1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,880 Jodie Sweetin: Welcome back to she Pivots. I'm Jodie Sweeten. 2 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,880 ETS: Welcome back to she Pivots, the podcast where we talk 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,520 ETS: with women who dare to pivot out of one career 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,160 ETS: and into something new and explore how their personal lives 5 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:33,960 ETS: impacts these decisions. I'm your host, Emily Tish Sussman. This week, 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:40,480 ETS: I'm delighted to share Jody Sweeton's story. Jody is an author, producer, counselor, 7 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,480 ETS: and most notably, an actress who has graced our screens 8 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,400 ETS: as Stephanie Tanner and the iconic shows Full House and 9 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,720 ETS: Fuller House. I knew I wanted to have Jody on 10 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,040 ETS: as soon as I heard her story. I always say 11 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,240 ETS: that everything builds upon itself, and the only way that 12 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,400 ETS: I was able to connect with Jodi is because when 13 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,960 ETS: I worked on the Harris campaign, I made these new, 14 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,240 ETS: incredible connections through my coworkers and through colleagues. And when 15 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,320 ETS: I realized that one of my new colleagues was connected 16 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,520 ETS: to Jody, I reached out and was like, I know 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,640 ETS: we're talking about campaign, but I am dying to have 18 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,560 ETS: this conversation with Jody. Do you think it would be 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,039 ETS: okay to make the connection? And so we are able 20 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,160 ETS: to tell Jody's story here on she pivots right now. 21 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,720 ETS: What makes Jody's story interesting to me is that she 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,480 ETS: experienced the full arc of career highs and lows by 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,959 ETS: just thirteen. When Full House ended, what was a wonderful 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,600 ETS: and supportive environment for her during her formative years was 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,000 ETS: suddenly gone, and what followed was a decade's long struggle 26 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,600 ETS: with addiction. And while it may seem obvious to attribute 27 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,680 ETS: her battle with addiction to being a child star, it 28 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:55,440 ETS: was actually something deeper, she says, something more biological. Jody's 29 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,040 ETS: parents were actually her adoptive parents, and as for her 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,880 ETS: biological parents, and they both struggled with addiction. As she'll 31 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,920 ETS: share in the episode, Jody had a genetic predisposition to alcoholism, 32 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,160 ETS: but surrounded by the love of her parents and her 33 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,239 ETS: second Full House family, Jody put in the hard work 34 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,000 ETS: and is in recovery. As if navigating the loss of 35 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,919 ETS: your second family and career at thirteen wasn't enough of 36 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,720 ETS: a pivot, Jody decided to channel her own experiences into 37 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,480 ETS: becoming a sobriety counselor. She went back to school and 38 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,600 ETS: worked at a drug treatment facility until she returned as 39 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,520 ETS: Stephanie Tanner on Fuller House. Despite her challenges, she has 40 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,359 ETS: come to have a beautiful outlook on life and what 41 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,720 ETS: true success looks like. She is a breath of fresh 42 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:51,639 ETS: air and I can't wait for you to hear her story. Enjoy. 43 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:58,560 Jodie Sweetin: My name is Jody Sweeten, and I am an actress, author, mom, podcaster, 44 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,799 Jodie Sweetin: and I don't know, probably a few other hats too. 45 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,080 ETS: Okay, so we're gonna rewind. We're going to go to 46 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,920 ETS: like little Jody. Okay, I mean you started acting so young, 47 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,480 ETS: But did you have ideas of like what you wanted 48 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,279 ETS: to be when you grew up? Was it always an actress? 49 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,840 Jodie Sweetin: I mean, I you know, I cycled through the usual 50 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Jodie Sweetin: things as a kid of like doctor, astronauts, veterinarian, you know, 51 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,000 Jodie Sweetin: marine biologists. I feel like those are the top four 52 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,720 Jodie Sweetin: that kids go for because they're like I like dolphins, 53 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:31,640 Jodie Sweetin: I like dogs. 54 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,840 Jodie Sweetin: I you know, space is cool. 55 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,600 Jodie Sweetin: But no, as a kid, I you know, I just 56 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,080 Jodie Sweetin: I loved performing, Like even if it was just my family, 57 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Jodie Sweetin: I would, you know, find a little musical instrument and 58 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,120 Jodie Sweetin: like come out and jump and perform and sing a 59 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:46,560 Jodie Sweetin: little thing. 60 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Jodie Sweetin: And you know, I started reading at a really early age. 61 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Jodie Sweetin: So I was I was precocious, and I you know, 62 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,760 Jodie Sweetin: by by three three and a half, I was able 63 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,200 Jodie Sweetin: to read, start reading. By four, I was able to 64 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Jodie Sweetin: read just about anything. I might not have known the 65 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,360 Jodie Sweetin: contact of it, but yeah, I was a. 66 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Jodie Sweetin: Very early reader. And I'm still a voracious reader. 67 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,760 Jodie Sweetin: But it really kind of led to me enjoying bringing 68 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,840 Jodie Sweetin: characters to life, enjoying creativity, and you know, all those 69 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,320 Jodie Sweetin: sorts of things. 70 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,200 Jodie Sweetin: I mean, my mom always tells. There's a couple of 71 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:18,080 Jodie Sweetin: stories that she tells. 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Jodie Sweetin: One is me at tot Lot, which was like the 73 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,320 Jodie Sweetin: little preschool thing, and I was dressed as snow white, 74 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,359 Jodie Sweetin: complete with a black wig costume. 75 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,760 Jodie Sweetin: My mom made took it very seriously, and so I would. 76 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,320 Jodie Sweetin: Be running around the little sandbox area and then I 77 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,120 Jodie Sweetin: just suddenly fall and collapse, and the moms would be like, 78 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,960 Jodie Sweetin: oh no, what happened? And my mom was like, oh no, no, no, no. 79 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,400 Jodie Sweetin: She just ate she ate the boys and Apple. It's fine, 80 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,760 Jodie Sweetin: just let her be sure. She's just waiting for the prince. 81 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,279 Jodie Sweetin: And my best friend Jeffrey, who was just always there 82 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,080 Jodie Sweetin: like what do you need? I was like, okay, you're 83 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,480 Jodie Sweetin: the prince, and so yeah, it was you know, I 84 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,760 Jodie Sweetin: was both an actor and director at a very young age. 85 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,159 ETS: The commitment to the character. But so when did that 86 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,640 ETS: just being dramatic turn into a potential for a career, Like, 87 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,599 ETS: was there a decision that you are now acting? 88 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,840 Jodie Sweetin: Yeah, you know, I said that I wanted to be 89 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,480 Jodie Sweetin: what I called it was a modeler. At like three 90 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Jodie Sweetin: and a half four, I was like, Mommy, I want 91 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,000 Jodie Sweetin: to be a modeler. And that was what I called 92 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,120 Jodie Sweetin: people on TV. And you know, my mom was like, well, 93 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,160 Jodie Sweetin: do have some like little talent show pageant things and 94 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,039 Jodie Sweetin: you know, some print stuff. And it just kind of 95 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,880 Jodie Sweetin: kept going and kept going, and people would be like, 96 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Jodie Sweetin: She's like I think she would really do great at this, 97 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,160 Jodie Sweetin: Like she's a really fun, interesting kid. And my mom 98 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,359 Jodie Sweetin: was like, I mean, you know, okay, you know my 99 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,480 Jodie Sweetin: parents had no connection to the industry, didn't want to 100 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,280 Jodie Sweetin: be famous in any way. 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Jodie Sweetin: You know, they are both very much like no thanks, 102 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,599 Jodie Sweetin: where yes you could go ahead and do that. 103 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Jodie Sweetin: But yeah, it was probably around three and a half 104 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,480 Jodie Sweetin: four and I and it just kind of snowballed from 105 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,040 Jodie Sweetin: there truly, where it was like one thing led to another. 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Jodie Sweetin: I started doing commercials around four and then just booking 107 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,159 Jodie Sweetin: a bunch of commercials and then like you know, sort 108 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Jodie Sweetin: of all unfolded from that. 109 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,120 ETS: What unfolded from there was landing a role on what 110 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,480 ETS: was to become one of the most popular family sitcoms 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:14,920 ETS: of its day, Full House. Full House. Obviously game changing 112 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,160 ETS: for your young acting career, for all of us, I 113 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,680 ETS: would say, who are also watching it? Oh for sure, 114 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,200 ETS: do you remember the beginning? I mean, you're again you 115 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,760 ETS: were so young, But do you remember forming those early relationships, 116 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,039 ETS: Like what were the dynamics like even from the beginning 117 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,919 ETS: between all of you? 118 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,719 Jodie Sweetin: Oh yeah, I mean I definitely remember. I mean I 119 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,479 Jodie Sweetin: have so many pictures and stuff too, So it's, you know, 120 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:38,880 Jodie Sweetin: one of those things where it's like do I do 121 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,000 Jodie Sweetin: I have the live memory or the memory of the photograph, 122 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,160 Jodie Sweetin: But either way, it's in there. 