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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number three now of Bird Noises and

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Speaker 1: I Want a Falcon's podcast about football and mostly everything else.

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Speaker 1: And today we are honored to have in our studio

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Speaker 1: former Falcons athletic trainer Jerry Ray. Jerry welcome, Well, thank

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Speaker 1: you so please. Pleased to be here, Nice to be

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Speaker 1: back on flight here. Yeah, you were just talking to

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Speaker 1: Rich McKay about how everything has changed here in Flowery Branch.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. I was fortunate. I was

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Speaker 1: here actually when we built this and actually had an

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Speaker 1: office here six months before I retired, so I had

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Speaker 1: an office and we were so proud of this new

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Speaker 1: building and fields and all the things. But all the

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Speaker 1: things have been added. I think I've been retired now

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Speaker 1: eighteen years, you know. But the world's changed in eighteen years. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that and h but I got to

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Speaker 1: ask you. I've asked the previous two guests there have

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Speaker 1: been on Bird Noises. What do you think of the

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Speaker 1: name Burdenois. Well, I hadn't thought anything about it. It's

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Speaker 1: a little I guess it's fitting. Yeah, okay, I guess

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Speaker 1: it's fitting. Who picked it? Uh? Dan gadd okay, the

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Speaker 1: digital director? Okay, he gets credit for this one. Okay, Uh,

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Speaker 1: and Alan introduce you to him later. But since we're

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Speaker 1: talking about names real quick, I have to ask you

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Speaker 1: right off the bat. Your your nickname is Hawk, Jerry

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Speaker 1: Hawk Ray. How did you get that nickname from the nose?

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Speaker 1: From from my nose? Oh? Yeah, I got kind of

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Speaker 1: a hawkish nose. Look at the profile. Okay, Yeah, now

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Speaker 1: that you turned to the side I I was. I've

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Speaker 1: had several nicknames I actually uh. And even Budd mc fadden,

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Speaker 1: who was a great football player, Budd McFadden. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: was a player back and in the fifties sixties played

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Speaker 1: at the University of Texas and he played pro ball

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Speaker 1: for them for many years, a great defensive tackle. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And uh, he was coaching for the Houston Oilers and

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Speaker 1: I worked as an intern in nineteen sixty six. Goodness,

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Speaker 1: and we were kind of sweet mates. We share the

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Speaker 1: same bathroom head and he used to come in the

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Speaker 1: mornings and he was up every rise here and he

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Speaker 1: set on edge of my bed and hit me in

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Speaker 1: and he had a big, massive fist and hit me

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Speaker 1: in the side and wake up, Wake up, Henry Hawk,

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Speaker 1: Wake up, Henry Hawk. That's that's quite a way to

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Speaker 1: wake up, and so they got a breeze. Bobby Brown,

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Speaker 1: who was a trainer of the story of calling me

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Speaker 1: hawk and then buddies, my other buddy trainers picked up

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Speaker 1: on it. So I got labeled a but the nose fits. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess. Oh, okay, I hadn't. I hadn't really studied

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Speaker 1: your nose too much. But when you when you do

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Speaker 1: the side thing, yea. For those who who are listening, uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he does have a hawker's nose. All right, So all

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Speaker 1: right you have been here. For those who don't know

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Speaker 1: who Jerry Ray is, Jerry you you were the athletic

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Speaker 1: trainer here from nineteen sixty nine to nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 1: and then after that you were an assistant to the

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Speaker 1: president from ninety four to two thousand and one. But

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Speaker 1: when you think of Atlanta Falcons football and all the

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Speaker 1: players that you worked with, we're talking about the who's

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Speaker 1: who of the Atlanta Falcons outside of the modern year,

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Speaker 1: like outside of Matt Ryan, Julio Jones. Yeah. Just I

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Speaker 1: was kind of looking through, you know, the who's who

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Speaker 1: of all time Falcons and who you probably worked on

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Speaker 1: and for starters, we have to mention Tommy Noomis mister

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Speaker 1: Gerald Riggs, Alfred Jenkins, and Mike kenn who almost was

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Speaker 1: here as long as you in nineteen seventy eight to

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Speaker 1: Fan too. Yeah, he came, Actually he was came my

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Speaker 1: And I'll still see him frequently. Uh yeah, and he's

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Speaker 1: we're still doing some football analysts work for the SCUTA,

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Speaker 1: amazing list. I mean, it's a who's who of Atlanta

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Speaker 1: but you you got to see these guys every single day.

