1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: The third hour of Clay and Buck starts right now. 4 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: Everybody appreciate you being here with us. The border continues 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: to be an absolute mess. Things not quite as bad 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: in terms of the numbers as was expected after title 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: forty two ended. But as I was saying all along, Clay, 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: title forty two is something that was only used sometimes 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: in certain cases. There were still six million people. It's 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: not like, oh, the border was locked down. What happens 11 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: when title forty two goes? And now some are making 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: the argument, which I think is valid, that so many 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: people were coming into the country illegally that you effectively 14 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: didn't have much of a change in the flow because 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: the numbers were pretty much at a max day to day, 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: which was not necessarily what was thought what happened with 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: title forty two. But all right, take a check in 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 2: here on what's going on with the border. According to 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: the Biden White House, here's Kareine Jean Pierre saying there 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: has been a significant a significant drop in the illegals 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: coming into the country. 22 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: I will remind you that Congressional Republicans just voted literally, 23 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 3: they just voted a few weeks ago, a month ago 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 3: for the biggest border security cut in history, the biggest 25 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: cut in history when it came to the Default on 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: America Act. 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: That's what that was. 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: Part of that act was to cut border security, and 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 3: that's what they voted on. And meanwhile, what this president 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: has done, he has secured record funding for border security. 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: He has record number of agents and officers securing our border, 32 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: and is implementing policies that have resulted in significant drop 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 3: and unlawful border crossing since Title forty two. That is 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: what the President has done. 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 2: So that's their version of it. Keep in mind that 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: funding more border patrol agents and in this case, funding 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: a lot more processes for allowing people to legally enter 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: the starry, to illegally enter the country and stay in 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: the country is what the Biden administration is all about. 40 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: Tom Homan was the ICE director for a while Immigrations 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: and Customs Enforcement under Trump. Here's what he says about 42 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: the Biden administration's client. 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 5: As we're speaking right now, there are over ten thousand 44 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 5: illegal inlians enter this country every day. But whether this 45 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 5: administration is done, they took up a population about six thousand. 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 5: Rather than coming between the ports of entries illegally, they're 47 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: moving through a porta entry, which are going to lose 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 5: in court because that's illegal too. The pro statute is 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 5: clear a pro must be on a case by case 50 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 5: basis depending on the facts that specific case. They're not 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 5: doing that. In the twenty States of All lawsuit, they 52 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 5: will win this. Then this administration, once again their policy 53 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 5: is going to be proven illegal. So this is show 54 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 5: game they're lying to the American people. The numbers on 55 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 5: board have not solowed down a bit. 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: They are lying what they're doing as they're moving people. 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: As Holman said, there from just illegally crossing to going 58 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: to the ports of entry, showing up and then pulling 59 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: the same I want asylum in your country game that 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: they've been doing all along the Biden administration. Effectively making 61 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: entry easier. That seems to be the primary goal that 62 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: they have. So Ron DeSantis yesterday roll this out ending 63 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: just look at some of these ending birthright, citizenship, finish, 64 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: building the southern border wall, US forces to Mexico to 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: combat drug cartels, and a few other things. Oh, using 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: lethal force on cartel members if they do not stop 67 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: and they're trying to traffic drugs into the country. He 68 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 2: mentioned that as well, what do you think I love 69 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: ending birthright citizenship. 70 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 4: I think it is the single most important thing that 71 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: we could do to curtail much of the legal immigration. 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: To me, Buck, you really have to ask yourself, Okay, 73 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: why does illegal immigration exist? Number one, it's because people 74 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: can have a better quality of life even as non 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: citizens working in the United States than they can in 76 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: most countries around the world. So there is always going 77 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: to be an economic draw to get illegal immigrants here 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 4: because there are jobs that illegal immigrants can do, and 79 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: those jobs, even if they aren't great jobs, pay far 80 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: more than the jobs that people could do in other countries. 