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,240 Jodie Sweetin: We were just really lucky on the. 124 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:50,919 Jodie Sweetin: Show because everyone from the producers to the cast, to 125 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Jodie Sweetin: the parents of the kids on the show, just everybody 126 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:02,480 Jodie Sweetin: was good, genuine family people. It was an environment that 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,320 Jodie Sweetin: put the kids first, not always the case, as we 128 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,599 Jodie Sweetin: hear a lot in this business, you know, and yes 129 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Jodie Sweetin: it's still a job, and there were things, you know 130 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,840 Jodie Sweetin: that you had to show up and do, but like 131 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,560 Jodie Sweetin: from the beginning, we just clicked, you know, And it 132 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,720 Jodie Sweetin: really was the adults on the show, Bob and John 133 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,800 Jodie Sweetin: and Dave and then later on Lori, they were just 134 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,280 Jodie Sweetin: they were like family to us. I mean, it was 135 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,880 Jodie Sweetin: that was just genuinely who they were. You know. John 136 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,679 Jodie Sweetin: would throw huge barbecues at his house for the cast 137 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,720 Jodie Sweetin: and the crew at the beginning of every season just 138 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,480 Jodie Sweetin: to get to know each other and every like. It 139 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Jodie Sweetin: wasn't just the cast, but it was you know, our 140 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,239 Jodie Sweetin: our crew and our script supervisors and our wardrobe people 141 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,320 Jodie Sweetin: like we were all close and a family and have 142 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,600 Jodie Sweetin: remained in contact. And it's it's something that we hear 143 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,240 Jodie Sweetin: over and over again from people in this business, how like, 144 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Jodie Sweetin: really truly rare. It was, so it just some little 145 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,920 Jodie Sweetin: magical things sort of happened where we all. 146 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,560 ETS: We all just clicked. Yeah, that's amazing. I mean you 147 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,040 ETS: said that parental support is critical for a child to 148 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,480 ETS: start in acting. How was your parental support It sounds 149 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,040 ETS: like really supplemented in many ways by your cast support 150 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,320 ETS: and by your production support. 151 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,400 Jodie Sweetin: Oh for sure. I was raised as an only child. 152 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,800 Jodie Sweetin: My dad was older than my mom and had several 153 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,960 Jodie Sweetin: adult kids from a first marriage. And so, you know, 154 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Jodie Sweetin: when they adopted me, my mom decided to be a 155 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,760 Jodie Sweetin: stay at home mom and it was just me, so 156 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,880 Jodie Sweetin: going driving back and forth from Lakewood, California to La back. 157 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,280 Jodie Sweetin: Also in the mid eighties when you could do that 158 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,200 Jodie Sweetin: in like forty minutes, and you know, she had time, 159 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,320 Jodie Sweetin: and so she was absolutely available and she could be 160 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,680 Jodie Sweetin: with me on set, drive me to all the auditions. 161 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,200 Jodie Sweetin: You know, there was there wasn't another sibling at home 162 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,160 Jodie Sweetin: to kind of worry about, So my mom was just 163 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,520 Jodie Sweetin: always there with me, and my dad was always supportive. 164 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,080 Jodie Sweetin: But he my dad worked a very you know, normal 165 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,480 Jodie Sweetin: blue collar job as a superintendent at a gypsum plant 166 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,800 Jodie Sweetin: in Long Beach, which is what they make drywall out of, 167 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Jodie Sweetin: and he worked there all throughout me being on the show. 168 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,680 Jodie Sweetin: So you know, we were a really normal, you know, 169 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Jodie Sweetin: outside of this weird TV thing that I was doing, 170 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Jodie Sweetin: like a weird, normal, relatively middle class Orange County family, 171 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Jodie Sweetin: you know what I mean. So my mom and dad 172 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,000 Jodie Sweetin: always told me that as long as I loved doing it, 173 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,240 Jodie Sweetin: they would support me, and if I didn't want to 174 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,040 Jodie Sweetin: do it anymore, then that was okay, and it was 175 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:26,679 Jodie Sweetin: my choice. 176 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,079 Jodie Sweetin: And obviously, you know don't quit in the middle of 177 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:29,600 Jodie Sweetin: the season. 178 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,040 Jodie Sweetin: But something happens and you really don't want to do 179 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Jodie Sweetin: this anymore, then we need to talk. So it was 180 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,280 Jodie Sweetin: never there was never a pressure like some parents I 181 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,199 Jodie Sweetin: think put on their kids in this business. 182 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:45,000 ETS: And her education was no exception. Both her parents and 183 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,280 ETS: the show want of the kids to maintain a semblance 184 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,079 ETS: of normalcy during these formative years growing up. 185 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,080 Jodie Sweetin: Well, I mean I started school right when I started 186 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,320 Jodie Sweetin: full house, so I started kindergarten. 187 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Jodie Sweetin: I was only in kindergarten for like two days. 188 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,160 Jodie Sweetin: I skipped a grade, so I was already a little 189 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,480 Jodie Sweetin: younger than all the kids in my class. But I 190 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,000 Jodie Sweetin: would be kind of in and out. I went to 191 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,760 Jodie Sweetin: public schools except for I think two years. I went 192 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,680 Jodie Sweetin: to a private school in Orange County. The rest it was, 193 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,000 Jodie Sweetin: you know, all public schools. Once we got our normal 194 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,200 Jodie Sweetin: kind of routine down, would go to school in the 195 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,319 Jodie Sweetin: morning and work in the afternoon. My mom would pick 196 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,280 Jodie Sweetin: me up at lunch and drive me in for rehearsal days, 197 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Jodie Sweetin: and then I had a couple of days I was 198 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,880 Jodie Sweetin: schooled on set, so I had very much a foot 199 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:32,560 Jodie Sweetin: in normal life too. And our producers and everyone knew 200 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,079 Jodie Sweetin: how important that was for us kids. You know, we 201 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,760 Jodie Sweetin: all had the ability to attend a regular school several 202 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Jodie Sweetin: days a week and not completely be isolated and only 203 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,640 Jodie Sweetin: schooled on set and not have any you know, peer interaction. 204 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,320 ETS: Yeah, what was that peer interaction? Like, I mean, I 205 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,679 ETS: can't imagine someone sort of like casually being on one 206 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:53,960 ETS: of the biggest shows in the country. 207 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,120 Jodie Sweetin: I mean, like it depended on how new I was 208 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,680 Jodie Sweetin: to the school. You know, like usually you know, my 209 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,160 Jodie Sweetin: first school in like first grade, that a lot of 210 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,960 Jodie Sweetin: that year I wasn't there because we didn't quite have 211 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,840 Jodie Sweetin: our like routine down for shortened rehearsal days and all 212 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,880 Jodie Sweetin: that kind of stuff, so that I was a little 213 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,000 Jodie Sweetin: bit more in and out for first grade. And then 214 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,400 Jodie Sweetin: again being kind of pushed up into that grade and 215 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,880 Jodie Sweetin: not knowing anybody from my preschool or my you know 216 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,120 Jodie Sweetin: that I had kind of grown up with in my 217 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,200 Jodie Sweetin: neighborhood and suddenly being in a different class. But you know, 218 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Jodie Sweetin: I it was like sometimes kids would be weird about it. 219 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,200 Jodie Sweetin: And then if I you know, if I had been 220 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,400 Jodie Sweetin: there for a little while, like second and third grade, 221 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,439 Jodie Sweetin: I went to that private school, and like, you know, 222 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,680 Jodie Sweetin: first some kids were weird about it, but mostly no, 223 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,679 Jodie Sweetin: Like at first yes, and then they'd just kind of 224 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,600 Jodie Sweetin: be like, oh, it's just normal. And there were always 225 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,480 Jodie Sweetin: the ones that like held onto some weird resentment or 226 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,280 Jodie Sweetin: jealousy or whatever. But I was never one of those 227 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,439 Jodie Sweetin: kids that was like, oh, I'm on TV. I never 228 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,400 Jodie Sweetin: watched the show. I never I didn't care, Like, I 229 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,719 Jodie Sweetin: just really was like, it's just just what I do 230 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,440 Jodie Sweetin: like because I enjoy it. Like, I don't need I'm 231 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,080 Jodie Sweetin: not impressed by you guys, So don't think that I 232 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,760 Jodie Sweetin: like think I'm cooler than you because I don't. 233 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:08,800 ETS: Well, on the show, we talk a lot about what 234 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,959 ETS: success means to people at different stages of their lives. 235 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,840 ETS: So what did success look like to you during that period? 236 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:16,959 Jodie Sweetin: Oh? 237 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,200 Jodie Sweetin: Man, I guess like during that period it was I 238 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,359 Jodie Sweetin: just I got to have so many amazing, incredible experiences 239 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,200 Jodie Sweetin: on the set of Full House like I had. You know, 240 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,600 Jodie Sweetin: we didn't I didn't get to go on field trips, 241 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,360 Jodie Sweetin: but we would, you know, our our school teacher would 242 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,520 Jodie Sweetin: arrange for us to go on a weekend down to 243 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,040 Jodie Sweetin: the San Diego Zoo and you know meet with the 244 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,200 Jodie Sweetin: you know, zoologists there and stuff like we were. We 245 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Jodie Sweetin: definitely got to be included in that stuff. So to me, 246 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,840 Jodie Sweetin: success was really just like getting to enjoy all of 247 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:50,679 Jodie Sweetin: these fun activities. 