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Speaker 1: You got to see the high moments, the low points,

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Speaker 1: And there was also people too that behind the scenes,

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Speaker 1: what it was like here. Yeah, we had we called

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Speaker 1: ourselves the downstairs guys. The downstairs Yeah, because in most

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Speaker 1: And so it was equipment man, the trainers, and Tom Atchison,

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Speaker 1: someone got hurt and I had to go fetch Whitey

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Speaker 1: and we worked different hours. I mean, we were the

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Speaker 1: Then you would unpack, put everything away, and go to

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Speaker 1: bed at four and getting back up at seven. Different world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had to accent and everything, big man, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you're so proud of the people that worked for you

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Speaker 1: of the guys. He's a trainer now at the Washington Nationals. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Tommy Novas. Tommy Novas was mister Falcon

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Speaker 1: for so many years and for old people that he

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Speaker 1: still is the first traffic Yeah, his first bit and

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Speaker 1: oh gosh, that's such a that's such a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean that he's not and it wasn't his fault.

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Speaker 1: We had no coverage early on. We were the only

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Speaker 1: And I didn't come till year four, but we never

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Speaker 1: saw you well, and uh, the Falcons weren't Let's just

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Speaker 1: be honest. The Falcons weren't good. We weren't very good

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Speaker 1: And it was year after year, and he would knock

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Speaker 1: that was a hunter. But more than that, deep within,

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Speaker 1: he was a perfectionist. Yeah, he wanted everything. He played

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Speaker 1: It wasn't Cleveland, and it wasn't Cincinnati had a round

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Speaker 1: some of the other cities were some poor places to

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Speaker 1: let's talk to let's get back to Timmy here. But

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Speaker 1: he was he was a leader. He would demand and

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Speaker 1: all the things he did here and he did many things.

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Speaker 1: He was a manager of the hotel at the racquetball club,

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Speaker 1: a pretty good line back at the time, right Niki

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Speaker 1: up in Philly, Right yeah, And so what what do

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Speaker 1: you think has hurt him the most? I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I just don't know that anybody here

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Speaker 1: does the nominations, and uh, it's it's just the sad.

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Speaker 1: He's a well Rich McKay Penda letter. I help him

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Speaker 1: put it together, um and uh to get Nobu's into

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Speaker 1: Falcons dot com. And uh, you know, I know Rich's

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's it's unbelievable he's not in the

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Speaker 1: hall yet. Uh you said that. He kind of got

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Speaker 1: trying to run out the clock and two tall Jones

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00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: was left defensive end. He got off balance and instead

424
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: of falling forward, he tried to fall to his right.

425
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: When he did, he fell right into the hole. Were

426
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: trying to run the ball. So we didn't make the

427
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: fourth and one whatever third and one. We had to

428
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: punt and then a heart boarding game. Yeah. It was.

429
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: That's the hardest game, hardest loss I've ever had. I mean,

430
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 1: they wanted to just hurt the most because I think

431
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: we could have come to the Super Bowl. We'd have

432
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: beaten the Eagles. We would have beaten the Eagles. You

433
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: know I had watched Uh was it? It was that nineteen.

434
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: There's a nineteen eighty Falcons team. There's a on YouTube. Um,

435
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 1: just that whole season. It was just unbelievable how good

436
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: that team was. Yeah, we had some great receivers, yeah,

437
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: j Jackson, Wally Gator, Wally Francis, h Alfred Jackson, Alfred Jenkins, Yep.

438
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: And they could all run like the wind and uh yeah,

439
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: just some phenomenal players. Um. Claude Humphrey, how do you

440
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: do you have any Claude Humphrey stories. I talked to

441
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: him on the phone two years ago. We were talking

442
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: about the falcons first ever playoff win. Yeah. Um, and

443
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: he talked about how close, you know, how how different

444
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: it was with the fans and the interaction with the

445
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: stadium and how you know on Fridays and stuff, you

446
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: would you interacted with the fans, You go eat it.

447
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: Some of these fans at their houses, right, eat dinner

448
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: at the houses. So it's just a different world. And

449
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: so when they did win that first playoff game, he talked,

450
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 1: they pulled down the goal posts. I don't know if

451
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: you remember that, I don't remember. Yeah, And and the

452
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: reaction was just they went crazy because he said it

453
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: was like it was their team, right, they knew these

454
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: guys intimately. That kind of stuck with me. Um. It

455
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 1: was just, you know, you think about how different a

456
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: time it was. Yeah. I remember, well, we won a game.

