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Speaker 1: to Pasadena. The Cowboys coaching staff is exchanging handshake. Now

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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and Shannon Gross. By

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Speaker 1: of this show are all Pro Pro Bowl, Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: winner Nate Newton, Nate how are you today, Kurt. I'm

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Speaker 1: the ninety two stuff. It's almost like the teams traded

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Speaker 1: start with below sea level anyway, so it's normally moist

425
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 1: and always soggy. And then it had rain forever and

426
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: they brought in remember they brought in George Tooma. Yeah,

427
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: and he's gonna fix them the field. This guy can

428
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: grow grass, right, So he put all this side down.

429
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: And I was just telling Douglas, I said, it's like

430
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: telling me that I'm putting a rug down on a

431
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: waxed wood floor. What happens to the rug? Well, the lights? Yeah,

432
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: well that side was all over the place. And it

433
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: rained that day too, on top of it. So talk

434
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: about a Yes, Yeah, it wasn't quite as bad as

435
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: you expected, was it. I saw the numbers were bad. Yeah,

436
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: but it was advantage me. Its advantage you knew where

437
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: you were going. Yeah, so much family. Yeah, because as

438
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: long as I knew, I kept my feet up on me.

439
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: I knew stubs and Brian Young went on movement. Those

440
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: other guy can't thinking of old. It was an older

441
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: gentleman their head, Fagan, I think his name. I knew

442
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: they won't for not moving once I got my feet

443
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 1: Actually it was Fagan. Yeah. Michael Carter, Michael Carter, Yeah, yeah,

444
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: that's a big man. Yeah, his girl. He had a girl,

445
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: went to Oklahoma with shot put. Yeah, Olympic champion, Like

446
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: he was right. Yeah, So Kurt, you you mentioned their

447
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: confidence going into that. But Nate told me a really

448
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: good story when I was researching our Legend show that

449
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,719
Speaker 1: just aired on Monday on the nineteen ninety two season

450
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: twenty fifth anniversary of winning the Super Bowl. You told

451
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 1: me that after the Detroit game the year before, when

452
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: you guys got beaten the playoffs, that there was a

453
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: measure of confidence, even though you lost the game badly,

454
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: there was a measure of confidence flying back to Dallas. Yeah.

455
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: We we we were in that locker room and uh uh,

456
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders that just I hate to say, it's about

457
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: a defent head just cut us up. Along with Aaron Kramer.

458
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and so we along with the coaches, we

459
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: were in that locker room. We was like, yeah, yeah,

460
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: we're in the plane we made and we were literally

461
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 1: like kind of celebrating. You know that we have arrived. Man.

462
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy remember Jimmy came in there, man and lived in us.

463
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: This is this is not where we want to be.

464
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: We're not going to be satisfied. I mean, he got

465
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: at us up there in that silver doome as we

466
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: didn't probably blew it up because but we still got

467
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: on that plane knowing that we were a better team.

468
00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: We were a good team in Jimmy told us we

469
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: and be even better and then he went out and

470
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: got that next draft class. Yeah. Wow, man, I'm telling you,

471
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: I know what the infusion of young good players can

472
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: do for you. Yeah, and and Barry Sanders may cut

473
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: you up that that year, but he went to RFK

474
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: Stadium the next week on grass. I saw that, And

475
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad Emmett was on the Cowboys when he all

476
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: went to Candlestick where it was grass and mud and yeah,

477
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: not want Barry in the backfield for that. Well he

478
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: didn't have us blocking fun. But anyway, that brings the

479
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: part going into that game. What was the Because obviously

480
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: your guys were built on the run, but Sam, it's

481
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: just got a great run defense. They had a mediocre,

482
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: if not they were one of the worst past defenses.

483
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: But what's the game? What was the game plan going in? Well,

484
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: what they liked it to do was they shut down

485
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: you run and made you one the mission so they

486
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: can put that extra guy back there so that equal

487
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: out everything, and that's how they beat most teams because

488
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: they would get a league. But I remember, and correct

489
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: me from Ron Leon that that game was tip for tak. Yeah,

490
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Charles Haley flies and didn't get

491
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: a sack over over Wallace and the whole game change.

492
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: I think we got a funnel the something Ronaldo, if

493
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: Russell got the fumbel who got the funnel. But the

494
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: game changed right the momentum that Gay Jason talked about taking,

495
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: they took it. Our defense took it for us right there.

496
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: And you're right because it was ten and ten a time,

497
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: and then it was seventeen thirteen, yes sir. And then

498
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: you guys got that turnover and you went and scored

499
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: and got it to twenty four. Yeah, thirteen, but if

500
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: you look at the stats, they were almost dead even

501
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: if yes sir. That and the thing I forgot about is,

502
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, everybody has this idea that cowboys ran the ball,

503
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: and they ran the ball, both quarterbacks through, for three

504
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: hundred yards that day. Yes, sir, that was amazing. Yeah,

505
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: it was. It was like the grass that everybody worried

506
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: about wasn't even there. Because if you'd, like you said,

507
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: if you look at the stats, you would have thought

508
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: did you have thought it was the rain? Yeah? You

509
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: know you said what I'm saying. That first school was

510
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice deep well, but that was called it back. Yeah,

511
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: the third player of the game, they hit Rice on

512
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: a sixty three yard bomb. Were you guys like, oh boy, yes,

513
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: I remember. Remember what happened. Kevin Smith got hit Ye

514
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: came out of the game for one player. And I'm

515
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna say, I'm gonna tell you what was so funny.

516
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it was when when when Pup came

517
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: out of the game. It was so funny because and

518
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I think Jerry went in motion

519
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: to see what they man the man. When he went

520
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: in motion, I ran across it with him, and Jerry

521
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: just looked at I could see he looked at Steve.

522
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: And I'm saying in my mind and I'm calling it.

523
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: They goes through. I'm calling Jerry, Jerry, you know. But

524
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: it didn't do no good because I was an older gentleman.

525
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: His legs and started. He couldn't even get about it.