248 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,360 Jodie Sweetin: I was getting to do something I loved. 249 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,439 Jodie Sweetin: I absolutely loved performing and acting school was fun, you know. 250 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,240 Jodie Sweetin: I always liked it. 251 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,600 Jodie Sweetin: Yeah, I guess success for me at that age was like, 252 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,079 Jodie Sweetin: just get to travel and have fun and be around 253 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,480 Jodie Sweetin: sun people and laugh all the time and it was great. 254 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,800 ETS: Did you ever have like a show business metric of 255 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,400 ETS: success at that point, like were you trying to get 256 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:17,240 ETS: to movies, a next show, you know something, viewership? No, 257 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,800 ETS: it was just it was as long as it was fun. 258 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,559 Jodie Sweetin: It was just as long as it Yeah, it was 259 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,080 Jodie Sweetin: as long as it was fun. And you know, it 260 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,760 Jodie Sweetin: was also a very different era. It was nineteen eighty six. 261 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:30,240 Jodie Sweetin: You had your network television, you know, and some cable, 262 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Jodie Sweetin: but it was once you were on a show, you 263 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,680 Jodie Sweetin: were on a show for a little while and everyone 264 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Jodie Sweetin: knew it. And so that was a pretty successful place 265 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,360 Jodie Sweetin: to be. And as a kid, it was like, I don't. 266 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:39,640 Jodie Sweetin: Know what I want. 267 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,800 Jodie Sweetin: I just was enjoying it for the moment. And I 268 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,400 Jodie Sweetin: wasn't one of those kids it was like I need 269 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,240 Jodie Sweetin: to be famous. I was like, this is cool, like, 270 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,960 Jodie Sweetin: I have fun doing this, but I can do other stuff, 271 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,040 Jodie Sweetin: you know, So I don't think it was ever like 272 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,520 Jodie Sweetin: vital to me to be famous. 273 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,800 ETS: So many of our guests go through their quote low 274 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,760 ETS: point when they are well into their career or at 275 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:04,480 ETS: the very least older. But Jody's world changed suddenly when 276 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,040 ETS: Full House ended when she was just thirteen. She was 277 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,360 ETS: barely a teenager at that point, and losing something so 278 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,520 ETS: integral to her life and support system was devastating. 279 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,720 Jodie Sweetin: Hindsight always is twenty twenty, and of course, looking back 280 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,119 Jodie Sweetin: on it now, what I realized is I was definitely 281 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,160 Jodie Sweetin: in a period of grief. Nobody had died, but the 282 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,560 Jodie Sweetin: way that most of my life had been up until 283 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,680 Jodie Sweetin: that point suddenly was not anymore. And we didn't have 284 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Jodie Sweetin: very long We only, you know, found out about two 285 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,800 Jodie Sweetin: weeks before we were done with the season that that 286 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,560 Jodie Sweetin: was going to be it. There had been talk of 287 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,960 Jodie Sweetin: us going to WB or CW whatever, it was, a 288 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,000 Jodie Sweetin: couple other things, and then it just didn't happen, and 289 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,600 Jodie Sweetin: so two weeks before they were like, actually after next week, 290 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,360 Jodie Sweetin: that's it. So I think I was grieving. I was 291 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,440 Jodie Sweetin: grieving that this idea of what had come to be 292 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Jodie Sweetin: my normal. So it was it was less like, oh 293 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,560 Jodie Sweetin: my gosh, I'm not going to be on TV anymore. 294 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,320 Jodie Sweetin: I'm more just like, well, now what do I do? 295 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,320 Jodie Sweetin: Like okay, so I'm just like at school all the time, like, 296 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,440 Jodie Sweetin: and there was an appeal to that, you know. There 297 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,160 Jodie Sweetin: was also like, oh, to just be normal, like you know, 298 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,640 Jodie Sweetin: to just go to all seven periods every day and 299 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,160 Jodie Sweetin: be miserable like all the other kids. 300 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, like I think at the. 301 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:30,080 Jodie Sweetin: Time, I didn't probably give myself enough consideration about what 302 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,560 Jodie Sweetin: I was going through. Like I certainly wasn't talking to 303 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,040 Jodie Sweetin: anybody about it. I didn't you know, there was nobody 304 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,400 Jodie Sweetin: that I could talk to in my direct daily life 305 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,800 Jodie Sweetin: of like you know, like my mom understood a little bit, 306 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,120 Jodie Sweetin: but there was just a different thing to it. 307 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,760 Jodie Sweetin: So I think I entered a period and at thirteen, 308 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,240 Jodie Sweetin: you're like, who the hell am I? Anyway? 309 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,560 Jodie Sweetin: And then at on top of it, you know, I 310 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,560 Jodie Sweetin: was adopted at fourteen months old, so you know, I 311 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,880 Jodie Sweetin: had this I only knew bits and pieces of like 312 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,320 Jodie Sweetin: my biological family, So there was also a layer of 313 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,280 Jodie Sweetin: like who am I in regards to that, And so 314 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,960 Jodie Sweetin: I think at thirteen it was like a really big 315 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,160 Jodie Sweetin: upheaval and crisis of who am I now? 316 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,360 Jodie Sweetin: And what where do I go from here? What do 317 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Jodie Sweetin: I want to do? 318 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,360 Jodie Sweetin: Like, you know, at thirteen, I had to ask myself, 319 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,000 Jodie Sweetin: do I want to keep having a job? 320 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:18,320 ETS: You know? 321 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:19,960 Jodie Sweetin: Like sure, I guess, you know. 322 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,320 Jodie Sweetin: And I was like, yeah, okay, because it was easy 323 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,400 Jodie Sweetin: to just agree to it, but like my heart wasn't 324 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,680 Jodie Sweetin: as in it, because I was enjoying being a normal kid. 325 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Jodie Sweetin: So you know, there was a lot of push and 326 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Jodie Sweetin: pull I think at that time. And yeah, looking back 327 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,800 Jodie Sweetin: on it now, I would have a lot more grace 328 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,360 Jodie Sweetin: and sympathy for that thirteen year old who was like 329 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,200 Jodie Sweetin: just feeling really lost. 330 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,640 ETS: Jody continued to struggle, and soon she started to experiment 331 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,080 ETS: with alcohol, unknowingly opening a Pandora's box. 332 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,120 Jodie Sweetin: I started drinking at around thirteen, and it was like, 333 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,240 Jodie Sweetin: you know, I think, like stealing a Budweiser from somebody's 334 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,720 Jodie Sweetin: step dad's you know, outside fridge or whatever. It was beginning, 335 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,320 Jodie Sweetin: and I realized pretty quickly that it was doing something 336 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,680 Jodie Sweetin: for me that it maybe didn't necessarily do for everyone else, 337 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,000 Jodie Sweetin: and that it gave me a sense of peace and 338 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,480 Jodie Sweetin: it was something that I was that I just was 339 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,240 Jodie Sweetin: searching for more than other people that relief. 340 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,560 Jodie Sweetin: And throughout high school, you know, it got more and more. 341 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,199 Jodie Sweetin: I'd say, like my junior and senior year, I was 342 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Jodie Sweetin: still getting good grades, I was going to school. I 343 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,080 Jodie Sweetin: wasn't a problem, teachers liked me, you know, but I 344 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:33,160 Jodie Sweetin: was just every opportunity to do the stupid thing or 345 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,359 Jodie Sweetin: to be in you know, And it was always a 346 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Jodie Sweetin: stupid thing, either in search of or under the influence 347 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,600 Jodie Sweetin: of drugs and alcohol, you know, Like that was the 348 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,480 Jodie Sweetin: repeating pattern for me. Was always looking to get alcohol 349 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,639 Jodie Sweetin: or weird or whatever, or being on it and making 350 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,240 Jodie Sweetin: poor decisions. And so my parents were just like they 351 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,399 Jodie Sweetin: were terrified. By the time I was getting to be 352 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,359 Jodie Sweetin: a senior in high school, they knew I was going 353 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Jodie Sweetin: to be heading off to college, you know, and they 354 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,280 Jodie Sweetin: were like, oh my god, you are incapable of making 355 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,479 Jodie Sweetin: the responsible choice. 356 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Jodie Sweetin: And it was more than that. 357 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,240 Jodie Sweetin: Obviously. It wasn't just about like, oh, I want to 358 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,880 Jodie Sweetin: have fun. It was like I just felt so much 359 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,640 Jodie Sweetin: less judged. 