1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: With angela Ye and what an honor today to have 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: sister and Nancy here with us. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: First greetings, greetings, my sister, Thanks for having me here. 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for coming. It's a blessing to have you. 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: You know, honestly before called bomb Bomb the best dancehall 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: song ever, number one on the list. But there's a 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: documentary out called bomb Bomb The Story Assistant Nancy, and 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: we really got to get a lot more insight into 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: everything that you've done and how you got to where 11 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: you are today. Okay, So how does that feel for 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: you to have your story out there? 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: You know? It just it just works, hard work and 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: it pays off. That's all I can say. Just hard 15 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: work and it pays off for everything that you know 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: happens to assist a Nancy. You know, because I'm one 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: of the patient one. I have so much patient. I've 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: been waiting so long after doing so much work in 19 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 2: the industry, and waiting and still waiting too, because I 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: haven't yet done all of what I really set out 21 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: to accomplish, not everything I can say, but I'm still fighting. 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I do want to say, after over forty 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: years since you started it feels like even when people 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: are meeting you for the first time, your aura and 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: how much perhaps they. 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: Give you, you. 27 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: Know, that's amazing, and I think just a testament to 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: everything that you've accomplished that, you know, I think, like 29 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: you said, you're being patient. You're still waiting and getting 30 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: your just due. But I feel, like you said, there's 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: still more to come. 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 2: Of course they are. It never stopped. You know, you 33 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: can't just fight and then you stop. It's like you 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: never start fighting because there's tough. You know, it's tough 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: for you to accomplish, and you have just pulled through. Yeah, 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: of course I got I accomplished some already, but I 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: have more. You mean, is just it's big. Yeah, And 38 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: you know it's been to a lot, and you know 39 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: it's been to a lot, the music, the sampling, everything 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 2: has been to a lot. So I will never stop fight, 41 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: fighting for what's just mine. 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Don't you feel like that's also the theme of the 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: song to Bam Bam, Yeah, I said a theme. Yeah, 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: Like the theme of the song is still just kind 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: of like, look I'm here, I'm fighting. 46 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 2: That's what it is. It's an attack, that's what it is. 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: When I did it's nineteen eighty two, and that's what 48 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: it is today. It's an attack. Do you know that 49 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: I am coming? Just be weird. Give give them somewhere 50 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 2: because I'm old. There, I'm coming. That's it. 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: What made you decide to do a documentary? I want 52 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: to know how that even happened. 53 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 2: The documentary was not my idea, as I told me 54 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: to be people before I was working with an agent 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: and you know Montreal, just like I work with Gravy 56 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: from large job and he, you know he because he 57 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 2: loves me so much. And see when I perform what 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 2: you see the old people react to me. And he says, sistance, 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 2: you need to read some books. And tell him I 60 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: don't have time to write no damn book. So he said, 61 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: you know, you need to do a documentary. And the 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: thing I tell him at the time, I didn't. I 63 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: didn't have that. I don't know money to put out 64 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: not that in documentary, documentary, I'll get robbed so much 65 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: time and I'm still getting robbed. I ain't got no 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: money to put out documentary. He says, I know somebody 67 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: I can talk to for you. And he talked to 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: Alison Duke, who's a really nice lady from Hoya and 69 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: er Er he proposal to me, and you know everything 70 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: it was it was in my favor, and I said, 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: I like her, so I said, you know, I let 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: her do it because I trusted her and it was 73 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: worth my while, so I go ahead and do it. 74 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: And how that's it? 75 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: How hard is trust now? Because like you said, you've 76 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: been through a lot when it comes to this business, it's. 77 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: You know, trust comes with you, know you always They 78 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: told you that friendship is what you learn, not that 79 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: not what you gain. So if you, if you, if 80 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: you it's her and you hearn a friend because it's 81 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 2: what you do. Make a person your friend. You just 82 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: don't go out and look a friend. You have to 83 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: earn that the whole way you deal with me. It's 84 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: like family and relative, they're two different people. Your family 85 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: is how people treat you. Your relative's my blood, you understand, 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: So you know you have to learn. I guess all 87 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: people treat you. That's how you trust people. And there's 88 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: people I trust, of course, like my daughter of course, 89 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: you have to Shandy of course, and my brothers and sisters. Still, 90 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: you know, I really and I have friends that I 91 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 2: really trust. They know theirselves, people that work could. I 92 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: trust them. They can do anything with me with money, anything. 93 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: I tell them to go ahead and do it because 94 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: I really trust them and work with them a lot. 95 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: But not everybody you can do that with, you know, 96 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: so I just take my time to learn people. I 97 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: guess right. You know. 98 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: I love the footage, the actual footage of being able 99 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: to see you perform when you were first getting started 100 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: in the business. 101 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: How is that for you? Just kind of looking back 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: at some of these things I know you live through. 103 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: I don't think you see the first time perform You 104 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: have never. 105 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 3: Seen that, not the first time, but seeing that was sting. 