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Speaker 1: Listen. I don't know, I look. It was a good

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Speaker 1: thing you were in the NBA for such a long time.

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Speaker 1: Mo May walks in at a seven foot zero measuring,

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Speaker 1: we'll see a bunch of seven footers today. As a

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Speaker 1: Cavaliers Jared Allen a game time decision for tonight's game

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Speaker 1: with the Celtics and the Cavaliers series TID one apiece.

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Speaker 1: You know, Joe Miszula's home record in the playoffs eight

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Speaker 1: and eight as a member of the head coach of

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Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics, and they've had the top seed the

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Speaker 1: entire time, are one of the top seats. What are

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Speaker 1: you expecting, Olden, and to see tonight in this Game

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Speaker 1: three matchup between the Cavaliers and the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: The thing about the Celtics is they're jack and hide.

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Speaker 2: And I've been saying this for so long. I can't

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Speaker 2: really be dependent on them. They had a great regular

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Speaker 2: built yeah, built for the regular season, but when the

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Speaker 2: playoffs come and everybody tightens up, you know, you see

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Speaker 2: a different team, and it's almost similar with the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: It's like the first game you're thinking, okay, here it

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Speaker 2: is in the next game they were disinterested in playing basketball.

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Speaker 2: And to me, you know, we've always said this man

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Speaker 2: teams take on a coach's personalities and sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 2: Jason Tatum, Jael and Brown, yeah they're good for about

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Speaker 2: forty five fifty points. But some of these other guys,

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Speaker 2: but I do I gotta give them, you know, a

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Speaker 2: little slack because Pazinga's being out really hurts them, it

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Speaker 2: really does. You know, that's a shop rim protect the

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Speaker 2: So a little, you know, a little slack, but not

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Speaker 1: So I thought, what was concerned You talked about the

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Speaker 1: head The team takes the personality of the head coach. Well,

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Speaker 1: Jason Tatum after Game two, his comments saying, as much

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Speaker 1: as you know, you say, we're a super team, but

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Speaker 1: we didn't get rewarded like we were. We didn't have MVPs,

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Speaker 1: we only had two All Stars. I'm paraphrasing, but that

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Speaker 1: just you know, he goes on to say, the world

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Speaker 1: thinks we're never supposed to lose. We're supposed to win

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Speaker 1: every game. By twenty five, it's not going to be

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Speaker 1: like that a lot of the time. And I kind

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Speaker 1: of feel them a little bit because, I mean, he's right.

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Speaker 1: Like when they lost to Miami, like, there they go again.

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Speaker 1: When they lost the Cleveland I said, there they go again, right,

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Speaker 1: And if they lose again today, I'll be like, Yep,

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Speaker 1: there they go one more time, losing games that they're

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Speaker 1: supposed to win. Right, But when you're only scoring twenty

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Speaker 1: one points a game and shooting twenty seven percent from three,

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Speaker 1: is that the right time to have that message if

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Speaker 1: you're Jason Tatum, Like, how would you say if that

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Jason Tatum needs to stop listening

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Speaker 2: to the verbage. Okay. It's like saying, oh, such and

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Speaker 2: such is the greatest play ever. There's no such thing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we're in a generation of right here, right now, and

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Speaker 2: greatest because you're seeing him. For one, you have a

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Speaker 2: good game. I'm sorry, I don't want to hear all that,

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Speaker 2: because you know, you have to look at it for

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Speaker 2: It just means that that's the term that they want

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Speaker 2: you know, in that second game, because they just look

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Speaker 2: that I have with the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how much of that do you do you chalk

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Speaker 1: up to their style of play? Because to me, when

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Speaker 1: in two point attempts, it just shows me. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like y'all are not y'all are afraid almost to put

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Speaker 1: And sometimes you gotta put emphasis to the officials to

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Speaker 1: throw line, especially when you're a really good free throw

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Speaker 1: shooting team like the Celtics are. But to the point

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Speaker 1: of it, to me, it feels like man I'd rather

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Speaker 1: not be here when you're just jacking up threes, jacking

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Speaker 1: up three, jacking up threes. And we've seen jump shooting

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Speaker 1: teams win a title. But here's the thing. Nobody on

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Speaker 1: the Celtics is Stephen Curry. Nobody on the Celtics is

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Speaker 1: even Klay Thompson, thank you, Right. So it's like when

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Speaker 1: an outlier. It would be like saying, well, Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: the sixth round, we should take a quarterback, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't exactly work that way because Tom Brady is

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Speaker 2: Outliers and we got to get him at number one

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Speaker 2: ninety nine exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: So like when you see a team like Jason Tatum

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Speaker 1: end up losing this game. Like, if I'm zero for

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I'll probably put the ball on the rack.

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Speaker 1: I put the ball in the court rather and go

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Speaker 2: And that's where the mental midget aspect comes into play

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Speaker 2: I don't want to knock this generation of players. I

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Speaker 2: enjoy watching these guys play, but I don't think everybody

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Speaker 2: plays with the level of smarts. You know that they

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Speaker 2: should all the time because perfect example, the other night,

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Speaker 2: I'm watching the game. You know, team is up twenty

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Speaker 2: five points and they jacking up threes. You don't need

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Speaker 2: threes anymore, right, And so to me, it's always been

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Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty proposition shooting threes. The Celtics are

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Speaker 2: not a great shooting team. Yes, they made difference between

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Speaker 2: a lot of these guys get really messed up in

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Speaker 2: Klay Thompson, and you're not you can make a three.

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Speaker 2: I can make a damn three. Sheesh. But I'm not

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Speaker 2: so to me, that's the problem. It's knowing game management.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think and that goes back to Missoula.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's really good at that. I don't

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Speaker 1: I think part of that as well is, they say, professionally,

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Speaker 1: Joe Mizzoula was on the back bench as the head

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Speaker 1: They need to have a good showing in this series,

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Speaker 1: two Shie right, they could have been playing, they could

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Speaker 1: have been playing against the Pacers right now, but they

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Speaker 1: didn't want to see Joel embiid them in round one.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to make sure they got out of round one,

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Speaker 1: so they did that, all right, box check took seven

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Speaker 1: offensive basketball back. That was like watching some high school

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Speaker 1: offenses like, man, I see you open, buddy, but now

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Speaker 1: I'm on pal, can you make a shot? But we

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Speaker 1: see that, we see Evan Mobley coming into his own

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Speaker 1: in Game two, you already outline the missing of christ

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Speaker 1: As porzingis. What are you expecting to see out of

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Speaker 1: the Cavaliers in their first home game in this series?

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Speaker 2: the first two minutes. It's gonna tell a lot about

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Speaker 2: you know this series. You know which team is gonna

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Speaker 2: come up and play with the tenacity that they need.

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Speaker 2: You know, Boston's on the road and so you've lost

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Speaker 2: home court advantage. Basically, are you gonna get it back

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Speaker 2: But also, now you flip it around Cleveland, Hey, we

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Speaker 1: Just remember America, Tristan Thompson is out here logging important

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Speaker 1: to this The New York Knicks. Man. I tell you what,

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Speaker 1: watching these Knick games, especially the ones that have been

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Speaker 1: You see, it's almost like a a high school reunion

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Speaker 1: became in that with at Game three, when Brunton went

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Speaker 1: down those Game two when Brunston got hurt. Initially, oh,

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Speaker 1: Jannobi had took twenty eight points in the first half. No,

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Speaker 1: it's nobody else on the Knicks that can do that.

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Speaker 2: And you know what was funny about that twenty eight

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Speaker 2: was that nothing was forced. Yep, not one single shot

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Speaker 2: was forced. He takes what the defense gives him. He

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Speaker 2: works hard. I mean, that's pretty much the whole team.

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Speaker 2: But I love that whole Villanova trifecta thing. My goodness.

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Speaker 2: All they need now is what Michel Bridges.

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Speaker 1: If thanks are somehow able to get Michel Bridges right now,

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Speaker 1: I would love their chances to get to the East

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Speaker 1: the Conference semi find mean Eastern Conference Finals as they

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Speaker 1: try to progress against the Pacers. Let's now progress over

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Speaker 1: to Kevin Wire. We'll have Mark Medina coming up right

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Speaker 1: after this update. But Kevin, right now, what's trending in

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Speaker 1: the world of sports, my guy?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, NBA playoffs, they say they're about eleven minutes or

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Speaker 7: so from tip off between the Cleveland Cavaliers and Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 7: Over in the Cleveland No, christophs porzingis for the Celtics,

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Speaker 7: Jared Allen, Craig, Porter, Ti Jerome all out for Cleveland,

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Speaker 7: as this series tied at one game apiece. In the

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Speaker 7: earlier game the Dallas Mavericks Oklahoma City Thunder, Game three

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Speaker 7: of that series, it's the Dallas Mavericks taking the lead, and.

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Speaker 1: The pocket passes stolen by Joel and then his best

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Speaker 1: stolen by Luca.

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Speaker 4: There comes Dodgets three or two to the ram take along.

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Speaker 1: He's starting, he Chopick and.

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Speaker 7: He finished up Mavericks Radio Network with the call the

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Speaker 7: Big Three, PJ. Washington, Kyrie Irving, Luka Dattch combining for

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Speaker 7: seventy one points as the Mavericks take a two to

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Speaker 7: one series lead. Not to be outdone, though, Shake Gilgels

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Speaker 7: Alexander did have himself an outstanding performance in the loss.

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Speaker 7: He had thirty one points. He also had himself five blocks,

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Speaker 7: and I had to look that up because five blocks

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Speaker 7: by a point guard is a lot, and it's actually

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Speaker 7: the second most in a game in NBA history. Vet

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Speaker 7: fred Van Fleet got six on January twenty fourth of

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Speaker 7: this year against the Charlotte Hornets, so that's the all

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Speaker 7: time record in a game for a point guard. Shake

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Speaker 7: Gale Just Alexander's tig with several others for second most

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Speaker 7: all time with five, also had himself six assists ten rebounds,

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Speaker 7: But camming up just short is Shake Guil Just Alexander

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Speaker 7: and the Thunder as Dallas takes that series lead. In

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Speaker 7: the NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs, it's the Hurricanes and Rangers.

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Speaker 7: They're nearing the second intermission, Carolina on top three to

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Speaker 7: two as they're trying to come back from a three

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Speaker 7: to nothing series deficit, and at ten o'clock the Stars

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Speaker 7: an Avalanche set to get going. Over in Denver, Major

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Speaker 7: League Baseball Action, Pirates and Cubs. They're in the sixth

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Speaker 7: inning with Pittsburgh in front nine to eight, Tigers on

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Speaker 7: top of the Astros eight to two. They're in the

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Speaker 7: eighth inning, the White Sox leading the Guardians two to one.

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Speaker 7: They're in the fifth, Giants leading the Reds four to one.

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Speaker 7: They're in the fifth inning over in San Francisco, clinging

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Speaker 7: to a one nothing lead against the Cardinals. In the

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Speaker 7: fifth inning at Rangers Rockies. That game is still in

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Speaker 7: the second early inning. Early they are scoreless. About to

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Speaker 7: get going in the next ten minutes. Dodgers and Padres

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Speaker 7: down in San Diego. A couple other games Royals and

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Speaker 7: Angels will get going at nine thirty Eastern time, and

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Speaker 7: at nine forty Athletics and Mariners in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, thanks Kevin. Uh, I guess we

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Speaker 1: do not have Medina? Patrick? Or we got Mendina coming

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Speaker 1: up now? Or okay, well can we get Medina? You

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Speaker 1: want to give him a call? Huh? What do you

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Speaker 1: say about that? All right, let's see if we can

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Speaker 1: get Mark Medina in just a little bit here as

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Speaker 1: as we progress through the NBA. You know what, dudes,

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Speaker 1: real quick, I got time for this as Patrick dollas Medina.

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Speaker 1: This is my this is my next biggest beef with

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Speaker 1: watching these games. Besides the playoffs. You tell me if

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Speaker 1: I'm onto something, besides the commercials, I should say, because

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Speaker 1: the commercials is the worst. When I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I felt we had a

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Speaker 1: million different commercials to watch, all the different like you'd

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Speaker 1: be the same companies advertised, but you'd be more just

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Speaker 1: commercial diversity. Like now, we see the same commercials every break.

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Speaker 1: But the thing that drives me insane, it drives me nuts.

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Speaker 1: I've been on the radio all damn day saying this

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Speaker 1: game was gonna start an eight thirty eastern. Now it

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Speaker 1: is eight thirty three Eastern and not a game is

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Speaker 1: being played. I'm looking at sideline reporters. I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: guys with their warm up still on. Why can't we

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Speaker 1: say the game is gonna start at the time that

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Speaker 1: the dog on Internet says the game is gonna start.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it. Maybe Mark Medena can help me

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Speaker 1: answer the question, Mark, how are you doing, my friend?

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Speaker 3: I am doing well. Get to talk some hoops. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: I have a very simple answer to that question.

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Speaker 1: It's easy.

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Speaker 3: It's TV commercials. They want to make the money.

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Speaker 1: It just drives me nuts. They say the game start

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Speaker 1: today thirty. We're not gonna see this game start to

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Speaker 1: eight forty five. What if I got something to do? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's not neither here nor there. Let's talk about the

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Speaker 1: game that may eventually start at some point in the

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Speaker 1: next thirty min minutes or so. The Cavaliers and the Celtics. Mark,

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Speaker 1: I told you will before the playoffs started. I said,

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Speaker 1: if the Celtics lose like four or five games throughout

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Speaker 1: the entire side of the Eastern Conference, I'm not taking

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Speaker 1: them seriously. They've already lost two or now. If they

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Speaker 1: go down two to one, it will be apocalyptic in

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Speaker 1: terms of the commentary that we see Monday on TV

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Speaker 1: leading up to the next game four. Where are you

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Speaker 1: at with this series is the Celtics and the Cavaliers.

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Speaker 3: Well, where I'm at with the series. I think that

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Speaker 3: the Celtics will still win. I actually think that they're

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Speaker 3: going to win Game three because ironically they're a better

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Speaker 3: road team than a home team in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 3: they seem to play better when they feel challenged. But

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Speaker 3: I think big picture, even though I think that they'll

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Speaker 3: still get to the NBA Finals, I have concerns about

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Speaker 3: their ability to win a championship. First of all, when

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Speaker 3: or if well Chursouf Forzingis ever play again. Secondly, the

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Speaker 3: Celtics I don't think can get away with having this

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Speaker 3: kind of attitude and level of inconsistency versus any Western

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Speaker 3: Conference contender, and I think four teams in the West

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Speaker 3: High have a viable chance. The Denver Nuggets, the Minnesota Temberwolves,

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma City Thunder, the Dallas Mavericks. I think all four

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Speaker 3: of those teams right now, assuming no major injuries on

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Speaker 3: either of those teams, would beat the Celtics in the

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Speaker 3: NBA Finals series.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I kind of agree with you there, But

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Speaker 1: what about Donovan Mitchell and him individually in terms of

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Speaker 1: the things that he's got going on? As Mark, I'm

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Speaker 1: joined here also with Olden Polonies, but Donovan Mitchell to me,

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Speaker 1: has been one of the more impressive scores in this postseason.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is what makes them such a

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Speaker 3: special player. And I think that he really has a

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Speaker 3: perfect combination of knowing when to try to be the

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Speaker 3: guy and carry the team on his own and then

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Speaker 3: also rely on some of his teammates. But recently it's

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Speaker 3: been about, hey, he's got to carry the team. And

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Speaker 3: the Cleveland Cavaliers they've had some dueling identities because when

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Speaker 3: he was out, they were able to rely on some

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Speaker 3: of their depth, whether it was you know, Daris Carlin,

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Speaker 3: Nevin Boboy, Jared Allen. Sometimes when he's been playing he

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Speaker 3: hasn't had to carry, but lately it's been about Donovan Mitchell.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, in the playoffs, this is what's

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Speaker 3: about that your best player, for whatever reason, has to

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Speaker 3: be the guy that's willing and able to carry the

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Speaker 3: team if necessary. But I will say that if his

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Speaker 3: other teammates elevate their play, he won't hesitate down in it.

