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:55.159 over the years. It's been great. I've been learning a 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:58.640 lot about like show production and everything. I've learned some 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.560 of the stuff, and like school I go to in Vegas, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:06.160 like a magic school and like Hogwarts, but like now 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.080 I get to see it put in action whenever, like 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.960 we go and do shows, and I think it's really 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:14.719 cool that. You know, that's a whole another side of magic, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.560 the show production. That's a side of theater that a 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.200 lot of people maybe don't think of to get into. 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.360 But it's a really cool thing to at least explore. Yeah, 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.479 that's awesome. So what do you think it's kind of 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.880 like your next step to maybe get yourself to that 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.160 platform that that the person you're working with we can't 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.520 name him, the man who shall not be named again. 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:38.239 Another Harry Potter reference is that like a boltemort reference. 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:39.960 I'm pretty sure I read I read that when I 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:42.680 was a kid, So I don't really remember. But would 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.680 your goal be to kind of like do the same 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.120 thing that that person is doing or or is it 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.839 kind of like do you want to do more street 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.840 performing rather than I don't know, I mean, like, are 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.160 you trying to like follow in his footsteps or is 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.960 it more so? Um? So I just want to learn 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.760 the ropes and kind of see what you're good at, 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.680 see what you like. Yeah, that's that's exactly. I want 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.280 to learn the rope, see what I'm good at, learn 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.560 how to build a better show. What I do know 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.360 for sure is that I want magic to be a 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.080 part of my life. Um and I just want to 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:16.640 get better and better at it. And uh, just being 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.520 exposed to professionals and the industry and having good teachers 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.440 and everything helps me do that. And so yeah, I 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.960 just try to keep advancing and uh, wherever the wind 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.360 takes me, you know, just keep trying to set high 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.560 goals along the path and it just kind of builds, 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.000 it builds to something greater that I don't exactly have 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:42.040 planned out, but yeah, that's my technique. I mean, it's 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:43.720 been really cool for me to kind of like see 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.000 you progress and you know, and get better and better 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.560 at magic. And I feel like recently you've kind of 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.160 like went full force on like magic, like you kind 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:58.080 of started practicing like newer things that are like the 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.400 w TF moments? Right, So what do you think the 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:04.520 most important thing in magic? But what to you is 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.880 more interesting like when you see someone before actually know, 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:08.560 it's kind of hard for you to judge that, I 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.560 guess because you are a magician. But are you like, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.360 oh my god, like that like a skill is a 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.480 crazy or are you looking for like, oh my god, 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.840 like what like how like what do I look at 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.840 when I see Yeah, like what what what entertains you more? 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.480 The skill? Or like the w TF factor? Well, the 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:29.800 WTF factor definitely when I was younger, just like, oh, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.920 how was the trick done? Because that's kind of the 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.040 first question a lot of people ask, but now you know, 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.000 when you get into magic for such a long time 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.640 and you learn um a lot of techniques and a 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.120 lot of methods, and you're just around the community and 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:44.800 you just kind of start to pick up on the 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.360 methods and how things are done, you kind of look 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.920 for something else when you perform. When you watch performers, 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.480 for example, like you'll be looking at their showmanship and 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:59.200 how well they execute the moves, even though you know 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.000 how to do it, how they do it, like how 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.080 well do they do it? How well do they interact 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.360 with the audience, how well do they recover from mess 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:11.640 ups or um. Yeah, And because that really goes to 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:15.000 show that shows you how good a performer is, not 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.320 when they do it right, but when they don't do 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.200 it right and how they recover. So that's kind of 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.600 like a big defining moment of like how good a 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.400 performer is. So for you, it's it's more interesting to 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.160 actually see the skill behind it right, even if you 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:31.880 don't know how they did it. For you, it's like 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.000 oh wow, like that's crazy, how he just tripped but 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:38.800 he made the show or whatever, because it happens. I mean, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:43.319 you're human, you know, things happen, especially especially in live entertainment. 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:47.680 So it's funny because I've seen you pretend to mess up, right, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.079 That's a technique that I do. I um, and it's 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.720 funny and it's great. Yeah, it's kind of like I 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.000 guess my style is a little bit of putting someone 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.920 in like a roller coaster of emotions maybe like I 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.880 mess up, and so that kind of don't think highly 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.760 of my magic. But then I completely contradict that, like 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:09.160 maybe ten twenty seconds later and get them with the trick. 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:12.880 And that just that transition from really low to really 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.840 high is I think what I like about my style, 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.480 and I think that's what maybe other people like about 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.920 the style too. Well, let's talk about one encounter that 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.520 I saw firsthand, which was cool when you did a 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:27.679 meta tric for Gary V. Right, just to like set 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.760 up the story and exactly what happened. We went to 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:33.000 New York for Sneaker New York. I brought all my boys. 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.800 When when was that? What year was that was two years? 