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 2: That was by nineteen ninety. It was that before I 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: become a restafar and with my dread lucks. That's a 108 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: long time, that's what you're talking. Yeah, okay, yeah, but 109 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: it's it's naturally. And you see, if you were born 110 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: to do something, you're going to do it, whether you 111 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: practice it or anything. It just comes perfect to you. 112 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: And I think I was born like this. I was 113 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: born to do music. My father music, my mother, my 114 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: sisters and brothers. You know, my brother Brigadier Jerry, who 115 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 2: inspired and is my mentor and everything so I was 116 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: born like this, so it just comes easy. You don't 117 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: think you were born to be on the radio. No, yes, 118 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: you were, she wouldn't be here. 119 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 3: You're right, You're right now give up. You would give 120 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: up already. This has been a career. 121 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: You're right, because there's things that we've had a job 122 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: than having a career, of. 123 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: Course, because you were chosen to do it. You know, 124 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: I work in the bank for sixteen years, and I 125 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: know that wasn't what I was supposed to do because 126 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: I've been doing music since I was fifteen years old, 127 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: but it was something that I had to do at 128 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: the time, coming to a different country. But then I 129 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: realized that they don't make no sense because I don't 130 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: love doing it. This is what I really love. Yeah, 131 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: and it's music. So this is my calling, and whatever 132 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: you do, it's yours. 133 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: You know. 134 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: With the Assistant Nancy story, I remember reading and reporting 135 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: on because we never knew like the backstory of what 136 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: happened with the song. But I remember seeing the report 137 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: and actually putting it on the radio, talking about the 138 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: fact that you hadn't been getting money from the song. 139 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: It didn't even realize how much it had been sampled 140 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 1: not at all. 141 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, until later, until I came here. 142 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: I came, I came to I migrate. I've been coming 143 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: here from nineteen eighty, but I migrated, you know, through 144 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: my mom. I came to live here nineteen ninety six. 145 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: And it's just in those times, like I think, nineteen 146 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: ninety eight, I really SEEO a powerful song is and 147 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: what's what he's doing. And I didn't I didn't even know. 148 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: Some people do. Some people still don't know who I 149 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: am because Peace he passed me all the time playing 150 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: the song. And look, they don't even notice me. I 151 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: won't tell them because I'm not like that. I'm so 152 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 2: I'm my own a person. I don't care. I don't care, 153 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: but you know, at least you know I am getting there, 154 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: and at least I'm getting compensation, you know, some ways 155 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: of what you know the world that I did. But 156 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it never stopped. 157 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, daughter actually was watching Belly and so and so 158 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: that song and Belly is like, I think that song 159 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: is the one song that's the representative of the whole movie. 160 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: Whole movie. Yeah, I know, I watch it too. I 161 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: watch it all the time. I did it. I tape 162 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: it on on VCR because I watched it. I see 163 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: it there that day, and then I come back and 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: see it when it was playing another day. So I 165 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: tape it from the beginning to the to the hand 166 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: that's on the v said that we used to use 167 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: video in your home, because I still have it on VCR. 168 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: That's that's Meley. 169 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting to me that, like you said, 170 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: you didn't realize how big Bam Bam was that you 171 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: came here, but you had songs that. 172 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: Were big in Jamaica. 173 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: It's one too, yeah, one to Transport Connection. Those two 174 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: were big. Yes, the two were big, but they never played. 175 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: They never I never hear Bambam. 176 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: That's so interesting because I know, like stuff always gets 177 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: big in Jamaica and. 178 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: Then here, oh no, not Bam Bam one towards the 179 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: song that's big down there and Transport Connection. But after 180 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: I get to you, I see the you know, the 181 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: movements of Bambam. I didn't even know that it was 182 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: because I never played there, right, never played. 183 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: And it's the most sample song yeah and read time 184 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: dancehall period, Yes it is. How much do you know 185 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: how many times it's been sampled? 186 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: You know? I sub content because it's but it's it's 187 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of time, and it's and 188 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: it's it's it's only gets better because people use it 189 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: every day. And that's true. You get I get to 190 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: like people call the text, they email and asked me 191 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: to use it all the time. Some people I do 192 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: say yes and because and some people I said no 193 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 2: because I can't do it on my own. It's not 194 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 2: it does not belong only to me, because you know, 195 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: you have mister Riley and mister Riley Estate, and you 196 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: know they have their publishing and everything. So I can't 197 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 2: tell a person to use it. I have to consult 198 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: the other party to give them authorization. But most people 199 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: they use, they get it to use as long as 200 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: it do it for a while. 201 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: But what is great is that people have been actually 202 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: working with you, like Janelle Monnet. 203 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 3: Yes, jay Z, Yes, I think that was a fascinating story. 204 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: So you were jay Z traveled to Jamaica. 205 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: That's the best sample I ever had. And I was 206 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: telling them before that's the best one because he really 207 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: took me with him and I think that I think 208 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: that was the right thing to do. He didn't go 209 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: behind my back, you know, he called up Gravy and 210 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: they talk and we went and that's that's that's the 211 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 2: best thing, the best that's the best way to do it. 212 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: At least I'm a part of it. And he was 213 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 2: the right one who did it. So that's that's my 214 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: best sump right there. 