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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast will still be relevant in February,

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Speaker 1: I hope. So welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas. Come to

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Speaker 1: you from a virtual room filled with some heroes. Greg Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: Mark Cessler and boys. Will finally have reached the end

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Speaker 1: of the yellow Brick Room weeks. I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 1: hoping to stay relevant into next week. You know, nothing

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Speaker 1: has promised, Dan, but it does feel nice to get,

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Speaker 1: you know, to the end of the regular season and

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Speaker 1: get to the new year. It's gonna cheer up the

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Speaker 1: sessor household. They know, well, you know, I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: I think, look at I think this year especially, aren't

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Speaker 1: there a couple of NFL teams that probably have that

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Speaker 1: NBA bubble um desire to escape all this and and

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Speaker 1: go off into the wilderness. We're ready to say goodbye

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Speaker 1: to some, but there's a whole bunch of intrigue to

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying I think that. Listen, this year's Week

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Speaker 1: seventeen is packed with more enticing avenues and corners than

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Speaker 1: I can remember in a long time. And I'm a

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Speaker 1: little bit nervous about what's gonna I was like I

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Speaker 1: don't know. For some reason, I was really hanging on

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Speaker 1: every word from Mark there. I was figuring out how

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Speaker 1: he's gonna land that sentence. Yeah, this is a celebration.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's Sessler Day in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways, um V day for Sessler because all these

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Speaker 1: kind of annoying teams, the teams that are hard to watch,

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Speaker 1: the teams that are straight up bad. Uh, they all

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Speaker 1: disappear after Week seventeen and what's left is well, now,

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Speaker 1: it used to be twelve, now fourteen, the best teams remaining.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna listen because it's Week seventeen, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about all thirty two teams and they all play

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. It's the only week of the year where

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Speaker 1: there is no Thursday night, there's no Monday night. There

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Speaker 1: is just sixteen games up big skin, uh to dive into.

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Speaker 1: And that's what we're gonna do. So let's do it.

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Speaker 1: And instead of doing the draft format because it's a

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Speaker 1: different week, because so much is on the line in

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Speaker 1: games that matter most. Uh. In clusters, and let's start,

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Speaker 1: Mark where we have to start in the a f C.

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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steelers and the Cleveland Browns. And here we go. Mark.

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Speaker 1: The Browns fall to the Jets in Week sixteen and

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Speaker 1: stunning fashion. And I know you're missing that wide receiver room.

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Speaker 1: But you know, watching that game, Mark, you know the

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Speaker 1: Browns just weren't ready to get the job done. Either way.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think they played well. I didn't think it

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Speaker 1: get into the postseason by beating Mason Rudolph of all

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Speaker 1: people who will be starting in the place of Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm with you a little bit. I don't it

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Speaker 1: was not Cleveland's best overall effort last week. They also

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Speaker 1: hard to change things up, but this time around, it's like,

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Speaker 1: ask yourself, are the Cleveland Browns is the DNA and

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Speaker 1: Rudolph led Steelers team in Week seventeen. Um, I believe

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Speaker 1: Mayfield right now ranks just below Aaron Rodgers and Tom

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Speaker 1: Browns have nothing to apologize for. That was the Patriots

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Speaker 1: It's not the Steeler's fault. It's not really the Browns fault.

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Speaker 1: And I don't assume that the backup Steelers are definitely

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Speaker 1: as a as a fan of a similarly pain team,

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Speaker 1: the cosmic pain of being a Browns fan. But that said,

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Speaker 1: the Browns a lot this week. Yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 1: talking about the incident of courts of Mason Rudolph and

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Speaker 1: you how confident are you one to ten right now

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Speaker 1: a three. After what happened last week. I just wonder

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Speaker 1: they're getting their offensive line back to me? Last week,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line and their linebackers and their defensive backs

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Speaker 1: the a f C North, the Baltimore Ravens, they are

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Speaker 1: as hot as any team in football right now. Four

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson UH since he came off the COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: The Bengals are playing more competitively lately, but their defense

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Speaker 1: the Browns, and they can avoid the Ravens. Know what

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Speaker 1: he wants to play this Ravens team, Mark, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I think Lamar Jackson is a man at ease with

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Speaker 1: you're getting that version of the Ravens and Dan, you know,

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Speaker 1: how last year Baltimore goes fourteen in two. They're berserker

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Speaker 1: keep games close despite their defense. But I can't believe

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Speaker 1: that we've just um shot by a comment about Dan

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Speaker 1: feeding wild squirrels in his yard. Um, there's so many

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Speaker 1: things that could go wrong there, but I understand he's

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Speaker 1: not wild anymore. Connection. It's actually a girl in her

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Speaker 1: name human connection, Like you're looking for human but they're

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Speaker 1: not human. There's not girls. But it's the most amazing

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Speaker 1: thing to me is that you can tell the different

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Speaker 1: squirrels apart because the obvious thing is already starting to happen.

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Speaker 1: Different squirrels are coming. They heard that Dan's got some

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Speaker 1: good food and now they're coming to the yard. This

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Speaker 1: is like Hughes behavior, just throwing it out there. So

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Speaker 1: it is, and you know what, like I'm just embracing

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Speaker 1: that I might be going crazy and it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. I actually don't have a huge problem with

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Speaker 1: it all right, let's move on. Yeah, so Tennessee has

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Speaker 1: a chance to get that wild card UH spot with

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Speaker 1: an eleventh win. Now there's the Indianapolis Colts, who have

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Speaker 1: the easiest path to victory in Week seventeen because they

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Speaker 1: have the worst team in the league, the Jacksonville Jaguars,

447
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Speaker 1: who have lost fourteen straight games. Here is well, there's

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Speaker 1: literally no way to build a case for the Colts

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Speaker 1: losing this game. I was gonna say that Jacks have

450
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Speaker 1: already clinched the number one overall pick, so they have

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Speaker 1: nothing to gain from losing anymore. So perhaps, you know,

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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew comes in and there's some magic and the

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Speaker 1: Colts go home, you know, scratching their heads. Nah, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna take care of business here, right, Greg, They should.

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Speaker 1: But the case is pretty simple that the Jaguars beat

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Speaker 1: him in Week one, that that's their one win. It

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Speaker 1: was a weird game. The Colts dominated it a long

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Speaker 1: time ago, Greggy, I know, but they've kind of dominated

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Speaker 1: this series for a while. And the coaches are the same,

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Speaker 1: Doug Maron and Frank Reich. It's strange. I don't expect it.

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned the Colts have the easiest matchup but

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Speaker 1: they've got the toughest route to the playoffs. They're on

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Speaker 1: the outside looking in. If the Titans somehow lose, the

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Speaker 1: Colts can still win the division. UM. But the way

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Speaker 1: it's shaping up, with the Bills potentially resting starters, with

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Speaker 1: the Steelers resting starters, I think all these teams have

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Speaker 1: a good chance to get to eleven and five. And

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Speaker 1: that means the Colts would only be the second team

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Speaker 1: since the last expansion to win eleven games and not

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And I'm I'm sad about it. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to see Philip Rivers in this cold team. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they will get in, they'll get lucky and get helped

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Speaker 1: out somewhere else. But there's a good chance that collapse

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Speaker 1: against the Steelers in the second half kind of ends

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Speaker 1: up defining their season. That doesn't Yeah, that doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: right for them to miss it. That gets to eleven.

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Speaker 1: But what I love about this UM, because there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of hubbub about whether you do this or not.

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Speaker 1: They are hiding. They're hiding out of town scores so

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Speaker 1: the players can't see play the game blind, do what

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Speaker 1: the best you can. I love that, UM. The Colts

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Speaker 1: team there's a lot to like. I think they're balanced,

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Speaker 1: but I also watched the way that they were detonated

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Speaker 1: by Tennessee a couple of weeks ago, the way the

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Speaker 1: Ravens beat them up in the second half, the way

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Speaker 1: that they collapsed to Pittsburgh. They had one converted third

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Speaker 1: down in the second half of that game. So they're

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a tricky team to get totally behind,

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Speaker 1: but they are a playoff level team to me, so

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Speaker 1: we'll see how the shakes out. It's it's striking, and

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Speaker 1: we talked about I thought that was one of the

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Speaker 1: strangest games of the season, how the Colts were so

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Speaker 1: in control at halftime against the Steelers and then just

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Speaker 1: the Steelers flipped a switch, And to me, it was

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Speaker 1: kind of telling in the way that as bad as

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Speaker 1: the Steelers had been in the four weeks previous, it's

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Speaker 1: a reminder that the Steelers and these other a f

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Speaker 1: C superpowers have a higher gear and when they flipped

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Speaker 1: that switch, they play at a higher level one than

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Speaker 1: the Colts can. So as much as I like the Colts,

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Speaker 1: I've never been in love with this coult team because

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's ever been a team that you

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Speaker 1: could say is great. It's a good team, and it's

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Speaker 1: a good team that can miss the playoffs even if

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Speaker 1: they get to eleven wins. Greg, here is just a

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Speaker 1: little more shading on your point. Since the expansion to

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Speaker 1: a twelve team postseason in nineteen nine, only one of

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Speaker 1: two hundred and eight teams have won eleven games uh

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Speaker 1: in a season and missed the playoffs. And who was

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Speaker 1: it that missed, Greggy? You know Tom Brady's Super Bowl defense,

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Speaker 1: his first one two thousand two. Incorrect, It was the

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Speaker 1: year after the year after when Tom Brady tore his

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Speaker 1: a c L and Matt Castle came on and got

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Speaker 1: them to eleven and five. Still no playoffs, Greg, you

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Speaker 1: gotta know that. You just gotta know it. Too many

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl trophies and Greg's closet there, brain freeze. That

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Speaker 1: was another a f C East they tied for and

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Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. I teach you up on that one, Greg.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's swing over to the NFC here and

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Speaker 1: dig in on a messy game Arizona Cardinals and l A. Rams.