81 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: So that is a hard incentive to eliminate, right, because 82 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 4: it actually reflects the dynamic success of capitalism in this country, 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 4: which creates so many jobs that frankly, a lot of 84 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 4: Americans don't do them. What are there right now, open, Buck, 85 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 4: ten million jobs or something in America that people could 86 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 4: feel that jobs are hiring for in theory, Okay, So 87 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: that's a hard issue to address because basically the Jobs 88 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 4: Act does a magnet to draw people who want to 89 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 4: work hard to this country. The second one, though, is 90 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: something that must occur. We have to end birthright citizenship 91 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 4: in this country. And there are a lot of people 92 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: that haven't looked at this, Buck, But there are two 93 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 4: different types of citizenship. One is a birthright by blood right. 94 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 4: That is, if you are the son or daughter of 95 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: a citizen, then you should be a citizen. I think 96 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 4: everybody understands and agrees with that. But the second one 97 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: birthright by soil. If you are born on United States soil, 98 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 4: even if your parents are here illegally, you become a citizen. Heck, 99 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 4: if your parents are Chinese and they decide that they 100 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 4: want to they're wealthy enough to be able to travel here, 101 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: you can become an American citizen and then go back 102 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: to China and you never actually lived in this country 103 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: at all. We have to end it, and Buck, do 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 4: you know why this even exists? Do you know why 105 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: birthright by soil state citizenship even exists? 106 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: Well, I know historically the courts have never addressed directly 107 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: the issue, so. 108 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: But do you know why historically it even became a thing. 109 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 4: I went and did all the research on this because 110 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 4: I was fascinated by it. Tell Us the reason was 111 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: during the colonization period, because if you were, let's say, 112 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: from Spain and you went to the New World, there 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 4: was a concern that your kids would not have Spanish citizenship. 114 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: So they tried to encourage the colonization of North and 115 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 4: South America by allowing you to be a citizen. Even 116 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: if your kids were born in you know, Brazil. Back 117 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 4: in the day, you would in theory, I think i'm correct, 118 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 4: still be Portuguese. And now obviously all these countries have independence, 119 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: so it doesn't make sense. In fact, I believe i'm 120 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 4: correct of this. Of the group of seven nations, the 121 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: seven biggest economies in the world, I think only Canada 122 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: and the United States have birthright by soil citizenship. Doesn't 123 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: exist in Japan, doesn't exist in most of Europe, doesn't 124 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: exist certainly in China. This is an anachronism and it 125 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 4: shouldn't exist, and almost no one even talks about it. 126 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: I love the fact that this is a topic. The 127 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: reason that it has to be dealt with is because otherwise, 128 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 2: to your point about particularly Chinese birth tourism, which is prosecutable, 129 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 2: it is a They do sometimes go after these birth 130 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: hotels that are specifically set up so that Chinese nationals 131 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 2: can come to this country, have a child here, go 132 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 2: to US hospital, taxpayer expense, have the baby, and then 133 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: eighteen years later they can say, oh, I want to 134 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: go to UCLA. I'm an American citizen. Yeah, And that's 135 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 2: the game. That's what they do. That's not the way 136 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: our society is supposed to work. That's not the way 137 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: that we think of immigration. And you know the processes 138 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: by which people become attached to the nation state, to 139 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: their to their polity, if you will. But Rohn dea 140 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: Santis said, this stuff interesting that a lot of people 141 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: are pointing out will hole on. It sounds a lot 142 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 2: like what Trump said back in twenty sixteen, and Ron 143 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: was at the border and he brought this part up 144 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: to play it. 145 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 6: I was shocked when they were telling me that Obama's 146 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 6: first four years had more deportations than Trump's term, which 147 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 6: is incredible that that would be the case. And so 148 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 6: that never came to fruition. Obviously, you know, you did 149 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 6: have some wall built, but not nearly enough in terms 150 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 6: of that, and I don't think they even started doing it, 151 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 6: you know, for a number of years going forward. So 152 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 6: I think a lot of the things he's saying, you know, 153 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 6: I agree with but I also think those are the 154 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 6: same things that were said back in twenty sixteen. And 155 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 6: here's the thing. We're not getting a mulligan on this one. Okay, 156 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 