1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: I want to start us off a little differently today. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 2: Jess Utah people working together. 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,040 Speaker 1: Utah. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: What a great place, Stupie, you can go, but there's 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 2: none that compare. 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: This is the place, by. 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: The way, welcome back and give them all a podcast. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm for Rush out of Salt Lake City, Utah. And 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: I had to bust into song because I will say, Utah. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: This is the place. I fucking agree. 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 3: Wait, what is that? Is that the state song or something? 12 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: Where is that from? 13 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: It's a song that all the elementary schools would perform. Okay, 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: school we would sing a bunch of songs about just 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: like Utah heritage, yeah, how the state came to be. 16 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: But we performed that one first and then there were 17 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 2: a bunch of other songs and then we would end 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: on that song. 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you it was the jam for me. 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: Like I was like, this is the goat. This song 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: hits different. 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: Getting down to the state song, yeah or whatever it is, 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 3: that's hilarious. 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: So there's that, Okay, amazing. So I went to Utah 26 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: on Friday. 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: We got back, well today this will air on Wednesday, 28 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: but we got back last night, Monday night. And there's 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: something that Utah does to my soul. I didn't appreciate 30 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Utah until I left. Then I was like, wow, I 31 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: really just like was raised in a great place. Yeah, 32 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 2: you know, and I wasn't raised Mormon. There's a lot 33 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: of Mormons out there. Which, by the way, if you 34 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: guys haven't started watching Under the Banner of Heaven, you 35 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: are fucking up. 36 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: I haven't watched it yet, but Kyle has been watching it. 37 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: Loves it. I've asked you to watch. 38 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 3: I know I need to watch. I was catching up 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: on Ozark last night. Is it that's a great one? 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: Is it dark? Am I gonna be sad after watching it? 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: You're going to be sad? 42 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: In the first episode, it's it's a it's gut wrenching, 43 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: like so sad, but you're more it's more of like 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: a shock. 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: Okay, that's I like that. 46 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: And they deep dive into how the Mormon Church was created. 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm not going to say a lot about. 48 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: It, but I will say scary. It's very scary. 49 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: That's next on my list. 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: So scary. 51 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: Oh no, see, I might have not I might have 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: to watch it in the morning on the weekends because 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: they might have nightmares. 54 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: It does mess with you when I watch it late 55 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: at night, Like there was one night, like a couple 56 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: of weeks ago, I had watched the first episode. I 57 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 2: woke up in the middle of the night. I had 58 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: this burning sensation in me. I was I ripped my 59 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: eyemask off. I felt like the devil was in the room. 60 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: And I kid you not, and I'm not religious. I'm 61 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: more spiritual, but I believe in God, that's my higher power. 62 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: And I was like, God, you need to fight off 63 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: whatever energy is in this room right now because it's scary. 64 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: Freaks me out. Thanks giving me anxiety. Okay, you guys, 65 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: So just a precursor, Lala told me. She said, oh, 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: do I have some things to talk about, some topics 67 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: to talk about with you today. But she didn't tell 68 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: me any of them. Oh so we're finding them all 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: out together. 70 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 1: All right. 71 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: First, let me tell you this, and I pray Cheryl, 72 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: my sister in law, or Brandon, my brother, if you're 73 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: listening to this podcast and the kids are in the car, 74 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: or at least London, you need to. 75 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Stop it right now. Stop the podcast, turn it off. 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: So this is anyone for any kids, or just let 77 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: anybody's kids who who still has beliefs in certain things 78 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: when Christmas time comes around. 79 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Stop the podcast. 80 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So we're sitting at brunch with my brother's sister 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: in law and his kids, and we're talking about aliens 82 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: and my nephew, who's like thirteen, he like doesn't believe 83 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: in them. 84 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: And I was shook, like you're telling me that we're. 85 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: The only living things. Like I was just like shook, 86 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, I believe in aliens. 