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Speaker 1: And why is it messy? The quarterback situation? You have

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, who is not going to play after thumb

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Speaker 1: surgery entered John Wolford of the Alliance of American Football

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Speaker 1: and most recently practice squad of the l A Rams.

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Speaker 1: And then on the other side of the things, Mark,

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Speaker 1: you have the Arizona Cardinals who have a banged up

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray nursing a knee injury suffered eight in their

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Speaker 1: Week sixteen loss to the forty. Yeah. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Jordan rug Reid from The Athletic pointed out

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Speaker 1: that John Wolford is one of maybe the only quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: around us have an active linked in profile. He didn't

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Speaker 1: know he was gonna be here as much as we

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Speaker 1: didn't know at this point. The Ramilly um, they're in

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Speaker 1: a fix. They're in a bit of a fix. Do

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Speaker 1: you have you have your defense? I would just point

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Speaker 1: to this. You have Jalen Ramsey, you have Vic Fngio

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Speaker 1: obsessed Brandon Staley's defense and Ramsey he put it to Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Last time he didn't have a catch over ten yards.

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Speaker 1: He held a three receptions. So that doesn't change whoever's

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Speaker 1: playing for quarterback and Greg, can you see a scenario

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Speaker 1: where maybe Wolford comes in and brings a little life

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Speaker 1: to this offense that's had its ups and downs. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it. This guy they listed at six one,

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Speaker 1: he used to be listed at five eleven. Reminds me

545
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Speaker 1: of Doug Flutie a little bit back there. If if

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Speaker 1: you showed some a f tape of him on the

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Speaker 1: hot shots, that's what got him into the NFL. He

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Speaker 1: was slaying it. I mean he can make plays with

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Speaker 1: his feet. Uh, he seems like he's confident. I think

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Speaker 1: he'll throw it deep. I think it's he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: one of those backups that goes down fighting. Either it

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Speaker 1: goes terribly and that's possible, or he gives them a

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Speaker 1: little spark and is running around and there's a lot

554
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Speaker 1: of fun to watch. He was literally working in finance

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Speaker 1: and was out of football until your Jets, Danny, uh

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Speaker 1: called him up. I think it was in eighteen they

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Speaker 1: needed another camp arm. He looked good and Uh, he

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Speaker 1: wasn't on the practice squad this year, Danny, he would

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Speaker 1: He came into the year as the backup. I think

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh likes him. I'm excited to see Sean McVeigh

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Speaker 1: with a quarterback other than Jared Goff. Let's see if

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and be like Kyle Shanahan and get his

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Speaker 1: backups to be productive. It's I mean, this is the

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Speaker 1: season of you know, constant takedowns of the number one

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Speaker 1: and number two picks and the two thousand NMC and

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Speaker 1: uh NFL draft. Everyone wants to see off on Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's teeing off on Carson Wentz. So now we have

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Speaker 1: this thing where Jared Goff because he's struggling. Now we're

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Speaker 1: gonna paint it as this is a good thing for

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Speaker 1: the Rams, John Bull. But John Wolford is gonna now

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Speaker 1: join up with Sean McVeigh and light up the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: And I had to say a similar conversation. I had

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Speaker 1: to hear the similar hocum from that Money Smith on

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Speaker 1: the Power Ranking Show a few days ago when he

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Speaker 1: said he had he had covered and done play by

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Speaker 1: play on some A A F games and Wolford is

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Speaker 1: gonna do r P O and Sean mcveigh's, you know,

578
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: having a field day scheming up. Ways. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: see how it goes. I I and look, we're here's

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Speaker 1: that footage you get, like, here we go, Let's see

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Speaker 1: what will I'm doing a big spot I think it's

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Speaker 1: more Jared gofferd dividual Anger playing into the analysis here, Hey,

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Speaker 1: who's the better coach? Do you trust Sean McVeigh or

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury? Because I am left a little wanting watching

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Speaker 1: this Cliff Kingsbury offense. Who's got the better players? You know,

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Speaker 1: who's got Aaron Donald, who's got Jalen Ramsey. I was

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00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: all ready to lock this thing up if Golf and

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00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: Cooper Cupper plan. I'm not bold enough to do it

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00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: with Wolford, but I did pick them in my game

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Speaker 1: picks column. I think the Rams can still get this win. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the ray can get into the playoffs, though, if they lose,

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00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: if the Bears, if the Bears lose their games, and

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Speaker 1: real quick, Greg, I'm with you. I think you watched

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury's games. There are moments, especially in the red

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Speaker 1: zone or inside the two minute warning, where time management

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00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: and decisions have haunted the Cardinals, and the only belief

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00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray Simone. My wife calls him that fast

598
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 1: little guy because he is, and I you know, he's

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Speaker 1: enjoyable to watch, but he's been inconsistent too. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure which team I trust more here. I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: picking the Rams because, like Greg says, Sean McVeigh, I

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Speaker 1: trust him. He's got the Pelts on the wall over

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Speaker 1: Cliffs Kingsbury and then the Rams. Sean McVeigh may not

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Speaker 1: have Jared Goffer an offense he could trust right now,

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00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: but he still has that defense. And we've seen all

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Speaker 1: season long with the Cardinals, their trade is when Kyler

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00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Murray is not special, the Cardinals are not special. And

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Speaker 1: I just don't like what I'm hearing about him, where

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Speaker 1: he's at physically and in general, the inconsistent nature of

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Speaker 1: this offense in the second half of the season. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be, you know, a blowout in

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Speaker 1: the favor of the Rams, but I think they're gonna

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Speaker 1: take care of business. And I should mention because I

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Speaker 1: haven't yet. This is a winning in playoffs scenario for

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Speaker 1: both teams. Uh, the Rams could also make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So they lost and the Bears lost versus the Packers.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals are eliminated from playoff contention with the loss.

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Speaker 1: They're out if they don't win this game. Intrusting, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's move on up next, The Green Bay Packers head

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Speaker 1: to Soldier Field to face the Bears. How about them?

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears three straight wins. They're scoring thirty points every week.

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Speaker 1: Mitch Trabsky is having a field day, playing with confidence.

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Speaker 1: Dave and Montgomery's putting up a hundred and thirty total

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Speaker 1: yards every week and a touch. You have Alan Robinson

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Speaker 1: on pace for undred yards. This offense is humming right now.

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Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, with the Bears in their

627
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Speaker 1: own situation winning in the playoffs, the Packers might have

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Speaker 1: a battle on their hands. Mark, I think they I

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Speaker 1: think they do. I mean, this is a different Bears

630
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Speaker 1: team than the one that we've prodded fun at for years,

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Speaker 1: and you're getting a different version of David Montgomery and

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Speaker 1: the ground game to starting to look at You can

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Speaker 1: look who they played in recent weeks. It's not been

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Speaker 1: the high elites of the NFL. And their offensive line

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Speaker 1: is thrived. The run game has thrived. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of it starts there. Rabinsky playing better, you still

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Speaker 1: get the same mistakes. I'm just saying, how do you

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Speaker 1: stop this Packer's offense? Okay, I right now think that

639
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: A J. Dillon and Aaron Jones have been look at

640
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: what happened in Tennessee. What a one to punch Davante

641
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Adams unstoppable. I am confidently locking this up for the Packers.

642
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: Confidently he wanted, he wanted. It didn't sound that confidence. No,

643
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: you didn't start off how good the Bears were looking?

644
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I'm much more caught. I hate

645
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: that we have the same lock. I knew Mark wanted

646
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: to get it out there. Uh First, I mean, I

647
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: thank Mitchell Robinsky for winning these four games in a row. Uh,

648
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: to make it possible for me to lock against him

649
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: in week seventeen against the Packers. Are you a kid

650
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: in me? Has anyone watched these games? Because I'm telling you,

651
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinsky hasn't even played well two of the last

652
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: four weeks. It reminds me so much of where he

653
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: got a lot of credit for wide open receivers. The

654
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: offense is playing well, no doubt. Matt Naggie or Bill Lazer,

655
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: whoever's calling plays like is in his bags. You know,

656
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: running well Alan Robinson is awesome, But I think dire

657
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: Alexander can take Allen Robinson out. And when you take

658
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: Robinson out, they just don't have much. Trabinsky has been

659
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: throwing up a couple of passes per game that the

660
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: other team should take away or he's fumbling the ball.