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Speaker 3: Back so speak just to make sure that he has

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Speaker 3: more threats around him.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Mark Olden, here, let's stay with Cleveland for a

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Speaker 2: little bit. What are you hearing regards to Jared Allen?

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Speaker 2: Because I know that's a big injury, you know, for

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Speaker 2: the Cavaliers not having this guy. So are you hearing

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Speaker 2: anything about a timeline and when he can be back

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Speaker 2: or if any.

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Speaker 3: It's a very good question. Old And then there hasn't

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Speaker 3: been clarity on timeline. It's really just stay to day.

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Speaker 3: I think that there would be a pathway for him

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Speaker 3: to return because you know, more than anyone else, especially

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, there's a difference between being injured and

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Speaker 3: being hurt and knowing how Jared Allen is. You know. Ever,

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Speaker 3: besides his initial injury at the beginning of the season,

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Speaker 3: he really took a source of pride with trying to

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Speaker 3: improve his durability with the way he trains, and so

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Speaker 3: knowing how he is and talking of this season, I

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Speaker 3: would see him being able to return. But this is

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Speaker 3: a pretty serious injury. So if he is now because

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Speaker 3: of because of what's going on, this is a sign

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Speaker 3: that it's serious. Because Sharon Allen went just for anything,

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Speaker 3: especially concerning it's the playoffs, speaking of.

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Speaker 1: A guy wouldn't just sit for anything. We got ogn

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Speaker 1: Andobi right now out for Game four tomorrow over the

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Speaker 1: Knicks Pacer series. This is one of those stats you

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Speaker 1: got a triple check. But the Knicks twenty and three

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Speaker 1: with ojji Enanoby in the starting lineup in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: what do you think missing him? What impact that will

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Speaker 1: have on New York is they try to advance against

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Speaker 1: or try to you know, win another game, I should

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Speaker 1: say in the Pacer series.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a huge impact because he's a two way player.

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Speaker 3: The reason this is one of the reasons why they

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Speaker 3: got him before the trade that line. I think it's

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Speaker 3: just very fitting that even when the Knicks had so

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Speaker 3: many different injuries with og Andbi Julius Randall, he's an

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Speaker 3: out for the playoffs. Mitchel Robinson, Bogan Bogdanovitch that they

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Speaker 3: bill only lost the Pacers by single digits, and so

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Speaker 3: I think that the Knicks, they've been used to having

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Speaker 3: to be resilient. And while it isn't comforting that there

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Speaker 3: are injuries, we've seen that Jalen Brunson can take his

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Speaker 3: game to another level. I suspect that he will have

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Speaker 3: a bounce back came four because a lot of his

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Speaker 3: shots that he missed in Game three were mostly shots

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Speaker 3: that he normally takes. So I still give the edge

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Speaker 3: to New York even with their injuries. I mean, they've

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Speaker 3: been so used to this and they have a lot

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Speaker 3: of depth that they have what it takes to be

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Speaker 3: able to overcome it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Mark, I have to talk about that huge elephant

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Speaker 2: in the room. Where did this defensive tenacity of the

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Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks come from?

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Speaker 3: You know where it came from. His name is PJ. Washon.

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Speaker 3: It is a huge thing because, as you know, Olden,

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Speaker 3: they did not play any defense last year. Now, part

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Speaker 3: of it is because they got rid of all their

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Speaker 3: good defenders and the Kyrie Irving trade, but there was

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Speaker 3: a thought last summer when they got Grant Williams. They've

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Speaker 3: become a better defensive team. It just wasn't there. They

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Speaker 3: showed splashes here or there, but they came back to

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Speaker 3: them showing more of their familiar sides. Of it was

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Speaker 3: Luca Dodgers and Kyrie Irving playing a high level offensively

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Speaker 3: and no one doing anything else. And so I think

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Speaker 3: PJ Washington he's been the acts factor. He can defend

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Speaker 3: one through five. He's very physical. We saw that in

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Speaker 3: the Clippers series with getting other under certain guys Skins,

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Speaker 3: especially Russell Westbrook. We've seen that against Oklahoma City as well.

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Speaker 3: And I think that the other thing that's good with

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Speaker 3: PJ is he's a pretty good outside shooter, and so

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Speaker 3: he's given the MAVs additional four stations, the additional options. So

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Speaker 3: it's not just about Luke and Kyrie carrying the team.

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Speaker 3: And as much as Luke and Kyrie have those instincts

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Speaker 3: to do it, I think that they'd be willing to

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Speaker 3: pass the ballmore in past season so that they felt

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Speaker 3: they could trust their teammates, and PJ is someone that

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Speaker 3: they certainly trust.

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Speaker 1: Oh you saw that him the leading scorer for the

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Speaker 1: Mavericks today in the win earlier today. But let's talk

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Speaker 1: about let's move over to the other series in the West,

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Speaker 1: the Timberwolves and the Nuggets. This is a series that

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Speaker 1: I feel like the collective of America is like, wait,

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Speaker 1: what is going on here?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like when you have Minnesota play the way that in

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Speaker 1: the first two games and then play the way they

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Speaker 1: did in Game three, combined with the way that the

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Speaker 1: Nuggets played the first two games and the way that

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Speaker 1: they came out and played Game three, which one of

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Speaker 1: these things do you think is more likely to continue

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Speaker 1: the Game two output the Game three output in this

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Speaker 1: series going forward?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a really tough question to answer. I think that,

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Speaker 3: first of all, the game this series is going to

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Speaker 3: full seven games, But I think that moving forward, what's

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Speaker 3: more likely to happen Game two or Game three? I

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Speaker 3: think that I can see that both Denver and Minnesota

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Speaker 3: playing at a high level, but I can't see moving

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Speaker 3: forward that we're gonna see certain opponents just laying egg.

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Speaker 3: I think the Nuggets they were showing some uh you know,

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Speaker 3: ill fill filled signs, ill fated signs that we saw

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Speaker 3: in the first round against the Lakers, where they seemed

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Speaker 3: a little complacent and they're playing with their food in

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Speaker 3: the first half.

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Speaker 2: But you can't do.

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Speaker 3: That against Minnesota. And I think with Minnesota it was

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Speaker 3: a product of finally getting the nuggets best shot and

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Speaker 3: then missing some three pointers. And so I think that

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Speaker 3: Minnesota will play more effectively. But now they a local

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Speaker 3: sleeping giant with the Nuggets. So if I had to

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Speaker 3: get make a pick, I would go Minnesota simply because

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Speaker 3: they are the driver's sea was still having a two

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Speaker 3: to one series lead. But you obviously can't just count

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Speaker 3: the defending champ for the Nuggets, especially if they're going

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Speaker 3: to contain to play at this high level.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mark, I got a real quick one for you.

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Speaker 1: Give me a short answer to this one. Mike Budenholder

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Speaker 1: signs a five year deal with the Phoenix Suns. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna set the over under at three. How many are

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Speaker 1: three and a half? How many years does he coach

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Speaker 1: in Phoenix?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think in today's NBA coaches are hired to

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Speaker 3: be fired, So I think three is a safe bet here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would definitely take the under as well,

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Speaker 1: especially you see the way that Matt Eshbia has been

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Speaker 1: running that franchise since he took ownership of it. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, Mark, I'd never take the under on you,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Appreciate you joining the show. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: NBA insider Mark Madeena one of the hardest men in

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Speaker 1: show biz. Thanks for coming on, my friend.

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Speaker 3: Martin, I want to appreciate all the great work you

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Speaker 3: do as well.

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, coming up next, I gotta ask Olden because

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Speaker 1: you know what, nobody's ever gave it damn about me,

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Speaker 1: the roach heat, like if he would sign up for

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Speaker 1: this type of treatment. We'll get to that next. And

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Speaker 1: of course look in on the Celtics and the as

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Speaker 1: if they just now get started zero zero there still

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Speaker 1: with one minute left on a one minute off of

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Speaker 1: the clock. So far, that'll be next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Martin Weiss, Olden Polonies coming to you live from the

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Speaker 1: Tirec dot Com studios. Old And as I said at

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Speaker 1: the break, no one's ever cared enough about me to

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Speaker 1: try to roast me and feel free to, you know,

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Speaker 1: give it your best shot. I guess At Martin Weiss

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Speaker 1: Pandora's box, I've attended one roast in life. But the

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Speaker 1: difference between that one and the rest of it. This

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Speaker 1: was my former boss cousin sal who is a comedian

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Speaker 1: in his own right, right, those fall types of funny

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Speaker 1: bits and stuff like that. So it was a little

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Speaker 1: bit of like all of his friends were around, and

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Speaker 1: they also they wrote their own jokes, right, it's a

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Speaker 1: kind of a comedian's right, a passage. But to have

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady get roasted on Netflix like that for not

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Speaker 1: only that for three hours long, oh my god, you said,

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Speaker 1: oh my god.

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Speaker 2: We watched that thing. Oh my god, it was funny

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Speaker 2: as man. I would never sit there for three hours

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Speaker 2: to get roasted like he did. I mean, I was insane.

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Speaker 1: I guess when you win seven championships, you know, you

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Speaker 1: wonder like what are they gonna say? But I mean

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Speaker 1: still they found a lot.

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Speaker 2: Some of it was cringeworthy. Oh yeah, some of Nicki

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Speaker 2: Glazer had the best set. Got to give her props

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Speaker 2: for that, you know. But at the same time, the

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Speaker 2: everybody had their moments. But it was like damn And

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Speaker 2: one time I think when they went at craft, Tom

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Speaker 2: was like, oh no, we ain't gonna talk about the

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Speaker 2: message thing, you know, so that was like, while it

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Speaker 2: was borderline, but I'm like, there's no rules in roasting.

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Speaker 1: That was actually when I turned it on. So I

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Speaker 1: cause I saw a tweet come out from somebody on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I think it might have been at my sports update.

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Speaker 1: He was a good follow if you're looking just for

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Speaker 1: like information and news, but he tweets out almost had

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Speaker 1: a Will Smith moment at the Tom Brady Rose And

751
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Speaker 1: so I'm watching it and I'm like, well, this isn't

752
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Speaker 1: very you know, you know, talk about Will Smith moment.

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Speaker 1: Keep my wife's name out your MF and mouth. You're

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Speaker 1: expecting that it's gonna be h, you know. And then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Tom Brady gets up drinking hands

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Speaker 1: like yo, don't you say that that's again? I was like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: We did almost have a.

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Speaker 2: Will Smith moment. It was crazy, man, But again I

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Speaker 2: still don't believe that was real. Man, Look if not.

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Speaker 1: I was watching that live with my girlfriend, who's an

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Speaker 1: entertainment journalist. She was like, wait, is that real? And

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Speaker 1: I said, look that man, Will Smith walked up like

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Speaker 1: he knew he was about to hit him in the face.

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Speaker 1: I know that I've seen that look on people's face.

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Speaker 1: Sometime when they walking towards me. If I was Chris Rock,

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Speaker 1: the best advice I would have gave is.

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Speaker 2: God, I wish Will would have slapped me.

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Speaker 1: See, I don't know if we would have been able

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Speaker 1: to reach bro.

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Speaker 2: I think every thing about that thing is that there's

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Speaker 2: certain people you know you can hit, and there's certain

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Speaker 2: people you know damn well you can't put your hands

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Speaker 2: anywhere near them. And that was one of those moments,

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Speaker 2: you know. But anyway, getting back to the roast the best,

775
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Speaker 2: like I said, it was amazing, you know, and I

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Speaker 2: love Gronk man that joke about the big Cooin. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, she said, even Gronk is small enough in

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Speaker 2: the Big Coin, even Gronk.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, that was I feel like you said, just

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Speaker 1: a villegolect top to the departed, Like there's guys you

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Speaker 1: could hit and the guys you can't hit. I'm the

782
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Speaker 1: type of guy that decides who's the guy you could

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Speaker 1: hit the guys you can't hit.

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Speaker 2: But uh, when I have people selling oranges on the

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Speaker 2: side of the freeway, you.

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Speaker 1: Drinking cranberry juice? Anyway? Uh? Yeah, No, First that I

787
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Speaker 1: didn't love the fact that he kind of got up

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Speaker 1: and felt the need to defend this seventy something year

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Speaker 1: old billionaire who was like, I mean, he's got enough

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Speaker 1: money to buy this entire thing. Like I think we're good.

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Speaker 1: I think he's good here, he's got his own back.

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Speaker 1: But uh yo, but you would so you would never

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Speaker 1: sign up to do the roast of all the polonies.

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Speaker 2: No, not to be roasted. I've done roast where I've

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Speaker 2: roasted you know the person. But you're not gonna talk

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Speaker 2: about me. I mean, I wouldn't mind. But at the

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Speaker 2: same time, know that it comes back same thing. Make

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Speaker 2: you laugh, will make you cry, I mean, and me,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm petty. I will make it. I will dig

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Speaker 2: deep like I want to cut.

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Speaker 8: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I can see it now. Olden at his roast taking notes.

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Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, okay, look out below, pal, you're

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Speaker 1: going to get yours.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I don't think that, you know, I suppose

807
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, making fun of somebody is the best way

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Speaker 1: to show you care.

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Speaker 2: About them or something. I don't know, how about just

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Speaker 2: I care? So that's how you showed I care about you,

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Speaker 2: Old and.

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Speaker 1: Quickly on this Boston and Cleveland game, right, it seems

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Speaker 1: to me you. You highlighted it earlier with the loss

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Speaker 1: of kristaphs Worzingis, and so did Mark Medina as well.

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Speaker 1: But I think Kristaps Warzingils that have something to do

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Speaker 1: or something to say at least about the way that

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Speaker 1: Evan Mobley has been playing in the last two games.

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Speaker 2: He's been bawling. Yeah, he has, I mean, because he

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Speaker 2: has no resistance. I mean Al Horford he's you know,

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Speaker 2: he's serviceable, but he's older and he's not going to

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Speaker 2: be able to stay with Evan Mobley. He's not athletic enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think then, you know, when you really think

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Speaker 1: about it, the move for Christaps was kind of the

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Speaker 1: thing that they felt put them over the top.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Another big you're leaning further into Joe Missoula's strategy of

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Speaker 1: let's shoot every single three pointer. There's no such thing

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Speaker 1: as a bad three point shot in Joe Mizoula's mind,

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Speaker 1: and we know that Kristaps doesn't mind shooting him. But

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Speaker 1: coming up next, speaking of coaches like Joe Missoula, we

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Speaker 1: I know a lot has happened since the year twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: but Frank Vogel won a championship that year and has

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Speaker 1: since been fired twice now, once from the Los Angeles Lakers,

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Speaker 1: now this most recent time from the Phoenix Suns. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what Vogel was supposed to do here,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the office space, What is it that

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Speaker 1: you do here? Like I don't know what he was

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Speaker 1: supposed to do with Devin Booker, Kevin Durant, and Grayson Allen.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sorry Devin Booker, Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal and

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Speaker 1: Grayson Allen being your fearsome forsome to try to win

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Speaker 1: a title there. Now you had matt Ishbia at his postseason,

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Speaker 1: you know, after the season, that postseason, let me get

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Speaker 1: at the season ending kind of stay of the Suns

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Speaker 1: talk about how close they were and how twenty six

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Speaker 1: other teams would trade everything that they got for what

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Speaker 1: the Phoenix Suns had, and at that time they still

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Speaker 1: had Frank Vogel. So I, well, I guess we'll see

856
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: there should be twenty six other teams lining up to

857
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: hire Frank Vogel. By matt Ishbia's math is that how

858
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: that works?