526
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: He couldn't even get a about his break. And by

527
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: the time he got about got his hips turn I

528
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: was like, wow, really, how to break through that? Yeah?

529
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: What was leon? What was the game plan for you?

530
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: They had so many weapons and waters are running back?

531
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: Steve Young obviously, Jerry Rice Jones, John Taylor, Yeah, I

532
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: mean what what was your I guess game playing going in.

533
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: I think we did a great job of holding holding

534
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: the run against him that yeah, ye sure, yeah, sure,

535
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: we did a good job against in that um early on,

536
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, that deep ball, uh kind of woke

537
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: us up and we knew it was, you know, the

538
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: urgency that that was gonna take to win the game.

539
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: And I do recall the first sack. I think it

540
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: was like Tony Casills or somebody. Yeah, yeah, red zone. Yeah,

541
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: you know we held him that it was ten ten Yeah,

542
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: they was down there, man, yeah wow because they you

543
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: turned him over fourth down. I believe it happened. I'm

544
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what so so funny was the fact

545
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: that these guys and this is why you know, I

546
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: get an arguments with everybody. These guys were ranked and

547
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't know about that year there, but they're probably

548
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: first number one, number one in defense. And that is

549
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: what you will hear me preach. That is what's winning

550
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: these playoffs now today every year we talked all year

551
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: along about offense, this offense that, but into your defense

552
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: can do what they did. And see I forgot about

553
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: the sea he had the three sacks. I knew he

554
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: had one, and then I forgot about we turned them

555
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: away down there on the goal line. Okay, what if

556
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: they would have scored? Yeah, what if they would have scored?

557
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: You gotta have a defense, Fellows, go ahead. And I'm

558
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: sorry man, no, no, and and and you're right, because

559
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: it was it was seventeen to ten, and they drove

560
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: down to uh they they got down to the nine

561
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: yard line. It was third nine wow, and he held

562
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: him to a seven yard game and they kicked the

563
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: field goals. So now it's seventeen thirteen. And then you

564
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: guys get the ball back and drive the length of

565
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: the field for a touchdown. I think it was the one,

566
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: the little dump pass to Emmett in my sixteen yards, Yeah,

567
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: which I have. I'm gonna tell you something. Well, we'll

568
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: go ahead. Okay, here we go at the sixteen and

569
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: they need the ten slot right ekman back, he's pressured.

570
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: He throws it out. Smith's there, He's got the first

571
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: down coming right to five, Irvan's block puts it in.

572
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith carries it in another third down conversion and

573
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: it's touchdown Dallas with twelve twenty five remaining in the

574
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. And that probably was I don't know

575
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: who man that was at pressured and made it look

576
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: good for Brad's voice wasn't as BASSI back there. Now,

577
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: are we supposed to assume that Irvan did throw a block? Oh?

578
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: He did? He did? Okay, I'm see we ran. I'm

579
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: not gonna even get into that. I'm gonna let lean

580
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: on the lead because I'll be backstabbing his head coach.

581
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: So anyway, But what's so amazing is Jimmy through all

582
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: of that, and he talked to the defense more than

583
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: he talked to the offense. He let Nor literally him

584
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: Nor Acts and these guys literally run that offense. And

585
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: he talked to Troy and to Acts a lot more.

586
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: He talked to anybody. I'm talking about Nor because he

587
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: was upstairs. But during that game, man, at no time

588
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: did you see Jimmy Falter. Did you ever see him Falter?

589
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: During that game? His hair stage straight. You see the

590
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: different shades of red he can get but you can

591
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: say what you want, but it's something to them hand.

592
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Now they get all over Jason for this right here.

593
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: But Jimmy had a certain way he could clap them

594
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: hands and you know what he felt. So there, sometimes

595
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: you knew you're in trouble, oh man, you know, just

596
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: from the class. Yeah and so, But at no time

597
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: during that game, the ups and downs, the good the bad,

598
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: he didn't falter. He did not falter. He knew he

599
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: had a team that was equal or better than the

600
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: forty nine US. So it's like, askimos have sixty words

601
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: for snow. Jimmy had sixty hand claps me all sorts

602
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: of things. Yeah that we need, we need Shannon. So

603
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: that next the next possession, San Francisco had Leon and

604
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of you remember of it. Uh,

605
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: it ended with a Ken Norton interception. Yeah, she almost

606
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: got to him on that play, didn't you the quarterback?

607
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: Of course, you had a hand on him, so you

608
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: had pressure. Who are you lined up against? Which offense

609
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: do you remember? I'm sure it was Guy McIntire. Guy McIntire, Yeah,

610
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: because it was a year too, right, because you played

611
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: over the left guard right, that was guy because it

612
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: was me. Guy round him and Dan? You're going to

613
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl every year. We already have knew it.

614
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: There are you two guys? Keep up with forty nine

615
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: ers from those days. Now, every chance I get, I'll

616
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: talk to one. I'll see when I I talked the

617
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: guy more than any of them. Guy mack in tie,

618
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: how about pronounces that guy and I. We finally kind

619
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: of got to a point where we can look at

620
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: each of them and shake hands. Ye took a while,

621
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: battle man. Did you figure your pressure caused that interception?