360 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,520 Jodie Sweetin: It was it muted everything, you know what I mean. 361 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:22,000 Jodie Sweetin: And it also allowed me to be more extreme and 362 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,600 Jodie Sweetin: to get angry or upset or things. I lived and 363 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,720 Jodie Sweetin: It's funny because I think most people say, you know, 364 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,240 Jodie Sweetin: they drink so that they can kind of be a 365 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,080 Jodie Sweetin: little more stable. And it was like I was so 366 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,480 Jodie Sweetin: afraid to let out some of my more negative emotions 367 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,560 Jodie Sweetin: I think growing up and still it's something I work 368 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,400 Jodie Sweetin: on in therapy. But it gave me the excuse, I guess, 369 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,360 Jodie Sweetin: to cry or be upset, or to be angry or 370 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,199 Jodie Sweetin: you know. And so when that is, you know, the 371 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,719 Jodie Sweetin: excuse that you use for your drinking, you often make 372 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,000 Jodie Sweetin: very poor choices in getting angry or being that crying, 373 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,439 Jodie Sweetin: blubbering person. You know. 374 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,879 Jodie Sweetin: It was just in a lot of pain and super lonely. 375 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,639 ETS: After years of hard work and therapy, Jody is able 376 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,920 ETS: to look back and better understand the how and the 377 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,000 ETS: why of it all. 378 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:17,359 Jodie Sweetin: People always assumed, but peers and just people in general 379 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,720 Jodie Sweetin: always assumed that I thought I was better than everyone else, 380 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Jodie Sweetin: that because I was on TV or I was able 381 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,200 Jodie Sweetin: to buy a nice first car for myself or pay 382 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:34,200 Jodie Sweetin: for college, that I somehow would be an asshole, you 383 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,840 Jodie Sweetin: know what I mean, That I would be stuck up 384 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,439 Jodie Sweetin: and this and that, and it was it was a 385 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,760 Jodie Sweetin: weird way for me to try and like level the 386 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,760 Jodie Sweetin: playing field of being like, oh no, I'm just as 387 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,840 Jodie Sweetin: much of a mess as you are. 388 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,960 Jodie Sweetin: In fact, I'm even worse. Like I'm not better than you, 389 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:51,160 Jodie Sweetin: I'm worse than you. 390 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,000 Jodie Sweetin: And that didn't occur to me at the time obviously, 391 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,359 Jodie Sweetin: like as I've broken it down, like oh yeah, it was, 392 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,240 Jodie Sweetin: you know, this attempt to be like, oh, I'm messier 393 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,640 Jodie Sweetin: than you are, I'm more of a fuck, I'm more 394 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Jodie Sweetin: you know, look at me. 395 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,160 Jodie Sweetin: I don't think I'm so special. 396 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,480 Jodie Sweetin: And then it was also pieces of you know, all 397 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,840 Jodie Sweetin: I knew about my biological parents at the time was 398 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,280 Jodie Sweetin: that they both struggled with drug and alcohol use, and 399 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,040 Jodie Sweetin: so there was also this weird sense of it being 400 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,040 Jodie Sweetin: the only thing that I knew about them and that 401 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,080 Jodie Sweetin: I connected with them on that. Okay, well, obviously, like 402 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,720 Jodie Sweetin: I have some issues with this too. I mean even 403 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,040 Jodie Sweetin: at fifteen sixteen, I was like, yeah, I don't think, 404 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,399 Jodie Sweetin: like drinking in the morning is probably normal for like 405 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,960 Jodie Sweetin: fifteen sixteen. And but yet it was almost this not 406 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,919 Jodie Sweetin: a point of pride, but a point of connection with 407 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,840 Jodie Sweetin: the only thing that I knew about, like where you know, 408 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,679 Jodie Sweetin: I quote unquote came from, you know, I think, and 409 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,760 Jodie Sweetin: that's we all have this weird like biological attachment to it, 410 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,720 Jodie Sweetin: and you know, especially as kids, were like, I need 411 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,800 Jodie Sweetin: to know. And usually then you get to be an 412 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,280 Jodie Sweetin: adult and you're like, actually things that we're just fine. 413 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,119 Jodie Sweetin: Yeah sometimes, but yeah, it was a you know, it 414 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,199 Jodie Sweetin: was both a way to prove to others that I 415 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:10,040 Jodie Sweetin: was not stuck up and also a way to connect 416 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,720 Jodie Sweetin: myself to some sort of answer to the question of 417 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,879 Jodie Sweetin: who am I. 418 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,760 ETS: When did it start to feel to you? It sounds 419 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,800 ETS: like you knew for a while during it that it 420 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,359 ETS: was an addiction problematic behavior. When did you accept that 421 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,760 ETS: to the point of taking action to getting sober the 422 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:30,280 ETS: first time? 423 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,399 Jodie Sweetin: I was just just past my eighteenth birthday and I 424 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,399 Jodie Sweetin: got sober for the first time. Then I you know, 425 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Jodie Sweetin: I was My first semester at college was a mess. 426 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,119 Jodie Sweetin: I was. 427 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,280 Jodie Sweetin: I had no ability to be responsible or make you know, 428 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,320 Jodie Sweetin: I had been so responsible my whole life, and then 429 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,080 Jodie Sweetin: it was like I had this freedom. 430 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,240 Jodie Sweetin: I could do whatever I wanted. 431 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,320 Jodie Sweetin: I could make every stupid choice that I wanted in 432 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,160 Jodie Sweetin: boy did I and I just I didn't have an 433 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,240 Jodie Sweetin: off switch once it was Once that switch got flipped, 434 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,280 Jodie Sweetin: it was like we're on, Like any stupid idea it, 435 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,119 Jodie Sweetin: we're doing it. And so by the time I was 436 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,119 Jodie Sweetin: just a little bit past eighteen, like it had already 437 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Jodie Sweetin: become very problematic. You know, I was intelligent and smart, 438 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,480 Jodie Sweetin: but I was getting a point nine GPA because I 439 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,560 Jodie Sweetin: just didn't go to any classes. My parents maybe come 440 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,000 Jodie Sweetin: home on weekends because they were afraid of me being 441 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,639 Jodie Sweetin: at the college campus because and it was a it 442 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Jodie Sweetin: was a largely commuter school. It was a small private 443 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,520 Jodie Sweetin: school in the city of Orange and Orange County, and 444 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,520 Jodie Sweetin: you know, my parents were like, Okay, you can be 445 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,359 Jodie Sweetin: there Monday through Thursday, but you have to come home 446 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,800 Jodie Sweetin: on the weekends because you know, your behavior has warranted 447 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Jodie Sweetin: that you're untrustworthy. But instead I just saw that as well, Great, 448 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,080 Jodie Sweetin: now i have Monday through Thursday, like Sunday night through 449 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,960 Jodie Sweetin: Thursday to party and then I'll just come home on 450 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,119 Jodie Sweetin: the weekends and sleep. 451 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,880 Jodie Sweetin: And that's pretty much what I did. 452 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,920 Jodie Sweetin: And it was just becoming very obvious that things were 453 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,760 Jodie Sweetin: not doing well. And that was you know, the first 454 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,320 Jodie Sweetin: time I got sober was just a little bit past 455 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,639 Jodie Sweetin: my eighteenth birthday, and that was really hard to be 456 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,360 Jodie Sweetin: going into like my sop my second year of college 457 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:13,119 Jodie Sweetin: and feeling again like such an outsider, like, oh, I 458 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,879 Jodie Sweetin: want you know, I wanted to rush a sorority, and 459 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,400 Jodie Sweetin: I did. And then I was like in the middle 460 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,080 Jodie Sweetin: of the pinning ceremony and I'm like, iven, I don't 461 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,600 Jodie Sweetin: like it these people. I don't want to do this, 462 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,640 Jodie Sweetin: Like it was just this this. I was just so 463 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,119 Jodie Sweetin: trying to find myself through other people, like who am I? 464 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,560 Jodie Sweetin: And I was looking for ways to get that reflected 465 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:37,040 Jodie Sweetin: back at me, you know. And and that didn't necessarily 466 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,919 Jodie Sweetin: get any easier getting sober at a young age, but 467 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,760 Jodie Sweetin: it definitely slowed things down a little bit, you know, 468 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,880 Jodie Sweetin: because I didn't It was like two and a half years, 469 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,280 Jodie Sweetin: maybe a little almost. 470 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:52,600 ETS: Three, right, and you got married during that time as well. 471 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,760 Jodie Sweetin: I did, like you know, any good overachiever. 472 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,960 Jodie Sweetin: Once I sort of got my act together, I would 473 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,600 Jodie Sweetin: back earning top of my class, I got my scholarship back, 474 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,280 Jodie Sweetin: I bought a house, I had jaw surgery. Over a summer, 475 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,679 Jodie Sweetin: I was planning a huge wedding, and I was doing 476 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,439 Jodie Sweetin: my last year of college all at once. And I've realized, 477 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,359 Jodie Sweetin: now that's a sort of a pattern in my behavior 478 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,000 Jodie Sweetin: where I'm like, I have to do it all right now, 479 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,399 Jodie Sweetin: and then I burned myself out. 480 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,639 Jodie Sweetin: But yeah, that was you know. 481 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,560 Jodie Sweetin: I got married the first time when I was twenty 482 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,440 Jodie Sweetin: and again I think I was just like, Okay, this 483 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,640 Jodie Sweetin: is what I'm supposed to do next, Like I've done 484 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,399 Jodie Sweetin: the job. Thing I've done, I've graduated college, like or 485 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,560 Jodie Sweetin: I was in the middle process of it. 486 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,680 Jodie Sweetin: It's like, okay, so I guess this is the next thing. 