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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast doesn't have a Game of

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Speaker 1: Thrones fantasy t Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler

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Speaker 1: and the Man with all the Muscles Nick Show. Hey, Greg, alright,

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Speaker 1: a little little weird show muscles, A little weird show here.

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't think i've he has large muscles, Greg,

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Speaker 1: but every human being has muscles inside the body. You

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Speaker 1: you even have muscles. I don't have muscles. And for

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Speaker 1: all the listeners who are covering their ears hearing my

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Speaker 1: nasally voice to start the show where without Dan Hansas,

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Speaker 1: he's off visiting his in laws in Texas. And it's

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Speaker 1: been a long time since I've had to host. I

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Speaker 1: went through a laundry list of people to see if

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Speaker 1: we get them in here. Matt Money Smith, you'd be

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Speaker 1: a great host. No, damnack uh not available today. Colleen

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Speaker 1: Wolf is off on one of her new television programs

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Speaker 1: preparing for that. So so this is it. People are

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Speaker 1: enjoying their Fridays. What a novel idea. We're gonna enjoy

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Speaker 1: it too, because this isn't just any show you're here for,

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Speaker 1: Nick Schuck, did you know that we've got other people

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Speaker 1: joining us? And that's because it's the fifth annual I

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Speaker 1: believe Fantasy Extravaganza. Every time I hear that, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I should be in a town square and someone's

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Speaker 1: coming out with a big scroll to read a message

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Speaker 1: from the king. Well that that's appropriate, because we've got

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Speaker 1: the King of NFL Fantasy in the podcast studio, maybe

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Speaker 1: for the first time. Maybe I think Michael Fabriano has

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Speaker 1: been here before, but maybe just once and it was

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Speaker 1: years ago, and he's coming back. We're also gonna have

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Speaker 1: Alex Gelhar from our Fantasy Live show, and uh, most importantly,

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Speaker 1: we have you, Mark Ceslo. You were just giddy with

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Speaker 1: anticipation coming into this program. Him. Well, it's great to

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Speaker 1: have the Fantasy guests on. I don't remember Fabiana being

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Speaker 1: long time ago. I could be wrong. I guess that occurred.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's he'll be on today

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Speaker 1: and he is the unquestioned king of the Fantasy realm

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Speaker 1: inside our building. We also are gonna we're gonna play

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Speaker 1: a fun game with them that we haven't played in

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Speaker 1: a little bit of time, and it was inspired by

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Speaker 1: our friend Chris Westling, who who I was visiting with

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Speaker 1: earlier this week, and he's on the road to recovery.

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Speaker 1: His voices is a little shot. So although he is

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Speaker 1: feeling better and he's he's starting to look forward to

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Speaker 1: coming back to work even more, he's been watching the

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Speaker 1: preseason now and taking notes, his voices is pretty shot

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Speaker 1: right now. That's still recovering, so he can't really join

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Speaker 1: us even to say hello on the phone. But he

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Speaker 1: did want to, you know, tell all the listeners that

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Speaker 1: he appreciates all the love. He's here in spirit. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we'll have him back at some

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Speaker 1: point this season. Absolutely. Well, so we we have a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to. We're gonna do fantasy. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a little bit of news with the season having

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Speaker 1: finally ended Thursday night, and uh, since I have nothing

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Speaker 1: else to really talk about, why don't we uh get

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Speaker 1: it going? What's going on? Erica behind the glass? How's

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Speaker 1: it going, guys, Let's do a little a little bit

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Speaker 1: of news. A B yeah, I see all comes big dog,

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Speaker 1: I got bigger than air. But are you aware of

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Speaker 1: But why I'm not at practice. I'm gonna need seventeen

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Speaker 1: because twenty seven. So that was Levan Bell. What what

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Speaker 1: do you think you compared him to another famous rapper

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Speaker 1: before the show, Mark says, well, not in this actual

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Speaker 1: and it had I thought it had echoes of Little Debbie.

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Speaker 1: I think there's there's too much emphasis placed on the freestyle.

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Speaker 1: Was it a freestyle? Was it No, it's definitely not

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Speaker 1: Uh not exactly the best look. But well, I don't

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Speaker 1: great American cinematic achievements, I would say of the twenty

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Speaker 1: one century, which sport Airbud? Exceld In? Did you like

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Speaker 1: the translation not going well. He says I'm gonna need

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, that was that was very solid translation.

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Speaker 1: It's it rings to me a tad tone deaf for

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Speaker 1: athletes to be rapping about needing seventeen million dollars when

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Speaker 1: like half our countries and like utter turmoial. But you know, whatever,

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Speaker 1: September one, as we tape this, he returned to the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers as expected on Friday, getting ready for Week one.

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Speaker 1: Energy Stadium. A lot of good stories coming out of that,

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, signing DeAndre Hopkins and tight end c J.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Nick shook. Is he worth it? Would you

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Speaker 1: pay a receiver five years eighty one million? What's what's

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Speaker 1: it's totally worth it. What you're seeing is a move

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Speaker 1: our people in place. And yes it's Tom Savage's team

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Speaker 1: So even though it's a little riskier, the fact that

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Speaker 1: top dollar. Don't we think also that this deal won't

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Speaker 1: I I don't see this a prohibitive deal, and I

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Speaker 1: we'll see if that all works out. But they signed Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: they signed Fedorowitz to a deal that was more surprising

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Speaker 1: to me because he really hasn't taken a big leap

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Speaker 1: But let's move on to their division rival in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: where Jim Urcy keeps talking about Andrew Luck, and every

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is going to play Week one. He he

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Speaker 1: put major doubt on that. We know that it's unlikely

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck could play we going because he hasn't practiced.

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Speaker 1: But he also made some comments that were that were

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Speaker 1: Jim Rcy when asked about Andrew Luck. He said, it's

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Speaker 1: a four inch field between your ears. That's where it's at.

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Speaker 1: no idea, no doubt that Andrew Luck, the person that is,

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Speaker 1: he's going to come out of this thing not just

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Speaker 1: question that timetable is more on the football gods, and

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Speaker 1: Andrew's gut feeling, on how he's feeling? What? What? How?

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Speaker 1: How did you interpret that? That's a very strange statement.

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Speaker 1: Right a week ago, someone talked about the six inches

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Speaker 1: have some of your fans we want to see my homes.

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Speaker 1: We want to see the new thing, the new flavor.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Alex Smith is gonna be, you know,

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Speaker 1: pretty consistent. He's you know what you're gonna get from him,

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Speaker 1: and for them, that's probably gonna translate into a competitive

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Speaker 1: season again, which wouldn't really result in any calls from

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Speaker 1: a homes. I think if it stays on script, you're right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that it's logical that my homes

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Speaker 1: comes in and plays. But what if they're down twenty

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Speaker 1: eight nothing against the Patriots, and then they get out

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Speaker 1: of the gate and a rough schedule, they go one

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Speaker 1: and two or one in three. I promise you it

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Speaker 1: won't take five months for society to turn on Alex Smith.