622
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, yeah, now you do. I watched

623
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: I watched the highlight earlier and Leon had a hand

624
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: on him and he forced Steve to come up right

625
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: into the face of Jimmy Jones and so that kind

626
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: of maybe blocked his view a little bit, and Norton

627
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: stepped right in front. So Jimmy Jonal had to be

628
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 1: the recipient of Moldo plays. So if do you guys

629
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: remember this, So you get the ball back right, and

630
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy wants to go win the game. He didn't want

631
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: to sit on the lead. And you got a fourth

632
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: and one at the San Francisco seven, And remember he

633
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: didn't kicked the field goal. Yeah, but that surprised you

634
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: that he went for it fourth and one you didn't

635
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: get it. I know, I remember that. Remember Jimmy the

636
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: riverboat gambler, if every decision he made was always right right,

637
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Speaker 1: and that one you're sitting there going, oh, I don't

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Speaker 1: know that surprised you. No, not, Jimmy. Jimmy, you have

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Speaker 1: a good feel for things. And we just missed on

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642
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Speaker 1: went for it on fourth and goal with him it

643
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Speaker 1: and got the touchdown. Jimmy just believed that if you

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Speaker 1: worked on it and you've been there before and you've

645
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: done that, yeah, yeah, and if he got that feel,

646
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Speaker 1: you know. I remember one time we went to England

647
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: and jumping off the hill yea, And I told us

648
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: before we went to England and and we have I

649
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: think we lost to Detroit and whatever, and Jimmy told

650
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: him we better be ready because we have been messing

651
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Speaker 1: around the whole week. See yalluddy and Joy, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: we get back to data, is we FINNI go to work,

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Speaker 1: We finn get rid of it for a season and

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Speaker 1: uh but the next morning, come to find out him

655
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Speaker 1: and all the coaches in the state up and been

656
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: gambling all night and Jimmy came in there buying drinks.

657
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: You went at the party. It was I'm glad you

658
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: Why Jim's you came in and buying all these drinks. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but enjoy because I'm gonna We had a blast up

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Speaker 1: in at It was that the ten ten game, I

661
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: think it was. Yeah, but Detroit blessed it hard. Well.

662
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: We went up and remember going back to training camp

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Speaker 1: and uh, oh team having the cover of puns. Yeah

664
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Speaker 1: cover pun and it was like fifteen and the puns

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Speaker 1: he did. So he gambles on that you don't get

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Speaker 1: member of Cowboys Nation back to hang in with the

716
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Speaker 1: boys second and goal. Dallas at the three tight end

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00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,520
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718
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: handoff Johnston. The full back up the middle, breaks the

719
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: goal line and scores. But there's a flag. There should

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Speaker 1: be offside and a touchdown. Johnson with a little fullback

721
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: play up the middle, and it looks like it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be offside and a touchdown. I think a forty Niners

723
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: quite on the play. I think they sound like they

724
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: heard a whistle offside defense Halis decline Footstown. I was

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Speaker 1: hoping Moose would Beyonce. He could see if that was

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00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: his recollection that they quit on the I watched the

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Speaker 1: highlight and the tight end who was telling something eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: He didn't even move. He just stood up and the

729
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: left side two and a was laid out of the break.

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00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: You kind of made the move, but the safety shot

731
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: a stop. Brother, they stopped. Yeah, there was the infamous

732
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: Derek Tannell, Derek Tonnelle. He's just stood there and the

733
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: defensive line kind of stood up. Safety came flying through,

734
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: missed Johnston, and then he made strange play with y'all

735
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm going in dn't. Didn't Derek Tennell catch Did he

736
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: catch a touchdown pass in the Super Bowl? He did something.

737
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: It was either that year or the neck. I don't

738
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: even know if he was there two years. I just

739
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: remember him doing something and everybody's looking Derek Tonnelle seriously.

740
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to recap kind of the scoring so far.

741
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: Um again. They had a sixty three yard bomb to

742
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: Rice on the third play of the game. They got

743
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: called back because of penalty. Cowboys have mentioned, went four

744
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: and out and Saxon punts it and Dixon Edwards lays

745
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: a huge hit on their turn man ball bounces right

746
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 1: back to Darryl that results in an Elliott twenty yard

747
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: yard field gold put the Cowboys up three nothing, but

748
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: San Francisco came right back. They scored on a one

749
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: yard sneak from Young that made it seven to three.

750
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers Vota nine Ers then missed a field goal.

751
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: They had a chance to take a bigger lead and

752
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: that led to Cowboys still couldn't do much on offense,

753
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: but then Waters fumbled on a hit from Larry Brown.

754
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: Kevin Smith recovered that set up Dallas at the thirty

755
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: nine yard line that eventually led to Emmett Smith's four

756
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: yard touchdown run. Cowboys had their first lead ten sevendown.

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00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: You do have Emmett stunts soon? H I hear it? Yeah?

758
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: Well all right, First and goal at the four I formation,

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00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: tight end Tonnell motion light and eight mint handoff Smith

760
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: coming left. Johnston got the block and Smith will easily

761
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: stroll in touchdown Cowboys and five whole five played in

762
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: the half and Carol Johnston's block did it again. There

763
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: was Bill Romanowski that he took down the linebacker. Johnston

764
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: just po see takes him down and then it's just

765
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: an easy little stroll for Emmitt Smith for the go

766
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: ahead score. For a great block by Darryl Johnson. Wow.

767
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: I remember going into that game, the talk was how

768
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: do you control Ricky Waters? And I remember I guess

769
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: it was afterwards. The idea was hit him in the

770
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: mouth early a couple of times and he'll put the

771
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: ball on the ground. And he did, yes to get

772
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 1: the game planning for us. So we h we approached

773
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: Ricky Waters like he was a front runner, you know,

774
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: That's that's what we said. Every front runner said, real dispect. Yeah,

775
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: stupid football things were going well. Yeah, if he played well, yes,

776
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: but if you hit him early, got him stopped early,

777
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: he would get frustrated and throw the ball down and

778
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: curse out the offensive quarterback off. So you know, we

779
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: know that the key to the running game was to

780
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: stop him early, hit him hard early, and uh you know,

781
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: just take it to him. And that did happen. Yes, yeah,

782
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: I think Thomas Everett put his helmet right into the

783
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: ball and that was Tomasa. Thomas Everest was one humondous muscle.

784
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: He had. He had these things on his shoulder, traps,

785
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: don't traps. I know I don't have him, and I

786
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: didn't see a lot of people that had him. It

787
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: was like he put a balloon underneath the traps. Traps.