859
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 2: Matt Ishbia's math is off. They might want them, but

860
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: part and Parcel. I don't want all three of them together.

861
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: You know, we can spread them out because they don't mesh. Well,

862
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: you know, that was a disaster waiting to happen when

863
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: they you know, when they did all those moves. You know,

864
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: you bring in three ball dominant guys, Okay and Kevin,

865
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: you know, every now and then, you know, he knows

866
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: how to pass. He buys his time and he's he's

867
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: not a guy that you know he needs a volume

868
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 2: shoot sure, but Booker yes, Bill yes. And so to me,

869
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: that again, that was an accident waiting to happen with them.

870
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: So I don't know what they expected a Vogel, you know,

871
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: And it's it's almost it's crazy to me because he

872
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: gets he gets burned all the time. You know, he

873
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: won the championship with the Lakers in Boom you Gotta Go.

874
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: Got fired in the middle of a game. I mean

875
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: in the post game press conferencer, you're hearing, hey, Frank,

876
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: So tweets came out that the Lakers are looking on

877
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: moving on from you after a win.

878
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: After man, it's insane. But you know, they had injuries.

879
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: You know, Grace and Allen Bill played sparingly throughout the season,

880
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: so it was a lot of stuff going on with

881
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: the Suns and they just didn't play well. And so

882
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: to me, you know, getting swept by Minnesota said a

883
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: lot about this team. And again I don't know what

884
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: what Matt is looking at. And so now they bringing

885
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: Bultenholzer who was let go by the Milwaukee Bucks. And

886
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: I mean after, you know, he won a championship and

887
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: in what two years later, he's fired. So it's just

888
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: saying I think Mark said, you know, yeah, you get

889
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: hired to be fired, and that's how it.

890
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: Is pretty much good thing that money is all Garrett.

891
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 2: But you know what, I will say this, I don't

892
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: believe coaches should get rehired right away. I think they

893
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: should all sit out of you Why is that because

894
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: they just need to clear their heads. Just get some

895
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: things right, because no other professional you getting fired and

896
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: you're getting rehired and you're getting better jobs. That's insane

897
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: to me. That's the most insane thing in the world.

898
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: I'm getting an upgrade. So I ruined this organization, whether

899
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: my fault or not, and I'm getting an upgrade. That's

900
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: come on, Sit out of you, everybody.

901
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: Well, Butenholzer did sit out a year. And it's funny

902
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: because the last thing that I remember was the last

903
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: play of Mike Budenholder's Bucks career was Grayson Allen euro

904
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: stepping as the clock expired in the first round against

905
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: the Miami Heat. He was then fired because you know,

906
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: he was not ab to get the entire you know,

907
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 1: get as much as he could out of that Milwaukee team.

908
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: And now he's replacing a guy who, in matt Ishpia

909
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: and the rest of the Phoenix Sun's brain trust eyes

910
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: was not able to get enough out of that team.

911
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: So what could go wrong?

912
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: Like everything?

913
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: Like I was, I was kind of tongue in cheek

914
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: right as I said that. You know, as Medina Bodenholder

915
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: signs a five year deal, he'll earn fifty plus million

916
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the deal, set the over under

917
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: at three and a half. Would you take the over

918
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: or the under? I too would take the under because

919
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: as much as the coach either. This is the third

920
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: coach in three years now the Sons, And remember they

921
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: were in the finals not too long ago, this Son's team,

922
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: and then they ended up moving on from Donte william

923
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: DeAndre aight, and move on from him now they kicked

924
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: Monty Williams up to Detroit. And do you want to

925
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: talk about somebody stealing money anyway? That's the topic for

926
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: another day. But uh life, I mean, highest paid coach,

927
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: worst record, how about that? Anyway? Uh where do you

928
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 1: think the Sons go from here? Do you expect to

929
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: see Mike Budenholzer do anything? I mean, I feel like

930
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: the cards are already stacked against him, The decks are

931
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: already stacked against him walking into Phoenix.

932
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this is the best way I can

933
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: describe it. Again, we go back to coaches and teams

934
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: take on personalities. What's Frank Vogel's personality that the Suns

935
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 2: will take and embrace? We don't know what it is, sure,

936
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 2: And so what you have are individuals you know. And

937
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: so we've watched good coaches, man and the teams. You

938
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: know they have a tenacity because the coaches to nations.

939
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 2: Jerry Sloan is the guy that comes to mind. In Utah,

940
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: everybody played the way Jerry played, and so it was

941
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: you embraced that. You know, pat Riley, you know the

942
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: swag the Lakers played that way because that was pat Riley.

943
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: You know, hardworking Miami Heat. Right now, they take on

944
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: Sposal's personality. Heat culture. Key culture starts at the time.

945
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: What's Vogel's personality, What's Bootenholzer's personality. So now you're asking

946
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: these all stars, future Hall of famers, to take on

947
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: a quiet demeanor, you know, low level. I don't know.

948
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, and it's insane, and

949
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 2: these guys they keep forgetting that part of the equation.

950
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: I have to bring in a guy, you know that

951
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 2: these guys will respect and they gonna play hard for

952
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: And if I can't get that, then I might as

953
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: well go into college ranks, go find somebody there. I

954
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: don't know, it's just weird Lakers. At the same thing

955
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: with Darvin Ham and this guy went to the West

956
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: Conference Finals and one, forty seven games, he still got fired.

957
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll talk about the Lakers and just a little bit.

958
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: That'll be the next I've been coming up. But I mean,

959
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: to the point, Vogel forty nine wins, avoided the playing

960
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: tournament and just ran into a young buzzsaw and Anthony

961
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: Edwards in the Minnesota Timberwolves. Who I mean you think

962
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: that Ispio looks any differently after he saw the way

963
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: that games one and two of the next series went

964
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: for the defending champion Denver Nuggets as they ran into

965
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: the Timberwolves bus saw as.

966
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: Well, well, you know what, that was an aberration. Here's

967
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: what happened with Denver in the first two games. They

968
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: did the defending champion mentality, and they didn't take them seriously. Okay,

969
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: that's what it was. Where did defending champions? They young,

970
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: they haven't been here before, and so they're like, okay,

971
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna do that.

972
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: And they had just knocked them out the year prior.

973
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 2: Exactly, and so we're like, okay, boom, all of a sudden,

974
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: they came out pow pow, and Denvers, oh wow. Referees

975
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: were making the calls that Denver normally gets. Yeah, and

976
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: that threw them off.

977
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: The officiating a game too, I mean it was you

978
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: had to attempt murder to get a foul called on it.

979
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: They were letting everything go reminists of the eighties and nineties,

980
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: and I was loving it.

981
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean not only everything. I mean Michael Malone ran

982
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: out of the court like it was a baseball mastering,

983
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: no tech, nothing, That's what I'm saying.

984
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: It was like why they just said, you know what,

985
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: We're just gonna let it be, and Denver could not recover.

986
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 2: And then the second game, similar stuff. But they just

987
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: shot bad, they played poorly, and that's okay. But Game

988
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: three they righted the ship, and I think they're gonna

989
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: win the next game, you know, get their home court back,

990
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: and they'll win the series. I believe they're gonna win

991
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: the series.

992
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: Well I'll tell you what if you do, you go

993
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: ahead and make a nice little bit of scratch on

994
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 1: that one, if you wanted to go to your local

995
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: sportsbook and put that in, because Denver nug is still

996
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: underdogs in the series as far came out prohibited favorites.

997
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: But obviously you lose two games in a row at home,

998
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: especially that second game the way it was then then

999
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: you'll end up, you know, being an underdog game.

1000
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 2: I saw a team lose three in a row and

1001
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: came back and won. I mean, it has happened before.

1002
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 2: And they're the Jack one High team, Boston Celtics.

1003
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: It has happened before.

1004
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 2: I mean.

1005
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: This Boston team as we look here right now, I

1006
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: don't know.

1007
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 2: Wait did they win that serious? Oh am I messing around?

1008
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 2: I don't. I might have to double check that one.

1009
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: When they went three to Miami, I don't remember if

1010
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: they won. No, they push it to seven. They pushed

1011
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: it to seventhi ed up winning, that's right. But they

1012
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: got the seventh, so okay, they at least got it

1013
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: to that. So I think Devera gets hit the seven,

1014
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 2: they're gonna win the game seven at home.

1015
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: And to your point, I do think we've never seen

1016
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: the three to zero series end up going the other way.

1017
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: But it's coming. It's coming, especially the way that these

1018
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: teams play now, especially if you look at a team

1019
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: like Boston. There's many three pointers as a shot in

1020
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: the NBA today. The variance on the three point shot, like,

1021
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: I get it, it's it's one more than two. I

1022
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: also took math, but You can't tell me that forty

1023
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: percent from three is better all the time than fifty

1024
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: five sixty percent from two.

1025
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 2: Listen, I look at it this way. Every shot is

1026
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: a fifty fifty proposition. It either goes in or it doesn't.

1027
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: The problem with the three pointer is this, if you miss,

1028
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: it has to go in. It has it has no

1029
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: other choice but to go in because if you miss,

1030
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 2: fast break right. And that's the problem. And that's why

1031
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying a lot of teams, I don't mind you

1032
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: shooting threes. I don't mind you living and dying by threes,

1033
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: which you gotta know time and score when you're gonna

1034
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 2: take that three. You can't just come down and shoot

1035
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 2: a three every single time, especially when it's defended wide open.

1036
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 2: You should always take a wide open three. I'm a

1037
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: firm believer in that. If you're wide open, but don't

1038
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 2: just shoot a three just to shoot a three.

1039
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: Well that Joe Mizula would laugh at you with that take,

1040
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: because that's all they want to do is shoot threes

1041
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: and layups. I think they're taking it a little too

1042
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: far exactly when it comes to it, because to me,

1043
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs in general come down to how many people

1044
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: do I have on my team that can get a

1045
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: bucket when we are when there's six six seconds left

1046
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: on the shot clock, we've already ran our action. It

1047
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 1: wasn't there.

1048
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 2: Now what now?

1049
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: What do we do? It's part of the reason why

1050
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: I like the Mavericks over the Thunder, because you got

1051
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: two guys in Luca and Kyrie that'll be able to

1052
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: break down the defense and get a high quality shot

1053
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: whenever they want to. Right, And you think when you

1054
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: look at NBA team, that's kind of the way I

1055
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: look at the postseason, Right, how good defense do you play?

1056
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: How well do you rebound? How many guys do you

1057
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: have that can get a bucket when everything is ugly? Right? Then,

1058
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: I think the Celtics they have a few guys who could,

1059
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: but all they want to do is side stepe and

1060
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: shoot threes.

1061
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: I'll get I'll go back to the game, the pace,

1062
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: his Knicks game, nem Haart making that shot. I give

1063
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: him ten more shots attempts, He'll miss all of them.

1064
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm dead serious. In that moment, in that situation,

1065
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 2: he eaved that thing up from across his chest and

1066
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 2: it happened to go in.

1067
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: Look, he was surprised. He was surprised, and he bailed

1068
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 1: out Tyreese Halliburton to who passed him what they called.

1069
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what. I was like, how do you

1070
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 2: even pick up that ball?

1071
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyreese Halliburton, to me, he was a good story

1072
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: in the first half of the season, but to me

1073
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: he ultimately would be the reason why the Knicks end

1074
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: up advancing because he's just not at the something about

1075
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: the playoffs, man, I know, Shaq always says it, did

1076
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: you watch his TNT broadcast? Act Well, I need more,

1077
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: I need more? And it's like as much as Tyre's

1078
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: Halliburton can play, and he's you know, he's out there

1079
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: running around getting his numbers, getting his points. It's like

1080
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: when the when the rubber meets the row man when

1081
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: it's crunch time, how well do you depend on him

1082
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: to get the shot up?

1083
00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: And it's I don't yeah, well, I don't know. I'm

1084
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: not going to speak on that young man. He's really

1085
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 2: made himself into a player, an all star, but ooh man,

1086
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: he's getting some empty calories. You know, some of those

1087
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: like the thirty five the other night that was in

1088
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: an empty that was horrible because it really didn't affect

1089
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: the game, you know, and yesterday you know, he's the

1090
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: first one. And which is crazy to me to stat

1091
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 2: to have thirty points in back to back games with

1092
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: five May threes. I'm thinking to myself, Damn, Reggie never

1093
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: did that. That was insane of a stat. But again,

1094
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: it's like, you have to impact the game. If you're

1095
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: an All Star, you have to, right, And he's just

1096
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 2: getting empty calories right now. It's just a lot of

1097
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: you know, Luckily for them, they won that game, but

1098
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: the Knicks, to me, the Knicks gave that game away

1099
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: more than the Pacers wonted.

1100
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with that one. Coming up next,

1101
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: we'll dive into the Lakers coaching shirt. Which podcaster will

1102
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: be the next head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers me.

1103
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 1: We'll break that down coming up next. Well, you know

1104
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: what podcasts will be coming out of this too. We're

1105
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: both eligible, Lebron, think about it. Give us a call.

1106
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm available, all right, I'm available, just letting it be

1107
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: known because that is old and that's my dream job.

1108
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: To be a fired coach. That's my dream job. If

1109
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,800
Speaker 1: I can convince one person to hire me, I'll be fired.

1110
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: Summarily after but that money, you know, a big pat

1111
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: all guaranteed.

1112
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: All right.

1113
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,959
Speaker 1: Coming up next Martin and Olden Polonies, Fox Sports Radio,

1114
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: Martin Weiss Olden Polonies coming to you live from the

1115
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: Tirack dot Com studios. If you want to join the conversation,

1116
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: you can get at us on Twitter. I'm at Martin

1117
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: Weiss and Olden Polonies is at Olden POLONIESE one. We'll

1118
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: be getting to your tweets throughout the show. Like Samson said,

1119
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: another clutch Kyrie Dagger to close out Oklahoma City for

1120
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: the game three win. We'll touch that in just a

1121
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: a while because of the Mavericks and then Thunder. We'll

1122
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: get to that at the top of the next hour

1123
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: as we move through here today. But I got to

1124
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: ask you, man, the Los Angeles Lakers, they had Mike

1125
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: Budenholzer apparently was on the list of coaches they were

1126
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 1: interested in. Well he's gone down to Phoenix. Kenny Atkinson

1127
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: on the list as well, and most notably Lebron's podcast

1128
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: co host JJ Reddick. They may be taking that conversation

1129
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: behind closed doors. As you know, we see the Mind

1130
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: the Game podcast is apparently one of the better ones

1131
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: out there. Hand up my bad. I'm not a subscriber,

1132
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: Patrick Beverly, do not get upset with me. You gotta

1133
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: subscribe to your podcast either. But what do you make

1134
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: of the idea that JJ Reddick, fifteen year NBA vet

1135
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: but zero year NBA head coach could potentially get his

1136
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: first head coaching job coaching Lebron James and you're twenty two.

1137
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's already precedent, So you know, what

1138
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: can you say? You know, So Derek Fisher get a

1139
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: head coach, Jacks, So, Steve k get a head coaching jobs,

1140
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: and so many other guys. So it is what it is, man,

1141
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: Jason Kidd. So he's put himself in a position where,

1142
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: you know, he seems to be knowledgeable. But uh, I

1143
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: say that with some trepidation. You know, just because you're

1144
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 2: going to act like you know what you're doing, doesn't

1145
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: mean you know what you're doing and coaching NBA basketball,

1146
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 2: coaching basketball player. I've been coaching for twenty years now.