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Speaker 1: You say that, Nick, But they're at Patriots Week one,

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Speaker 1: then their home for the Eagles. Let's just say they

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Speaker 1: have a bad home opener and lose that Eagles game,

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Speaker 1: you know, and then they're owing two. Then we're at Sandy,

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Speaker 1: you know you're at Los Angeles the Chargers. It's like

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Speaker 1: it doesn't take long at any point. If there are

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Speaker 1: two games under five, that's the point it happens. You

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Speaker 1: know they're at Houston early in the season. Pittsburgh, you

447
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Speaker 1: never know. And the point is not that we're saying

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is ready to start, because he clearly has some

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Speaker 1: incredible tools, but he's not in other ways prepared for this.

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Speaker 1: But it's just that that is that logic isn't baked

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Speaker 1: into people's Reaction's got too many, too much like minded fans.

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Speaker 1: Well this room though, we've got two Browns fans thinking

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Speaker 1: Brady Quinn. Meanwhile, I'm asking who couldn't make this throw?

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Speaker 1: And tam Posey over there text me and all caps,

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Speaker 1: what what did you say? Not today? You should say

456
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Speaker 1: he said the goat. He can do a million in

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Speaker 1: your actual voice, Tom Tom Brady, Tom Tom Brady can

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Speaker 1: make that throw? No, nothing, He could never make that throw.

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Speaker 1: That No, that's my point. At no point in his

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Speaker 1: career could he ever make that throw. Not many people

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Speaker 1: ever could. I thought to illustrate this RelA, she can

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Speaker 1: pull the plug on the whole show. So we agree

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Speaker 1: with all right, Yeah, I thought the relationship between Smith

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Speaker 1: and Mahomes was kind of interesting in what Home said

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Speaker 1: last night, saying that Alex is the perfect person for

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Speaker 1: me to learn from, and how he was helping him,

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Speaker 1: you know, read coverages and working on his footwork and

468
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Speaker 1: everything else. I'm curious to see how if the near

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Speaker 1: doomsday scenario that you have set up Mark ends up happening,

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Speaker 1: how does that affect that relationship? Does it sour? Does

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Speaker 1: Alex cut him off? You know what? Well? I mean,

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Speaker 1: Smith has been through this to such an incredible high

473
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Speaker 1: pitched like in another example with Colin, and I don't

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Speaker 1: get the sense that that relationship was as close whereas

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Speaker 1: this feels more like a mentor, and as long as

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Smith both of the right attitude, which just

477
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Speaker 1: seems like they do, I think, and good quarterback rooms

478
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Speaker 1: are able to kind of isolate from all that because

479
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Speaker 1: it's the this is the dynamic with every backup quarterback

480
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Speaker 1: whenever a starter is struggling, Ones that are less set

481
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Speaker 1: much less sexy on field than this. So I just

482
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Speaker 1: think this could be this is one to watch. We've

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Speaker 1: set up for months quickly before we move on one

484
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Speaker 1: other preseason. Final thought I just mentioned Kaepernick was that

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Speaker 1: the two teams that showed the most interesting Kaepernick, the

486
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Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Rave they both still have big quarterback needs.

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Speaker 1: Travon Boykin has not looked like a backup quarterback. I

488
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Speaker 1: know it's I know they don't they need a starting quarterback,

489
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Speaker 1: but he's throwing four interceptions in the preseason. They need

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and and they they seem open to Kaepernick,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not ruling that out. Still, I think people

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Speaker 1: have forgotten. And then the Ravens, the ship has probably sailed,

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Speaker 1: but it shouldn't have because Ryan Mallett was just awful

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Speaker 1: throughout the preseason and Joe Flacco still hasn't. He's still

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Speaker 1: not taken off the publics he will be soon and

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Speaker 1: I guess he's playing Week one, but Ryan Mallett, to me,

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Speaker 1: the fact he was out there for a number of series,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's gonna be on their roster

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Speaker 1: week one. That even if Flacco is starting, that maybe

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Speaker 1: they cut Ryan Mallett and they pick up someone else's release,

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Speaker 1: or they make a low level trade like that. They're

502
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Speaker 1: searching for some way to get better because Mallett just

503
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Speaker 1: was was really poor in the preseason. I thought Seattle

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Speaker 1: was the perfect fit for a guy like Kaepernick because

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Speaker 1: if you look at Jevon Boykin and comparing to Colin Kaepernick,

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Speaker 1: they're really not that far off. And if they wanted

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Speaker 1: to see more out of Boykin before making that decision,

508
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: now they have and it wasn't that. Yeah. I mean

509
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Speaker 1: in that situation, I'm taking Kaepernick, go over him. But

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Speaker 1: Mallett getting cut would be insane because then your next

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Speaker 1: quarterback is Dad Lewis. Well, they probably just cut that.

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Speaker 1: They cut that Lewis. My my thought would be they

513
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Speaker 1: were they would bring in a quarterback either that gets

514
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Speaker 1: released or that we don't see coming, like who knows,

515
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Speaker 1: they bring in Matt Castle from the Titans, you know,

516
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Speaker 1: just something uninspiring, or they bring in Kaepernick because to me,

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Speaker 1: malt has shown he's not a good option. Any other

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Speaker 1: final preseason thoughts before we move on one. If I

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Speaker 1: had to take the over under of eight on games

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Speaker 1: that Nathan Peterman will start for the Bills this year,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the over. Okay, I know this is my

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Speaker 1: beat this whole like rookies will start, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Bills a believe in Tyrod Taylor at this point.

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Speaker 1: I think he's injury prone and they are. Their GM

525
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Speaker 1: gushed over Peterman yesterday and he's looked the part fifth

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Speaker 1: round pick. They did ask McDermott, their coach, about whether

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Speaker 1: Peterman fits the offense better, and his answer was, Tyrod

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Speaker 1: is our our start. Well that's where that's what you

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Speaker 1: have to say as the coach right now, right now.

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Speaker 1: I I like Peterman. I wasn't exactly the biggest fan

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Speaker 1: of him coming out of pit, even though he was

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Speaker 1: good there and he looked really good last night and

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Speaker 1: it's week four. But this this offense is it could

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Speaker 1: be out of complete records that you have a rookie

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00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: started pressing that Lashawn McCoy to meet stuck on that offense,

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Speaker 1: and Tyrod Taylor was a fun player to watch. One

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Speaker 1: final thing was that John Brown got injured, uh in

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Speaker 1: the Bengals game, barely played in the preseason. He's going

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Speaker 1: to be out a couple of weeks. Everyone was really

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00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: excited to see Brown and mixing what they're gonna do

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Speaker 1: to this offense. And but this is what often happens

542
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Speaker 1: is oh, wait, like this guy hasn't played at the

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Speaker 1: NFL level. He missed a lot of practices before training camp.