487 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,639 Jodie Sweetin: I think a lot of a lot of people do, 488 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,200 Jodie Sweetin: but particularly young women. We kind of just go like, well, 489 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,920 Jodie Sweetin: where do I now? What I have some of the things, 490 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,399 Jodie Sweetin: but like, am is this expected of me? Or is 491 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,240 Jodie Sweetin: that expected of me? 492 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,840 ETS: After the break, we talked with Jody about what eventually 493 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,200 ETS: led to her relapse and where she was mentally throughout 494 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:10,080 ETS: it all. And during that time, So you're the first 495 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,479 ETS: time you married it was to a police officer, and 496 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,280 ETS: your drug use started again. 497 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,080 Jodie Sweetin: Yes, I started drinking again because I was like, oh, 498 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,679 Jodie Sweetin: I you know, I'm twenty one now, like I'm older 499 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,440 Jodie Sweetin: and wiser, and I, you know, had talked myself into 500 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,760 Jodie Sweetin: the fact that I didn't that alcohol wouldn't be a problem. 501 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,280 Jodie Sweetin: I just didn't know how to do it. So I 502 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,000 Jodie Sweetin: decided for us to join a Wine of the month club. 503 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,280 Jodie Sweetin: That was my like easing back in like normal people. 504 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,320 Jodie Sweetin: And you know, immediately it was like, oh, yeah, this 505 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,200 Jodie Sweetin: is it's going to be hard for me to hide 506 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,320 Jodie Sweetin: the way I like to drink, which is too oblivion, 507 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:51,520 Jodie Sweetin: you know. And so I started doing drugs because it 508 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,600 Jodie Sweetin: was easier to hide, you know. I didn't break of drugs, 509 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,879 Jodie Sweetin: and he worked all night, and so I could be 510 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,199 Jodie Sweetin: out and about and come home at you know, or 511 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,760 Jodie Sweetin: five in the morning and nobody would know, you know, 512 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,480 Jodie Sweetin: and then I could go about my day and just 513 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,719 Jodie Sweetin: and you know, it was I was by no means 514 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:14,280 Jodie Sweetin: doing it perfectly, but I was for several years just 515 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,240 Jodie Sweetin: living like completely different lives. 516 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,080 ETS: Did you register it as a relapse at the time. 517 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,640 Jodie Sweetin: Yeah, at that point I was like, oh, okay, we're back. 518 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,920 Jodie Sweetin: And then I was like, well, you know, but my 519 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,800 Jodie Sweetin: my husband at the time, you know, there were times 520 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,399 Jodie Sweetin: I would tell me like I'm going to a meeting 521 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,359 Jodie Sweetin: and I was not going to a meeting, or I 522 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,399 Jodie Sweetin: would still go to meetings. 523 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,840 Jodie Sweetin: I had a coffee commitment at a meeting. 524 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,359 Jodie Sweetin: I would go, you know, I would go to recover 525 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,880 Jodie Sweetin: meetings and I'd like not be sober, but I'd make 526 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,320 Jodie Sweetin: the coffee and then I'd you know, then I'd take off. 527 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,760 Jodie Sweetin: So it was like this, you know, it was this 528 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Jodie Sweetin: weird knowing but also denial. You know, I've described it 529 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,359 Jodie Sweetin: before as like you're standing in front of a train 530 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,159 Jodie Sweetin: that you know is coming and you you just you're like, 531 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,240 Jodie Sweetin: I can't I don't know, I can't move, Like what 532 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,359 Jodie Sweetin: do I do? And you know, like there's just you'd 533 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,840 Jodie Sweetin: rather have it hit you and it be sudden, you 534 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,640 Jodie Sweetin: know what I mean, than be like, oh, I've got 535 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Jodie Sweetin: to get my act together, like you're almost like I'd 536 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,240 Jodie Sweetin: just rather get run over by this and have everything 537 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,399 Jodie Sweetin: blow up. And I think in some ways that was 538 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,439 Jodie Sweetin: what I was looking for, like how do how do 539 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,240 Jodie Sweetin: I blow things up instead of and you know, I 540 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,600 Jodie Sweetin: did that a lot of my life. Let me just 541 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Jodie Sweetin: blow things up instead of having an uncomfortable conversation or 542 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,879 Jodie Sweetin: saying what I need or want like but it was 543 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,640 Jodie Sweetin: like I just stopped, I stopped caring. I didn't care 544 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,080 Jodie Sweetin: like what happened to me, So why would anybody else? 545 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,600 Jodie Sweetin: You know, it was like and if you did, like, well, 546 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,560 Jodie Sweetin: then you're just going to get in my way. And 547 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,080 Jodie Sweetin: that was, you know, very much that sort of decision 548 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,719 Jodie Sweetin: making of my early twenties, and it was you know, 549 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,080 Jodie Sweetin: going to treatment, and there was periods of sobriety in 550 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,639 Jodie Sweetin: there and then going back to treatment, and then being sober, 551 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,520 Jodie Sweetin: and then being a sober living and then not and 552 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,160 Jodie Sweetin: you know, it was a very winding road through all 553 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,879 Jodie Sweetin: of it. The darkest moments for me weren't necessarily like 554 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,919 Jodie Sweetin: whinding from the hospital or anything like that. It was 555 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,840 Jodie Sweetin: those quiet moments when I just. 556 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,600 Jodie Sweetin: Hated the person that I had become, says. 557 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,760 ETS: She checked herself into the Promises Drug Rehab facility and 558 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,159 ETS: underwent six weeks of intense treatment. Now, she says, she 559 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,959 ETS: is sober and ready to return to acting. 560 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,480 Jodie Sweetin: You know, they talk about in sobriety that you will 561 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,560 Jodie Sweetin: get to this point where it's not the obsession is lifted, 562 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,920 Jodie Sweetin: you know. And I was someone I thought I would 563 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,199 Jodie Sweetin: die with a drink in my hand, you know, I 564 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,639 Jodie Sweetin: was like, that was my goal was to be, you know, 565 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,400 Jodie Sweetin: I don't know, little Eaty or something from Grey Gardens 566 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,879 Jodie Sweetin: and swanning about in a turban and a kaftan with a. 567 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,600 Jodie Sweetin: Drink in my hand. 568 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,920 Jodie Sweetin: That being said, I am a much sloppier drunk than that, 569 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,040 Jodie Sweetin: and it wouldn't be pretty and I probably wouldn't live 570 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,880 Jodie Sweetin: that long. So I had to let go of this 571 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,680 Jodie Sweetin: idea of who that person was going to be. And 572 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,440 Jodie Sweetin: I realized that through all of the work that I've done, 573 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,880 Jodie Sweetin: I actually really. 574 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,560 Jodie Sweetin: Like who I am now. 575 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,560 Jodie Sweetin: And it's nice to finally get to the part where 576 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,680 Jodie Sweetin: you enjoy that a little bit more. 577 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,280 ETS: When we come back, Jodi shares how she channeled this 578 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:12,000 ETS: exact mentality and her sobriety journey into her next pivot 579 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:29,240 ETS: more Soon. So is it around this time or at 580 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,960 ETS: what point did you become a counselor and you worked 581 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,440 ETS: as a logistics coordinator at a rehab center. 582 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,240 Jodie Sweetin: When my younger daughter was Just after she was born, 583 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,239 Jodie Sweetin: I went back to school and got a certification as 584 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,440 Jodie Sweetin: a drug and alcohol counselor. 585 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,680 Jodie Sweetin: I didn't go back for my master's or anything. 586 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,000 Jodie Sweetin: My husband has his masters as an LCSW, but no, 587 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,000 Jodie Sweetin: I went back and I just wanted to start working 588 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,440 Jodie Sweetin: in treatment. 589 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,760 Jodie Sweetin: I was like, you know what, one, I needed a job. 590 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:59,320 Jodie Sweetin: You know, two kids are expensive and residuals aren't reliable, 591 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,160 Jodie Sweetin: so you know, well it's and I also, again, I 592 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120 Jodie Sweetin: just like being productive and working. I was like, I 593 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,920 Jodie Sweetin: don't care, so I you know, applied for a job 594 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,560 Jodie Sweetin: and started working for like ten bucks an hour as 595 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,120 Jodie Sweetin: a tech in treatment and helping to take in new 596 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,080 Jodie Sweetin: clients and empty trash cans or wash dishes or whatever. 597 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,720 Jodie Sweetin: I was. I was just happy to be there. And 598 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Jodie Sweetin: then I worked in treatment for quite a while, probably 599 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,720 Jodie Sweetin: six or seven years. And it was right before Fuller 600 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320 Jodie Sweetin: House started, actually that I quit working in that industry. 