87 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 2: And my niece says I do too, and I sit 88 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: back and I was like, but I but I also 89 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: believe that Santa Claus is still real and she goes. 90 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Well, so do I are you saying that he's not? 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: Oh no? 92 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: And my mind every when I said that, the whole table, 93 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: every adult just stop dead stare at me, like, how 94 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: the fuck are you gonna reel this one in? 95 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, so my mind you should. I was like, compute, compute. 96 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 2: I wish I could in the world trying to put 97 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: pieces together, and I did in a matter of seconds. 98 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: I was like, no, he he's real. 99 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: But what people think is that Santa's the one that 100 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: watches us year round, and I don't believe that. I 101 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: believe he stays in the North Pole and makes toys, 102 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: and I believe the elves are the ones that are 103 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: watching us year round. 104 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that just like it gave me anxiety 105 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 3: when you told me so. Wait did she believe that? 106 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: Did she buy it? Yeah? 107 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: She was like, no, I know that because our elf 108 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: watches us. 109 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: Picky. 110 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 3: How old is she She's nine? Oh yeah, give her 111 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 3: a few more years. 112 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 2: My Mormon grandma is the one that broke it to 113 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: me that Santa wasn't real. Wait, because I walked up 114 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: because kids at school. 115 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: I was in the third grade, and I was like, Grandma, 116 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: is Santa Claus real? 117 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: She goes, I'm gonna be honest with you, Lauren, No, 118 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: he's not real. My dad was pissed. 119 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: He was. 120 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: Yes. 121 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: I remember walking outside of her like cute little Mormon 122 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: looking home, and it was like a winter evening where 123 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: this sky gets like. 124 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: A really pretty like nave, like light navy, if that 125 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: makes sense. 126 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: Yes, snow everywhere, and I was just so defeated, sad. Yes. 127 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 3: See, that's the difference between us as kids. Because my 128 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 3: parents told me. I asked them, I said, Santa Reel 129 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: I was probably like eleven. Wait, a little too old. 130 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: He said, is Santa Reel? And they said no, he's not. 131 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: And then I said okay, and I turned around and 132 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 3: I said, what the fuck? Did they know he's real? Right? 133 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: And they're just insane? 134 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: I do believe he's real. 135 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: He is. I don't care what anyone says, like. 136 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: He flies in a sleigh. 137 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: All, well, great, save great. I wish I could have 138 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: seen your face when she asked you that, mom. 139 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I almost outed Santa Claus not being real 140 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: to London, what was your reaction? I was looking at you. 141 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: No, it was so terrifying. 142 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: Did she say? Did she save it? 143 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: Well? 144 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: Lisa? Like, do you think London bought her? 145 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? 146 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: The entire table was like. 147 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: I did. 148 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: And then I went into like, you want to know 149 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: how I know he's real because when La La was 150 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: sneaking into Gigi and Poppy's room one night on Christmas Eve, 151 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 2: I looked down and I saw his twinkling eyes. 152 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Going ready to go up the chimney. You said that, yes, 153 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: because I did. I did see that. 154 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and all the things. 155 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: Had she been older, Had she been older, she would 156 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: have been like, these motherfuckers are trying now. 157 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: Dogs protest too much, y'all they're doing too much. 158 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: So the next thing, I have some topics that I 159 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: learned about in Utah be high state. 160 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: Okay, Jess, have you ever heard of furrize? 161 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we need to talk about this. 162 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 3: Wait, let's meet. Let's see if we've heard of the 163 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: same things, because you remember we mentioned. 164 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: It on tour. 165 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I learned about freeze in the school system. 166 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: Now, wait, you're scaring me, are you this? Because furries 167 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 3: to me when I think of it, that's something sexual. 168 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: Okay, in the school system. So my best friend from 169 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: back home, her kids go to school in Utah. They 170 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: now and this is like a real thing. You cannot 171 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: discriminate against someone who who identifies. 