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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast congratulates Dan on his honorary

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Speaker 1: doctorate in philanthropy from Tulane University.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I mean that one, Greg, I understand that

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Speaker 2: might annoy you Tulane now.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm glad that you're mentioned in the Green

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Speaker 3: Wave on the eve of their AAC AAC Championship appearance.

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Speaker 3: Everyone watched that this week, thig.

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Speaker 2: One sure from the Chris Westley podcast studio. It's Around

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Yes, I am Dan Hansis. I will be

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Speaker 2: speaking at Tulane later this spring. Greg Rosenthal a graduate,

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Speaker 2: he might accompany me. We might have a trip down

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Speaker 2: to Nola together. And Mark Sessler. It is the Week

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Speaker 2: My Goodness thirteen preview episode How It Flies.

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Speaker 4: Mark, We've got that honorary football that you received, you know,

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Speaker 4: citing your philanthropic nature right over there at the window,

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Speaker 4: and you and I walked by the window and it

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Speaker 4: is very visible your name closed through the window. And

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of tour groups of students that by

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Speaker 4: this studio gonna just think more highly of you than

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Speaker 4: they already do.

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Speaker 2: I thought of going on Amazon and getting one of

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Speaker 2: those you plug it in. It's an arrow that's like

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Speaker 2: pointing at the ball and blinking. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: that's a cost concern. If it's manageable financially, I might

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Speaker 2: just do it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean you you went on and on about,

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Speaker 4: you know, having all this being done in secret and quiet,

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Speaker 5: Of well, now that it's out there, you know, might

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 6: Might as well.

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Speaker 3: Have we heard from any listener who knows how we

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Speaker 3: got this ball?

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Speaker 6: Nobody knows.

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Speaker 2: Nobody knows, but one day maybe we'll get to the

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Speaker 2: bottom of it. Or maybe I did do something and

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Speaker 2: I just don't know it. So you have to factor

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Speaker 2: in everything here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, spread a wide net with your good your good doing.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's like fight club, except your your other identity

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Speaker 3: is doing good deeds for young business groups?

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Speaker 6: Is it? Business groups?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 6: All right, So we got so much to get to.

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Speaker 2: This is a big week, and we kind of teased

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Speaker 2: the regular season. And there's so much at stake and

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Speaker 2: so much more to learn about these teams, and it

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Speaker 6: It's not a.

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Speaker 5: Killer slate, the primetime games.

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Speaker 2: There's a there's a great primetime game. That's a great

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Speaker 2: late game. The game the slate itself not great, but

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Speaker 2: we're gonna learn, gonna learn more about our league by

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Speaker 2: Sunday night. So let's talk about these games. So let's

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Speaker 2: start with one of those stellar games on the schedule,

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Speaker 2: a game that didn't look like it was gonna be

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Speaker 5: But things have changed. The Packers have changed.

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Speaker 2: Coming off a great Thursday Thanksgiving performance against the Lions

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love is playing at a much higher level. They

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Speaker 2: are in some ways a mysterious team, at least on

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Speaker 6: Read side of it, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: But it's the defensive side that we are pretty confident

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Speaker 2: Big big challenge here for Love. I think we're gonna

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Speaker 4: The Packers, to me are I came into the season

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Speaker 4: Jordan lun thing doesn't look so hot, right.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this, like I asked you specifically, right,

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Speaker 4: I thought, what happened on Thanksgiving and the way that

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Speaker 5: It's in Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: I love that for the Packers, but Jordan Love is

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Speaker 4: gonna face a real test here and if he can

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a young team, the youngest offense playing a

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Speaker 3: was this great fascination, Wow, what is this gonna look like?

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is hurt, Jordan Love's gonna come in, He's

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Speaker 3: I think he looks like an NFL quarterback. Now he

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Speaker 3: But the thing I like are his eyes. Like his

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Speaker 3: through his progressions, he goes one two that he runs.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't run enough. I would say, like I would

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Speaker 3: I've said all along is pretty good. A couple weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: You got Jayden Reid who's been a little out of practice,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, like, man if Patrick Mahomes had Jaden Reid,

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Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs, Like they've got three receive rices like of

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Speaker 2: Rather, Yeah, I'm really interested to see as we again

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Speaker 2: we talked about it what matters in the last five weeks,

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Speaker 2: you could definitely say that about the Chiefs and their

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Speaker 2: this is just like kind of reflexive after years and

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Speaker 6: All kind of there still, including a running game.

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Speaker 5: So I think this is a spot where you could

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Speaker 5: not be surprised if you do get a big Packers

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Speaker 5: I like the Chiefs a lot in this game. I

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Speaker 5: guess I'll put it that way that I do see

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Speaker 5: as the Chiefs that we know.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I think the the Rashi Rice like development

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Speaker 4: all sorts of angles tells you, this is a is

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Speaker 4: a different offense than what we could rely on the past.

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Speaker 4: They don't have that explosive downfield element. I mean, they've

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Speaker 4: And I think there's a little bit of question about

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Speaker 5: But they can run the ball with in a way

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Speaker 3: I like that they know what they haven't Pacheco, and

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Speaker 3: they used them more in the receiving game last week.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs, by the way, are favored by six in

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Speaker 3: this game, Itch, and the over under is forty two

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Speaker 3: and a half, relatively low. Man. I love the Packers,

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Speaker 3: easy to say now getting seven and a half last

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Speaker 3: week against the Lines, and I think six is too

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Speaker 3: much too. I think this might be the hardest game

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs have left on the schedule. If they win this,

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Speaker 3: they might keep winning. I think the Packers got a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, call a hunch.

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Speaker 2: Rashat hunches have been off this year, but I just

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Speaker 4: The six feel a little absurd considering what we've seen

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Speaker 5: In Green Bay over the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: No third is strong.

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Speaker 2: I mean, are we now seeing Green Bay as one

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Speaker 2: of the top teams in the league. It's just, you know,

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Speaker 2: they're on a nice little heater in the quarterbacks playing.

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Speaker 3: One and for all that.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to take anything away from it.

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Speaker 3: I just said it seems a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: slap in the same for the Chief struggles a little offensively,

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Speaker 3: like efficiency wise, success rate, all that stuff. There's still

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Speaker 2: What you also like Mahomes is, you know, you could

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Speaker 3: They're too valuable, because, like I'll be doing this game

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Speaker 4: They're set up with because the Bengals issues at this

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Speaker 3: Lost not just Joe Burrows season, but Chase like Higgins

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Speaker 2: Jake Browning, to the point we're making at the top

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Speaker 2: And it also gets at the point when people get

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Speaker 2: make it flag football or mark You'll be like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I do say that every Sunday. I'm saying that.

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Speaker 2: Highly retrograde commentary. But this is why, because we don't

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, who will hear a lot. I just can

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Speaker 3: we're talking about him. He's been fantastic, maybe the best

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Speaker 3: the show? What is this gonna be? Browning be talking?

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Speaker 7: It's time for the latest edition of Dan's Media Minute.

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Speaker 5: I don't remember the script, but close that sounds right.

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Speaker 2: I don't need and listen, we're all dealing with all

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Speaker 2: But I don't need And I believe it was on ESPN,

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Speaker 2: it obviously, the major networks do it these pregame shows. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna do a fawning feature on Jake Browning and

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Speaker 2: how awesome he was in high school. Oh, Jake brown

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Speaker 2: E set every record ever at his high school and men.

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are gonna be okay with a deep, deep,

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Speaker 2: I I just want to say, toned down, tone down

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Speaker 3: And that's it's really fair, I would imagine, you know that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's about like I just like I have not seen

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Speaker 4: I watched I watched it on Sunday morning. This will

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Speaker 4: you know, back the truck up and remove it from

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Speaker 4: the rundown tough spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's another here's my new here's my mast headquarters,

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Speaker 3: there's scrambling hands. This is on to us, So we

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Speaker 4: The other move, which I've found to be successful, is

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Speaker 3: For the people that do watch, in the producers that

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Speaker 5: I'll give you one more other little media nugget.

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Speaker 4: You want to wow, it's not a minute, it's just

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Speaker 4: you know, our picks have been just absolutely out of

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Speaker 3: Here, you've got a thirty three. This is an audio medium,

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Speaker 3: a thirty three nothing victory for the last week. Keep backwards,

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Speaker 3: say you keep saying you guys are on fire. It's tight,

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Speaker 3: it's great. They list ten people that are predicting, and

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Speaker 4: You're not in the top five, so well, no, totally

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Speaker 4: acknowledge that. Actually we discussed this your text thread with Spice.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's a comeback story. He was brought in

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Speaker 3: He is the Chris Tabor to your Frank Reich. And

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Speaker 3: you did, just to make it clare, I'm still in

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Speaker 3: and that's been our only loss Brown, the only loss

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Speaker 6: So the date, a lot of the data is conflicting

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Speaker 4: Yes, and the producer I sent it to said that

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Speaker 4: it's the most entertaining portion of his week because they're

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Speaker 6: That sounds entertaining someone.

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Speaker 5: Well, Spice racks blowing up to me.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if I'm going to be getting personal

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you were. You guys, at least you were outraged.

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Speaker 6: You guys, at least do something in this competition.

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Speaker 3: Get to the top five out of ten. It's only

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: I love I love this. I love this segment, but

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Speaker 2: it's got to sing with winners. You guys got to

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Speaker 5: If we cracked top five, I'm allowed to text you

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Speaker 5: with three what's up?

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Speaker 6: Three?

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Speaker 3: Top five?

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Speaker 2: We get a bronze medal out of this top five text?

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Speaker 2: All right, five out of ten? All right, let's take

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Speaker 2: All right, we are back and yes, with the primetime

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Speaker 2: it's time now for the first overall pick presented by

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Speaker 2: Draft Things and Greggy, you are on the clock.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am taking the game of the week, one

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Speaker 3: of the most exciting games of the year. The forty

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Speaker 6: The Sharks get it. They understand what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Sanahan says, I I don't understand that they actually

439
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Speaker 3: asked them about it, because the players are all talking

440
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 3: and Deebo Samuel saying James Baird Bradbury's trash. I like

441
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 3: that we need a little more of that. That's just

442
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 3: literally saying this guy's trash. There's like a lot of

443
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 3: elements of that in this game. Like a pro bowler,

444
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,399
Speaker 3: you know, who's had made a lot of money in

445
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,679
Speaker 3: his career. James Bradbury said propreer, James, He's trash.

446
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Speaker 2: It is funny how it shifts the vernacular through the

447
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,159
Speaker 2: years because when we were coming of age, it was.

448
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Speaker 6: That guy sucks. Now it's like that guy's trash.

449
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh yeah, they were trash. They were bad.

450
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Speaker 5: Trash. Is like I think I like it more. It's

451
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 5: a little more for a little profane in retrospect, sucks.

452
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Speaker 3: I agree my kids and young kids and I'm like,

453
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Speaker 3: why is this allowed? In some other words are not.