788
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: He was just one huge muscle. She said. But then

789
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: you had closing out the second or the first half,

790
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: the second quarter um. San Francisco hits a twenty eight

791
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: yard field world with one twenty four left, and then

792
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: with eight seconds left, Elliott missed one. So it's ten

793
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: ten going in the half and the forty nine ers

794
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: seemed to have all the momentum. What was kind of

795
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: the mood there at halftime? You remember that we just

796
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: came in and he Yeah. The mood at the halftime

797
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: was coach I remember coach Coach Johnson just said, hey,

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00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: we're in this thing were you know, like that's saying

799
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: clap that same intensity, and the locker room was, you know,

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00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: pumped up. You know it's ten ten. We used to

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00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: the grass, Now we used to the surface. We're gonna

802
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: go back out and get out to him. So it

803
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: felt good. The thing that was so unique was when

804
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: we were in tight games like that, Jimmy did not

805
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: waste time with useless speeches. He got us with our

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00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: coordinators as quick as possible and just in case they

807
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: had some minor jestsment. You can't make no wholesaler jetment,

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00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: but some minor jestsment nor of come in. You know,

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00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: after he talks to his assistance is, hey, this is

810
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. He always had one or two

811
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: little wrinkles that we're gonna do a little bit different

812
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: to help help us with blocking, because that's what it

813
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: was always about with him. First help us with the

814
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: blocking because he knew his stars was gonna shine. So

815
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: we got that done, then we'll get ready to gather

816
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: up to go back out and like I said, Jimmy

817
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: will be there with either you know, with the game

818
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: phase with light red or he got the game dark model.

819
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: Read each one of them men a little different depending

820
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: on who you were as a player looking at it.

821
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: And uh, he's just like he's the honest, like we

822
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 1: know the service. We in this. Let's go get Let's

823
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: go get this game, Okay, Kurt. Without telling him, this

824
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: is what they had up their sleeve. W North had

825
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: up his sleeve right after halftime, wing right eightmon back

826
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: to throw SATs looks deep ball right side, A man

827
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: is there, Hard Bark hits up in the air and

828
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: it's caught at the seventy yard line, one on one

829
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: with Eric Davis. Oh year long, he's thrown that pass

830
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: and Harper hasn't caught it until today. Wow, this is

831
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: just a great catch because that ball is actually under

832
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: thrown a little bit and Harper just out battles Eric

833
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 1: Davis for the ball, reach his back over Eric Davis

834
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: to pull that thing away. It's just a tremendous play

835
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: by Alvin Harper. That was that long ball right that

836
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: was the two thirty eight yard pad was the one

837
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: that was under thrown him. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah,

838
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: he gets all the credit for that slam, but that

839
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: was actually the more highlight real cat probably absolutely, he

840
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: didn't like that for Eric James good people too. Yeah.

841
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: The thing let me say this, like like Leon say,

842
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 1: he don't want to slam the Rick because we over

843
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: time but eventually became friends. But all of these guys,

844
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: we would see him at the Pro Bowl, we would

845
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: talk like Eric Dins every time. I said, you know,

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00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: Tony Tobin out of all the people, him and te

847
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: pretty good. I mean he ended up playing them freak

848
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: times in a row in the NFC time do right,

849
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: And so you get to know these guys, and the

850
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: thing about it, you'd have never thought that you would,

851
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: because boy, we did not like them. We didn't play

852
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: no games. We did not like them, No, not at all.

853
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: You know, in those in those years, who was better

854
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers of the Bills because people always

855
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: said those championship games were basically the real Super Bowl.

856
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: For me, it was the same because if you go

857
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: across their defensive line, you know, it was the same

858
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: for me because the Bills had a gangster defen's line

859
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: and they had a game. So it was the same

860
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: for me. It was it was terror. Bro I see

861
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: this is this is what people don't understand and is

862
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: I was fortunate me and Mark two and they was

863
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: very very fortunately. We had Leon Lett and we had

864
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: Charles Haley on our side every day in practice. Now

865
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: you couldn't get Charles and doing the run period to

866
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: give a great effort. But anything it sends it of

867
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: a pass rush, you were in trouble. So we got

868
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: great looks every day. You know, we got great looks

869
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: every day. And there was a quote Emmett said that

870
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: he on the sideline had come to you and said,

871
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:42,919
Speaker 1: I guess earlier in the game, said I need room

872
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: to run, and he said that You said it'll open

873
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: up as it went on. You talked about the touchdown

874
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: he caught for that short run that was an end

875
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: of a fourteen play, nine minute drive and went to

876
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 1: seventy nine yards. Did you start to start to see

877
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: it kind of open up? But because because or you know,

878
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: Tony Wise would keep us patient. Huss and Hat would

879
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: keep us patient, you know, because any offensive line when

880
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: worth is salt. When everything failed, the first name, we

881
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: had to run the ball, run the ball man, run

882
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: the ball. But it's the other way around beet. When

883
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 1: you got a back like im It, who can swing

884
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: out of that backfield, who can come up the middle

885
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: and have an option, those things right there started to

886
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: open up and start to make things happen. So as

887
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: we were passing that ball, things started to loosen up.

888
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: We started to get three yards four yards. At first,

889
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: they would they would put there dropping a ham on

890
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: It's like our guys were dropping the ham on them.

891
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: And every drive will had to be at least five

892
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: or six seven plays. If you look on the every drive,

893
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: one though one shot left, you know, let's you know,

894
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: will happen to night, you know. But other than that,

895
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: everything was a drive and everything was a battle. Uh,

896
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I was just for you guys went on on the

897
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: defensive side. By that third fourth quarter, they they came

898
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: down and scored. Mickey said, it made it twenty four

899
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: twenty was it? You're getting worried? Were you're still in

900
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean, were you're still feeling good at that point? Well,

901
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: going back to what Nate said, first of all, you know,

902
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: the practices were so physical and and having an offensive

903
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: line like we had. In the offense like we had,

904
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: of course we would have the number one defense too,

905
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: because the offense, you know, kept kept the ball most

906
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: of the no Pro bowlers. That had to be pretty yeah,

907
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: no Pro bowlers. Yeah, we were. We were kind of

908
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: upset about that and uh, just going into the playoffs though,

909
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: the momentum of our defense was, you know, we were physical,

910
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: We're going to stop to run and uh, you know

911
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: what we wanted to do was go out, make two

912
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 1: stops and be up fourteen zero. Now we're passed rushing.