601 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,280 Jodie Sweetin: I mean, I was still working in that business while 602 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,840 Jodie Sweetin: we were going to pitch meetings for Fuller House. You know, 603 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,400 Jodie Sweetin: I'd be like, Okay, I got to leave my meeting 604 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,240 Jodie Sweetin: and go, you know, go meet with John and Candice 605 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,680 Jodie Sweetin: and Andrea and Jeff, you know, over at Netflix or something, 606 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,040 Jodie Sweetin: and then come back and you know, so again that 607 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,880 Jodie Sweetin: straddling of two worlds of sort of like normal day 608 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,200 Jodie Sweetin: to day stuff and then this weird other life. 609 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,840 ETS: Yeah, if we think about your going into into the 610 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,600 ETS: work as a pivot, then you almost pivoted back at 611 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,360 ETS: the same time. Did it feel like you were doing 612 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,720 ETS: mental gym now sticks, No, it. 613 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,920 Jodie Sweetin: Felt like I was really lucky that I had two 614 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,080 Jodie Sweetin: avenues of careers in my life that I would be 615 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,280 Jodie Sweetin: happy pursuing. Either way, I loved working in treatment. I 616 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,280 Jodie Sweetin: loved working with clients. I would have probably gone back 617 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,000 Jodie Sweetin: to school and become some sort of a psychologist or 618 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,280 Jodie Sweetin: so I definitely would have gone that route and then 619 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,440 Jodie Sweetin: taken that and worked in mutual aid programs or whatever. 620 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,640 Jodie Sweetin: That's always something that I'm like, I know, I could 621 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,280 Jodie Sweetin: go back and do that. 622 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,200 Jodie Sweetin: I love it. 623 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,920 Jodie Sweetin: I connect with people, and that working in that industry 624 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,720 Jodie Sweetin: was really fulfilling. But then I also am like, but 625 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,560 Jodie Sweetin: this is you know, being on a set is where 626 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,840 Jodie Sweetin: I feel the most at home, and it's where I've 627 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,160 Jodie Sweetin: spent most of my life, and I, you know, it's 628 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,480 Jodie Sweetin: just sort of this ingrained thing, and I am happiest 629 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,880 Jodie Sweetin: when I'm there. So the fact that I get to 630 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Jodie Sweetin: do it, and I think the fact that you know, 631 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,280 Jodie Sweetin: I've talked about this before in the sort of the 632 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,560 Jodie Sweetin: interim period of first divorce and sober and having kids 633 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,120 Jodie Sweetin: and coming back to fuller house and all that, you know, 634 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:10,960 Jodie Sweetin: I lost a lot of the financial stuff. I lost money, 635 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,320 Jodie Sweetin: all my money on the house, and then I paid 636 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,440 Jodie Sweetin: for rehab, which is not cheap, and then I, you know, 637 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,080 Jodie Sweetin: and then I just blew money like an idiot, and 638 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,680 Jodie Sweetin: then I owed taxes and you know, all this kind 639 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,360 Jodie Sweetin: of stuff, and it was what I did was I 640 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,520 Jodie Sweetin: stripped away kind of all of the stuff and figured 641 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:33,560 Jodie Sweetin: out how to get content finally with me. And so 642 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,840 Jodie Sweetin: then it was like once I did that, and I 643 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,120 Jodie Sweetin: was like, oh, yeah, sure, I'll drive this like free 644 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,920 Jodie Sweetin: twenty year old Toyota that somebody gave me because I 645 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,560 Jodie Sweetin: don't have a car right now, you know whatever, Like 646 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:44,280 Jodie Sweetin: I don't care. 647 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,440 Jodie Sweetin: I was happy. 648 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,680 Jodie Sweetin: And it's almost like once I got happy with just 649 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,880 Jodie Sweetin: really being in my own skin and not feeling like 650 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,840 Jodie Sweetin: I needed to change or be somebody or something else 651 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,480 Jodie Sweetin: or look a different way, it was like it allowed 652 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000 Jodie Sweetin: me to to enjoy this second round of it in 653 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,200 Jodie Sweetin: a much different way, in a way that it's like 654 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,280 Jodie Sweetin: I love it. 655 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,840 Jodie Sweetin: I throw myself into it completely. But if it goes away. 656 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,520 Jodie Sweetin: Tomorrow, like I'll be okay, you know, And I don't 657 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,560 Jodie Sweetin: a lot of people in this business don't have that, 658 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,800 Jodie Sweetin: don't don't have that outlook, definitely, i'd say, not the norm. Yeah, 659 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,920 Jodie Sweetin: and I'm like, again, I love it. It's so much fun. 660 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,600 Jodie Sweetin: But if life takes a difference, if I have to pivot, 661 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,200 Jodie Sweetin: I'm happy doing that too. 662 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,440 ETS: Yeah, well that's so interesting. I was going to ask 663 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,960 ETS: about that about you know, going back into it, Like, 664 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,240 ETS: were you nervous to go back to the thing that 665 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,320 ETS: had been so identity forming and then had then led 666 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,800 ETS: to addiction issues for you? 667 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,000 Jodie Sweetin: No, because you know, for me, the addiction issues and 668 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,800 Jodie Sweetin: my growing up in this business were two completely different things. 669 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,480 Jodie Sweetin: For me, I knew that I would have struggled with 670 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:56,280 Jodie Sweetin: addiction issues because of my biological predetermination to it, regardless 671 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Jodie Sweetin: of if I was on TV or not. And it 672 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,360 Jodie Sweetin: just so happened that I was, so people know that 673 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160 Jodie Sweetin: story and always sort of figure that it's got to 674 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,560 Jodie Sweetin: be part and parcel of that. It made things more complicated, 675 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,160 Jodie Sweetin: but I definitely know that I would have struggled regardless, 676 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,960 Jodie Sweetin: So it wasn't like I felt like coming back would 677 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,600 Jodie Sweetin: jeopardize that in any way. 678 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,080 Jodie Sweetin: It was I was excited because I was like, I. 679 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,480 Jodie Sweetin: Get to come do this thing that I thought I'd 680 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,359 Jodie Sweetin: never get to do again. It was like this that 681 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,640 Jodie Sweetin: grief that I described earlier of losing that family at 682 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,360 Jodie Sweetin: thirteen or fourteen, very suddenly and suddenly my life not 683 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,800 Jodie Sweetin: being what it was all of a sudden. 684 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,320 Jodie Sweetin: I got all of that back. 685 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,040 Jodie Sweetin: I got all of it back, And so what it 686 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,880 Jodie Sweetin: felt like for me was like, oh, that's right, Like 687 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,759 Jodie Sweetin: you can say goodbye to something or to someone, but 688 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,160 Jodie Sweetin: you just don't know how it's what's going to happen 689 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,440 Jodie Sweetin: in the future, you know. So it was really healing 690 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,320 Jodie Sweetin: for me truly because I was like we were on 691 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,560 Jodie Sweetin: the same set, same dressing rooms. I mean, the three 692 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,600 Jodie Sweetin: girls moved up into like John, Bob and Dave's you know, 693 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,680 Jodie Sweetin: nicer rooms, and then the kids were down the hall 694 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:10,200 Jodie Sweetin: where we were. 695 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,240 Jodie Sweetin: But yeah, it was the same dressing rooms. 696 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,520 Jodie Sweetin: Like it's same and they built it when we moved 697 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,319 Jodie Sweetin: into that stage on Warner Brothers twenty some odd years ago, 698 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,279 Jodie Sweetin: So it was really coming home, it really really it 699 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,480 Jodie Sweetin: was you know, the wardrobe room, the smells of the 700 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,760 Jodie Sweetin: stage all like, and I was like, this is exactly 701 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,279 Jodie Sweetin: where everything was when I left it twenty years ago. 702 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,719 Jodie Sweetin: And to get to do it with people that I 703 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:40,080 Jodie Sweetin: love so so much, like we had so much fun together, 704 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,640 Jodie Sweetin: Like what a gift. And I'm so grateful for it 705 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,320 Jodie Sweetin: because it was a very healing journey of like, oh, yeah, 706 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,000 Jodie Sweetin: maybe you don't always know, you know, remember you like 707 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,720 Jodie Sweetin: you don't you don't always know what's going to happen. 708 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,400 Jodie Sweetin: Things can come back around. 709 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,480 ETS: Did you have a conversation with your onset family, like 710 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,359 ETS: your co stars, I mean, they must have known would 711 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,719 ETS: have been happening in the interm years. I imagine you 712 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,279 ETS: guys kept up to some degree that people knew what 713 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:04,799 ETS: was going on. 714 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,880 Jodie Sweetin: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean Candice was my 715 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,120 Jodie Sweetin: matron of honor and my first wedding. Her daughter was 716 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,560 Jodie Sweetin: one of my flower girls. I mean, you know, every 717 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,360 Jodie Sweetin: new person I would date that that was the second 718 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,399 Jodie Sweetin: family that they had to meet. You know, it was like, okay, 719 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,919 Jodie Sweetin: well you've got to meet, like you met my parents, 720 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,600 Jodie Sweetin: but now here's the full house family. 