457
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: We were in the playoffs, and we came back into

458
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: the old Hartsfield Airport before they built a new one,

459
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: and it was much more intimate. You had to be

460
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: there to understand. But we came in like say two

461
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: in the morning, and they had fans had come out

462
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: and they lined the concourse all the way from the plane.

463
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: This is what year, Jerry, I don't know, one of

464
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: those championship years, but it was probably and that time,

465
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: and they would they would line it and they were

466
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: all grabbing. You wanted to hug, you wanted to touch,

467
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: you wanted to do anything. It was hard to get

468
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,439
Speaker 1: through the crowd, and it was invigorating, you know that

469
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: you had these fans that loved you and it's two

470
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. Yeah. I

471
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: got to ask about one of my favorite players because

472
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: I think had he not sustained an injury, he would

473
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: be he was on track to have a Hall of

474
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: Fame career. I think is William Andrews. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

475
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: one of the first players ever a mass two thousand

476
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: yards in one season. It was a different kind of

477
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: league too. Yeah, he was at fullback, but he ran

478
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: like a tailback and he was a big dude, fast,

479
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: the happiest guy you ever met. Last time I saw him,

480
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: he still lapping. You know, that was probably two or

481
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: three months ago. Ran into it, but it was a

482
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: tragic thing. He was jumping, hurtling over someone. Nobody hit him.

483
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: He was hurtling over someone to not get tackling and

484
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: came down on his knee wrong. He had nerve damage

485
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 1: as well as the joint to itself. But yeah, he

486
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: was never the same. But he left a lot of

487
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: people in on the ground when he ran over him.

488
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a monster. And the other thing

489
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Lynn Caine, oh no, number twenty one, I want to say, Yeah, Lynn,

490
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: they ran as a tandem and they liked to run together.

491
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: We had another run guy named James Maybury. There was

492
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: a good running back I think out of Colorado at

493
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: the time, and he was good. But if Lynn was

494
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: on the field, he went to William with him and

495
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: vice versa. They just had this chemistry about them. One

496
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: was going to block for the other one. Do you

497
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: remember William Andrews run who was against the forty nine

498
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: ers and Ronnie lit a young then young safety Frownnie

499
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: Lot had come up to to just tackle William Andrews,

500
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: and Andrew's just steamrolled them. It's it's it's on YouTube.

501
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 1: I think it was a Monday I want to say

502
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: it's a Monday night game, but well, it's one of

503
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: my favorite favorite runs. What I do remember was in

504
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: Denver when he ran over a guy and ran for

505
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: it about another forty five yards or so to score,

506
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: and when he crossed the gold line, this guy was

507
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: still on the ground. I mean he just hammered him. Yeah,

508
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: I mean he was he was great. Yeah. Uh. You know,

509
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: you told me some great stories about some behind scenes

510
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: people of Whitey Zimmerman, uh and Tom Matches in the

511
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: film Guy you mentioned earlier. Um, you know, it was

512
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: a different world back then, right you were you were

513
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: talking about how much smaller the staff and stuff like that.

514
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: But these there's some colorful characters that people. They were

515
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: characters and you could be characters. Yeah. You know if

516
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: your character now you wind up on Facebook or something else,

517
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: or the whole world knows. It just happened, and nobody

518
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: really cared. Yeah, but Tom Atchinson I remember, he was

519
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: a crusty old guy too. He was the film guy, right,

520
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: he was a film guy. And that was the time

521
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: when you were still developing your own film. And so

522
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: you had these vats upstairs, the chemical right, the chemicals,

523
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: and he had to run those than he had to

524
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: cut them up and splice them by hand. There was

525
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: another coaches for the coaches, and he had to have

526
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 1: reels for each coach, and he had to have you know,

527
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: situational things. And so he was there, you know, from

528
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: soon as the game was over, he was back in

529
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 1: the lab developing the film so he could be on

530
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: the coach's desk in the morning. Yeah. And so one

531
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: of the things was he had he had the vants upstairs.

532
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: And the vants were I guess it's probably twelve foot

533
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 1: long of vats. Yeah. I was gonna say, people don't

534
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: know where ever seen them. They're like big, big, big sinks, yes,

535
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, and they go from one chemical to the other.