913
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: That's kind of how it was most of the seasons. So, um,

914
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: just our mindset was to go out and like I said,

915
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: stop the run. But if you compare forty nine ers

916
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: defense with Buffalo's defense, forty nine is with that West

917
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: Coast defense, I mean offense, I'm sorry. West Coast offense

918
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: was quick, quick routs and quick passing, and uh, Buffalo

919
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 1: was more of a like no huddle what you see

920
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: now really but you know most of the tea which

921
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: was more difficult for you, I think Buffalo, Yeah, because

922
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: because Buffalo brought their quarterback great and Jim Kelly came

923
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 1: from the USFVL ye and that's what we did. Over

924
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: the USFL. We stayed closer to the college game than

925
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: we did the pro game. When we saw a team

926
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: that ran, ran, ran, like the burmaham Stag, we were like, God,

927
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: we got to play a running team this week, you know.

928
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: So we stayed and that's what they incorporated when Jim

929
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: got there with the Buffalo. So but of course our

930
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: practices was simulating them, and so they were ready. You know,

931
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: we kept that thing going. That's when some of us

932
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: back starters had to be a part of that practice,

933
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: keeping an up tempo. So we're scoring up, so we

934
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,320
Speaker 1: got Now it's twenty four twenty. It's it's late in

935
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: the fourth or midway through the fourth quarter, and that's

936
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: when Mickey got a great story what happens that first

937
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: and ten? Just how boys get the ball at the

938
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: their own twenty one yard line. And I was wondering,

939
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: before we get to it, what you guys were thinking

940
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: at that point. It's twenty four twenty, Leon when when

941
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: when they go out on the field, are you watching?

942
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: Are you guys over there, because the first play is

943
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: the huge play of the game. Did you see it

944
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: or were you guys sitting there huddling up figuring out

945
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: what you were gonna do. No, the sideline was all

946
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: in it. I think we were You were watching, yes, brother,

947
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: so did you know what was about to happen? Nah?

948
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: But let me say this right here, more to it.

949
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: The only way we would sit down is that if

950
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: we had a constable league, and normally that one happened

951
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 1: to the second half. We watched each other. We knew

952
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: what each other did, We knew what our defense was doing.

953
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: We would walk by each other and they would literally

954
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: be We could never satisfy the cussing. The eye called

955
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: him this all type of names because we could never

956
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: do enough, because they wanted to get back out there

957
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: and make some things happen. Okay, so you go into

958
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: the huddle. You're at your own twenty one. There's still

959
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: enough time left for them to come back and score.

960
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: Troy say anything any anything you remember from the huddle? Nah?

961
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: Not he He just say give me some time, okay.

962
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: So we knew he was ready to go, and we

963
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: knew we had to rest, so we had to you know,

964
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: run game was okay, but we knew it was his time.

965
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: We said, father, that needs you to give me some time.

966
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: And then Michael look at us and he once said,

967
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: as nice at Troy. And then and then Michael tells

968
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: the story that when they called the play, he was

969
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: originally supposed to mean the wide receiver to the left,

970
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: and Alvin Harper was supposed to mean the right. And

971
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: Michael says, they're not gonna They're gonna gonna let us

972
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 1: throw it over there. I'm gonna go to the other

973
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: side of the field, and they put Harper to the left.

974
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: And do you want to just play either play or

975
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: do you want to talk? Yeah, this is what happened.

976
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: After twenty first down, eight minutes, gonna throw deep flap

977
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: caught thirty five, Harper's breaking away, Harper's got midfield, Harper's

978
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: got the thirty, Harper's got the twenty, Harper's got the

979
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: ten guys nine before he's run down at a bounce

980
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: at the nine. WHOA, I tell you, man, the game

981
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: did you see it? Nah? Now, the game was tight. Uh.

982
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: What I saw was when I looked, because I was

983
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: on the left side, I saw him when he caught it.

984
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, you know, because I'm fighting, I'm fighting. I'm

985
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: fighting for my life. You know, I'm tired, fight for

986
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: my life. So when I looked out there, because it's

987
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: kind of like a silence, and then all of a sudden,

988
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: they roared, they crowded like it didn't sound like he

989
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: was saying, oh, like it was for the for the Minnesota,

990
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: that's fair. We It was like they was screaming, if

991
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: you go back into play that over again, Okay, here

992
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: we go, twenty first eight minutes, gonna throll, deep flap, caught,

993
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: thirty five, Harper's breaking away, Harper's got mid fail, Harper's

994
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: got the thirty, Harper's got the twenty. Yeah at the nine. Wow,

995
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: it was like on the sidelines for you. Oh, we

996
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: were excited. Yeah, we were crunk. Yeah, I remember, I remember,

997
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: and I get chills listening to it now. So I'm

998
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: working right, and I was like one of the only

999
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: idiots out there that picked them to win, Like I

1000
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: thought they it was time, and I thought they were

1001
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: better than San Francisco. And so I'm sitting there, I'm going, Okay,

1002
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be wrong and everybody's gonna make fun of me.

1003
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: And when they hit that play, I swear I got

1004
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: chills just watching it, going, oh my god, They're gonna

1005
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: win this thing. Yeah. And then I don't have it

1006
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: separated out because I had it in the open in

1007
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: the show opened, but that Kelvin Martin touchdown after that

1008
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: play sealed it, and Dale Hansen mentions in the call

1009
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: that the assistant coaches started shaking hands on the sideline,

1010
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. Well, here was still like three

1011
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: minutes left. Well, and it wasn't the next play. It

1012
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: took a while to get there, right. It ended up

1013
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 1: being a was it a third? It was a third

1014
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: and go. Yeah, you got to the two or three

1015
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: and then got stopped. And now it's like, Okay, what's

1016
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: he gonna do, because if you get stopped here, you're

1017
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: gonna kick the field goal and make it a seven

1018
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: point game, or Jimmy gonna gamble again inside the ten,

1019
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: go for a touchdown. You win the game with him,

1020
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: he'd have played about the numbers. Field goal was actually

1021
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: the next point was actually blocked, but that was it.

