WEBVTT - 6: We Got Him, Girls 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:06.840 Novel. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:15.160 Hey listeners, I'm your host, Ellie Flynn. Before we get started, 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:17.920 I just wanted to let you know that this episode 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:23.000 contains swearing, explicit sexual language, and some upsetting scenes. It's 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:26.560 also a story of female empowerment and camaraderie thanks to 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:29.280 the women who have shared their stories with us. We 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.920 contacted the photographer mentioned in this podcast multiple times for comment, 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.800 but we never heard back. He has not been charged 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.280 with any crimes and is presumed innocent under the law. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.720 We also contacted Playboy USA. They state that they have 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.680 asked their licensees to blacklist the photographer mentioned in this 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:49.240 series and that they prohibit paid to play the practice 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.720 of charging models to appear in magazines. Our research into 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.840 his association to Playboy and their statement can be heard 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.960 in episode four, Last Time on the Bike. 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.240 Like Hi, my name is Louise. He told me he 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:07.680 likes making pictures in the room, so I didn't think 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:11.000 much of it. And then your slowly, step by step 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.720 also get into the content of making nude pictures, and 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.880 I to ask him again, You're not gonna put them anywhere? No, 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.000 they're just for you. He was putting the camera down, 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.440 and after he put it down, he started his way 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:28.640 up from my feet and legs, kissing me upwards. I 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.200 was scared to leave at this point when I was 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.319 with him alone in the room, So what other options 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:33.679 do I have? 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:35.520 Just let him have it. 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.399 Just close your eyes and it's done. 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.760 After her shoot with Luis Gaimez, Gabriella is trying to 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:47.080 take her mind of what's just happened. She can't leave 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:49.200 the hotel yet. Her mom is on the way to 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.520 join her for a holiday when the event is over, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.960 so for now she's start here. Thankfully, She's met a 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.400 great group of models at the event and sports them 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:00.520 at the hotel restaurant. 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.600 Four girls invited me to join, so we had lunch 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.200 together and we were talking about a little bit of 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.440 making pictures and shooting ideas about the background. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.720 Gabriella doesn't tell the other models about her experience with Louise, 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.000 but she does mention that she shot with him. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:18.440 One of them looks worried. 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.840 She told me, just be careful of Louise Gomez. 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:22.760 He has Patreon. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:28.400 Sorry, my English is pretty good, but I don't understand 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:28.720 that word. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.320 Can you please explain what it is? 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:30.639 Oh? 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.600 Patreon just like an online challenge, just like only fans 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.240 Okay Patreon. 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.959 It's an online platform and subscription site where subscribers pay 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:43.799 to access content. Gabrielle has never heard of it, but 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:44.800 the other models have. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:48.320 Basically, what Louise is doing with all the girls that 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.360 he's making pictures with, He's putting that onto his page 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.200 and he's getting money for that, and I was like what. 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:04.320 Gabriella's mind instantly jumps to the explicit photos and videos 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.320 she's shot with Louise, the content he promised her would 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.480 never go anywhere and was just for her. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:12.280 Is that now online for sale? 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.000 I'm gonna throw up. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.720 That's how disgusted I felt. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.880 And at that moment, I knew that I was fucked. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.560 Gabriella can't hide the panic on her face. She's terrified 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.600 the photos she took with Louise might end up on 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.840 the internet. She's never shot nude like that before, so 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:36.080 what now? Luckily the other models have an idea. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:43.080 Make a recording of him definitely saying make it clear 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:48.200 that you do not give consent to him spreading your 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.080 pictures and or videos. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.240 A recording she can use as evidence if she ever 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.480 needs to prove that she didn't want her content being 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:57.320 published online. 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.000 This is the act of my life. If I can 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.840 act through this, I can be a world famous actor, 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:05.480 can be a Golden Globe already. 