215 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that because people don't didn't know Like 216 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: a lot of times when artists are clearing samples, it's 217 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: lawyer is doing it, right, So the lawyer is calling 218 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: up somebody trying to figure out out who do we 219 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: need to contact. But maybe people weren't realizing, like we 220 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: can actually get in contact with systems. 221 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: Of course they could, and a lot of them know 222 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: where to find me because I've been here. I've been here, 223 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: you know, years, I've been here, you know. But some 224 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: people just don't want to They don't want to be bothered. 225 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: They don't want to pay you to do that stuff 226 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: because they think they just can do it and get away, right, 227 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: you know, until you put stuffage to it. No, everybody 228 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 2: called me if they want to use it, but before 229 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: they never, they never. And then some things that was 230 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: done before, we still catch up on that, Like things 231 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: were done before, like the sampling, some of the something 232 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: that did before. 233 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: You can go back, and we can't. 234 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: Go back, and you know, and you know we call 235 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: it just get that. 236 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: You know. 237 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: It's interesting because when I first reported the story, I know, 238 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: they said they were able to go back ten years. 239 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: It wasn't the full thirty two at all time. 240 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: That's okay, okay, it was okay with me because you know, 241 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: after realizing that I wasn't getting anything for thirty two years, 242 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: you know, I was just and trust me, well it's not. 243 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: It wasn't easy living working a nine to five job. 244 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: And people may think that because I was an accountant, 245 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: work in the bank and make all this money, and no, 246 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: I made no damn money there. There was no money there. 247 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: But it was something that I could all on to. Meanwhile, 248 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: my daughter was going to school, college, university, you know what, 249 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 2: because I have to do the best for Shandy because 250 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: she's my life. And then but after everything started coming 251 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: and they said ten ten years, of course I wasn't 252 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: getting anything, right, I'll take ye, just give me the 253 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: ten years and then fifty percent. I couldn't ask for 254 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: anything better. 255 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: That's great, and that's great, and it's great and great, great, Yeah, 256 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: it's trust me, it's life changing. Of course, it is 257 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: nice and you deserve it. Yes, it's not like yeah 258 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: and gave you any no, no, no, I work for that. 259 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's me. That's all my voice there, nobody else's own. 260 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: That's me. That's me, and I know that's me, all me. 261 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: And that voice is iconic. 262 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: I know. 263 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the early days too, 264 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: because I know and when I think about Bambam and 265 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: the time period that you actually put out one to 266 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: your first project, that's. 267 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: Not the first, that was once it was. No, My 268 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: first record was back in nineteen seventy nine. Yes, okay, yeah, 269 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: that's now. 270 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: Tell me about that though, because I can't even imagine 271 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: what it must have been like to be a woman. 272 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 2: My first song was nineteen seventy nine. The name of 273 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: it was Paperline, for the same producer most of my 274 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: songs are on the Technique's label, okay, and for mister 275 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: Winston Riley, most of my songs, you know. So that 276 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: was seventy nine, and then I had one. The second 277 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: one was money Caned by Love that's in nineteen eighteen. 278 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: Then I have one in Proda way the same here 279 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 2: before one two and Transport Connection I did all those 280 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: songs first. Okay, you know so one towards nineteen eighty two, 281 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,719 Speaker 2: So that first one I did from eighty two to 282 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 2: Transport Connection. Then I realized mister Raley said we need 283 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: to do an album, and then I finished album that year. 284 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 3: I want people to go back and listen to those 285 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: songs too, because. 286 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: I's still there, all of them. 287 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: I want people to cantallue to make sure they. 288 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: Because I've been doing this. I've been recording since nineteen 289 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 2: seventy nine from General Echo before he passed away. He 290 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: took me to mister Riley. So I did those songs 291 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: back in those days. But people think one two is 292 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: my first song. No, Papauline was my first song in 293 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine. 294 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: So being a woman in that business, what was that 295 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: like at that time? 296 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: Like the well, it wasn't. It was hard because as 297 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: I said, I had my brother, really Jerry was who 298 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: is highly respected, is a very highly respected digion. People 299 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: give me a leniency and some of them, you know, 300 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: like Johnmay and listen them sorry for me because of 301 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: my big brother. Back in them times, I used to 302 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: I used to listen to this lady and she was 303 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,479 Speaker 2: on the radio all the time. Her name is Momaliza 304 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: got the rest of her soul. And I used to 305 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: listen to her when I come from school. But I've 306 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 2: never seen her and not have seen her in the dance. 307 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: She was just like a record She was a record 308 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: artist on the radio, you know, transistor radio, and I 309 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: used to listen. You know, I want to do something 310 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: like that, and I want to do like my brother. 311 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: I always want to be like my brother, and up 312 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: to now, I still want to do that, you know. 313 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: So I just patternize him and and fell in love 314 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: with the gym and that's it. 315 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: And so even early on, like as far as doing 316 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: a deal, you had a record deal. 317 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: No, I did not. You didn't have it. 318 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: So you just were doing music. We don't know. We 319 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: don't have paperwork, no, no, okay, come on, Angela. 