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:40.680 Or three years? That was two thousand and seventeen, I 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:42.600 want to say, so it's going on three I was 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.680 about to be right, Yeah, yeah, so that's when um, 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:51.280 because I turned twenty one in two thousand eighteen and 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:56.480 I wasn't twenty one, so yeah, it's for sure, but um, 0:10:56.600 --> 0:11:01.920 it wasn't. It wasn't. It was Yeah. So in December, 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.120 we went to New York City, brought all the boys. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.640 It was fun. We had a great trip and Gary 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:12.760 V was following me for a while and he was like, oh, hey, 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:14.040 next time you come to New York, hit me up. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.120 Let's let's have a meeting. And I was like, okay, cool. 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.719 So we went to New York and I hit him 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:22.400 up and he said, a cool, cool, come by the office. 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:23.640 That's have a meeting. So I was like all right, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.000 cool first and foremost. That was like one of the 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:29.160 most intense, crazy like meetings I've ever had in my 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:33.880 entire life. I felt that I love Gary V. Like 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:37.559 I love Gary V. I think he's amazing, like honestly 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:40.160 awesome guy. I think he really tells people what they 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.040 need to hear, which is something that you know, I 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:49.480 enjoyed doing myself. Um but uh so, anyway, we had 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:51.840 a meeting, was great, went great, and I brought like 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:53.920 all my boys would be into the office too. I 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:56.520 was like, fuck it, right, I'm surprised to let that happen. 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.160 But yeah, but you know, he's he's a cool guy. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.960 He's not like a super corporate like shooting tie, like 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.679 the only one person could come in. Right. That was great. 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:06.520 It was great. Shout out to all the boys that 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:10.800 were there. Yeah, shout out to Dylan for being ballsy 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.720 enough to ask a question Dylan. So yeah, Dylan's For 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.600 the people who don't know, Dylan's a friend of mine, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:19.120 from a friend of ours, from our middle from from 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:20.800 my high school. I didn't need it. You didn't go 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.600 to school with him, didn't you know? I met him. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.320 I met him through you, right, Okay, Yeah, so yeah 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.240 I met Dylan in high school and uh yeah, I 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:32.040 loved it. He's a character, the things he said. And yeah, 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.480 in the meeting, he asked Gary a random question at 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.080 the very end, Yeah, like, hey, shoot your shot. You know, 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:43.560 I love the I love that, you know, he like 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.959 said something that was great and it was cool. How 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:48.760 after you were able to do a magic trick for 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:52.280 Gary and was filmed, which was cool, right by like 0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.360 five cameras in the room. I mean he Gary himself 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.440 has like two people or three people filming. And then 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.000 you were filming or if other people and then Blake 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.480 was filming to Blake win when yeah, Dress went on YouTube. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.800 Yeah so in that moment like how did how did 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.959 you feel when I? Oh so, yeah, so you're nervous. 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.680 Well so I really the story to paint the picture 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:18.120 even more that so yeah, easy, but us I had 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.640 a meeting with Gary. We were sitting in and you know, 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.360 they were talking. They did everything, and right when that 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.520 meeting ended. Well it was funny because during the meeting 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.920 I was kind of in the back corner, hiding behind 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.600 all all the boys, you know, like with my cards, 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.880 like okay, which trick they all want to do, Like 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:36.839 I want to see, like what I could do to 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.360 what what is he not seen? You know, because you 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.240 know a lot of people try to do content to 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.040 him and a lot of magicians do as well. So yeah, 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:49.640 I was in the bag preparing and after you you 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:53.280 were finished talking, I jumped out Gary, I'm like Gary, 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:55.440 like can I show you a magic trick? And then 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:59.840 he goes on this huge brand of how you know, 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:04.160 how he's seen everything in the book and like now 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:08.600 or like a week prior, his brain cemented to like 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.920 knowing all magic and he was so confident and he 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.319 that he knew everything and and so I was the 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.120 first magician to perform to him since he cemented that 0:14:19.200 --> 0:14:22.440 in his brain and how he like figured it all out, 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.280 and so I was pretty stressful. So I was doing 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.400 the trick to him with him, you know, beginning the trick, 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.080 talking for five minutes about how he knows that I'm 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.640 about to do, like talking about how he's like you know, 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.200 buddies of David Blaine, which I believe, but like, yeah, 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.200 it's just funny. And so yeah, even during the trick, 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.880 I was just like I was so nervous doing the trick, 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:48.160 but um, I didn't know. But what I was doing. 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.240 If you guys look at the video, it's it's on 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.760 his channel. Just type in Gary V Magic Trick and 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.720 if you throw my name in there, it will pop up. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.560 During the video you could see me just like I 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.800 was just like checking the cards during the trick, just 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.320 because I wanted to make sure I was doing this right. 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:06.600 Usually I never do that. And I was just really 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.240 nervous because it was a really high pressure situation. Do 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:11.960 you think up until that point that was the most 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:15.920 nervous you've ever been performing I think so that and 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:19.840 then maybe in competitions magic competitions. But yeah, that was 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:24.840 a pretty like crazy thing, especially when like he was like, oh, 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.880 I haven't figured out before I started. I'm like, okay, 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:30.200 you can hear the line. I was like, Okay, we're 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.840 just gonna have some fun. That's what I said, just like, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.040 you know whatever, let's have fun and let's do a trick. Well, 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:38.640 it was It was funny because he's like, I know 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.320 exactly what you're going to do in the next five minutes. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:43.760 You know, magic is kind of like what I do 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.760 in business is what I do in my life. I 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.920 just trick people. And he didn't say that exactly, but 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.040 it was. It was funny. It's like, no, it's like 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.680 he was saying, like in my life, I make people 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.240 think I'm doing one thing when I'm doing something else. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.120 That was it. Yeah, what I just said, it's completely different. 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:02.440 So but because that's not what he does. But I 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.360 remember hearing that and in my head I was just 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:12.320 standing there like fuck. I was like, I was like, dude, 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.080 I was lookey. I was about to be like yo, Tim, 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.360 like maybe just sit this way. But it was even 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.800 better that way because of the of like how it 0:16:20.840 --> 0:16:22.960 went down, you know. Yeah, I mean because all the 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:27.360 viewers or everyone you know who eventually viewed Gary's video 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.960 and whatever, we're probably on his side, like, okay, yeah, 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.680 I'm on team Gary. You know, he's you know, he's 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.200 the guy and the he's the head Han show. In 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.000 the situation this magic, He's gonna screw this magician over, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:41.120 and so you try to do that. At the end 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.400 of my trick, he's like, I know exactly what that 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:47.000 card is under the water bottle, and he said what 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.520 the card was, and he flipped it over and it 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:52.360 was not that card, you know, and all the other 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.760 cards that were laid down were just completely different and 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.960 they all match that card that he didn't even know 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:59.520 it was coming. And yeah, the trick is kind of long. 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.960 Funny about the video is that you hear him more 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.680 talking and you don't really see the trick. Yeah, And 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:07.439 there's a lot of comments on the video like, oh, 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.600 you can't even see the trick. What happened? I'm sure 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.800 it was a good trick, but I couldn't see it. Yeah. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.560 The reaction was great, right, Yeah, because it was so 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.240 funny the whole time is yeah, I do exactly I 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:21.000 knew exactly was here and it was great and like 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.679 that that's the beauty of magic, Like the misdirection. So 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:26.040 they think they're doing they think it's one thing, but 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:29.959 it's something else. But obviously no, no, it's all magic. 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:32.960 You Matt, you know you sprinkled the magic dust on 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.119 the But no, that dude, that was like priceless. Like 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.639 I've never seen a reaction like that from from like 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.960 from him or from I mean ship, like from anyone 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.399 that I've seen you do. I've seen pretty crazy reactions, 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:45.919 but a reaction like that, I was like, wow, Like 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:50.159 that's crazy because I went from I went from fuck 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:55.359 fuck you know, but it was like that that was 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.240 really really cool. And like Tama was saying, basically, he 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:02.560 assumed it was gonna be aces underneath, but it ended 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.240 up being with kings Kings. Yeah. Yeah. So the fact 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:10.200 that he was able to pull off a trick and 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:13.679 make it a completely different card than what he he 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.960 thought it was because he thought he figured out the 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.240 trick made it that much more crazy. And but it's 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.440 really funny because even at the beginning of the trick, 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.320 I was like, Okay, Gary, and I feel like this 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.960 is just Gary kind of being in his Gary. Yeah, 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:29.280 Gary being Gary, you know, with his contradictions and everything. 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.440 But I don't know if he was like thinking about 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:34.600 the trick a lot or just kind of like trying 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:37.320 to follow my movements. But at the beginning of the trick, 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.520 I'm like, Okay, Gary, you're gonna pick a card, You're 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.480 not gonna look at it, and I'm gonna try to 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.600 pull every card out that relates to it and then 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.320 at the end will make you know the reveal. And 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.320 so when he was like, I know exactly what that 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.040 card is, I kind of already told him at the 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.600 beginning what it would be. But but I but I 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.920 spun it. You know, you have to watch the video 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.560 just kind of see. But regardless of was a really 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.680 cool will experience, you know, being in New York, being 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.840 in his office. Damn, that guy runs at like a 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.760 million miles of second dude, Like he said, he sat 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.600 down with me for like twenty minutes, don't asking the question, 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.040 and then you did the magic trick and he was out. 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:17.200 I'm out, like yeah, and he's like, oh, thank you guys, 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.879 Sorry guys, I gotta go yeah later. Yeah, And that 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.720 was that was that was really cool. His workflow is crazy. Yeah, 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.359 I mean, dude, you've had some pretty interesting experiences with 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.800 like some like celebs. Yeah, I mean y G moment 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:33.960 that was crazy. Yes, shout out to shout out to 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:38.320 Eric for making that happen. But but yeah, dude, So yeah, 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.840 I'll set this up. Basically, we were at the YG 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.400 album released party. Um, it was August fourth, I still 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:48.000 remember that. And when was that two thousand? It was 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.800 two years ago, right after I got my surgery, which 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.960 was in two thousand, summer of seventeen. Yeah, your face 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:56.919 was like still kind of your face was still kind 0:19:56.920 --> 0:19:59.359 of like puffed up. Yeah, it was small, and I 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.760 had I had off surgeries. I got my top just 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:08.800 sliced and repositioned and yeah yeah yeah just and and 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.800