172 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: As an animal. 173 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: They'll wear ears, they'll wear a tail. Teachers are now 174 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: putting bowls in the classroom for them to drink out 175 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: of and eat out of like animals. When they're asked questions, 176 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: they can meow or bark or moo or whatever they identify. 177 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: And then my friend also said, she said, I don't 178 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: know if this is true or not, but they're going 179 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: to start putting litter boxes in the bathrooms because you 180 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 2: must not discriminate against the children who are identifying as furries. 181 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: Okay, are you sure, because like you tell me that 182 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: and I'm like, you've got the wrong information. 183 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: Well that's why I want to talk about it, because 184 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: it comes from a pretty reliable source. And it comes 185 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: from one of my dearest friends. Her name's Olivia, and 186 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: she does this girl's hair who's like thirteen, and she 187 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: goes to school. And this is what this girl has 188 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: told Olivia. Okay, Like this girl, she's thirteen. I don't 189 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: know her name, but I want to get her on 190 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: the podcast. 191 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, I pretend to be a furry sometimes, 192 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: like I'll bark at people in the hall. I'm like, 193 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: this girl's dope. 194 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: But I need someone to shed some light because I'm 195 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 2: a liberated woman. Okay, I am like you do you 196 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: boo this I just cannot comprehend, like not having to 197 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: take tests because you identify as an animal, so and 198 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: animals don't take tests. 199 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 3: There's no Okay, there's no And I'm not doubting you. 200 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: I believe it's like I'm sure some school systems do this. Yeah, 201 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 3: but to me, I'm like, there's no way because I'm 202 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 3: just like you. I'm like liberated. I think if you 203 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: feel you were born whatever. If you're a certain age 204 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: and you feel you were born hey, I feel like 205 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: I identify more as a woman or a man, or 206 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 3: a boy or a girl. You know, talk to your parents, 207 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,359 Speaker 3: binary any of that. Talk you know, do have those conversations, 208 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: talk to your parents, talk to your teachers, do all that. 209 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 3: But I feel like when you get into the animal 210 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: of it all, then it's really taking It's like taking 211 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 3: the what am I trying to say, It's taking the 212 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: not severity, but it's lessening the importance of that. I 213 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: feel like as a little boy or a little girl, Hey, 214 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: I feel this way. I feel like a girl or 215 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: a boy. I feel like I was born in the 216 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 3: wrong body, as the wrong gender, any of that. But 217 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 3: I feel like it's lessening that when it's like, well, 218 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: I well, then I feel like I was born a cat. Well, 219 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 3: I feel like I was born at whatever. I'm just 220 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 3: like it to me, it lessens that. Does that make 221 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: any sense? 222 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 223 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like I because and here's the thing, 224 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: I have a lot of opinions about this. Yeah, I 225 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: don't want to offend anybody, right, So I would like 226 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: someone to maybe shed some light. If you are a 227 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 2: furry listening to the podcast, Yeah, which if you are, 228 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: I need to know because right now I have a 229 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: whole lot of shit going on in my mind. However, 230 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: my daughter, my daughter puts her food on the ground 231 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: and eats it up like a dog, right because she 232 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: watches the dogs eating and she thinks that's how she 233 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 2: is supposed to eat. And I have to tell her 234 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 2: we can't eat off the ground like that. And I'm like, 235 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, do I have a furry well? 236 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: Like, also, did we forget about? 237 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: Yeah? 238 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 3: Do you know how many times I drink water from 239 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 3: a bowl on the ground and ate food from a 240 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: bowl because pretend when I was a kid, When I 241 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: was a kid, you guys, I have to meet that there, 242 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: just like last week when I walk into the office, 243 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: like it's called playing pretend. The amount of times I 244 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 3: dressed up as like an old man, as a little 245 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: girl or whatever is like an an animal or like 246 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: pretended I was a frog. And to me, there's something 247 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 3: about it's so important to play and play for ten 248 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 3: as a kid, that's so important and to get outside 249 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 3: and to be like I'm a dog in this. But 250 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 3: I just don't know how I feel. I need to 251 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: process my feelings. I mean, my immediate feelings are like, 252 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: not the fuck. I'm just gonna be honest. My immediate 253 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 3: feelings are like, no, you're not. We need to teach 254 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: children the importance of knowing the difference between an animal 255 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: and a human. 