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Speaker 1: He's been hurt throughout training camp and they'll have mixing,

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Speaker 1: but they won't. It really sounds like John Brown is

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Speaker 1: not going to be a factor for a while. Finally,

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Speaker 1: we've got a little bit of minor breaking news here

548
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: while we were up here, Chris Johnson released by the years.

549
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of releases coming up. That's

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00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: not a screaming headline. He did not look good in

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Speaker 1: the preseason. It's not a surprise, despite the fact that

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Speaker 1: arians couldn't be more loyal to certain players that probably

553
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on the Yeah, I I just wanted to

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00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: give a shout out because that that might be the

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00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: end of the run, uh for Chris Johnson. Certainly peaked

556
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: early in his career and maybe he'll get signed elsewhere. Um.

557
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Speaker 1: But a fun player to watch over the last But

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Speaker 1: it's been nine seasons. I believe c J two K.

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Speaker 1: I always remember his time at tennis. Returned from a

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Speaker 1: gunshot wound. How many can claim that. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: his first six years of his career. Looking at it now,

562
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: he went over yards from scrimmage. That's that's pretty good,

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Speaker 1: Like that's the start of a Hall of Fame type

564
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Speaker 1: of career. It didn't continue. So he's not going to

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Speaker 1: be a guy on Titans teams where they knew it

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Speaker 1: was going to him and him alone half the time, right,

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Speaker 1: So that's it's he's not going to be a guy

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Speaker 1: that's talked up for Can, but he is a guy

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Speaker 1: to me that should be talked up as like a

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Speaker 1: Titans ring of honor of type of player should throw

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Speaker 1: Matt Castle in the ring of Come on, all right,

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's all we really need to

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Speaker 1: talk about for the preseason for two thousand and seventeen.

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Speaker 1: So let's not delay it anymore. Let's uh, let's hear

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Speaker 1: those bugles again. It's time for part two of the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Extravaganza. Alright, so is this is this the first

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Speaker 1: time in the studio? I believe, uh one of the

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Speaker 1: key members of the Fantasy Live podcast and really one

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Speaker 1: of the puppet masters pulling, you know, the marionette strings

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. We welcome it's very dark to the studio,

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Speaker 1: Alex Galler. I thank you, thank you, it's an honor

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Speaker 1: to be here. I did uh come in and pinch

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Speaker 1: hit one time last I know, but weren't you were

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Speaker 1: on the outside of the last. Now you're getting to promote,

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Speaker 1: and usually they the Fantasy Live guys, you know they

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Speaker 1: they they show you a little it's a little too respectful.

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Speaker 1: They keep you outside of that. It wasn't the desk

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Speaker 1: one time. I think somebody was stricken with the dire illness.

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Speaker 1: And you have Leibon, Marcus me others compinshook as well.

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Speaker 1: I have the memory of a gold the time when

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Speaker 1: I was behind the glasses when I came up to

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Speaker 1: discuss the shot not heard around the World's at Westlemania's.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was, That's what I was thinking. A

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Speaker 1: lot of controversies, an infamous corn hole miss decision on

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Speaker 1: my poin. Whenever Gallar shows up, controversy sure to follow.

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Speaker 1: So he's going to help us with the Fantasy Extravaganza

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Speaker 1: and then, wow, we've got a big fish in the

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Speaker 1: room right now. I mean the gold jackets, none none other.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's the champion, the wrestling fan, the grand

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Speaker 1: pupa of the Fantasy coverage here at NFL Network, the

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Speaker 1: all dorks around the NFL. I've never been on this show.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever been with my guest. I

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Speaker 1: thought I had never thought you were. I thought you

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Speaker 1: were about four years, like a really long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for inviting me, bab Oh you're here, You're here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah enough, that's all that. Wow, I didn't know four years. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: It's great. Way. If I had any say and how

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Speaker 1: the show was organized, you could point the finger at me.

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Speaker 1: But I just sit here. I'm wheeled in and I

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Speaker 1: make a few comments and I'm wheeled out. Maybe Fabia Fabiano,

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Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't know that the fact the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Extravaganza is only once a year, and uh as Dan Hansas,

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Speaker 1: our humble host, always says, me and Chris Wesley, and

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Speaker 1: we helped we helped build Rhodo World brick by brick,

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Speaker 1: so we are usually the you know, the fantasy kind

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Speaker 1: of talk for these fantasy extravaganzas. And you know Mark's

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Speaker 1: also here. Hey listen, I'm having I'm only having fun

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Speaker 1: with you guys. It's always a pleasure when you invite

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Speaker 1: me once every four years. Uh So, if you our

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Speaker 1: regular listener, you'll know that we did a part one

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Speaker 1: of the Fantasy Extravaganza last week with some great guests,

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Speaker 1: Matt Matt Franchise, Franciscovic I don't know if I say

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Speaker 1: that right, and Marcus Grant and so if you're drafting

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Speaker 1: though this weekend, this is when I'm drafting. I think

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Speaker 1: this is the best weekend to draft, or even only

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Speaker 1: weekend to draft. I agree. Or even if you want

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Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday next week, you know, get it close.

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Speaker 1: If you got the time, why not get all the

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Speaker 1: information you can. There's cuts, there's trades. We're talking about it. No,

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Speaker 1: as much as you can. I have four in uh

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Speaker 1: two days next week. How many leagues are you're or

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Speaker 1: corner rules is you never be in more than I

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Speaker 1: think it's two or three leagues. I kin do this

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Speaker 1: for you know, it's he's doing it for a living.

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Speaker 1: How many good heavens? I have friends who worked for

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Speaker 1: Sirious XAM who are literally in like over twenty That's insane,

637
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: Bob Harris, preposterous. Say are these people engaged in like

638
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: meaningful relationships with other human beings? Not that I know of, Yes,

639
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: within their fantasy leagues. I once I got out of

640
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: the fantasy game professionally, that was one big relief off

641
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: my shoulder that you could just play, you know, you

642
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: could just kind of dabble in it for fun instead

643
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: of you're in ten leagues, you're trying. Okay, these are

644
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: the leagues I miss. I miss reading Greg Rosenthal's fantasy analysis. Man.

645
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: I used to read your stuff all the time back

646
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: when I was in CBS and you were a rotal world.

647
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: It was we've both been in the game long time,

648
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: for a long time. I started in two thousand three,

649
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: and I do remember there was the whispers then like,

650
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: oh maybe we're gonna hire Fabriano. Here a road the world.

651
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: But then you went to CBS. It's a it's been

652
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: a long time ten years now. For me, I'm just old.