6: we either win the election or this is never going 157 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 6: to be fixed. And then once you get in there, 158 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 6: you either fix it, because if you don't fix it 159 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 6: this time, you know, I don't think it's ever going 160 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 6: to get done. 161 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: And a few points here, with more and more legals 162 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: coming into the country, the chance of dealing with illegal 163 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: immigration in a way that isn't just mass amnesty get 164 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: smaller and smaller. So this isn't a situation where the clock, 165 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 2: if you will, is on the side of sovereignty. Four 166 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: more years of Biden would make the likelihood of a 167 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: mass amnesty much much higher. And even Republicans will just 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: start to say, well, I mean, it's you know, it's 169 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: twenty five million. What are we gonna do. We're gonna 170 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: just have to let everybody stay who came to the 171 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: country illegally. But it's interesting to see as well. I'm 172 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: hearing Trump pro Trump people at the I don't even 173 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: like that term. Trump voters in the primary say he's 174 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: just copying Trump. DeSantis people in the primary is saying, yeah, 175 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: but DeSantis will actually do it. We'll see if that 176 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: actually catches on. 177 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 4: Trump's policies were oftentimes very much correct. It seems to 178 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: me what DeSantis is trying to argue is he's a 179 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 4: more competent version of Trump. Remains to be seen, right, 180 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: But the DeSantis selling point is. 181 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 2: It it's an interesting. 182 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: Needle to kind of or to thread here, right, because 183 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: you don't want to alienate Trump supporters if you are 184 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 4: running to be president of the United States and the 185 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: Republican primary, so you can endorse Trump policies and then 186 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: just try to argue, hey, but unlike Trump, I'll be 187 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 4: more efficient in implementing many of the policies because I 188 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: do think ninety eight percent of the people that are 189 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 4: listening to us right now, that's a random number that 190 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 4: I just made up, but I say it's about right 191 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: agree with almost all of Trump policies. I think it's 192 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: very hard to attack Trump on policy because I think 193 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 4: he gets to the right conclusion most of the time. 194 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 4: Where I think you can attack Trump is he's a 195 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: bull in a china shop getting there. So people like 196 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: Trump results they don't necessarily like the process by which 197 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 4: Trump gets there, and I think oftentimes buck where Trump 198 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 4: opens himself up to attack is not his final result. 199 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: It's that he's again the bull in the China shop, 200 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 4: breaking things left and right which don't actually directly relate 201 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 4: to where he's getting to. 202 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? I think that. 203 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: I think ninety eight percent of our listeners would agree 204 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,599 Speaker 4: with that. And some people would say, well, that's necessary 205 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 4: for him to be the bull in the china shop 206 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: because so much is broken in America. You've got to 207 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 4: move fast, and sometimes you're going to break things. And 208 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: I understand that argument too, But it seems to me 209 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 4: that DeSantis is trying to thread the needle of arguing 210 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: many of the policies are correct. I will actually do 211 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 4: a better job, however, implementing policies. 212 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: He's the process guy. Here's one other part of the 213 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: conversation from yesterday that I thought was interesting that was new, 214 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 2: which is to create a framework for allowing states to 215 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: deport people themselves, which would mean that Texas and Arizona 216 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: and Florida wherever could be right. What we have right 217 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: now is really the almost the nullification of immigration law 218 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: by all the sanctuary jurisdictions across the country. They will 219 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: not work with federal law enforcement in a lot of states, 220 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: in a lot of places, California will not help immigrations 221 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 2: and customs enforcement at all. Right, state law enforcement and 222 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: if anything, they'll stand in the way. Here Ron DeSantis 223 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: is saying, this is from yesterday. We got to let 224 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: states that want to, like Texas, deport people who are 225 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: there illegally. 