256 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: By the way, you can't half acid, all right, If 257 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 2: you're gonna identify as a furry, then when we go 258 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: in the airplane, you need to get in your crate 259 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: and you have to stay under the seat until the 260 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 2: plane is thirty thousand feet in the air, where then 261 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: the pilot comes on and says you can turn on 262 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: electronics and you can hold your dog. 263 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 3: You okay, and then I will take you out of 264 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: the crate. But what do you think about because furry 265 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 3: to me has always been the I've heard of, Like 266 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 3: there's a sexual component of being a furry, which is 267 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: you wear these like mascot, full on mascot costumes and 268 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: you go to these quote unquote furry parties and it's 269 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: just like rubbing on each other. No one ever takes 270 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 3: off their mask or their costume, but it's like an 271 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: orgy with this full on mascot costume on. So to me, 272 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: that is like if all the adults are consenting and 273 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 3: you know what you're walking into, and you want to 274 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: dress up, you do your you do the damn for. 275 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: I agree with you. 276 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: But that's very different. 277 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 278 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 2: So if you know anything about furries or what I'm 279 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: talking about, and if what I was told is in 280 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 2: fact true that they're putting these dog or not dog 281 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: but animal bowls in classrooms and litter boxes in the bathroom, like, 282 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 2: please open my mind, because I'm a girl who is 283 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: open to it all. I can get down with things. 284 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: Just make me understand. I don't know that I'll ever 285 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: understand this, but this leads me. When you say sexual 286 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 2: this leads me to the next thing that I want 287 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: to talk about in school systems. 288 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: All right? 289 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: Oh god? So this is on Utah Parents United. 290 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: It's an Instagram page. 291 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: Okay, this is called My Body is Growing, a guide 292 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: for children ages four to eight years old. 293 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: It makes me sick. This is in the book. Okay. 294 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: Sabrina's vagina becomes moist and warm and Marco's penis gets 295 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: very still. Marco then pushes his penis into Sabrina's vagina, 296 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: always in and out. That feels great for both of them. 297 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: When the feeling is nicest Marco's penis sprays semen into 298 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: Sabrina's vagina. Okay, this is in a book that was 299 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 2: in a library a school in Utah, a library for 300 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: a guide for four to eight years old. 301 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: Okay, oh my god, I'm. 302 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: As open as it gets. Yea right, let's talk about 303 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: it all. I'll tell you one thing. 304 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: I drop my kid off to school, who's four, five, six, seven, eight, 305 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: and Ocean picks this book up and reads it. You 306 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: are going to regret the day that you were fucking 307 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: born and allowed this book inside of that fucking school, 308 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: because I will. 309 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 3: Raise hell and guys, just so you know. So I'm 310 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: looking at this. It's Utah Parents United, because Lalla just 311 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 3: handed it over to me. It's the book is called, 312 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: like she said, my body is growing, a guide for 313 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: four to eight year olds. And it's like a cartoon. 314 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 3: Like this isn't a medical book, not that it matters, 315 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: because this is a guide for four to eight year old, 316 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: So already what this is a literal like it's a cartoon. 