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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hello, guys, welcome to Almost Famous.

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Speaker 3: And the OG and the It's like DJ and the Bear.

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Speaker 4: Hi.

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Speaker 2: So we're here to talk about Jason Tartic and Kat

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Speaker 2: Stickler's breakup.

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Speaker 3: Yes. So I'm really bummed about this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, I know we have to talk about

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Speaker 4: it because it is Bachelor Nation news, and I get it.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, only half Bachelor Nation news.

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Speaker 3: That's true, it's only half news.

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Speaker 2: What happened, Like when did it become like if there

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Speaker 2: was a Bachelor person involved, it was still a Bachelor

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Speaker 2: Nation couple because that's what they just like, shouldn't it

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Speaker 2: just separate off?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it should be like just a separate breaking news

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Speaker 4: for two personas in the year.

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Speaker 2: If Jason had never dated Caitlin, this wouldn't really have

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Speaker 2: been news. But he really stayed in such a relevant

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Speaker 2: battle for so long.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's very true. And you know it's funny. When

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Speaker 4: he first started dating Cat, I actually was like I

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Speaker 4: didn't know who she was, and I was like, wow,

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Speaker 4: she kind of resembles Caitlin a little like in my mind,

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Speaker 4: like I thought they kind of resembled one another. I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't say they looked alike, but they had like both

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Speaker 4: had these bubbly personalities, both bruts both.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe that's why I thought that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but anyway, Yes, it's official, they are

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Speaker 4: broken up. I owe him a phone call, actually, and

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Speaker 4: I will do that.

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Speaker 2: You're saying that you owe the phone call to say I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sorry that you to hear about your breakup.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that means you guys are close enough for

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Speaker 2: you to make a phone call like that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think we're I wouldn't say we're We're

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Speaker 4: not like you know, it's not like we're like besties

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Speaker 4: and we call each other every day. But whenever we

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Speaker 4: see each other at things or whenever we something happens,

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Speaker 4: it's relevant in the other person's life.

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Speaker 3: We both reached out. I love his mom because you know,

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Speaker 3: he did the Today Show panel with me few times.

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Speaker 4: That's how he and I and that's where he broke

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Speaker 4: that he and Caitlin were a couple actually, and uh

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Speaker 4: it was with with with Kathy Lean Hodah and so

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Speaker 4: you know, I feel like I was a part of

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Speaker 4: that journey a little bit there, and you know, not

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Speaker 4: so much a part of this one. I never met Kat,

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Speaker 4: but you know, I was rooting for them. But I

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Speaker 4: gotta think it's hard, you know, Like I was thinking

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Speaker 4: about this the other day. You know, I make like

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Speaker 4: I literally I've had the conversations with people and they'll go,

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Speaker 4: you know, are you into what we call online dating?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, I do deald fashion. I go

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Speaker 3: on a TV showing him not flowers.

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Speaker 2: But also, like, you haven't been dating in quite some time.

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Speaker 3: I haven't be dating in a very long time. Although

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to date my wife again to let her.

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Speaker 2: Know we should do that too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough with kids at these ages, you know.

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Speaker 4: But uh yeah, So I was so hopeful for these two,

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Speaker 4: but I also realized how difficult it had to be

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Speaker 4: because they're both they both become uh you know Instagram

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Speaker 4: people write or or TikTok people or whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's what she's known for, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: as being a social media She's an influencer who really

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Speaker 2: gardnered her own audience. You know, she didn't come from

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 3: Right, which is huge.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's her career and I've.

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Speaker 4: Got to believe that it's difficult, you know, Like like

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Speaker 4: I watched the video that she posted about their breakup,

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Speaker 4: and she looked like the last thing in the world

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Speaker 4: she wanted to talk about, you know, And I don't

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Speaker 4: know what that means other than I'm sure it's it's

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Speaker 4: it's not it's not brand new, right, because, like she said,

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Speaker 4: she's waited for a couple of the hurricanes that passed

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Speaker 4: by before she posted something, which I think is pretty

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Speaker 4: mindful and says a lot about her to to, you know,

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Speaker 3: And she posts something in the middle of a you know,

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Speaker 3: natural disaster. Yeah, good for her on that.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, and then you read what Jason wrote,

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Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, he he seems like he's

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Speaker 4: really lamenting the moment, and she almost I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: She doesn't have time to like sit around the wallow.