653
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: That is that is a long time. I think this

654
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: will be my fifteen season on some level in football.

655
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: So let's, without further ado, let's talk a little bit

656
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: what a trip down memory leg Yeah, exactly, helpful. Lot

657
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: of backslap and going on in this round. So what

658
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna bring back a game that

659
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: we like to call who Do You Trust? And this

660
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: was inspired by a visit I had with Chris Westling

661
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: earlier this week, who's gearing up for the fantasy season.

662
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: In the regular season on his own, and he threw

663
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: out a who do you trust of his own which

664
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: was a little unrelated. He said, who do you trust

665
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,239
Speaker 1: to be back in the lineup faster? Andrew Luck or

666
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: Chris Westling And this seems to me like an obvious choice.

667
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to put any pressure and Luck. I

668
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: don't want to put any pressure on Chris west West

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00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: it's not he's been so tough throughout this whole ordeal

670
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: and that the surgery was a lot. But he's starting

671
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: to watch preseason, he had some real hot take us Biskey.

672
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: It's on Twitter, and uh, I don't trust anything that

673
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: comes out of Chuck Bagano's mouth about Andrew Luck. There

674
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: there was a head a headline literally in the Indianapolis

675
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: Star this week that said, Chuck Pogano is a liar.

676
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: Uh here, I think Chuck Pogano's a liar. This was

677
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: written by Greg Doyle shout out to another six G.

678
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: I don't trust what's going on there. I do trust

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00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley. We've already seen west in this studio when

680
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: he would say himself that he was not He's already

681
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: played hurt a thousand times this offseason. So it's easy

682
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: to trust West in this scenario. So we hope, we

683
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: hope you're back buddy soon. Uh, you know during the

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00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: regular season. He will be back, certainly early in the

685
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: regular season, I expect. But let's move on to some fantasy.

686
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: Let's do it at quarterback, all right? Who do you trust?

687
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna look early in the draft one of

688
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: our favorites on the Around the NFL podcast, Derek Carr,

689
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: who's a great guy and a great Twitter follow Derek

690
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: Carr or Russell Wilson both six round. For me, it's easy.

691
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Russell Wilson this year. Who I

692
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: trust more. He's done it more consistently. They're passing offense,

693
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: They've increased their attempts in each of the last five years.

694
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: They now have kind of hit their apex with everybody there.

695
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham is fully healthy. They figured out how to

696
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: use him last year. Doug Baldwin is one of the

697
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: most underrated wide receivers in the league. They've got athletic

698
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: speedsters and Paul Richardson and Tyler Lockett just ready to

699
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: make plays all over the field. That backfields a mess.

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00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: Gimme Wilson all day. Overall, it's Wilson that I would

701
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: trust more, but I trust Car more in that I

702
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: don't have to draft him until the tenth, eleventh, or

703
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: twelfth round. Where's Wilson. You're probably drafted in the sixth

704
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: or seventh round. So Car is probably gonna end up

705
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: being the better value from a fantasy perspective. Derek Carr

706
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: is good on camera, and despite all your good points, Alex,

707
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm you with I'm with you, Fabs, We're going Car.

708
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Raiders. Yeah, I mean, Card's

709
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: done it the I know Russell Wilson has done it too,

710
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective, but Cars got the same offensive line.

711
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: I mean, the continuity is there, the receiver are there,

712
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: the running backs who were there last year are back,

713
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: and then you're adding Marshawn Lynch to that. In terms

714
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: of trust. To me, Derek car seems a little safer.

715
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: I like that. The fact that Russell Wilson went out

716
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: lost a lot of weight, looks healthy, looks the body

717
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: is almost reaching Nick Shook levels, although the proportions are different.

718
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: I know, man, I feel like less of a man

719
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: sitting next to this gentleman, you should I look at

720
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: those biceps, dude, that's like my cat Like. We got

721
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: a lot of comments on Twitter. Uh did you notice

722
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: that Nick shook? Because it was a video show on

723
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: Wednesday that you were part of. We got a lot

724
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: of comments that you were in Adonis. He does feel

725
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: a little and you you mentioned this. It's a couple

726
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: of he feels a little objectified. Something we need to

727
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: pull I'm speaking to myself, pulled back on the body comments,

728
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: talk about Nick the person? I mean, haven't we objectified? Uh?

729
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: You know women in this society for far too long,

730
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: So shouldn't we k you know, even at out versus

731
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: not objectifying anyone, you must constantly be objectifying someone for

732
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: a while. Okay, got of that cross All right? What's

733
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: what's Who do we trust? Who do you trust? This

734
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: has been a constant debate in this room. But I

735
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: couldn't help but do it because they're getting drafted one

736
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: pick apart according to this average draft position, Jameis Winston

737
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: or Marcus Mariota. Yeah, man, I am all in on Mariota.

738
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: Mariotas who actually have in the top five quarterbacks this season?

739
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: I think this year is Matt Ryan. If you look

740
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: at the numbers, he put up between Week five and

741
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: Week twelve last year the best player in fantasy football.

742
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: So he's got it in him. And he didn't have

743
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: Eric Decker, he didn't have Corey Davis at that point.

744
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: You still got to Marco Murray in that backfield. So

745
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: the Titans will still run it, and you're not gonna

746
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, stack the box against de

747
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: Marco or Mariota will absolutely rip you apart. I like Jamis,

748
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I think he turns the ball

749
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: over too much. He's got great Yes, it does. You

750
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: lose points for interceptions if you were in a league

751
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: with smart people like James co who were going six touchdown.

752
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: Six points for touchdown, four for interception. On the bad side, yeah,

753
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: interceptions count in fantasy, not standard. Blake Bortles was objectively

754
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: an awful quarterback last year. Still finished as a top

755
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: ten passer though, so but that's because fantasy scoring is flawed.

756
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: It is. But that's what we're talking about. Hey, guys,

757
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: you know we're we're here, guys. You know, I don't

758
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: want to get into a big fantasy for me. This

759
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: is for me. This is incredibly close. I I think

760
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: I have Mariota branked slightly higher than Winston. But at

761
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: this point, perhaps I trust Winston a little more. I

762
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: think he's finally got the weapons there. They're gonna be

763
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: there in a competitive division that's gonna have a lot

764
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: of high scoring games. You could see a situation where

765
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: the Titans are just boat racing their division in several

766
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: games and are are running the ball and you know,

767
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: coasting to victory, whereas Winston is going to have to

768
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: match the firepower of the Saints, the Panthers, and the

769
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: Falcons six times throughout this season, so that that could

770
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: it self lead to more high scoring games where fantasy production.

771
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: For the sake of argument, I'm gonna go with Winston here.

