WEBVTT - Anatomy of the Great Replacement Panic feat. Steven Monacelli & Dr. Michael Phillips

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>This program includes violent content which some listeners might find disturbing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Michael Phillips, an historian and the author of a

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<v Speaker 3>book about racism in Dallas called White Metropolis an upcoming

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<v Speaker 3>book about the eugenics boom in Texas called The Purifying Knife.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Stephen Monicelli, an investigative reporter who covers political extremism

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas and beyond.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Pitch Start. Just before midnight on August third,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty nineteen, Patrick Crusius took off what would soon be

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<v Speaker 3>an infamous journey. The young man from the Dallas suburb

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<v Speaker 3>of Allen, Texas had become obsessed with an idea that

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<v Speaker 3>would soon move him to murder.

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<v Speaker 2>That idea had been inspired in part by Renaud Camu,

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<v Speaker 2>a French racist enraged by the growing Muslim population in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty eleven, Camu had given a new name to

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<v Speaker 2>what was actually an old idea with the publication of

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<v Speaker 2>his book Legrand Replacement, which translates in English to the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Replacement.

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<v Speaker 3>Camu argued that global elites had conspired to replace the white,

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<v Speaker 3>culturally superior population of Europe with darker skinned people who

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<v Speaker 3>were mostly Muslims from the Middle East and Africa. He

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<v Speaker 3>claimed these elites had opened the door to mass migration,

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<v Speaker 3>discouraged white reproduction, and encouraged the newcomers to intermarry with whites.

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<v Speaker 3>This racial displacement, Camu asserted, had brought crime and terrorism

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<v Speaker 3>to Europe and threatened the very survival of Western culture.

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<v Speaker 2>Camu's idea predated World War Two. The Great Replacement theory

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<v Speaker 2>hardly differed from key ideas promoted by eugenicists in Western

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<v Speaker 2>Europe and the United States in the late nineteenth century

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<v Speaker 2>and early twenty century. Eugenicists sought to ensure the survival

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<v Speaker 2>of those they believed to be biologically superior. Their methods

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<v Speaker 2>included forced sterilization and harsh immigration restrictions. Failure in this mission,

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<v Speaker 2>they believed, would lead to white extinction. But Camu's book

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<v Speaker 2>enraged and energized a new generation of far right extremists,

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<v Speaker 2>not just in his native France, but all around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Camu didn't specifically identify the elite spuzzedly responsible for what

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<v Speaker 3>he called a reverse colonization of the European homeland, but

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<v Speaker 3>leaders of the international far right quickly filled in the blanks.

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<v Speaker 3>The Great Replacement, conspiracy, theorists insisted had been engineered by

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<v Speaker 3>Jews who desired to destroy the Arians who served as

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<v Speaker 3>their only competitors for global control, and the chaos that

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<v Speaker 3>would unfold as europe racially darkened Jewish people would spuzzily

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<v Speaker 3>complete their conquests of the world's politics and finances, and

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<v Speaker 3>would enslave a now intellectually backward global workforce.

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<v Speaker 2>Camu's racist fever dream ricochet around the world and left

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<v Speaker 2>behind it a trail of blood. The dread of the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Replacement animated a coalition of neo Nazis and other

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<v Speaker 2>white supremacists who swarmed to Charlottesville, Virginia, on the night

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<v Speaker 2>of August eleventh, twenty seventeen, for a quote Unite the

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<v Speaker 2>Right rally protesting the proposed removal of a statue honoring

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<v Speaker 2>Confederate General Robert Elie. Carrying tiki torches, with many wearing

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<v Speaker 2>matching polo shirts and khakis, the extremists paraded on the

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<v Speaker 2>grounds of the University of Virginia campus, chanting white lives

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<v Speaker 2>Matter and a phrase directly inspired by Camu's now six

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<v Speaker 2>year old polemic.

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<v Speaker 4>Why not, Why not Jews?

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<v Speaker 1>Why Not?