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Speaker 4: She's got to get back in the mix with her

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Speaker 4: child and be present and be you know, you can't

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Speaker 4: sit in the couch and eat you know, a couple

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Speaker 4: of cases of hoggindash for a month to get yourself

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Speaker 4: over a breakup. You got a kid that needs you,

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Speaker 4: so you're back in the mix. You know, I don't

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Speaker 4: know what are your thoughts. I mean, you're a woman,

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Speaker 4: you've gone through this kind of thing, and you know,

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Speaker 4: what do you think when you when you see both

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Speaker 4: sides of this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so hers is obviously we feel more emotionally because

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Speaker 2: we see her and we hear her when she's talking

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Speaker 2: about it. She says it's mutual in the video. There's

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Speaker 2: two sides of this. You can say, oh, it's mutual

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Speaker 2: and like both people are going to be sad, or

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Speaker 2: you can try to spin it the juice her way,

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Speaker 2: I suppose, and be like, she seems quite upset. Doesn't

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Speaker 2: seem mutual. Yeah, And you know, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: make a lot of judgments there. We really don't know

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Speaker 2: at all what happened. Jason said in his statement that

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Speaker 2: he's a guy that like falls hard and falls fast,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes falling in love like that doesn't always work out.

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Speaker 2: I think he's like kind of referring to his relationship

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Speaker 2: with Caitlin in that sense too, just because he kind

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Speaker 2: of like makes it a general statement, right, But the

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Speaker 2: two of them have been together for I want to

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Speaker 2: say it was like nine months. I think they were

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Speaker 2: first spotted on vacation and December or January together. I

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Speaker 2: know Ben had dinner with him, and I think February

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Speaker 2: the two of them, and then they announced their relationship,

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Speaker 2: and we'll have the dates in front of me. But

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Speaker 2: I sometimes earning a spring, and so much of their

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Speaker 2: on social media where it's like just so many tiktoks

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Speaker 2: get that you have to do you know, it's kind

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Speaker 2: of you don't have to do it, but we get

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Speaker 2: that as two influencers, it's beneficial to show your love

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Speaker 2: like that if it's you know, you'd like to think true.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm sure it was very very true. We

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Speaker 2: and we probably will never will. Yeah, she wants to

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Speaker 3: I always say there's three sides to every story. There's

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Speaker 3: her side his side and the truth right, So.

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Speaker 4: Like, and that's I really believe that not just in breakups,

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Speaker 3: Is like there's always there's always some great area where.

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Speaker 4: We're all interpreting things a little bit differently than one another,

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Speaker 4: and you got to hope that somehow that just sort

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Speaker 4: of mixes in the middle and it's it's all good.

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Speaker 4: But you know, in a situation like this, I think,

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Speaker 3: Like you said, this isn't a hobby for her. This

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Speaker 4: And she's she's a mom, you know, and so I

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Speaker 4: would imagine as she strikes me as someone who would

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Speaker 4: as much as you can be, you know, when you're

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Speaker 4: I would guess that you you know, your kid always

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Speaker 3: So I wonder if that has anything to do with anything.

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Speaker 2: That probably makes it harder for her. I'm sure that

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Speaker 2: she didn't want to one introduce Jason to her. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure he stayed. I don't I'm just assuming things, but

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he stayed at their house at some point.

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Speaker 2: And you know, she did put the relationship out there

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Speaker 2: so much with with having a child, and that's totally fine.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying that, like I think that she

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Speaker 2: probably was, like I thought that this would have more longevity,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know they always say that, like people

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Speaker 4: say say, like I didn't introduce them to my kids

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Speaker 4: we're at that point or something, you know, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: thank you, right.

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Speaker 2: I feel for her on that, and especially since she's

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Speaker 2: probably that's what she's probably getting in the comments like

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Speaker 2: what sucks for her, But and it sucks just in

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Speaker 2: general that like you have to deal with something like

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Speaker 2: But you know, then you also have to think about

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Speaker 2: it's just like it's the best job in the entire world,

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Speaker 2: but does come with its downsides, and that being one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's definitely a downside to it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess you're right, we're probably never gonna know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, maybe it is am a call amongst both

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Speaker 4: Maybe there's a light at the end of the tunnel

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Speaker 4: at some point for them as well.