772
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: I should have seen this coming. I think Mark's picking

773
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: up on I didn't understand the kind of rivalry that

774
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: might be happening between Fabian Know and Gelhard. There's definitely

775
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: fantasy expert heat. You're not everyone else in the room

776
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,479
Speaker 1: is picking that up, right. I thrive off of any

777
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: sort of pot storing attempts, whether it's hands here, so

778
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: I need to they're just stirring the pot a little bit. Yeah,

779
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: he's like a little finger of this podcast trying to

780
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: force siblings. Jamis Winston is the right answer here, by

781
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: the way, they both have not the right answer. They

782
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: both have great schedules. That's a good that's a good point.

783
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: So maybe they're both great values. But Winston is the

784
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: one facing you know, the Saints and the Falcon Panthers

785
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: defense is better, but also getting to face those AFC

786
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: South defenses out of division, which is nice, I believe.

787
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: And he's just gonna be throwing more. I think he's

788
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: gonna be throwing. I mean, it's a run first offense

789
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. It's not a run first off. Shook. He

790
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: solve the argument you just sold. You sold Mell and

791
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: Winston because I was gonna go Mariota because I'm a

792
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: huge fan of the exotic smash. But that's exactly why

793
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: it's gotta throw, you think Jamis Winston. Mariota can also

794
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: give you a lot of points. Running with the football

795
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: to Jamie is not so watch not since his rookie year.

796
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: That's true. Uh, but you know what, why not Let's

797
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: go with Jamis. All right, I'm gonna stay at quarterback

798
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: at least not two more. Who do you trust Cam

799
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: Newton coming off a shoulder surgery, surprisingly getting taken still

800
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: pretty high relatively considering he hasn't practiced at all or

801
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: played at all in the preseason. Just about or Ben Roethlisberger?

802
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: Where are the games being played? Is it home or road?

803
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: On the road? I want nothing to with Roethlisberger. Craig,

804
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: you have a weird look on your face. Have you

805
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: not seen the split? Buy into home road split? Dude?

806
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: Are you last year if your average points a game

807
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: on the road and over twenty two at home? He

808
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: was awful against bad teams on the road last year.

809
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: He gave you eight points against the Brown. Numbers against

810
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: the wall some years not randomness quarterback over the last

811
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: couple of normally with you, Greg, but this one has

812
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: some historical like veracity to it. Right, But even if

813
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: you throw numbers against the wall, things will stick for

814
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: a couple of seasons. But it doesn't mean I think

815
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is like a bad player. He's a great

816
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: He's a great player. I'm gonna go with Cam Newton

817
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: here too, though, because Ben Roethlisberger, despite his peggory, despite

818
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: how good of a quarterback he is, the offense he

819
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: operates in. He's only been a top twelve quarterback at

820
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: the end of the year I think once in the

821
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: last like six years when you actually break down the numbers,

822
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: whereas Cam, aside from his injured years, has never and

823
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: you know last year counters and injured one top four

824
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: every other year. So it's like it's a real life

825
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: first fantasy type thing. Yeah, where I would always want

826
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: for me on field in real life every season, every year.

827
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: This is not just any big Ben season. This is true.

828
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: We've got everybody an offensive line that's great, We've got

829
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: Martavis Briant back, We've got Antonio Brown, have got Bell

830
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: in his peak. I mean, this should be as good

831
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: a season as he's ever had could be. But I

832
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: still believe in that whole road home split. Look at it.

833
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm serious, take a look at it. And if you

834
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: look at careers Cam Newton, Cam Newton is so far

835
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: and away better in fantasy football than Ben Roethlisberger. It's

836
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: it's the running chek and the last thing I don't

837
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to endure those two to

838
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: three weeks when Ben Roethlisberger gets nicked up and we

839
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: think he may actually die like he may typically name

840
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: Ravens game he's you know, he's got out. He's he

841
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 1: always does get injured, but he sells it so high

842
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: and I don't want to deal with that stress on

843
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: my fantasy roster. I'll just take Newton Ben Roethlisberger and

844
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: his bronzed, oversized cleat for his massive swollen ankle. We're

845
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: going with him, just to be different, bab as you

846
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: convinced be on that one. Yeah, brother, look at it

847
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: this week and start for next week and start him

848
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: and sid him. I'm looking at Roethlisberger's numbers in Cleveland

849
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: career wise, and they are awful. He's averaged like game career,

850
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: which is funny because he's about nineteen and two against

851
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: the brown Don't care, I mean I do in real life.

852
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: That's where I divide. This is where I'm actually saying

853
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: a good thing about the Browns, and you're upset about it,

854
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: well because because they're defensive the result, Because in real life,

855
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: what fantasy results are attached to Big Ben, I mean

856
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: nothing to you to the fact that Cleveland is the

857
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: one win they have in like the last decade, came

858
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: in like negative twenty degree temperatures with Josh Cribbs running

859
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: the Wildcat. That actual functional, nonfunctional Brown's offices are like

860
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 1: two and nineteen against Big Ben is no comfort fantasy

861
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: hat take these historical numbers. It doesn't matter. This is

862
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: all that matters is right now. I'm serious because this

863
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: Brown's team and they don't have anything to do with

864
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: any other Brown's team. This Steeler's team, for the most part,

865
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: don't really have much to do. I would care that.

866
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: I agree. You have to look at what's happening right

867
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: now from fantasy now what happened. But there are weird

868
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: trends out there that are hard to ignore when they're like,

869
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, ten seasons deep. Like Chris Sale for the

870
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: Red Sox, your beloved Red Sox. He's awesome against everybody.

871
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Indians kill him and this has been his

872
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: entire career. It goes to trend that you can take

873
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: a look at and think, wow, that's really interesting. It's

874
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: interesting by and large. I'm I'm with you on these, Greg,

875
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: but the Roethlisberger one, that one, I it just puzzles me.

876
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: Running back, could you trust more Lashan McCoy or DeMarco Murray.

877
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray? Uh have to rationalize. Uh. You know there's

878
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: not a lot around. Uh. I know Lasha McCoy. I

879
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: know it is his both potential first round picks and

880
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: fantasy maybe Murray's going in the second. Maybe. I think

881
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: I'd go McCoy by a little bit here that the

882
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: situation is getting dire more and more dire by the

883
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: minute in Buffalo for that offense. But I'll take Shady

884
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: right now. DeMarco has already had a hamstring that worries me.

885
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: He's got that monster monster known as Derrick Henry behind

886
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: him ready to take over the load if he gets

887
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: nicked up. I'll go McCoy. I feel like McCoy could

888
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: wind up on a different team by Week six or so,

889
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: and that could change his whole fantasy world. Yeah, I'm

890
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: going McCoy as well. You can't ignore last year. Uh.

891
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: And this has been one of the better running backs

892
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: in fantasy football. Uh during his career between Philadelphia and Buffalo. Hey,

893
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: DeMarco has been great too. Don't get me wrong. I

894
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind having either one of these guys on my roster,

895
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: but if I had to pick one, it would be Shady.