320 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: We didn't get no record deal when where No, we 321 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: just do music because we want to hear a voice 322 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: on the radio. We just love it, so we just 323 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: do it. We don't get nothing. 324 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: So the money really just came from performing, is that? 325 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: Yes? Okay, that's how we used to make money. Fifty 326 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: hundred dollars and then things because that's what they used 327 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: to pay us. It's a it's a little bit too, 328 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: but it was a lot of money at the time. Yeah. 329 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 3: Now I was gonna say back and oh yeah. 330 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do all kind of stuff. I could 331 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: go shopping and all that, but you don't know record 332 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: dealing in my time, we didn't get that. 333 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: Did you have a bigger vision of what you saw 334 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: for yourself when you were young? Because you love to perform, 335 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: and like you said, it wasn't like people were getting 336 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: record deals. They were just doing it because they loved it. 337 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: They wanted to be on the radio. But what's your 338 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: sister and Nancy say for herself as. 339 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:31,359 Speaker 2: Every young one, I think everybody, every artist, yeah, wish 340 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 2: for the best for them. And I'm going to tell 341 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: you truth. Back in the days, I wasn't even thinking 342 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: about that. As I said, I wanted to be like 343 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: my brother. I wasn't traveling, you know. He was like 344 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: going to Trinidad and maybe those small islandes, no big no, 345 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: we call it Jamaicans a big faring. You know, America 346 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: is a big firing. That's all Jamaica style. You know, 347 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: I got big firing. No, those would go small faring 348 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: like Trinidad, and you miss mainly Trinidad. You would go 349 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 2: so back in the days, I just wanted to do 350 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: what he does. I wasn't even thinking of anything great. 351 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: As I said, I just want to hear my voice 352 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: on the radio. I just want to, you know, because 353 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: I was going to school too, so I was just 354 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: I just want to hear me. I just want to 355 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: hear you know, a record, and then give me a record, 356 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: says is your voice and you go my plate on 357 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: a changer record the turntable. You don't want the turntable, 358 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: is right, yeah. And so we used to go and 359 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: we played, you played the whole day. That's all I 360 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: wanted nothing else. I wasn't thinking no, big, nothing because 361 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: it wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. 362 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: And Bam Bam is the last song that she recorded. 363 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: From Winton Riley. 364 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: No from the album wasn't it was done and harm 365 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: was Bam Bam is the last song I did put 366 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: on the album because I didn't have all ten songs, 367 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: only had nine. 368 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: So Bam Bam is the last track and I got 369 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: it through yellow Man. Wow. Yes, because yellow Man did 370 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: one of that day. When I went to the studio 371 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: with him, he did a bam bam with fed, So 372 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: I said, why not go to a bam bam? So 373 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: I did one. I didn't even know it to do. 374 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 2: You take me places, you know, I wasn't even thinking 375 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: of that, right, and it takes me everywhere. 376 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: So then you moved to New Jersey. Was the first 377 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: place you moved when you came to the United States? 378 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: Or New Jersey where I live, Okay, even though I 379 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: still I am still there. 380 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, So you said you came there because your 381 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: mom came. 382 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: My mother came been near not from nineteen seventy eight, 383 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 2: so she came here to look away from our children, 384 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: all of us, and she did and sent for us. 385 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: The only one was there before was my big brother, 386 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: Brigadier Jerry. He came here on his own, but my 387 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 2: mother sent for all of us. And we're Holly and 388 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: all of us. 389 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: Is in New Jersey, Patterson. I'm in Patison, Patterson, Okay. 390 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: My sister's in Paddison and I have one niece, Orange. 391 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: And so then you started working at the bank, Yes, 392 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: and you're an accountry school. 393 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: I came here and my mother sent me back to 394 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 2: school because I was I was about you know, I'm 395 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 2: always like a little getaway boy. They call me Tom, 396 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: you know. And I was always never do what my 397 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: parents say to do. I'm always a bad, bad child. 398 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 2: So when I get here, my mother told me that 399 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 2: she wanted me to go back to school. But I 400 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 2: was always going to school in Jamaica because I love school, 401 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: you know, but go to school. But you know, we 402 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: about the same were, you know. And when I came here, 403 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: she said, I want you to go back to school, 404 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: so you can that's the music. You have to get 405 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: something to do. And I said okay, and I went 406 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: back to school. I get my gd's first, and after 407 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: I get my GD, I went to a corporate college. 408 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: And after the corporate college, I went to that business 409 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 2: school to do paralegal and an accountant. I choose accountant 410 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: because I wanted to handle my own funds. 411 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 3: Okay, that makes sense. 412 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 2: So I choose accountent, which I could do both. But 413 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 2: the law I didn't like. Oh they talked to you. 414 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 2: I don't like our people. I don't like people boss me. 415 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 2: I'm very fasty, I'm very ignorant. And the mod who 416 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: knows me know that I stand up for myself. I 417 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: don't make you talk to me. You want to talk 418 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: to me, not gonna work. I'm to old for that. 419 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: I don't care what you have. You can't do it. 420 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 2: And jay Z can't tell you, you know because I 421 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 2: told him I got it a man and I'm a woman. No, 422 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 2: we equal. That's why I'm with my life. That's me. 423 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: I stand up for what I know, not believe. I believe. 424 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: It's a doubt. Knowing is now knowing. Yeah, So I 425 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 2: go to school and that's it. I get a job 426 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: and have to work, you know, tell my daughter to school. 