226 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 7: If the federal government won't do its job, the states 227 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 7: should be permitted to send people back. 228 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: That is what you need to do. 229 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 7: Basically, they say, you know, states can intrude on the 230 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 7: federal government's prerogative to enforce immigration because immigration is a 231 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 7: federal issue. But if the Feds have the responsibility to 232 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 7: do immigration and they decide to just not do it, 233 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 7: then are we just helpless and we don't have the 234 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 7: laws enforced at all? And so I think the states 235 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 7: have a role to play. I can tell you as president, 236 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 7: we are gonna fully deputize all state and local governments 237 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 7: to be able to enforce immigration law. 238 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 2: You will be able to have that authority. Federal LA 239 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 2: enforcement saying, hey, state law enforcement could use the hand 240 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: what you need. There is a Republican administration that's willing 241 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: to do that from the top down. 242 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 4: So it is interesting, Buck that you can put guys 243 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: on buses and planes and take them to other parts 244 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: of the United States, Right, Texas sending people to Chicago, 245 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 4: New York City, DC, but you're not allowed to actually 246 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 4: send them out of the country. Isn't it just to 247 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 4: kind of think about, like the state has the authority 248 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: to move within the states, but you couldn't put them 249 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 4: on a plane and send them back. I think that's 250 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 4: a really I'm not sure it's constitutional, but I think 251 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: it's a really interesting argument by DeSantis. 252 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: Our friend Dutch Mendenhall, the CEO of RAD Diversified and 253 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: the founder of the RAD is now the author of 254 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: a new book, Money Shackles. What are money shackles? Well, 255 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: these shackles represent the financial hamstrings that Americans have fought with. 256 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: Go to school, get in debt, buy a car, get 257 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: in debt. Dutch believes it's the wrong thoughts and the 258 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: wrong teachings. 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I believe is the rough time stamps there. 277 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: Do you think Epstein committed suicide by himself? 278 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: I think that there is a chance that he was 279 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: allowed to commit suicide if you catch what I'm because 280 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: let's start with this. The Manhattan Correctional Facility where he 281 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: was the MCC had never had a suicide before, never once, 282 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: and then they have held like Cartel Boss is there, 283 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: and you know, you know, the worst of the worst 284 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: have been held in this federal facility in Lower Manhattan, 285 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: never and the guy who, more than anyone else, it 286 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: would seem to have the ability to destroy some of 287 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: the most powerful people on the planet, those that he 288 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: was blackmailing and had in some way, you know, either 289 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: in trapped or videotaped or whatever, doing illicit things with 290 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: of a sexual nature. It's hard. What do you think 291 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like they're asking you to believe 292 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: a lot, to believe this is the first time that 293 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: this ever happened when it was this guy. And then 294 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: there's all the other coincidences that pile up. I talked 295 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: about the FBI leaving the tapes this after Epstein died, 296 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: leaving the tapes, Oh, we can't take those, And then 297 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: they have to come back a few days later the 298 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 2: tapes aren't there. This is at his Manhattan house and 299 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: they have to say, hey, can you bring the tapes back? Like, really, guys, 300 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 301 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: I think they killed him. You're just going for it, 302 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 4: I do. I just I mean, nothing in the Epstein 303 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: case makes sense. 304 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: Buck. 305 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense that the only person to get 306 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 4: prosecuted in the whole Epstein thing is Julaane Maxwell or whatever, 307 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 4: you know, like his pimp as they called her. All 308 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: of the relationships that he had, all of the evidence 309 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: that he had, the weird you know, he's got a 310 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 4: painting of Bill Clinton and high heels in his I mean, 311 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: there's a lot of really weird stories out there. I 312 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 4: just don't believe the Black Book never comes out. 313 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: So, I mean, I think that there were I think 314 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of cover up of Jeffrey Epstein, 315 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 2: no question about it. I think that there's been complicity 316 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: on the part of law enforcement, no question about it. 317 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: When you say, did you know did they turn a 318 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: blind eye to him knowing that it was time to 319 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: off himself? That I can definitely see. Did someone sneak 320 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: in there when the cameras were out, which they were, 321 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: and do it maybe? I think so? 322 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 4: I think so that's pretty terrifying. Thot Well, no doubt, 323 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 4: it is a mess to think about. But you know 324 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: what's not a mess Our friends at MyPillow. 