661
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: And I don't trust this Bears defense, even though they've

662
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: been solid all year. I don't think they get to

663
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and I don't think this game is that close.

664
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Speaker 1: I feel great about getting the chance to lock up

665
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: the Packers in Week seven time. And then you have

666
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: the situation with uh the top of the NFC. We

667
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: we've been lamenting how Week seventeen has been deflated some

668
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: by this adding of the playoff spot and the removing

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00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: of the second by But in this game it doesn't

670
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: get affected because the Packers can lose that number one

671
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: seed that they currently sit in if they don't win.

672
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: They have all everything to play for the buy in

673
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: the first round, everything going through lambeau Field in the NFC,

674
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: And that's why, of course I'm locking up the Packers. Unprecedented.

675
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: Of course, we have not done this all season long,

676
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: but this is a weird week. We like to play

677
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: the mirror test with the with Vegas, and we want

678
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: to make sure we pick a game that's within the

679
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: realm of reason in terms of the competition level. But

680
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: when you do have the chance, uh to pick Aaron

681
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Rodgers closing out? What is it? And I know, Greg,

682
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: you you keep on saying it's a it's a battle.

683
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: This m v P races over. Patrick Mahomes hasn't been

684
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: playing in week seventeen. I like Josh Allen and what

685
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: he's been able to do the last six weeks to

686
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: get backers. But Rogers has a chance to throw for

687
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: close to fifty touchdowns this year with a passer rating

688
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: of one twenty. He's gonna close this thing out and

689
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: the Bears. Yes, it does feel, with all due respect

690
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: to the people of Chicago, like this has been a

691
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: mirage against some hideous defenses. Wake up call coming. They're

692
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: so bad. The Bears are gonna win. You know it now? Well,

693
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: this is first of all, this is bad strategy by you. Dan.

694
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: You're three back with five weeks to play and they're

695
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: packing up the same Game's bad strategy. I would not

696
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: a strateg off of it. But I'm just trying to wet, uh, Travisky.

697
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: I know, but you've gotta hope for catching up, you know,

698
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: tread and water is not worried about that another day,

699
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: isn't it? Travisky wouldn't it be the most bearst thing

700
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: ever to do all this and then lose too straight

701
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: to back into the playoffs, which I think could happen

702
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: if the Cardinals lose, the Bears still get in and

703
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: then you end up losing this week and then you

704
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: get blasted by the Saints or someone next week, and

705
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that that was a deflating win and

706
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 1: resigned mists, Robinsky and and Greg and Mark. Did you

707
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: notice Greg, who says he doesn't care about the locks competition,

708
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: knew absolutely where the standings were, just off the top

709
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: of his head. What I found is that there were

710
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: a couple of years, Dan, where you and I were

711
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: vying for the title and Greg was a little, a

712
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: little bit further back. That was when the apathy crept in.

713
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: And you know, this segment is not working. We don't

714
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: like the locks. It's not I want to get rid

715
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: of the in you know, we get I'm getting rid

716
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: of it. I'm getting rid of it after getting rid

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00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: of anything. Time now for Road to Victory, presented by

718
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: the United States Marine Corps. All Right, Sunday Night Football,

719
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: al Chris Michelle in the world will watch the NFC

720
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 1: East get decided. The Washington football team win and they're

721
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: the NFC's champs. That's It's as simple as that. For Washington.

722
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: They are against the Philadelphia Eagles team, which is the

723
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: only team that is not in contention for the NFC

724
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: East Crown entering week seventeen, which tells you everything you

725
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: need to know about how their season went. Greg, I

726
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of my confidence in Washington is

727
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: rooted and if Alex Smith is playing, because everything else

728
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: about this team I like in this matchup, yeah, I

729
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: like that they have Antonio Gibson back his huge Alex

730
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: Smith did practice on Thursday, so it's trending towards him

731
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: playing now. He wasn't playing as well his last few

732
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: starts that we saw him out there even before the

733
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: caffe injury as he was when he first came into

734
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: the lineup. But at least it makes it a great

735
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: story on Sunday night, like this is the game they

736
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: had to show because it was the one that made

737
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: sense that there won't be any teams eliminated and he's

738
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: seeing Alex Smith finished NBC that's right on Sunday night,

739
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: like finish off the Comeback of the Year Award would

740
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: be pretty awesome against this Eagles team, UM, which is

741
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: just playing out the string and is so banged. I

742
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: know they have Jalen Hurds, but the rest of the team,

743
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: especially on defense, is so banged up right now. It's

744
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Greg, It's it's like we were ready

745
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: to give Alex Smith comeback Player of the Year if

746
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: he came in and did a kneel down. I mean,

747
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: just to even come back and be in uniform. UM.

748
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: The fact that the coaching staff so clearly said, you

749
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: know all along, this is the guy we trust. I

750
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: think that he can um do a lot pre snap

751
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: that you're not gonna get from the other quarterbacks on

752
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: that roster. This needs to be about Washington's rookie class though.

753
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: To Chase Young, Um, Antonio Gibson, these guys are a

754
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: key to this team. And it's incredible to me. These

755
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: teams met in back in Week one, when I thought

756
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: Philly could be a super Bowl team. Their quarterback of

757
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: the future, Carson Wentz, is nowhere to be seen right now,

758
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: and it's Philadelphia and Washington. With Washington a chance to

759
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: win the NFC East. I'm sorry I didn't see that coming,

760
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: you know, check me at the door if you did.

761
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts lingers as an X factor in this game,

762
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: of course, because he's had, you know, explosive moments. It's

763
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: taking over for whence he was I don't want to

764
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: say exposed by the Cowboys defense last week, but he

765
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: came down to earth in those last three quarters against Dallas.

766
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: So it makes me think that if the Dallas defense

767
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: could figure out Jalen Hurts a little bit, this Washington

768
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: front seven can do the same thing. And and it

769
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: should be noted that, yes, we don't know about Alex Smith.

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00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: Right now, we know Dwayne Haskins isn't the quarterback because

771
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera cut the guy um earlier this week, the

772
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: overall pick in the nineteen NFL draft. He is gone.

773
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: And that was obviously a display of power from Ron Rivera,

774
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: who never liked this guy, never liked the way he

775
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: played or how he prepared. So they moved forward. And

776
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: it does beg the question, and I trust Ron Rivera, Greg,

777
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: but why create that distraction in the locker room entering

778
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: this game when you could just just sit Haskins on

779
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 1: the bench or have him inactive and handle that in

780
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: the off season. Well, I wonder if it was a

781
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: move that was appreciated in the locker room. You know

782
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: that it might be something that the team. I don't

783
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: know this, but Haskins put them, you know, in Jeopardy,

784
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: Tyler Heineck comes in there and looks good and um,

785
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: and maybe the team likes it. It's funny because we

786
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: always say, well, week one doesn't mean anything, and you

787
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna get in week one. Week

788
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: one between these teams kind of told us everything. The

789
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: the Washington defense was awesome, the defensive backs that Ron

790
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: Rivera is really a specialty coach making them better. We're

791
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: awesome in that game, Kendall Fuller, Ronald Darby, Chase Young

792
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: was awesome. Haskins was brutal in that Week one game,

793
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz was kind of a mess like and

794
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: and the Eagles started getting injured that that Week one

795
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: game told us a lot about how this season was

796
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: gonna go. I would also say this is probably a

797
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: appreciated I mean, sorry, but Dwayne Haskins, did you really

798
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: grasp this opportunity on and off the field. I could

799
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: point to eighteen or nineteen things to suggest that you

800
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: did not, And I think that Ron Rivera needs someone

801
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: who's all in. And he basically told the rest of

802
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: the team, if you want to act like that, you're

803
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: not gonna be on this team. You can be working

804
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: a different job somewhere else in society. Oligatory. Dwayne Haskins defense.

805
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: I did not grasp many opportunities when I was twenty

806
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: three either. He is right now not wired this but

807
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: for the NFL obviously, and before we uh, he'll get

808
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: a job. He'll definitely get another opportunity. He will before

809
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: we move on. What would it take? Here's a fun

810
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: little game, Mark, what would it take for Alex Smith

811
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: not to get comeback Player of the Year award? And

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00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna present one scenario. You tell me if

813
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: it's gonna lead to him not getting the trophy? Uh?

814
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: In this finale game he starts, goes eleven for twenty

815
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: seven for eighty one yards, six interceptions, and he's ejected

816
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter for headbuttons Shawn hockey Ley the referee.

817
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: Does he still get the trophy? That would that would

818
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: make it very edgy, because you know it's the last

819
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: thing we think about. Um. But I'd have to say

820
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 1: the only thing that could probably knock him out of there.

821
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: Is like if Brett Farve came in and won a

822
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: Packers game and the playoffs in relief of Aaron Rodgers.

823
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: It's got to be Alex Smith. But the head butt

824
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: thing that's thorny a Sessler scenario. It would be a

825
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Sesslor scenario where the asteroid finally hits us. That's the

826
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: only thing that's no vote, no vote logged. That is

827
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: the road to victory presented by the United States Marine Corps.