454
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 3: I'm worried about the Eagles in this game now. Maybe

455
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 3: everyone's going to be on the forty nine ers, and

456
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,400
Speaker 3: when that happens and it's two good teams, that's usually

457
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 3: a bad sign for the consensus, and the consensus will

458
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 3: be on the forty nine ers. I am consensus, but

459
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Speaker 3: it just feels like they've been tilting towards this loss

460
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Speaker 3: for a while. And one thing I've been very focused

461
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Speaker 3: on this year is the extra rest, and the forty

462
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,399
Speaker 3: nine ers got that four days of extra rest. Teams

463
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Speaker 3: with extra rest, they overperform in terms of the spread

464
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,479
Speaker 3: and everything else exceptionally. It makes a really big difference.

465
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: But on top of that, it's long been my corner

466
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Speaker 3: when you have so many snaps the week before, and

467
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Speaker 3: we know that the Eagles played in overtime, not only

468
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: that with Rosenthal, not only that they were on the

469
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Speaker 3: field that whole game. Defensively, I think it matters more

470
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: for defense and offense. Ninety five snaps for the defensive

471
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: backs of the Eagles. Ninety five that's like that's two games. Yeah,

472
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 3: eighty plus for Reddick, seventy six for Jalen Carter career high,

473
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 3: sixty two for Jordan Davis career high. They've had injuries there,

474
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,320
Speaker 3: Fletcher Cox's out of practice this week, still, Milton Williams.

475
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 3: And on the other side, it's like the dbs for

476
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers played at sixty snaps. The defensive

477
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 3: line have played thirty forty snaps last week. And you

478
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 3: look at Nick Bosa and he's peaking right now eighteen

479
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 3: pressures and Javon Hargrave, he's got the revenge game angle,

480
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 3: and I just think up front, they're fresher and the

481
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: game matters more to them, not just because they feel

482
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Speaker 3: like they owe the Eagles one from a year ago,

483
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 3: but because of where they are right now in the season,

484
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Speaker 3: and I do think there's something that matters when that

485
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 3: comes to it that the Eagles are going to be

486
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Speaker 3: up for this game, of course, but they've just had

487
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 3: a lot going on this season that I feel like

488
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 3: right now the forty nine Ers are the better team

489
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Speaker 3: and they're the fresher team.

490
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Speaker 4: I think the snap count thing, like I would kind

491
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Speaker 4: of shrug that off in September, it matters now. And

492
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 4: they've been through a gauntlet, I mean, the Eagles, and

493
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 4: it's like it feels like they've been like the game

494
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Speaker 4: of the week week after week.

495
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Speaker 5: And to me, though, they're like the.

496
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Speaker 4: Reverse Bills because to sneak the win they did, it

497
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Speaker 4: wasn't they to go win that game last week. It's

498
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Speaker 4: not that you're playing with house money, but it's like

499
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Speaker 4: you're just getting closer and closer to that totally important

500
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Speaker 4: number one seed. It matters so much to me this

501
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 4: games in Philly. But I also just look at the

502
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 4: way that Eagles have won because they've been imperfect, and

503
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: it's like, I'm kind of over this comparison between the

504
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 4: two ten and one Eagles operations last year and this

505
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 4: year because I kind of like what they're showing me.

506
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 4: They've been out like there's something not to like. They've

507
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 4: been out gained by ninety plus yards each of their

508
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,479
Speaker 4: last four wins. Yeah, they found a way to win

509
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 4: those games. They've been five and oh when trailing at halftime.

510
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 4: That speaks to me about who they are as a

511
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Speaker 4: team and hurts his one five straight games when trailing

512
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Speaker 4: by ten plus points.

513
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: So I guess you're getting crazy.

514
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 5: It is.

515
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,239
Speaker 4: You're getting this version of the Niners, though, who are

516
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 4: all healthy when they're operating.

517
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 5: They're all healthy. It's like certain guys kind of can dissip.

518
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 5: We saw, you know, Diebo was out for a bit.

519
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: It's like he can disappear for a game and then

520
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 4: Brandon Au blows up or George Kittle blows up.

521
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 5: Eagles have a really good run defense.

522
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 4: So if it's not a Christian McCaffrey All Stars showing,

523
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 4: someone else is gonna do it. And I but I

524
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,959
Speaker 4: do trust the Eagles just to find their way if

525
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 4: they get off to a slow start. They're the team

526
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 4: I trust to get back into a game because we've

527
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 4: seen it over and over.

528
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 6: Absolutely.

529
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: I mean, they there's no deficit that takes them out

530
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 5: of the game.

531
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 6: Well, maybe this will be different this game.

532
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: I think they've been living dangerously for weeks, as you're

533
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: pointing out, and I just feel like this could be

534
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 2: a bit of a maybe not a bad thing. Like

535
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: if the Niners go into Philly and they play as

536
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: well as we think they have a chance to play

537
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: here and kind of spank the Eagles a little bit,

538
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: it well, to me, it would be a thing that

539
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 2: would be surprising, but it wouldn't be shocking. It would

540
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: be kind of like, okay, like the Eagles have not

541
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: been playing a top four but winning here comes an

542
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 2: elite team that, by the way, needs this game if

543
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: they have any chance of getting the number one seed

544
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: in the NFC, and they know that, and Kyle Shanahan

545
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: is pounding that into their heads. And they're also, by

546
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: the way, very very upset the Niners about how last

547
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: season ended.

548
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,719
Speaker 6: They're bitter about it, openly bitter. I would be too.

549
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 6: They were a.

550
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: Absolute freight train going into the NFC title game and

551
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: then they lost all their quarterbacks, which, by the way,

552
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: his son Reddick this week talked about that, and he's

553
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: kind of sick of hearing that because he feels like

554
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: the Niners are use that as a crutch.

555
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 6: A little bit talk is cheap. You know, they get

556
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 6: to come back in the lateth.

557
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: It was a lot of boohoo's last year, a lot

558
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: of crime, a lot of what if, a lot of this,

559
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: a lot of that.

560
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 6: They get a chance to come back in here improve

561
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 6: it again.

562
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: All right, Greg, I'm gonna hit you with one of

563
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: your gregism's there. And that was by the way Sports

564
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: Radio ninety four whip two things can be true. They

565
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 2: could be boohoo and speaking out about how bum they

566
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 2: were and they felt like they got robbed the Niners.

567
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 2: And it could also be like the Eagles, like we

568
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: don't care. We just played the team that was there

569
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 2: and you shouldn't complain about it. So I like that

570
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: there's a little more kind of bad blood there, you

571
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 2: think potentially, and it's gonna be mark your boy Purdy.

572
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: I think it's a big party game here in a

573
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: big test and Greg like the Bills, as the Bills

574
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: proved last week. I don't think there's any reason why

575
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 2: Perdy can't eat a little bit here.

576
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: I totally agree. You look at the matchups on the outside,

577
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: these cornerbacks, I thought Bradbury had his best game of

578
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 3: the season last week, by the way, so he's had

579
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: a rough go, but Slay's playing a little better. But

580
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: the cornerbacks have struggled the middle of the field of struggle,

581
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 3: and Kyle Shanahan loves just circling those linebackers and eating

582
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: them your food, your food, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're

583
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 3: gonna eat you. With Kittle and Deebo and the two

584
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 3: man game, and oh, by the way, Zach Cunningham's out

585
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 3: of practice, they're already short to Kobe Dean. They might

586
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 3: be gonna shack Lenardna No, although actually do it, I would.

587
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: I don't. I like the Eagles too much to lock

588
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 3: against him, but it's probably gonna be Christian Ellis and

589
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 3: Nick Morrow and so I agree. I think it can

590
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: be a big party game. He has played fantastic the

591
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks and on the other side, to me,

592
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: I'd be the only reason I wouldn't lock. And I

593
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: do think that the forty nine ers will win and

594
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,479
Speaker 3: cover is Hurts is there's something just special about him,

595
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: and they're taking on the personality of Hurts and Davanta

596
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: and aj Brown. That's where the weakness of this entire

597
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers roster is is at cornerback. And so

598
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 3: if you told me they both go for one twenty

599
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 3: five and this game's in the thirties and it's just

600
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: whoever has the last ball wins, that would not shock me.

601
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 6: I would.

602
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: I would lock up the Niners in this game because

603
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: I love I love them in this game. However, I'm

604
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: like Mac Jones right now, like I'm not in the

605
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: picks competition. I'm not good, but I'm not as bad

606
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 2: as I look right now, but my confidence is shot,

607
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna stay away.

608
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, Mac Jones is as bad as he

609
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: looks at this point, but deep within your saying yes,

610
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: deep with.

611
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 4: It, I am going to do it, oh, because I'm

612
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: so far out of this race, but I'm going the Niners.

613
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: I just have a feeling like and it really everything

614
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: I just said about the Eagles can still be true

615
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 4: even if they get nipped in this game.

616
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 6: I like this lock.

617
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 5: I just think it's like, well, first of ball's for

618
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 5: the show.

619
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: Have they got to do it again?

620
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 6: I love this lock.

621
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 5: I don't know, come join me, you can come.

622
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: To need this lock, and yet I must walk away

623
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: from this lot. I'm Mac Jones throwing up moonballs on

624
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 2: out routes right now because I just don't trust we'll

625
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: see or feel.

626
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 5: I like this over under of forty seven. I like

627
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 5: my record here six and six.

628
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: Five and seven. Wait, I'm behind seestok. I thought we

629
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 2: were tired in both lost last two. What are we

630
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: doing over there? What are you doing back there?

631
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: I believe I like what you're doing. I believe the

632
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: I like what you're doing over the graphics on this

633
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 3: show made a mistake that was corrected by the Lock

634
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: It Up website that all along Mark had been I

635
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 3: believe up one.

636
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 4: But uh okay, well that feels uncomfortable because we've formed

637
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: a comfortable union in the past.

638
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: You know, I have a plan that will probably get

639
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: me even in the stand Mark, it was weird, Mark,

640
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: just like huge pump, like yeah, third bit, well like

641
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 2: the bottom pis so you know, taking a swipe at

642
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 2: me in it and the Westling Brothers are just two

643
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: games behind Greg. They're our only hope people.

644
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Speaker 2: All Right, second pick good? One second pick is me?

651
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: You know, I was starting to panic because I was

652
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: scanning down, was like, there's nothing here. There's a lot

653
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: of thing here, but there is one game that again,

654
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: another one a few weeks back, had what had no

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Speaker 2: interest in, But I love it now. The Denver Broncos

656
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: traveling to Houston to take on the Texans. I think

657
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: that's also the most underrated announcing team for CBS. Iron Eagle,

658
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: Charles Davis, our Buddy CD and Evan Washburn, who is

659
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: money on the sideline and he's got that Patrick Bateman

660
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: look where.

661
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 5: It's just like good looking guy, got everything together. What's

662
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: really going on?

663
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm more than we know, aren't you often wondering

664
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: like what's going on? More than we could imagine? Like hey,

665
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 3: ceed He's like, hey, Evan, you want to go grab

666
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: a beer? After No, I got some movies to return.