1147
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 2: And the funny thing about it, I'll say this right quick.

1148
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 2: My first job that I got, after the first game,

1149
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: I reached out to all my ex coaches and I

1150
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 2: apologize to that I swear to God, I apologize to

1151
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: every last one of them, the ones that I could reach,

1152
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 2: right because I was like, oh my god, I didn't

1153
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 2: even realize it was this difficult. And so to me,

1154
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: and this was coaching at what level. This was a

1155
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: pro team, but it was Lord, have mercy, the stuff

1156
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: you gotta deal with. And so I say that to

1157
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: say this. You know, JJ Reddick right now, like I said,

1158
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: he's put himself in a great position to be considered

1159
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 2: and they would have to definitely, you know, give him

1160
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 2: some knowledgeable assistant coaches, you know. But again, if it

1161
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 2: was the Lakers, you might as well as just say

1162
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: Lebron will be coaching the team, true, okay, and JJ

1163
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: will be the standing And so to me, that's how

1164
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm looking at it. So again, the Lakers need a

1165
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 2: name right now. They've been doing the no name guys.

1166
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: They need a name coach. They need a coach of stuff.

1167
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 2: It's got to be like a supposed to it's got

1168
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 2: to be a Steve Kurt, it's got to be one

1169
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 2: of those guys.

1170
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 1: They got to get back to that level, somebody who

1171
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: has already had an established track record of success in

1172
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: the league.

1173
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: Exactly and that is respected. It's the key.

1174
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: You took the words right out of my mouth. For me,

1175
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: it's because here's the thing. Lebron's had like what seven

1176
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: coaches in twenty one years of playing basketball. That's not

1177
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: a great record. But when you look down the list,

1178
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: it's not also not a great record. You know, he

1179
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: looked on the list. There's nothing, there's no, it ain't no.

1180
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: Pat Riley's on the list besides Spolstra, right when you

1181
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: look at his Postry who's had a ton of success

1182
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: in his career. But you know, still what one Finals

1183
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: appearance without Lebron, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,

1184
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: it's still still up there in terms of.

1185
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: And he was trying to get him fired, right.

1186
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: So but to me, when you look at this season,

1187
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: it was if look, you know more about basketball, You've

1188
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: forgotten more about basketball than I'll ever know, right, haven't

1189
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: played it at the highest level all around the world.

1190
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: For me, one thing I knew to be sure and evident,

1191
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: and one thing I got a ton of experience in

1192
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: is respect for people. And it was evident that Lebron,

1193
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis did not have respect, not disagreed,

1194
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: not you thought there was another way they did not

1195
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: respect Darvin Ham. I think you go back to the

1196
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: postseason comments of Anthony Davis. Uh, you know sometimes on

1197
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: offense and defense, we don't know what to do. Well, Olden,

1198
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 1: there's only two sides of the ball in basketball. It's

1199
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: not like the special teams was running the show, right.

1200
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: And then when you saw Lebron so vehemently and agitated

1201
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: about not getting that call reviewed, jumping up and down,

1202
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: stumping on the floor, waving his arms in the air

1203
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: like he was talking to it, like like that's the

1204
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: level of respect generally that you see reserved for officials,

1205
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: not the official, that's the head coach of the team.

1206
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: So I to me, what the Lakers have to do.

1207
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: They have got to find a name that Lebron and

1208
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis not only signed off on in the in

1209
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: the in the interim, but also have the utmost respect

1210
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: for That to me, is going to be the ultimate

1211
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: key there, because when things go wrong, as they sometimes will,

1212
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: the Lakers are going to be pointing at that head

1213
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: coach for good or for bad.

1214
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: And that's the problem with the Lakers because right the

1215
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: last two years, I'll just use the last two years.

1216
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: I always had Darvinham to blame for anything that happened,

1217
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 2: and that's a problem. How about we say, hey, you

1218
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 2: know what, we didn't play well. We didn't play hard enough,

1219
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: we didn't listen to the directions that he gave, we

1220
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: didn't follow the game plan. Those work too, because I know,

1221
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 2: damn well, you guys are not perfect, and you guys

1222
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: are not playing perfect basketball. You guys make a ton

1223
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: of mistakes. I almost said a bad word. You make

1224
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 2: a ton of mistakes during the course of a game.

1225
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 2: And I said this to you off air. I like

1226
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 2: how the Lakers played when Lebron was out, when he

1227
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: was in street clothes. They just played with a much

1228
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: more sense of camaraderie, right, you know, and it just

1229
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: it looked better to me. I'm not saying, oh, no, whatever,

1230
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: you don't need Lebron. It's just it's that mentality. It's like, okay,

1231
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: but how do we get that same vibe when he

1232
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: is out there instead of being the guys every through

1233
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: now when Lebron's in the game, we defer, defer, defer, defer.

1234
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: But that's Darvin Ham's fault. No, that's you guys's fault.

1235
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: You guys as players and as management, we have to

1236
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: look at everything and it's all in play. And so

1237
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: if you're not going to bring in a guy that

1238
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 2: can demand that level of respect, or here's another name,

1239
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 2: but he's never gonna leave. San Antonio Popovitch, Papa Villdew

1240
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: had this thing straight today.

1241
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you're out. I hadn't really thought

1242
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: about these guys who are already entrenched in the league.

1243
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: But I don't think you're off. What I do think

1244
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: would be a disastrous decision is hiring JJ Redick. And

1245
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: he may be a good coach, I don't know. I

1246
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: don't know, and I think honestly, if you look at

1247
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: the way that coach won't well to the point you

1248
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: look at the way the coaches are hired and fired

1249
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: in this league, we may never even if he gets

1250
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: the opportunity to be a head.

1251
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: Coach, he's gonna end up being like a Derek Fischer.

1252
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: He's not I don't think he'll be a good coach

1253
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: because one of the problems is this, his belief systems, okay,

1254
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 2: are not gonna bode well with players. Okay, and by that,

1255
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like you're knocking history. Okay, But

1256
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: now you're gonna be a coach and you're gonna need

1257
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: that history to reference to your players. You know, oh

1258
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: they were fire not fireman, they were what insurance salesman's

1259
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: and you talk bad about Yeah. Problem is you talk

1260
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 2: bad about these guys, but at some point in time

1261
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 2: as a head coach, you need to reference these guys

1262
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: with the respect they deserved. And so to me, those

1263
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: are some of the things that will not bode well

1264
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 2: for him as a head coach.

1265
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 1: Will continue this conversation on the other side, Let's go

1266
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: ahead right now, kick it to Kevin Wyard for what's

1267
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: trending in the world of sports. Game three, Kevin, what's

1268
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: going on?

1269
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, Boston Celtics right now in front of the Cleveland

1270
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 7: Cavaliers fifty one forty two with about three minutes ago

1271
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 7: before halftime. As it's a Jason Tatamy's got twelve points

1272
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 7: to lead the way. We've got Drew Holliday with fifteen

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Speaker 7: points as well for Boston, Jalen Brown with thirteen. Donovan

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Speaker 7: Mitchell doing much of everything by himself for the Cavaliers

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Speaker 7: as he's got nineteen points off five to seven, three

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Speaker 7: point at ten, seven to eleven, shooting overall, but no

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Speaker 7: one else in double figures for the Cavaliers. Evan Mobiley

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Speaker 7: does have nine points. This series is tied at one

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Speaker 7: game apiece, so this is a very pivotal Game three

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Speaker 7: for either side. Earlier today, we saw the Dallas Mavericks

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01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 7: weet the Oklahoma City Thunder one oh five, one oh

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Speaker 7: one behind huge performances from the big three of the

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Speaker 7: Dallas Mavericks to combine seventy one points for PJ. Washington,

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Speaker 7: Kyrie Irving, and Luca Doncic. Jake gild Alexander an outstanding

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Speaker 7: game in the loss. He had thirty one points, ten rebounds,

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Speaker 7: six assists, and five blocks. That's the second most blocks

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Speaker 7: by a point guard in a single game in NBA history.

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01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 7: Only Fred Van Fleet, who had six on January twenty

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01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 7: fourth this year against the Charlotte Hornets, has had more

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Speaker 7: blocks as a point guard in a single game. NHL

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Speaker 7: Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Carolina Hurricanes look like they're closing

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Speaker 7: in on their first victory of their series against the

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Speaker 7: New York Rangers, and the final seconds have ticked down

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01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 7: in Raleigh. The Hurricanes beat the New York Rangers four

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Speaker 7: to three, so after being down three to nothing in

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Speaker 7: this series. They now make it three to one, trying

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Speaker 7: to see if they can climb back and make this

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Speaker 7: a competitive series once more. The second game of the

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Speaker 7: day coming up in the Stanley Cup Playoffs, the Stars

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Speaker 7: in Avalanche. Puck's supposed to drop a little over thirty

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Speaker 7: minutes from now. Major League Baseball Dodgers and Padres are

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Speaker 7: in the fourth inning, top of the fourth and it's

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01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 7: La in front, one nothing, although you do have a

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 7: runner on second, one out, so La is threatening. Rangers

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01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 7: have now taken the lead against the Colorado Rockies. It's

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01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 7: two to one in favor of the Rangers. They've reached

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01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 7: the end of the fifth inning in Denver, Cardinals leading

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01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 7: the Brewers three two. They're in the bottom of the

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01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 7: seventh fitting Giants on top of the Reds five to one.

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Speaker 7: At top of the eighth in San Francisco, bat you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Kevin Martin Wise Olden Polonies coming to you live

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Speaker 1: from the Tireck dot Com studios, and shortly after the show,

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01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: our podcast will be going up. If you miss theed

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Speaker 1: of today's show, be sure to check out that podcast.

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01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get them and

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01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: be sure to follow, rate and review the podcast. Again.

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01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts,

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01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 1: and you'll see this show posted right after we get

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01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: off of the air, continuing the conversation about the Lakers

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Speaker 1: head coaching search and as well as looking in on

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01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: this game through Right now, we see a Jared Allen

1322
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: on the sidelines in a T shirt out for this

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01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: sixth straight game, Cleveland now trailing by eight as Jason

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Speaker 1: de Olton. Now make that eleven as no ten. There

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Speaker 1: you go, that's math. Here we go, all right, at

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Speaker 1: two minutes left in the second quarter, Old and you

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01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: turned to me and midway through the second quarter said,

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Speaker 1: well you got your close game, because I said that

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01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: the Celtics scene to never plays close games, either win

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 1: by ten or lose by twenty. Where do you think,

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01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: I mean the third quarter will be key here? What

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01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: do you think we expect to see out of this game?

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Speaker 2: Well? Right now? The problem is no one's helping Donovan Mitchell.

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01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean outside of Evan Mobley. I mean again, Darius Gland,

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01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 2: You're an All Star and you're playing like doodoo, playing poorly.

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01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, not playing great shoes.

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01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 2: Ain't made a shot, you know. The kid, Dean Wade.

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01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 2: He made the first shot and he just missed a

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01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 2: wide open three point And I'm like, dude, that's you.

1340
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: You have one job, just knock down open shots. So

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01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: to me, it's gonna come down to whether Darius Garland

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01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 2: steps up or that. If he doesn't, there's no way

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01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 2: Cleveland can beat Boston, you know, just with Donovan Mitchell,

1344
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: and Donovan's erradic is all out do is So.

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01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: Dad would say that, think about Donna Mitchell especially. I

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01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: don't know. Man age doesn't seem to have the same

1347
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 1: thing it used to right, the same hangs up that

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01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: it used to. You got Tristan Thompson out here playing

1349
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: in NBA playoff games at twenty twenty four. You got

1350
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, Shaq and Shannon Sharp dropping disc tracks on

1351
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: one another. Like age is not what it used to mean. Man,

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01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 1: it's not what it used to be.

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01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 2: It used to be some sense of reverence for elders.

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01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: It's none of that anymore.

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01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: Jason tadd with fourteen points going into the Havy's attempting

1356
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: free throws. Now, Evan Mobley had a monster dunk just

1357
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: a second ago. To me, I get you on the

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01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: Garland thing and he does have to play better. But

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01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: to me, I think when Mobley is scoring for this

1360
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland team, it really changes the dynamic of how you

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01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 1: have to guard them, especially when you consider, again no

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01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 1: Christaps porzingis to bother Evan Mobley down there. Al Horford

1363
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 1: is trying his best, but a guy like Evan Mobley young, springy,

1364
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: and his offensive game limited right now. But if he's

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01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: able to get to the rim as he has the

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01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: last few times, especially off some of these pick and

1367
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: roll lob threat type of things, I think he could

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01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: be a real X factor for this team.

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01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: Oh definitely. I mean he's he's key. And again you

1370
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 2: know Domin Mitchell gotta keep knocking down three pointers. But

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01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 2: you need help. Last time I checked, Like we talked

1372
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,880
Speaker 2: about you said earlier about math, you know, five playing

1373
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 2: good is gonna beat two playing goods. Unless the two

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01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 2: played great, you're not doing it. So right now they

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01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: need more help. Is see. I was talking about JA

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01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: knowing timing score. They just scored down there a three pointer.

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01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't need a three attempt. And that's what I'm saying.

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01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: These guys, man, a lot of them are mental midgets,

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01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: and that part of that is coaching. You know, run

1380
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 2: a play, you know that's gonna get you a layup.

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01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, sitting and watching the Knicks, that's one

1382
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 1: of the things that I love the most about them.

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01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: They're all dribble handoff. They make things happen, and they

1384
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: put the defense in fluxtion. Don't get me wrong, You'll

1385
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: have guys that shoot what Devincenzo's eight to ten guy

1386
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: eight to ten three point attempts a game when he's

1387
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: out there brunting upwards of seven three point attempts. But

1388
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: they're running offense, they're moving the ball around, you get

1389
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: the big man, gets touches throughout the course of the game.

1390
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: Like it just to me seems they have offense figured

1391
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 1: out in a way that is opposite of what we

1392
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: see for the majority of the NBA, which is kind

1393
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 1: of like paying space. How many three pointers can we

1394
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: get up?

1395
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 2: Tims is old school. It's like I'm gonna run you know,

1396
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: counters and everything else. By the time you figure it out,

1397
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: there's a guy open in the corner, there's a guy

1398
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 2: open over here, and then you know if we if

1399
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: we miss, we're gonna crash the boards. Get a rebound,

1400
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 2: you know long shot, long rebound, they know they doing that,

1401
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: and so to me, those are the key things. It's

1402
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 2: not about I can't get a rebound, come down and

1403
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 2: shoot a three pointer when you're the only guy that

1404
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,879
Speaker 2: touched the ball. The Knicks, they move the ball, everybody

1405
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: touches it, boom, and then I take a shot.

1406
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with the Timberwolves as well. In

1407
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 1: my opinion, when you have a guy who is kind

1408
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: of the apex predator offensively and Anthony Edwards, the thing

1409
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 1: that's most impressive to me about his game is he

1410
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: is not afraid. I shouldn't say most impressive, because what

1411
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: is most impresive some of them dunks that he'd be

1412
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: putting on people with yet, but one of the underrated

1413
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: aspects of his game. He's not afraid to bring the

1414
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: ball up and make the initial pass and then go

1415
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,720
Speaker 1: cut replace to the corner something like that, because he

1416
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: knows if he moves without the ball appropriately, he'll get

1417
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: it back.

1418
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: The Steph Curry effect. Steph Curry kicks it ahead. When

1419
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,799
Speaker 2: he gets the ball up, that's when your work begins.

1420
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 2: You got to make sure he doesn't get the ball back.