317 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: On the this looks like a children's book. If I 318 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: were a kid, I would be drawn to pick this up. Yes, 319 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: because it's a boy and a girl in the front 320 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: and then when you scroll over, if you go to 321 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 3: their the Instagram page, you'll see the part that La 322 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: La just read about Saverina's vagina becomes it's a animated 323 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: photo of two as a guy and a girl having sex, 324 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: and there's a like you can't see boobs or vagina 325 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: or penis, but you can see them on top of 326 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: each other. And there's a little teddy bear on the pillow, 327 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: almost like showing that they're younger I'm not gonna say kids, 328 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: but like showing that they maybe aren't full adults. So 329 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: my only thing is like, it's not just it doesn't 330 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 3: look like a medical book. That's like here parents targeted 331 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 3: at parents to talk to their older children, I mean 332 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 3: four to eight years old as wild. But no, it's 333 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: like you just have to go to see it because 334 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: it's a totally different vibe. You hear it, and then 335 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: you look at how the book is drawn and designed 336 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 3: and it looks like a kid's book, and I think 337 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 3: that is crazy. I think it's one thing as a 338 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 3: parent if you choose to say yes, if my kid 339 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: ever asks when they're however, hey mom, dad, what's said? 340 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: You have the freedom and the right to tell them 341 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: however you want. But the fact that that's just on 342 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 3: the shelf of an elementary school in a library, willy 343 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: nilly for a five year old to just pick up 344 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 3: and read, I don't know, that's wild to me. 345 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: Well, it was written and illustrated by Dagmar Geisler. Dagmar's 346 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 2: shame on you for writing a book like this for 347 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: a four to eight years of age. 348 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 3: And that was tell me again, is that in a library? 349 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: It was in a Yes. 350 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 2: So basically, Utah Parents United is parents who get together 351 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: and they share what their children are exposed to in schools. Yes, 352 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: And I think that that is completely inappropriate for the 353 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: ages four to eight. 354 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 3: They don't need to know about sex at that age. 355 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 3: And if here's my question, though, because I think that 356 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: absolutely inappropriate that book put there without I mean, the illustration, 357 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 3: the fact that it looks like a children's book. Do 358 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: you think though, because this is an I think to 359 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: make clear how you feel, if there's a five whatever, 360 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: four or five six year old who comes up to 361 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: their mom and dad in the home and says, mom 362 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 3: and dad, I heard someone say sex. What sex? Do 363 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: you think it's appropriate if they want. 364 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: To tell and you have the conversation, okay, for your 365 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: kid to be at school at a library and they 366 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 2: just happen to pick this book up and they start reading. Yeah, 367 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: I don't like that. And you know me, Jess, and 368 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: I am so open open. Yeah, let's talk about sex 369 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: all day long. Let's talk about blow jobs. We have 370 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: to protect the youth because if they're exposed to too 371 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: much too young, as they get older, things go astray 372 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 2: and unhealthy habits and addictions start happening. 373 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: Again. 374 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 2: I have trauma from what I've experienced the last however 375 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: many months. Very protective of ocean. I'm very protective of 376 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: the youth and how much you know, we just can't. 377 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: We can't expose them to too much too young. 378 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: I get that, and I have to protect and I 379 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 3: think there's also a time and a place, especially when 380 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: they're that young, and the time in the place, and 381 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: if they don't let's say it's a child who doesn't 382 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: have a parent and they want to ask that question, 383 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: then they go to a guardian or they ask a teacher, 384 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: and then in my belief, it's one hundred percent the 385 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: teacher's responsibility to go to the guardian and say this 386 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 3: child asked about this, Is this something you would like 387 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 3: to talk about if you would like me to talk 388 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: to them about it? What do you want me to say? 389 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 2: Right? 390 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 3: Not in a book that looks like a cartoon book 391 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: that any kid would want to pick up. And also 392 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 3: the fact that it's like this feels great again, this 393 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 3: is just me. But when I'm a mother, if I've 394 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 3: always thought when I'm a mother, I'm gonna use penis vagina, 395 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna use the words yeah, but I don't. 396 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 3: I don't think if they're that young. And let's say 397 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 3: my f year old comes to me and says, what sex, 398 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit there. I'm gonna tell them strictly 399 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: scientifically one hundred. I'm gonna use statements like like christ 400 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 3: and Balandack Sheppard do this. I heard this on Dax's podcast. 