667
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: I gotta go return by movies.

668
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not insinuating that he's a serial killer, but

669
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: he might have videotapes to return whenever you want to

670
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: hang out with them, and then it becomes like.

671
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 6: Well where is he going?

672
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: Good observation Texans by three and a half in this one,

673
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: here's a good observation.

674
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 3: C J.

675
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 6: Stroud is good. Tanked hell good?

676
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: Whoa even in a loss, yea even in a loss

677
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: last week against the Jags and a tough loss at that,

678
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: they were flashing again. And it's just they've become now

679
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: kind of appointment television in terms of you want to

680
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 2: see how this continues it.

681
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,239
Speaker 5: And yet it's like the team that interests me more

682
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 5: right now is the Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos, a

683
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 5: team that I had written off like the rest of us.

684
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: I mean, we forked him and we're in a lot

685
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 5: of trouble there. Greg's going to be opening up his

686
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 5: check book again check tough sitch. But they have won

687
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 5: five straight games, and now if they could eat the Texans,

688
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 5: you know there's playoff ramifications. Here's big ones that puts

689
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 5: them in the driver's seat for a wild card spot,

690
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 5: and it puts the Texans in a tough spot would

691
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 5: drop them down to five hundred.

692
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: So will they keep it up in Greggy, I have

693
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: to say you are, and I mean this sincerely, a

694
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: gifted analyst. You're very good at this, and I think

695
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: Greg performs a vital role of the show with his

696
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: football acumen.

697
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: Just your love of the game, your knowledge of the game,

698
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: your passion for it. I like this, where are we

699
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: going here? We giving me feel uncomfortable.

700
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: I believe you have a dual blind spot in your

701
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: analysis that's connected.

702
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 6: There's connective tissue.

703
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: It's Gino Smith right now and it's Russell Wilson because

704
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: they are tied together for history. And I don't think

705
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: I think you're kind of looking at Gino with rose

706
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: colored glasses and you're kind of doing the opposite with Russ.

707
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: You know who Nick Schuk has ranked higher in the

708
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 3: QB and neck oo Geno Smith.

709
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: Okay, but listen, Russ Wilson is playing a role here

710
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: in this five game winning streak and making plays week

711
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: after week with his legs, which is back in a

712
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: part of his game, and making money throws.

713
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 6: He is the best red zone.

714
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: Quarterback in football this season, Greg, and every week he's

715
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: making a big time throw.

716
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 6: He is or three.

717
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 3: He's extremely confusing. I'm with you because what about my

718
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 3: general overall take? Well, I.

719
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 5: All the compliment, great analysts.

720
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: Yeah that was great. Yeah, I was double blind with that.

721
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 5: You kind of walked to Greg into a trap there

722
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 5: a little bit you.

723
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: Did again, Buck has Geno higher. I think I'm seeing

724
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: things with Gena this year. He's been fine. He hasn't

725
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: really been much different. Russell Wilson, you might you might

726
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: have a point. So I actually looked into it this

727
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: week too because I was like, what am I missing here?

728
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: Because when you look at his stats, it's kind of crazy.

729
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 3: His yards per attempt down significantly from last year. Right,

730
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: yards per completion down significantly from last year. Different offend

731
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: sack great, still sky high, still one of the highest

732
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: in the league. Fumbles higher, actually again one of the

733
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: highest in the leagues. So there are some downsides, but

734
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: he leads the league an interception percentage in terms of

735
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 3: preventing turnovers. In terms of the interception, he's been great

736
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,479
Speaker 3: inside the red zone. He's running better lately. The completion

737
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: percentage is obviously up, and he's been money late in

738
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: games when they've needed him to be.

739
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Speaker 6: He's been a smart quarterback he really has.

740
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: And eight touchdowns too, Yeah, they are a good team.

741
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Speaker 2: Eight touchdowns, zero interceptions off the last in these last

742
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: five games.

743
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Speaker 6: Always.

744
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: This game interests me though, because of you compare the

745
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks and it's like, I think they got to

746
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: meet a little in the middle here. The Texans are

747
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: asking CJ. Stroud to do more than whatever veteran thirteen

748
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 3: year veteran Russell Wilson is being asked to do a Denver.

749
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: Isn't that kind of crazy? Yeah, And I feel like

750
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 3: Stroud is now maybe doing a little too much, and

751
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: I think slowly they're asking Russell Wilson to do a

752
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: little bit more. Last week, the running game was certainly

753
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: part of it, and Sean Payton said that, but I

754
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: think for them to get to where they want to go,

755
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: he's got to be a little more dynamic. They got

756
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 3: to have a little more throws down the field more consistently,

757
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: and Stroud needs a little more help. So it's some

758
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: some meeting in the middle. It is kind of crazy

759
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: that Stroud is is a bigger part of their offense.

760
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Speaker 6: WI here's the weird thing.

761
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Speaker 5: Like Devin Singletary has really stepped up in these last

762
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Speaker 5: few weeks and.

763
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Speaker 3: He's got good while last but he's I mean, give

764
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: me some consistency. They had a couple of big plays

765
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: though last week as a receiver, but they rely zero

766
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: running game from them last week between him and Pepe.

767
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: But he's average one hundred and seventeen scrimmage George last

768
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: three weeks.

769
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 6: Now, the previous two weeks were bigger.

770
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: But you're you know, you're saying beyond that and and Tank,

771
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 2: they need somebody else to step up.

772
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 3: I love defense. Defense, right.

773
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Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question though, because, like I

774
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 4: I have no problem with Stroud just winging it the

775
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: way he has and throwing the ball as much, and

776
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: like he's an MVP candidate, are you saying you want

777
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 4: him used differently?

778
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 5: Like the not using him in the passing?

779
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: I mean more, you need a running game. They were

780
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: got awful again last week, so that's most you know,

781
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 3: they had those couple of good weeks, but their defense,

782
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: you know, get him some turnovers like they've been getting

783
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: for Russell Wilson, and last week especially, he kind of

784
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: was doing the Aaron Rodgers did this something, you know,

785
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: where he was just going back there and trying to

786
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 3: make a play. There wasn't much in rhythm, which is

787
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: part of what I liked about Stroud.

788
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 6: That's all.

789
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: It's so interesting, like in a sliding door situation where

790
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 4: I thought like Nick Cassario's butt was on fire about

791
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: a year ago, and it's like now no one talks

792
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: about him because he picked the right quarterback and a

793
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 4: bunch of other things worked out, and like he's faded

794
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 4: into the distance as a at someone first and then

795
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: like where we were with Russell Wilson a year ago,

796
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, I guess, like you know, Russell

797
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: Wilson is kind of like a comeback Player of the

798
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: Year candidate right now, just because of the how dark

799
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 4: and how far away and how close it looked like

800
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: his career was just over.

801
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 5: To what we're seeing now.

802
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 4: And also the Broncos in general going from like Sean

803
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: Payton terrible zero Q rating to like, oh, Sean Payton,

804
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 4: you know, eviscerated Nathaniel Hackett and now he's Carmack returns.

805
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 5: He's won five straight games.

806
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 6: We have fun with Russell Wilson. Do we have any

807
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 6: Russ Wilson sound drops? We have fun? What does it

808
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 6: say on that wall upstairs?

809
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 5: Integrity?

810
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 6: And he is kind of in some ways and I

811
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 6: mean this, you know, Bronco's orange Let's ride. I don't

812
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: mean this in a mean way.

813
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: He's kind of a ridiculous person, okay, but he also

814
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: his power of positivity and his utter belief and self

815
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: and the idea of like sticking to a plan and

816
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 2: all this stuff that led positive affirmation.

817
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 6: All that stuff.

818
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: I think that Russ Wilson has helped him flush last year,

819
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: where some other quarterbacks like got Mac Jones for instance,

820
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: although circumstances but still like can be ruined by a

821
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: year as bad as last year was. I think his

822
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: kind of mentality helped him move away from that at

823
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: a time where not only was he coming off his

824
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: worst year and become kind of a punchline, it was

825
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: a new head coach who immediately brought in a new

826
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 2: backup quarterback in this general vibe that he was a

827
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: dead man walking on this team.

828
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 6: He feels pretty entrenched now with Sean Page.

829
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't like I mean, the Russell Wilson experience

830
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: is absolutely not for everyone, and it's and there's things

831
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 4: he says that feel kind of like disconnected from reality.

832
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 4: He is a religious person and he talked literally this

833
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: past week about having this like self reflection where he

834
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 4: wondered if his career was over and kind of asking,

835
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,760
Speaker 4: like the universe, why.

836
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 5: Are you talking footsteps on the beach? Are we talking

837
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 5: footeps in the middle? Footsteps on the beach situation that

838
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 5: comes up once every eight months of this year. It

839
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 5: is not unlike that two foot steps, the one set

840
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 5: of footsteps and now the two again, like why did

841
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 5: you abandon me? It's like, no, Aaron, you over my

842
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 5: shoulder right there.

843
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm just saying he's going to be a little better,

844
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 3: all right, I'm with you, but like you think you

845
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: think I'm biased, and you're saying comeback player of the Year,

846
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm saying, can check some some stats here,

847
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 3: Like I think he has gotten better the last couple weeks.

848
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: QBR sixteenth, right between Dobbs and Baker Mayfield PFF sixteenth,

849
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: one spot below Gino.

850
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 5: Like, but your butter knife and Greg, You're you're ignoring

851
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 5: other stats.

852
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, But I'm saying those those are ones that I

853
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 3: trust more than like passer rating and stuff. My point

854
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: is he's been a perfectly average starting quarterback. I'm not

855
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: gonna go so crazy that one of the highest paid

856
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the league with a great head coach is average.

857
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: It's been a big upgrade Old Good. It's gonna give

858
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: him a chance, and he's been getting better.

859
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 4: I think like there's a different argument between like Russell

860
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 4: Wilson from various metrics is a great quarterback. I don't

861
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: think anyone's saying that, but the comeback player of the

862
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 4: Year is just simply narrative to Good.

863
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Jamar Hamilon still deserves it, but if they

864
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: don't give it to tomorrow, I think Russ and if

865
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: Greg's gonna throw it us out, I'll throw out one more.

866
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: Russ Wilson in the red zone this year seventeen touchdowns,

867
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: zero interceptions in that offense, and with the way that

868
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: defense playing and how opportunistic they are, that's a good

869
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 2: stat too, Gregy.

870
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: It's an overrated one. They always tried out as red

871
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: zone stats because it's like everyone's stats in the red

872
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: zone they're amazing. It's true, all right, Next, Mark is

873
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: the anti Derek Carr. I'll give you that.

874
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: I would say, check out Derek carrs or any Jets

875
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: quarterback in the last thirty years. Not everyone has good

876
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: red zone stats, all right, go ahead. All right, Uh, Mark,

877
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: I'm taking my late game Browns at Rams. I think

878
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: this is a major turning point for the Cleveland Browns.

879
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: What I saw last week against those Broncos was concerning

880
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: on multiple levels.