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<v Speaker 3>Jews? The next day, one of the racist marchers murdered

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<v Speaker 3>an anti racism activist, Heather haer Wig ramdat car into

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<v Speaker 3>a crowd of counter protesters the following year, in twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 3>of forty six you're old white nationalist who feared a

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<v Speaker 3>hypothetical Jewish and Muslim plot to take over America entered

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<v Speaker 3>the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh's Squirrel Hill neighborhood, and,

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<v Speaker 3>using a long rifle and three semi automatic pistols, sprayed

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<v Speaker 3>the congregation with bullets over a period of twenty minutes,

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<v Speaker 3>murdering eleven and wounding six. The synagogue had participated in a

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<v Speaker 3>program to aid migrants fleeing violence and poverty in Central America,

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<v Speaker 3>charity work that prompted the murderer, Robert Bowers, to post

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<v Speaker 3>online that such organizations quote like to bring in invaders

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<v Speaker 3>that kill our people. I can't sit by and watch

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<v Speaker 3>my people get slaughtered.

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<v Speaker 2>The Great Replacement Theory and its online promoters claimed a

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<v Speaker 2>high body count in twenty nineteen. On March fifteenth, a

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight year old Australian man, Brendan Terrant, live streamed

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<v Speaker 2>his slaughter of fifty one Muslims and the wounding of

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<v Speaker 2>eighty nine others at Tu Mosque'es in christ Church, New Zealand.

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<v Speaker 2>Parant authored a seventy four page manifesto which he emailed

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<v Speaker 2>to newspapers and television stations, as well as New Zealand's

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister. He repeatedly referred to the Great Replacement theory

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<v Speaker 2>and expressed admiration for Anders Brevick, a Norwegian neo Nazi

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<v Speaker 2>terrorist who had killed seventy seven people in twenty eleven

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<v Speaker 2>because of his hatred for Muslims who have settled across

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<v Speaker 2>the European continent. In his manifesto, Tarrant praised American President

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump as a quote symbol of renewed white identity

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<v Speaker 2>and common purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>The murders inspired by the Great Replacement theory were far

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<v Speaker 3>from over. A mass shooting claimed three lives and wounded

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<v Speaker 3>three others at a synagogue in Powway, California, in April

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven, twenty nineteen, and three others died in seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>more suffered injuries during an attack at the Gilroy Garlick

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<v Speaker 3>Festival in the same state on July twenty eighth. This

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<v Speaker 3>was the heartbreaking worldwide context in which Patrick Crusius of Allen, Texas,

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<v Speaker 3>took a fatal journey just six stays after the Illroy massacre.

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<v Speaker 2>Crusius marked his twenty first birthday just the weekend before

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<v Speaker 2>the massacre. But for the unemployed young man, it was

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<v Speaker 2>not a happy occasion. He had grown up watching his

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<v Speaker 2>father's struggle with chemical dependency. High school classmates described him

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<v Speaker 2>as withdrawn, and one claimed he had been bullied by

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<v Speaker 2>Spanish speaking students. His parents divorced, and he moved to

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<v Speaker 2>his grandparents' home in a suburb north of Dallas called Allan,

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<v Speaker 2>a town with a median family income of more than

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and twenty one thousand dollars and a history

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<v Speaker 2>of white flight. Unemployed Crusius spent a lot of hours

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<v Speaker 2>on eight chan, an online message board favored by white supremacists.

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<v Speaker 3>Crusius had given himself a grim mission he believed no

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<v Speaker 3>one else had the guts to carry out, According to

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<v Speaker 3>the Dallas Morning News. Late that Friday evening, he loaded

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<v Speaker 3>his humble twenty twelve Honda Civic with his laptop computer,

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<v Speaker 3>one thousand rounds Apollo point bullets ear muffs in a

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<v Speaker 3>semi automatic civilian version of an AK forty seven he

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<v Speaker 3>had ordered online from Romania. The Texas Tribune later reported

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<v Speaker 3>that as of twenty nineteen, Romania was exporting nine thousand

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<v Speaker 3>AK forty sevens to the United States every year. He

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<v Speaker 3>also brought heavily insulated gloves because that rifle, he would

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<v Speaker 3>later complain, quote, overheats massively. After about one hundred shots

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<v Speaker 3>or fired in quick succession, the college student sought to

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<v Speaker 3>start a war one he thought he wouldn't survive, but

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<v Speaker 3>that if others followed his example might save the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Head of his ten hour trek westward across the vast

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<v Speaker 2>Texas landscape, Crusius filled his gas tank and pumped himself

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<v Speaker 2>with energy drinks. He arrived in El Paso at about

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<v Speaker 2>eight am, first parking at a CSE's Pizza, which happened

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<v Speaker 2>to be closed. He then cruised around the border city

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<v Speaker 2>of almost seven hundred thousand people, where sixty three percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the population primarily speaks Spanish at home. He eventually

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<v Speaker 2>stopped at the parking lot of a Walmart superstore nicknamed

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<v Speaker 2>the Juarez Walmart because of the large number of customers

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<v Speaker 2>who shopped there from across the Mexican border. About three

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<v Speaker 2>thousand people in all reestimated to be at the retail

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<v Speaker 2>outlet when Crusius arrived.