427 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, though your father was a pastor, 428 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: is that my father was a pastor? How does he 429 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: feel about you doing music? Because I know sometimes that 430 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: can be a little. 431 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: When I was when I when I was born. My 432 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: father has been a sick person since the day I 433 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: get into this world and have since I can. I 434 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: can recall him at like from I was four years old. 435 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: That's all I remember my father. I have said, knowing 436 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 2: that that's what's dada. From that time, that's what we 437 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 2: call him dada. So and he was always a sick person, 438 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: my father. I never hear him speak because he lost 439 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: his he he lost his voice, and so I didn't 440 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: hear him preach, but my whole brothers and sisters did 441 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: because I'm the second to last one out of fifteen, 442 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: and so they always tell me everything that my dad do. 443 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 2: And people tell me your father could sing and you 444 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: have a wonderful voice. But it was not strange to 445 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: me because I never heard it, because I never heard 446 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: him speak. But that's what it was. And my house 447 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: was a was also a church. The house that I 448 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 2: grew up in was always a church. My brothers and sisters, 449 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: all of them can sing, who can sing, dance, who 450 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: can dance, play instruments. And I've been in been in 451 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 2: my family for as long as I can know, right, 452 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: so when I come do what I do, it's not 453 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: strange because I come and see my brother doing that. Right. 454 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just know sometimes when religion and music and 455 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: some I've heard people when I get. 456 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 2: Really when I really bricoled in the music my father, 457 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: it was worse and sick. So it didn't bother my father. 458 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: My mother. Now you know, my mother always wanted the 459 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: best for a children, which and a parent want the 460 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 2: best for the kids, right, every parent. And then my 461 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: brothers and sisters see that. That's how I had as 462 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: I told him aboud, I they can't tell me what 463 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: to do. I do whatever I want all would I do. 464 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: When they come home, they will beat me, But I'm 465 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: going tomorrow again. I don't care. You can beat me tomorrow. 466 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 2: I'm still gonna go tomorrow. That's how I was raised 467 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: like that, right, And my mother was away and now 468 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 2: my father was there, but my father was sick. So 469 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 2: my big big brothers, my holy brother and sisters. Do 470 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: you know what them came? Ma neagto me. If I 471 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: fight them, I gotta fight. Yeah, I gotta go. So 472 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 2: that's all it is. But you know it was we 473 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: had discipline at home and everything, but one child was 474 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 2: always and that was that child was me. It was me. 475 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: And then coming to work at a bank and New 476 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: Jersey at that time, and I see it amentary. 477 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 3: I know people are gonna west this and. 478 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: See it for themselves, but you definitely were taken off 479 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: and on weekends talking. 480 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 2: Still, and so I like every day they kind of 481 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: knew who you were. Yes, they know because I used 482 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: to sell my CDs there. Yeah, I used to make 483 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: my I used to make my own one two cities 484 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: and I used to take them there and sell them 485 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 2: because I got a few Jamaicans worked there, and then 486 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: a few Spanish. 487 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: That they probably like, you know we work with, Yes 488 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: they do. 489 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: And then some people from columbiad work. They're not been 490 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 2: to Columbia, Mexican and people from Peru. And I've been 491 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: to those countries to work, so they know me, this 492 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: said Ciszancid. While we work with sister nants everything, but 493 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: my boss she she never knows until one day she 494 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: come and she said, come in Nancy. And I went 495 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: and I said, what do you want, mister? What do 496 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: you want Ladia? She said, away you went last week? 497 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: I said nothing. They loved that that mic we have 498 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: dropped on my foot, so I had the foot band 499 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: up and everything. There's not wrong on the foot, she said, 500 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with your foot. I saw you. I 501 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 2: saw you and that competer bad bad bamming is I 502 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: saw you in Telliviv? She said, yes, I saw you. 503 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 2: Every week could tell me a different lie. Every week. 504 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 2: I tell my different like I start looking at you 505 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 2: on that computer and I see you everywhere you go, 506 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: this bad, bad, bad man. Let me say, okay, okay, lady, 507 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: it's me. What do you want me to do right, 508 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: you know. And then but I stopped lying to her, 509 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: and I say, you know what, I better just let 510 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 2: go and leave, you know, before them fire me. 511 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: Right, she probably want to know because it Yes, she 512 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,120 Speaker 3: won't mention she don't like me. 513 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: No, she don't like me. Should have fired me, should 514 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: fire me sooner or later? Because I am one of 515 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 2: the persons who stand up and talk to her. She's 516 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: four years older than me, you know, so she think 517 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 2: she talked to these young ladies on a certain way, 518 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 2: and I tell her, don't bring that to me. I said, 519 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: don't talk to me like that. I could not be 520 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: your daughter, your child. I'm a grown woman. So I 521 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: respect you as you're not my boss. You're not my boss, 522 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: you're a supervisor, and I respected my supervisor. I want 523 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: the same respect from you. Don't ded me like them girls. 524 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 2: So I know she never liked me, okay, because I 525 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: always stand up to her. 526 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: Oh so when you did leave, you already were in 527 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: the process of getting the money that you were supposed 528 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: to get. 529 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I start getting I start getting money 530 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 2: from the that Rebok commercial. Right, that's twenty fourteen. 