536
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: And then like I said, and they have to be

537
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: due plicated and it's a lot of work. Yeah. And

538
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: so when Henning Dan Henning came in here. Who I

539
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: love Dan too, But he came in here, and I

540
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: always said, you know, I thought changing the head coaches

541
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: was the closest thing to divorce that I'd ever have

542
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: because necessarily they wanted to change things because the last

543
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: guy got fired because he wasn't winning. So well, it

544
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: may be changing the rooms up, we're going to do this,

545
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: but they're moving walls. Poor old Joe Show just kept

546
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: moving rope walls. And so Dan came in and said, Tom,

547
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: we did need a little bit more space we need

548
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: He said, you know, we're gonna cut this out. And

549
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: he says, you're gonna you know, Tom, looking at this way,

550
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: you're going to be more efficient, he said, Dan, if

551
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: I get any more efficient, my ass is going to

552
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: be out in the hall. And that's the way he was.

553
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: But he'd come We all drank coffee together, you know,

554
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: six in the morning because we all caught here. I

555
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: am part of We all loved each other. Um, you

556
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: guys had a lot more interaction with the players, obviously

557
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: as equipment managers and stuff like that. Um, we saw

558
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: them as they were, Yeah, coach. When the coaches came in,

559
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: they were different. Yeah, Um, and you were talking about,

560
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: you know, Whitey and had some great and Whitey stars. Um,

561
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: what's your favorite Whitey Zimmerman's story? Well, why was a

562
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: character Rich McKay remembers Whitey. D Oh yeah, everybody everybody

563
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: after him, all everybody and Whitey. Yeah, why they would

564
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: like to have a toddy and uh in those days.

565
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: In those days we had Pier on the plane going home. Yeah,

566
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: but that was a long time ago, and so there's

567
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: no alcohol, but no stews would give Whitey a little

568
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: bag bourbon and give me a little bag of scotch

569
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: just to have, you know, and unwind to the game,

570
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: you know, well for whatever. And so it must have

571
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: been a long bus ride. I don't know if we

572
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: were playing up and Boston. It was always a long

573
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: bus ride, whether he flew into Providence or flew into Boston.

574
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: But anyway, he was Whitey. We got beat whatever game

575
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: it was pretty bad. So white he was starting to

576
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: get on some of the players about you know, and

577
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: so they have some other players got back, Oh, Whitey,

578
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: why do you Yeah, you know, don't know what you're saying.

579
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: You're drunk, you don't know what you're saying. And he

580
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: said so he finally got tired of it and white

581
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: He says, well, let me tell you this, I'm drunk tonight.

582
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: I'll be sober in the morning. You were tonight, you'll

583
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: be tomorrow. That must have gone over really well. Well

584
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: they just laughed at him. But he was telling the truth. Yeah,

585
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, And but he could get by with it.

586
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: They I don't know if that would get there. I

587
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: don't know if that would fly today. Oh, I don't know.

588
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: I wish you would. Maybe maybe everybody'd be better off.

589
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying he was he could say. And

590
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: they loved him, Yeah, they loved him. He was this

591
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: curmudgeon guy that would always say no, but do yes, okay,

592
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah? And uh, but I spent more time

593
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: with him, and I'd be able with my wife. We're

594
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: in football season. I believe it because you guys put

595
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: in some crazy hours. Yeah, yeah, they had. And we

596
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: sat on the same planes. You know, we sat together

597
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: on the plane for I don't know how many years

598
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: we were doing it, twenty five years, I guess. Um.

599
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: So I was looking through just while you were an

600
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: athletic trainer. Here um, the list of coaches that was

601
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: here while you were here, yea as the trainer. Not

602
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: not when you were a special assistant. Um, Norm Van Brocklin,

603
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: Maryon Campbell, Pat Peppler, Lemon Bennett, Dan Dan Henning, Maryon Campbell,

604
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: Jim Hanniffin, the old Cardinals coach, uh, Jerry Glanville, who

605
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: we talked about a second out in June Jones. Yeah,

606
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: I never worked for June. I had okay, June took

607
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: over ninety four. You wou you would already Yeah, okay,

608
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: but I had Junior as a player. Oh oh yeah,

609
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: I head Junior's playing. In fact, I got got an

610
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: email problem yesterday. We still stay in contact some Well,

611
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Yeah, give me the first

612
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: I think Falcons Hans would enjoy this. Give me the

613
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: first word or phrase that comes to mind when I

614
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: when I mentioned each one of those coaches, How would

615
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: you just you can we can start with Van brock Yeah,

616
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: Norman and Brocco. I'll always be grateful. He took a

617
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: chance he hired me. I was an assistant with the Rams.