828
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's check out the other NFC East matchup,

829
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: because obviously huge playoff ramifications there as well. The Dallas

830
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys coming off three consecutive wins, including a blowout of

831
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles last week that knocked the Eggles out of

832
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They now travel to the Meadowlands the face

833
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: New gy Man and this is very simple Mark. The

834
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: winner clinches the NFC East with a win, and then

835
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: they sit on their couches and hope with Washington loses

836
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Yeah, I mean, I feel like we flip

837
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: every week which NFC East team we would prefer to

838
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: see in January. I'm right now, it's arrow up for

839
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: me on Dallas and I think if you look back

840
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: at this season, there was a stretch where Kelln Moore

841
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: had to game plan um for four Cowboys quarterbacks in

842
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: five games. That that's rough. That's not easy to do.

843
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: Alongside of defense, that back then was just a wide

844
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: open barn door saying come right through, dance along, dance

845
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: along to the end zone. Well that's not the case now.

846
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: They played a little bit better on defense and the

847
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Giants end zone was inside the barn. Well, dance out

848
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Speaker 1: the but I don't know if you're going in the

849
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: barn out a lot of dancing, a lot of achieving

850
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: touchdowns and field goals. And we were high on the Giants,

851
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: and the Giants ran into the a f C North,

852
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: didn't they. I mean, I don't know the Giants team.

853
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like, interesting, see you next year. Yeah.

854
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones admitted this week he's been limited in terms

855
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: of trying to make plays outside the pocket. That's a

856
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: problem because you know they're going up against a pass

857
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 1: rush that's been getting better. Uh, we were talking comeback

858
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: player of the year in a normal year. Randy Gregory

859
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: my be a nice option. He has been balling for

860
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 1: Dallas and he has been through a lot, has been

861
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: not hasn't been in the NFL very often. He's playing great.

862
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: Another comeback player that your kid. How about Andy Dalton

863
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: the Red Rifle playing well lately making the offensive line

864
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: look better. But when I heard this week that Jerry

865
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: Jones was in such a good mood on his radio

866
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: appearance that said he said he's been dancing around the

867
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: house because there, you know, they got a chance to

868
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, I thought, oh, they're gonna lose, and

869
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: there's you know, I would never remembered about locking up

870
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: the Cowboys Greg because uh, you know, it seems like

871
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: everything's going in their direction. But every time you get

872
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: on board with the Dallas Cowboys, uh, they stick it

873
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: in your face and say you should not have trusted us.

874
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: So I'm not doing it this week. However, I am

875
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: picking Dallas to win this game because you look at

876
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: the Giants since they're week eleven by this is how

877
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: many points they have scored in every game nineteen and

878
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: seventeen and two wins and then seven, six and thirteen

879
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: in three losses consecutively. They can't score points. And even

880
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: if Daniel Joe was healthy, I don't know if I

881
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: would totally trust them. So I think the Cowboys in

882
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: their offense and those three wide receivers and Zeke even

883
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: looking better last week, they should take care of business

884
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: here and be on the couch with hope against what

885
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: with Washington's playing, what could go wrong? I'm taking the

886
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: Giants made of tougher stuff. Oh I like that? How

887
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: about you, Cecler? I'm going Cowboys. I think it'll be close.

888
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: They'll make it dramatic, But Dallas is the team right now.

889
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: That's peaking. All right, let's get through the rest of

890
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: the week seventeen slate. Now, there's gonna be some dogs

891
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: in the rest of these games, now that we've gotten past,

892
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: like the games that have major playoff implications. UM, let's

893
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: resume our draft. Uh, set up and Mark you get

894
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: us going here? Uh for the rest of these games.

895
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna take Seattle at San Francisco. UM.

896
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: You know, I if you listen to this show, or

897
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: if if you're the two of you, UM, Dan and Greg,

898
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: you're clear you understand that you know this is my

899
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: last chance to take a look at Kyle Shanahan and

900
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: in a team. Frankly that I'm a little um disturbed

901
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: and annoyed will not squeak into the playoffs if a

902
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: team like the Bears does, just because I think San

903
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: Francisco could do anything to anyone at any week, or

904
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: they could be disappointing that there that they're the variance

905
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: is high. Um, I think they can give Seattle a

906
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: game here. They're gonna do what they did to the

907
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: Cardinals a week ago. Their defense, I thought, um, in

908
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: Robert Sala, it will be his last appearance in San Francisco,

909
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: I would wager by looking at Kyle Shanahan for one

910
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: last time. What does that mean? I think it's clear.

911
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: I think it's clear. What I mean, you know, Dan

912
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: to watch him on Game Bass if you're that Randy

913
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: do I need to see him live? Okay? And like

914
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 1: the last time actually that Dan and I um were

915
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: out in public, uh you know, peddaling our wares and

916
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: hanging out with the public. We saw Kyle Shanahan at

917
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: an exclusive party and um, Dan, you spoke to him.

918
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to and I, um, I

919
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: still that still stings a little bit. So I need

920
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: to get all the Shanahan I get, and you and

921
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: you In my defense, I was very drunk at the time.

922
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell the other part of this

923
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: story that you were not. You were not. It was

924
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: not clear to you that that was Kyle Shanahan. At

925
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: one point, I was like, because he was wearing like

926
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: a Bros. Baseball hat and like this like warm up suit,

927
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: but the whole rise like how many other guys Kyle

928
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: Shanahan looks like when he's not on the sideline wearing

929
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: a black flat BRIMMS forty Niner's hat. No, you're right,

930
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: You're right. Um. I met Kyle shanahana at a Hooters

931
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: once when he was the offensive coordinator in Indianapolis. Jeff

932
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: Darlington introduced me and it was like, you know, John,

933
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: all these other little all that all these other coaches

934
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: are that they all look like my size practically. I'm like,

935
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: this is an offensive staff for the floors, brother and

936
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 1: there and then the rest of the run game corner. Greg,

937
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm a little like, I'm I'm struggling to imagine you

938
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: at Hooters, especially that grimy Indianapolis one, But you were

939
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: rolling the Mark Davis was there too. In some zoo

940
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: bas where we forget it, I'll never forget it was

941
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: before I knew you guys before we met. The last

942
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: thing I will say real quick that Robbie Gould missed

943
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: two field goals in a pH t last game. Okay,

944
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: then agrees to a two year contract extension. Then catches Corona.

945
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: What a week. That's a busy week. Week. Uh this

946
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: is you know, the rainmaker hasn't been out all year.

947
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: Not gonna bring it back right now, but this is

948
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: a weird one in in the desert for me. The

949
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: Seahawks are playing to win, and everyone's got this weird

950
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: thing of like, well, these four, these forty niners team

951
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: like they're frisky, they try hard. Okay. Uh, Brandon Ayouk

952
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: has been the key to their team over the last

953
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: eight weeks. Out this week, Trent Williams the best player

954
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 1: on their team. Out this week. Uh, newly out. I

955
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: mean they're adding new great players to lose every week.

956
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: Sherman's out, Kawan Williams their best defensive player a week ago,

957
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: out this week. I do not think this is gonna

958
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: be competitive. Seattle is trying to get that home field advantage.

959
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: Their defense is playing better, having guys step up at

960
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: DJ Reid revenge game. A guy who got away from

961
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: the forty niners and is playing great for Seattle. I mean,

962
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: I think Seattle could win this game by by thirty,

963
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: all right, and they could. The Seahawks can get the

964
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: number one seed in the NFC, UH if they win

965
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: and then get a little bit of help. So we'll

966
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: see what happens. And it's it's no joke we we

967
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: talked about on the show this past week. The Seahawks

968
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: defense has gone from liability uh to borderline strength um.

969
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: And I expect them to keep it up. And one

970
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: one person who will no longer be on the sideline

971
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: for San Francisco is Robert Sala Sala Sala. He is

972
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: getting one of these jobs. Book it uh. So that

973
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: will be a big task for Kyle Shanahan in the

974
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: offseason finding a new d C. But that's for a

975
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 1: conversation down the road. Up next, I will pick uh

976
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: and I will select all right, let's do it Jets

977
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: at Patriots. I am locked in I being the Jets.

978
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: I am locked into the number two overall pick. There's

979
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: nothing that can happen that can get the Jets to

980
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: number one. There's nothing that can happen they can get

981
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: the Jets at a number two and into number three

982
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati winning these last couple of weeks, so here

983
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: we are. The only thing left to do is absolutely

984
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: spank the Patriots, and it won't mean much because the

985
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 1: Jets are brutal and they're two and thirteen on the year.

986
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: UM and I did, and we had this conversation with

987
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger on Tuesday's show. There is this fear that

988
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: Jets ownership could take a potential three game winning streak

989
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: and and use that as a springboard to keep Adam Gaze.

990
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: But if you read between the lines, you know what's

991
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: out there. And Schreeger, which I didn't really think of

992
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: until after the moment. Boys, he's pretty in tight with

993
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: the Jets, so he had to be careful what he

994
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: said there. But Gaze has gone to go kill the Patriots.