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<v Speaker 3>Crusius walked inside and cased the joint for at least

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<v Speaker 3>half an hour. He went back to his civic and

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<v Speaker 3>sat for a while in contemplation. Hungry, he went back

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<v Speaker 3>into the store, bought an orange, and then, after returning

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<v Speaker 3>to his car a second time, gobbled it. He then

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<v Speaker 3>posted online a two three hundred and eighty eight word

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<v Speaker 3>racist screed called The Inconvenient Truth. At about ten thirty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>Crusius stepped out of his car, weapon in hand, and

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<v Speaker 3>began massacring Mexicans and Mexican Americans. He described in his

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<v Speaker 3>manifesto as quote the Invaders.

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<v Speaker 5>This is an NBC News special report, and here's Jose

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<v Speaker 5>dis Bollard.

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<v Speaker 6>Good afternoon, and update now on that deadly shooting here

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<v Speaker 6>a busy shopping in El Paso, Texas. It happened at

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<v Speaker 6>a walmart near Colo Vista Mall this morning about ten

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<v Speaker 6>am local time. The scene is about seven miles from

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<v Speaker 6>downtown l Paso.

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<v Speaker 2>In about three minutes, Crusius slaughtered twenty three and wounded

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two others, in spite of expressing a wish that

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<v Speaker 2>he would die in the attack, Crusius surrendered. Police quickly

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<v Speaker 2>connected Crusius to his Internet dietribe, which he opened by

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<v Speaker 2>saying he quote supports the christ Church shooter and his manifesto,

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<v Speaker 2>referring to Brenton Terran. Crusius then pivoted to outrage over

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<v Speaker 2>Mexican immigration in the United States. Jason Whiteley of a

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<v Speaker 2>WFAA in Dallas reported on the manifesto's disturbing content.

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<v Speaker 7>In the letter, the shooter describes himself as a white nationalist,

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<v Speaker 7>a right wing extremist consumed by conspiracy theories. In short,

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<v Speaker 7>he thinks that white people are being replaced by immigrants

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<v Speaker 7>in this country. The letter states this attack is in

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<v Speaker 7>response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators,

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<v Speaker 7>he wrote, not me. I am simply defending my country

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<v Speaker 7>from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion.

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<v Speaker 3>By the time of the El Paso massacre, eighty men, women,

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<v Speaker 3>and children had been murdered by extremists inspired by the

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<v Speaker 3>great Replacement theory in twenty nineteen alone. The carnage didn't

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<v Speaker 3>end at al Paso. On May fourteenth, twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>a white suspect wrote a hateful rant he posted online

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<v Speaker 3>before murdering ten and wounding three African Americans in a Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 3>New York supermarket. He linked declining white birth rates to genocide.

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<v Speaker 3>On May sixth, twenty twenty three, Mauricio Martinez Garcia, a

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<v Speaker 3>Latino white supremacist who embraced neo Nazi ideology, drove from

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<v Speaker 3>his Dallas apartment to an outlet mall in Crusius's hometown

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<v Speaker 3>of Allen. Tattooed with a Swaska, Garcia shot to death

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<v Speaker 3>nine people, including a three year old, and wounded seven

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<v Speaker 3>others before being killed by a police officer. Garcia seemed

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<v Speaker 3>to be targeting Asians and Asian Americans Throughout this mayhem.

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<v Speaker 2>The political right has proven eager to blame everything but

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<v Speaker 2>the wide open gun laws in places like Texas, which

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<v Speaker 2>made it legal for Crusius to mail order a civilian

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<v Speaker 2>style AK forty seven. There was no interrogation of the

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<v Speaker 2>long history of racism or of repeated Republican rhetoric depicting

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<v Speaker 2>immigrants as dangerous, but there were other convenient excuses. In

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<v Speaker 2>an interview on the Sunday edition of Fox and Friends

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<v Speaker 2>shortly after the Opasser tragedy, Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>offered a menu of alternative explanations for the mass shooting,

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<v Speaker 2>such as video games. He also suggested that public schools

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<v Speaker 2>needed a healthy infusion of theocracy and reverence for the

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<v Speaker 2>stars and stripes.