531 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: It feels like your daughter was also very on it like, 532 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: come on, ma, we got to She always. 533 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 2: Be watching stuff, you know, because she she knows, you know, 534 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 2: she always she knows that who I am and everything, 535 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: and you know, I wasn't getting anything. So in times 536 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: she's saying things she would take she showed me and everything. 537 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: So I don't know. She said that on TV and 538 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: she said, Mommy, come on, you gotta do something. So yeah, 539 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: you're right because all these people making all these money 540 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: off and this, and that's that's my voice. That's me. 541 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: It was even for my voice because I know that's me, 542 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: and you know, we just get some you know, we 543 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: get some advice from attorney and one of them said 544 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: take it and didn't say him said this is a lot. 545 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: It's just too much. This is too much. It's that 546 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: you should you should own the whole thing. After so 547 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: many years, I tell him, I don't want the whole thing. 548 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: I just don't want what is right for mine. 549 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: Do you think that you would have pursued it if 550 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 1: it wasn't for your daughter encouraging you to do that? 551 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? Down the line, I would yeah, yeah, because I 552 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: was always work with grivy. I know, gravy that'll come 553 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: to it. Sometimes are you know, one of the one 554 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 2: of the Mandu that I worked, I work with Grivy 555 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: and you know and guys. And then when I come 556 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 2: to it after a while, moment, you need to do 557 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: something about this, you know. I know it was but 558 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: I glad my daughter did right, and I'm glad I did. 559 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I'm glad you did too. I was listen, 560 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: we were all when I was telling that, because even 561 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, I was like, did y'all see this story? 562 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 3: And I couldn't. It was shocking to me. 563 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: But it also shows you how this music business and 564 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: people will take advantage of what they will take advantage. 565 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: You know what, I don't. I don't think it's advantage 566 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: advantage in a way. But I don't think it's an advantage. 567 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: It's just like it's just back in the days, we 568 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: weren't fighting for what it's really holsed. It's not like now. 569 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: It's not like now. You you know a person who 570 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: would want to record you, and you have all these 571 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 2: you have all these conditions that you give them before 572 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: before recording. Back then, you didn't have that right, you know, 573 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: you didn't you just go on just do anything. 574 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: There was a point though, after Belly where you were 575 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 1: supposed to meet up. I think it was but Weinsday 576 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: and Riley. Yeah when I when I just came here 577 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: right and but it didn't show up. Yeah, you said 578 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: you waited for twelve hours. 579 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: I waited for twelve hours and he didn't didn't show up, 580 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: and I still you know, I just it was. It 581 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: hurt me because you know, it promised me that they 582 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 2: would be there and it didn't come. But you know, 583 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 2: it's okay, it's already done. 584 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: Right now. 585 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering because I'm like, all right, So it 586 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: feels like people knew there was something that should be done, 587 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: but you really had to Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, 588 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: that's a long How long did it take you to 589 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: finally get some type of resolution from when you first? 590 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen? The same time when I found when I 591 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: when I saw the rebook commercial, I think it was 592 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: it was February of twenty fourteen, and I startedting compensation 593 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 2: in April. Oh that's okay, yeah, because you know they 594 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: just say, you know what, when when the lawyers speak 595 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: to them and everything, you say, no, what just give 596 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 2: her because you know the giver. It's like they have 597 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: it waiting on me. 598 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: Right, how did how did you feel when that happened? 599 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: What I want to know, like, what was where were you? 600 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 3: What was there? 601 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 2: Workmen? 602 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 3: I was on the computer by everybody. 603 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 2: I was on the computer, and I see, you know, 604 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: because I give them all my information and everything I 605 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 2: was on the computer. I have a zero balanced think 606 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: about zero seven jun and fifty balance. I oh the 607 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: bank seven hundred and fifty dollars and I see this, 608 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: So what the hell I should know? But it finished 609 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: that same day. 610 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 3: That's amazing. 611 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I could get to do everything. I say. 612 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 2: You know what it's it's it's a thing that as 613 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: long as I'm alive, I can, I can collect collected it. 614 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: It's not gonna get worse. It has to get better 615 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 2: because people use bam bam every day. People use bam 616 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 2: bam every day. So it's just me to make sure 617 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: that even after my time, my daughter, because I only 618 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: have one child and I'm not a grandmother yet or anything, 619 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: so my daughters can still you know, live live from 620 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: it the same, just the same. Now. 621 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 1: I saw a main source was in the documentary and 622 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: they said just hanging out first. 623 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 3: So they really are the first, the first, And. 624 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 2: I have a plaque at my house like this that 625 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 2: they made for me in Toronto, and they they you know, 626 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: they they frame it nice and there's a main source, 627 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: the first to sample bam bam, you're coming to my 628 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: host you see that? And I met them. They were 629 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: the first screening in Toronto. Wonderful guys. Yes they are. 630 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: I love I love all of this. 631 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: Yes, So now you've been traveling all over you're booked 632 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: up until December. 633 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: December, yeah, the first and after two. 634 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: But just know that like you're finishing that year. 635 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: Not only are you getting the money from this, but 636 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: you're doing what you love to do and continue. 