721 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,120 Jodie Sweetin: And sometimes they were more intimidating. You know. Bob would 722 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,560 Jodie Sweetin: be like, what are your intentions? And I was like, 723 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,040 Jodie Sweetin: can you not? 724 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,440 Jodie Sweetin: But you know, yeah, they knew. And they were also 725 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,719 Jodie Sweetin: like really supportive. I mean, we've all we are very 726 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:39,920 Jodie Sweetin: much a family and have supported each other through birth, death, divorce, loss, lawsuits, everything, 727 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,560 Jodie Sweetin: and we still love each other. Might not always agree, 728 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,600 Jodie Sweetin: but we're very much like a family. And it's like 729 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,600 Jodie Sweetin: I'm going to not love you and I'll set a 730 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,239 Jodie Sweetin: couple of seats down. I don't know, you know, but 731 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,640 Jodie Sweetin: like that's just but that's what family is. And I'm 732 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,799 Jodie Sweetin: just so grateful that I got to have that experience 733 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,200 Jodie Sweetin: again with a different perspective of it. 734 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,480 ETS: Just to skip, I'm a little bit here. During the pandemic, 735 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,360 ETS: you were sober. 736 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,239 Jodie Sweetin: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I use cannabis products for anxiety. 737 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,680 Jodie Sweetin: So during the pandemic, I figured out that I had 738 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,360 Jodie Sweetin: this really strange suddenly became really food averse, and it 739 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,879 Jodie Sweetin: was a way that my body deals with stress. Since 740 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,600 Jodie Sweetin: I'm not a stress eater, I'm a stress starver. And 741 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,560 Jodie Sweetin: so it's happened before during divorces and things. I will 742 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,840 Jodie Sweetin: just drop thirty pounds and I dropped a lot of weight. 743 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,360 Jodie Sweetin: I couldn't eat, I couldn't keep it anything down. The 744 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,920 Jodie Sweetin: smell of food, pictures of food were discussing, and so 745 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,560 Jodie Sweetin: I had to figure out how to have an appetite 746 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,160 Jodie Sweetin: and how to quell nauge it and so you know, 747 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,839 Jodie Sweetin: but I yeah, I don't drink, I don't use you know, 748 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,480 Jodie Sweetin: I don't use hard drugs. I like the journey of 749 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,279 Jodie Sweetin: going through the pandemic and being like, Okay, we're just 750 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,680 Jodie Sweetin: going to feel this, like this is just going to 751 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,920 Jodie Sweetin: be scary, you know it. 752 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,879 Jodie Sweetin: And it was and it was scary in so many ways. Yeah, 753 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,560 Jodie Sweetin: it was a lot to handle. It's a lot to handle. 754 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,279 Jodie Sweetin: Yeah, And I was also entering like the the beginnings 755 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,880 Jodie Sweetin: of perimenopause, which I didn't really know at the time. 756 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,719 Jodie Sweetin: So I was also just a psycho. Like I was 757 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,440 Jodie Sweetin: like crying and angry and I mean, which was kind 758 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,600 Jodie Sweetin: of everyone during the pandemic. But it really didn't help. 759 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,600 Jodie Sweetin: And so now I'm like, oh, yeah, that now I 760 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,640 Jodie Sweetin: get Okay, that's yeah, that's why I went for that 761 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:25,920 Jodie Sweetin: three and a half hour walk that day. 762 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,359 Jodie Sweetin: Okay. You know, you just lose it. 763 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,600 ETS: So we haven't had the opportunity to interview someone who's 764 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,440 ETS: really gone through substance abuse and recovery on this show yet, 765 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,200 ETS: so I'm really interested to at, you know, to kind 766 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,080 ETS: of like get specific about like what tools did you 767 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,319 ETS: did it feel different for you, Like what tools were 768 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,520 ETS: you able to utilize to get it through that time? 769 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,399 Jodie Sweetin: You know, I'll be very honest, I did not get 770 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,920 Jodie Sweetin: through that time very well at all. I did not. 771 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,560 Jodie Sweetin: I looking back on it now, I think I I 772 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,400 Jodie Sweetin: will admit I think I had some sort of breakdown. 773 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,360 Jodie Sweetin: I just wasn't okay. 774 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,200 Jodie Sweetin: So I'd love to say that like, oh, well I 775 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,560 Jodie Sweetin: meditated my way through it. 776 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,719 Jodie Sweetin: Now I clawed my way through it. I yelled my 777 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,359 Jodie Sweetin: way through it. 778 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,960 Jodie Sweetin: And I also tried to throw myself into like service 779 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,960 Jodie Sweetin: work and protests and mutual aid and doing stuff for 780 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,680 Jodie Sweetin: other people because I was I just felt like I 781 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,160 Jodie Sweetin: was crawling out of my skin. And it wasn't It 782 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,000 Jodie Sweetin: was not easy. And you know, but the thing that 783 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,359 Jodie Sweetin: I've learned in sobriety is if I'm feeling awful, let 784 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,000 Jodie Sweetin: me go find something to do for someone else. 785 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,040 Jodie Sweetin: Let me go be of use or of service. 786 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,480 Jodie Sweetin: And there were so many places and ways to do 787 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,840 Jodie Sweetin: that at that time that that was kind of what 788 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,040 Jodie Sweetin: I threw myself into. And was it a distraction from 789 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,080 Jodie Sweetin: some things, sure, probably, but it was also like getting 790 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,560 Jodie Sweetin: back to who I really am and what I really love, 791 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,560 Jodie Sweetin: which is connecting with and helping people. 792 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,640 ETS: Right, And you didn't you didn't go back to drug use. 793 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,600 Jodie Sweetin: No, No, it's. 794 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,440 ETS: So interesting you talk about this. My sort of over 795 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,920 ETS: arching theme going into the show right now is plot twists, 796 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,839 ETS: Like your life happens in plot twists that you think 797 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,680 ETS: you've made a change, and then all of a sudden 798 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,640 ETS: you might actually go back to the other thing a 799 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,640 ETS: little bit and then come out of it again. And 800 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,120 ETS: but you do it with a different perspective. Where do 801 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,359 ETS: you think you are pivoting to now? 802 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:17,560 Jodie Sweetin: Now? 803 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,480 Jodie Sweetin: My goal is to pivot a little more into behind 804 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,240 Jodie Sweetin: the scenes stuff. 805 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,560 Jodie Sweetin: I want to direct and produce. 806 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,480 Jodie Sweetin: I've been, you know, producing on a bunch of my 807 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,920 Jodie Sweetin: homework and Lifetime movies and all the TV show that 808 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,840 Jodie Sweetin: I did Hallywo Darling's exec produced that, And you know, 809 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,680 Jodie Sweetin: that's kind of where I want to move into because 810 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,840 Jodie Sweetin: I constantly feel like I hear stories or I you know, 811 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,000 Jodie Sweetin: run into just incredible scripts that people who are not 812 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,279 Jodie Sweetin: known you know, are friends of mine or whatever, like hey, 813 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,719 Jodie Sweetin: would you read this? And I'm like this is incredible, 814 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,840 Jodie Sweetin: and I want to be able to bring those stories 815 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,239 Jodie Sweetin: to life. So, you know, producing directing, that's kind of 816 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,839 Jodie Sweetin: where I'm pivoting now. Is like, Okay, I don't want 817 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,080 Jodie Sweetin: to be in front of the camera forever again. Like 818 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,800 Jodie Sweetin: one of those things that you know, rarely do you 819 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,520 Jodie Sweetin: hear an actress say, is like, I don't I'm cool 820 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,520 Jodie Sweetin: not being in front of the camera. Yeah, but I 821 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,600 Jodie Sweetin: really that's not where I see myself long term. I 822 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,560 Jodie Sweetin: see myself continuing to do it for really great projects. 823 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,800 Jodie Sweetin: But I would I would really love to direct and 824 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,960 Jodie Sweetin: produce and watch other people sort of bring some things 825 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,240 Jodie Sweetin: to life to We haven't talked. 826 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,239 ETS: As much about your daughters and being a mom. Yeah, 827 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,360 ETS: one of the things I'm really interested in is that 828 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:34,440 ETS: your daughters are now the age that you began to 829 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,040 ETS: have real difficulty. How do you talk with them about that? 830 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,120 ETS: How do you like safeguard against them following them the 831 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,600 ETS: same path. 832 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,560 Jodie Sweetin: You can only safeguard as much as you can, right, 833 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,480 Jodie Sweetin: I mean, I have sixteen and fourteen year old daughters 834 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,160 Jodie Sweetin: and I love them, and sometimes they make really great, 835 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,439 Jodie Sweetin: responsible choices, and sometimes they really really don't. And it's 836 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,400 Jodie Sweetin: terrifying because I also know that no matter what my 837 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,879 Jodie Sweetin: expece sperience was or what I tell them I went through, 838 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,440 Jodie Sweetin: they're going to be like, yeah, okay and do whatever 839 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,400 Jodie Sweetin: they want. So what I've realized is is, you know, 840 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,920 Jodie Sweetin: as kids hit the age where it's you know, the 841 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,080 Jodie Sweetin: parental influence wanes and it's really now about peer group influence. 