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<v Speaker 8>Where are we as a country. I look at social media,

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<v Speaker 8>that the violence of just bullying people on social media

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<v Speaker 8>every day, and we turn our head and we allow it.

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<v Speaker 8>I look at on a Sunday morning when most of

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<v Speaker 8>your viewers right now, half of the country are getting

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<v Speaker 8>ready to go to church, and yet tomorrow we won't

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<v Speaker 8>let our kids even pray in our schools. We have

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<v Speaker 8>to look at ourselves as a nation. That's many factors

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<v Speaker 8>that go into the shooting, many factors, and it's not

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<v Speaker 8>a time to politicize at the time to look deep

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<v Speaker 8>inside of who we are as a country where we

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<v Speaker 8>no longer salute our flag or we throw water on

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<v Speaker 8>law enforcement and thank god we have law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 2>In recent years, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick has described immigration

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<v Speaker 2>at the southern border as an invasion that is part

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<v Speaker 2>of a democratic plan to quote take over our country

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<v Speaker 2>without firing a shot. In response to this alleged plan,

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick has said that Texas has a right to defend

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<v Speaker 2>itself from the threat of criminal invaders in a Fox

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<v Speaker 2>News interview in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 9>For all those people who should come here legally processed

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<v Speaker 9>and vetted. In that group are hundreds of thousands, thousands

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<v Speaker 9>and thousands of criminals, murderers, molesters, gang members, drug dealers, carjackers, kidnappers,

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<v Speaker 9>you name it, they're part of this group and terrorist.

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<v Speaker 3>Patrick Crusius's panic about white genocide and the violent rise

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<v Speaker 3>of black and brown people against Western civilization had deep

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<v Speaker 3>roots in American culture. The Texas history of segregation, white

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<v Speaker 3>flight post September eleventh, Islamophobia, and the backlash to globalization

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<v Speaker 3>poison Crusius' particular worldview. But perhaps the biggest factor in

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<v Speaker 3>Crusius's murderous rampage was that he was taught to hate

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<v Speaker 3>and fear immigrants by the grown ups around him in

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<v Speaker 3>the Dallas Fort Worth area.

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<v Speaker 4>But before we get into that, a quick eye break.

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<v Speaker 2>The fear of white distinction at the hands of so

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<v Speaker 2>called savages dates back to Puritan New England in the

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen hundreds, even as they lethally infected tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of native peoples with bubonic plague malaria measles, smallplox, and typhus.

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<v Speaker 2>English colonizers slew thousands more in wars of conquests that

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<v Speaker 2>did not spare the very old, infants, that disabled, or

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<v Speaker 2>the unarmed. Puritans didn't just kill Native Americans. They often

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<v Speaker 2>tortured them first and desecrated their bodies with rituals of humiliation,

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<v Speaker 2>such as scalping. With each act of genocide, however, the

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<v Speaker 2>Puritans projected those war crimes on their victims. One Puritan leader,

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<v Speaker 2>William Bradford, the governor of the Plymouth Colony, warned that

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<v Speaker 2>whites were in quote continual danger of the savage people.

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<v Speaker 2>A white habit of mind formed that relieved any guilt

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<v Speaker 2>the inhabitants of colonial America might feel about their bloodthirsty conquests.

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<v Speaker 2>The invaders became the defenders of the homeland, the outarmed

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<v Speaker 2>became the menace, and the vanquished became the progressors. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>genocide became an act of self defense.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Lone Star state public school students are required

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<v Speaker 3>to study Texas history, Crusius would have been fed highly

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<v Speaker 3>distorted accounts of the Texas Revolution of eighteen thirty five

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<v Speaker 3>to eighteen thirty six. Although the content has improved since

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<v Speaker 3>the Civil Rights movement. For the most part, Texas history

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<v Speaker 3>textbooks have depicted Mexican soldiers as ruthless killers who, without qualms,

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<v Speaker 3>shot Anglo soldiers at the Battle of Goliad in Southeast

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<v Speaker 3>Texas and the survivors at the Alamo after they surrendered.

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<v Speaker 3>These same students were not typically taught that white Texans

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<v Speaker 3>massacred six hundred and fifty Mexican soldiers, most of whom

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<v Speaker 3>had already cast away their weapons after the Battle of

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<v Speaker 3>San Jacinto the engagement that ended the Texas Revolutionary War.