881
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 3: But now it's could like the weirdness of this team

882
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: has gotten so much weirder because you can't bury the lead.

883
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: Like Joe Flacco is going to be starting for the

884
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 4: Browns here in Los Angeles. Again, if they announce it,

885
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 4: well he's taken, unless you know, DTR suddenly overcomes what

886
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 4: looked like a gnarly head injury.

887
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 5: I don't know if you're gonna rush him back into

888
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 5: the lineup on the road.

889
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: Uh, yes, the path the concussion tests, taking all the

890
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: snaps in practice. So I'm going with the fact that

891
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: it's going to be Flacco, and you know, Stefanski still

892
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: said the DTR is the starter.

893
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 5: Ultimately we'll see about that.

894
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 4: It shows last week. Actually, no, I think you did too.

895
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: Actually like their quarterback play when PJ. Walker came in.

896
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 4: Everything fell apart completely. But I just think the Browns

897
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 4: that it can you know, lean so hard on this defense.

898
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 4: They gave up one hundred and sixty nine yards on

899
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 4: the ground to Denver one hundred and seventy two on

900
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 4: the on the ground of Pittsburgh one hundred plus to

901
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 4: Baltimore in the last three weeks.

902
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 5: So that part of their defense has been problematic.

903
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: And I think one of the stories of the NFC,

904
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 4: and one of the reasons the Rams scare me down

905
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 4: the stretch as if not a playoff hopeful chance, but

906
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 4: a berserker type team, is Kiren Williams is running the

907
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: ball like about as well as anyone the league. Is

908
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 4: three hundred and one yards over the task last two games.

909
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 4: You know there was no injury in between that. At

910
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: eight point three yards per carry, He's like an electric,

911
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 4: big play runner who completely changes this offense and makes

912
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford all the more dangerous. So I think this

913
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 4: is a real challenge for Cleveland, especially when it's like, Okay,

914
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 4: Miles Garrett avoided a terrible injury, but I don't know

915
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: what Latin means in terms of his overall health. He

916
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 4: couldn't even lift his army we could go. So we'll

917
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: see if you're gonna get that version of Miles Garrett.

918
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 5: I think you're selling the Rams short if you're saying

919
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 5: they're more a berserker. To you, they're one game out

920
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 5: of a playoff spot. I think they can.

921
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: I can't.

922
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 5: It just gets some munchy.

923
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 6: I think absolutely they could be playing.

924
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 4: I don't see them as like a oh that looks

925
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: like a playoff team to me. Quarter after quarters they're

926
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 4: in the race. Absolutely.

927
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 3: They have hit on something with this run game though,

928
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: And that's why this I love. I love December football,

929
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: December to remember we're getting there, December dream because all

930
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: because these stories, these personalities that we've have been building

931
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: for three months, they do have games like this where

932
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: the rubber meets the road. I don't. I think the

933
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: Browns can and very well might lose this game. They're

934
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: three and a half point underdogs. I would pick the Rams,

935
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: but neither would surprise me. I think they can survive

936
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: a loss here and they'll still be in the mix.

937
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: But the whole idea of this Browns defense is a

938
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 3: truly special group. And then this Rams offense and especially

939
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: their running game, building something really interesting. Our friend Nate

940
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: Tice has tweeted a lot about this, and our friend

941
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 3: Jordan Rodrieg has been writing about this that these Rams

942
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: duo runs, and a duo run is basically like a

943
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 3: power scheme, you're you're double teaming, you're running with the

944
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: tight end on the field. They're doing it in some

945
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: creative ways that they're blocking with the wide receivers and

946
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 3: the tight end, but it's ultimately power, straight ahead type

947
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: of football with some ingredients mixed in. And it's interesting

948
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 3: to think back to what made Sean McVay Sean McVay,

949
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: and it was the opposite. It was zone and it

950
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 3: was it was the coordination between the offense line. But

951
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 3: the way the NFL is now with all these light

952
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: boxes and the Browns are kind of part of that,

953
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: it's like, hey, how about we just smash you? And

954
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: the Rams have been pretty good and pretty creative about that,

955
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: and so it's a nice little clash here and I

956
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: kind of think the Rams have a good chance to

957
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: run the ball on them.

958
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 4: I will say Jeremiah Wosacormo last week played one of

959
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: the best games I've ever seen.

960
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: So good.

961
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 4: He's just fun to watch and he like is a

962
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 4: star who then seems to disappear in that defense sometimes

963
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 4: a little bit.

964
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 5: But on the flip side, and we were talking about

965
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 5: the stand.

966
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: Like I've argued to you about Dave and Najoku at

967
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 4: times like I found what what happened last week when

968
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 4: you needed to support two young quarterbacks like the drops

969
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 4: and the dry It wasn't just him, it was the

970
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: rest of that Oh he had a red, but he

971
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: he just did like the worst version of Dave and Nadjoku.

972
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 4: When that happens, it's really frustrating. Like a lot of

973
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 4: Browns fans kind of joke about the fact that there's

974
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 4: all these clips of him, like catching balls and with

975
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 4: no shirt on, like and you know, off the jugs machine,

976
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 4: and like he looks like a perfect athlete.

977
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 5: But then it's like, you got to make these plays.

978
00:42:58,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 5: You want to be a star tight end.

979
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 3: They need him because they just don't have enough weapons.

980
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 6: There's nothing.

981
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's nothing more frustrating than watching your team that has,

982
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: you know, a backup quarterback and the guy struggling just

983
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 2: to complete basic passes and when he finally puts one

984
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: on the money, you're not making catches. And he dropped

985
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: an end zone ball that was the other tight end

986
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: picked him up later in that drive, but then had

987
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: another big drop over the middle. And in general, they

988
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: need these guys need to help out the quarterbacks, and

989
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: you know, the Flacco side of things is just like

990
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 2: it's coming, It's happening, and it's gonna be wild to watch.

991
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna set the over on two and a

992
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 2: half fumbles on Sunday for Flacco.

993
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 5: And that's what a stone age pony does.

994
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: And maybe he'll be able to He'll if he gets protection,

995
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 2: he'll be able to spin a couple deep and maybe

996
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: they hit on something. It's it's It says a lot

997
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 2: about the state of the Browns and the desperation that

998
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: like last year in New York, turning to Joe Flacco

999
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two twenty three is the right

1000
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: move because they need something to spark them more.

1001
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: And I guess I don't see it as much with

1002
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: dtr I know, I thought he had a nice game.

1003
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 3: He made some nice thrown see.

1004
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1005
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the PJ Walker does nothing for me. So

1006
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: give give Flacco a shot here and see if he

1007
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: can you can get lightning about.

1008
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: He will be their fourth starter this year. Man, I

1009
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 3: wish I could find the step. I think it's the

1010
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 3: first team in six or seven something like that years.

1011
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: I believe it was a Panthers team that last started

1012
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: four starting quarterback. So it's pretty pretty rare you have

1013
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 3: four starters.

1014
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 4: In a season, and it's about the weirdest quarterback you

1015
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,439
Speaker 4: could imagine in a Brown's helmet.

1016
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 5: So I just, you know, visually, I don't know.

1017
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 6: I'm strange. By the way, that was, the Browns are

1018
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 6: your first pick this week?

1019
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah?

1020
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 6: Have you cal ripkins?

1021
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: By the way, they're over in Westwood practicing all week.

1022
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 3: They're in LA the Browns. You everythink, just no, he's not,

1023
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 3: he's not.

1024
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 6: Remember he's not.

1025
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: But you're just a fan of football. You could go,

1026
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what am I allowed to go watch them?

1027
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: I don't know what the security is like over there.

1028
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: You could get in abubble press bet now they're outside

1029
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: it's beautiful, sure, or just show up. Maybe fans can

1030
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 3: show up there. I don't know how it works. Well,

1031
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: but he's not a fan, right well as a credential,

1032
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 3: just as a reporter, as a reporter, yeafessional. Yeah, it's

1033
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: they're they're at in UCLA all week. I just find

1034
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: that interesting.

1035
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 5: That's a hops given a jump, take a look. All right,

1036
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: you're up again.

1037
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: Mark, I'm going to take the Lions coming off a

1038
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: grizzly Thanksgiving Day against the Saints, who are a weird team.

1039
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: I guess I kind of want to just see what

1040
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 4: this Lions team coming off of, you know, nine plus

1041
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 4: days of rest, which I think matters how they recover.

1042
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: I mean, good reset for them too, after you know

1043
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: the grim nature of that game and even the week

1044
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: before where they just survived against Chicago.

1045
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we need to.

1046
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 4: I think if you're a Lions fan, you want to

1047
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 4: see Jared Goff return to the version of Jared Goff

1048
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 4: that we had seen for so long. I have confidence

1049
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: that can happen, but he's had two really ugly performances

1050
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 4: in a row. I kind of d to feel like,

1051
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: in general, the Lions have these things. When I was

1052
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 4: watching the Packers game, it's like, Oh, this is what

1053
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: they're playoff. They're going to win a playoff game, and

1054
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 4: then they're gonna lose one and the loss is going

1055
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: to look like this one where they just get kind

1056
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 4: of thrashed, and it's like the secondary is a fatal flaw.

1057
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 4: You know, Aiden Hutchinson is, you know, brilliant, but there's

1058
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: not a great pass rush here this you know, their

1059
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 4: offensive line, I thought got controlled by Green Bay a

1060
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 4: week ago.

1061
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 5: That's the problem. Is Aada Hutchinson brilliant? Also, I think

1062
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: that's part of the issue too.

1063
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 6: He's not.

1064
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm not saying that he's a mathematician.

1065
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, I mean, like he's not

1066
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 3: a brilliant football player. I don't know how good play.

1067
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: I think he's cracking to be a pretty huge difference maker.

1068
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 3: I mean, like a pro bowler. It's a successful maybe

1069
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: maybe not, though there's so many good edge players. It's

1070
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: it's a fair point. I don't know.

1071
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: He makes sometimes basically than you can see, he disappeared

1072
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: and then he's a very good player.

1073
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, you said brilliant.

1074
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: Aaron Donaldson told me that he has a similar career

1075
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: in some ways to Jdevian Clowney, where it's a lot

1076
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: of pressure, like borderline pro bowler, but maybe not like

1077
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett.

1078
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 5: I get it, Myles Garrettrillian.

1079
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 4: We call these coaches brilliant all the time, and they're

1080
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 4: not brilliant either, So I don't it's in football that

1081
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: we're I'm.

1082
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 5: Not talking about intellect, right, I'm talking about like I thought,

1083
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 5: you meant brilliant as a brilliant act. I did, but

1084
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 5: I couldn't regret using that word anymore.

1085
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 6: At this point, we.

1086
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: Should have mentioned Garrett by the way, we got to

1087
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: see how he looks. He did, I did, Okay, good

1088
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: go on.

1089
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 6: I never said that.

1090
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 5: Any other corrections or issues at this point.

1091
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 6: Uh no, move forward. I just say Craig like, that's.