896
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: It's close, but it's not much. But I don't trust

897
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 1: really either of these guys this year and for their draft,

898
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: for their draft value. And McCoy is a guy you

899
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: guys like to do those do no, do not draftless.

900
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,439
Speaker 1: You kind of come up with some guys to stay

901
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: away from McCoy. Forget about it. I would don't. I

902
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: would not take him in any lay. I still don't

903
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: want him. I know he had a great season last

904
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: year and he's a great player. Sometimes you just gotta say,

905
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: this is a mess. It's gonna be a mess. He

906
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: looks like a potential huge bus. There's at least like

907
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: a thirty five percent chance he is just a massive bus.

908
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: So I just say I feel the same way about

909
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, Yes, because all of the same red flags

910
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: are there, if not more, his offensive line is more

911
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: in disrepair. He's got old beat up guys in the interior.

912
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: He's got Mike Glennon or Mitchell Trobiski throwing long. Is

913
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: a good player, and he's gott sitting his head back

914
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: issues for like five straight years. He missed games last

915
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: pretty good last year, but defense might be able to stay.

916
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: Howard would not be a guy. Howard would not be

917
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: a guy. If I was in multiple leagues. I think

918
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: I would ever draft probably either, just because it costs

919
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: so much to You're right when he's in that mix.

920
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: For me, all of those guys, well not DeMarco, he's

921
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: actually in a good offense, but those running backs and

922
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: bad offenses, just the red flags start popping up, scoring

923
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: potential game script like and if they're not get catching passes,

924
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: that really deflates their value. A lot of hot takes

925
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: so far, and we're gonna get to more hot takes

926
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: as we continue. Who do you trust? But I've got

927
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: a treat for everyone in the room right now, especially

928
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: Michael Fabiano, because you have never been in this room.

929
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: When we take a trip and it can get a

930
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: little dangerous over to the fantasy corner. This isn't this

931
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: isn't just any corner. This is kind of going to

932
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: the rough and tumble, you know part of the Are

933
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: you guys putting a dunce cap on? No, No, it's

934
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: sssler and it's not safe. I mean the takes here

935
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: are dangerous. Antagonist, Uh, you might not get out the

936
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: same that you walked into the fantasy corner, but it's

937
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: time to go over there. Actually, like last week, because

938
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: it is a very dangerous scenario. Here a lot of

939
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: heat on the street. If we could just sneak behind

940
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: the store and get inside to read, uh, we're hiding

941
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: in an abandoned building. Nails and Greg and I here, Greg,

942
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: thank you for joining me in here. A p s

943
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: A basically is what this is? What is fantasy football's

944
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: long game? As the rotisseary parlor sport continues to morph

945
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: into a vast money making sensation. What is the fate

946
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: of this virgin industry in a changing world? I see

947
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: three potential outcomes for fantasy football. Scenario number one, it

948
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 1: balloons unabated as the decades roll on and pro football

949
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: continues it's unquestioned top spot as the nation's favorite pastime,

950
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: leaving baseball, basketball, and something called hockey deep in the

951
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: distance for the next two hundred years. American life grows

952
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: more and more luxury laden as we bathe for the

953
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: rest of our days, and a vicarious wonderland. Scenario number

954
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: two even better, fantasy football becomes such a critical cash

955
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: how for Pro football that by the league takes swift

956
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: action to further inter weave the fan experience into games

957
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: on a core level. Instead of Kyle Shanahan calling plays.

958
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: Game flow is dictated by a pool of three hundred

959
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: thousand lottery winning fantasy players who vote online in between

960
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: snaps on how players should be utilized. In haste, fantasy

961
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: football grows bigger than pro football itself. As a result,

962
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: beat writers, reporters, and so called insiders are wiped off

963
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: the grid in favor of hulking fantasy analysts think tanks

964
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: who covered the hobby with a nationalistic zeal typically reserved

965
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: for political uprising scenario number three. While doing its best

966
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: to completely ignore the swiftly growing culture war in our country,

967
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: pro football, and by attachment, fantasy football continues to market

968
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: itself as the ideal mental release from life stresses. This

969
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: plan works beautifully until October, when a portal opens up

970
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: over ages Golden Triangle region hundreds of miles wide, the

971
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: staggering celestial openinging beams red white light down on the Earth.

972
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com does its best to ignore the staggering

973
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: Earth event, publishing breathless stories about Patrick Mahomes throwing five

974
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a Week eight game attended by one hundred

975
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: and sixteen fans. The site wonders why an article ten

976
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: fantasy sleepers who can't be ignored receives nineteen clicks from

977
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: a terrified human race wondering about the hole in the

978
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: sky over Deep Asia. The answer finally comes seven days later,

979
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: when ten thousand beings of light descend from the sky opening,

980
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: hovering over Earth and speaking telepathically to all living creatures.

981
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: The beans announced in unison. The computer simulation is over.

982
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: Time to leave the Fantasy Corner and go back to

983
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: our regularly scheduled program. Those were all extremely plausible, I think.

984
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of laughter there, um,

985
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: but I was chilled. That was that was That was

986
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: one of the toughest trips to the corner because I

987
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: think it opened up a window into a lot of

988
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: our souls. It's gonna make it give us a lot

989
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: to ponder for the futures. I mean, Fabriana was definitely

990
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: a little worried. Yeah, I think it was a little scared,

991
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: a little strip to the corner. That's that's a big one.

992
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: Two of those three options are promising. I feel I

993
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: feel like scenario too, in which Fabriano is leading one

994
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: of those cabals UH deciding what happens on the field.

995
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: That feels to me, like the most realist feels realist possibility.

996
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: Maybe not every team is like that, but Fabian, like

997
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: Fabriano and and other different fantasy decision makers are running

998
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: like a division's worth, like, you know, like one team

999
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: is run by the thing. I could see that there

1000
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: would never be backfield committees again. We'd go back to

1001
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: the days of featured backs. It would be tremendous. Marie

1002
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: Cooper and Julio Jones would get targeted near the goal line. Yes,

1003
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: wonderful Rob Gronkowski, you know, we inject him with some

1004
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: adam antium and yeah, they viewed this is all a

1005
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: good thing. That two of the three scenarios are pretty wow.

1006
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: It's almost hard to move on from that, but we're

1007
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: going to We're gonna keep going back to a little

1008
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: who do you trust? And uh, I do have a

1009
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: little breaking news before we get out of here just

1010
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: a few minutes. But before we do that, let's throw

1011
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 1: out Let's try to be quick since we are are

1012
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: running out of time, but I got a few more

1013
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: to get to. Let's let's go who do you trust

1014
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: that running back? Kareem Hunt or Time Montgomery or Joe Mixon. Well,

1015
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm going with Kareem Hunt here, I've got all these

1016
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: guys really kind of bunched together in my ranking him.