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<v Speaker 2>Until the late twentieth century, Texas students were also taught

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<v Speaker 2>that after the Civil War, the abolition of slavery and

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<v Speaker 2>the enfranchisemen of African Americans, dangerous chaos reigned. A sort

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<v Speaker 2>of racist myth was promoted in textbooks and classroom lectures

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<v Speaker 2>that Reconstruction, the state's first brief, failed experiment in multiracial democracy,

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<v Speaker 2>was actually a tragedy. According to the legend promoted in schoolhouses,

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<v Speaker 2>Reconstruction was defined not by increased literacy, improved infrastructure, in

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<v Speaker 2>the expansion of black human rights, but instead by political corruption,

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<v Speaker 2>wild government overspending, high taxes, out of control crime, and

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<v Speaker 2>endemic incompetence. During reconstruction, children were taught the United States

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<v Speaker 2>armed African American soldiers, who then harassed and assaulted harmless whites,

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<v Speaker 2>especially women. In short, across the curriculum, white students learned

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<v Speaker 2>that whenever black and brown people gained power politically, socially,

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<v Speaker 2>or economically, white people have been in mortal peril, a

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<v Speaker 2>lesson that implies the need to kill or be killed.

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<v Speaker 3>In the nineteen twenty nineteen thirties, white American school kids

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<v Speaker 3>across the country were indoctrinated into accepting eugenics. In their

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<v Speaker 3>biology classes. They learned that if they didn't produce large

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<v Speaker 3>enough families, whites would lose a demographic race to Jews, Italians, Russians,

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<v Speaker 3>and other immigrants pouring into the country. A best selling

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<v Speaker 3>American author in the nineteen twenties, Lothrop Stoddard, warned his

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<v Speaker 3>readers that unless trends were reversed, racially, superior Nordics, as

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<v Speaker 3>he called those from western northern Europe, might have to

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<v Speaker 3>fight a war of extermination to stem a deadly tide

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<v Speaker 3>of color. That when Gulf white people worldwide.

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<v Speaker 2>El Paso shooter Patrick Crusius grew up in Colin County,

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<v Speaker 2>which borders Dallas County on the north. The county's wealth

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<v Speaker 2>before the Civil War derived primarily from cotton cultivated by

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<v Speaker 2>enslaved labor. During reconstruction, klansmen organized in the county seat

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<v Speaker 2>of McKinney to terrorize African Americans into not voting. African

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<v Speaker 2>Americans continued to toil as farm labor after he RECNSCIS destruction,

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<v Speaker 2>and the white population kept them under tight control through

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<v Speaker 2>occasional outbursts of homicidal violence. In the summer of eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety eight, local whites panicked when between thirty to forty

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<v Speaker 2>African Americans from out of town routinely gathered during a

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<v Speaker 2>rainy season in hopes to be on hand when the

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<v Speaker 2>weather cleared up so they could resume working. Ominous notices

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<v Speaker 2>began to appear around the town that said quote, mister Negro,

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<v Speaker 2>don't let the sun go down on you. On June

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<v Speaker 2>fifteenth of that year, klansmen warned black residents that they

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<v Speaker 2>had no more than ten days to leave the area.

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<v Speaker 2>One family, the Sebrons, became the target of a violent

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<v Speaker 2>mob of vigilantes known as white cappers, who arrived at

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<v Speaker 2>their home in the middle of the night to punish

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<v Speaker 2>them for not vacating their home on Main Street. Anticipating

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<v Speaker 2>the arrival of the terrorists, Jake Sebrin stood by the

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<v Speaker 2>door of his home holding a Winchester rifle. When his

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<v Speaker 2>assailants realized he had a gun, they fired into the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Jake then attempted to shoot back, but he was unable

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<v Speaker 2>to stop the assailants from fatally shooting his pregnant wife, Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>The three Cebrian children were found screaming and clinging to

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<v Speaker 2>bed sheets near their mother's bloody body inside their home.