618
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: He hired me mainly on Mary and Campbell's recommendation. Coach

619
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: Mary and I had been at the Rams. That's right,

620
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: you were with the Rams. Two years before Atlanta as

621
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: an assistant and when Norman came in at mid season

622
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, he fired all the

623
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: coaches and he hired the trainer, who I thought at

624
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: the time was probably the best trainer in the league.

625
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: And so I interviewed for the job and I got it,

626
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: but I knew I was feeling big shoes. One of

627
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: the stories about Tommy uh in there was that I

628
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: was afraid that Tommy and the head trainer both from

629
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: the University of Texas, and they were good buddies. It's

630
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: not afraid, how it. Tommy would take me on, you know. Yeah,

631
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: and we've been here about a week. One night, we're

632
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: staying in the hotel across the street from the old stadium,

633
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: and it's knock on the door and it's Tommy, and

634
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: then Nobis came to welcome us. That's that's pretty cool.

635
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. And so I could please him, I would,

636
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: and you know, I would be not criticized anyway. But yeah,

637
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: but Van Brocklon was tough. He was hard to work for.

638
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: He was he could be the most charming man you

639
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: ever met, or the biggest you know what, yeah, that

640
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: you ever met, and but he took care of the

641
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 1: ones he hired. He may beat on you, but he

642
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: wouldn't let anybody else beat on you, all right, Marry

643
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: and Campbell. It was a buddy And it was hard

644
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: because we've been some good friends with the Rams and

645
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: you his family so well. It used to be hard

646
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: to go in and tell him this guy can't play

647
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: or he's down for the year. I felt like I

648
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: was telling him his son had died or something. It

649
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: was almost like that. But you had to, right, well,

650
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: I had to that that's the job. But we were

651
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: such close friends. It was hard to tell him something negative. Yeah,

652
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: and after him. It's interesting people don't really Pep think

653
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: about that. Pat Peppler. Pat Pepler yea in nineteen seventy

654
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: six over his head completely three and six record and

655
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: he was interim head coach. He was the interim He

656
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: was the one that wanted to getting married and fired.

657
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: And when they did rank and said, well, okay, you

658
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: think it's so easy, you do it. And then when

659
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: Maryon got fired, two or three of the coaches quit

660
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: with him, okay, And so he hired some other coaches

661
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: and from then on we were just treading water to

662
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: the and the last schemes of the season. I was

663
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: talking to another friend, Jay Shop, who was my assistant

664
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: trainer at the time. Isn't being honored Friday night at

665
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: the Georgia Tech Sports Hall of Fame. He'd been the

666
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: trainer of their twenty nine years. But uh, we were

667
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: talking about that. He well lost training. Thought there, go ahead,

668
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 1: let's go to the next one. Yeah all right. So

669
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: Leamon Bannett, what what word or phrase comes to mind?

670
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: The easiest guy probably I work for. Really, he was

671
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: one of the successful coach yoh, yeah, you're great, and

672
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: still see him quite a bit. He he used. One

673
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: of his phrases was, let's don't make him mounting out

674
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: of a molehiel Let's don't take something little and in

675
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: compounded and grind it into something just players or just

676
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: well what problems? Just okay, yeah, don't don't be too

677
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: harsh to judge. I count and uh. But he was

678
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: easy to get along with, and he had some great

679
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: success here think about it. I mean he was forty

680
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: six and forty one, yeah yeah, And he was also

681
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: the guy. He was also the guy calling plays that

682
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: last game when we got beat fifty five to nothing

683
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: with the Rams out in calling Sam who was calling

684
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: the plays. It beat us so bad. They played three

685
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that night. All three of them were trying to

686
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl, and I mean they speak

687
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: to snot out. I was Dan Henning. He's a Yankee.

688
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: A Yankee. Yeah, it's Boston, Boston, Yeah, you know up there.

689
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: And uh he had that accent in that air about him,

690
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: and a lot of people didn't like him, I think

691
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: because he was a Yankee, and I never understood that.

692
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, he was at times he was loose

693
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: as a goose. He wouldn't go home. He slept here

694
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: at I mean during the season he maybe go home

695
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: one night. He slept on his couch in his office,

696
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: in his office, you know. Uh, workaholic. Had come here

697
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: from the red Skins when the Redskins were winning a

698
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: championships and uh he was he just we didn't win.