1092
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 3: Fourth in pressures them on edges in sixth and grade.

1093
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: By pfs, that's pretty pretty good, very good Saints, very

1094
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 3: banged up.

1095
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 4: Like and Derek Carr like the last three time passes

1096
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: have not come from Derek Carr. Like, I don't know

1097
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 4: what's gone with Derek Carr, but like from a lot

1098
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: of different ends, Saints fans are not thrilling Saints fans.

1099
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm happy with Derek Carr. Let's throw it to Greg

1100
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 2: ah Well that they hate him.

1101
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 3: The media apparently is because they were asking him and

1102
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: about his red zone woes, and he's like, I could

1103
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: tell you what we're doing, but I'm not going to

1104
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 3: answer that question. It's just getting a little ted. I

1105
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 3: knew it was.

1106
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: That's so bored of the Derek Carr hate. There's so

1107
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: much more to not like about this team beyond derekkar.

1108
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: But to your red zone point. Over the last two seasons,

1109
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: fifteen for fifty two on passes from ten are closer.

1110
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: Next worst among that's twenty eight percent. Next worst among

1111
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: thirty five players with twenty attempts is Matt Ryan uh

1112
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: Now working with CBA ten percent better retired guy than

1113
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: Derek Carr.

1114
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 6: So they fired and retired.

1115
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 3: There is something there there. Twenty ninth. It's just it's

1116
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: just bad. And and I'm with you, there's so much

1117
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: more to not to like about the Saints, And I

1118
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: start with their coach and their and their defense. And

1119
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 3: I think, you know, it's done for a team when

1120
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 3: the thing that's supposed to be their core thing is

1121
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: no longer their core thing. And for the Saints for

1122
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 3: for so long under a dentistul it's like, oh, we

1123
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: got to keep this guy, keep this defense together. It

1124
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: was their defense in general, and it was a run defense,

1125
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: especially elite year after year. Last five weeks, one sixty

1126
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 3: four are allowed, one fifty six, twenty eighth. Sorry you're

1127
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: going up again, big Lions team who can mass you

1128
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: on the ground. It's gonna be a long day in

1129
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 3: the Superdome. I'm locking it off me too. Oh no,

1130
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: don't put that on me.

1131
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 6: Give me a double, give it me right in the

1132
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 6: rust train. Let's go, Greg. I will follow him, follow him.

1133
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: You're right, and I almost never. I don't know when

1134
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 3: the last. I never take road teams either. And I'm

1135
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 3: taking like a little here.

1136
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 5: Like a little brother, just trailing behind the big brother.

1137
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 5: No matter where he goes. You can move off this game,

1138
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 5: Greg can go to another game. Oh yes, I will

1139
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 5: follow him, follow him wherever he may.

1140
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: Gones are favored by four in this game. By the way,

1141
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 3: it sounds about right. I don't think that's crazy, but

1142
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 3: oh yeah, we got this Greg, me and you. It

1143
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 3: would be if they don't have Shaheed and olave and

1144
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: o'lavey was practicing yet concussion. But he was practicing, so

1145
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: I think there's a chance he gets a decent chance, Michael,

1146
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 3: see total confidence now. But it's a bad week not

1147
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 3: to have Shaheed here, because I do think Carb made

1148
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: a lot of nice throws last week too. They're not

1149
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: like the worst offense they could put up.

1150
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 6: That's what I was trying to tell you guys on Cyber.

1151
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 3: Putting up a lot of points on the Lions. So

1152
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: is if the Lions trail in this game twenty to ten,

1153
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: I don't want any texts from you, Dan saying why

1154
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: did you did this? I am even when the Lions

1155
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 3: are traveling twenty to ten, I have confidence they will

1156
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: win thirty seven to thirty one.

1157
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 6: I just driving the car. That's my vision.

1158
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 2: Daddy, You're driving the car, that's right, and I'm in

1159
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,720
Speaker 2: the back seat and we are just cruising to another

1160
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: w Yes, That's why I was like pulling my hair

1161
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: out on Sunday watching the Saints because Car threw for

1162
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: three hundred.

1163
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 6: Empty yards and they were moving the ball so well.

1164
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: Between the twenties, Kamara is playing as well as he's

1165
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: playing in about three years.

1166
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 6: He's wit how is that possible? Greg?

1167
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 2: That none of it is greatest though, he's like the

1168
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: greatest red zone running back in the league inside the

1169
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: ten certainly, and they can't find a way to block

1170
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: up front for him or get the ball in his

1171
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: hands in space. And that's when I start to think, Okay,

1172
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: Derek Carr, he's not the guy long term for them.

1173
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 2: But how about Carmichael and the offensive scheme? Like why

1174
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: are they not making the most. I've got them talented

1175
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: the least.

1176
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 3: Greg answer, I can give you which and it's the

1177
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 3: reason why I feel so good locking this game up.

1178
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 1: Es.

1179
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 3: These are vibes.

1180
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 6: Vibes.

1181
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: These are the two opposite vibes teams. Saints have the

1182
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 3: worst among the worst vibes in the NFL, the Lions

1183
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 3: coming off a loss of the best vibes.

1184
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 4: Oh, this is going This will create one of the

1185
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 4: more annoying Sunday.

1186
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: I mean, there's some plus.

1187
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: Now, all right, let's uh move on.

1188
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: It is my turn and I will grab Oh yes,

1189
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: I will take the Atlanta Falcons. Let's grab another South

1190
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: team heading to the Meadowlands to face the Jets. It's

1191
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: a two and a half. Oh my god, you know

1192
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: how how much things have changed. Desmond Riders is the

1193
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 2: quarterback of the Falcons. He's going to New Jersey to

1194
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: play a Jets defense that has faltered of late, but

1195
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: as a couple of weeks ago seen as one of

1196
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: the best in the league. And it's the Falcons favored

1197
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: by two and a half points. And the over under here,

1198
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 2: I can't imagine there's a lower over under and six

1199
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: is not thirty three and a half over under in

1200
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 2: this game, so you know we're gonna see I think

1201
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: I think Desmond Ridder. Listen, am I gonna come out

1202
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 2: here and say now that the Aaron Rodgers been cleared

1203
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: to practice and he's back on the field, and he's

1204
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: still targeting Christmas Eve as a return. As a Jets fan,

1205
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: you know it's a bad idea everything about it, but

1206
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: you can't help it. Suck yourself in and be like, Okay, well,

1207
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 2: if we could just stop the bleeding against a mediocre

1208
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: Falcons team with a bad quarterback, maybe we could kind

1209
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: of just hang around at least get to mid December,

1210
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 2: and then it becomes a possibility that Rogers saves the day.

1211
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 6: All silly talk, but this is what you do as

1212
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 6: a fan.

1213
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 2: You kind of talk yourself into things, and it starts

1214
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: here because I do think that this sets up well

1215
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: for the Jets pass rush and their secondary to force

1216
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: turnovers and give the offense its only chance, which is

1217
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: short fields or even a defensive score, which they got

1218
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 2: against the Dolphins and it still didn't matter. So that

1219
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: is the path to victory for the Jets, is that

1220
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: it's been all season, is the defense saving the day.

1221
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: But I think against this opponent, they have a better

1222
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: chance at it actually occurring.

1223
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 4: They're you know, often glowed about defense for you know,

1224
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: some proper reasons you can run on them, like they're

1225
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 4: only one other team is allowing more yards on the grounds,

1226
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 4: you know, game Some of that is like I guess

1227
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: the game script because you know, a lot of killing

1228
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 4: the clock, and that makes sense. But it's still it's like,

1229
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 4: this isn't a Falcons team that finally, you know, last

1230
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 4: week they ran for two hundred and twenty eight yards.

1231
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 4: It kind of looked like what we thought they wanted

1232
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 4: to do. It wasn't having Desmond Ritter throw the ball

1233
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 4: forty seven.

1234
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 5: Maybe that's it. Maybe it doesn't throw up more than

1235
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 5: fifteen times.

1236
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 4: Scott's you're probably your recipe to sneak into the playoffs

1237
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 4: as a certainly doomed operation. But I feel like this

1238
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,959
Speaker 4: Jets team, and it's like they're so close to probably

1239
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 4: just fracturing psychologically. But they're gonna need like two or

1240
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 4: three special things to happen that generate points from somewhere

1241
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 4: other than your offense to win these games. To have

1242
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers even relevant, I don't even I don't understand

1243
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 4: why he would come. I don't want a guy, forty

1244
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 4: year old guy coming off like a quick recovery from

1245
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: an achilles playing games in late December.

1246
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 5: But that's that's their decision.

1247
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna get there.

1248
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 6: It's not their decision.

1249
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 5: Well, it's they're all It's all happened, is that vision?

1250
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: And and that's where you get frustrated as a fan.

1251
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 2: And why is the Jet Jets ven? You're just it's

1252
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: messing with your mind because you know he shouldn't be

1253
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: doing it, and you know, and Packers fans like Big

1254
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 2: Funk behind the Glass know this. That Rogers is doing

1255
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 2: it in a way that I think you could frame

1256
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 2: it as Rogers is doing it to show that Aaron

1257
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: Rodgers did.

1258
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 5: This not necessarily hundred perceived the Jets.

1259
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 2: And if he could do both at the same time, great,

1260
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: But if you could at least check the boxer being

1261
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: the guy that had the fastest return ever from an achilles,

1262
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: I think that matters a lot in the world of

1263
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.

1264
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 3: Sure, but they'd have to win two out of three minimum.

1265
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: I guess they would have to win two out of three,

1266
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 3: is how I would put it. If he was trying

1267
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 3: to get back.

1268
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 2: For right and in fairness on McAfee, which we can't

1269
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: play the clips too because it's not allowed unless you

1270
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 2: pay a fee. He said that he walked back a

1271
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: little bit and said, my return to the field this

1272
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: season is going to be connected to the Jets. Is

1273
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 2: a bill right to stay in the mix here and

1274
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 2: if they don't win this game, you're kind.

1275
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 4: Of fold On the schedule is it's Falcons, Texans, Dolphins, right.

1276
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: So this is their easiest and I think two and

1277
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 3: a half is I would I would give away the

1278
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 3: two and a half and I would take the Falcons

1279
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: because vibes. Again, not that the Falcons have good fights,

1280
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 3: but the Jets ones are rough, and I just don't

1281
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 3: trust in the offense. And I guess it's like, what

1282
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: do you trust what you saw the last couple of

1283
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 3: weeks or over the breadth of the season. If you

1284
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 3: trust the breath of the season, the Falcons are a

1285
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: total mess And this is pretty winnable. That game last week,

1286
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 3: and granted it was against the Saints, was enough for

1287
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 3: me to be like they reset, they had a bye week.

1288
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: The offensive line looked really cohesive. Caleb McGarry, who struggled

1289
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 3: this season, and Chris Linstrom and that O line, which

1290
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 3: had great continuity. Man, they were blowing open holes and

1291
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 3: they're running for two twenty eight And that was the Falcons.