1022
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: You guys had won it thirty twenty. How were the

1023
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: last second since they ticked off for you? We knew

1024
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: we had it, man, just that passed Kelvin Martin. Yeah,

1025
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: he came up bag the whole season and key plays, right,

1026
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: not great numbers with a big play at the end

1027
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: of the game, returned for touchdown, versus the Eagles. That

1028
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: was the year before. Really, it takes Jimmy to tell

1029
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: you he loved guys that live for the moment and

1030
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: a lot of times a lot of teams when the

1031
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: cap came Martin, but Jimmy knew in the moment you

1032
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: could depend on them. Philadelphia Hunt returned. Come on, he

1033
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: turned it around for us. Washington out there in Texas, say,

1034
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: you'll be going down on the drive. We were behind

1035
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we needed a big third down.

1036
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Marnah has got his back broke, but Troy put

1037
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: it on the dime. Kevin Martin came up with it.

1038
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: We won the game. So what was the locker room like?

1039
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember? Hang on out about highlight and

1040
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: you guys probably don't remember. I mean the players remember it.

1041
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: But this was on the next series, thirty to twenty Cowboys,

1042
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: two eleven left in the game, Young up under center

1043
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: with two uh seven, young straight dropped with two or

1044
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: four frozen d met intercepted by James Washington to the

1045
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: thirty to the forty. Number one defend has cut him

1046
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: off at the past again. This dude always will find

1047
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: himself in a big play. Moment, but umber Atlanta game

1048
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Yeah, super Bowl should have been should have

1049
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: been the MVP. I was gonna see it because MT

1050
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: may be listening. That's all right. He'd make a big play,

1051
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: big hit, I'll big hit. I mean he was all

1052
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: And this is the thing that people don't know about

1053
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: James Washington. He is the furtherest thing away from a thug. Yeah,

1054
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: it's due graduated from UCLA's due, social athletic director. I

1055
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: think he's been over human reason, the hustler, barn, but

1056
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: a thud. Noel was his nickname was drive By. And

1057
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,959
Speaker 1: he got to a point there towards the last couple

1058
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 1: of years he wouldn't talk to anybody in the locker

1059
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: room the media, right, and I don't I don't know why,

1060
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: but he'd pull me over and talk to me. And

1061
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know why he shows me, but

1062
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: but I just remember that about him and and and

1063
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: he was good. He knew you're right. It was he

1064
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 1: was so sharp about the game. It was it was

1065
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: not like what everybody thought about. That's why Woodson can

1066
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,959
Speaker 1: get it on the field rookie year. Yeah, because Jimmy thought, Okay,

1067
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: I got this guy, Darren's changing positions. I don't want

1068
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: to put too much on his plate. Right, And then

1069
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: like a year later, after he started and did everything, Darren,

1070
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: Jimmy said, my biggest mistake coaching, what's that he goes,

1071
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: should have put Woodson on the field from the very

1072
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: beg He kept him and Uh it was a rookie

1073
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: that year, and figured, oh, this was the NFL, right,

1074
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: you probably, Hey, come to the team and I go

1075
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. We'd have seven guys substitute you

1076
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: know them, you know, like seven guys coming in, seven

1077
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: guys coming off the film. So offenses were like, man, yeah,

1078
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: depth on that team. Yeah we did. We had it, man,

1079
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: we we we we we we had it. And and

1080
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: it won. No relaxing you know back then it won.

1081
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: No Sarah cap So churning your roster moving it around.

1082
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: That one. He wasn't gonna be no issues, especially with

1083
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: a coach that UH believed in youth. Jimmy believed in youth,

1084
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: and he I remember when he took Ike out of

1085
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: the out of the game when I got beat on

1086
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: on a deep ball, and he never got his job

1087
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: back because he told UH coach Campbell put pump in

1088
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: there and he bed not come out right. And that

1089
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: basically the next year or in ninety two, and the

1090
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: same thing with Eric. Yeah, told Tony he's whatever you

1091
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: gotta do. I don't care. I don't care if you

1092
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: hurt Nate's feelings or not. I went over there, politic Kevin,

1093
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, and Leon you're right here. Here's the backups

1094
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,439
Speaker 1: on the defensive line in that game. It's jim Jeff Coat,

1095
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: leon Lett, Chad Hennings and Jimmy Jones. I mean those

1096
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: are the next four the starters on a lot of

1097
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: team right, amazing Jimmy winning got Jimmy Jones whin he

1098
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: got paid by the New England patient unheard of contract.

1099
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: He was side off of that coup. He's got that heat.

1100
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't know how to ranch out. Yeah, of course

1101
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: Connor ever somewhere south, Yeah, who wasn't that Jimmy Jones

1102
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: played behind at Miami. He started, he started, and when

1103
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: come to practice and Russell around and took his job

1104
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 1: and he never got it back. I thought that was

1105
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: even another guy too, It was Russ I think. Okay,

1106
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: he played with Corte, but he and half Courtell's job. Okay,

1107
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: So the end of the game is a lot of

1108
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: people may not realize that that was when Jimmy said

1109
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: his favorite words, how about them cowboys? And what was

1110
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: it the story behind? Was there some kind of meaning

1111
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: behind that, because because because of what Mix said at

1112
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show, everybody had us a year away.

1113
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 1: And I remember riding the work Chris Berman was having

1114
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: a round table on ESPN. It was on the radio,

1115
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 1: and I mean everybody. I mean he had guys and

1116
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: can't see everybody. He had nothing to do with the game,

1117
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: but they had every reporter that was supposed to be

1118
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: somebody and to a man, their year away, their year away.