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<v Speaker 2>When it was all said and done, White Capper violence

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<v Speaker 2>continued for years across the state, targeting both African Americans

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<v Speaker 2>and Mexican Americans in an effort to maintain white supremacy.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirteen years later, on August eleventh, nineteen eleven, Colin County

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<v Speaker 3>authorities arrested a Farmersville man, Commodore Jones, for allegedly flirting

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<v Speaker 3>with a white telephone operator. A mob of three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>outraged white sized Jones from police custody, carried him to

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<v Speaker 3>the city square and hanged him from a poll in

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<v Speaker 3>front of the telephone office. In spite of this, bloody history,

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<v Speaker 3>Colin County got rich, and by the nineteen seventies transformed

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<v Speaker 3>into a major urban center. This development correlated with white flight,

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<v Speaker 3>as Dallas glacially succumbed to court order desegregation beginning in

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<v Speaker 3>the nineteen sixties, and after uprising and response to a

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<v Speaker 3>Dallas police saw officer forcing a twelve year old Latino

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<v Speaker 3>Santos Rodriguez to play a fatal game of Russian Roulette

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<v Speaker 3>in the backseat of a police squad car.

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<v Speaker 2>White flight fueled population explosion in Colin County, governed by

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<v Speaker 2>conservatives who kept property taxes low compared to those in

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<v Speaker 2>the metropolitan center to the south. Corporations followed this population

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<v Speaker 2>shift during the half century between the nineteen seventies and

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenties. Doctor Pepper, Friedo Lay, J. C. Penny, Curing,

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<v Speaker 2>Pizza Hut, and the Professional Golfers Association of America, as

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<v Speaker 2>well as Toyota, planted their corporate headquarters there. However, even

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<v Speaker 2>if whites moved to Colin County in the nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 2>to avoid school integration and feared urban unrest, the new

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<v Speaker 2>corporations brought with them diverse work forces that include Muslims, Hindus,

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<v Speaker 2>and people of color from all around the world. In

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand, non Hispanic whites made up slightly more than

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<v Speaker 2>eighty one percent of the Colon County population. In twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>that number was slightly less than fifty Asian Americans and

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<v Speaker 2>Asian immigrants made up almost seven percent of the population,

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<v Speaker 2>while Mexican Americans and immigrants from south of the Rio

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<v Speaker 2>Grand represented more than ten percent. All the ingredients needed

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<v Speaker 2>were present for a vicious racial backlash.

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<v Speaker 3>By twenty thirteen, the right wing in the entire Dallas

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<v Speaker 3>Fort Worth area was in full panic mode about immigration.

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<v Speaker 3>In twenty nineteen, Texas was believed to have the largest

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<v Speaker 3>Muslim population of any state, numbering about four hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two thousand, still less than two percent of the

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<v Speaker 3>total state population, but one of the fastest growing religious

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<v Speaker 3>demographics in the area. Two thirds of that population lives

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<v Speaker 3>in the Houston and Dallas Fort Worth metropolitan areas. Muslim

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<v Speaker 3>worshippers pray it as many as fifty five mosque in

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<v Speaker 3>the Dallas Fort Worth area, and the Muslim population in

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<v Speaker 3>north central Texas is believed to have tripled since twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty thirteen, Harry Lerosieir won election as mayor in

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<v Speaker 2>the Collin County city of Plano. Conservatives mocked him at

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<v Speaker 2>the time as the quote mayor from Haiti, in reference

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<v Speaker 2>to his birthplace. When affordable multi family housing was proposed

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<v Speaker 2>for the suburb of Plano, fear quickly spread that black

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<v Speaker 2>and brown, low income workers would fill those residences. Signs

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<v Speaker 2>appeared that said quote, don't Dallas my Plano, referring to

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<v Speaker 2>the largely black and brown population in the metropolitan center.

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<v Speaker 2>Republican politicians across the Dallas Fort Worth area began to

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<v Speaker 2>warn that some of the newcomers plotted to impose quote Sharia,

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<v Speaker 2>or Muslim law. The panic stemmed from the practice of

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<v Speaker 2>many American mosques offering non binding mediation services, employing principles

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<v Speaker 2>from the Qur'an to couples in troubled marriages to resolve

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<v Speaker 2>bitter business disputes between Muslims and so on. Such arbitration

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<v Speaker 2>is not legally binding, and Muslim practices can't be imposed

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<v Speaker 2>on non Muslims because of the First Amendment of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States Constitution, which forbids the government from establishing any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of religion. Nevertheless, one Plaino State Representative Jeff Leach

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fifteen introduced an anti sharia law in the

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<v Speaker 2>Texas legislature. His bill failed, but Governor Abbott later signed

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<v Speaker 2>a similar law in twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>Dread about Muslims and Sharia law dominated politics in Irving,

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<v Speaker 3>a suburb with a population of about a quarter million

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<v Speaker 3>people twelve miles northwest of Dallas for much of twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 3>In February, then Mayor Beth Van Dyne, who later became

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<v Speaker 3>a Trump appointee, characterized a Muslim mediation panel reportedly located

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<v Speaker 3>in the Islamic center of Irving as an Islamic court.