995
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: Embarrassed the Patriots, Sam Donald play play the hell of

996
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: a game, and that's how you go into the offseason. Greg,

997
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: you'll be watching, I know you will. I will not

998
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: watch this game. This is the first UM week of games.

999
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to not watching a few of the

1000
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: games because we're not not even gonna watch it on

1001
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: game pass. After the fact, we don't need to see it.

1002
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: Um maybe in the off season if we're getting really crazy.

1003
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: I do think I do think there's um a couple

1004
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: of things that you should point out with the Jets there.

1005
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: I actoually, I don't think there's anything Sam Donald should

1006
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: or can do in this game that should impact with

1007
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: the Jets do at quarterback. I think that's a crazy conversation,

1008
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: and I do, and I suspect there isn't anything that

1009
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: he can do that should affect. Doesn't mean he's not

1010
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: on the team next year. Maybe he's competing with someone,

1011
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: but whatever he does, it shouldn't it shouldn't matter. He

1012
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: hasn't shown enough. I also thought about, like, you know,

1013
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: how people give a lot of credit, like, oh, guys

1014
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: are playing hard for this coach, And I've thought about,

1015
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: like watching these teams, maybe that's not that special. These

1016
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: guys are all like uber professionals and uber motivated. That's

1017
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: how they got to where they are. All that Almost

1018
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: all these teams play hard. Maybe there's like a couple

1019
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: exceptions of guys here or there, but it's like every

1020
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: year there are teams complete. It's kind of randomness though,

1021
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: I think that does it like it's a collection of

1022
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: a ball players. For the most part, these guys are

1023
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: proud and they're playing for contracts and the playing like

1024
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: look at the Falcons every single week, like most of

1025
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: these teams are playing hard. And then lastly, because it's

1026
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 1: my last chance to do it, shout out to Patriots

1027
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: m v P Jake Bailey. It's the guy that you

1028
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: know all along Bill Belichick wanted the magical left handed

1029
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: punter to be the best punter in the league. And

1030
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: you know what, nothing else went right in but he

1031
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: found it. Jake Bailey First Team All Pro. What a punter,

1032
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: What a season? I mean, Greg, And once again you

1033
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: separate yourself from nine of Patriots fans that you're this

1034
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: is this genuinely makes you excited and happy today that

1035
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: that the punter of the Patriots, if we told you

1036
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: back in August, is the most um affected performer that that.

1037
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. Belichick has wanted a punter like this

1038
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: his whole life. He's super into it, and they finally

1039
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: found out they've developed this kid. I mean, he is

1040
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: an incredible punter and for and that we haven't mentioned

1041
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: it nobody this offseason asking which one of these rosters

1042
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: is farther away it's more than just a quarterback for

1043
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: newing Land. Nobody has had a higher profile than a

1044
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: Patriots punter this year. I mean, this offense is bad

1045
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: and Cam Newton. I don't know if he's playing in

1046
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: this game, but he shouldn't be. There's just nothing there

1047
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: with Cam and this Patriots offense. Uh it feels like

1048
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: he'll be back in the free agent uh derby in

1049
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: this offseason and we'll see if Jards Diidham has a

1050
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: chance to be in the quarterback room. But I don't know.

1051
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: It seems impossible. That's almost surprised the Patriots are favored

1052
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: in this game by by three points. Well, if you

1053
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: look at the history between these two teams and how

1054
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: Donald's played against Belichick, I get it, um, But I

1055
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: wonder if there's any chance that the starting quarterback in

1056
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: Week one for the Patriots next year is on this

1057
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: roster right now. I don't. I don't think he is.

1058
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: I can't sell that outside outside chance. I think Cam Newton,

1059
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: but that would be an outside chance. I don't think

1060
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: there's any after what you've seen these last ten weeks

1061
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: to the fan base, how are you gonna sell that

1062
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: to you? What do you resign him for well, one thing,

1063
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: I know Bill Belichick does not care about in anything

1064
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: to the fan base. If anything, he wants to annoy,

1065
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: you know, he wants to go counter to that. Yeah, well,

1066
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: how do you sell to yourself? Then, if you've watched

1067
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: this game, Robert Kraft, it would be surprising. It would

1068
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: be very surprising if he's back, all right, Greg, Oh yeah, yeah,

1069
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,959
Speaker 1: more like Oh, by the way, it's not It's not

1070
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: nothing Sam Donald can do. He could play really well,

1071
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: go into the off season on a good note, helps

1072
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: his trade value, potentially puts a thought in Joe Douglas mind.

1073
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: But there's nothing he could do. I guess what you're

1074
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: saying to lock in a role as the Jets, I'm

1075
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: saying nothing he can do now after thirty five games

1076
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: or whatever it's been, should change their approach. Doesn't mean

1077
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: he's not part of that there competition or something. But yeah,

1078
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you can't. You can't go on this.

1079
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he's played during this streak. I don't

1080
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: think he's played like much better than he was. Well,

1081
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: it's notable that Adam Case was asked why he should

1082
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: stick around his quarterback and he pointed to the way

1083
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: that Donald finished last, which is as much on the

1084
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: team in Adam Gates as it is on Sam Donald. Okay, um,

1085
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: I need to make a pick here. I'm like confused,

1086
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: what's available. Let's go with the Chargers and the Chiefs. Uh.

1087
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: We found out earlier this week Chad Henny is going

1088
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: to be starting this game for the Chiefs. Um another

1089
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: one little strange in the desert people thinking that the

1090
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: zombie Chiefs are gonna be competitive. We'll see. The Chargers

1091
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: have a lot to play for here, trying to win

1092
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: their fourth straight game. Yeah, Anthony Lynn, I think could

1093
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: possibly save his job. Justin Herbert puts a capper on

1094
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: the offensive. Rookie of the Year. I would expect key

1095
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: guys like Frank Clark, maybe Honey Badger. Sammy Watkins has

1096
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: been a little banged up. You know that you can't

1097
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 1: sit everyone. It's tricky with the with the roster size

1098
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: as small as they are. I mean, there's gonna be

1099
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: a lot of important players playing for the Chiefs, including starters,

1100
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: but for the most part, they're laying down in this game.

1101
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 1: Hen he's actually looked okay the couple of times he's

1102
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: come in like, it wouldn't surprise me if they move

1103
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: the ball because it's Andy Reid Colin plays. But this

1104
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: is a dead game. I don't have a tremendous amount

1105
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: of opinion to add to that if we're looking to

1106
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: actually move this. Did you know that? So the Chiefs

1107
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: are fourteen and one, which is a tremendous record. Obviously, um,

1108
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: they could have the best record in history of the

1109
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: franchise with a win in Week seventeen that they don't

1110
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: care about and they don't shouldn't because they already locked

1111
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: into the number one seed. But each of their last

1112
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: six wins has been by six points or less, and

1113
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: not since the Jets game have they won, Um, have

1114
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: they won comfortably. So it's a great test in terms

1115
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: of Kenna team flip the switch because I I sincerely believe,

1116
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: and I think most people are in this camp that

1117
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are not a team that's scuffling so much,

1118
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: even though Patrick Mahomes's numbers are are deflated. The last

1119
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: few weeks has been human um as much as they

1120
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: just don't feel challenged and they're waiting for what's going

1121
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: to happen in two weeks. I I I believe that

1122
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: I don't do you guys, are you on the same page.

1123
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: Do you have any concerns about which Chiefs teams shows

1124
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: up in the second round of the playoffs? The way

1125
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: thing I kind of struggle with is and I get it,

1126
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. They seem a little bored

1127
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: to me, and we've been saying that, um, but I like,

1128
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: I struggle with the idea that a team that's fourteen

1129
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: and one is actually feeling waves of boredom and just

1130
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: trying to get through games. I think like they're just

1131
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: you know, people are pressing them a little bit. But

1132
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: the idea that like they're just sort of holding back

1133
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: and not trying hard. It's just not how teams operate.

1134
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: It's not it's not an effort issue. I don't think

1135
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: it's more like complacency, which is a little bit different

1136
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: to me. I sensed that when you watched that game.

1137
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 1: That game last week was awesome. By the way, if

1138
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: someone was bored and wanted a game pass game this

1139
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: week or for the off season, like that Falcons Chiefs

1140
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: game was was really interesting. I think defense should look

1141
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: at what Raheem Morris did in that game. I have

1142
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: not seen Mahomes as scrambled as he was. I don't

1143
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: like the fact that they're gonna be two weeks off.

1144
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: And to answer your question, I just don't think there's

1145
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: a big gap between them, the Bills, the Saints, the

1146
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: rest of the top of the NFL. Like if I

1147
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: had to pick one team, I picked them, But I

1148
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: think like it's pretty close to even at the top

1149
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: of the NFL. I don't put them like way ahead.

1150
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: If A J. Terrell comes down with that Mahomes pass

1151
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 1: late in the fourth quarter and he had it, all

1152
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: he had to do was survived contact with the ground,

1153
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: it's annoying when a team could be as good as

1154
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and get a break like that. I feel

1155
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: like that's part of the thing that drove me crazy

1156
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: about the Patriots over the years, that it felt like

1157
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: those things happened all the time. But would that have

1158
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 1: mattered in this week because it wouldn't have beat So

1159
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: they beat the Bill, So it's right, it was locked.