1119
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: So once one guy said that it sounded good, and

1120
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: that's what they ran with something. Ye have to be

1121
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: somebody who thinks a little bit different. Yeah, right, that's right.

1122
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: And so I don't know how you guys want to

1123
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: go about it, but it was in the locker room.

1124
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: He said it also at the end his press conference,

1125
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: that little jammed room where no one could almost see

1126
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: him in there. It was so crowded afterwards, but it

1127
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: was it was absolutely astounding. You guys trudged off the

1128
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: field through all that water and mud and and and

1129
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 1: you know what. I think the people at Candlestick were

1130
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: just stunned. Yeah, because but see this is what I

1131
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: always remember, and I and I and it confirmed. They

1132
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: never stopped cheering into Jadab. Yeah, they never stopped believing

1133
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: into that interception. They go back. Can you go back

1134
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: and play that right? Quickly? Listen to the crowd. They

1135
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: downed by teen thirty to twenty Cowboys. They engage roughed

1136
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: in the game, Young up under center with two h

1137
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 1: seven Young straight dropped with two h four throws at

1138
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: Dad Mental intercepted by James Washing into the thirty to

1139
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: the forty. It must there was it was football has

1140
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: cut them off at the pass again. I don't know

1141
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: who they had saying the national anthem? X was the

1142
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: man somebody I can't remember. I mean, what I'm trying

1143
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: to say is even the person that sung the national

1144
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: anthem was exciting, right, And the whole thing is That's

1145
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that, That's what I'm saying. It wasn't

1146
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: believe it was almost like a college I didn't pull it.

1147
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: But during the coin flip on an our radio broadcast,

1148
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: the whoever the referee was, Jerry Mark Bright. He turned

1149
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: Staubach was the honorary guy on the field and he's like, okay,

1150
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: call it in the air. Oh hi, Roger, Okay call

1151
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: it in the air. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't nothing about

1152
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: a forty nine is cowboy game. That wasn't good when

1153
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: that It was just you know the other thing I remember,

1154
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: and it was it was it was really unique from

1155
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: a media standpoint, So they needed a auxiliary press box.

1156
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: There wasn't enough room for everybody. So behind so we're

1157
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: looking this way the right end zone, like ten yards

1158
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: behind the end zone, they put a row of tables

1159
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 1: with chairs and that's where they put the TV and

1160
01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: radio reporters out in that weather. That was their press

1161
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: box way back there in all that mess. But yeah,

1162
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: the area of the whole thing was just absolutely it was.

1163
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: It was chilling, It really was. We walked off that

1164
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: field and I don't know how that was. He probably

1165
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 1: in better shape than me. Sometimes was tired, man. And

1166
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: when when we got on that plane, I mean, you know,

1167
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 1: you drank your beers, but it was it was, it was.

1168
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: It wasn't excited, you know, hey, let's get into mine, right,

1169
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: It was like, wow, just wip you something. What was

1170
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: the city, like when you got back, because I read

1171
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: there's like three thousand fans at the airport waiting for you.

1172
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: I did it just hYP Yeah, yeah, it was just hyped.

1173
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: And uh at the charter site. Yeah. But you know

1174
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: the thing about it, though, you apparently left Jimmy on

1175
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: the bus. He didn't. He didn't catch the bus to

1176
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: the charter. He had to take a taxi or something.

1177
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy said, time to go, probably Jimmy. Uh, but you

1178
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: know what, we came back in and Monday to Monday,

1179
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: it's like we ain't played a game. Jimmy, Un jim

1180
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,919
Speaker 1: and unmoved. All he was giving us the game plan

1181
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: or what was gonna have and all we was doing

1182
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: rubbing eyed chilcol back then woman sus Jones just get

1183
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: way him teas like cotton kid, and you know you

1184
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: you you asked where that? How about them cowboys? Where

1185
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: it came from? So when they had the twenty fifth

1186
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: anniversary deal in February, Jerry was asked about it and

1187
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: he said, oh I heard that before, and everybody kind

1188
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: of looked up. He goes, yeah, he goes, he used

1189
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: to say that all the time in Oklahoma. How about

1190
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,400
Speaker 1: these cowboys so, but anyway, that was kind of the

1191
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: signature moment of the whole Yeah, the whole day the game,

1192
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: and I think Douglas might have h his little speech

1193
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: that he gave before he said it. No, I don't

1194
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: don't you didn't find it. Ah, here's okay. I have

1195
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: I have one question for the three of you who

1196
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: were at the game, I mean two played. Mickey was

1197
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: up there watching, uh like going order Mickey, then Leon

1198
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: than then Nate. When somebody mentions that game, what's the

1199
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: first thing you think about? Always? Yeah, that that NFC

1200
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: Championship game, your first NFC Championship game. What's your what's

1201
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: your first thought when anybody mentions it? Mickey probably boy first,

1202
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot that comes yea in um. Everybody probably

1203
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: remembers the Harper play. I remembered how good Troy Aikman was,

1204
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: and when I looked up the stats, he ended up

1205
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: twenty four of thirty four for three hundred and twenty

1206
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: two yards. Now, he was sacked Nate four times, but

1207
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: he two touchdown passes. He's about to come across and

1208
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 1: hit the biggest passes of the game. I thought that

1209
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: was his arrival, because remember he didn't start a playoff

1210
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: game until ninety two. That was his first year to

1211
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: kind of go through it. He played what a half

1212
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: in Detroit when you got beat ninety one, the game

1213
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: was over by time they put him in. So to me,

1214
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: it was the arrival of Troy Aikman and just how

1215
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: darn good he was. Okay, Leon. For me, I think

1216
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: it was just the physicality of the game. It was

1217
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: a physical game and uh, you know the field of mud,

1218
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,600
Speaker 1: it was just a good old football game that you know,

1219
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: the weather was. To me, it was like it was

1220
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 1: perfect as far as the temperature and the game itself,

1221
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: the players, the intensity that we had on the sideline

1222
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: throughout the game. So I can just just say the

1223
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: physicality of the game. Charles, I remember Charles Halley wanted

1224
01:08:55,280 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: to you know, just murder Wallace. Yeah, knock off his

1225
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: little concussion thing. Yeah, ye had the first concussion, Hilman Wallace. Yeah.