401 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna use statements like the woman places the 402 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: man's penis into her vagina, because to me, it feels 403 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 3: like that's showing without saying, without doing too much. When 404 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 3: they're so young, that's showing like a consent, that showing 405 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 3: the woman has control. Almost right, But I'm not gonna 406 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: go and then she like at five years old, and 407 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: then she gets wet and it feels great. 408 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: What no, and his penis sprays, spreaming into her vagina. 409 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: And then in that illustration on that page on the 410 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: side shows birth control all the ways that you prevent pregnancy. 411 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so it shows and also the man sprays the 412 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: semen into the vagina, so there's no condom, Like, what 413 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: do you even? That's a lot that does make me 414 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: a little queasy. And how old is. 415 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: This book by the way, because they're showing all of 416 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: the ways a woman can prevent but there's no condom here. 417 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 3: There's no condom. 418 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: No, there's a diaphragm. 419 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: Oh, there's an iud can't be that old. 420 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 2: There's birth control pills, there's foam caps, but all of 421 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: these are women are for the vagina. 422 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: Okay. 423 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 3: This makes me think this book is like, we got 424 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 3: to look a little more into this, Like it's almost 425 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: like it's that illustrator and writer like the head of 426 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: some sort of weird cults. 427 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I saw and I'm telling you what, 428 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 2: Ocean Kent picks that book up at the age of. 429 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: Four, I am going insane. 430 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't even imagine. I'm gonna look that. I 431 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 3: want to look more into that because I'm like, that 432 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 3: is crazy town. That's crazy. 433 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. 434 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: If your kid comes to you at a young age 435 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: and asks you about things, to sweep it under the 436 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: rug bike. Okay, the conversation, but certainly don't have books 437 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 2: like that in the library. 438 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: No, okay. 439 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: So the person that posted this, it says, last week, 440 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: my two little grade school nieces were reading this Salt 441 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: Lake School District school book to their grandmother. It encourages 442 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: them to explore their sexuality, put things up their rectums, 443 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: and embraces sex with children. They were encouraged not to 444 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: tell their parents. Pictures and texts from the book reposted 445 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: in the comments below. 446 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: Please share. 447 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: Oh done, Send them to jail, Send the writer, send 448 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 3: anyone who is promoting what you just said to jail. 449 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: Bye. 450 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 3: Are you joking? That's what it says, don't tell your parents. Yeah, 451 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: and everything else you just said, that's even like too 452 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 3: horrific to repeat. Goodbye, goodbye, you're all getting you're all 453 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: going to jail. 454 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: It's so, what is going on? 455 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: That's wild? 456 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: Protect the youth that all costs so that they can 457 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 2: grow up to be beautiful spirits make a difference in 458 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: the world. They can't be exposed to too much too young. Okay, 459 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 2: I stand firm on that. There's nothing you can say 460 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: to me that will change my fucking mind. When Ocean 461 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: Count was born, I saw the beauty in the world. 462 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 2: Everything I wanted this world to be was like right 463 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: in my little human that I gave birth to. 464 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: And then I saw all the ugliness and. 465 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 2: I was like, I will do everything in my power, yeah, 466 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 2: to like fight off the evil, Like, don't come near 467 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 2: my child with the shit. Yeah, we should as adults 468 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 2: do everything in our power to protect them. And in 469 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 2: the unfortunate event that young humans are exposed to too 470 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: much too soon, and we know that happens all the 471 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: time and it's heartbreaking, then we just have to pray, 472 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: which like I do every night, we pray that these 473 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 2: children find strength and guidance through you know, other ways, 474 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: and can become one her full powerful, strong adults. Yeah. 475 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: When I was a step parent, she brought me this book. 476 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: I don't know where the book came from. I'm drawing 477 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 2: a blank and she was looking through it and she 478 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 2: told me that she wanted me to look at it. 479 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: She said, I don't know if this is appropriate for 480 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 2: a kid. So I looked through it and it was 481 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: basically teaching It was nothing horrific. It was just basically 482 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 2: teaching you body positivity, no matter what you looked like. 483 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: So there were a bunch of drawings of different. 