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Speaker 3: You never, no, I guess. But doesn't seem like her

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Speaker 2: Her message as I don't know her personally at all,

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Speaker 2: and you know I've only seen Jason on a occasion. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I still feel like I can talk about Jason's future romances,

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Speaker 2: more so because he's part of Bachelor Nation. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not even going to dabble with her. But what what

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Speaker 2: do you see is next for Jason? Do you think

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Speaker 2: he's going to be single for a while or do

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Speaker 2: you think that he's gonna date somebody else in the

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Speaker 2: public eye? He gonna date somebody bribe it, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, I will say this so having been someone who

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Speaker 4: dated publicly and got married publicly and then divorced publicly,

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Speaker 4: you know, the hardest thing is is something like this,

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Speaker 4: you know, like I remember going into the grocery store

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Speaker 4: and you know, and my ex wife and I are

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Speaker 4: on the cover of you know, us Weekly, and you know, with.

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Speaker 3: A rip down the Meddle, and I'm just like, oh geez,

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Speaker 4: And I made the conscious choice after that that I

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna try and keep something to myself

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Speaker 4: for a little while. And I would say, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know, for for Jason in particular, like you said,

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Speaker 3: Pretty public now, you know, breakups, and you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: Time to try and not be so out there with

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Speaker 4: you know, And you definitely have every right to say that, right,

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Speaker 4: you definitely have.

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Speaker 3: Every right to go, I'm gonna take my time on

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Speaker 4: And I was gonna, you know, I'm gonna wait before

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Speaker 4: I put it out there because I don't want people commenting.

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Speaker 3: Even if that's why you're not doing it. It's just

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Speaker 3: to keep you know.

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Speaker 4: Everybody at home, just to sort of keep their mouths

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Speaker 4: shut for a little bit and give me a chance

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Speaker 4: to have a relationship that develops at a normal pace

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Speaker 4: as opposed to a highly accelerated pace, which I think

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Speaker 4: that's what social media does.

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Speaker 3: It takes at next level really fast. You know. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know that that would my thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Well, the next thing we can hopefully get is an

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Speaker 2: Jason will come on the podcast, you know, when this

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Speaker 2: is less relevant news, but always interested to know what

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Speaker 2: happens in relationships. You know. I've because I'm a noseybody,

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Speaker 2: and you know, this podcast, while we try to keep

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Speaker 2: it classy, it really is a gossip podcast. And that

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Speaker 2: is fine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we do try to keep it classy San Diego,

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Speaker 4: but we often Yeah, Well, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: Are you are you prepared to break your news here

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Speaker 3: on our podcast of what you did last night?

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Speaker 2: Oh that I met justin Timberlake last night? What guys?

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Speaker 2: I posted the video on Instagram. You can see the

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Speaker 2: whole one minute in fifteen second interaction. I think that's

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Speaker 2: officially meeting somebody, and thank you to everybody who took

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Speaker 2: video of his interaction. I can't believe that I was

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Speaker 2: just the most unreal moment of my life, A true

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Speaker 3: Did he know who you were? Or did he?

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Speaker 2: I always used to say, like, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how I feel about meeting your like idols.

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Speaker 3: Heroes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, heroes is like a strong word, you know. I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't call it just a hero, but like definitely an idol,

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Speaker 2: And it was. It was. It was everything I could

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Speaker 2: have imagined and hopeful.

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Speaker 3: I love that so good.

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Speaker 2: I can watch the video over and over again. But

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Speaker 2: to be honest, I was like scared to watch the

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Speaker 2: what if I'm not cool? What if it's not as

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Speaker 2: good as I thought it was in real life? And

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Speaker 2: it was. It came across on video wonderfully as well.

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Speaker 3: Was it a setup moment or was it just a

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Speaker 3: total organic moment?

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Speaker 2: Total organic moment. My friend who I went with wrote

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Speaker 2: a sign that said I delivered her baby on your

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Speaker 2: birthday because I went with my midwife. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: and Dawson was born on Justin's birthday, and I kind

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Speaker 2: of knew that that sign that we had second row

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Speaker 2: seats might garner a little attention from him. All right, Well,

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Speaker 2: now my kid, who was born on Justin Tipla's birthday,

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Speaker 2: is yelling at me to get him another piece of pizza,

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Speaker 2: so I guess I'll have to.

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Speaker 3: Go that mom duty calls. All right, we have a

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Speaker 3: great night. Thanks everybody for listening to Almost Famous and

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Speaker 3: the OG. We've had a good time Almost to Joe G.

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Speaker 2: You know you should fill in for Ben whenever we need,

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Speaker 2: and we'll just keep calling it that. I love it.

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Speaker 3: I love it too. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye.

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