637 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 2: To performing perform. I love to perform. 638 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: Was it ever a slow time with the performances? 639 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: First? It's slow in everybody, right, It doesn't matter how 640 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: you see an artists, all big thinking artists. I know 641 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: they don't work all the time. No, they don't, none 642 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: of us. It don't happen to none of us. It's 643 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: a slow time and it's a high time. It's just 644 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: like you at home. You know you have your children 645 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: when when wintertime? Not winter time, but when Christmas time 646 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: you spend your money. When January it's back to school. Yeah, 647 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: so you don't you see February and March. It's very 648 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: slow for you. 649 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: The academy has everything really slow right now. 650 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: So it works like that, Yeah, it works, but it's 651 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 2: not for long. The mosse i'll stay at home is 652 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: a month. One month. I stayed home for a month 653 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: and just a month, And that bothers me because I've 654 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: never I've never been home a month. I always on 655 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: the street. I'm always working. 656 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 3: What about the emphasis and like, don't know what vacation is. 657 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: Because I'm I vacated on my own. 658 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I can understand that. You tell me so much 659 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: that being at home is like release. 660 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: Home is the best place. My favorite place in the 661 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: world is. It's my home, in my bed, it's my 662 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: favorite place. So I don't really have to go nowhere 663 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: because I travel a lot. 664 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: And you're also still recording music. Just I want to 665 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: make sure that people know that because you have new music. 666 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 2: It's my new album right here easy? 667 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: Oh and yes, and so that was something that you 668 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: actually put at it. I think it came out first 669 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: a few years ago and then you added more songs. 670 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 2: Is that one came out? One came out a few 671 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 2: years ago, But I did all the songs together. Okay, 672 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: the producer just fields just see the fifth time now, 673 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: he's just ready to release all them. 674 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna get in. 675 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get it release twenty twenty two. But you 676 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: just released all the songs now, which is good for me. 677 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: I think that's perfect time. 678 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: And yes it is because you have this documentary and 679 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: I know people are going to be yeah back and 680 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 1: being like, okay, let's you know, let's dig some and 681 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: so everything. 682 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 3: Assist Nancy and also merched. 683 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: You know, I have my skateboard here, and I believe 684 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: that this is also a first right for having your skateboard. 685 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: Nobody does that, only Gravy. 686 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: I bought mine here so that I could get a 687 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: signed so hopefully, yes I can't. 688 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: But there's no wheels on it, or you're gonna write 689 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: that thing. I hate it. I don't know why Gravy 690 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 2: made them like that. There's no wheels on that. 691 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: The wheels. You get the board and then you add 692 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 3: the wheels on. 693 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: Oh you have the wheels. 694 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're supposed to add them. 695 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: On larger put that on. No, I don't think I 696 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: think loge to have the wheels on. 697 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 3: Because we're gonna hange. 698 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: This terrible for you to do that. 699 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: We're not even gonna You're not even supposed to use this. 700 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: I know. I want to tell them to you. 701 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got up somewhere. 702 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: That's how I gotta get mine signed so we can 703 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: hang it. 704 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: That's no problem, you know. 705 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: So how are you feeling today with all of these 706 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: iconic things happening? Like if you had to describe what 707 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: life is like persistent Nancy today after all that you've 708 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: been through, Yes, and also just still persevering, but also 709 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: being pretty dav putting out music, putting out a documentary, 710 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: what would you say? 711 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: You know what I just said. I cannot complain. I'm 712 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: just grateful, appreciative of everything. I know it, and I 713 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen. It was just time I tell 714 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 2: people that. I tell my mother always say. She always 715 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: a Nancy God Wills, And before she passed away, she 716 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: she told me all of this. She said, it's gonna happen. 717 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: Things are gonna happen to you. You don't you won't 718 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 2: have to work hard or anything, because you're one of 719 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: the child that I have who is like this. If 720 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: I need to have you, I don't know what I 721 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 2: would do. And she told me that. Every day when 722 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: I go to the hospitality see her, she always tell 723 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: me that and always always things is gonna happen to you. 724 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 2: And and she died. And I don't know if she 725 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: blows on me or just not happening. But you know, 726 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: I can't complain, but I won't make nothing. Nothing amazed 727 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: me because I know it it was gonna happen to me, 728 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 2: right because I work hard for it. I'm the first 729 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: person who started this as a female in in the 730 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 2: dances Peace. I just said, so come on, I have 731 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 2: to there have to be something. 732 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 3: To any of the dancer artists today. 733 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: Reach out or Spice. 734 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 3: Oh, we love Spices. 735 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: Okay, Spice really loves me. She does. She tells me 736 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: that's great. So I really love your sister Nancy. 737 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: I always tell Spices man, I feel like her being 738 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: on love and hip hop. I'm like, they need to 739 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: give you more credit for all their tube accomplished. They 740 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: act like, you know, it's a little it's a little 741 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: crazy to me, but. 742 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: What all of them do and I and I admire them. 743 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 2: I admire all of these ladies. Of course I listen 744 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: to some of them, not all of them. But I 745 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 2: admire the ladies because it's it's it's you know, it's impowermant, 746 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: you know, and if most of them would tell you 747 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: it's because of sister Nancy make this happen. I see 748 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 2: you when I was a little kid, and some of 749 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: them will and and that really touches. 