842 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,520 Jodie Sweetin: It's just really like, look, just be honest with me, 843 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,480 Jodie Sweetin: like there's nothing And for the most part they are. 844 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,120 Jodie Sweetin: We you know, We've had some hiccups along the. 845 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,360 Jodie Sweetin: Way past year, but you know, I think overall and 846 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,120 Jodie Sweetin: I will say, my kids come to me about all 847 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,719 Jodie Sweetin: sorts of things, whether it's them or their friends or 848 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,200 Jodie Sweetin: you know. And my kids also know that, you know, 849 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,319 Jodie Sweetin: they have some of my best girlfriends who are been 850 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,080 Jodie Sweetin: in their lives their entire lives, who are anties who 851 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:46,640 Jodie Sweetin: they can call. 852 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,360 Jodie Sweetin: And I know I'm not alone in this. It feels 853 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,000 Jodie Sweetin: that way a lot of the time as a parent. 854 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,880 Jodie Sweetin: But I just try and have honest conversations with them, 855 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,799 Jodie Sweetin: and I'm like, look, you're going to do some dumb shit. 856 00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,920 Jodie Sweetin: It's just what you're going to do. 857 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,680 Jodie Sweetin: You never think that there's anything that you're going to 858 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,600 Jodie Sweetin: do that I'm going to like disown you for. We 859 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,759 Jodie Sweetin: might have some things to deal with, but I nothing 860 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,920 Jodie Sweetin: is going to shock me, you. 861 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,239 Jodie Sweetin: Know what I mean. 862 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,839 Jodie Sweetin: I'm not gonna be like I can't believe you. I'll 863 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,880 Jodie Sweetin: be like, oh, oh, I totally believe you did that. Now, 864 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:15,680 Jodie Sweetin: how do we fix this? 865 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:16,920 ETS: You know? 866 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,480 Jodie Sweetin: And And it's scary because you know, we live in 867 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,719 Jodie Sweetin: a big city, and we live in an age of 868 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:28,040 Jodie Sweetin: social media and fentanel and all sorts of scary things 869 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,360 Jodie Sweetin: that are so easily accessible. And I think that's, you know, 870 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:34,960 Jodie Sweetin: the thing that I just try and tell my kids 871 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,000 Jodie Sweetin: all the time, is like, it's a different landscape of 872 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,600 Jodie Sweetin: being stupid as a young person than it was twenty 873 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:48,400 Jodie Sweetin: years ago. The margin of error is huge, and it 874 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,200 Jodie Sweetin: was always there when we were young, but not like this, 875 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,359 Jodie Sweetin: not like this, And you know, the margin of error 876 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,799 Jodie Sweetin: as far as what you do and how that gets 877 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,440 Jodie Sweetin: blasted online and you know all of these things, like 878 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,360 Jodie Sweetin: suddenly the stupidity of your youth really can have a 879 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,520 Jodie Sweetin: huge impact in ways that you don't foresee. And so 880 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,799 Jodie Sweetin: you know, trying to constantly guide them through this experience 881 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,880 Jodie Sweetin: of living in the age of immediate gratification and like, 882 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,920 Jodie Sweetin: how do we slow down a little bit? And if 883 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,520 Jodie Sweetin: you don't and you make a dumb choice or your 884 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,360 Jodie Sweetin: friend does, and like, okay, then come to me and 885 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,680 Jodie Sweetin: we'll we'll figure this out one way or another. 886 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,840 ETS: Yeah, So, turning it back to you, what is something 887 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,560 ETS: that something that in your past that at the time 888 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,800 ETS: you saw it's a real low point or a negative 889 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,680 ETS: and now in retrospect you see it as having really 890 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,200 ETS: put you on the path you are now. Oh okay, 891 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:43,560 ETS: I know. 892 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:43,879 ETS: One. 893 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,000 Jodie Sweetin: So when I we were in the shooting the third 894 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,000 Jodie Sweetin: season of Fuller House and I not long before we 895 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,279 Jodie Sweetin: started that season, decided to try and rescue a one 896 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,000 Jodie Sweetin: dollar toy for my younger daughter over a small fence, 897 00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,360 Jodie Sweetin: and I fell and snapped my tibia, my favorit, my 898 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,320 Jodie Sweetin: ankle dislocated. It just basically snapped my foot off sideways. 899 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,040 Jodie Sweetin: Supposed to leave for a movie the next day, that 900 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,040 Jodie Sweetin: didn't happen to surgeries pushed back fuller house anyway, I 901 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,359 Jodie Sweetin: was forced to I had to sit still, I had 902 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,600 Jodie Sweetin: to just be at home, and it forced me to 903 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,000 Jodie Sweetin: look at an incredibly unhealthy, abusive relationship that I was 904 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:27,160 Jodie Sweetin: in that I could no longer stay busy enough to 905 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:28,240 Jodie Sweetin: just ignore. 906 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,879 Jodie Sweetin: And some really scary, awful stuff happened during that time. 907 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,799 Jodie Sweetin: But I like that felt like when I really went, oh, 908 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,400 Jodie Sweetin: oh wait, I don't have to do this. Is I 909 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,640 Jodie Sweetin: deserve better than this? 910 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,080 Jodie Sweetin: And that was a huge turning point for me. Every 911 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,320 Jodie Sweetin: you know, things really really shifted in my life. And 912 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:54,080 Jodie Sweetin: from that point forward, I had the freedom to go 913 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,880 Jodie Sweetin: after the things that I wanted without the fear of 914 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,319 Jodie Sweetin: someone telling me I could or shouldn't or it wasn't 915 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,080 Jodie Sweetin: fair or all of those things that narcissists love to 916 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,000 Jodie Sweetin: throw on you. And so, you know, that was a 917 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,279 Jodie Sweetin: huge turning point for me because it was like, all 918 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,040 Jodie Sweetin: of a sudden, I was like, oh, I'm not I'm 919 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,360 Jodie Sweetin: not ever ever doing that bullshit again. Like and it was, 920 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,799 Jodie Sweetin: you know, breaking down some patterns that I repeated over 921 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,640 Jodie Sweetin: and over again in relationships and looked at and I 922 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,359 Jodie Sweetin: did a lot. I went back to therapy, and then 923 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,920 Jodie Sweetin: I was in therapy all through the pandemic. Like the 924 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,960 Jodie Sweetin: past probably six years of my life, I've done a 925 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,200 Jodie Sweetin: lot of work and therapy and continued work on self 926 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,759 Jodie Sweetin: and finding that grounded place and looking at things and 927 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,200 Jodie Sweetin: forgiving things from my past and also looking at things 928 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,360 Jodie Sweetin: that I don't want to repeat or that you know, 929 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,200 Jodie Sweetin: how do I make different choices? 930 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:51,680 Jodie Sweetin: Things like that? 931 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,600 ETS: So what are you working by now? 932 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,760 Jodie Sweetin: So now I am working on. I have my podcast 933 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,640 Jodie Sweetin: how Rude Tanner Rito's, which is really fun. As I 934 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,640 Jodie Sweetin: mentioned earlier, I never watched the show growing up, and 935 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,839 Jodie Sweetin: neither did Andrea Barber. Like I have not seen most 936 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,800 Jodie Sweetin: of the episodes of Full House, maybe like the pilot 937 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,839 Jodie Sweetin: and a couple ones. So we decided that we were 938 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,439 Jodie Sweetin: gonna go back and start watching the original series from 939 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,600 Jodie Sweetin: the beginning all the way forward. And we're now we're 940 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,760 Jodie Sweetin: going into season four of Full House, but like season 941 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,080 Jodie Sweetin: two or three of our podcast, and it is so 942 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,680 Jodie Sweetin: much fun. We've had incredible guests on and Andrey and 943 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,120 Jodie Sweetin: I have so much fun both celebrating and making fun 944 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,080 Jodie Sweetin: of what were sitcoms in the late eighties early nineties. 945 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,360 Jodie Sweetin: The hair alone is magnificent, but I've been working on that. 946 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,000 Jodie Sweetin: I've been doing some live shows here in La Family Dinner, 947 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,160 Jodie Sweetin: which is a fun live panel comedy show that I've 948 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:46,520 Jodie Sweetin: been doing. 949 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,480 Jodie Sweetin: I just got back from working in. 950 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,719 Jodie Sweetin: Canada on a project which I can't say yet, but 951 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,719 Jodie Sweetin: it was really fun and something very different. I've been 952 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,520 Jodie Sweetin: doing my Hallmark Mystery series, which is on Hallmark plus 953 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,680 Jodie Sweetin: the Jane Mysteries, which is really fun. Or I get 954 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,320 Jodie Sweetin: to also sing, which is something I don't get to 955 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,360 Jodie Sweetin: do all the time. So yeah, I stay super busy 956 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,320 Jodie Sweetin: and I and in between all of that is momming 957 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,239 Jodie Sweetin: and traveling and trying to find a moment here and 958 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,320 Jodie Sweetin: there to you know, read books. 959 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,360 ETS: So thank you so much, Jody, thanks for joining us. 960 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,400 ETS: It's just such such a good conversation. 961 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,720 Jodie Sweetin: Thank you absolutely my pleasure. 962 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,360 ETS: Jody still lives in California with her two beautiful daughters 963 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,920 ETS: and husband She also has a podcast, a true delight 964 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,759 ETS: called how Rude Tannerito's. Give it a listen and be 965 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,320 ETS: sure to follow her on Instagram at Jody Sweeten. 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