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Congressman first time the show. 343 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 8: Welcome, Oh my gosh, thank y'all for having the really 344 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 8: appreciate it any time, and again, I really thank y'all 345 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 8: for having me on. 346 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for joining us, and thank 347 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: you for your service. You know, we've been talking a 348 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 2: lot about the Hunter Biden situation, and I think you've 349 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: been pretty vocal from what I understand about the double 350 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: standard and the special treatment. Tell us where you come 351 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 2: down on all this, Well. 352 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 8: Well, Mark, I'm down. This is very simple. I've been 353 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 8: talking weeks and weeks and weeks about there being a 354 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 8: clear two tier justice system, and I've been saying this 355 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 8: every single week. I cannot imagine the reactions country would 356 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 8: have and the reaction people would have if this were 357 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 8: Donald John Trump Junior behaving in this world. The one 358 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 8: thing that really strikes me as being interesting is you 359 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 8: have Hunter Biden that gets a sweetheart deal because of 360 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 8: tax evasion and because of clear gun charges. And this 361 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 8: is happening to black people and has been happening to 362 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 8: black people across America for decades. That the Democrat Party 363 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 8: claims that they are the party of the minority, that 364 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 8: they are the party of black people, They claim that 365 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 8: they hate white privilege and all this stuff. But yet 366 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 8: when it is a white Democrat who clearly has privilege 367 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 8: because he is the son of a president that you 368 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 8: hear crickets when he does the exact same infractions. And 369 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 8: that hypocrisy, that two tiered system, really has me fired up. 370 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 8: I'm calling it out and I am sick of seeing it. 371 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 8: And when I was on just on a judiciary hearing 372 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 8: just last week, you know, I talked about this in 373 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 8: depth and the hypocrisy that we're seeing. The American public 374 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 8: is seeing it as well, and we're flout it's like 375 00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 8: set up with it. 376 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: We're talking right now with Congressman Wesley Hunt of Texas. 377 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: What do you think should happen? You're right, this clear 378 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: two tiers of justice. Hunter Biden is getting a sweetheart deal. 379 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 4: What should Congress do? Should there be an impeachment of 380 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 4: Merrick Garland, of Joe Biden? How should in your mind 381 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 4: this injustice be rectified? 382 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 8: Yes to all the above. And I think some of 383 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 8: these issues are going to be coming up to it 384 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 8: through our committee on the Judiciary Committee in the not 385 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 8: so distant future. I'll be honest with you, I do 386 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 8: not want to and teach Biden. I don't think that's 387 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,239 Speaker 8: politically expedient. Look at this week. President, this is the 388 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 8: worst polling president we've seen in modern history. He clearly 389 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 8: does not have the cognitive ability to do his job. 390 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 8: He is falling downstairs, he is shaking hands with air. 391 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 8: He is clearly in the early stages of dementia. I 392 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 8: want to run against this guy in twenty twenty four. 393 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 8: That's exactly the bastus that I want to see President 394 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 8: Trump say, feeble Joe Biden. However, they are leaving us 395 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 8: with no choice. This is one of the most corrupt 396 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,719 Speaker 8: families that we have seen in American history, and I 397 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 8: think impeachment absolutely has to be on the table. When 398 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 8: you talk about funneling ten million dollars through your son 399 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 8: to yourself, ten million dollars dest real money. Ten million 400 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 8: dollars is like nine million dollars, more than one million dollars. 401 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 8: That's a lot of money. We need to know where 402 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 8: that money came from. We can know why we're given 403 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 8: to your son, we can know who the big guy is. 404 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 8: And by the way, these are all rhetorical questions. We 405 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 8: know all these answers, but the sitting president should absolutely 406 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 8: be impeached for these types of infractions, and especially considering 407 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 8: that there was a witchhune against President Trump for four 408 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 8: years for way less. 409 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 2: We're speaking in Texas Congressman Wesley Hunt and a congressman's funny. 410 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 2: You started out saying I don't want to impeach Biden, 411 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 2: and then you went to explain what we have to right. 412 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just to be clear. You think that 413 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 2: that's where where the Congress, that's where the Congress should go. 414 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: Do you think that Speaker McCarthy is willing to go 415 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: forward with it? And does he have the votes if 416 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: he does, well, this is. 417 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 8: The discussion that we're going to be having over the 418 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 8: course of the next few months. And again, just to reiterate, 419 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 8: I don't want to appeach him for political reasons. I 420 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 8: think this is a lame president. This is one of 421 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 8: the worst presidents we have seen in modern history. It 422 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 8: is the guy that our run and one again. But 423 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 8: that does not mean that we shouldn't do the duty 424 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 8: of the American people. I think that the American public 425 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 8: wants us to impeach him. Well, Kevin McCarthy have the votes, 426 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 8: that's a good question. We have to let this whole 427 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 8: thing play out, and that's why we have the process. 