484 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: Bodies without clothes on. 485 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: Okay obviously, but it was showing like to just embrace 486 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 2: your your body the way it is right. And she 487 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: asked me if I thought it was appropriate, and I said, 488 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 2: I want you to make that call. Do you feel 489 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: like when you look at this? And I told her 490 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 2: what it was trying to teach. I said, this is 491 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: why these are in here, because we have to learn 492 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: to love ourselves. 493 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're too young for it? 494 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: And she looked at it again and she handed it 495 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: about to me and said, I think I'm too young 496 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: for it, and I said, perfect. We won't look at 497 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 2: it until you feel like you're you're ready. But I 498 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: explained to her why the image it was nothing like this, 499 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: by the way. 500 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 3: Now, but what a smart and that's I mean, that's 501 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 3: so great, what a smart girl, and what a like 502 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 3: a great learning moment for her and you and you 503 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 3: just not being like yet oh my god, this is 504 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: too or like forcing it on or being like yes, 505 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 3: you should love this, like toxic positivity, embrace this, read 506 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 3: it all. You gave her the option and are you 507 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: comfortable with this? And that's so important. Again, I'm not 508 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: a mom, but to me, it's like teaching, if you know, somehow, 509 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: teaching children to hear that and feel that gut feeling 510 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: and trust that intuition, right, because you're not going to 511 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 3: be in every situation, no, And if they're in a situation, 512 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: they've got to learn to trust that that gut feeling 513 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: of oh, I don't feel right. Something's wrong, and maybe 514 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what it is, but something's wrong, 515 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 3: and I just I shouldn't question that and I should 516 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: get up and remove my totally. 517 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: Yes. 518 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: And by the way, Jess, I know that you're not 519 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: a mom, obviously, but even when you become a mom, 520 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 2: you sit there and think, am I doing this the 521 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: right way? 522 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? How do I teach my kid all the things 523 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: that I want them to know? And you're gonna mess up? 524 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 2: But then there are times where you're mess up in 525 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: someone else's eyes, maybe was the most brilliant. 526 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: Thing you've ever done, Like none of us have it 527 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: figured out now. 528 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: Hear if you have one kid or you have twelve kids, right, 529 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: you're always learning something different and your kid comes how 530 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: they are. 531 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 3: And that's I loved when my mom said that. She said, 532 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: you're never just You're always going to question if you're 533 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: doing it right. Yeah, and like you just said, there's 534 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: gonna be times where you're like, I really messed up 535 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: and other people would be like, what are you talking about? 536 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: That was the move? A great job? 537 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 2: And like you come from a big family. Your parents, 538 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: I'm sure did one thing with mister Bubbs that. 539 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Would never work with you. 540 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: Never mister Bubbs gets to do everything you know where, Yes, 541 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: we had to teach mister Bubbs this way, but with 542 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 2: ES we got to go this way because you're constantly 543 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: having to rework the system. 544 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: Yes, it's exhausting. 545 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: Makes me pause when I get baby fever, Like I 546 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 3: get to hang out with the ocean most days. So 547 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 3: I'm good for now because I can't. I can't take 548 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: on more responsibility. 549 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: No, it's a lot. Plus you have to help me 550 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: build an empire. 551 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: Yes, so we're building the empire. 552 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: Firm building the empire. 553 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: So we had a lot of fun moments in this intro, Yeah, 554 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: a little bit of heavier moments. I always love to 555 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 2: hear your guys' thoughts on everything we talk about, so 556 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: please remember to call in weigh in your questions concerns. 557 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: If you have any input on Freeze. 558 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 2: Or you have more knowledge educated Educate me, yes, educate me. 559 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: You can call me at four two, four two, five 560 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: nine to one three one. 561 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: And I love you. 562 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to another episode of mine, and 563 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: I will talk to you next week