1160
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: There was no there was no making Week seventeen interesting.

1161
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's move on, Greg Snakes to you. Oh,

1162
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: I forgot that the Bucks Falcons is still out there.

1163
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: Glad I remember, I'm glad. I remembered in time, because

1164
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: this game at least has some juice. The Bucks do

1165
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: want to get the five seed. It's that's important because

1166
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: the winner plays at Washington. And if the Buccaneers lost

1167
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: this game, which they're certainly capable of doing, I know

1168
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: they've been playing well, but they were down to Atlanta.

1169
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 1: Atlanta has been frisky competitive. We keep expecting them to

1170
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: not be competitive, and yet they've you know, four straight

1171
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: weeks against really mostly against really good teams. They're right

1172
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: in it until the buzzer. The Bucks want them, Yeah,

1173
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: that they want that five seed because if they lose

1174
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: in the Rams one, they would fall down to six

1175
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: and play a much tougher Week one game than than

1176
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: the winner of the NFC East. They could probably be

1177
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: playing Seattle. Uh So, it's it's the end of this

1178
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: Falcons team and ready to say goodbye. But they are

1179
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: potentially one of the greatest four win teams in NFL history.

1180
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they played that second hardest schedule in the league.

1181
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: According to Football Outsiders. They are two and eight in

1182
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: one score games, including you know, against the Saints and

1183
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in the bus like it's like against good teams,

1184
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: and I feel bad for them. I don't think their

1185
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: pieces are gonna fit like their next coach either. It

1186
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: was such like a dan Quinn defense that it's a

1187
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: little bit more of a rebuilding job, I think than

1188
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: people realize. But at least you have Thatt Ryan. That's

1189
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: usually an indictment of the coaching staff when you're a

1190
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 1: team that has pieces and just loses a ton of

1191
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: close games. But it's a little different because they fired

1192
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: one guy brought in young Gary. I'm with you that

1193
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: they've been competitive. They've been competitive week after week. It's

1194
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: all relative best four and eleven team. Never I mean,

1195
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: there might not be many great Well that's I mean

1196
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: that also, are you basing that off your beloved dv

1197
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: o A or is that just you? Are you spitballing

1198
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: that their best the best four and eleven? Well, that's

1199
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: just that's just me. The schedule they faced, truly has

1200
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: been the second toughest and there's only been a couple

1201
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: of games. You know, they have as many to score

1202
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: losses as you know some of the best teams in

1203
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: the league. Like every game comes down to the end,

1204
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: So they've definitely been on lucky. I'll say, I don't

1205
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: even think they're the best four and eleven team in

1206
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: football this season. Give me the team that has Deshaun

1207
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: Watson and I think they beat and eleven team. Ye,

1208
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: Watson beats the Falcons. I believe it. That's interesting, sort

1209
00:57:55,440 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: of interesting. I look at I'm into started it into

1210
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: the idea of Tampa Bay um starting the way they

1211
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: did last week, and it's it's a it's not going

1212
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: to be the Lions again, a team that is, you know,

1213
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 1: essentially lying in a casket at this point in Detroit.

1214
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, thirty four points, four d and

1215
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: ten yards in the first half. Look at Grunkowski right now,

1216
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:19,959
Speaker 1: and in arians and Tom Brady talked about the fact

1217
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: that they feel he looks the way he did six

1218
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: or seven years ago. It just raises the argument for

1219
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: me a little bit of like whether that whether or

1220
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: not that's true. He's been much better than he was

1221
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: earlier in the year. Like some of these players in

1222
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: the years off they take um and it's not many

1223
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: really helped them, And I wonder if there should be

1224
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 1: more sabbatical years for certain players who have been through

1225
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: so much. But regardless, um Brady's throws of twenty plus

1226
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: yards over the last couple of weeks have been great. Um,

1227
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: he was struggling in that area before. This team that

1228
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 1: I saw against the Lions I can buy into. I've

1229
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: struggled to buy into them as super streaky. But if

1230
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: you get that they could beat anyone, right, that was

1231
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting to Mark. I'm not suggesting that you're like,

1232
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: do I want to spend twenty minutes on which four

1233
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: eleven teen would play another one? Now? I think about

1234
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: the world's like worst first tape topic or falcons, Let's

1235
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: spend a whole block on that. I feel like we

1236
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: did like a montage of Bucks conversation a lot of it.

1237
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: For you, Mark would be about Rob Gonkowski season, Like

1238
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: you've been tracking this very close. I don't feel like

1239
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: I mentioned it that much, but maybe I have. But

1240
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: he's been good. I'm I'm with you. I don't think

1241
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: he's the old days though, right he just show he

1242
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: does pop up every once in a while and makes

1243
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 1: a play. Though he's seeking like six in the league

1244
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: among tight ends and receiving yards, so he has been

1245
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: productive for that. So when Arians and Brady say that

1246
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,479
Speaker 1: to each other, Um, and you know, like I would

1247
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: think Brady would know better than anyone. I'm with you.

1248
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: I it kind of struck me, as is that true.

1249
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't think it's true. Are they just sitting there

1250
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: and trying to like make each other feel good? Why

1251
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: even have that conversation if it's clearly untrue. They love him,

1252
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: They love Gronk, everybody loves grown. Would be so specific

1253
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: to say he's the player he was seven years ago. Oh, yes, Tom,

1254
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: Yes he is. Yes, Bruce, didn't I make such a

1255
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: good comment to you. Maybe it's just like one of

1256
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: the things you say. It's like, hey, we've had the

1257
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: best season our podcast has ever had, and maybe we have,

1258
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: maybe we haven't been challenging. I know that we're doing

1259
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: the best we can here. Well, we don't know. I

1260
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: don't think it is because West hasn't been here certainly

1261
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,439
Speaker 1: this year. I don't think we're saying it's best year though,

1262
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 1: you don't. We don't pump each other up that way.

1263
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: Put it this way. I do always, Mark, I always

1264
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: pump you up with other men behind your back. Um,

1265
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: if you got a couple of whiskeys in Tom Brady

1266
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: and asked him that question on New Year's Eve, Hey, Gronk,

1267
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: same guy as he was six years ago. Yeah, guy,

1268
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: but he's he's it's great that he's back and it's

1269
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: been fun playing with him and he puts in the work.

1270
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: But he's not that guy anymore. Well, I would sit

1271
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: in Brady and arians like, it's time to have honest

1272
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: converse stations with each other. And this is now January.

1273
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 1: This isn't a tea party and a bunch of moms

1274
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: trading vacation photos. Let's let's get real here, all right,

1275
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: let's move on. Remember when we were like, yeah, we're

1276
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: gonna fly through these games. Let's do uh tea party

1277
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: with moms trading vacation photos about it? Um? Uh? Saints Panthers?

1278
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: Is that still there? Oh? Really? Shoot, I would have

1279
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: taken that one. I'm out of this. I will take

1280
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: this game late in the draft. And that's a home

1281
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 1: run because the Saints have something to play for here.

1282
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: They are in the hunt for the number one seed.

1283
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: They have to win, uh and then get help. The

1284
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: Packers have to loses. It as simple as that is,

1285
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: they win and Packers losing, Saints the number one seed. Um,

1286
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: they win. No, it's not that simple because they need

1287
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 1: the Seahawks to win. Actually, they need a three way

1288
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: tie at twelve. And for the sat the Seahawks are

1289
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: have a little different you know scenario to get to one.

1290
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, they need the Seahawks to win. And as

1291
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: as things stand right now, if the current playoff picture holds,

1292
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: the Saints would host the Bears in the wild card

1293
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: round to seven matchups. So the Saints that are gonna

1294
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: be um playing at four o'clock here, so I don't

1295
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 1: know if it's decided or not by that now, they're

1296
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: all at the same time. They set it up nicely

1297
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: that way. Good good, So that will be fun to watch.

1298
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: And you see Drew brees Um on the field as

1299
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: he continues, you would think to um, you know, get reps,

1300
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: knock off the rust and then Alvin Kamara of course,

1301
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: how do you follow up a six touchdown game? Uh?

1302
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: That brought Old Zeuser a fantasy title. I don't know

1303
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: how you do it, but he's gonna try. I mean,

1304
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: if he has four, it's like, oh, he's not even himself.

1305
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: It is. It is very Saints luck though that they

1306
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: get the if they get the two seed, to get

1307
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 1: the two seed. The first year that the two seed

1308
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: doesn't get you by it's like last year they finished

1309
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: what weren't they thirteen and three and they didn't get

1310
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: a by They've they've had some brutal luck, but maybe

1311
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: it's good to get a first round playoff when if

1312
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: that's how it plays out, they they should they should

1313
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: be playing to win. Um if they see what's going

1314
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: on in the other games and they don't like it.