1421
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 2: And a lot of these guys when they really know

1422
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: the game. That's what you do. You will get the

1423
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 2: ball back if you give it up. You know. That's

1424
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 2: why I say I have problems with guys that just

1425
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: want to come down and shoot. They don't understand. Hey,

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01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 2: the more you move, the more the ball will find you.

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01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Right now, the Cavaliers trailing by nine fifty seven

1428
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: to forty eight at the half, we'll have we'll be

1429
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 1: all over this game going forward. But old in it's

1430
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: time to play a game right here or right now.

1431
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you've ever well know, you've never

1432
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 1: played who you Got, but you've played something similar. I'm

1433
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 1: sure this is how it all breaks down. Our producer

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01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: over there, Patrick Sweeka, has picked an athlete, okay, and

1435
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: he'll give us a few clues, a few hints, and

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01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: we have to try to guess who this athlete is. See,

1437
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: the key is supposed to be it's an athlete that's

1438
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: relevant today, right but not necessarily one that would jump

1439
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: straight out. So we'll see how Patrick does. Because he's

1440
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,640
Speaker 1: been talking junk about this to me all day so

1441
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: Farunds good, you know you're never gonna get who you Got.

1442
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: You're never gonna get who you got. Well, let's just

1443
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: see how that goes again. Any sport, well, I think

1444
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 1: it's well, do we have can you give us a

1445
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: little preview going on the breakpack?

1446
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: Clue? I just want to know just just what sport?

1447
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: Where are we going?

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: Any sports?

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01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 4: Fine?

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01:12:56,520 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: If you know any sports? Okay, all right, gave it alone.

1451
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 9: I'll say this, Martin knows exactly what I'm thinking, though

1452
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 9: I didn't know exactly what you're thinking.

1453
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 5: Maybe you might have.

1454
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: I could read your mind.

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01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 5: I think you can.

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking.

1457
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:09,600
Speaker 5: I think that's how you've been able to get some

1458
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 5: of these.

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01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: By the way, and don't do basketball because you guys

1460
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: think I only know basketball, you know.

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01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: I have to give it to Old and he's been

1462
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: over here talking soccer, talking baseball. He told me a

1463
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: riveting show. Hal tiny story. Just admitted ago that is

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01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily safe for the airwaves.

1465
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: But we'll be right back with No. I was not

1466
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: gambling with him or his interpreter.

1467
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: No, that probably could make the airwaves. That'd be breaking news.

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01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: Old and fall. He's also involved in a federal scam.

1469
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: Not just kidding. All right, we'll be right back with

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01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: the game of who you Got? Martin weiss Olden Poloniese

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01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,679
Speaker 1: coming to your live in the tirec dot com studios.

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: If you want to join the conversation, I'm at Martin

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01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: weiss Olden is at Olden Polonese. One like George Sands,

1474
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: only likes to send us a trivia question after we

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01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: play this game of who you Got? Let's go ahead

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01:13:57,800 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: and get this thing started.

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01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 2: Before we do. Can I say something right quick? So

1478
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,560
Speaker 2: we were talking about the roast, right, So if I

1479
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: was going to roast you, I would just ask you

1480
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: a question? White, Where'd that come from? Hey?

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: I was born with it? The best I got.

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01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: I saw the name before I came here. I was like, oh,

1483
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: it's a white guy.

1484
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1485
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: I've been getting that my entire life, believe it or not.

1486
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: You know.

1487
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: My favorite was when uh tell a quick story. When

1488
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: Colorado beat TCU in the first game of the season.

1489
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: We were on the air shortly thereafter, and people were

1490
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 1: calling me racist because I said Colorado was on the

1491
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 1: If they won six games, you'd be a massive success.

1492
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, it's racist. He can't get down with time.

1493
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, hold on a minute. P all the way

1494
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: by Blackest said up, and I don't know that. I

1495
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: don't think it's.

1496
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 2: Fans say you're the Drake of the radio war.

1497
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 1: They not like us. I'm not out. Don't call me

1498
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 1: drake though, I don't know you're paying attention to the

1499
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. But I ain't taking o wheals

1500
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 1: like that. All right, let's go get it started.

1501
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 5: It's not rocket side.

1502
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 7: We just want to know.

1503
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 5: Just ask the questions.

1504
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: Who you got?

1505
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 9: All right, Martin and Olden, it is time for the

1506
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 9: game of who you got? So I'm gonna start off

1507
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 9: giving you guys a three hints here, and when we

1508
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 9: go into three hints, we'll go one by one with that.

1509
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 9: So let's get started with the first hint. This man

1510
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 9: is a former first round pick non lottery by the way.

1511
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 9: Number two, he is a one time NBA All Star

1512
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 9: and also made All NBA Third Team once as well.

1513
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 5: And then for number three, let's go with uh, let's

1514
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 5: go with this.

1515
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 9: He averaged fifteen point seven points throughout his entire career.

1516
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 9: So with that said, Martin and Olden, who you got?

1517
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: We got the first round non lottery pick, one time

1518
01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: All Star, one time thirteam All NBA fifteen point. It's

1519
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: a game. I have a guess. Okay, I'm gonna guess

1520
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: Robert Ory.

1521
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 5: Oh, good guess, but no, not at all.

1522
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: Olden has a look on his face like something smells bad.

1523
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 5: Olden, what do you anybody?

1524
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: Or who you got? This is crazy?

1525
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: That could be so many weeks.

1526
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 5: I know I'm doing here.

1527
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: I'll get more. Let's get a few more?

1528
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 5: Does insane?

1529
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 2: The only one I was thinking of, but I don't

1530
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: know if he was a first round pick. I was

1531
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 2: thinking of Debt left shrimp.

1532
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 5: Debt, left shrimp.

1533
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 9: No, but a good pull. But no, it's not him.

1534
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 9: All right, let's go with I'll give you one more

1535
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 9: for this one. Hopefully this narrows it down a little bit.

1536
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 9: He has recorded more than ten thousand points in his career,

1537
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 9: so it's a player that has gotten more than ten

1538
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 9: thousand points.

1539
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 1: Ten thousand points, first round or one time All Star,

1540
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: one time third team All NBA fifteen points a game.

1541
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: Uh stephon Marbury?

1542
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 5: Good?

1543
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: But no, it's too hard.

1544
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 5: I think I think Martin.

1545
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 9: I think Martin is like up to my difficulty here

1546
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 9: he gets just because I'm it's me versus Martin's where.

1547
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 2: All one time All Star, All NBA Third Team. Uh three,

1548
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 2: Well no, but.

1549
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 5: Good Martin, you got anybody, I'm gonna go in another hint,

1550
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 5: Go ahead and go another one?

1551
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 1: All right? That round?

1552
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 9: All right, we'll go with this. This will probably help

1553
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 9: a lot. He has played for multiple teams. These teams

1554
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 9: included the Boston Celtics, the the the the Charlotte Hornets,

1555
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 9: the Pacers, the Timberwolves, and the Utah j S.

1556
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 2: Jackson, What was that, Mark Jackson?

1557
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 5: No, but good, No, that's it's close.

1558
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 2: I like that.

1559
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 1: But Celtics, Hornets, Pacer, Timberwolves, and Jazz Yes, Jeff Hornisack.

1560
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:08,200
Speaker 2: Oh but no, I like that.

1561
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 9: All right, I'll go with I got my one more

1562
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 9: because VJ was telling me I can't be going more

1563
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 9: than seven, So I got one more. I got six

1564
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 9: just because he has successfully recovered and continued to play

1565
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 9: after suffering a torn acl which he established in his career.

1566
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 9: Still bounce back and still kept playing.

1567
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: That's half the damn all lane.

1568
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 9: All right, I'll say this. I'll throw in for the

1569
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,040
Speaker 9: former first round pick. He was drafted by the Celtics.

1570
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 9: And we're talking two thousands. It was the era of

1571
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 9: the two thousands.

1572
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:46,560
Speaker 1: So he's drafted by the Celtics in the two thousands, Hornets, Pacers, Timberwolves,

1573
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 1: and the Jazz not lottery either. Antoine Walker was more

1574
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: than a one time All Star.

1575
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 2: Man. This is tough.

1576
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: I don't think Eddie House played for that many times.

1577
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 2: No, it's not not even close. No, Eddie never made

1578
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 2: All NBA. Do Do Do Do Do Do Do Do

1579
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 2: Do drafted by the Celtics two thousand, So that's say

1580
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 2: two thousand.

1581
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,920
Speaker 1: Before Rondo was more than a one time All Star.

1582
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

1583
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure he made All NBA more than one time,

1584
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: and he didn't play for half these teams, so they

1585
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: didn't count.

1586
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 2: I give up.

1587
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: I want to give one more guest. What was what

1588
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: was the big man on those Celtics teams? The guy

1589
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 1: who played next to Antick.

1590
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 2: That's the key one, not a lottery pick.

1591
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 5: I want to see Martin's gonna get it by barking

1592
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 5: up the right tree, the big the is he a

1593
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 5: big man? You are barking up the right tree? It

1594
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 5: is a big man.

1595
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: I can't. I can see his freaking face.

1596
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 8: Baby, David was no, but you're close. You want me

1597
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 8: go me to give him Martin it's not big, baby, Davis.

1598
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 8: It's big Al Jefferson. I could see his face.

1599
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: I got you, Martin, got you. I can see his face.

1600
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't play. I couldn't.

1601
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:05,680
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

1602
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: Hell is it? I could see him in my mind's eye.

1603
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good one. That one

1604
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 2: Al Jefferson.

1605
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:18,600
Speaker 1: Damn. It was all because my next question was I

1606
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: wanted to ask did he go to college? And now

1607
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 1: if you had said that, I probably would have landed

1608
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 1: on Al Jefferson. But good job by you, Patrick. See,

1609
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: he had a couple of ones that we knocked out

1610
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: of the park after the first round, so now he's

1611
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 1: trying to go a little bit harder.

1612
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,840
Speaker 2: I was joking about the Big Baby Davis one.

1613
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: Hey, but I'll tell you this. Have you ever seen

1614
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 1: somebody going to federal prison more happy to do so?

1615
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: Like he's just hey, you know what.

1616
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 10: I was a dumb ass, but I was thinking about this, right, so, Glenn,

1617
01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 10: at least Big Baby Davis got to experience some of

1618
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 10: the riches, right, Miss Uhara lost all that money and

1619
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 10: it's still going to jail.

1620
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: That's gotta be worse. That's gotta be worse. Coming up next,

1621
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: we'll go ahead and break down the Dallas Mavericks Oklahoma

1622
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 1: City Thunder series. We just had a game that finished,

1623
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:10,040
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1624
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,080
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1625
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1628
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:24,879
Speaker 1: should be. Well, Olden, things have turned in this Mavericks

1629
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: Thunder series as we pay to now, the Celtics on

1630
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: an eleven er run to start the third quarter. Good

1631
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 1: luck Cleveland, see if they're able to come back here

1632
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 1: on their home court. But speaking of on your home court,

1633
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks took care of the Oklahoma City Thunder

1634
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 1: one oh five to one on one earlier today. Where

1635
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: are you at with this series as it goes forward?

1636
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City the youngest team in the league.

1637
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they did something really special in the

1638
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 2: regular season, but again it's two different seasons.

1639
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,640
Speaker 1: Regular and that sounds like you're saying, she's got a

1640
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: great personality.

1641
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 2: She's got a great personality. I love the hall work,

1642
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: I love Dagnall and the culture he's creating, or rather

1643
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 2: Sam Presty. But I like everything about them. You know

1644
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that you know, they are in

1645
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: household names outside of Shay, but you know they making noise.

1646
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 2: But again, experience is key. It is key. I don't

1647
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: care what you think. If you have never been there,

1648
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: you don't know what to do, you don't know how

1649
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: to react, how to act, none of that. And Dallas,

1650
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,720
Speaker 2: you know, they have guys that have experienced, Kyrie being

1651
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: one of them, you know, and it's like he knows

1652
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 2: what that moment feels like and the rest of those

1653
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: guys on Okay, see, they don't. This is a new

1654
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: experience for them. So I like what the Dallas did,

1655
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: you know, getting home court and they held on to it.

1656
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 2: You know, they won the game that they needed to

1657
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: now to. You know, again, they're in the driver's seat

1658
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 2: right now. And I think the more win, the more

1659
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 2: pressure on OKC. Yeah, I think absolutely too.

1660
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 1: And when you look at Dallas, you have Luca who's

1661
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: never won a championship in the NBA, won several on

1662
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: the other side of the pond, but also has shown

1663
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: to me, even despite not winning a championship that he

1664
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: is a proven playoff performer. When will you shake your head, no,

1665
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 1: you don't think so.

1666
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm agreeing with you because I was gonna

1667
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 2: blurt out. Look, it's been a pro since he was thirteen.

1668
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 1: Right, So while he had never necessarily reached the summit

1669
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: in the NBA, he's been playing professional basketball, like you said,

1670
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: the over half of his life at this point, and

1671
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 1: has shown all types of success even being a teenager

1672
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: against grown men. Now is a grown man against other

1673
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: grown men. And really what's crazy is he's kind of

1674
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 1: having the worst playoff performers that we've seen so far

1675
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: out of him, which goes to show you just how

1676
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: great the playoff performances prior to this have been. I mean,

1677
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,679
Speaker 1: you know, the Clippers have beaten them in previous series,

1678
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 1: but I mean, Luca had no issue getting to the basket,

1679
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: none of that. And when you pair him with the

1680
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: guy like Kyrie, who we said we have seen him

1681
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: perform at the highest level for over a decade, right,

1682
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 1: And honestly, the thing about Kyrie and you know, all

1683
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 1: his his Boston thing, Brooklyn thing, a lot of that

1684
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: self imposed, right, a lot of that self imposed, but

1685
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: he is. He seems to me to be at a

1686
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: level of peace and just oh he's just okay with

1687
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: everything that's going on in Dallas, and all he really

1688
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: wants to do is win. You don't see him, you know,

1689
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 1: crying when he doesn't get the ball, or when he

1690
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: does get the ball. You don't see him just jacking

1691
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: up shots because he was finally my turn to touch it.

1692
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: He's playing defense at the level though I feel like

1693
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: we haven't seen out of him maybe in his career now,

1694
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: at least at least since he left Cleveland. Uh, and

1695
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: a lot of that to me. Then you again, you

1696
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: played in the league. I've watched it. There's a big

1697
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: difference there. But to me, a lot of defense seems

1698
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 1: to be just want to like, do you want to

1699
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: get in this guy's.

1700
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: Way or not?

1701
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: Do you want to make it hard for him to

1702
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: score or not? Because guys in the NBA are going

1703
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: to get their numbers.

1704
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: Oh definitely. And that's a great point you made. And

1705
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 2: when I asked Mam about the LFA in the room,

1706
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,560
Speaker 2: you know, all of a sudden, Dallas looks like a

1707
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 2: defensive juggernaut. And so to me, you're absolutely right. It's

1708
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: do I want to play defense? Yes or no. Luca

1709
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 2: got a big steal today because he made a decision

1710
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 2: to play defense and go get the steal. That's all

1711
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 2: it is. It's wanting to do it. And that's what

1712
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 2: I'm loving about the Mavericks. Again. Credit has to go

1713
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: to Nico Harrison, you know, president of Basketball Ops, making

1714
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: those two trades for PJ. Washington and Daniel Gafford, Oh

1715
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 2: my goodness, and also bringing in Derek Lively insane moves.

1716
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 2: They really, you know, did wonders for that team, you know,

1717
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 2: PJ twenty seven point tonight and picking up the slack

1718
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 2: for Luca. Luca has a bad knee apparently. I don't

1719
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 2: know if he's really hurt or he's doing the soccer thing,

1720
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 2: so I don't know. But again, he's playing through it.