0:04:06.560 --> 0:04:09.520 So that's exactly what Gabrielle is going to do. She's 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:18.919 going to confront Luis. I'm Ellie Flynn and from the 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:22.080 team at Novel. This is the Bunny Trap. Episode six, 0:04:22.640 --> 0:05:03.880 We Got Him Girls, Thank you. A few days on 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:07.400 from her shoot with Luise, Gabriella meets him again. Her 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:08.719 phone is already recording. 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:12.360 Wait, I'll just go get my water. 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:16.960 Yes, good, I'm just gonna take that. 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:17.640 While with me. 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.719 When I entered his room, I was super nervous. I 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.839 was super scared, trying to not show it because I 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:33.159 in this moment felt like right now I am in 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:36.839 court and this is the recording that is gonna be 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:37.359 helping me. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:41.039 Gabriella wastes no time getting into the reason why she 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.040 wants to speak to Luise. She wants to get on 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.880 tape that the explicit photos that he pressured her to 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:51.279 take won't appear online. What you're hearing is the secret recording. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.839 Gabriella maid a warning it's upsetting to listen to. 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.520 Did you put my videos on your internet page. 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.640 Please don't because you didn't tell me. 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:05.480 If I'm asking you, please do not put anything online. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:07.400 Because girls told me you have Patreon. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:11.640 Yes, everything that goes in the magazine goes to the Patreon. Okay, 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:12.240 I did not know. 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:14.919 I thought the pictures just for the magazines. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.000 Okay, I did not know. You didn't not tell me 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.039 pictures from the magazine come to Patreon. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.760 Yes, I'm gonna have money for my pictures and you 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:24.640 can use it too. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:27.800 Yes, but please do not put me here on Patreon, 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:32.120 because I do not know if I want anything published. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.119 Because when you and I make the pictures, I thought, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:37.280 you know, maybe just for me, So I have for 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:38.360 me on my computer. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.240 No Instagram, no nothing. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:41.520 Do you understand what I mean? 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:45.400 Oh? But because so, if not, why we do photos 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:45.800 for me? 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.560 I make pictures because I like making pictures for me. Okay, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.200 But when we do normally, it's like you're gonna use 0:06:53.240 --> 0:06:54.240 it and I'm gonna use it. 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.880 That is the way that money you do, like the motels. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:58.039 It's just for me. 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.800 Listen, But when we we're shooting, I told you I 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.480 can use it or I cannot use it. You never 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:08.240 told me that you also have Patreon, and I did 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.680 not know, and I do not want you to use 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:14.200 it because I do not know if I want the 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:15.960 videos on the internet. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:20.760 Photographer does have to tell you, like, hey, I have 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:25.000 a patron, or I want to open a or I don't. 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:25.760 Understand why not. 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.160 This is my pussy I do not want. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.520 I mean, it's your pussy, but it's the photos of 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:32.280 the photographer. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:38.720 I felt super humiliated. You just just stop behind my back, 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:40.200 and how you think that you have the right to 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.440 do anything. What in the actual fucking fuck. 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.760 I just do not want my nude pictures on the internet. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:50.920 Please do not do this. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:52.960 Yes without my approval? 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:55.640 Yeah, yeah, So it's like that if you don't want that, 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:57.640 no one uses you, just buy it. 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.840 If you didn't quite catch that, Luise seems to be 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:11.120 saying that Gabriella can purchase nude pictures of herself from him. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.880 I was just so nervous and frustrated and angry at 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.120 this point that I was ticket depressed. 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.600 Gabriella focuses. She asks Louise to delete the photos. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:26.600 We can delete it. 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:27.920 I don't have to use it. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:29.160 I do not need for me. 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.880 I just do not want them on the Internet. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.120 Please do not put them on the internet. 0:08:34.720 --> 0:08:35.319 Understand this? 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.480 And why am I afraid of this? My vagina is 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:42.080 showing and I do not want stranger people to see 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.240 me on the internet because I. 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:48.000 Told you at the beginning and I'm not ready. Okay, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:49.640 do you understand. 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:57.000 I was really really careful of my choice of words. 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.640 You have to understand English is not my first language, 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:00.600 is my third. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:01.480 So I was. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:06.400 Really really careful to try to get him many many times, 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.680 to see easy answers like yes or no. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.640 Finally, Louise offers a compromise. Okay, so what we want 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:15.480 to do is is this. 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:17.360 Okay, I don't want to put it in the internet. 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:20.559 Okay, but I'm gonna keep the content because I. 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.200 Don't want to erase the content. If you don't. 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.600 Want to put that in the Internet, I don't want 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.520 to do it, think you, But I don't want to 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:28.320 erase the content. 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.400 Okay. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.000 This is insane to me. It's difficult to comprehend how 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.920 Louise can be so callous when Gabriella is clearly distressed, 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.600 but at least she managed to record him saying that 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.280 he won't put her content on the internet. The conversation 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:50.080 isn't over yet though. What you're hear next is Louise 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.280 coming on to Gabriella on tape. It's distressing, so please 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.600 skip ahead two and a half minutes if you don't want. 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:56.920 To hear it. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.760 Everything I do for you are you're gonna do for me? 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:04.720 You're gonna be good to me. 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:09.800 I am always good to you. It's covered. 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:11.080 I like it, totally cover. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.480 I like this amazing body you. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:15.120 Want to do. 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:16.839 I take everything out way. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.920 You're so beautiful, thank you. 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:24.679 But let's concentrate you, see, because I want just to 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:25.320 finish this. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.640 Well, that is taking out everything now. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:29.880 Perfect, beautiful. 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.520 Well that's everything. Are you hungry? 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.480 Yeah, I'm very hungry. That is you say that you 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:41.640 want to be with me always always, Well, let's go 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:42.440 eat something. 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:43.400 But don't worry. 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:45.840 I'm always good to you, just like you're good to me. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:47.440 Was I not good to you? 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.440 Yes, so don't worry. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.600 You won't be all at least give me five minutes 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:54.160 or something. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:56.440 You are hungry, aren't you? 0:10:56.760 --> 0:11:01.839 Can you say by yourself if you're hungry? Huh? Say 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:03.199 hello to this? Okay? 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.480 It was the next he was trying to crest me here, 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.560 kissed me on the shoulder neckish part. He was trying 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:16.400 to come closer to me. Just say hello, hello, Yeah, 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:17.960 say hello. You can say hello. 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:26.400 M hmmm, yes I can say hello to this. Yes, 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.720 just a little bit. Let's go just like a five. 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:31.160 Minutes your hungry. 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.280 And I put my hazily set five minutes time. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:48.760 I did not see that coming. I did not, so 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.800 I was like, what the fuck in my head? I 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:55.800 had to rewire my brain and manage a new situation. 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.600 Oh my god, you're a moment pets. Just use the 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.280 exact excuse of your life of them. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.000 The thing is, I got my period. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:12.800 Yes, that is that is That is so bad. 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:15.640 But that's the thing you just say around your apparent 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:16.439 and men are grossed. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:21.960 I was like, I'm glad that Gabrielle is able to 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.120 find something to laugh at in this horrific situation, but 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.400 it makes me angry that she has to make excuses 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.240 to get out of that hotel room. Yet a novel 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.120 woman having to play pretend just to get someone to 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:34.040 back the funk off. 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:52.280 Thank you, ladies, I got that. 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:54.319 I got it all. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.079 I got it all. I got it all, I got 0:12:58.120 --> 0:12:58.400 it all. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.000 Who was I talking to you? 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.600 When I was saying that at this point, I was 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:09.800 just thinking of the ladies who were advising me to 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.880 do that, But it goes out for all the ladies 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.640 who needed that, all the ladies on this planet Earth. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:17.520 We got him Ross, so we got him. 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:46.480 It's been years since Gabriella confronted Luis in that Mexican hotel. 0:13:47.200 --> 0:13:48.920 She doesn't know for sure if he kept his word 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.960 about keeping her content private. To find out what he 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.960 is sharing online, me and my producer Elenor and our 0:13:55.000 --> 0:14:02.520 assistant producer Amalia go to his patron ourselves. It just 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:09.160 seems to have just opened up a whole new what's 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:10.000 the world I'm looking for? 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:17.520 It's like a whole a whole new ye, but also aside. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.880 To the story, I guess, but he makes money off 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:20.400 them twice. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.760 It's so fucked up. So yeah, we're logging onto the patron. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.000 I'm in, You're in, I'm in, right well done. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:35.240 Luis's patroon, like his website and Instagram, is run under 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.560 the Moniker Universe one three seven studios. We can't see 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:42.000 how many subscribers he has. His content is separated into 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.240 different tiers, which you have to pay to access. He 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:48.200 calls them levels, and the more you pay, the more 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:49.840 explicit the content seems to get. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.480 Hul We pay one hundred pretty much one hundred and 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:56.920 fifteen quid for the most basic tier, but through clicking 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.880 around the website you can see how much he charges 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:01.440 for the different levels. 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:05.640 Patreons behind a paywall and it's impossible to access any 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:10.040 other way, and we've really sort of had to wrestle 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:11.520 with the fact that we know that money is going 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.360 to him, and obviously we don't want to be doing 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.200 anything that financially supports him, but we've needed access to 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.520 it to keep on top of what he's posting on there. 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.080 We start scrolling, Oh, here we go, what's this? 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:33.360 So he's uploaded a photo of a model who's completely 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:37.720 naked with her legs spread and he's pixelated her most 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:44.160 intimate areas. And who's uploaded that with a caption Some 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:47.560 more super exclusive girls coming to the Vault don't miss out. 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.080 Sign up today to get the link. The Vault the 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.040 most expensive tier of all. It promises Luis's most explicit 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:59.000 content for an eye watering price three thousand dollars a month. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:04.240 Three thousand dollars. That is absolutely wild. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.560 We can't see what's inside the vault, but Luise teases 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.120 what's in there. If there's a model I've shot with 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:15.840 that you're looking for, it's probably posted here. Most of 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.960 the photos we can access our images from Luisa's shoots. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.760 But then we find something really disturbing. 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:28.440 One of the posts on the Patreon just has a link, 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:34.600 a dropbox link, no image, just the link. So we're 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.760 gonna put it in the browser and test it out. 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:43.360 Oh my god, what the fuck? 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.840 It's a self shot video of a model masturbating with 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:49.560 a sex toy. 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:53.640 It's clearly not from a professional shoot. Oh my god, 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.920 this is so upsetting. I know who that is. Oh 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.280 my god, I feel so upset. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:01.880 The woman in the video is someone I've come across 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.119 in my reporting. It's just that I think I know 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.119 she is, and I think she had a bad experience 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:10.120 with him. I don't know whether she sent him that, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:14.280 but somehow he's got that video and he's trying to 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:16.280 charge one thousand dollars a month. 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:17.800 I don't know. 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.320 Maybe she knows about it, but my god said, she's 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.359 probably got no idea. As we scroll further down the 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:28.520 page and through seemingly endless posts with sexually explicit content. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.719 I recognize more faces some of the British models from 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:34.800 the group who called out Luis or nine and twenty 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.360 twenty Emily HERA, oh. 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.879 God, just more and more girls, more and more girls. 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.080 This girl as well, I know. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:53.080 He's everywhere and has been everywhere. There are so. 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:55.919 Many girls, There are so many girls. This is so groom. 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.280 And then I support another familiar face from a post 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:08.800 made just five days ago. It's a model in America 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.840 who I'm due to speak to about Luis in a 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:16.720 few hours time. I mean, that's her, right, Yeah, that's her. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.960 I've seen and heard now the impact of these shoots 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.719 on so many models, and just looking through here and 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.600 realizing that there's still so many that I haven't spoken 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:35.200 to and that I don't know. It's it's like actually 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:39.480 wags heavy, just like thinking what have they been through? 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:41.639 Is it the same as the other girls I've spoken to? 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:47.720 The model Luise posted five days ago on his Patreon 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.240 is an American woman who we're calling Anna. She's worried 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.320 about being identified, so her words are also voiced by 0:18:54.359 --> 0:19:04.639 an actor. Like many of the other models we've spoken to, 0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.199 Anna was young and new to the industry when she 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:08.680 met Louise in twenty nineteen. 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.560 He had like the lanyards that said, you know, publications 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:17.360 for Playboy Maxim and I was like, oh, he's a 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:17.920 big deal. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:19.160 Anna says. 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:21.840 Louise told her she'd be great in Playboy, but she 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:23.040 couldn't afford his rights. 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.280 Instead, she says he made her another offer. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.199 He told me he had like a proposition for me. 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.879 He was like, I'll be like a sugar daddy of 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:36.399 sorts and I'll get you published. 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.439 What did he ask for and what did you agree 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.120 that you would give in exchange? 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:47.080 Basically just photos of myself, like touching myself or playing 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:50.440 with myself and just like sexy things. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.720 It was a turbulent time in Anna's life. She just 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.320 had a bad breakup and was drinking heavily. Modeling was 0:19:57.359 --> 0:19:57.960 her escape. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:19:58.920 She says. 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.640 Louise promised her the explicit photos she sent him would 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.000 be for his eyes only. As for their shoots, Anna 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:05.960 had set levels. 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:11.520 I made it clear. I was like, hey, no photos 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:15.280 of me topless, like I don't want anything compromising, but she. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:20.680 Says that Luise level pushed her. I've seen some of 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.000 the fire ties from Anna's shoot that Louise said was 0:20:23.080 --> 0:20:26.760 for Playboy. She's in a dingy looking hotel room. The 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.600 lighting is harsh, and Anna looks bleary eyed. Bruises are 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.680 visible on her arms. She says there's signs of nutritional 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:35.000 deficiency from her drinking. 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:38.480 What happened on that photo shoot. 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:43.160 I mean, I'm sure that I was drunk. I don't 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:47.240 really know. I just know that it wasn't It wasn't 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.280 good for me, It wasn't healthy. It's hard because I 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:56.439 want to share, you know, because I want If I 0:20:56.480 --> 0:20:59.120 can share it and it helps the situation, I will, 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:03.280 you know. But at the same time, it's like stuff 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:07.639 that I just feel so dumb for. I can't believe 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.480 that I allowed myself to get caught up in that. 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.040 Anna doesn't want to talk in detail about her shoot 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:18.720 with Louise, but she says they did end up shooting 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:22.320 much more explicit content than she'd planned to, so now 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.080 Louise didn't just have the photos and videos that she'd 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.920 been sending him as part of their arrangement. He also 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:32.240 had nude photos from their shoot. After the shoot, Anna 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.280 says she signed a model release form. They're pretty standard 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.520 contracts between models and photographers, which set out how the 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:42.159 photos can be used, but Anna didn't understand the extent 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:46.000 of what she was signing. She says she begged Louise 0:21:46.080 --> 0:21:48.320 to keep all of her explicit content private. 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.320 He kept assuring me, no, babe, like, that's for my 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.399 eyes only. You think I'm gonna put you on a 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:58.399 porn website? Ha ha ha, like acting like it was 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:04.040 a joke. I tried to be cautious. I was like, look, 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.600 I want to have another career. This isn't my ultimate goal, Like, 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.560 I do not want photos of me out there, And 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.919 he kept assuring me, no, babe, like that's for my 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:13.560 eyes only. 0:22:13.960 --> 0:22:16.000 Did she believe him? Did she feel reassured? 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:17.040 I did. 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.600 But then a friend of Anna's got in touch. He'd 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:25.280 see in explicit photos of her on Louise's Patreon. An 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:29.159 I was furious. She'd never imagined her photos would end 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.320 up there, so she confronted Luis. 0:22:32.840 --> 0:22:36.760 I showed him a picture. He just denied it. He's like, 0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:39.840 where's that published? That's not anywhere. I'm like, it's right 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.919 in front of my fucking face. What are you talking about. 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:45.840 There's literally a picture of you know, my vagina just 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:49.119 out there. It was just insane, Like the level of 0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:50.960 uncreed that he showed about what he posted. 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.639 Anna wanted to know what else Louise was prepared to sell, 0:22:55.119 --> 0:22:57.160 so her friend posed as a prospective buyer. 0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:03.640 That's when shit got real messy, because my friend kind 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.920 of started conversing with him and was like, Oh, I 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:10.880 like this girl, right. He's like, Oh, if you send 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:13.600 me four thousand dollars, I'll send you a video. 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:17.119 Of her, a video, a video she says he'd promised 0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:21.560 was for his eyes only. According to Anna's friend, Louise 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:25.600 was now offering that up for sale for thousands of dollars. 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:28.919 How did you feel when your friend told you that? 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:33.840 I was pretty broken. It just made me feel really 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:37.920