428 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 8: The process of doing so usually coming up to the 429 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 8: Judiciary Committee and then we'll see where it goes from there. 430 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 4: Congressman, you're a black Republican, I'm sure you get tired 431 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: of being referred to as a black Republican. White guys 432 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: like Buck and I can be Democrats or Republicans. Nobody 433 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: ever really uses the race to define what we believe politically. 434 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: It has to happen for the black community the same 435 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 4: thing to occur with the white community, where there is 436 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 4: a total openness to political belief regardless of the color 437 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 4: of your skin. And do you see that changing or 438 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 4: when you see attacks like Barack Obama? I'm sure you 439 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 4: saw came after Tim Scott. We had Tim Scott on 440 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: to talk about it. Even Joy Behar tried to say 441 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 4: what a black guy could or could not believe? What 442 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 4: do you see out there? Are you optimistic? Are things changing? 443 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: How does that change occur? 444 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 8: People like me have got to continued to speak up 445 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 8: and talk about the hypocrisy from the left and talk 446 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 8: about how our party is the party of a meritocracy. 447 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 8: Let me tell you about my district, Progressive District thirty 448 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 8: eight in Houston, Texas. It's a white majority district, it's 449 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 8: a district that President Trump would have won by twenty 450 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 8: three points. And the last primary I ran against nine 451 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 8: white guys and beat them all by thirty points. And 452 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 8: a general election, I ran against a white Democrat and 453 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 8: beat him by thirty points. And do you know why? 454 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 8: Because I was the most qualified person. And when I 455 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 8: hear Democrats talk all day about d and I and 456 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 8: diversity of this and diversity, that the first thing they 457 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 8: should be talking about is who is the most qualified person. 458 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 8: I think we can get around this because when you're 459 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 8: looking at what Joe Biden claims to be the most 460 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 8: diverse cabinet we've seen in American history, they're also the 461 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 8: most failed cabinet in US history. And we'll get to 462 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 8: the point to where in this country do we want 463 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 8: a meritocracy moving forward in the future. Are doing not, sir? 464 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 8: I got here because I'm a West Point graduate. I 465 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 8: earned three master's degrees in four years from Cornell University. 466 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 8: I'm an a pastor, a helicopter pilot. I served my 467 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 8: country in combat, and that's why the people of Houston 468 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 8: picked me to be their congressman. They could care less 469 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 8: about the way I look, and I love the way 470 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 8: how you started this. You're right, I don't like talking 471 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 8: about race that much because, quite frankly, I'm an American first. 472 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 8: I'm a husband, I'm a father, I'm a veteran, I'm 473 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 8: a west Point graduate. Congressman, we can keep going and going, 474 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 8: and by the time I get the black guy, I've 475 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 8: run out of fingers. But what we must do is 476 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 8: continue to talk about why we have qualified people of 477 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 8: color on our side that could be good leaders for 478 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 8: the future, and how we pick the best people based 479 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 8: on their merit, not based on the way they look. 480 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: And Congressman, we wanted to ask you also, I know 481 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 2: that you're interested in as we're going to the Independence 482 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: Day weekend coming up, just the concept of American pride. Yes, 483 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 2: so you. 484 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 8: Could imagine somebody like me love this country. This is 485 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 8: the greatest country in the world. I'm a west Point graduate, 486 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 8: my brother is a west Point graduate, my sister is 487 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 8: a west Point graduate. My dad's a retired colonel in 488 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 8: the Army. My dad taught us in this country, you 489 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 8: could be whatever you want in America if you have 490 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 8: hard work, great determination, and yeah, you're gonna have some 491 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 8: tough times, but America is the greatest place in the world. 492 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 8: So if we have a month like Black History Month, 493 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 8: then I don't mind celebrating Hell, I'm a black guy, 494 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 8: but that and here's the only thirteen percent of the population. 495 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 8: If we just had Pride Month last week, that's listen, 496 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 8: center percent of the population that that's about. If we 497 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 8: have a woman's month in March, which is half our population, 498 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 8: you know what, how about we have a month celebrating America. 