1017
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, Mixing is probably more talented than all three,

1018
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: but you've got Jeremy Hill and Joe Bernard there still.

1019
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: At some point, I do believe he's gonna end up

1020
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: being the guy, uh sooner than later. But Kareem Hunt

1021
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: is in an offense where we know he's gonna be

1022
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: a featured back. At least we all suspect he will be.

1023
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: With Spencer Ware out for the year. If you look

1024
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: at Andy Reid's pedigree when it comes to fantasy running backs,

1025
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: you go back to Brian Westbrook and Do Staley, Uh,

1026
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: and Shady and Charles. He's had a lot of running

1027
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 1: backs put up good numbers. Heck, even Correl buck Halter,

1028
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: you remember him. He had a couple of decent fantasy

1029
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: seasons as well. So I would go with Hunt because

1030
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: I know he's going to get the volume. I know

1031
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: the offense is conducive to running backs finding success, and

1032
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: I know this kid is versatile. Hopefully he doesn't get

1033
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: blown up in pass protection too much because that could

1034
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: be a problem. Otherwise, I do think he has all

1035
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: the skills to be a very solid RB two Fabiano

1036
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: with the buck Halter, Go go. I'm with you on

1037
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: the mixing thing. Well, he is extremely talented. Talent doesn't

1038
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: always win out in fantasy. It's opportunity. And while Kareem

1039
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: Hunt has a lot, I'm gonna be a bit of

1040
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: a homer here and also knew the side of Time Montgomery,

1041
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 1: a guy who is a converted wide receiver now playing

1042
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: running back. But he's big, he's strong, he's fast, he

1043
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: can run between the tackles. Jamal Williams this rookie that

1044
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: got Fantasy Twitter all ablaze when he was drafted by

1045
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: the Packers. You know what. His longest run in the

1046
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: preseason was six yards. Get that out of here. I

1047
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: want Time a gut Montgomery in there breaking tackles. Per

1048
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: Next Gen Stats, he had one of the highest yards

1049
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: after a defender was within one yard of him created

1050
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: on his own over five point five for Carrie. He

1051
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: caught about seventy seven percent of his passes last year

1052
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, so it wasn't like he got

1053
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: all those as a wide receiver. His ceiling is outrageous.

1054
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: In one of the highest scoring offenses in the League

1055
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: back when ed in Eddie Lacy's hey day he finished

1056
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: the RB six and back to back years. That is

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00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: well within time Montgomery's range of outcomes. Give me the

1058
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,399
Speaker 1: running back in the high scoring offense who can catch

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00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: a million passes all day, every day. I got a

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00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: chance to break down a lot of time montgomery film

1061
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: last year, and I loved what I saw. And I

1062
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: love him for all the reasons that you just pretty

1063
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: much pointed out. I don't really have much else to

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00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: expand that he's he's good and and he's he's got

1065
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: an ability to create some extra yards. I don't know

1066
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: if that's necessarily as important in what we're talking about

1067
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: right now, but just looking at him as a running

1068
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,479
Speaker 1: back who's multi talented, I like the guy I tried.

1069
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: I trust in talent. I I think that's more important

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00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: in general ty and leaning. I was leading TI, but

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00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: I would still go to make and I think fantasy

1072
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: gets too caught up with what's the situation going into

1073
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: Week one? Just who's the best player. If you make

1074
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: those decisions a lot, then you I think over time,

1075
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: you get rewarded. So all three are close. I kind

1076
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: of like all three, but i'd good Joe Mixing, Yeah,

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00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: it's close. And Montgomery he he had a huge percentage

1078
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: of his fantasy points last year in that one game

1079
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: against Chicago Bears, and the Packers have a lot of

1080
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: offensive weapons. I like Montgomery, but I just feel like

1081
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: Hunt is going to be a guy who's going to

1082
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 1: see more touches. Mark Sess, I believe you have a

1083
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: who do you trust? To throw out there? I do, alright,

1084
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: imagine this scenario. You are a single guy and utterly

1085
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: terrible with women. Not too hard for some of us

1086
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: in this room, or all of us except for Nick Shook.

1087
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: To imagine others maybe too, I don't know. You're working

1088
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: a dead end job in an office in some anonymous

1089
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: city by the sea. Over the past four months, you've

1090
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: developed a killer crush on Juliette Kasmar, the low level

1091
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 1: account relations analyst who sits fourteen feet away in a

1092
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: cubicle on who once told you that she loves gaming,

1093
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: especially World of Warcraft. In an effort to win her over,

1094
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: you need one NFL dot com fan to see analyst

1095
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: to swoop in and organize the perfect first date. Do

1096
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: you trust Marcus Grant? By my account, a smooth fellow

1097
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: or anyone else attached to the fantasy team. Who nails

1098
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: this assignment? Who do you trust? WHOA? I trust? Marcus Grant?

1099
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: Interesting Marcus. Marcus Grant also as a smooth you can

1100
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: pick yourself by the way, has he has deep nerd

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00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: WI I'll just go with Marcus Grant. I'm already on

1102
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: this train. He has deep nerd cred. He's a creative guy,

1103
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: has many, many interests. I think you'd be able to

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00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: contract longtime listeners of the show. You know, I love you, Marcus,

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00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: But longtime listeners of the show, well know. I always

1106
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: take the field. So I don't know, I don't even

1107
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: know who it is, but I'm taking the field. I

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00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: mean you have if you have to pick someone, Yeah,

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00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: you have to be to pick someone with taking the

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00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: rest of the group. Someone's gonna step up. I'm taking myself. Okay,

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00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: why would I not take myself? That that right? There

1112
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 1: is a move that that speaks to have you guys

1113
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: seen my girlfriend? That's a good that's a fair point.

1114
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I'm done, Trump, You've done the

1115
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: work already said yes. The best players believe with themselves.

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00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: Marcus is a social chameleon. I've seen him in multiple

1117
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: social scenarios and he's thrived in all of them. I'm

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00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: taking him every time. All right, Uh, let's do a

1119
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: speed round before a little breaking news. I was shocked

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Speaker 1: that Danny Woodhead is getting drafted so high. Who do

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00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: you trust? Danny Woodhead, Eddie Lacey or Thomas Rawlshead? Oh

1122
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: my god, is anybody in Seattle I don't trust in

1123
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: the running back spot. No, Baltimore is targeted running backs

1124
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: the second most out of any team the past two years.

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00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: Why would you not want a great guy who can

1126
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: catch pass and do work in the red zone? Thirty

1127
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: four year old who literally didn't play football on a

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Speaker 1: terrible offense. And you haven't seen him play football in

1129
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: a long long time. The last time I saw him

1130
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: play football, he was damn good. Bad Offen is gonna

1131
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: have to throw the ball a lot to Danny Woodhead.