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<v Speaker 3>She introduced a resolution to the Irving City Council supporting

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<v Speaker 3>Leech's proposed legislation. It passed five to four, is reported

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<v Speaker 3>by a CBS affiliate in Dallas.

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<v Speaker 10>Irving Mayor Beth Van Dyne has accused local Muslim leaders

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<v Speaker 10>in the past of creating their own laws called Sharia law,

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<v Speaker 10>and adjudicating that doctrine bypassing the state and federal court system.

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<v Speaker 10>Catholic and Jewish faiths also have similar tribunals that are

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<v Speaker 10>presided over by faith leaders who act as arbitrators, but

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<v Speaker 10>the locally mom here in Irving says Islam is being

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<v Speaker 10>targeted yet not breaking any law.

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<v Speaker 11>They believe that we are trying to supersede the all

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<v Speaker 11>state laws, and that's not the case. We work within

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<v Speaker 11>the boundaries of federal and state law.

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<v Speaker 2>Anti Muslim tensions spread across the Dallas Fort Worth area,

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<v Speaker 2>ending in tragic violence. Anti Muslim extremists held a deliberately

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<v Speaker 2>provocative quote draw the profit art contest in Garland, Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>a city of about two hundred and thirty five thousand

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<v Speaker 2>just north of Dallas, knowing that the images of Ma

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<v Speaker 2>Shamed are prohibited by Islam and were likely to inflame

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<v Speaker 2>the broader Muslim community. Two heavily armed Muslim men took

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<v Speaker 2>the bait that day, driving from out of state and

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<v Speaker 2>arriving at the scene of the contest on May third.

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<v Speaker 2>They then shot a Garland police car before being killed

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<v Speaker 2>with return fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Little more than four months at the Garland shootings, Irving

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<v Speaker 3>police arrested Achmed Mohammed, a Muslim of Sudanese background, on

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<v Speaker 3>September fourteenth, twenty fifteen, after the fourteen year old had

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<v Speaker 3>brought a digital clock built as a personal science project

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<v Speaker 3>to MacArthur High School. Proud of his creation, Mohammed showed

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<v Speaker 3>the clock to one of his teachers, who subjected the

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<v Speaker 3>boy to racial profiling. Fearing the clock might be a bomb,

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<v Speaker 3>the teacher seized the device and sent Mohammed to the principal,

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<v Speaker 3>who then called irving police. Officers interrogated the boy for

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<v Speaker 3>ninety minutes while his parents were denied access to their son. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>a militia inspired by Irving Mayor Van Dine's alarmist warnings

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<v Speaker 3>of our Sharia law showed up at two mosque and

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<v Speaker 3>the Dallas suburbs, wearing camouflage and mask and brandishing twelve

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<v Speaker 3>gage shotguns as a stock worshipper's going to prayer.

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<v Speaker 2>Islamophobia in the Dallas Fort Worth area even extended to

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<v Speaker 2>deceased Muslims. The Islamic Association of Collin County had hoped

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<v Speaker 2>to establish a thirty five acre burial plot in Farmersville,

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<v Speaker 2>a town of about four thousand people. When the Farmersville

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<v Speaker 2>Planning and Zoning Commission approved the plan in May twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen without a dissending vote, furious opposition erupted. According to

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<v Speaker 2>a CNN report.

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<v Speaker 12>Farmersville is about twenty five miles away from Garland, Texas,

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<v Speaker 12>where in May police killed two Muslim gunmen who tried

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<v Speaker 12>to carry out a deadly attack at a draw the

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<v Speaker 12>prophet Mohammed event. One resident in Farmersville has even suggested

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<v Speaker 12>using pigs to scare away the Muslim group.

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<v Speaker 5>Peg and dump pig's bud and pig heads on a float.

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<v Speaker 12>They won't buy the land.

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<v Speaker 3>If I had my way, I would outlaw at Islam

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<v Speaker 3>in America. Farmersville resident Jack Hawkins declared that planning his

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<v Speaker 3>zoning commission meeting, quote, I would tear down every mosque

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<v Speaker 3>that was in this country. That's how I feel about it.

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<v Speaker 3>A local Baptist minister suggested that the cemetery would lead

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<v Speaker 3>to the establishment of the Madrasa, a Muslim religious school

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<v Speaker 3>that could become a training ground for extremists. He was

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<v Speaker 3>interviewed by CNN.