1721
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 2: He's still getting you to twenty two points. He's got

1722
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 2: he got what fifteen rebounds? Yeah, it was. I mean

1723
01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 2: it's fun to see to me. I think Jason Kidd,

1724
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,680
Speaker 2: if you ask him, you know, which would you like

1725
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 2: Luca to get forty points or Luca to get forty

1726
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 2: points and lose, or Luca to get twenty two points

1727
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 2: in win? He'll take the twenty two points and win,

1728
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,799
Speaker 2: of course. And so to me, that's a nice balance.

1729
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 2: When they have that kind of balance, it's gonna be

1730
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 2: hard to beat the Dallas Mavericks because you gotta remember, also,

1731
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: Luca can explode for fifty sixty, seventy points, just like

1732
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: Kyrie can.

1733
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: I think his knee is bothering him because one of

1734
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 1: the things that makes Luca one of the more dynamic

1735
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: players in the NBA, guy who got a lot of

1736
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: MVP votes this year, is his step back. Right, his

1737
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 1: step back is generally lethal when he goes to it. Today,

1738
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: another poor shooting day from three. He's been struggling from

1739
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: three all postseason. Would love to see him take less

1740
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 1: as he is going through this knee injury. But that's,

1741
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, I guess a little too far to ask.

1742
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: But when you got to get to me, you got

1743
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: two guys and Kyrie and Luca that can both go

1744
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: off for forty at any given moment, and hell, thirty

1745
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: and a half at any given moment. And Oklahoma City

1746
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: they really do remind me of a high school team,

1747
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: not just not just in the way that they didn't

1748
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 1: seriously though, not just in the way that they do

1749
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: their postgame interviews, but also in the way that they

1750
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of play. They are a running place for everybody.

1751
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 1: They play ten guys in the playoffs. That's unheard of.

1752
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 1: It's like everybody's got you know, you coach, like you

1753
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 1: some U sports. You know, everybody got to play a quarter.

1754
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 1: It's like that feels like the rules of Oklahoma City

1755
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: as well.

1756
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 2: But you're right, that's funny. And the flip side of

1757
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 2: that is you look at the New York Knicks. They're

1758
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 2: playing about six seven guys max, and so to me,

1759
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: it's weird. It's again it's you know, what's you know,

1760
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: what is it that you want to play? What style?

1761
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, so he's playing multiple guys and he's

1762
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 2: comfortable playing those guys, but some of those guys are

1763
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:00,600
Speaker 2: not used to these moments and that's the key, and

1764
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: so to me, that's gonna be the deciding factor. It's like,

1765
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 2: you know, but again, it bodes well for OKC moving

1766
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 2: forward in the future, because again, the only way to

1767
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 2: get experienced is to experience.

1768
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: It right, and obviously it's hard to do until you

1769
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: get to this moment. But I'll say this, if you

1770
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: had told me that PJ Washington was gonna score twenty

1771
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: seven points in a playoff game this year, I would

1772
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 1: have said, all right, hey, hey, we need to drug

1773
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: test over here all out three because somebody's lost their minds,

1774
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you know somebody said

1775
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 1: tell that to me. I'm going to the bar tender

1776
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 1: and say I would like what they're having because they're

1777
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: having a good time.

1778
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 2: And again, it's within the flow of everything. You know,

1779
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 2: he doesn't force shots. I'm wide open. Kyrie breaks the

1780
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 2: defense down, finds me in the corner. Boom, knock it down.

1781
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:50,320
Speaker 2: Luca breaks the defense down, Boom, finds me in the corner.

1782
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 2: He hustles, he plays defense, he guards multiple positions. The kid,

1783
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean, it's solid. The fact that he was traded

1784
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 2: to his hometown team is it's sane to me. He

1785
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 2: gets to play for his favorite team growing up, and

1786
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 2: he's performing. That's a great situation to be in.

1787
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 1: I just and I think it's a lesson to learn

1788
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the NBA that if you can

1789
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 1: take the opportunity to improve your team along the margins.

1790
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: This was not some big heralded trade when it happened.

1791
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 1: This was not one of those that a trade that

1792
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: led the a block of all the morning debate TV shows.

1793
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily guys like PJ. Washington and Daniel Gafford

1794
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,560
Speaker 1: will never may never make All Star Games. But what

1795
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: happened today, both of those guys major contributors. PJ. Washington

1796
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: playing forty minutes, Daniel Gafford playing twenty minutes, combining for

1797
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: thirty five points.

1798
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 2: That's hard to beat, it is, And they play and

1799
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,719
Speaker 2: Daniel gaffer is playing hurt. He hurt his shoulder today,

1800
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 2: he hurt his hand the game before. It's like, but

1801
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,600
Speaker 2: they they doing it, you know, I know they're so

1802
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 2: happy right now because the team they left, oh Man.

1803
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: So it's like it's night and day and they're giving

1804
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 2: it the awe. And I'm loving that about Dallas. You know,

1805
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 2: Jason's doing a great job right now. You know what's

1806
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 2: so funny about that, Jayson. Even the Dallas Mavers were like, hey,

1807
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: hold up, now we saw the Laker job come open.

1808
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 2: What did they do? Locked up? Jason Kidd?

1809
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: You see it all the time, more in college football

1810
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:31,599
Speaker 1: than anything else, when like like I freached up, Nick

1811
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: Shapin retires and then all of a sudden, everybody who's

1812
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 1: associated gets a raise. It's xcept for the guy who

1813
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: got the job right. So you know, you know, you

1814
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 1: see guys like Bootenholzer Boom, we gotta hurry up and

1815
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 1: sign him before the Lakers do. Jason Kidd, we got

1816
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 1: to go ahead and extend him. Part of the reason

1817
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 1: why everybody's looking at Tylu like Balmar, are you gonna

1818
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 1: offer from that contract for talking?

1819
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 2: So they're talking, they talking, They're gonna have to do

1820
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 2: something because that he was mentioned a couple of years

1821
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 2: before Darvin Ham and so it's like but and he

1822
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,880
Speaker 2: has a relationship with Lebron, So we'll see. It's gonna

1823
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 2: be fun.

1824
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 1: But on the thunder side of things, you just think

1825
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 1: it's just gonna ultimately come down to this is the

1826
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 1: youngest team that we have seen, not at I mean,

1827
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: advance to this point for sure, but like I think

1828
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: they're the youngest team to win a second round game.

1829
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something right now, I'm loving watching

1830
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 2: them play because they playing with a tenacity that's reserved

1831
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 2: for veteran teams. But again, the experience is gonna be key.

1832
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,479
Speaker 2: Here's what I really liked about them the most. They

1833
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 2: are the first team that I've seen since the eighties

1834
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,800
Speaker 2: to full court press. I haven't seen it since the

1835
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 2: days of when I was in Seattle with Bob Kloppenberg,

1836
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 2: the legendary defensive coach, where we were full court pressing.

1837
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 2: That thing's been out of the NBA for like twenty years,

1838
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:50,960
Speaker 2: nobody and nobody.

1839
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 1: And when you do see guys pressure full court generally

1840
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: is token pressure, right.

1841
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 2: It's token pressure. These guys are picking up ninety three

1842
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 2: feet from the basket and they're working you, turning you.

1843
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 2: That's when you know they've bought into it. Because I'm

1844
01:32:07,000 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 2: watching to kill Alexander Walker walk Jamal Murray and the

1845
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 2: end just turning him to where he's so frustrated he

1846
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 2: had to throw a damn heat on the damn court.

1847
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: Do you think you think he should have got suspended

1848
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: for that? Of course I think it's ridiculous.

1849
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 2: I don't care if your first time or your tenth time.

1850
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 2: The rule is the rule that should have been a suspension.

1851
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,439
Speaker 1: He had his first and second time in consecutive and

1852
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 1: back to back plays. It felt like, yeah, and so

1853
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:37,599
Speaker 1: to now an heath fact, yeah.

1854
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 2: And so those things you know that it sets a

1855
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 2: bad present. I get it. Oh, well, you know he's

1856
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:47,000
Speaker 2: not Draymond. He's but again, that's a disservice to Draymond.

1857
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 2: The act is the act. It's you get suspended one

1858
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 2: game because we've seen other people get suspended for the

1859
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 2: same act without having a track record, but you chose

1860
01:32:58,840 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 2: not to do it this time.

1861
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 1: So, and the thing that bugs me about it is

1862
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: if in fact Casep had landed on that or you

1863
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: name the timberwolf that had landed on that heat pack,

1864
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: and they had sprained their ankle, there's no question they

1865
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 1: would have suspended Jamal Murray.

1866
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,880
Speaker 2: That's why they got that damn rule about you know,

1867
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 2: getting in your space on a jump shot when Zaza

1868
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 2: Peculia got it underneath Kawhi Leonard And now it's a

1869
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,000
Speaker 2: league rule, right And so to me, it's the same thing.

1870
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 2: He threw the heater, and he threw something else I

1871
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 2: can't remember where the.

1872
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: Towel the towel. The towel didn't make it far enough,

1873
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: so then he doubled down with the heater.

1874
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 2: So and I like Jamal Murray, he's a good guy.

1875
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 2: But the rules are the rules, letter of the law.

1876
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 2: It's a one game suspension. So but it didn't happen,

1877
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 2: so lucky for the Nuggets.

1878
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Timberwolves and the Nuggets will go ahead

1879
01:33:55,400 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 1: and break down that series next. You know, we'll think

1880
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: you know, they had the Devert Nuggets slated for death

1881
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: after Game two. See what old It thinks about their

1882
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 1: chances in this seven game series. Coming up next, Martin

1883
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 1: Weis's Olden Polonies, Fox Sports Saturday. Martin Weis's Olden Polonies

1884
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,599
Speaker 1: coming to you live from the tire rack dot Com studios.

1885
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 1: You can get us on Twitter. I'm at Martin Weiss

1886
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:21,560
Speaker 1: Olden Is at Olden Polonie one, and of course you

1887
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 1: can get us at Fox Sports Radio. How about this

1888
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: our normal co host VJ burn and Husky chiming in,

1889
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: he said he's recovering and resting, so that's good to know.

1890
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:34,320
Speaker 1: Hopefully VJ gets well soon. The Boston Celtics take a

1891
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 1: fifteen point lead into the half eighty four to sixty nine.

1892
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 1: We'll see if the Cleveland Cavaliers can get right soon

1893
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 1: as they are at home right now, going to the

1894
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 1: fourth quarter of down fifteen. And like I told you before,

1895
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,560
Speaker 1: Boston either wins by fifteen or loses by twenty, So

1896
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: maybe just maybe Cleveland can make this a close game.

1897
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: But let's go ahead and dive into the series that

1898
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 1: we were just talking about a little bit off the air.

1899
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: Rudy go Beer missed Game two and it seemed like

1900
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 1: the Denver Nuggets were completely flummixed. He comes back in

1901
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,720
Speaker 1: game three, and I think the Denver Nugget showed a

1902
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 1: little bit of a championship was the maturity metal, whatever

1903
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:10,719
Speaker 1: you'd like to call it, in order to go ahead

1904
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: and get that win on the road and what was

1905
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:17,560
Speaker 1: pretty much a must win game there. Where do you

1906
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: see this series when it rotates back to Denver for Game.

1907
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 2: Five, Well, every game for the Nuggets is a must

1908
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 2: win when you go down two losing your two home games, right,

1909
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: And so I'm a firm believer again the experience factor.

1910
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 2: You know, these guys in Minnesota, they haven't really experienced

1911
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 2: this whole thing, and Denver's the defending champions, so I

1912
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 2: think they're gonna win the series. Eventually. They got you know,

1913
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 2: they at least get one game back in Denver, and

1914
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: so we're gonna go from there. But you know, they

1915
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 2: really showed theavid championship medal because they came out Jamal

1916
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 2: Murray set the tone, you know, Jokins being Jokings. So

1917
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,479
Speaker 2: it's like, I mean I expected them to win because

1918
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 2: I was like, there's no you can't afford to go

1919
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:07,720
Speaker 2: down all three. So it's like I expected them to win.

1920
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 2: And I think Mike Malone's done a great job, you know,

1921
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 2: you know, pushing the right buttons. And again they made shots.

1922
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:18,639
Speaker 2: You know, Jamal was a lot more aggressive and that's

1923
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 2: the key for them. And you know, they just took

1924
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 2: advantage of, you know, the mismatches that they had. They

1925
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 2: got a lot of switches and Jamal knew exactly what

1926
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 2: to do once he got the switches.

1927
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 1: So you're thinking that the Denver Nuggets rebound here and

1928
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 1: ended up winning this thing in seven games.

1929
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know if it'll go seven, it might

1930
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 2: go six.

1931
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 1: Oo.

1932
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they just again I keep saying it

1933
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 2: ad nauseum. Experience is critical if you know what you're

1934
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 2: doing because you've done it before. It's like driving, so

1935
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 2: you have a drive somewhere. At the first time, it

1936
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 2: seems like it takes forever, sure, but after that, it's

1937
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 2: like once you know where you're going, it's like boom there.

1938
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 2: It's similar to.

1939
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: That like why it takes so long to get there,

1940
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:04,640
Speaker 1: but the way back is like.

1941
01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 2: Exactly, And so to me, that's what it is with

1942
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 2: the with the Nema Nuggets, they're a very good team.

1943
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 2: And they got that big boy in that middle man

1944
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 2: that controls so much and it's hard to defend him.

1945
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 2: And they got some nice whistles too, that helps.

1946
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 1: I think I actually picked the Timberwolves in this series.

1947
01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 1: I picked them in six games, but I figured that

1948
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: it would be three to one coming back to Denver

1949
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: for Game five. But I would have had the game

1950
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 1: two in Game three reversed, right. I would have thought

1951
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:36,680
Speaker 1: that Denver would have went one in one on at

1952
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 1: home and then Minnesota one at home as well. That

1953
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,880
Speaker 1: obviously did not occur. But here's the thing that I

1954
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 1: thought was interesting because you, I know, you talk about

1955
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,639
Speaker 1: the experience, what about the experience of Tim Connolly, who

1956
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 1: basically built this Nuggets team, right, Because this Nuggets team

1957
01:37:50,800 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: is pretty home grown when you think about obviously they

1958
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: trade for Aaron Gordon, but drafted you want morey, drafted

1959
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: Michael Porter Jr. Drafted Nikola Jokics, right, and and and

1960
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: improved along the march. It's kind of similar to what

1961
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 1: we were talking about the Maverick. Surely they improved along

1962
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: the margins with some of their pickups. They lose a

1963
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 1: guy like Bruce Brown, who played a huge role in

1964
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:11,839
Speaker 1: their championship run even though off the bedg sometimes starting,

1965
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 1: but was an anti Leary player to to Murray and Jokic.

1966
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 1: But Tim Connolly built that team in Denver, then goes

1967
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: to Minnesota and what it seems like to me, and

1968
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 1: again I told you this earlier off the year you

1969
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 1: actually talked to some of these people. I'm just giving

1970
01:38:25,680 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: my best guess, right, you know, but I think that

1971
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 1: he saw I built the juggernaut in Denver and then

1972
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: went to Minnesota and said, all right, how do you

1973
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: beat that Denver team? And then, very much like we

1974
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 1: saw the Bills and the Chiefs, Bills knocked the Chiefs

1975
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: out of I mean, I'm sorry, Chiefs knocked the Bills

1976
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,719
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs a few times. Buffalo then starts

1977
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: to arrange their team in such a way that they

1978
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: think it'll be the best to defend against Patrick Mahomes

1979
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:50,320
Speaker 1: in Kansas City. Well, the difference is that Timberwolves got

1980
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: knocked out by the Nuggies last year. But they were

1981
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:55,599
Speaker 1: missing Jaden McDaniels and Nas Reed was hurt. Now Nas

1982
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 1: read the sixth minute of the year. Jaden McDaniels had

1983
01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: twenty five points of the playoff game earlier this year.