499 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 8: That's everybody in this country. Let's celebrate our progress. Let's 500 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 8: celebrate how far we've come. And while we are not perfect, 501 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 8: this is still the greatest country in the world. And 502 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 8: we should be in the business of teaching our children 503 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 8: why that's the case, so we can build on this 504 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 8: progress moving forward. If we can give a month to 505 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 8: all these other causes, I don't understand why we can't 506 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 8: give a month to old Glory. And I want to 507 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 8: see butt Light and I want to see Target, and 508 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 8: I want to see all these other WOP corporations wave 509 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 8: Old Glory in the same way they're waving the gay 510 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 8: ride flag. And I want to know how patriotic are you? 511 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 8: Do you really believe in America? Do you believe in patriotism? 512 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 8: And if you're not well to expose you. 513 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 2: Love it. Congressman, appreciate you being with us here. Thank 514 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 2: you for joining us on the program. 515 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 8: Eighty times. 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I thought there with 550 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: Congressman from Texas, Wesley Hurd As we were just breaking 551 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: down everything with him, and it raises the larger question 552 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 4: right which I think is a fascinating one of to 553 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: what degree, Buck, do you think the sweetheart deal that 554 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 4: Hunter Biden got is cutting through that's Wesley Hunt, by 555 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: the way, cutting through the overall treatment of. 556 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: The criminal justice system in general. 557 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 4: Is this something that if you are a casual person 558 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 4: out there, that you are noting this sweetheart deal? Or 559 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: do you think most people aren't paying attention at all 560 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 4: to what's going on with the Hunter Biden mess? Because 561 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 4: this ties in with how I think Congress should respond. 562 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't think it really. I hate saying this. It 563 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: reminds me of being the guy I was, the annoying 564 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: guy saying Benghazi hearings are going nowhere. Anyone's like, no, oh, 565 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: I've seen Trey Goudy. He's pounding. He's like, I'm more, 566 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 2: I guess the answers like he's pounding the table. Yeah, 567 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 2: And I'm like, it doesn't matter because Obama's president and 568 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: nothing's going to happen, right, So do I think that 569 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden thing is going to move the needle, 570 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: notably with the American people? Honestly know, because of all 571 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 2: the noise about Trump and everything else. I here's what 572 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 2: I here's what I would say, if we think that 573 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: the that the Biden corruption issue is going to deliver 574 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: us the election, we are mistaken. That's my that's I'd 575 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: be willing to say that, right, as gross as it is, 576 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: because all the Democrats completely exclude It's like being excluded 577 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: from evidence in court. Right, They're like, we don't care. 578 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: Trump is you know, worse than Hitler and he's being 579 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: indicted you know, a million times, and he's gonna go 580 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: to prison for the next three hundred years, and that's 581 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: all they care about. And then so it's really persuaded, 582 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: like do you think a single Democrat who voted for 583 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: Biden last time around? It is like, well, now that 584 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 2: I know that Hunter got all this money, no, I 585 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: don't think so to independence. This is, you know, we're 586 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: in a primary, so we're focused very much on what 587 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 2: the two sides think. The people that are standing in 588 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: the middle, that one or two percent of voter, one 589 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: percent of voters that are going to determine probably who 590 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: the next president is. It's going to be how it 591 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 2: makes them feel to cast that vote, depending on how 592 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: the economy is doing and what you know. It's just 593 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: so hard to get ahead of it. But like Should 594 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: this be the end for the Biden regime, Yes, will 595 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: it be absolutely not. It will not be the end. 596 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: Again, I said yesterday, I don't think he's gonna end 597 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 4: up running. We'll see if if I am correct on that, 598 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 4: But I would say this is why primetime hearings have 599 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: to happen. 600 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: This is why we need to have. 601 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: An impeachment I think of both Attorney General Merrick Garland 602 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 4: and also of a Joe Biden, and then we need 603 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: to have primetime hearings because Buck, as much as I 604 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 4: hate to admit that it worked, I think the primetime 605 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: hearings on January sixth motivated enough middle of the road 606 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: voters that we forestalled the full red wave. Now we 607 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 4: got a red wave in Florida, we got a red 608 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 4: wave to a large extent in New York, but didn't 609 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 4: spread everywhere. And I think that was for two reasons. 