1226
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: It was like one of those soft yeah yeah, back

1227
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: and forth cursing each other out the whole game and

1228
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: back in time. So that to me, it was just physical,

1229
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: could hard those football game. And that's the same thing,

1230
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: like I said, when when you got on that plane,

1231
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: all you could realize. Man. And I hate to say

1232
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: this because I don't want to minimize the Super Bowl,

1233
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: but that game there is just like when you got

1234
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: on the planes, like wow, wow. I mean, Jimmy had

1235
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,799
Speaker 1: a soul locked in and focused, so you didn't realize

1236
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: what you accomplished. You we realized more with the Super

1237
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 1: Bowl what we'll accomplished them beating that That great for

1238
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,720
Speaker 1: the nine of the scene is because you got on there.

1239
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 1: You just you know, we was hyped on the on

1240
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: the plane coming back, but it was like, wow, we

1241
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 1: got him. That was really the changing of the guard

1242
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: from the team of the eighties with the forty nine

1243
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: ers to becoming the team in the nineties the Cowboys. Nate,

1244
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: you had been through the you've been you've been through

1245
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 1: the ugly times, and this is your second year two

1246
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: years and then two years to the playoffs. I mean,

1247
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 1: it seems like two very different perspectives of where you

1248
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: were Like this is expected, We're the Cowboys, and you're like, oh,

1249
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: I've been there, man, I know what it was like,

1250
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: I thought I was a genius to the bad luck

1251
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: I came in any side of Louis. I'm like, wow,

1252
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 1: it's just I'm telling you we we earned our Super

1253
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: Bowls because when I look back at game that, every

1254
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: super Bowl we played, I promise you the three I

1255
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: played in you would not find anybody and that's Cluton

1256
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 1: tom Brady that played against war hall of famers than

1257
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: this Cowboys team did. We played against unlimited amount of

1258
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers, all pros and Hall of famers. Go back

1259
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 1: and check the ballistics. I'm telling you we from playing

1260
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,839
Speaker 1: Green Bay, you got Brett Fobb and that wide receivers,

1261
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 1: what Sterling Sharp, You got Reggie White who only not

1262
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: play for them left Philadelphia went there, you know, just

1263
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: great player at the great player that could impact the game.

1264
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 1: And we had to play them to get the way

1265
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 1: we needed to go. You went through the Eagles defense

1266
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 1: that year, went through Lawrence Taylor went through. Uh, what's

1267
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: the other guy played the other other side of him? Thanks.

1268
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: You know, we we played against some some and everybody

1269
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: partly can bowlst that, but not how nineties Cowboys. We

1270
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: was either catching the end of the grade eighties players

1271
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: catching the beginning of the great nineties players, and uh,

1272
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 1: it was just awesome. It was. It was just awesome. Well,

1273
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: the two before that Super Bowl, the Giants and Washington

1274
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,880
Speaker 1: had won the previous two super Bowls. Then you get

1275
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl and it's the Bills who'd been

1276
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: in those previous two super Bowls at Washington and the Giants,

1277
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: and that's what everybody was banking on that day. Too soon, Yeah,

1278
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 1: year away, they had to experience that they was gonna

1279
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: get us. Yeah. And what I remember more than anything

1280
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: is we had to go through the Giants each year. Now,

1281
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: each year we had to go through the Giants to

1282
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: make the impact that we made. The only to turn

1283
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: around and face it equally is good for the nine

1284
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: US team. Now, one year we called a breaking got

1285
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: Green Bay. That was because we don't think we wanted

1286
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,560
Speaker 1: on more than for the nine that they were ready for.

1287
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: That was Switzer's year. Yeah, all right, I think we've

1288
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:40,800
Speaker 1: we've gone way over a lot of time. Do you

1289
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 1: have anything else make? Oh? I think you're done good.

1290
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: And you know what, maybe in two weeks we need

1291
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: to do it again. Let's go through that super Bowl. Right,

1292
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,679
Speaker 1: he's probably watching this mad. It couldn't be a part

1293
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: of it, right, Yeah, Leon, I sure appreciate we kept

1294
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: you longer than wedn't expected. I sure appreciate you taking

1295
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: Leon will come back. He's got a fun show he

1296
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: can come. Yeah, this is and he's got a little

1297
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: bit to talk about in that super Bowl. Yeah, this

1298
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 1: is great. It was really great for me. Not so

1299
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: you steal it with a team, right, I mean, I

1300
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: don't want to be talking to a guy and will

1301
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: be in a moment. And by the way, we we

1302
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: did do a Cowboys Legend show yes on the twenty

1303
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 1: fifth anniversary of that Super Bowl, and it included this game,

1304
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: it included the Super Bowl, and it included the twenty

1305
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: fifth reunion that these guys were part of. So you

1306
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: can go to the website, I think at some point

1307
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: and it will be on there and you can check

1308
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: out all these guys memories of that entire season. Uh.

1309
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: And the rise in ninety one. I thought that was

1310
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: part of the story because seven and nine, one and

1311
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: fifteen and then all of a sudden and I think

1312
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: I lost it all of that. I had to eat

1313
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: all of that the pounds. All right, Well, I think

1314
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: that's it. Dallas thirty, San Francisco twenty nineteen and drive

1315
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: by damp. All right, we'll be back on Thanks for

1316
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: thanks for an urch idea. By the way, this is awesome.

1317
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: We'll show leader alright, Shannon will be back the Beard down.

1318
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Speaker 1: We will be back on Monday at one o'clock or

1319
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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock. Eleven o'clock on Monday till then. Thank you

1320
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Speaker 1: for spending the time with us again. Thank you Leon. Thanks,

1321
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Speaker 1: We are hanging with the boys. This has been a

1322
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Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Football Clock.