1984
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: He's obviously playing at a high level right now too,

1985
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,519
Speaker 1: especially defensively. You don't put any do you put any

1986
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: stock into that a little bit?

1987
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,519
Speaker 2: And the reason why I say that is this. You

1988
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 2: can draft these guys like a Yokic, but you got

1989
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 2: them in the second round. That's that's work to become

1990
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 2: a three time MVP. That was hard work. Nobody saw

1991
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:26,639
Speaker 2: that coming. Nobody. No, you can draft a Michael Porter,

1992
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 2: but they have to put the work in. They have

1993
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:33,040
Speaker 2: to evolve and work on their games. And so yeah,

1994
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:35,760
Speaker 2: so he has kind of a blueprint of grabbing guys,

1995
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 2: which is fine, But if these players don't put the

1996
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,439
Speaker 2: work and effort in, then it doesn't matter who you

1997
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:43,800
Speaker 2: draft who you pick. So to me, you know, yeah,

1998
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 2: Tim Conny, he's a hell of a GM. But at

1999
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 2: the same time, the players have to perform too. And

2000
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:55,120
Speaker 2: you mentioned the injuries. You know, last year was different.

2001
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 2: You Nas didn't play, and so it's like, now you

2002
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 2: got these guys everybody much is at full full speed.

2003
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 2: But you know, we're gonna see, We're gonna see what

2004
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 2: happens again, the deciding factor is gonna end up being experience,

2005
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,280
Speaker 2: because all things being equal, you know, yeah, you can

2006
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 2: have a little bit more athleticism, but yo, kids, he

2007
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 2: might be one of the smartest players I've ever seen. Yeah,

2008
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:28,760
Speaker 2: you know, just because he plays within himself. You know,

2009
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 2: he just does that. If nothing else, he just stays

2010
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 2: with And that's one of the reasons why they lost

2011
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 2: Game one. I thought also was the fact that they

2012
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 2: they assumed that they could just run their offense and

2013
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,280
Speaker 2: that the Timberwolves weren't gonna be there, and they forgot

2014
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 2: about the athleticism and the length passes that normally get

2015
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 2: through shorter arm guys. Right, it wasn't getting through with

2016
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 2: longer arm guys.

2017
01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:54,719
Speaker 1: And I mean, you saw the viral clip of Jabal

2018
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 1: Murray trying to bring the ball up the court being

2019
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,280
Speaker 1: double teamed, and it's just was like, man, he had

2020
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 1: nowhere to go. My man was in Alcatraz, it looked like.

2021
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: And I think that probably probably spilled over the game too.

2022
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 1: And then you know that's where you end up seeing

2023
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:11,240
Speaker 1: guys throwing things because it's like, you know, there's a

2024
01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: little physical in that series. But I do hope that

2025
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 1: the referees kind of allow it to be physical, because

2026
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 1: I mean, it's playoff basketball.

2027
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,960
Speaker 2: Ain't know what it is now. I think that's why

2028
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:25,040
Speaker 2: I said it was a shock to Denver's system, and

2029
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 2: I think they figured it out in Game three and

2030
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 2: that's why they played the way they did and got

2031
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 2: the win, and it was a blowout win. And I

2032
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:36,080
Speaker 2: think Game four, Denver will win, but I don't think

2033
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 2: he'll be a blowout. I think he'll be a lot closer.

2034
01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:41,840
Speaker 1: Finally, Anthony Edwards said at his locker post game, I'm

2035
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:44,800
Speaker 1: paraphrasing here, but basically, you know, this team goes as

2036
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 1: I go. And I didn't come out and wasn't aggressive

2037
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,639
Speaker 1: in Game three, and they'll say that he'll be ready

2038
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:52,120
Speaker 1: for Sunday. I don't think that the Nuggets have anybody

2039
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 1: that can stay in front of him if he's really

2040
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 1: locked in on his game.

2041
01:41:54,920 --> 01:42:00,280
Speaker 2: Nope, they don't. KCP can try all he wants. No,

2042
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 2: this dude is him.

2043
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's what, he's the goods.

2044
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 2: He's him. I mean, you watch him play. Everything about

2045
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 2: him spells MVP, superstar, you know, whatever terminology you want.

2046
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 2: He's that guy inside outside athletics, jumps out the gym

2047
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 2: and he wants to play defense.

2048
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 1: That was the last thing was to say that one

2049
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: of the better two way players in the league. And

2050
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 1: mentality wise for me, Anthony Ewre just top of the board.

2051
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 1: To be as young as he is and to be

2052
01:42:33,240 --> 01:42:35,960
Speaker 1: as locked in as he is, like I mean, you've

2053
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 1: got to have a special level of cachet to be

2054
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 1: able to address another top pick and Carl, the town's

2055
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,880
Speaker 1: are saying, look, stopffing filing. And you know he said

2056
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 1: it to him a hundred times in public because he

2057
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: had no problem saying it to him at the press conference,

2058
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 1: was sitting right next to Hums that we need you

2059
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 1: stop filing.

2060
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 2: And you know what I like about him? Also, what's

2061
01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 2: that he did his homework, you know, And I say

2062
01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 2: that to say this, he knew about the whole Amy

2063
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 2: Butler's situation with kat you know how he was, and

2064
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,439
Speaker 2: he came in It's like, Yo, this is my team,

2065
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,560
Speaker 2: but yet you guys are my teammates. So it's like

2066
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 2: he has that confidence to say this is my team,

2067
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 2: but it's your time, needs you got yeah, and I

2068
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 2: need you, right, But he knows that Kat's not that

2069
01:43:20,120 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 2: guy like that from what Jimmy Butler had exposed, right,

2070
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 2: And so it's like he's like, I have to take

2071
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 2: a leadership role. I know I'm only twenty two, but

2072
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 2: I'm taking a leadership role because my guys need me

2073
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 2: to be this guy, right, and I love that about him.

2074
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and kick it over to Kevin. Wired

2075
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:40,519
Speaker 1: for what's trending in the world of sports, Cleveland trying

2076
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 1: to make it close. Kevin, what's going on?

2077
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 7: Made it a single digit deficit now, although the caval

2078
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 7: or excuse me, the Celtics have just scored, so it's

2079
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 7: now an eleven point game once again. The Celtics leading

2080
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,080
Speaker 7: the Cavaliers eighty six to seventy five and ten minutes

2081
01:43:54,160 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 7: to go in the fourth quarter, although Cleveland, I don't know,

2082
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 7: they just missed a shot, so it's still in the

2083
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:02,439
Speaker 7: eleven point game. Lay up, no good, the Celtics going

2084
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 7: back with it. So eighty six seventy five under ten

2085
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 7: minutes ago in the fourth quarter. Jason Tam twenty nine

2086
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 7: points so far it's send a twenty shooting Drew Holiday

2087
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,680
Speaker 7: eighteen points, Jalen Brown has twenty points, and for the

2088
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 7: Cavaliers it's been two guys and that's really been in

2089
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:20,960
Speaker 7: Donovan Mitchell thirty points, Evan Mobley with fifteen points, so

2090
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 7: they are a combined at seventeen of twenty eight shooting.

2091
01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:29,360
Speaker 1: The rest of the team is just twelve of forty one.

2092
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 7: The series is tied at one game apiece, so of

2093
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,719
Speaker 7: course this is a pivotal Game three, but the Celtics

2094
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 7: at this point looking like they're gonna go up two

2095
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 7: games to one, but Cleveland is still sticking around, so

2096
01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 7: we'll see if they can hang on and maybe claw

2097
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 7: their way back. Mavericks and Thunder earlier today, Game three

2098
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,040
Speaker 7: of that series. Dallas wins it one oh five, one

2099
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 7: to one to take a two games to one lead.

2100
01:44:53,000 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 7: It was the big three for Dallas, Luka Dancic, Kyrie

2101
01:44:55,600 --> 01:44:58,679
Speaker 7: Irving PJ Washington combining for seventy one points.

2102
01:44:58,760 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 1: PJ.

2103
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:02,679
Speaker 7: Washington had twenty seven off of eleven to twenty three shooting,

2104
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 7: Kyrie and Luca each with twenty two points. Luca also

2105
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,200
Speaker 7: with fifteen rebounds and five assists. A great game as

2106
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 7: Dallas now in the driver's seat in this series. NHL

2107
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 7: Stanley Cup playoffs. Hurricanes avoid elimination beating the Rangers four

2108
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 7: to three, So it's now with three games to one

2109
01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 7: lead afore the Rangers, as the Hurricanes sing if they

2110
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 7: can claw back and make this one a series. They're

2111
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 7: in the first period in at Denver. Avalanche and Stars

2112
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 7: are currently scoreless. Major League Baseball action. We have several

2113
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:39,599
Speaker 7: games in action right now, Dodgers and Padres. It's five

2114
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 7: to nothing in favor of Los Angeles. They are in

2115
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 7: at the top of the seventh inning. LA's got two

2116
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Speaker 7: runners on and nobody out, so they're threatening to really

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Speaker 7: blow this game wide open. Rookie Betts is at the

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Speaker 7: play Rockies and Rangers. It is Colorado leading this one

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Speaker 7: at six to three. They're in the bottom of the

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Speaker 7: seventh inning in Denver. Angels and Royals. In Anaheim, the

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Speaker 7: Angels lead this one five to one. They're in the

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Speaker 7: fourth inning. Athletics and Mariners. The Aes two to one

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Speaker 7: lead in Seattle, and everything else in the league has

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Speaker 7: gone final. Blue Jay's over the Twins ten eight, Orioles

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Speaker 7: beat the Diamondbacks five four, Pirates top the Cups ten

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Speaker 7: to nine, Braves over the Mets four to one. Ray's

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Speaker 7: top the Yankees seven to two, Philly's over the Marlins

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Speaker 7: eight to three, Red Sox edge the Nationals four to two.

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Speaker 7: Tigers blew out the Astros eight to two, White Sox

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Speaker 7: over the Guardians three one. Giants beat the Reds five

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Speaker 7: to one. In the Brewers hold off the Cardinals five

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Speaker 7: to three.

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Speaker 1: Back to you guys, thanks, Kevin, Without further ado, let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead, get our guy in here. MLB bro content

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Speaker 1: reporter DeMar j Morris Demarje, how the hell.

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Speaker 4: Are you, my friend, Martin Fellers.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got Olden Polonies in for the big Vanilla funny.

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Speaker 1: But first I want to ask you about a guy.

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Speaker 1: This is Olden's debut from working with me, Paul Skain's

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Speaker 1: debut on the Mound today. What did you see? What

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Speaker 1: were you impressed with?

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Speaker 3: I liked what I saw?

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 11: This Uh, he has the right mindset, he has the work.

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Speaker 11: Etchquar him in his interviews where he talked about when

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Speaker 11: he was in the miners, he was just he was

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Speaker 11: learning how to read batters and learning how to switch

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Speaker 11: up pitches. So there's gonna be some growing pain series

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Speaker 11: a Ricky. You know, of course it's going to happen.

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Speaker 11: But from what I saw today, six hits, three runs,

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Speaker 11: two walks, seven k's. I mean, dude hit one hundred

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Speaker 11: miles per hour seventeen different times. So he definitely has

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Speaker 11: the stuff to pitch at this level. And then he

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Speaker 11: killed it in the miners too. He did his thing

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Speaker 11: in the miners in his seven starts. His breaking balls

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01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 11: were a little shaky today. Oh no, I'm sorry. His

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01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 11: breaking balls were on point. His breaking balls were on

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Speaker 11: point today. He struggled a little bit with his fastball location.

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Speaker 11: Nothing crazy, nothing you know, to have you alarm or anything.

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Speaker 11: But he did get in the bases loaded Jym in

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Speaker 11: the second, stay calm, stay composed, he got out of it,

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01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:44,760
Speaker 11: didn't give up any runs. So I really liked seeing that.

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Speaker 11: But yeah, paus games is legit. I'm excited to see

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Speaker 11: him pitch.

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Speaker 1: Let's go from the Pirates to the team directly below

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Speaker 1: them in the NL Central, the Red Since that he

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Speaker 1: reads this last year was the youth movement in baseball,

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Speaker 1: the Reds and it were kind of primed at least

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, to make a run.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 1: What's going on with the Red seven games back?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think they're catching a lot of people by

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01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 11: surprise this season. You know, team that young and that talented,

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Speaker 11: you just expect them to build off of the success

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01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 11: they had the previous season, carried it into this season,

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Speaker 11: and they just haven't been able to find consistency at all.

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Speaker 5: I mean, TJ.

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Speaker 11: Frido's back, so that's a huge offensive spark. You know,

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Speaker 11: he's always a threat to steal some bags and you

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01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:22,920
Speaker 11: know if he could get on base, so that should

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Speaker 11: help get the offense going a little bit. But they've

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Speaker 11: just been struggling to score, man, I mean, look at

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Speaker 11: their offense or lasting hits last and batting average. I

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Speaker 11: know some people are calling for David Bell's job.

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Speaker 5: I can see it.

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Speaker 11: I mean it's already his sixth season. You look at

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Speaker 11: the last four years. They've been alternating losing winning records

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01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 11: twenty twenty losing records, winning record, losing winning record or

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Speaker 11: winning records. So I can see why people are calling

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Speaker 11: for David Bell's job. But they got to turn it

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Speaker 11: around quick man, because that division stuff.

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Speaker 2: Mr Jiah Olden here, I know there's an old saying,

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Speaker 2: if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying. What's going on

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Speaker 2: with the Astros right now?

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Speaker 11: I've been saying it, Olden. I think the biggest thing

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Speaker 11: is just is Dusty Baker not being there. I obviously

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01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:07,639
Speaker 11: managing only goes so far, but I mean, I've always

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01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 11: talked about culture. I've said that multiple times on this show.

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Speaker 11: I'm big on culture, especially when you're talking about a

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01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 11: winning program, a winning franchise. And it's just different without

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Speaker 11: Dusty there. You know, you go about things differently, prepared, different,

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01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:21,080
Speaker 11: you know, just how he gets through to the players

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01:49:21,200 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 11: is different. Not saying this manager doesn't have connection.

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01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:24,639
Speaker 3: With his players.

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Speaker 11: He obviously does, but it's just different man without Dusty there.

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01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 11: And obviously I'm not in the ball club, so I

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01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:31,559
Speaker 11: can't put my finger on it. But that's the main

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01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,920
Speaker 11: difference with his team is Dusty was there last year.

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Speaker 1: He's not there this year, and you see him struggling

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Speaker 1: from a team that just made a World Series run

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01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 1: not too long ago with the Houston Astros. Again, as

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Speaker 1: Olden said, if you're not cheating, you're not trying. They well,

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01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:47,479
Speaker 1: we're cheating. But do you think the Phillies this year

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Speaker 1: can make a run at the World Series.

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Speaker 11: I'm liking what I'm seeing from the Phillies right now. Man,

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01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:53,880
Speaker 11: I really am. I mean they've been a top team

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01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:55,320
Speaker 11: the last couple of years, so I mean it's not

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01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 11: a surprise, but just the fact that they're able to

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01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 11: sustain it. You know, you don't see no drop off

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01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 11: within the right back at it again this year. Top

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01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:04,559
Speaker 11: five offense. You know, they rank in the top five

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01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 11: in multiple categories runs, hits, home runs, RBIs.