750 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: Me and the younger generation who even just outside of that, 751 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: it's like that's who's really showing up. 752 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 2: And really all the time, all the time. 753 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a special thing because I felt 754 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: like that's young people. 755 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: They just they follow me everywhere and I like that. 756 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: I like that. And they told me that I inspire 757 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 2: them so much. And I really like that. You know, 758 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: every time I perform my crime, but people don't know, 759 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 2: they think it's sweat. What would I perform my cry 760 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: to see how people react to me? And you know, 761 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 2: after all of these years, you know, a grown woman 762 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 2: going in you know, in middle sixty, you know, it's it's. 763 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 3: You don't find that, Yeah you don't. 764 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: You don't, you don't. But they told me there's a nanswer. 765 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: We just like the person that you are. You just 766 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: you just always there and you'll make people just laugh 767 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 2: everything you do and then you have that part of 768 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: you that's so conscious set it's like you really just 769 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 2: thought of you and we really love that and I 770 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 2: try my best to do that. 771 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: Amazing. How how you're scared is so amazing too. 772 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 2: By the way, I really just water, just water. I 773 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: only use water in my face, really, yes. 774 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: Ma'am and so and I think also diet too, Are 775 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: you vegan? 776 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: Not even eat? I love chicken and fish, okay, yes, 777 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: I love and if I can, I eat gold me. 778 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 2: But I have to cook it myself. I'm not vegan, okay. 779 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: But I do exercise. I walk three miles of the 780 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: morning and I tried to do and I do drink 781 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: a little, and I do smoke, and but I try 782 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 2: to do the best I can with me because nobody 783 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 2: knows me better than me. 784 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 3: An'ty amazing? 785 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: How smoking now it's just you could just do it anywhere, 786 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: think about how. 787 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: I know before I know? And I do it at 788 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: home though, And it's not vaping. It's just real smoke. Yeah, yeah, 789 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 2: you know what I smoke. It's not coke or crack 790 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 2: or hairlessp or you know, it's just smoke, the real thing. 791 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: I feel like that might be the next type of merch. 792 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 793 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: You know, I gotta tell Gravy and I that one 794 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,399 Speaker 2: over there that we have to I just want to say, 795 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 2: we need to smoke some bad We're going to make 796 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 2: it happen. We need to make it. 797 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: Do we know when the documentary is going to be 798 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: available on streaming services? 799 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: Well, but it's available now. 800 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 3: It is. 801 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 2: Okay, you can see, you can stream it. No one 802 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 2: get it, you know, because it's it's it's showing in 803 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: different places now, it's it's it's all around showing. Now. Okay, 804 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 2: it's in Trinida, they're trying to get it, in Jamaica, 805 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 2: it's in Ghana, Kenya. So as soon I think it's 806 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: gonna come here. 807 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: A couple of times, yeah, it was like gone, and 808 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: then because the chosen New Jersey three times because in 809 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 1: it and people always I see you. I just saw 810 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: you an assistantcy documentary. 811 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: That's nice. That's nice. 812 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 3: That was a blessing for me. 813 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: It's so common and you will know and and and 814 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: if you know you if you want to see, you 815 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 2: can see because I listen, listen, you can talk to 816 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 2: our listener. I know you can. Yeah. 817 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,240 Speaker 1: No, And also you have a show coming up in Brooklyn, 818 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: living where I'm from. 819 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You're gonna come. 820 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 3: Yes, December, better come at the Brooklyn Monarch. 821 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,919 Speaker 2: You better come. 822 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 3: And I want to say Uncle Ralph. 823 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: Ralph McDaniels is hosting that nice styles pee that's my guy. 824 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: Also was going to be there, yes. And then from 825 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,879 Speaker 1: from Janey, right we okay, that's gonna be Renee from 826 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: Jane is going. 827 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: To be there too. Renee is a very nice lady. 828 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: She is so amazing. 829 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: I really like that lady. I saw a Sunday. 830 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: She's very nice, so sweet. 831 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a very nice lady. I like nice people, 832 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 2: you know, because I think all you treat people, that's 833 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 2: all you wanted to be treated, and you should so 834 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 2: And she's nice, Like you're a nice lady too. 835 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: Thank you. 836 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: You know, in this business, when you get to the 837 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: point where you like, I only deal with the people 838 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: I like, that's. 839 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: A good feeling. But you can't do that. 840 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 3: You can't. 841 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: But you can't feel like it's a good feeling for me. 842 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 2: You can because some people you don't know if you 843 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 2: like them until you deal with them, and afterwards, sometimes 844 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 2: you still have to deal with them because maybe. 845 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 3: They Yeah, you know what you want to You want 846 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,280 Speaker 3: people to not like your lawyer. 847 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: Yess I don't like your lawyer because yes, yes, yes, 848 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: I like everybody's their job. 849 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 2: I like everybody. It's okay, all. 850 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 1: Right, Well listen, sister Nancy, thank you so much for 851 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: coming up here. 852 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 3: It is the last thing to have you. 853 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: Thank you, and we got to go see you December 854 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: eleventh at the Brooklyn Monarch. 855 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 3: We're outside. Thank you, Changela, thank you.