1315
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 1: When when shocked me to take breeze out, because you

1316
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 1: know they can win games without breeze. They've shown that,

1317
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: Like we might see a little Jamis Winston here. The

1318
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: offensive line is so good. I think Lottavius Murray to me,

1319
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 1: is like the Bell Weather of this team. If Lottavius

1320
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: Murray is ripping off twelve or sixty seven, like, then

1321
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 1: you know we're dominant because he's just gonna be a

1322
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: guy who like kind of gets what's blocked. He's a

1323
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: good player. But when he's rolling, it's like we're just

1324
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: steam rolling you because it's a sign you have no hope.

1325
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: And I would think that's gonna happen. This Panthers team has.

1326
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: I know they've gotten some wins, but they their offense

1327
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: is taken on water lost in these six touchdown performance

1328
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: for Kmar. I think that Murray had like eighty yards

1329
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: last week. They it's nearly nearly six hundred yards of offense.

1330
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I would just ask this quickly, do you

1331
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: think that this has been a successful year from matt

1332
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: rule one to ten, I would say yes, Um, maybe

1333
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: not wins losses, but you don't leave the season worried.

1334
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: You leave the season. I give him a seven because

1335
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: the main thing is are you going to bring a

1336
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: good offense? You know to Carolina? And when you watch them,

1337
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: they have four players over nine yards from scrimmage. None

1338
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: of those players are named Christian McCaffrey. I mean, he's

1339
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: getting Mike Davis. You know that kind of yard is

1340
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel, you know. So that's what you wanted, was

1341
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: a good offense, and I think he did that. I

1342
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: think he's more fine. I don't put too much into

1343
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: the record, but I think a big part of his

1344
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: job will be developing a quarterback. I don't think Teddy

1345
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: Bridgewater is kind of a veteran guy, so that's a

1346
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: little bit of a trickier thing. I don't know if

1347
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 1: Teddy is the answer then, so it's a little bit

1348
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: of an incomplete graide for me because I want to

1349
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: see what they do at quarterback this offseason. Then I

1350
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: want to see if they do indeed go with someone else,

1351
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 1: how that goes. But I feel like you feel like

1352
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: you're in pretty good hands right now in Charlotte, and

1353
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: they have that big general manager decision to make as

1354
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: well as well. Oh my last thought on the Saints.

1355
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: Interesting team to keep an eye on here. They obviously

1356
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: have had a lot of great years and a lot

1357
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: of a lot of pain in January last year. I

1358
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: remember on this very show like about a year ago exactly. Um,

1359
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: next week, I said this, that's the best three seed ever.

1360
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: It's thirteen and three Saints team, and then they get

1361
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: picked off by Kirk Cousins in the playoffs. Uh. And

1362
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: if you're a Saints fan, your conditioned for heartbreak to

1363
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: come follow you into January? Is that gonna happen again?

1364
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 1: And Drew Brees is most likely last year. I think

1365
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of good drama around the Saints right

1366
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: now and I look forward to kind of tracking it

1367
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: as an outsider. Um, we'll see how it plays out.

1368
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: Mark Alright, Well, this is simply because of the time slot,

1369
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: but I will go las Vegas at Denver up two

1370
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: of them most disappointing teams, not only the a f C,

1371
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: but the entire league. For the way that Las Vegas

1372
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: crumbled down the stretch. Um, for the way that their

1373
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: defense has simply vanished. Um, if it was there to

1374
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: begin with, it has vanished. And on offense the Broncos um.

1375
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: Good luck finding a team that underwhelmed more. When I

1376
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: went into the season, I thought we all did, thinking

1377
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: if this clicks, they could be um intriguing, even if Luck,

1378
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: even if Lock is just sort of a mid tier guy.

1379
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 1: There were so many weapons and you know, I can't

1380
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: get at the image out of my head of watching

1381
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: them play the Chargers last week and have Jerry Judy.

1382
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned this, he had fifteen targets and

1383
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, five catches and five or six. Watch that

1384
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: Mark you had mentioned on the Sunday Show, the five drops.

1385
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wow, I can't wait to see this.

1386
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 1: He was targeted you said fifty, and felt like he

1387
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: was targeted a thousand times. And they weren't just drops.

1388
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: There were drops in the end zone. There was a

1389
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: drop on a deep ball late that they could have

1390
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: won the game. Stuff. It was a high profile bonner

1391
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: of a performance by Jerry Judy. Yeah, and he's he's

1392
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: been and I don't know is it all on him?

1393
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it him in lock? But um, he's

1394
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: been targeted like a hundred and eleven or end with

1395
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: the it's like a hundred and something times, and his

1396
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: catch rate is very low. So I would love because

1397
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: I do think this is a very talented player who's

1398
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: had a just a rough rookie season. I think a

1399
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 1: lot of it is neck up. Here's a Raiders defense

1400
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: that if you watch how that ended that game happened

1401
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: with Miami, these guys can't tackle. There an embarrassment. Um,

1402
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: go Broncos. This is a chance for you to show

1403
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: what you want to be. I'm not sure it's gonna happen,

1404
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of changes are ahead and they have

1405
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: to get real about their quarterback position. But if we

1406
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 1: want to see the Broncos thrive on offense, this would

1407
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 1: be the spot. God, I'm so happy not to have

1408
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: to have that conversation for another like six or seven months.

1409
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: Broncos offense is what it is. It's a limited quarterback

1410
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: with good skill players and it's just not coming together

1411
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: and they'll have to make a decision. Actually, I thought

1412
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: Lock not playing well last week was a good thing

1413
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: because they didn't need another quote unquote strong finish uh

1414
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: to cloud the minds out of the decision makers in Denver.

1415
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: They gotta go to bring in somebody else at the

1416
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: very least to compete for that starting. It concerns me,

1417
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: like Fongio Stain, Fongio today was um saying sweet nothings

1418
01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: about Patch Shermer, Patch Shermer in Lock like each other.

1419
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,280
Speaker 1: Lock has said how helpful it is to have Schermer around,

1420
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: like there's a good relationship. So with all that in place,

1421
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, does it extend to the quarterback? I think

1422
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: it just talked about arians and and the grand thing

1423
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: maybe that you know they believe only what you must.

1424
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: I think this is their last. I think this is

1425
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 1: Drew locks last start for the Bronco. It will probably

1426
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: get one if someone gets hurt in front of him.

1427
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: I think he's their backup next year. About a bad

1428
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 1: backup at all though he's a good backup, and I've

1429
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,799
Speaker 1: actually thought about it with the Cowboys saved their season

1430
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: basically when they signed Andy Dalton, who has been a

1431
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: great backup and Um then used to look at teams

1432
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: like the Cardinals and the Rams, who are in a

1433
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: potential situation where you know, uh, well definitely the Rams

1434
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: of maybe even the Cardinals where it's like, okay, our

1435
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: seasons on the line. Now we're gonna bring a guy

1436
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: out that's never thrown a pass before in the NFL.

1437
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:08,759
Speaker 1: Going after that, you know, high tier backup quarterback. Maybe

1438
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: teams should be a little bit more aggressive about we

1439
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: killed that. I killed ay about it all off season?

1440
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,480
Speaker 1: How about that that they they they just like wasted,

1441
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: Uh you know that they were going into the season

1442
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: with Driscoll and it's just like, how dare we have

1443
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 1: competition this out? Mark? I believe it snakes to you

1444
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: to close it out right, Yes, in terrible fashion. I

1445
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: am going to be um picking against my will. It's fitting, though,

1446
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: that you're gonna close out our last preview episode of

1447
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 1: the regular season with your Detroit Lions, isn't it? Yeah?

1448
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: My Lions? Who um? You know, I think honestly a

1449
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 1: little self reflection next August, Uh, when you start to

1450
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 1: get excited about football returning and the prospect of new

1451
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: faces and new teams, how about I'm gonna write a

1452
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: little note to myself, one of these ones that like

1453
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: you put in a little time capsule in your yard

1454
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: open on August fifteenth, and whatever team you're latching onto,

1455
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: um illogically stop. It is annoying to you, and it

1456
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: is annoying to everyone around you. Don't do it again.

1457
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: The Lions in this game, please, We don't even if

1458
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's gonna play. Dalvin Cook is home because of

1459
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: a family emergency situation. He will not be in this

1460
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: game either. Riley Reef is on the Corona list. Mike

1461
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:24,719
Speaker 1: Zimmer is coming off a week saying at the defense

1462
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: is the worst defense he's ever coached. I don't know

1463
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: what's going to happen in this game. And guess what,

1464
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't care. There you go. I'm totally with you

1465
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: corn Field this game. And and uh, for the Vikings fans,

1466
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: that was a tough year. The Lions fans hope for

1467
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: brighter tomorrow. You've got a huge offseason coming up. Uh,

1468
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 1: we'll see how it plays out. Greg, you want to

1469
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: button it up? No, I thought I would make you

1470
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: know my first you know game preview of the year

1471
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: where I didn't say anything, but you have to you

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Speaker 1: have to ask me Stafford is probably gonna play in

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Speaker 1: this game? By the way, would be maybe Detroit lines.

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Speaker 1: I would not be surprised. I mean there are Financially,

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01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: there's a path to that happening, and perhaps logically, given

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01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 1: what's happening there, that might be a dynamite it down situation.