610 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 4: One abortion, which I think Republicans are going to have 611 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: to get better talking about, and the other one was 612 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 4: that lingering January sixth, the attack against democracy. You and 613 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: me and most of our listeners out there agree that 614 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: this has been wildly overhyped, and that everything that they've 615 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 4: tried to do to brand January sixth as the worst 616 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 4: thing to happen to the country. I mean since the 617 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 4: Civil War. That's not even hyperbole. That's what Joe Biden 618 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 4: himself has said, and that's what Karine Jean Pierre said. 619 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: Buck it worked with. 620 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 4: Enough middle of the road voters, and I think just 621 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 4: enough people, and it may only be one hundred thousand 622 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 4: people that really matter. They put on the January sixth 623 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 4: hearings based on the precedent, they would have to cover 624 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 4: the impeachment proceedings, and they would have to cover some 625 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 4: of the primetime impeachment proceedings, and I think that could 626 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 4: cut through the noise because if you're an MSNBC viewer, 627 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 4: if you're a New York Times reader, if you're a 628 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 4: CNN viewer Washington Post, you really are not well informed 629 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 4: about anything having to do with the Biden crime family. 630 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: And I think there are millions of people who would 631 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 4: be impacted that simply don't know about these stories. 632 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 2: I also think that at a time when we're being 633 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: told that Trump should be unfofficial, they've said he's unfit 634 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 2: for a million different things, and so it just turns 635 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: into just more noise. But now they're saying he's unfit. 636 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: When I say they, you know Democrats, there's claiming he's 637 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 2: unfit because of his handle of classified documents. How many 638 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 2: tens of millions of Democrats voted for Hillary Clinton in 639 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen, A lot of them. I mean, they won 640 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: the popular vote, not that that's what the contest is about, 641 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: but they didn't care. They didn't care Hillary c What 642 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton did was so obviously reckless, and it didn't 643 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 2: stop any Democrats that seemed from voting for her. At 644 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 2: least nobody was willing to come out and say, oh, 645 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 2: I can't because of the emails. So now we're all 646 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 2: supposed to care so much on our side about the 647 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 2: handling of these documents after Trump left office, when he's 648 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 2: probably going back into office like that's his mentality. It's 649 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: just not going to move the needle. Do you want 650 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: to get a couple of these calls before you know, 651 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 2: let's do it. We haven't taken any calls a spring Hill, 652 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: Florida Bob, he got some thoughts. 653 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 9: Hi, guys, listen to you all the time. I actually 654 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 9: think we should impeach Joe Biden. It's not going to 655 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 9: go through the Senate, but at least to reveal Network News. 656 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 9: I love Ron de Santas, He's a great governor, but 657 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 9: he needs to stop criticizing Trump because Trump could have 658 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 9: finished the wall if Pelosi had to give him the money. 659 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 9: Pelosi hung up the money. 660 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 2: Well, he had a majority of the first two years 661 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: in office, though, So who stopped him from doing the wall? Then? 662 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, but they didn't back him up. The wishy washy 663 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 9: Republicans didn't back him. 664 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 2: Well, that's what you said, Pelosi. I'm saying, you know, 665 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 2: it was Republicans. He had a majority in the House 666 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 2: and a majority in the Senate. So if he wasn't 667 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 2: going to get it done, then that's what you know. 668 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: What Ron is saying is what's different? And that's a 669 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: fair I'm asking the question too, what's different? You know what? 670 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 4: I think this goes to the challenge of impeachment. Some 671 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: people are saying we need to have a discussion about this, 672 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 4: Should we or should we not? With Biden and with 673 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 4: Meryck Garland, my answer is yes, And I told you 674 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 4: because the politics, I'm with you. I think we impeach. Absolutely, 675 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 4: go take it to the mat. But are the votes 676 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 4: there to actually impeach? But the embarrassing thing. 677 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 2: It's not Assarid. 678 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,439 Speaker 4: The embarrassing thing would be to try to impeach Buck. 679 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,919 Speaker 4: Try to impeach Buck. That'll be embarrassing. Hopefully that doesn't happen. 680 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 4: To impeach Biden, and then the Republicans aren't united because 681 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 4: there isn't a lot of leeway given the margin in 682 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,760 Speaker 4: the House. 683 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: One thing we'd like to say about Clay and Buck 684 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: is that no matter what, we find ourselves unimpeachable