699
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: He was from eighty three to eighty six, twenty two,

700
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: forty one and one. Yeah. Uh, then came to Marry

701
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: and Campbell era eighty seven to eighty nine. He was

702
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: eleven and thirty six. What what when you when I

703
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: say Mary and Campbell, you think, what? Well, it came

704
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: back and uh, you know, I don't know. He was

705
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: a defensive coach, and uh, it was hard for me

706
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: to be critical of him because he was a good

707
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: friend and you shouldn't be in that position maybe, but

708
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: he was. He's a so a good friend, very and

709
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: the reason he got to be there the second time,

710
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: when we were having a bad time with uh, with

711
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Dan Henning, Uh, they brought Maryan in to be because

712
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: of the defensive wasn't played well. It brought Maryann inn

713
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: with Fred Bruney, who had always been with him, another

714
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: good friend and good coach. And so he still didn't win.

715
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: And so they fired Dan and kept marrying. That's kind

716
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: of the way that happened. Yeah, So then Jim Hanifan

717
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: was took over because I guess Campbell retired after twelve games,

718
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 1: then Jim until last game of the year. Well he said,

719
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: I guess he was owing for him. He was entering

720
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: for at the end. And then uh, yeah, and what

721
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: word comes to mind when you think of Jim. He

722
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: was so brief and funny, funny, funny guy. Players loved him.

723
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: He was He just didn't win. He was offensive well,

724
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: he was offensive line coach. He had been at he

725
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: had been at Saint Louis with with those people, Joe Gibbs,

726
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 1: you know all that, that group of people had great

727
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: success along the way, great storyteller, offensive Lineman loved him.

728
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: He was so easy to work for. And yeah, all right,

729
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: a funny guy, funny guy. And then and then the

730
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: world weren't crazy. And then then Jerry Glanville shows up.

731
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: You've got showtime, showtime in two Paul, Yeah, yeah, he uh,

732
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: he was well, he was just he had his hand

733
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: in everything. You know, it was it was always a show.

734
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: And with the motorcycle wearing the black and we came

735
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: in and we were getting ready to read through the

736
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: dressing room, and he got his way. We we carpeted

737
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: the dressing room floor black. You think about you got

738
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: white tails, you got white socks and chocks, you got

739
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: everything white, and you got white line all over that.

740
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: We tried to talk him out of. You know, we've

741
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: got to have black. That's when we went back to

742
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,760
Speaker 1: the black helmets and attacks. Yeah, back in black. Yeah,

743
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: and uh, you know we left the tickets for Elvis. Yeah.

744
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: One time we were playing the Redskins and uh, there's

745
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: a trainer at Redskins Frainer's role buddies. Anyway, we were

746
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: talking for the game, and so we're playing up there

747
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: and Bubba says, let's walk down. Aw, who's on our bench? Now?

748
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: This is your in warm ups. So we walked down

749
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: there and we other senators, soone sold as congressman, so,

750
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: so the secretary, so and so on the bench. And

751
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: I said, let's go see what Jerry's caught today. So

752
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: I think we went over and there was Evander holy Field,

753
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: the boxer. I think it was Jerry, Jeff Walker and

754
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: one of the one of the rappers. We're all on

755
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: our side and see hammer maybe yeah, I mean it

756
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: may have been a hammer, yeah, said so we never

757
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: knew who was going to be on our sideline. Remember

758
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: we're playing out in la at Anaheim, and Chris Christofferson

759
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: was on the sideline and the actor singer. Yeah, I

760
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: mean marveled how small he was. He's not a very

761
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: big man. Yeah. So with Jerry, it was always showtime.

762
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean it was always a crisis someplace. Yeah. And

763
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? What do you mean

764
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: there was always some kind of drama going. Drama, Yeah,

765
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: like what give me give us a sense of I

766
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: don't know if I can tell you it just no, no,

767
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: it's just it was always something that was wrong that, Um,

768
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: I know I call his name, but we signed some

769
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: guy that Jerry didn't walt Okay, it was running back

770
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: and he got here and uh yeah, he had a

771
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: bad injury that we found out after you got here.

772
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: You couldn't play. Yeah, put on are He didn't play

773
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. But he just just man

774
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: and you know he thrived on attention and still does.

775
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: And uh, Jerry was twenty seven and thirty seven here.

776
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: But the Falcons, you have to admit, they became like

777
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: must watch TV, right, I mean they were a show.