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<v Speaker 13>And I believe I'm a watchman on the wall, Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 13>thirty three see the incoming danger.

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<v Speaker 12>David Meeks is the pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, which

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<v Speaker 12>ironically sits next to a cemetery. He says the cemetery

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<v Speaker 12>could bring radical Islam to Farmersville.

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<v Speaker 13>I see the expansion of Islam that's going on all

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<v Speaker 13>over the world. Now it's come to my hometown.

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<v Speaker 12>And you see that danger in a cemetery.

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<v Speaker 13>Anytime you see the Islamic folks coming into a neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 13>I think, in my opinion, I think you can say

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<v Speaker 13>we could be less safe future than we are right now.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred opponents of the cemetery crowded into a July fourteenth,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty sixteen, city council meeting in Farmersville, with some residents

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<v Speaker 2>expressing the fear that Muslim corpses would countaminate the local

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<v Speaker 2>water supply. Members of the local Muslim community and of

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<v Speaker 2>the Farmersville City Council suffered threats of violence. Facing a

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<v Speaker 2>federal lawsuit, the City of Farmersville finally relented and on

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<v Speaker 2>September twentieth, twenty eighteen, allowed the Islamic Association to move

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<v Speaker 2>ahead with purchasing the land needed for their graveyard.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the poison air. Patrick Crusius grew up breathing.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't kill because of computer games, because they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>pray at schools he attended because a protest against police

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<v Speaker 3>violence or the collapse of respect for authority. Crusius wrote

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<v Speaker 3>that America is rotting, quote from the inside out, because

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<v Speaker 3>of immigration, and that unless whites took up arms against

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<v Speaker 3>dark skinned newcomers, whites could become extinct. In his manifesto,

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<v Speaker 3>this insisted he embraced the great replacement theory before Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump became president. One can only wonder how many other

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<v Speaker 3>self appointed racial warriors might be inspired of violence by

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<v Speaker 3>the twenty twenty four presidential campaign that centered mostly on

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<v Speaker 3>the purported dangers of what Trump repeatedly called migrant crime,

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<v Speaker 3>including the eating of neighbors, cats, and dogs in the

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<v Speaker 3>spread of deadly diseases. Trump has even repeated the warnings

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<v Speaker 3>of early twentieth century eugenicists about the biological damage he

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<v Speaker 3>claims immigrants are bringing bad genes to the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>He says Trump's incendiary anti immigrant rhetoric has been compiled

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<v Speaker 3>by the new site Politico.

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<v Speaker 5>Americans have watched their communities destroyed by this sudden, suffocating

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<v Speaker 5>inundation of illegal aliens. I said, if you let them in,

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<v Speaker 5>it's going to be hell. They are vicious, violent criminals.

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<v Speaker 5>These are stone cold killers. They'll walk into your kitchen,

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<v Speaker 5>they'll cut your throat. These are people at the highest

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<v Speaker 5>level of killing that cut your throat and they won't

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<v Speaker 5>even think about it the next morning. These people are

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<v Speaker 5>roaming our country. They could go into a restaurant, they

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<v Speaker 5>can do whatever they want, and they will kill you

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<v Speaker 5>because they are wired that way. These people are animals.

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<v Speaker 5>Now they'll say, oh, that's a terrible thing for him

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<v Speaker 5>to say. No, No, these people are animals. It's in

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<v Speaker 5>their jeans, and we got a lot of bad jeans

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<v Speaker 5>in our country right now.

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<v Speaker 3>That tread a white genocide has been nurtured across centuries

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<v Speaker 3>of American history and has become one of this country's

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<v Speaker 3>major exports.

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<v Speaker 2>And with politicians like Donald Trump stoking fear about the

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<v Speaker 2>alleged quote enemy within and promoting mass deportations and the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of quote remigration, which is a notion with a

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<v Speaker 2>deeply fascist history, we are almost certain to see the

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<v Speaker 2>great replacement panic continue to boil under the surface of

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<v Speaker 2>a society with constantly shifting demographics. Ongoing economic insecurity will

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<v Speaker 2>feed into this, and the passive acceptance of gun violence

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<v Speaker 2>as the price for American freedom will certainly feed into

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<v Speaker 2>future racist violence. This is Stephen Monticelli.

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<v Speaker 3>And This is Michael Phillips. Thanks for listening.

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