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Speaker 1: All right, there you go. That's Week seventeen. Preview them all.

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01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: Sunday is the next time you'll hear from us on

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: the podcast. We recap every game, and that's can't miss

1480
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: episode because by the end of that EPP we will

1481
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: have the complete playoff picture in front of you and

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01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 1: we'll be doing it before anyone else because we grind.

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01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: We grind here in a round the NFL podcast. And

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01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 1: it should be stated, I don't think we ever said it.

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01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,600
Speaker 1: I can't believe we didn't say, because Ricky teased it

1486
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 1: two days ago. Who got moved to the COVID nineteen

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: list for the Los Angeles Rams. It was Erica, it

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01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: was Cooper c you were waiting for no spoilers if

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01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,719
Speaker 1: you stayed offline, Um, it was Cooper Copp, but most

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01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: recently Michael Brocker's as well. Hey, there you go. And

1491
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: while we have Ricky on. You never made a lock

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01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: pick last week. We're gonna give you an l just

1493
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: for not competing. But you do have a chance here

1494
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: while we have you on air. You can take that opportunity,

1495
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: um to lock something up this week, unless you're just

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01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: quitting for the whole rest of the season. Yeah, I

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01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: feel like I should just quit. Well, well you're ahead,

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: she said, ahead of what literally forfeited a loss last week.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I just don't simply have anything else. Uh,

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Speaker 1: And it is obviously we record this on New Year's Eve. Erika,

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Speaker 1: what do you got? Well, I just wanted to say

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01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: to our listeners, but more to you guys, that we

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01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: we made it through. I mean, we were in Miami

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01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: in February and we never ever expected that this this

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01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: would happen, um, and we were doing the Bunker cast

1506
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 1: from we're doing five virtual shows a day. We're doing this,

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: and I mean we've been getting a lot of messages

1508
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: and a lot of tweets and everything about how people

1509
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: were like, it's so nice to have something so you know,

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01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: stagnant and that's not the right word, um, something consistent

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01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: that something. Yeah, it's something that that whatever, so like

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: like like a pool of water with you know, stagnant

1513
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: like we just we never leave like we're we are stagnant.

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01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: We are a rock for those people. So I thought

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: that we could close out the show and I wanted

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01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 1: to read a few um iTunes reviews on Apple podcasts.

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: Um So, and if you want to you know, celebrate

1518
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 1: the holidays or the New Year, it would be really

1519
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: really great and helpful if you guys, um would go

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01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: leave us some more reviews and five stars. If you

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01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: don't want to leave five stars, then don't leave a

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01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 1: review at all. Um So, I just want to read

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01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 1: a couple. I love podcasts and listen to quite a

1524
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 1: few of them every week, but to be honest, all

1525
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: you need for your NFL news is around the NFL.

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01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: The guys are all great and they are not talking

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01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,759
Speaker 1: heads like most other big sports podcasts. Also, this foursome

1528
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: has great chemistry, which makes episodes really funny. I even

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: I'd even say that I wouldn't watch as much NFL

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01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: football if it wasn't for the A t N podcast.

1531
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 1: Keep going, guys here that Roger you know a little money.

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01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: It's the old piggy banks of the Zeus or the

1533
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: old Boss quiet Storm the mail Man, Ricky, We're bringing

1534
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 1: in money to you. Absolutely the best NFL content available.

1535
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,719
Speaker 1: Dan in the Gang beautifully dissect the games each week

1536
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:40,919
Speaker 1: and create some laughs along the way. Top shelf contact content.

1537
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: Sorry written by d Yeah, Dan in the Gang my

1538
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: favorite podcast of any genre. The content is great and

1539
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: the host are genuine. I really couldn't recommend the show.

1540
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: More will always be my go to podcast and has

1541
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: been for years. I downloaded this app just to rate them.

1542
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah about that, and I like that. That's what I like.

1543
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: For get about it's not enough, you want more. It's

1544
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: the disease of more. I don't want just to be

1545
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 1: the favorite podcast in your sports realm. I want us

1546
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: to be your favorite podcast and not being afraid of technology,

1547
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 1: signing up for that app to to drop that comment.

1548
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,640
Speaker 1: That's the next level movement. Love it, love it, love it,

1549
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: love it Ye incredible show, funny and informative. Just a

1550
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,080
Speaker 1: group of guys sitting around talking football and joking around.

1551
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,599
Speaker 1: A bit of a sitcom vibe. Interesting that, you know.

1552
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 1: I think it's been on some hard times. We're gonna

1553
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 1: bring it back. We could use some laugh track that

1554
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: would maybe, Oh that would be a good offseason episode.

1555
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: Just gotta be a negative one here. These five people,

1556
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like a warm blanket on a cold, rainy day.

1557
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,719
Speaker 1: Do they know more about football than your taxi driver?

1558
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: Probably not, but their ability to make you feel like

1559
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: you're sharing a beer at the local watering hole is unparalleled.

1560
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: Get well soon, West, So yeah, it depends. That depends

1561
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: that the taxi who the taxi driver is right? Yeah?

1562
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 1: And and it will suddenly driving a taxi, You're probably

1563
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 1: Greg Williams. Like Greg Williams might be driving a cab

1564
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: right now. I don't know. I'll end it with this

1565
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 1: the best NFL podcast, great group. Greg is hilarious. We

1566
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: need more. Ricky, quit picking on Mark dan Is the

1567
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 1: man I missed. Chris always happy to hear him on

1568
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,799
Speaker 1: the pod. He's my faith. You should do a contest

1569
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: for Nick's nickname. Thank you for regularly giving me something

1570
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 1: to look forward to. So you guys can you guys

1571
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 1: can count on way more um content coming your way.

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01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: For one, And it's been a terrible year, but we've

1573
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: all been together and we're we're happy to be in

1574
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: your your ear lobes every day. That's very nice. Erica

1575
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: and uh, Nick shook. He has a nickname. It's official.

1576
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: He is the j R. Smith of this podcast, six

1577
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: Man of the Year. That's why I call him the Pipe.

1578
01:16:54,520 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: Really don't ye much better? Much better our nickname if

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01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: I don't remember, I had to come up with a nickname,

1580
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,639
Speaker 1: and he's the Pipe. No, I just I mean, I'm

1581
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 1: not going, no one, No one's going with that. We don't.

1582
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: We're not find that. We do think the it is amazing,

1583
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,680
Speaker 1: Like the listeners, UM keep us going. And it's like

1584
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,640
Speaker 1: doing this podcast in its own way. Even at the

1585
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: beginning when we were doing that like daily, which seems

1586
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: crazy now in retrospect, it's been a great distraction. I

1587
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:27,800
Speaker 1: was thinking as much as I'm like, ready, you know

1588
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: that the playoffs are gonna have its own challenge. We're

1589
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: gonna be taping a TV show on a different thing.

1590
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 1: What we'll tell you about all that. That's exciting that

1591
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 1: we're busy. Um, it's it's been like amazing. It's been

1592
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: amazing to have this as a distraction. I don't know

1593
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 1: what I would do without this podcast. I think I'd

1594
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: go a little crazy. Yeah, I would think about the

1595
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: early days when I, um somehow finagled my way to

1596
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: an Airbnb during free agency to uh, under the guise

1597
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: of needing UM to pay attention to the mad Rush.

1598
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: But those were great days on some level, even though

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01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: the world I'd walk outside that Airbnb and like l

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01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: A was melting hardcore. Um, but I'm with you, Greg,

1601
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: I think you said it well. Just we've stared at

1602
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 1: each other on these screens a lot. But UM, it

1603
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 1: means a lot. I would do it for free, but

1604
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 1: don't tell that to the commissioner. It's been a really

1605
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: hard year. It's been a difficult year for us. It's

1606
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: been unbelievable that all this stuff is happening, the pandemic,

1607
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: while Chris is battling cancer again. And how Bravey has

1608
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: been in Lakisha and Young Link what what a battle

1609
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: they've been going through. So that is always on our

1610
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: minds in UM and get well soon Chris. Better times

1611
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: for everyone, including this podcast, because we are not the

1612
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: same when we don't have West with us and UM

1613
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 1: everybody have a have a great new year. And Uh,

1614
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what plans you have. Mark. Has anything

1615
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,640
Speaker 1: gone in the garage? No, very little. I mean, I

1616
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 1: honestly kind of forgot it was new Year's now Airbnb.

1617
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: He's like, now those days of the Airbnb, like the

1618
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: last time I could get away from my family, remember that.

1619
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: And it's like Mark, it's New Year's Eve. Can you

1620
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: can you come back from the motel. This is a narrative.

1621
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: This is not accurate, all right. This is Dan Hanson

1622
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: signing off for Quiet Storm, the old boss, Ricky Hollywood,

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01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 1: the mailman, the pipe. Everybody, Happy New Year and we'll

1624
01:19:20,479 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: see you on the other side. Oh, for God, my dear,

1625
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 1: for a line Zoe. We will take a come cla.

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Speaker 1: Listen for linezo