778
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Oh it was. It was showtime. It was showtime. And

779
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: his players seemed to really like that. Yes, yeah, you

780
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 1: know it was. But I get the sense a little

781
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: bit though that maybe you know, you guys have been

782
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: here for a while, we're kind of not really buying

783
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: in or rolling your eyes to it a little better. No,

784
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: it was it was just him to see he had

785
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: been here before with Layman. Yeah, we knew him, Gritz

786
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: Blitz and uh yeah, Rit Bliss, and we knew him.

787
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: We had great success there. Um, I just I was

788
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: kind of surprised when Taylor hired him bring him back,

789
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: and but you know, he brought a lot of attention.

790
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: We got a whole lot of attention. And you know

791
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: the other thing is he got into that race car business. Yeah,

792
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: he's he's into the race and so he would bring

793
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: his race cars up and let you look at him

794
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: and he would bring you know, Yeah, Well he was

795
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: a character. He was a character and still is. And

796
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: he's going to coach again. Yeah, he's coaching the XFL

797
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: and XFL down in Tampa. Yeah, June's are going to

798
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: be in Houston. Yeah, you know, Y're gonna bring you

799
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: out of retirement. The boys. It's June seventy five, seventy six.

800
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,959
Speaker 1: I don't know Jerry is Jurry's older than June. Yeah,

801
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: but June just loves to coach. He just loves to coach. Yeah,

802
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: Jerry is seventy seven according to Wikipedia, which I don't trust.

803
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, so some colorful coaches. Not a lot of winning. Yeah,

804
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: but but you loved it though, right, I loved every

805
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: minute of it. I love They named in an award

806
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: after you with the NFL. They write the uh Jerry

807
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: Hawk Ray Award for Outstanding NFL team positions. Yeah, for

808
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: the team position. And it's an annual award. Is this

809
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: that they given away at the combine every year or

810
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: awarded at the combine? They do? And that's quite an honor. Yeah,

811
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: it is quite an honor. And uh, doctor Harrison, who

812
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: is uh actually one about was our team position, A

813
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: good friend and our family doctor forever to the retard. Uh,

814
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: he won the award. Which anyway, you're in some you're

815
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: in some athletic trainer Hall of Fames too. I noticed, Yeah, right, Um,

816
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: you have you phenomenal career. Um, when you look back

817
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: and we'll kind of wrap it up here, but when

818
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: you look back at then and now you know you

819
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: kind of given you painted some pictures here of just

820
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: the differences. But you know you said you were back

821
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: at Mercedes ben Stadium recently and you're walking around here

822
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: flowery branch and um, the facilities and everything like that. Um,

823
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: it's not only is it physically different, obviously he can

824
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: an times change and things improved, right, Medicine improves, and

825
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: you know doctors and trainers learn more in the diets change,

826
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: and practice habits change and the way they monitor everything changes. Right,

827
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: do you still stand top of all that, or do

828
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: you just sit back and you talk back to where

829
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,280
Speaker 1: you talk to your friends. They're talking to my friends

830
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: about what's going on? Yeah, And are you something away

831
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: by it all? Or I couldn't because I don't I

832
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: make it still tape ankles. I don't even know if

833
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: they do that the same way. But as far as treatment,

834
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: the moldalities they use, the different techniques they use, Uh,

835
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like I came on the Mayflower

836
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: and uh, there's no reflection of what we did because

837
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: that's all we need to do at the time, That's

838
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: all we had to work with. And it's like a car.

839
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: You had a nineteen fifty five model versus a nineteen model.

840
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: You know, just everything has changed. But the other thing

841
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: is they have so many more people working in both

842
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: the equipment room and the training room and the digital

843
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: room now which used to be the film room. You know,

844
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: you have so many people working in there. Where there

845
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: was always during the season, me and one other trainer

846
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: and White he worked with horrors Daniel for years and years,

847
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: there were only two. Not only were they doing that,

848
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: they were cleaning up the clubhouse after they all went home.

849
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: During the laundry and we were cleaning up our trainer

850
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 1: and literally sweeping the floor. Yeah, running the vacuum was

851
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: one of the things we did every night. But we

852
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: went home, and so there weren't that many employees in

853
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: our organization when I think I kind of sixty five

854
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: when I retired that were non player personnel. That was scouts, coaches,

855
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: front office, total total people. And well, I saw last

856
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: Friday at the Pepper Vality down at the Bins. It

857
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: was overwhelming. And then to see the new facility there

858
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: that they had in the training room, it's just like

859
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: the Flash Garden, you know. I was flash with things

860
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,959
Speaker 1: I never dreamed would have. Yeah, And that's pretty cool though.