1292
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 3: I expected you kind of just mentioned that. And is

1293
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 3: that enough to beat the Jets. I think it is.

1294
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 3: But it's the Falcon.

1295
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: I watched that game five last Sunday, and the thing

1296
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: about them, and that's why Arthur Smith is going to

1297
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: lose all his hair by the end of the season.

1298
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 6: Even in that there were still these just dreadful ridder

1299
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 6: I get it.

1300
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: I watched that.

1301
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 5: It's gonna happen every single week with him.

1302
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 4: He'll make like the best throw he's made all season,

1303
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 4: and then a disastrous throw that leaves the Falcons in

1304
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 4: a dark corner.

1305
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 3: They protected him well again, and that's the matchup too.

1306
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 3: But if they're lying their offensive line can play well,

1307
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 3: I think they can win the division.

1308
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 5: He'll give the game, We'll give the Jets a chance

1309
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 5: to win the game.

1310
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: Now, whether or not this version of the Jets can

1311
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 2: take advantage of those opportunities, I am dubious, but as

1312
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 2: a fan, I can always hope. All right, let's take

1313
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 2: a break and then when we get back. Uh, Greggy,

1314
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: all right, we are back housekeeping items before we get

1315
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 2: back to the draft, and Greg is panicking over there

1316
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 2: trying to figure out his next two games.

1317
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 6: Uh.

1318
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: This is our Thursday triple header for ATM. We have

1319
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: this preview show, we have our NFL Plus Dreamatorium episode,

1320
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: and then Thursday Night football recap, Greg Rosenthal.

1321
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: And Stephen Ruiz from the stephen Es Good get that's

1322
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: the brock pretty guy. It's also the geno Smith guy.

1323
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 6: You guys, that's either going to be.

1324
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 3: There for great first start for the Seahawks against Russell Wilson,

1325
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 3: not his first start ever, but last season.

1326
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 4: So I brought him back on for a little good loves.

1327
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 4: This will to be a vibrant to debate as your

1328
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 4: arm in arm, like you know, fawning over to.

1329
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're probably not gonna win, or just

1330
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: like looking at the stats to present his game as

1331
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: somehow successful regardless of brilliant.

1332
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm worried.

1333
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 6: And so check all that content out if you can.

1334
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 2: We promise it is high in quality, because the moment

1335
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: that this show ceases to be a quality program, we're all.

1336
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 6: Out of here.

1337
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah, immediately not doing a bad show mid episode.

1338
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 2: Perhaps I'll go do I'll go do a Yankee podcast

1339
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: that gets I don't know three hundred.

1340
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 6: Are you a month?

1341
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: Are you openly concerned about that that? No, I'm saying

1342
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't want to do a bad podcast.

1343
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm not interested. No, the ambition is strong here and

1344
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: I feel it with you guys too. Okay, as long

1345
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 2: as we care, it's good for them, the listeners. What

1346
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: are talking about?

1347
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 6: Also? Arrest Warren.

1348
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: This is a serious news. Arrest Warren has been issued

1349
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 2: in Dallas for Bill's Edge von Miller for allegedly, and

1350
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: this is no way, assaulting a pregnant woman. The Dallas

1351
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: Police Department confirmed the warrant on Thursday, which was initially

1352
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: reported by w FAA in Dallas Wednesday at eleven am,

1353
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: Dallas Police responded to a major disturbance.

1354
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 6: That's a third degree felony.

1355
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 2: By the way, if you are charged with assaulting a

1356
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: pregnant woman, and that's very, very bad.

1357
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 6: So obviously the case has to play out.

1358
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 2: But we don't know what this means in terms of

1359
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 2: von Miller's future with the Bills or whether he could

1360
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 2: end up be placed on leave and he's had a

1361
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 2: disappointing season, so from a team standpoint, I don't know

1362
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: how much just hurts the Bills. But obviously Miller is

1363
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame level player with a high level

1364
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: of notoriety, and this is not the first time he's

1365
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: been connected to the domestic violence, it should be stated.

1366
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 6: So keep an eye on that story.

1367
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: I will move on by taking the next pick.

1368
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 6: Here, go ahead.

1369
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 3: I do not want to watch the Patriots live, so

1370
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna avoid them and take the Cardinals. I think

1371
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 3: I've had them three straight weeks since Kyler's gone back

1372
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 3: at the Steelers. The Steelers are five and a half

1373
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: point favorites. Okay, makes sense to me. I talked on

1374
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 3: our Wednesday show what matters. I believe this Pittsburgh offensive

1375
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 3: renaissance matters, and so I'm going to keep an eye

1376
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 3: on that good running game, even back since before Matt

1377
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: Canada was fired and last week, if they really are

1378
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 3: getting better in terms of throwing the ball, and I

1379
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 3: thought that was Kenny Pickett's best game of the year

1380
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: by far. I mean that's question. Some real throws, nice

1381
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 3: throws to the outside. Friar Ruth being back is important.

1382
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 3: He was great, really good player.

1383
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's very good.

1384
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: Officials blew a call. He should have had a touchdown

1385
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: pass the Johnson I believe it.

1386
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 3: Right, and Tomlin should have challenged that too, So Pickett

1387
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: would have had that touchdown. Fire ruth like faster than

1388
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 3: I remember. Maybe he's always been fast, but really adds

1389
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: a dynamic to their offense that I think they need.

1390
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: And they're going up against the Cardinals defense, which has

1391
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 3: never been good this season and seems to be collapsing

1392
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 3: further each and every week with injuries. And so if

1393
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 3: they are the Steelers that I kind of think they

1394
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 3: could be down the stretch put up another four hundred

1395
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,919
Speaker 3: yards with Warren and Nase running all over the place

1396
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 3: this week.

1397
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I didn't look at the Bengals defense as

1398
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 4: it was a nice event for Pittsburgh. It wasn't an

1399
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 4: acid test, nor will this be in terms of where

1400
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 4: their offense really is. Like the Cardinals sitting dead last

1401
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 4: in EPA against the pass and thirtieth against the run,

1402
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 4: I think that bolds well. I mean one thing that

1403
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 4: I thought Picket last week had six completions of fifteen

1404
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 4: plus yards and it looked like it. And before that

1405
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 4: he was last in the league in throws of that

1406
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 4: nature per game, and so that that has been missing

1407
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 4: and Friarmouth like seems to kind of just be the glue.

1408
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 4: There's a couple tight ends like that. Other teams don't

1409
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 4: really feature it the same way. Like he really really

1410
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 4: helped open up the middle of the field.

1411
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 5: And I'm with you. I think he's an emerging player.

1412
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 4: He was PFF's fifth highest rated football player week ago.

1413
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: And he might be you know, pick it might be

1414
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 2: like Josh Dobbs as an example, one of those quarterbacks

1415
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: that just loves their tight ends and if they can

1416
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: continue to build in the chemistry, and then he could

1417
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: sprinkle in the wide receivers which are high quality. Yeah,

1418
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: there there's potential here that are coming off that season

1419
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: high four hundred and twenty one total yards. I will

1420
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: just a little bit push back on they did score

1421
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: sixteen points off those four Yeah, that's true, and the

1422
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: week before they won a game and I think it

1423
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: was thirteen points. So this is still not a team

1424
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 2: that's finding a way to pile up points. However, I

1425
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 2: think in this matchup, you won't need more than let's

1426
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 2: say seventeen points.

1427
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 6: So I think it really sets up well for another win.

1428
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: The bummer about the Kyler thing, Greg to me has

1429
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: been Kyler Murray's back, and that's fun, and he does

1430
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,919
Speaker 2: have that highlight play every week still, but they still

1431
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: they're still kind of like the same team with those

1432
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: juice and they're just like a team that exists but

1433
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:27,479
Speaker 2: not really.

1434
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's played solid. He's definitely an upgrade

1435
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 3: from Dobbs, I think overall. But it's it's only so much.

1436
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 3: I've been struggling with what more to say about this

1437
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 3: Cardinals team, but I found something. Okay, They're getting a

1438
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 3: lot of production and a lot of play from a

1439
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 3: very solid rookie class, so that is something they should

1440
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: be happy about. Paris Johnson playing at tackle been solid,

1441
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 3: Ojulari pass rusher solid, Garrett Williams quite good for a

1442
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: third round cornerback, and Michael Wilson, when he's been healthy,

1443
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 3: has been nice at receivers. So their first four picks

1444
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,479
Speaker 3: under this new regime, they don't feel like home runs,

1445
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: but they all feel like singles and doubles guys who

1446
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 3: will be starting in the end those two. That's positive.

1447
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,439
Speaker 3: That is a big change for four players that like Okay,

1448
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 3: those guys will be starting next year.

1449
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 5: They've got right now the number two pick.

1450
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 4: They've got another first round pick and a flock of

1451
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 4: other picks as well, so don't trust them all.

1452
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: Right back to me, I'm gonna take the Dolphins fun

1453
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 3: watch every week. Favored by nine and a half in Washington.

1454
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 3: The Commandos getting no respect anymore, and I get it.

1455
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 3: But as four and eight teams, that was.

1456
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 5: A tough Thanksgiving for the old Commandos.

1457
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 6: It was.

1458
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 3: It was rough, you know, it was a weird game.

1459
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 3: They were like even in total yards halfway through the

1460
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 3: third quarter, and I was like, they're not. Then they

1461
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 3: were quite as bad as I get. The score looked,

1462
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: and then it got even worse and worse and worse.

1463
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 3: As four and eight teams go, they're watchable. They're one

1464
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 3: of the only two teams in the NFL, along with

1465
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, who haven't had a buy yet. And so

1466
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: the buye schedule will end next week with a bang.

1467
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 3: Commanders and Cardinals say goodbye to them for a couple

1468
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 3: of weeks or forever that that would be fine. They

1469
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 3: just stayed on their by I wouldn't mind that Miami

1470
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 3: was asked this week Mike McDaniel, like, are you gonna

1471
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do to improve the short yarded situation?

1472
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: He did say like he wants to run the ball

1473
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 3: a little bit more. Moster, it's having such a nice

1474
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 3: season for them. He might be a pro bowler for

1475
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 3: the first time. We will see if arm armsteads around,

1476
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: Armstead returns. I don't know what to do here there.

1477
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,320
Speaker 3: I want to see a beautiful Tua game. This is

1478
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: an easy matchup. He hasn't had a totally easy one

1479
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 3: in a while. Give me, give me some September Tua.

1480
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, their their schedule Miami and I know

1481
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 4: they're not talked about. Is like a team that's gonna

1482
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 4: sneak in there and take the number one seat. And

1483
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 4: I don't expect it to happen. But Commanders Titans Jets

1484
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 4: after having played you know, an up and down Raiders

1485
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 4: team and the Jets the first time, it's it's laid

1486
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 4: out nicely for them, and it hasn't been like a

1487
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 4: pristine version of Tua the last couple of weeks. But

1488
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 4: I'm with you on Moster, like all he really ever

1489
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 4: needed to do with stay healthy. I mean, it was

1490
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 4: like seemed like every single season injury side swept what

1491
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: was a.