1132
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: How could you? Eddie Lacey has been awful for two years.

1133
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I mean, come on, I would go

1134
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: Thomas ross wow uh In in the backfield with four

1135
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 1: guys who could potentially see thirty three in uh in January.

1136
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: And he's from North Platte Nebraska. Who Midwestern? Alright, who

1137
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: do you trust? T Y Hilton or Keenan Allen. Keenan

1138
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Allen is Andrew luck Plague if Andrew looks there, t

1139
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: Y Hilton Otherwise this weekend. I don't like to you

1140
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: why this weekend at all? Okay, Des Bryant or Michael

1141
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: Thomas or Amari Cooper. I have Michael Thomas ranked ahead

1142
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: of Dez by one spot, and as a Cowboys homer,

1143
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: it pains me to say that, but it's Michael Thomas.

1144
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Michael Thomas too. Again, wrong answer.

1145
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 1: It's Des Bryant. Finally, Martavis Bryant, Mary Tavis Bryant or

1146
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin their last one, not even close. It's Martavis

1147
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: Bryant by a mile. We're talking about. Had a nice pa,

1148
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: pretty quiet in in practice in preseason. Benjamin even last year,

1149
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: had like seven touchdowns in a thousand yards coming off

1150
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: of torn a c L. I'll take that. He's fully back,

1151
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 1: but he did everything in the first three weeks of

1152
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: the year, and then he was garbage. So what the

1153
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: last time we saw Martavis Bryan on the field, all right,

1154
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: when we did, he was damn good too. Fifteen touchdowns.

1155
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: Two games feature on Martavis Bryan that convinces me I'm

1156
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: sold he'll be on the field all year this year,

1157
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: and uh, that's it for the fantasy Uh extravagances, a

1158
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: lot of heat, there, a lot of danger. Enjoyed it.

1159
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: The potential either end or explosion of the entire fantasy industry.

1160
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: So that was exciting. I'm gonna have nightmares about that

1161
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: simulation coming to an end. That would have been breaking news.

1162
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: And I think we have some of our own. Yeah,

1163
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: we do have some big breaking news before we leave.

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00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: How about this. The Seattle Seahawks have made the best

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00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: defense in football even better acquiring Sheldon Richardson from the

1166
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: Jets in exchange for Jermaine Curse. Jermaine Curse and a

1167
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: conditional second round pick that is from our NFL Network insiders,

1168
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: he and Rappidport and Mike garra Folo. Wow, the Seahawks

1169
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: pick up Richardson and it costs a law given up

1170
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: a conditional second Dan Hands, as our host, pointed out

1171
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: this possibility just last show well, and he was actually

1172
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: correct on the potential you know, draft pick reward going

1173
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: the other way, which I think is a great prediction

1174
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: by him, and he's in a contract here. So if

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00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: you're Seattle, you know this is not a team that's

1176
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: in a you know, one year super Bowl window. You

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00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: want to try to find a way to keep him

1178
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: on your uster for a long time. But they needed

1179
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: to get that line. They've really had a trouble actually

1180
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: getting the interior of their line settled. They've always had

1181
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: kind of just guys and that's fine. Since the Super Bowl,

1182
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: they spent in me Baine and uh whoever else I'm forgetting,

1183
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: and then they have Ruben as well. It looks like

1184
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: they're trying to trade to get in reverse here. They

1185
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: spend their money on the outside. But wow, I said

1186
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: it earlier. I think this is the best defense in

1187
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: the league. When you have Bennett, April, Thomas Sherman, Wagner,

1188
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: kJ Wright all together that they played together, and now

1189
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 1: you add Richardson, who can be a younger guy added

1190
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 1: to that mix. It's reminds you of the Percy Harvon trade,

1191
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: which had the results at best for the Seahawks. But

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Speaker 1: I like the chance they're taking, especially because Richardson looked

1193
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: great in the preseason. Um this is kind of a

1194
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: nerdy view of this, but I'm curious to see what

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01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: the terms of the draft pick are, what makes it,

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01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, conditional terms of whether it's it sounds like

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01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: it'll be a second or a third. So either way

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01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: they're getting okay because it's gotta be based on Richardson's

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01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: performance most likely. So I just want to know what

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Speaker 1: the benchmarks are for that well, and what's the Percy

1201
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: Harvin in terms of the daring do attached to it? Yes,

1202
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: but Percy Harvin created issues right away from Seattle in

1203
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: terms of how to fit them in, and it kind

1204
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: of split up that locker room. This is not someone

1205
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: that you need to figure out how to plug into

1206
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: your defense. No. I mean, motivation has certainly been I

1207
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: think an issue with Richardson, but he's in a contract here.

1208
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: And the difference is this isn't an offensive team. This

1209
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: is a defensive team. You get Pete Carroll, some guys

1210
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: who hadn't done quite as much in other places, like

1211
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Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, like Cliff Ariel, who knows how to coach

1212
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: up talent. I mean, he is, along with Belichick but

1213
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: maybe even more so, the premier defensive coach in the NFL.

1214
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: And you give him Sheldon Richardson. This was my Super

1215
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: Bowl pick before this trade. It's double my super Bowl pawn.

1216
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: If you're not motivated to play football as a defender

1217
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: in Seattle, there's no reason you should be playing at all.

1218
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: How about the NFL starting to come through with some

1219
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: big time trades? The trades? Where were these for all

1220
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: those years? It's a it's a salary cap thing. I

1221
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: really believe that there's more flexibility because the salary cap

1222
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: is so high, you can do something like take on

1223
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: eight million dollars of Sheldon Richardson. And that's your main curse?

1224
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: Is there? Even there's no fantasy and pay you're not.

1225
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: I mean, well, jeez, Robby Anderson, You've got Chad Hanson.

1226
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's not a whole lot to like

1227
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Speaker 1: team hashtag never Jets Fantasy this year, I would take

1228
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: Billy Powell. But that's about it. Wow, alright, some breaking

1229
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: news as we and what a fun day this was

1230
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: on the program getting Fabiano in the Student. I know, man,

1231
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait to make another appearance in What I

1232
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: want to be Salty. You are a leap year. By

1233
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: then they may not have fantasy. Yeah. By the mark scenarios.

1234
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: You'll be running your own franchise, so you can fire

1235
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: us all for the lack of respect we apparently showed

1236
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: you that show. I would never do such a thing.

1237
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's get out. Lets you make me another four.

1238
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here. For the Sizzler, for Nick

1239
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: shooking all those muscles, for Michael Fabriano, Alex galhar Erica,

1240
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 1: Tam Posty behind the glass, hands us some way back

1241
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: Tuesday there next show. We'll see you