861
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: Oh it's wonderful. I mean it's an athletic training has

862
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: become such a much more educated position and the people

863
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: are so much smarter and so caring and you know,

864
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: but bottom line is the greatest thing about being the

865
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: trainer for the Falcons. It was my team. Yeah, and

866
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: I was first responder and it went somewhere from between

867
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: a band aid and a year rehab. But they were

868
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: your kids. Yeah, And every night I went home and

869
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: it was my team. That's pretty cool too. It was

870
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: because not everybody could do that. Um, I have to

871
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: ask you how many how many games do you get

872
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: to go out and see? Now? Do you do? You

873
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: got it all the home games? Stiff? No, I hadn't

874
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: been to a home game and a long time, so

875
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: easy to watch it on TV. Okay, you know, honestly

876
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: I used to say, I said, I pitied the fan

877
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: who paid to come to this game today because he

878
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: got rained on, he got shoved, he had trouble parking,

879
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: he walked a long way and he paid money to

880
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: get here. Now that you've seen Mercedes Been Stadium, don't

881
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: you want to go? Yeah? So beautiful staying with the roof.

882
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to fool with the crowd than but

883
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: I said in on the other hand, we came in,

884
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: we were in the dressing room. If it was raining,

885
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: we could change closest to half. You know, we had

886
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: a hot chocolate if it was cold, or in the

887
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: hot sea and yeah and uh when by the time

888
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: we got out of there, the crowd had gone home,

889
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: so we didn't have the traffic. Thank god for the

890
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: fans that were paying the salaries. What does Jerry Ray

891
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: doing a spare time these days? Um? With old. H

892
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: I am dating a lady. You really like a frat deal.

893
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: I but you. I am working my yard still. I

894
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: will do all my housework. I don't do any cooking.

895
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: We go out to eat a lot, do all my

896
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: yard work most of all of that. Yeah, have lunch

897
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: with a lot of people. You know, old man have lunch.

898
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: Couples have dates, but old men have lunch. And we

899
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: have a group of about anywhere from ten to fifteen.

900
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: It gets together old falcon man. Uh lunch, what's no?

901
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: We have former players too, bad notes in the group

902
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: comes and we meet and just tell the same old

903
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: stories because when you get old, you can tell them

904
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: over and over and over. Yeah that's awesome. Yeah. Uh.

905
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: This team has been to two Super Bowls and it's

906
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: it's history eighties, ninety eight and twenty sixteen. Sorry, um

907
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: and Jerry raised mine. What's it gonna take for this

908
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: team to get back to one and then win it?

909
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: If I knew, I'd sell it. Yeah. When you think

910
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: of this team, think they think they can turn it around?

911
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: Be hard now? Yeah, yeah, it's not impossible. It's just

912
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 1: hard time. And the thing that you know, things it

913
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: bothers you is people get the perception you're not going

914
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: to win anymore, and so everybody that you know hammers

915
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: on you. You get you listen to the radio, you're

916
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: crazy if you're a player right now, because it's just negative, negative, negative, negative.

917
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, you can turn it around. But it's just

918
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: hard when you start off like this and you know,

919
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: everybody's trying to bury the coach, everybody's trying to bury

920
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: the general manager, and you know, the owners not doing

921
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: this now and all that, and you think of all

922
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: the hard work that goes into it, and uh, you know,

923
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: bottom line, there's only one winner every year, and if

924
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: you don't win the Super Bowl, you had a bad year.

925
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: And that's hard. Yeah, that's hard, Bill parcel As you say,

926
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,959
Speaker 1: there's winning and there's misery, right, Yes, I had heard

927
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: that certainly true. Well, Jerry, you know you're like a

928
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: walking encyclopedia for Atlanta Falcons. It was pretty awesome to

929
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: have you here in our student video and thanks for

930
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: joining us on Bird Noises. Well you very kind of

931
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: day asking me. I appreciate the opportunity to talk and

932
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 1: us jerem my opinions, But like I say, it was

933
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: never a job. Yeah, it was never a job. That's

934
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: that's what we all shoot for, right there. Yeah yeah,

935
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: never consider it work. Yeah yeah, thank you for having me, Jerry,

936
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: thanks so much. Okay, so right, Hey, I'm Jerry Ray.

937
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm a Falcon's a long time plainer for twenty five years,

938
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: and I'm here doing bird noises today