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Speaker 2: You look at it.

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Speaker 11: Their offenses right there. Pitching is loaded.

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Speaker 3: I mean when you're led by.

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Speaker 11: Zach Willer and Aaron Nola, I mean that's a dangerous

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01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,839
Speaker 11: one to combo. And I'm gonna say, man, Ranger Swarez

2228
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 11: is so underrated. He doesn't get talked about enough. I

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01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 11: love watching that guy pitch. Great third arm to have

2230
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,080
Speaker 11: in that rotation. And yeah, they could definitely make it back.

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01:50:25,120 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 11: They just made it, like you said, two seasons ago

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01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 11: when they lost to the Astros, So they definitely got

2233
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:30,320
Speaker 11: what it takes to make it back.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I need to know this. You know, I'm

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01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:35,560
Speaker 2: a big Yankees fan, of course, and you know I

2236
01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 2: know with you know, in second right now behind the Orioles.

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Speaker 2: So you know, who's been the surprise early in the season.

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Speaker 11: To you.

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01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:46,839
Speaker 3: Surprise?

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Speaker 11: I think the easy answer would be Soto, that's the

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01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:50,639
Speaker 11: easy answer.

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01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 2: Well, no, not the Yankees. Just period in baseball? What

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01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 2: team has been the surprise?

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01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,760
Speaker 11: Oh, you're saying team all that document player on the

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01:50:57,840 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 11: Yankees team that's been.

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Speaker 3: A surprise so far in baseball?

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna have to say Oakland. Oakland A's are playing

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01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 11: good ball. I was late, you know, I didn't expect

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01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:09,839
Speaker 11: this coming into the season. I know they're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 11: They're not gonna win any team.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, they're going somewhere.

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01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 11: No, yeah, you're right about about that. But yeah, I

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01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 11: would say Oakland as of right now, just because they

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01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:20,879
Speaker 11: are playing some good.

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Speaker 3: Good ball.

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Speaker 11: I think they've they're surprising some people right now. I

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01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 11: wouldn't say that's the biggest surprise, but they're one of

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01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 11: them that I could think off top. Uh.

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01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 1: You know, DeMar your your Angels right now with a

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Speaker 1: four run lead at the end of the fourth inning,

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Speaker 1: so we'll see how they can potentially try to blow that.

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01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, but the team they're playing, the Kansas

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01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: City Royals, that would be kind of my surprise. Right now.

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01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:45,360
Speaker 1: They are a top the Al Central Tide with the

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01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 1: Cleveland Guardians, do you expect Kansas City to keep this

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01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 1: thing rolling right now?

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Speaker 11: They were one of my teams coming into this season,

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01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:54,960
Speaker 11: just one of those teams to watch out for. Me

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01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 11: and my god Julian were talking. He covers the Yankees

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01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 11: out of New York, but me and him were talking

2271
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 11: and we were all over the time is in the

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01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,759
Speaker 11: Royals coming into this season. I just love the veterans.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:04,760
Speaker 11: They's got a nice group of veterans, a nice mix

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01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 11: of young players, and yeah, they're just playing really good

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01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:09,679
Speaker 11: right now. They got good solid pitching, good solid bats.

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01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 11: You obviously got a superstar and Bobby with And this

2278
01:52:12,479 --> 01:52:14,160
Speaker 11: is me and Pops right here. That's my pop team

2279
01:52:14,200 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 11: is the Royal. He's a world in a Braves fan.

2280
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 11: So it's me versus popsa in this series right here,

2281
01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:20,760
Speaker 11: it looks like the Worlds are probably gonna take it. Yeah,

2282
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 11: we'll win the day, but Worlds are probably in the series.

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01:52:23,320 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 11: But no, Rose of Balton, I liked him. I think

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01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:26,160
Speaker 11: they could keep it up and make a run at

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01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 11: the division, or at least make it competitive.

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01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:30,920
Speaker 2: And so I'm going to jump right back in because

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01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 2: since you started talking about Juan Subto, Uh, yeah, you

2288
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 2: can talk about my Yankees right now. So besides him,

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01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 2: you know, whatever you seen from my Yankees.

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01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:43,240
Speaker 11: That you liked, h Carbrera, I was Walter Carbrera. He's

2291
01:52:43,240 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 11: been holding it down. I like what I've seen from him. Obviously,

2292
01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,640
Speaker 11: we got to get some pitching healthy, so once we

2293
01:52:48,680 --> 01:52:50,879
Speaker 11: could get Garrett coleback on the mound. But the pitching's

2294
01:52:50,880 --> 01:52:51,720
Speaker 11: been holding it down.

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01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 2: I like that weed. I like that.

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01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 11: I just I don't know, I'm just a happy even

2297
01:52:59,240 --> 01:52:59,960
Speaker 11: if it's not my team.

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01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,600
Speaker 2: I just know, but I like that.

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01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 11: But no, yeah, they're a you know, I really like

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01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 11: Walter corbre Bothy. He's shown some flashes. I think he's

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01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:10,880
Speaker 11: still you know, he still has some good ball to

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01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 11: play this season. He's been a little up and down,

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01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,160
Speaker 11: but yeah, I would say Carbrera so far he's been huge.

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01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh right quick. Did you see that home run

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01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 2: that Judge hit?

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01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,280
Speaker 11: Oh my god? And then and then the Yankees fan

2307
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 11: had the nerves to boom a couple of weeks ago.

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01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,599
Speaker 11: Come on, you guys, this is Aaron Judge we're talking about.

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01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 11: But the Druggers aren't gonna last. But yeah, that home

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01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 11: runner is ridiculous. Vintage Aaron Judge.

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01:53:32,439 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 2: But what was so funny was when they put the

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01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,719
Speaker 2: camera on Soto, he was in awe.

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01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:41,599
Speaker 11: And that's dope, right, You see a hitter as good

2314
01:53:41,640 --> 01:53:44,320
Speaker 11: as Soto for him to be in awe of Judge, Like,

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01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,559
Speaker 11: I love seeing stuff like that. How pros can still

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01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 11: amaze other pros and that that's pretty dope.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, we got one content pro on this broadcast,

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Speaker 1: and that's the mar J Morris MLB bro Content Report.

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Speaker 1: To check out all his stuff at MARS one. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry ninety one on social media to Mars thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining the show, my friend. Appreciate you coming on

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01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:05,600
Speaker 1: for your insight and intelligence.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 11: Appreciate you guys for having me and Olden, great debuty man.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, We're Martin Olden coming to you

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Speaker 1: and you'll see this show posted right after we get

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Speaker 1: off of the air. It's a franchise that hasn't won

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Speaker 1: much in the last fifty or so years, but has

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Speaker 1: a ton of legends. Where does this current guy rank

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Speaker 1: in terms of all the rest of them? We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that next. Martin Wie's Olden Polonies, Fox Sports Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Martin Wise Olden Polonies coming to you a lot from

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Speaker 1: the Tirack dot Com studios. Arnie Spanier and Jason Martin

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01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the hour. But we're

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01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: here for just a little while longer. It seems like

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01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 1: we'll be here longer than the Cleveland Cavaliers will in

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01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 1: this series. As there about to lose at home one

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01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 1: oh four to ninety one. The margin right now, one minute,

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01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: nineteen seconds left. Max Shrew's complaining to the ref, Bro,

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01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 1: the ref's not gonna give you thirteen points? What do

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01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 1: you want? As the Cleveland Cavaliers fans head towards the

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01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 1: exits again, what I tell you, man, they either win

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01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:16,960
Speaker 1: by fifteen or lose by twenty five. Is the Boston Celtics.

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01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 2: Pretty much learned how to put the damn mic on.

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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they had to have a bounce back game,

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01:55:29,000 --> 01:55:30,839
Speaker 2: and so that's what I'm saying, I mean, the record

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01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,160
Speaker 2: does speak for itself. You know, It's like again, I

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01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 2: do say, you know, I just don't know which one's

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01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,440
Speaker 2: gonna show up. Is it gonna be Jeck or is

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01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 2: it gonna be Hide And so to me tonight, what

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Speaker 2: I liked about the Celtics is the fact that Jason

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01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 2: Tatum did not settle for three pointers. He attacked the

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01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:48,840
Speaker 2: rim and that was key. Jail and Brown did the

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01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 2: same thing. And so to me, those you gotta play

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01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:54,320
Speaker 2: to your strengths. Yeah, I know that you want they

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01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:57,680
Speaker 2: want to shoot volume threes, but you gotta mix it up.

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01:55:57,760 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the Warriors, the greatest shooting team ever went

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01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 2: to the hole, right, you know, you got to mix

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Speaker 2: it up.

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Speaker 1: So we were talking off air just now about the

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Speaker 1: NFL and the way that you know, every game seems

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01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 1: to be a sellout. Well, it also seems to be

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Speaker 1: true for the New York Knicks, not only at Madison

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01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: Square Garden, but you know, you can go down to Philadelphia,

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01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:22,880
Speaker 1: They'll be Knicks fans there. And when they were indian

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01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 1: and Indianapolis the last game they go up, there were

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Speaker 1: Knicks fans there. You could hear the cheers whenever something

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01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 1: would happen for the Knicks, even though they end up

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01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 1: losing that game. And I'm wondering, old and you've been

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01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: around the game much longer than I have been, I'm wondering,

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01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 1: where does Jalen Brunton right now? Where does he kind

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Speaker 1: of rank in Knicks playoff? Lord? Because you see all

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01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 1: these old heads coming out and it's very much like

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Speaker 1: a high school reunion for the Knicks. And Jalen Brunson

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01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 1: just continued to score forty points in a row. And

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Speaker 1: if you hadn't gotten hurt in Game three, I think

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01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:54,960
Speaker 1: he would have had forty in that one probably.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna be as crazy and demented like

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01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 2: as Charles Oakley talking about he he's the greatest Nick ever.

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01:57:01,720 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 2: Come on, stop, that's what I'm saying. We said a

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01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 2: lot of stupid stuff on air man a lot of people.

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01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 2: It's like ridiculous. Come on, the man is having a

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01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 2: great year. Let's appreciate the year. A guy like Patrick

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01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:20,920
Speaker 2: Ewing is legendary in New York. You cannot put Jellen

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01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 2: Brunson ahead of him. Willis Reed legendary, Bill Bradley legendary,

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01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 2: wal Fraser legendary, Earl Monroe didn't even play that many

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01:57:28,120 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 2: years legendary. Stop all right, keep keep it real and

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01:57:32,680 --> 01:57:35,280
Speaker 2: so but I mean, I'm enjoying what he's doing right now,

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01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 2: and that's all I want to do. I want to

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01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:40,720
Speaker 2: just appreciate him for what he's doing right now. You know,

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01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:44,440
Speaker 2: in law, we have to wait and see does he

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Speaker 2: play multiple years in New York. We don't know right

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01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 2: We don't know what's gonna happen. Is he gonna have

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01:57:50,680 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 2: another great year next year, two years from now, three

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01:57:53,480 --> 01:57:56,920
Speaker 2: years from we don't know. So let's appreciate right now.

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01:57:57,080 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 2: But I'm really enjoying, like I say, you know earlier,

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01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:03,000
Speaker 2: I mean orange and Blue Skies and Spike Lee, let's say.

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01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 2: And it's like, it's amazing the Knicks of the only

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01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:12,040
Speaker 2: team in the NBA that is a Marckie team that

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01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:15,400
Speaker 2: doesn't win championships. True, it only wants, but it's like

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01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,800
Speaker 2: they're great for TV, they're great for the game, and

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01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 2: so to me to see them having success right now

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01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,320
Speaker 2: is huge, and I'm sure Adam Silva is very excited.

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Speaker 1: I can't lie. I'm swept up in it now. At

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01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:30,839
Speaker 1: this point, I don't even like New York.

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01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:33,920
Speaker 2: When hey, watch that. Now, I'm a New Yorker.

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01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to insult, but I just say this.

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01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: I went to visit my sister who was living in

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01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:39,840
Speaker 1: Brooklyn at the time, and I had to go down

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01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 1: seven flights of stairs in the middle of the summer

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01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 1: to try to take a train to go somewhere else.

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01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm sweating my ass off. That's shit on there, and

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01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is ridiculous. How does anybody keep an

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Speaker 1: outfit together down here?

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01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 2: Like the New York kind of thing?

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01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:54,640
Speaker 1: I was losing all composed. I'm like, give me la

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01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 1: with my climate controlled car and traffic sign me up.

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Speaker 1: That's right?

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01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 6: Is that?

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01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:01,240
Speaker 11: This?

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01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 7: So?

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01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 1: Like? This stinks And I'm not just talking about the

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01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 1: size of that rat by my foots rats. The rats

2431
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:11,160
Speaker 1: were looking at me like, what the hell are you

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01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 1: doing here?

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01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 7: Pal?

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01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 1: Should I see rats?

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01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 2: Hey man? I grew up with them, suckers for them,

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01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:18,880
Speaker 2: thanks for I.

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01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:22,960
Speaker 1: Mean, look, if I'm from I'm from the Louisiana I

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01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 1: know people that want to go down there in them

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01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:25,800
Speaker 1: subway tunnels and hunt them rats.

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01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 2: I sure.

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01:59:28,480 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 1: Go ahead try to make that happen. But no, I

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01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:34,320
Speaker 1: am I'm fully rooting for the Knicks at this point

2443
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:36,520
Speaker 1: just for the story. I think it's an awesome story

2444
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:39,800
Speaker 1: that the old school team, old school coach. They play

2445
01:59:39,880 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 1: a million minutes a game. They set hard screens, they

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01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:45,760
Speaker 1: rebounded basketball, and I just I just love the way

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01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:46,320
Speaker 1: that they played.

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01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,240
Speaker 2: And the world's most famous arena.

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01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 1: What I guess maybe this is something, this is this

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01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 1: is my next project. I tell you, I kind of

2451
01:59:55,040 --> 01:59:57,040
Speaker 1: dive into stuff like that. I'm gonna find out just

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01:59:57,120 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 1: why Mattison Guere Garden is the world's.

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01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 2: Most famous around now you don't know.

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02:00:03,080 --> 02:00:05,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find out soon. I'm only thirty four, man,

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02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 1: so a lot of this stuff. I haven't seen square Garden,

2456
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 1: but it's round. It is confusing, to say the least.

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02:00:16,480 --> 02:00:18,400
Speaker 1: You know, you would think they'd have more corners in

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02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 1: a It is amazing.

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Speaker 2: It is amazing. Everybody looks forward to playing at the garden.

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Speaker 2: Everybody I noticed what they call it the mecca. Whoever

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Speaker 2: you are, that's the one game you pencil in because

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02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 2: everybody else has changed staples. You know, we'reent from form

2463
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:37,640
Speaker 2: to staples. We went from this and that, the Boston Garden.

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02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:40,520
Speaker 2: It's masters Scoot Garden, is it right now?

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Speaker 1: I tell you this this as a Michigan fans Selfishly,

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02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:46,480
Speaker 1: I am happy to see these Villanova Nicks going crazy

2467
02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:49,120
Speaker 1: because they if they had just gone crazy for the

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02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:51,640
Speaker 1: last time in the National Championship Game beating Michigan, and

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02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 1: I've been like, man, forget these guys like like Luke Hancock,

2470
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:58,040
Speaker 1: which no one ever remembers unless you're a Michigan Louisville fan.

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02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:01,600
Speaker 1: That guy can go to hell, all right? Coming up

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Speaker 1: back on Fox Sports Saturday, we had Arnie Spaniard, Jason Martin.

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Speaker 1: This was Martin White's olden polonies. We out