1492
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: Really right And there's been injuries next to him too,

1493
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: so he's had a bigger role because of that.

1494
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 4: Sounds like Devon ay Chan could play this week, we'll see,

1495
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 4: but he didn't have They kind of were cautious with

1496
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 4: him a week ago.

1497
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 5: And I do, Greg, you've been hitting on this a

1498
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 5: little bit. It's I think it's time to see. We're

1499
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 5: not gonna at least so far, we're not gonna know

1500
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 5: for sure how Miami fairs.

1501
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 6: Against the big time teams.

1502
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 2: But let's let's get back to at least, you know,

1503
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 2: a monster offensive performance by this team where you're like, okay,

1504
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: they still have that in them. They could absolutely destroy

1505
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: an opponent. And the and the Commanders, as we just

1506
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: saw against the Cowboys, have a defense that will certainly

1507
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 2: allow that, a defense in disarray that just fired their

1508
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, traded away a bunch of their big pieces

1509
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 2: of the deadline. If the Dolphins once again are kind

1510
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: of hot and cold and two of throws and other

1511
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: onse balloons on an out pattern for a pick six

1512
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: or something like that, it's like, all right, guys, is

1513
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: this a problem?

1514
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 3: Have we peaked as an offense. It's concerning. And then

1515
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 3: on the other hand, like Dolphins fans are like, oh,

1516
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: we're about to go to nine and three, when was

1517
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: the last time he won the AFCAS, Like, I don't

1518
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 3: even know what the answer is, Like you mentioned that

1519
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 3: schedule that could set them up to get to eleven

1520
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 3: and three, and then they have the Cowboys and the

1521
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 3: Ravens in a row. So that's a fun actually scenario

1522
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 3: where like they they beat up on these lesser sisters

1523
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: of the NFL, get to a big, fancy record, and

1524
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 3: then we have some nice matchups there at the end

1525
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 3: of the season, though the last one still have to

1526
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 3: prove themselves right that world, it's fun little Christmas game.

1527
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 4: Cowboys, Yes, Mark, I was gonna say they won the

1528
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 4: division in two thousand and eight.

1529
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,959
Speaker 3: Oh it was against the Jets. Ad Pennington comeback player

1530
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 3: of the year. All right, moving on my turn. Thank you, Mark,

1531
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 3: Tony Sperana.

1532
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 6: Rest in peace. He was a good man.

1533
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: Tony, all right, I will go with uh. You know

1534
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: I haven't done this all year, at least in games

1535
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: that connected to my favorite team. I'm gonna go with

1536
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: the Patriots. I'll help you out there. Gregy Chargers at

1537
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 2: Pats and I have no interest to anything going on

1538
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 2: in New England at all, but I do, you know,

1539
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 2: all right as my second game, as the game that's

1540
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: not as high up, I'll watch justin Herbert. That's kind

1541
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: of what we're at here, where we're at on this

1542
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 2: one in terms of juice from my perspective, from the

1543
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 2: Chargers perspective, like, I don't know, let's see what the

1544
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 2: what's the zone on this five and a half?

1545
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 5: Which is Greggie? Well, you know, why are we not

1546
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 5: locking up this one? I know the Chargers are going

1547
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 5: in bad direction too, but like the Chargers for cracket seven.

1548
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 3: I think this is I think where you get into trouble.

1549
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 3: But it's a number, and I have to admit Nick

1550
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 3: Whistlings talk about don't go for the fives and six

1551
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,959
Speaker 3: is that probably played in my decision making the last

1552
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 3: few weeks. But I actually do think the Patriots have

1553
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 3: a better chance to win this game personally than the

1554
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 3: Saints the defense left because as as as as ugly

1555
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 3: as it is for Brandon Staley, can't you just imagine

1556
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 3: losing to the Patriots here as being kind of the

1557
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 3: final nail. There's nothing Yeah, there's nothing imagine. I mean,

1558
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 3: I don't expect it, but I can imagine.

1559
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 6: With the Chargers, there's nothing that would surprise in terms of, like, yeah.

1560
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 3: A totally preposterous game that Bailey ZAPPI like, doesn't do anything,

1561
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 3: but their running game, which has been pretty good the

1562
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 3: Patriots is effective throughout the game and the defensive place,

1563
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 3: so I could see it. I don't expect it, but

1564
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 3: I could see it and take the five I would

1565
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: give away. I would not give away the five and

1566
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 3: a half i'd taken.

1567
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 2: The Patriots and Belichick never loses to the Chargers, but

1568
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 2: they also the Chargers again, they kind of told on

1569
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,840
Speaker 2: themselves and expose themselves as being fraudulent. But before this

1570
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 2: three game losing streak, they took care of the Bears

1571
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: and the Jets, who are similarly bad teams, at least

1572
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 2: the Jets in the form they are now, and so

1573
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 2: the Patriots should be a team they kind of take

1574
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 2: care of business as well, so it will. I guess

1575
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,679
Speaker 2: that's really what it comes down to. There's two things

1576
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: to watch for on the Patriots side is how bad

1577
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: does this get? Mark you mentioned it when we talked

1578
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: about what matters doesn't matter how the Patriots close. Has

1579
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: Robert Craft already decided what he's doing with the head coach,

1580
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: But certainly if they get embarrassed again at home by

1581
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 2: the Chargers, that will be another nail in Belichick's coffin.

1582
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: And on the Chargers, did they have any fight whatsoever?

1583
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: Or are they quitting on Brandon Staley? It's it's kind

1584
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 2: of a grim game, but one that's worth keeping an

1585
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 2: eye on for those.

1586
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 5: There's terrible things happening for for both coaches.

1587
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 4: I mean, like the Brandon Staley like whatever you're calling

1588
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 4: cards or what do you want to you know, wrestle

1589
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 4: with the media over They're allowing more yards per game

1590
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 4: than they have going back to nineteen eighty five. They've

1591
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 4: never been this bat on defense. And it's not just yardage,

1592
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,280
Speaker 4: it's everything else you see too. And for the Patriots,

1593
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 4: Mac Jones and Bailly Zappy like this, I don't really

1594
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 4: care who's starting or if you play both of them

1595
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 4: seven different times in one game, they combined for a

1596
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 4: fifty six point six PFF grade. Last week Dak was

1597
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,879
Speaker 4: at ninety seven. It's like combined, they were terrible, Oh combined,

1598
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 4: Like if you added their scores and it looks like it.

1599
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 4: That's the thing about Zappi, which I think you have

1600
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 4: to play Zappy in the airplane. Zappi, according to reports,

1601
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 4: even though Belichick won't say it, he's been taking in

1602
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 4: the reps. You have to because Max just totally broken.

1603
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 4: But it is worth noting.

1604
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 6: I checked this.

1605
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 3: PFFS has fifty two players who have had at least

1606
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 3: forty dropbacks this year. Zappi's ranked fiftieth. I mean, he's

1607
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 3: been terrible too, and through through a terrible interception last week.

1608
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 3: So it's just like run the ball and defense and

1609
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:17,600
Speaker 3: hope for that.

1610
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 4: I don't think we We probably don't ever see Mac

1611
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 4: Jones play another game for the Patriots unless there's an injury.

1612
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 6: That's what I thought a couple weeks ago. That's well,

1613
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 6: so bad.

1614
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 3: What's one of the reasons why Belichick is like, I

1615
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 3: can't believe he played him again, and I know they

1616
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 3: don't have any faith in Zappy, but it just he

1617
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,120
Speaker 3: benched himself and you didn't listen. It was crazy, by

1618
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 3: the way, my worst but Johnston benks too. By the way,

1619
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,560
Speaker 3: at the end of last week's team was kind of

1620
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 3: an we didn't really notice that on the show.

1621
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 6: We talked about it, did we We talked about it.

1622
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right, And then they said it was

1623
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,120
Speaker 3: an injury, but then he was playing special. Yeah. Then

1624
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 3: Stalley confirmed eventually essentially was.

1625
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 5: Mess worst contract year All Stars.

1626
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 6: I think maybe U T.

1627
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 2: Higgins is the top of the list, but Austin Eckler

1628
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 2: is not far behind. It's been a tough year for

1629
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 2: Eckler and his stats aren't great, but it's really with

1630
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: him eye test too. He just doesn't seem to be

1631
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: explosive this year, and that's gonna be tough for him.

1632
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 3: Yea, they're really not. There is this idea that they're

1633
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 3: very talented, well after Mike Williams on offense. I just mean, okay,

1634
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 3: Sean Slater certainly, Keenan Allen's a really good receiver, but

1635
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 3: are they better than average overall?

1636
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 2: I'd be curious what Ecklers like Pop the Hood stats

1637
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,799
Speaker 2: are in terms of okay, because you know he's averaging

1638
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: three point eight yards per carrying.

1639
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 6: It looks like this year, all right, let's see always

1640
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 6: something wrong with that team.

1641
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 3: We're in seven.

1642
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 6: We're in seven.

1643
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 4: I got I'll close it out with two picks where

1644
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,840
Speaker 4: will I go first. Uh, if you're driving around the

1645
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 4: Dramas building, I'm gonna take Colts at Titans a crash

1646
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 4: by the side of the that'd be terrible, Uh, Colts

1647
01:11:58,640 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 4: defense like that.

1648
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: Only if you're driving around, there's a lot of tension.

1649
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: But if you're just like sitting in the park listening

1650
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: to the show, you're fine. Well, you're in a nice park, yeah,

1651
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 2: depending on where you live. Yeah, thank you for listening

1652
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 2: in the park. I'm sure it's very nice, maybe not

1653
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 2: seasonably warm.

1654
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 5: If you don't do this thing where you're on three

1655
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 5: time speed in.

1656
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 3: The park, like the the volume of the don't don't

1657
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 3: be on actual speed either of the drug. It's that's healthy. No,

1658
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 3: that's your choice. That's not good. But if you are

1659
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 3: in the park therapeutic, if you are in the park listening,

1660
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 3: send us a send us a picture, send us a

1661
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 3: picture on on the.

1662
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 6: Old thing googling on my NFL.

1663
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: You know, just like a picture of you and speed

1664
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 3: showing you listening and uh, in the park.

1665
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 6: I would love it.

1666
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 5: That'd be really nice.

1667
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 3: I would love it. I've appreciated all the Spotify.

1668
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 5: That that happens once a year.

1669
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 4: They seem to do that once a year, and it's

1670
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,759
Speaker 4: a day that it is everywhere feel great about themselves.

1671
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 3: It is fantastic. I want to say, shout out by

1672
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 3: the way, Yeah it's not good, it's not good for you.

1673
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 3: Shout out to the guy, the truck driver I want

1674
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,799
Speaker 3: to get. His name is Ryan, who listened for forty

1675
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 3: six thousand, eight hundred minutes. I haven't seen one higher

1676
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 3: than that. And I responded saying, that's that's how many hours?

1677
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 3: Forty six thousand. Well, and I didn't ask why, but

1678
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 3: he did explain, and I'm glad it makes sense. I'm

1679
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 3: a truck driver and have been having a great time

1680
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 3: going back through the whole Dude back through the twentye

1681
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 3: he's wondering what her in the car all day? What

1682
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 3: kind of goods does he transport? He's roughly forty six

1683
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: thousand hours ahead of my wife, and I believe, Yeah,

1684
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 3: Emica has never listened that one. Sorry, Mark, we no,

1685
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 3: I wrapped it.

1686
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 5: No.

1687
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 4: I think that was, you know, trenching to talk about

1688
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 4: the listener. I have liked this cult st defense kind

1689
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 4: of all year. I thought that they've just always had

1690
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 4: a knack for making these game changing plays. They've had

1691
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 4: a cake schedule of late, but they've they've only allowed

1692
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 4: thirteen points of games since week nine. They've been awesome

1693
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 4: in the red zone, the best in the league and

1694
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 4: preventing touchdowns in the red zone since week nine, so

1695
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:00,360
Speaker 4: they've been air up.

1696
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 5: And uh, you know you're playing a Cults team. You

1697
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 5: said everyone has great starts in the red zone.

1698
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 6: Not against the Colts, Greg.

1699
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 5: I just mean Cults.

1700
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 3: A lot of times on the CBS broadcast, they'll be like,

1701
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 3: and you know, quarterback X is thirteen touchdown, zero interceptions

1702
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 3: in the reds Like it's just a common trope. Greg,

1703
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 3: it's a common trope. I find you to be an

1704
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 3: incredible No, I'm not gonna do it. Go ahead, Mark,

1705
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 3: tell us more about how great.

1706
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 6: The Cults are.

1707
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 4: I know you think I'm too high in the Cults.

1708
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 4: I just think that they're really well coached.

1709
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 3: You just use your limit of Colt stock yesterday I did.

1710
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna hand it off because it's

1711
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 4: impossible to speak for two sentences anyways on the show.

1712
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 5: But Jonathan Taylor, uh check you lator.

1713
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:41,679
Speaker 3: But Zach Moss.

1714
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 4: Zach Moss is I who I picked up on my

1715
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 4: fantasy team. No one cares about that either, But like

1716
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 4: a waiver wirelator, great Mark, we talked Mark. I mean

1717
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 4: they need him to come back, you know what I

1718
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 4: mean I've been clocking lately. Completely different is actually kindly different.

1719
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 4: And it's not always just talking about two differ in sports,

1720
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,560
Speaker 4: just things are completely different. That's a Marxism. Yeah, we

1721
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 4: have someone else.

1722
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 5: That try to get on that corner on the complete who.

1723
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 3: Completely different from basketball?

1724
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 4: Who's that Ian Rappaport on an NFL films uh production,

1725
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:17,959
Speaker 4: that same.

1726
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 3: Road waiting for weeks no beat a break up completely.

1727
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 7: I was.

1728
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 5: I was alerted to it actually last night.

1729
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 3: I mean, if he had said completely different than basketball.

1730
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 5: But.

1731
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 3: He's trying to, you know, do his own right. I

1732
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 3: guess in what context did he say that? Don't recall

1733
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 3: that this is anything else? Will you take if you're

1734
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 3: the Titans? Will you take what Gardner Minshew gives you

1735
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 3: every week? You know, every week there's three or four

1736
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 3: chances for the defense to make a play on Gardner Minshew?

1737
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 3: And will the Titans take a chance? Wait, Graver didn't

1738
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 3: send the video you know what?

1739
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 6: Or did he did?

1740
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 5: He?

1741
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 6: I even connected with him on it.

1742
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 3: I did to him, but you know we love him anyways.

1743
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 3: We do next week and.

1744
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 5: That is the Titans are getting one point there.

1745
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 3: By the way, thank good job there you go you

1746
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 3: on that. If the Colts are really going to be

1747
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: a wildcard team, you take care you find a way

1748
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 3: to win this game. I could see them slipping up here.

1749
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 3: Well that that would be feels like a game they

1750
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 3: would lose.

1751
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 4: That would go against most of what I said on Wednesdays.

1752
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 4: So that would be disturbing.

1753
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,640
Speaker 2: You need to see those Zach Moss carries in the playoffs.

1754
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: Please Colts win some games.

1755
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 5: I found a real revenge game by the way.

1756
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 4: Okay, uh, Panthers going to Tampa Bay Carolina getting five points.

1757
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield revenge game. I mean they nearly ended his

1758
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,679
Speaker 4: career last year, and I think he's having an okay season.

1759
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 3: I mean he's they fired three coaches.

1760
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 6: That is it a revenge game?

1761
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 3: When you sucked like that was well, that's always been

1762
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 3: a thing that I made him look even worse than

1763
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: he was.

1764
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 5: That's what I think is true.

1765
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, but then Donald took over and was better.

1766
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 3: But Donald was terrible.

1767
01:16:55,040 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 5: He was not great. Actually, they also just started run times.

1768
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 3: The only reason Baker came in was because wasn't it

1769
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 3: because Baker was bench. It was because Darnald was bench.

1770
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 5: I don't remember anymore that he got involved in that

1771
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 5: sense too.

1772
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 4: Did a Baker start the season, Yes, he lost to Cleveland,

1773
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 4: I believe in the opener, and then they went downhill

1774
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 4: from there.

1775
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 5: And then there's a little p J. There was Donald

1776
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 5: and Steve Donald.

1777
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 3: Darnold had a good handful of weeks.

1778
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 2: And anyway, we could say the Panthers ruined Baker Mayfield.

1779
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:25,799
Speaker 2: But Baker's Baker's Baker.

1780
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 5: You know, he doesn't change.

1781
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 4: But I do think that, like in every game he's

1782
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 4: making an arg I thought his career could have been

1783
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 4: over just because of the dynamic and being a first

1784
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 4: round pick and probably not wanting to be a backup.

1785
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 4: Like I don't think he's a starter after this season.

1786
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 4: It depends on what happens to these teams. But Baker

1787
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 4: Mayfield will hang around for a while because in every

1788
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 4: one of these.

1789
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 5: Games, I would love Baker as Aaron Rodgers' backup next year.

1790
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: That would be perfect, great, Like you're only making three

1791
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 3: million dollars. I was just thinking, like pure value wise,

1792
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 3: that was a great signing, Like, is there a difference.

1793
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 3: Is there a huge difference between him and you don't

1794
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 3: Derek Carr? Like Derek Carr can thirty plus and Baker

1795
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 3: making three and like they're in the same ballpark. Ultimately,

1796
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 3: so they hit they did as well. This possibly could have. Yeah,

1797
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 3: but that's so that is like it.

1798
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 5: Is big on Baker.

1799
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 4: But that's what I mean kind of by what the

1800
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 4: Panthers did to Baker and Revengel. They probably cost him

1801
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 4: a ton of money. He's part of that, but they

1802
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 4: cost him a ton of money.

1803
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 3: Did Sess Spice picked the Panthers in this one because

1804
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 3: this is the fired coach principal here they are five point?

1805
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 6: Did they get the Masachi bump here right?

1806
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 3: Because it's like I think they might get a little bump.

1807
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: But I was reminded last week watching that game, as

1808
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 3: they had these injuries last week during that game, they

1809
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 3: were missing their top the Panthers, their top two tight ends,

1810
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 3: their top three cornerbacks, their top three guards. I mean,

1811
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 3: it's like when it happens all at one position. Toman

1812
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 3: got hurt right game right, and then other people getting hurt.

1813
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 3: That's it's a lot of people.

1814
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: I was so I needed to like medicate after watching

1815
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: the Panthers last Sunday. I will not draft a Panther

1816
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 2: game for the rest of the season if I can

1817
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 2: help it, and if it's a thirty six minute game, rewatch,

1818
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 2: I will. I will white knuckle my way through it.

1819
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: But they are a tough, tough, tough situation.

1820
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 6: I feel for you. I feel for you, o Nation,

1821
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 6: because well, what about me?

1822
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,799
Speaker 5: I'll be watching it on Sunday.

1823
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel for you.

1824
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 5: Well, you guys are like giggling about your little lock

1825
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 5: over there.

1826
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 3: Whoa, we got a lock here, we got a lock.

1827
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: Oh, let's head to the Cincinnati Zoo and no, I

1828
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 2: just want to say, let me finish my thought.

1829
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,560
Speaker 5: Keep pounding, Nation. I feel you hanging there. Maybe it

1830
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 5: gets better.

1831
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 2: It feels it's as dark as you can get right now,

1832
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: with the QB struggling and the owner going off and they're.

1833
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 6: Really not having the first overall pick. It's very It

1834
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 6: just sucks.

1835
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 5: It might be time to jump ship.

1836
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 6: Don't do it.

1837
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 3: There was a last week that to me explained the

1838
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 3: Panther season. There was an injury cart I forget who.

1839
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 3: They were carding to the locker room and they were

1840
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 3: bringing them there, and then on the way there someone

1841
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 3: got hurt and they had to back up the cart

1842
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 3: to bring another player because like they were like, we

1843
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 3: got to bring home. I forget who it was, but

1844
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 3: like we're backing up the cart to get two players

1845
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 3: on the cart.

1846
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,520
Speaker 5: It doesn't even feel like petically, like was that necessary?

1847
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, but they did it.

1848
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 2: I mean, they didn't finish their facility, so they I

1849
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 2: guess they can't afford the second cart. Let's have too,

1850
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: let's have a backup cart ready, all right, Now to

1851
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Zoo.

1852
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 7: Bol guys, no video this week, but the Cincinnati Zoo

1853
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 7: will be locking up.

1854
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:30,479
Speaker 6: The bucks over the panthers.

1855
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 3: I thought they were gonna get no.

1856
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 2: No because now now Nick the zoo keeper, he smells

1857
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: it like what he was doing earlier was for show

1858
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:41,799
Speaker 2: and he was figuring out how to be a showman.

1859
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 7: Now he's right, he wants that he wants to strap

1860
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 7: no message this or video this week. But the message

1861
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 7: I came along with the pick, well, I will be

1862
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 7: taking the Rusenthal approach and locking the bucks over the panthers.

1863
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, you could do He's doing

1864
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 3: it for a week, Like I just don't want to

1865
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: hear that he's so bold and he's locking against the

1866
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 3: one and eleven team on the road. But I don't

1867
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 3: have a problem with it because I don't think any

1868
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 3: locks are truly locks, and I wouldn't surprise me somehow

1869
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 3: if the Panthers just freaking found a way. You never know,

1870
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 3: fired coach principal. Yeah the video, huh, all right, that's it,

1871
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 3: Thank you again. This is the APN triple header, so

1872
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 3: you could get this preview. You can get NFL Plus

1873
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 3: dreamatorium f on the Zone or NFL Plus.

1874
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 6: And the Thursday night recap will be in your feed

1875
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 6: later tonight. Till then you know what you gotta do.

1876
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 3: Heed the call.